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CARTIER EDITION

Guides and Info:
>Poorfag guide:
https://www.imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
>Watch essentials 102:
https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV
>Purchasing used watches:
https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2
>Purchasing straps:
https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE

"Suggest a watch for me."
>Your budget
>Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
>Movement, e.g. automatic, hand-wound, quartz
>Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd-time zone
>Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
>Wrist size or desired watch size

Previous thread >>18072434

>> No.18074337
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>>18074324

>> No.18074343

>>18074337
>too big
>ugly
>worthless
>cringe
This may be the worst watch of all /wt/ on par with the Copeverseas 2nd gen

>> No.18074344
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Cope if you must, and you will.

>> No.18074352

I just came back from a Tinder date.
She had BIG TITS on her pics but irl she was really just an overweight unhealthy whale. Also a smoker. My friday night is ruined.

Any watch for these feels?

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>> No.18074361

>>18074355
Is that whoretadello?

>> No.18074362

>>18074324
ACTUAL NEW THREAD. OP IS A SEETHING POORFAG VIRGIN.
>>18069528
>>18069528
>>18069528

>> No.18074364

>>18074362
The general for (You)
>>18069127

>> No.18074365

>>18074362
>new thread
>created 4 days ago
>only 160 replies
lmao
No one likes you

>> No.18074367
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>samefagging
lmfao

>> No.18074458

>>18074343
>Copeverseas 2nd gen
Rent: $0

>> No.18074492

>>18074458
Yet you felt compelled to respond. It's plain that each of you are living in each other's heads.

>> No.18074493

>>18074355
Should I know who this is?

>> No.18074504

>>18074365
really embarrassing, tbqh.

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>>18074352
I've dealt with this sort of dishonesty before too. That was when I learned to never invite them to my home initially. Fuck that was a long night

>> No.18074521

Thinking of getting a Boccia shitter out of morbid curiosity. Sub-$150 watches with sapphire crystals seem too good to be true.

>> No.18074536
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>> No.18074540

>>18074536
yea those aren't even good fakes

>> No.18074556
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Should I pull the trigger?

>> No.18074613

>>18074540
I don’t know why people keep doing this to themselves?

>> No.18074615

KHAKI FUCKING NATO STRAP

>> No.18074626

>>18074536
>those date windows on the "patek" and "breguet"
grim

>> No.18074630

>>18074626
Yeah they're much better on real ones lmfao.

>> No.18074632

>>18074626
>>18074630
It's literally a hole in the dial, how much better can it be?

>> No.18074636

>>18074632
the point is that they ruin the aesthetic balance of the dial. no watch, especially not a dress watch, should ever have a date window.

>> No.18074637

>>18074636
What if I want to know what day it is?

>> No.18074639

Is it easy to adjust your watch at home?

>> No.18074640

>>18074637
check your phone desu

>> No.18074641

>>18074639
Adjust it in what way? If you mean removing links to resize the bracelet or changing the strap, then yes. I picked this little kit up and it's all I've ever needed.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08V8RKP1K
Buy a decent spring bar tool though, the cheap ones are shit.

>> No.18074643

>>18074641
I mean the movement.

>> No.18074663

>>18074632
It's not, it's exactly the same shit date window, you pay $50k for something that looks like Jiang Mong cut with a nail file.

>> No.18074674

>>18074556
>the same people that shit on someone who bought a Vacheron are the same people that are struggling with the decision of spending money buying a casio.
I wasn't expecting anything else.

>> No.18074693

>>18074536
Uninteresting watches (I would keep Breguet and DD though) and a really shitty pen, which leaks and doesn't write. But you're keeping with trend, bro.

>> No.18074831

>>18074643
>timegraphers are pricey
>you will have an awful time if your balance bridge doesn't have an etachron system
>you can cause a whole lot of damage if you don't know what you're doing
>you may not colse your watch properly and have no way to tell unless you have waterproofing equipment
I wouldn't recommend it. Like with all things in watchmaking, the cost barrier to entry and gatekept + paywalled knowledge is arse.

>> No.18074837
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18074837

Thoughts on Orient RN-TX0203S?

>> No.18074850

>>18074837
Too many different shades of whiteish, or rather non-white. Lume on hands is different than lume on indices while the subdial hands are grey. All of these should be just white.
Also the date is too far recessed.

>> No.18074882

>>18074674
>the same person that bought a """Vacheron""'" is seething at casios
lmfao, money can't buy taste and sense, it seems
keep coping looooool

>> No.18074885

I'm really disappointed that there are no good watches below $5k and even then it's slim pickings until you get to $10k. How come there are no "working class hero" watches that are still respectable and project an image of a tough guy, a bit rough around the edges, but ultimately a decent fellow you can count on when it's needed the most, this archetype is apparently wearing Rolex (while realistically I'm sure he would be wearing something lower). In fact every archetypal image from dandy to frat boy to international man of mystery is covered only by luxury watches, instead of a widely varying gamut of classes and price points. What do you think?

>> No.18074888

>>18074885
There is.
It's called "not wearing a wathc because you've been gatekept and priced out for 40 years so now you just look at your phone like a normal person who puts what money he has left at the end of the month into a retirement fund instead of luxury goods he has no use for"

>> No.18074892

>>18074885
VINTAGE!!!!!! GO FUCKING VINTAGE!!!!!!!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
What you're describing is basically 1950s/1960s Longines, Omega or even JLC. They made every day watches, mostly in stainless steel, good looking, no bullshit and super reliable.

EVERYTHING MADE AFTER QUARTZ IS SHIT (EXCEPT ROLEX)

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>>18074885
There are plenty of "good" watches under 500 let alone 5k,. Hell there are plenty of good watches under 50.

If you wear a watch to be "respectable" or "project a tough guy image" without being respectable or something of a tough guy, the watch is going to do very little to help.

That said, watches are situational, and somewhat aspirational (and not just monetarily). You want to climb a mountain? An rolex explorer or a seiko Alpinist both speak to that. You want to fly a plane? A Navitimer and a Citizen nitehawk both speak to that. You want to be a a businessman? A calatrava and a 50s Longines both speak to that. You can be a traveler with a 200usd Seiko GMT or a 10000 dollar Rolex GMT.

The watch should be enhancing the trait you somewhat possess and already somewhat project. Strapping on a watch, any watch, doesn't work unless you already somewhat embody what the watch is there to enhance. Watches can be a costume like anything else.

I have a brand new 7500usd Speedmaster, and my most worn watch before that is a 30 dollar Casio Worldtimer. 99% of people will not notice or care about your watch, so pay attention to how wearing it makes you feel.

>> No.18074899

>>18074897
>vintage Longines
Based beyond reason

>> No.18074905

>>18074885
That's literally the Tudor branding

>> No.18074906

>>18074897
To put a fine point on it: when I meet a shitbag wearing a rolex, I don't assume he's wealthy, I assume the watch is fake.

>> No.18074911

>>18074892
>What you're describing is basically 1950s/1960s Longines, Omega or even JLC.
Yeah and they cost an arm and a leg now and also they're 34mm.

>> No.18074913

>>18074899
Thanks, was the first "nice" watch I ever bought about 15 years ago when I was in my early 20s. Got lucky with an uninformed ebay purchase, my local watchmaker felt pity and serviced it for a song. Wore it in to the Boutique to buy the Omega.

I think I paid like 75 bucks for it, wore it when I got my first big job, at my wedding, and it still gets worn and serviced. It's even prettier in person, the dial patina is top tier and those lugs are fantastic in the light.

That tissot next to it is a personal gem as well, early 50s bumper auto "crosshair" center seconds. Gold is worn through but I dig the wear and tear.

>> No.18074920

>>18074885
What the fuck are you even on about? There's so many watches below 5000 that are good.

>> No.18074937

>>18074920
Ok list some that aren't toys for children like Casio or cope loser watches from mall brands.

>> No.18075006

>>18074515
>That was when I learned to never invite them to my home initially.
We met in a bar and the whole time I was scared to meet a friend or coworker. Thank god that didn't happen.

>> No.18075014

>>18074905
I will probably buy a tudor one day. Been looking at the GMT and royal.

>> No.18075016

>>18074905
Yeah and they're literally all ultra-expensive.

>> No.18075040

>>18075016
They’re like 3k. Just save for a few months.

>> No.18075050

>>18074885
shit bait

>> No.18075072

I'll tell you something about watches, the truth about watches. A good watch cannot be affordable, that simple. If you like a Seiko or a Chinese homenjae, go ahead and buy it, but that watch has no value. When you buy a Rolex you pay a high premium, that's a good thing. This is not a cheap hobby. I recommend that you only buy expensive watches or a Casio tool watch.

>> No.18075083

>>18075072
What makes a watch good?

>> No.18075084

>>18074937
>Ok list some that aren't toys for children like Casio or cope loser watches from mall brands.

NTA, but easy.

Up to 5k:
>Manual wind 1861 Moonwatch
>Any Seamaster (even the first Bond version with modified ETA)
>Any Breitling using the B20 or B01 movement
>Any Tag using the Heuer 02 movement
>Any Heuer reissue, bonus points not using ETA

Up to 10k:
>Any Breguet, for example Aeronavale
>Any steel sports Rolex in budget (Explorer, Sub, less desired GMTs)
>Any IWC not using ETA movements

The possibilities are endless because there are hundreds or even thousands of watches from the above manufacturers, and none of them are ETA shitters or mall watches except maybe Breitling and Tag, but even they are positioned upmarket at this point and their in house stuff is certainly not mall watch tier.

>> No.18075086

>>18075072
A good collection has watches starting at 2-3k and then going higher. Collecting only super expensive pieces is new money cringe.

>> No.18075089

>>18075084
>B01 movement
Awful, unbelievably unreliable, there has been some recalls.
The B01 was pushed into the market 5 years early, it was not tested for longevity.

>> No.18075090

>>18075086
That depends on what you're collecting. If you're interested in vintage Doxas, you're not going to spend a lot on any given piece. If you're collecting vintage/pre-1970 Cartiers then basically every piece is going to be expensive.

If you're just buying a disjointed bunch of watches to wear, then you're not collecting watches any more than you're collecting clothes

>> No.18075095

>>18075089
>unreliable
Nobody gives a shit. If you can afford the B01 Navitimer you can afford the service cost. Or not.

>>18075090
Or maybe you just collect modern sports watches.

>> No.18075097

>>18075095
>it doesn't matter that the movement is shit if I can afford the repair
k

>> No.18075098

>>18075083
If it's above $6.5k.

>> No.18075100

>>18075084
>retard lists 5k watches as "cheap working class watch"
Ok buy me one Count Blacula it's nothing for you right?

>> No.18075101

>>18075072
"Expensive" is relative to the size of your bank account. A Rolex may be expensive to you, but to others it's pocket money. Whether you're poor or rich, Rolex makes great watches. That's why Rolex is Rolex.

>> No.18075106

>>18075086
A good collection starts at 6k, Rolex or Cartier or JLC is the entry level. It's a shame that Cartier and JLC belong to Richemont

>> No.18075107

>>18075095
>Or maybe you just collect modern sports watches.
A totally valid thing to collect.

>> No.18075108

>>18075083
Quality, in house movement, history, heritage, financial independence.

>> No.18075111

>>18075101
It's true, people believe that Rolex is a fetish item for aspirational poor people, but the reality is that rich people wear Rolex watches.

>> No.18075112

>>18075083
>What makes a watch good?
Style and how it fits your wrist. It's all that matters. Jerking off about specs or price is cringe.
I'd rather wear a 500€ Baltic than one of those disgusting 15k€ Glashutte Original.

>> No.18075113

>>18075108
>Quality, in house movement, history, heritage, financial independence.
Don't forget about design. (Unless you put that in quality.)

A watch can be well-engineered by a respectable company, but if it looks like shit, it's hopeless anyway.

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Gday cunts

>> No.18075131

>>18075100
Not him, but you're worth less than nothing : )

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>>18075083
>What makes a watch good?
Do you like it, does it fit you, and does it keep time with the accuracy you want? After that, you're really splitting hairs.

>>18075090
>If you're just buying a disjointed bunch of watches to wear, then you're not collecting watches any more than you're collecting clothes
I'm inclined to agree. Having a watch or watches for certain occasions or uses is building a wardrobe. A collection should have a theme. But I'm not going to go out of my way to correct anyone else. If they want to call it a collection, fine, I know what they're talking about.

>>18075089
>The B01 was pushed into the market 5 years early, it was not tested for longevity.
As near as I can figure it wasn't tested at all. There's no rhyme or reason to its problems. It's like every sub system in the movement has issues.

>>18075111
At this point, there's so much anger around Rolex's supply issues and the gray market/Rolex AD's stupid games (which Rolex cannot control) that no one can talk about the watches themselves anymore without inadvertently starting a fight. As shame, because the watches themselves are really good.

>>18075112
>Jerking off about specs or price is cringe.
To an extent. An unwearably ugly watch with a 500 hour power reserve will still be ugly. Between two equally nice watches though, specs make the difference.

>>18075121
Good morning. Very nice. Are the indices etched into the dial?

Have a good Saturday, friends.

>> No.18075157

>>18075086
>>A good collection has watches starting at 2-3k
LOL like what???

>> No.18075162

>>18075100
>retard asks for watches under 5k
>list ten watches under 5k
>HURR ITS TOO EXPENSIVE

Fucking kill yourself.

>> No.18075165

>>18075157
Breitling Navitimer, maybe a Tudor or even Longines, Tag Monaco, Seamaster etc.

If someone actually cares about watches and not status symbols he will have owned several of the above watches at one point in time.

>> No.18075172

>>18075165
>If someone actually cares about watches and not status symbols
You should not have added this because it outs you as a jealous person, bitter over what others purchase.

>> No.18075183

>>18075172
>oh no please dont hurt anybodys feelings

Shut the fuck up.

> jealous person, bitter over what others purchase.

This is what you are. You're projecting. I don't care what anyone owns, but a collection of hype pieces outs THAT person as a fucking plastic 69iq retard. Which you probably are.

>> No.18075185

>>18075183
Please, keep going. Tell us all the order in which we are allowed to buy watches.

>> No.18075188

>>18075185
That sort of gatekeeping bullshit pisses me off.

I owned nothing but Casios for most of my life. I got into watches in my late 20s. I didn't buy anything new, though. I spent time reading and learning. When I finally bought a mechanical watch, it was a Datejust. But I don't actually care about watches because I haven't owned a Tudor?

Some guy who wants a nice watch and regrets wasting his money on a bunch of shitters that could have gone towards paying for the watch he actually wanted if he just had the discipline to save instead of consoom?
Yeah, he can kick rocks.

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>>18075183
>Believing that people should buy what they want means you're bitter

>> No.18075215

>>18074885
seiko, hamilton, sinn, tissot, oris

>> No.18075218

>>18075185
>allowed
I didn't say you aren't allowed.

I said if you show me a collection of Daytonas and RMs and Oaks, I'll call you a micro dick new-money 69iq NPC without a mind of his own.

Now shut the fuck up you wannabe intellectual. I can tell you attempted higher education and failed.

>> No.18075219

>>18075193
wow that watch is very pretty

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>>18075218
>I'll call you a micro dick new-money 69iq NPC without a mind of his own.
yes because you're so predictable you're practically pre-programmed kek

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>> No.18075223

>>18075220
>oh no ive been found out
>lets change the subject

Retarded new money collector.

>> No.18075224

>>18075188
same.
one of the nice things about this general is that we can discuss budget watches and high end watches at the same time. on brand-specific forums, you usually only talk about that one brand.
of course, since nothing comes for free we have to deal with angry little jerks who try to turn the entire watch hobby into their narrow idea of it.

t. enjoys friendly chats about everything casio to cartier

>> No.18075226

>>18075223
Yep, I'm rich but I don't come from centuries of wealth. You've sure got me clocked.

I guess I'll just go buy whatever I want, because I'm...jealous? You'll have to explain your bitterlogic to me.

>> No.18075229

>>18075223
>new money as an insult
lmao, making your own money instead of your dads is a bad thing now?

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>>18075226

Stop engaging the bitter troll. He doesn't have any watches. He's just here to stir up shit.

Just post watches and have fun.

>> No.18075233

>>18075229
Yes because it requires stealing and exploiting people.

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>>18075193
Based.

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>>18075233
as opposed to having your great-grandfather steal from and exploit people?

>> No.18075249

>>18075226
>Yep, I'm rich
Prove it. You didn't even post your watches. I doubt you're rich or newly rich.

>> No.18075250

>>18075248
Yes, congratulations on being able to read and understand simple sentences?

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Does anyone else find "aventurine dial" really tacky?

>like wow, it's like the stars in the sky, so deep, so romantic XD

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>>18075249
>You're so rich and tasteless.
>...
>...shit
>OK, scratch that, you're...uh...NOT rich.

>> No.18075263

>>18075261
>pretending to be rich on the internet
>backpedaling when challenged to prove it

This is lower than any cuck. This is ultra cuck.

I would shit on your hype collection if you had one, but only pretending to have one, wow. That's pathetic.

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WTF not a single lock???? How?????

>> No.18075278

>>18075266
im not an anon that normally roasts u but that does look reaally big on your wrist

>> No.18075286

>>18075278
https://files.catbox.moe/54sj2d.mp4

>> No.18075292

>>18075266
>>18075274
Were you getting lonely in your own thread?

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>>18075263
You're the one that said he was rich, not him. He just confirmed it for you. I don't know why you're suddenly getting upset.

Maybe you need to get some air. Or perhaps post a wristshot, hmm?

>> No.18075301

Anybody know where I can get my Royal Oak serviced?

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>>18075297
Based. I'm wearing this. It's hard to get a pic of all the different dial textures at the same time.

>> No.18075305

>>18075221
based

>> No.18075307

>>18075301
>Anybody know where I can get my Royal Oak serviced?
If it's just a routine service, any watchmaker can do it.
If it needs parts, you may need to send it to AP itself.

>> No.18075316

yes I wear 45mm on 6.5 inch wrist

>> No.18075327

Sorry Switzerland I am even a weeb with watches I guess.

>> No.18075332

>>18074897
nice collection

>> No.18075335

>>18075253
yeah, I think it's too intense
would work on a less crowded dial, like dot indices, smaller hands, more dressy, like h moser or I think the chinkshit tourbillon had one that fit it fairly well

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Explorer1 and OP are better than Datejust

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>>18075253

>> No.18075341
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>>18075340

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Making list video after list video every week has to get old fast, huh?

>> No.18075343

>>18075274
no kokujins

>> No.18075351

>>18075253
Look up blue sandstone and SEETHE then

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>>18074324
I'd kill for this watch

>> No.18075366

>>18075355
Why not buy one?

>> No.18075369

>>18075355
For a cartier? Wow.

>> No.18075379

>>18075253
I like shiny stuff so while I respect your opinion, I don't care.

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>>18075355
For me it's the Pebble.

>> No.18075385

>>18075266
Wtf based

>> No.18075398

>>18075384
Looks like a vagina

>> No.18075404

>>18074837
>Orient
>Shit
>Orient with a suit
>Based
Wow, I guess I should buy a suit next time I consider another shitter

>> No.18075411

>>18075398
Your mom's doesn't look anything like it.

>> No.18075443
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Cop or not?
340 Eurobucks.

>> No.18075445

>>18075443
get the smaller model with the traditional dial layout. solid watch. don't support Mark from long island watch tho.. buy it elsewhere

>> No.18075457

>>18075221
>>18075193
I picked one of these up recently and I fucking love the thing. Bracelet feels really good too, absolute steal for £140.

>> No.18075466

>>18075445
Whats wrong with long island watch?

>> No.18075502

Has anyone here ever made their own watch? It seems like you can put one together for pretty cheap if you pick out the parts yourself.

>> No.18075513

>>18075502
I helped a buddy do it a few times. If you get modding parts off dedicated makers or on ebay or wherever then you can easily "kitbash" your own watch.
If you want to have any sort of custom parts, your pricetag will instantly jump from three figures to five figures due to the price of tools and necessary machines alone.

>> No.18075527
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18075527

Is it possible to put thin scratches like this on high polish cases by wiping it with microfiber cloth (wet or dry)?

Or anything else that doesn't include rubbing metal against it? Because I struggle to imagine my fingernails put scratches into steel.

>> No.18075532

>>18075527
>Is it possible to put thin scratches like this on high polish cases by wiping it with microfiber cloth
No.
>Or anything else that doesn't include rubbing metal against it?
Yes, a polishing brush with the appropriate polishing paste.
Metals get scratched, your Rolex had at most 3 weeks in pristine shape. Get over it.

>> No.18075534
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18075534

Let’s get drunk.

>> No.18075535

>>18075527
Watches are made to be worn. They WILL get scratched no matter what you do and the sooner you realize that the better.

>> No.18075537
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18075537

>>18074536
after several weeks of absence, happy to see my collection on the first thread I viewed.
for clarity, only the breguet date window is misalligned (and only after the 20th)
I put a brown/oxblood cordovan strap on the speedmaster and alternate between that and the fake sub. I would sell the rest if it weren't illegal to do so. I was just trying out some of the iconic models.
p.s. pen doesn't leak and writes fabuously. got it on ebay for $300. considering getting a 149 next.

>> No.18075543

>>18075537
Looks like a kid wearing his daddys Rolex.

Stick to 39mm.

>> No.18075549

>>18075537
>my collection
You forgot to add "of fake chinese shitters".
That's a collection of fake chinese shitters.

>> No.18075553
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18075553

Bros... I think I like it...

>> No.18075558

>>18075537
All are fake?

>> No.18075560

>>18075535
Worn & Wound

>> No.18075562

>>18075231
36 or 40 Explorer?

>> No.18075563

Should I buy a BB54 or is that a cope watch?

>> No.18075567

>>18075562
There's a 37mm Black Bay 54 right next to it and the Explorer is visibly smaller, what do you think?

>> No.18075571

>>18075563
Turdor is Rolex cope.

Get a Breitling Superocean Heritage II, same movement but a real watch brand with a following.

>> No.18075572

>>18075534
Based Hamilton drunk

>> No.18075573
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18075573

>>18075571
I kind of like this one. Too bad about the retarded indices.

>> No.18075574

>>18075573
ETA shitter

Get the Heritage II B20 only. Any size or color.

>> No.18075575

>>18075574
I'm not the anon asking about the BB54. I just like the look of that Breitling. Also I don't care about movement. Only style matters.

>> No.18075576

>>18075575
>Only style matters.
Wrong. ETA has no business in watches above a certain price point. You're being ripped off buying it.

Also,
>40 hour power reserve in a brand new watch
>2024

Stop buying this crap.

>> No.18075580

>>18075576
Bro I wear 60 years old watches. I couldn't care less about power reserve and specs.

>> No.18075582

>>18075558
speedmaster is genuine

>> No.18075585

>>18075580
Okay, but your vintage pieces are collectible. Current ETA shitters are the opposite of collectible. Just be smart when buying newer watches.

>> No.18075589

>>18075582
Keep speedy, dump trash.
I was not lucky as you with MB pen (it was the worst pen I ever had).

>> No.18075591

>>18075573
never seen a watch in a color like that. even for a diver's watch that's a bit weird, although it does have some kind of tropical ocean feeling to it

>> No.18075592

>>18075589
I have a MB wallet, the MB logo fell off after a few months of use.

>> No.18075599

>>18075592
wallet preferably should not have any logo.
so it has become even better.

>> No.18075610

>>18075589
yeah but they really don't feel like trash. especially the sub and the daytona feel like genuine pieces. I have the means to get a real sub but can't justify spending 20x for practically the same product. and even if I got it, would I even wear the gen? or keep it in the safe and keep rocking the rep, which I don't have to worry about breaking or losing.
also really want a gen calatrava, but the servicing seems like it would be a hassle.
any idea if patek will anounce a new calatrava at w&w next week?

>> No.18075613

>>18075553
Bros... Should I? Is buying a bronze watch really that retarded?

>> No.18075620

>>18075571
breitling makes me think of fat old men for some reason

>> No.18075627
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18075627

>>18075572
Ur mums based

>> No.18075635

>>18075613
it looks good but bronze is retarded. the alternative is rose gold I guess

>> No.18075636

>>18075610
Well, my opinion is "if you like the watch - buy gen".
I periodically wear all the watches I have (7 in total). I don't get mad about scratches also.
I have one rolex, which is almost 30 yrs old, running perfectly (+2s/day) and serviceable. I don't think that replica will perform like this after 30 yrs.

>> No.18075640
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18075640

If i own this one day, i will be happy

>> No.18075643
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18075643

>>18075640
But this cartier im looking to buy in a month

>> No.18075648

>>18075640
Lapis? Long out of production.
And there will never be a new version with acrylic crystal. Rolex is not old good Rolex anymore.

>> No.18075650

>>18075640
spent too much time in afghanistan that I can't take anything with lapis lazuli seriously. It was so cheap there.

>> No.18075653

>>18075610
>>18075636
If you like the Submariner, you have the money and means to buy it, you should do it. Life is for living. Life is too short to wear cheap things. Keep the Omega, buy the Rolex, buy the Patek and STOP. The ideal is to have a small collection of high-quality pieces. For me, three watches plus a digital one is the ideal.

>> No.18075661
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18075661

>>18075650
>spent too much time in afghanistan
Good goy.

>> No.18075667

>>18075653
>>18075636
thanks, this is mostly my thinking as well. sub+calatrava to supplement my speedy and then stop.
the reps were very helpful in helping me figure out which ones I wanted.
daytona is just not iconic enough. like the seamaster, its design changes too often. wouldn't want two chronos anyway.
dd is classic, but just not for me, not yet. maybe not ever.
breguet is the hardest to let go. I really like the design language and style, but I know I will never buy a breguet new. simply too much of a depreciation hit.
I just wish patek still made the 5196 or something similar. the 6119 just won't do. may have to end up buying that used, but resisting the urge.

>> No.18075677
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18075677

Maybe somebody here would know something about this

I bought this broken cartier to mess around with and take apart but I’m having some trouble removing this part of the movement from the rest of the case so I can get to the dial/hands

Anyone have any ideas on how to actually get it out

>> No.18075685

>>18075661
war is fun, read junger and evola. Reason I joined was to kill, geopolitical ambitions dont matter desu

>> No.18075691

>>18075685
>t. pog

>nuh-uh, I was a special forces marine recon seal sniper

>> No.18075702

>>18075691
killing is fun and you get power over people, good enough for me. Now I made contacts and work in a government job landscaping and being a welfare queen with all my gov benefits :3

>> No.18075703

>>18075685
>read junger and evola
>geopolitical ambitions dont matter
Retarded mutt.
Here's what Evola had to say about your country btw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6pBCG-tluE

>> No.18075704

>>18075703
I take the good with the bad, he was a childless cripple who got bombed. joining the military for killing is based and funpilled

>> No.18075711

>>18075703
larping got mad american bvlls had their way with italian women

>> No.18075714

>>18075703
he's fucking larping, bro. not even that convincingly.

>> No.18075720
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18075720

>>18075534
Based

>> No.18075727
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18075727

>>18075457
I'm glad I influenced your life in a positive way. Wear the stiletto in good health and stay safe fren.

>> No.18075799

what is the best diver with sapphire crystal & ceramic bezel under $1000?

>> No.18075803

>>18075799
Certina DS Action Diver ofc

>> No.18075804

>>18074536
The first row does look fake, like there's no anti-reflective coating.
The second row is less obvious.

>> No.18075805
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18075805

>>18075799
A dead diver

>> No.18075818
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18075818

>>18075141
Yeah, etched indices, then plated I think. Love this watch.

>> No.18075822
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18075822

>unironically wears this
watcu gon do bout it

>> No.18075823
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18075823

anons i kinda want one of these. white gold, micro-rotor movement, 38mm diameter, 9mm thickness

>> No.18075826
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18075826

>>18075823
movement

>> No.18075828

>>18075823
they're great. just make sure to buy used. the depreciation is murder.

>> No.18075833

>>18075822
Call you based.

>> No.18075835

>>18075833
Thanks bro

>> No.18075839
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18075839

>>18075828
>make sure to buy that 15 years old watch used

>> No.18075846

>>18075839
nta but never buy a chopard new. its not bad advice.

>> No.18075858

Bow the fuck is Archie always livestreaming? When I watch one of his prerecorded videos he'll repeat himself 400 times in 10 minutes stretching out the time, I can't imagine what he could be talking about for hours every night.

>> No.18075859

>>18075846
>nta but
sure, sure. faggot.

>> No.18075862

>>18075826
You look like that Asian guy from revenge of the nerds.

>> No.18075865

>that's too big for your wrist bro
https://youtube.com/shorts/JD8PM9CYSfc?si=5JsiIlma2aT0V5pv

>> No.18075869

>>18075823
what an ugly dial!

>> No.18075892

>>18075640
if they make ANYTHING close to this blue dial with the current gen Day Dates thats instant grail for me

>> No.18075896

After watching this video, I am formally retiring from watch collecting. It has officially jumped the shark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne87sGX--9w

>> No.18075903

>>18075896
So...
plane or boat?

>> No.18075909

>>18075859
Let me guess, you just got called out for samefagging?
Don't answer. That was a rhetorical question

>> No.18075976

>>18075896
I'm not clicking your phishing links

>> No.18075988
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18075988

>>18075534
Ok

>> No.18075994

>>18075988
It's 12:00pm, stop drinking so early.

>> No.18075995

>>18075994
Its 5:00 somewhere except here where its 10:05

>> No.18075999

>>18075896
>>18075976
The discussion focuses on luxury watches, particularly Rolex, Patek Philippe, and TAG Heuer models.
There is a strong preference for classic, timeless Rolex designs like the Day-Date over more modern, flashy watch styles.
The speaker is interested in getting a TAG Heuer Monaco watch, which was famously worn by Steve McQueen.
There is a critique of how luxury watch brands artificially inflate prices and create artificial scarcity to drive up demand.
The speaker is skeptical of trends like rubber straps and ceramic cases, seeing them as not true luxury materials.
There is a discussion of how some celebrities like Floyd Mayweather ruin the value of their watches by heavily customizing them with diamonds.
The speaker has a strong appreciation for watch design details and symmetry, critiquing brands like Audemars Piguet for having unbalanced dial layouts.
Rolex is praised for the consistency and refinement of its dial designs compared to other luxury brands.
The speaker plans to eventually purchase a Rolex Day-Date as their "forever" watch, seeing it as a timeless classic.
There is an acknowledgement that one can get carried away collecting too many watches, and the speaker plans to limit themselves to just 3 key pieces.

>> No.18076055
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18076055

>>18075999

>> No.18076056

>>18076055
yes its ai

>> No.18076059

>>18075999
Also
>Rolex
>Good dials
I mean.... Yeah let's not kidd ourselves here. Nobody buys a rolex for their basic sunburst dials.

>> No.18076087

>>18075677
Sounds like a front-loader to me, meaning you'll need to remove the bezel and the movement will come out at the front of the watch. Then you can remove the hands, dial and function-setting area.

>> No.18076090

>>18075677
Tell us once you get it.

>> No.18076091

>>18075826
No Geneva hallmark?

>> No.18076096
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18076096

>>18075823
>>18075826
The movements are ok but before you get one, it is VITAL that you check what ratcheted wheel is in the automatic winding system.
Some of the LUC calibers used brass wheels in that area on uprpuse so the steel pawls would dig into the wheel over time. Once that happens, not only does the automatic winding system no longer transmit its force to the rest of the watch, but since it also acts as a click-stopper for the barrel, you can also not manually wind the watch more than a few turns of the crown.
That was done on purpose so your watch would eat itself aftr a few years of use and you'd have no choice but to send it to be serviced quicker than you normally would.
They replaced it with a steel wheel after a while due to a few unhappy owners and a few unhappy watchmakers that were not allowed to do this simple repair because "it's too complicated for you, only we can do it at the factory (and also charge you for it and increase the overall bill for the end consumer)"
For your own good, check if that wheel is brass or steel and ask if the watch has been serviced if you can't see it for yourself.
>not serviced since 2015
Likely to still have a brass wheel
>serviced since 2015
Steel wheel put as a replacement

>> No.18076099

>>18076091
Depends when, some of these movements were made in the Neuchatel area and therefore can't have the Geneva stamp.
Because they're not made in the Geneva canton.
They may very well have full, all-sides decoration, no spring-wires and appropriate rate regulation (which is laughable for the Geneva seal, it's basically "not more than +10s/day", an ETA can easily do that), they still can't qualify if they're not made in Geneva.

>> No.18076103

>>18076099
I read the revised list of what you need to get the Hallmark, it's quite a mouthful. If these movement really is on the same standards, then it's amazing. It sucks that only watches made in Geneva are allowed to get the mark. Philippe dufour doesn't get thr mark then?

>> No.18076116

>>18076103
A lot of excellent movements can't specifically because it's a regional norm and a LOT of watches are made in the Neuchatel canton. Moser couldn't get it either since they're in Schaffhausen.
And if you ask me, a lot of the requirements are not that impressive. You can do perlage on every surface, some machine beveling which is not hard or time-consuming, and you could qualify.
Much like the Swiss Made label, or COSC, it sounds impressive if you don't really know what it entails.
>you can't have limitor pins for your pallet fork
Oh so instead it needs to be dug unto the base plate or the fork bridge, which means that if it gets damaged over time, you can't adjust the pin, you have to replace the entire base plate. Wonderful.
>inertia regulation is allowed
If you really wanted to make a point of your accuracy and reliability, they should be mandatory. This is a qualification for higher end movement so the extra cost would not be an issue but the fact that THIS is a side note while you have tons of criteria for beveling on wheels shows where the priorities are.
Now the list and authentication of calibers though? THAT is a great idea.

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18076129

>>18075896
Listening to amerimutts talking about watches is always hilarious. Notice how they only mention sports watches despite being overweight?
Pic related is an american made watch btw.

>> No.18076153

>>18076129
>Devon
>watches of Mayfair
Sounds British mate

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18076155

>>18076153

>> No.18076156

>>18076155
Monstrous watch. Makes no sense

>> No.18076160

>>18075858
>I can't imagine what he could be talking about for hours every night.

Mainly
>drama about some NPCs that nobody even knows or cares about that may or may not be trying to bring him down by collaborating with other streamers behind his back
>being forced to read superchats because he forgets and doesn't care until someone tells him
>being forced to talk about watches when someone pays money to ask about a model

Archie is over watches. He doesn't give a fuck anymore. You can tell by his reviews as well.

And I don't really blame him. For a guy who has been collecting watches for decades, Archie has never established his own collectors identity. Sure he made a couple watches popular, like inventing the Man on the fucking Moon nickname for the Speedy, and he keeps preaching about Patek and Rolex, but who doesn't. I don't think he has bad taste in watches but he has boring taste in watches. The odd times he buys something actually unique and refreshing, like the IWC Ingenieur or the Breguet, he ends up selling it after a year or so because it's not Rolex. It's kind of sad that his idea of collecting is having ten watches that all look and feel the same plus a Patek world time.

>> No.18076176

So my automatic JLC used to let me manually wind it without ever encountering the typical "click" noise that you get when the spring is fully wound

However now about a month or two of using it, it started doing that exact click to indicate being fully wound. Does anyone know how this could happen? It was definitely fully wound before, I checked the power reserve at the time, just no clicking noise. Now it makes it. It was just serviced a couple months ago and I'm wondering if this has to do with a break in period.

>> No.18076192
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18076192

>>18076176
There is no such thing as a "break-in period" and if there is, it's the time oils need to set in, which is a few days and happens at the factory or service center, usually before the watch is regulated.
"Break-in period" is the watch equivalent of "burning in" your audio gear : it's a way to make you wait out the end of your warranty, thinking that anything a little off is just part of the breaking-in.
As for the clicking, it can be normal in an automatic watch, it's what happens when the split mainspring is fully wound and slips off the notches inside the barrel. This is supposed to happen so you can't overwind an automatic the way you can a manual. Not every spring is as noisy depending on the material, not every barrel is as noisy either.
During service, barrels are usually changed entirely as the mainspring tends to weaken overtime, especially if you had it serviced at a JLC/Richemont center. They have all the parts they need so they just switch the entire barrel since opening it, cleaning it and the mainspring and the barrel arbor takes some time, some dedicated tools and you have some real risks of deforming the spring a little. so they just use new barrels fresh from the factory instead. That could explain it, you have an entirely new piece in your movement so it's going to behave a bit differently.
If you notice that you've lost some power reserve, then the split end of the mainspring is broken and what you're hearing is the spring sliding over that broken part. That's not likely but it could be it.

>> No.18076210

>>18076192
Thanks, I'll time the power reserve.

>> No.18076220

>>18074324
Fellas is the urge to own a cartier watch a good motivation to get rich?

>> No.18076230

I am going to buy a Tudor Black Bay 58.

>> No.18076237

>>18076230
I might buy the GMT

>> No.18076248

>>18076220
>vintage Cartier
Sort of, because the current prices are ridiculous so the time you'll need to gather the funds may be enough for them to drop. Unless you're after the rare stuff, which likely won't decrease much in value.
>modern Cartier
No. They are one of the absolute worst brands when it comes to quality relative to price. Your average Cartier watch is on the same level of finishing as watches ten times cheaper. The fact that they use quartz movements worth about 30 bucks considering the price point is a joke and not a good one. The service is also dogshit if you go through any authorized channel, they've only started actually servicing SOME movements instead of replacing everything outright (yes, even in mechanical watches) in 2021.
Do not, ever, under any circumstances, buy a new Cartier.

>> No.18076253

>>18076248
Thanks for the advice, you're obviously well informed. I will store this knowledge in the back of my head until I can afford a non-apple watch

>> No.18076257

>>18076248
Perhaps this reflects the fact Cartier is a jeweller not a watchmaker

>> No.18076258
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18076258

Kofe time.

>> No.18076264

>>18076160
Archie does have an identity as a collector. He likes Reverso and Bluesy. But the watches that represent him the most are the Patek world time and the Rolex Explorer 2 Polar. He is one of the YouTube collectors with a more defined taste, his opposite is TGV who has a larp collection, he has a yellow gold DD to larp as a Soprano character, he has the Explorer 1 to larp as James Bond, He bought a vintage Santos when the Old Money aesthetic became fashionable. Archi may be unpleasant but he is an honest guy.

>> No.18076266

>>18076264
Archie is probably the last type of person I'd ever associate with an explorer 2.

>> No.18076267

>>18076266
So you haven't seen many of his videos.

>> No.18076272
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18076272

Could this be the best watch in the world?

https://deployant.com/review-enter-the-dragon-the-citizen-aq-4020-54y-best-quartz-watch-in-the-world/

>> No.18076274

>>18076267
What aboit this screeching retarded fatass in a cardigan makes you think GMT field watch?

>> No.18076275

>>18076264
As I said his identity is that he's afraid to venture outside of the Rolex bubble. He BARELY owns a Patek at this point (when was the last time he wore or showed it?). What watches does he own currently that aren't mainstream generic status symbol bait?
>Moonwatch
>Breguet Type 21
And the Breguet he bought a couple months ago, and he will sell it within the year, GUARANTEED.

The only reason he still has the Moonwatch is that it was a gift from his friends after he was robbed. He openly said he would sell it otherwise. So then his collection is

>Rolex
>Rolex
>Rolex
>Patek

It's lame as fuck. And yeah, TGV is a cancerous fucking cringelord. I'm just saying that Archie isn't a serious watch collector to me anymore. Archie should have something interesting and unique in his collection. Why doesn't he own the new IWC Ingenieur?

His answer is going to be
>it won't hold its value
That's pathetic. No reason to burn money but if that's the only reason you don't own a watch, you're not a collector. I owned less desirable watches and I sold them with a small hit (few hundred bucks), who gives a shit.

>> No.18076279

>>18076272
The caliber 0100 sounds nice.

>> No.18076280

>>18076275
How do you "barely" own a watch? You either have one or you don't.

>> No.18076282

>>18076280
By keeping it in the safe 364 days a year and not even wearing it on streams. He fucking hates his Patek. He doesn't like or want it anymore. The guy is washed up.

>> No.18076286

>>18076282
>You BARELY own a Porche!
Except I paid for it, the title is in my name, it's in my garage, and I pay the insurance on it? Yeah, I guess despite all that I don't own it because some faggot thinks I don't drive it as often as he'd like.

>> No.18076288

>>18076286
What you said satirically is sadly the problem. You think you own the Porsche but it owns you. You're too much of a bitch faggot to even use it the way it's meant to be used. You're a cuck for material goods that you legally own. You're lower than pond scum.

Grow some fucking balls.

>> No.18076289

>>18076286
And by the way, you don't even know how to spell Porsche. If you actually "own" one, that really says it all. I rest my case.

>> No.18076297

>>18076288
>>18076289
I don't own one and that wasn't the point.

>> No.18076298

>>18076257
That's funny because when you say this about how shit the construction on the Clou bracelets or their Panthère jewels is, the typical response is "well that's because Cartier is a watchmaker first and a jeweler second".

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>>18076288
>you need to use that thing I can't afford the way I would use it in order to actually own it

>> No.18076305

>>18076264
Honestly the worst thing with TGV isn't even his LARPing, it's how bad his tunnelvision is when it comes to his own taste and how that always end up with his arguments being "it's good because I like it". With some pretty funny results. He is very honest in that, he's just very poorly informed too.
>Nivada is owning the microbrand market!
lmao no, the F77 has zero hype compared to CWard's Twelve, but he likes it a lot therefore Nivada is doing great and everyone loves them since he saw two of his drones on instragram show their mecaquartz chronos.
>Cartier is great in quartz!
You couldn't find a mechanical Tank or Santos within your budget. Cope.
>Fortis is THE definitive brand when it comes to space history!
It's cool that they still try to keep mechanical watches space-ready but it's an empty pursuit. The reason the Speedmaster is the only mechanical watches approved by NASA for EVA is because there is no need to approve another since EVAs won't use mechanical watches at this point.
>Panerai Panerai Paneraaaaai!
[sad and angry Perezscope sounds]

>> No.18076306

>>18076275
>Why doesn't he own the new IWC Ingenieur?
He wouldn't buy it and I wouldn't buy it either. I would never spend 12K on a Richemont movement

>> No.18076310

>>18074556
It's a good-looking affordable DayDate, you have my blessing

>> No.18076312

>>18076305
TGV makes money from collaborating with microbrands, he doesn't make honest reviews

>> No.18076313

>>18076305
Does he actually say the f77 is COMMERCIALLY dominating, or is he talking about the design and features for the cost? If we're talking about commercial sales I don't think anyone in the under $2k price bracket is beating Tissot PRX, but several other options are just flat out better watches.

>> No.18076317

>>18076298
Cartier’s always been a jeweller primarily

>> No.18076319

>>18076298
>well that's because Cartier is a watchmaker first and a jeweler second
from whom?

>> No.18076323

>>18076264
Are there even any good and legit collectors on youtube, or even people talking about it without shilling or being clueless once you get past the PR platitudes everyone knows already?
>Nico Leonard
Clickbait shit, awful taste to boot.
>Federico
Seems knowledgeable enough, has okay taste. Makes the most boring content you will ever see.
Also, fat people should not be taken seriously.
>Mahk
At least he's aware enough that his brand is cheapo cope for modders and budget-enthusiasts.
>TGV
Larper who keeps mistaking what he likes for what everyone likes, follows trends with several years of lag and doesn't even realize it.
>Mad Watch Collector
fucking cringe
>Teddy Bulbasaur
Became more and more of a shill as his store grew, probably reached a point of no-return with his brick and mortar store.
>the Theo and Harris guys
The actual worst kind of shills : they don't even have a commercial relation to maintain with the brands they suck off since they only sell vintage, they just want to be good boys so they can be invited to the next events, so they won't ever say anything bad about any brand and if they do it's watered down and prefaced with five minutes of "but they're great and we love them and we've met them and it was amazing"
>Jenni Elle
read specs sheets but is woman therefore horny fuckers will watch their waifu read spec sheets
>The Time Teller
Would be a boring Rolex fanboy and nothing more if he wasn't also obnoxious, loud, and trying extremely hard with his meme editing
>JOMWA
At least he's self-aware about being the shitter king I guess

>> No.18076328

>>18076323
>Teddy Bulbasaur
Kek'd out loud. He's the only one I watch anyway (I'm a board tourist)

>> No.18076330

>>18076323
There's that South African IDguy. He's got interesting content but basically only likes divers.

>> No.18076332
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wearing the ultimate rolex cope today

>>18075828
thats the plan

>>18075869
meh i like it. the cut off 7 and 5 do come close to ruining it for me, but lets see

>>18076096
thanks for the info I'll keep all of this in mind

>> No.18076335

>>18076323
Archie is the first and the best, his life is a fucking mess and you can see he doesn't look very good. However, he knows about watches and his opinions are honest.

Oisin O Mailly is also good, he is a Rolex fanboy, which is ok for me because I like Rolex despite modern atrocities like maxi cases. The problem with Osin is that he has promotional content like TGV

>> No.18076338

>>18076332
Beautiful watch, I prefer this one to a Submariner maxi case with a ceramic bezel

>> No.18076339

>>18076330
I watch IDguy and nico leonard, very different styles but put together it’s balanced

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>>18076332
or maybe ill buy picrel genta cope. faterico has one for sale at a good price.

>>18076338
thanks, i always liked the dial layout on the tudor subs better than the rolex subs.

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18076347

I only watch Mike Nouveau because I'm a raging antisemite who also like vintage.

>> No.18076349

>>18076345
Of all the Genta cope watches out there, that one's probably the best. GP's movements are really underrated.

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>>18076347
I also watch this guy, Gai Gohari. He's the weirdest guy in the vintage watch world.
>VERY JEWISH (look at that nose)
>wears a kippa all the time
>anti-vaxx
>very critical of Israel
>loves Ralph Lauren

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>>18076349
thats basically my thought. im not at the point where i would spend the money for a good RO or nautilus example and any of the other copes would be embarrassing to own/wear. this new 38mm model would also fit my bitch wrists better than the normal 42mm model

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>stopped wearing watches since 20 years ago
>buy picrel
>looks good on me ( wristlet lanklet)

Problem is my wrist swells alot whenever i do anything physical and i cant really re-adjust the size of it "on the fly".
Should i get the cheapest g-shock there is and switch the wristband to nato one ?

>> No.18076360

>>18076349
>of all watches available, he likes GP

What's it like being a contrarian for the sake of being a contrarian? GP is a bullshit brand.

>> No.18076361

>>18076301
>words that don't make any sense
Pic related was a selfie I guess.

>>18076306
>and I wouldn't buy it either.
I don't remember asking. Who the fuck are you?

Archie said he misses his old Ingenieur and he loves the new one (but it's too expensive, which it is). You don't even have a fucking clue what you're talking about.

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>>18076349
I'd say it's the worst one, because it's the most obvious. Basically a Royal Oak with a Nautilus bracelet.
>inb4 "ackchyually the Laureato predates the Nautilus"
Pic related. The one on the right came out in 1975, one year before the Nautilus. Then they changed the bracelet.

>> No.18076363

>ArchieLuxury
GOAT.
>Urban Gentry
Used to be good, like five or so years ago. His early reviews are what got me into watches. You could see genuine enthusiasm in them. He also pointed small aesthetic details and how they made him feel which was a nice personal touch. Now he pretends he invented YouTube or something.
>Teddy Bald ass arre
He's inoffensive but his content is directed towards people who know nothing about watches to shill his store. Although his recent series about other people's watch collections are nice.
>JOMW
He's probably a nice guy and reviews are okay. However, shilling AliExpress brands is tasteless at best.
>Ben's Watch Club
Dick jokes aside, I quite like him. Don't know why some people here have issues with him.
>Just the Watch
Actually one of the better watch reviewers out there, though he only reviews shitters.
>IDguy
Used to be good when he actually discussed watch design. Now he pretends to be an industry analyst for some reason.
>Mad Watch Collector
Heh, well, let's just say... Yeah.
>You're Terrific
Maybe it's just my personal opinion but his reviews are 90% jokes and 90% of those jokes are painfully unfunny cringe self-loathing modern "comedy" at its worst.
>Watch Crunch
Okay.
>Any female watch blogger
Simp garbage.
There are a few others I watch from time to time but in general, watch YouTube space is grim.

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>>18076362
GP is just the most retarded watchmaker out there.
>says GP on the dial
>says Girard Perrgeaux underneath it

Into the fucking trashcan it goes.

>>18076353
What's remarkable about this movement? The finish is the same as highest grade ETA movements. It doesn't seem to use a free sprung balance, it's a normal regulator balance.

Honestly I would prefer an Omega METAS movement to this GP "in house" bullshit movement. I think the finish is superior, and Omegas newest movements are underrated.

>> No.18076369

>>18076360
>contrarian means "opinion different from my own"
We all have opinions, anon, but yours has been discarded.

>> No.18076370

>>18076369
The only reason you prefer the GP is because it's not well known. You want to be different. Tell me one reason to objectively prefer the GP to other Genta watches.

>> No.18076372

>>18076370
He flat out said it was a Genta cope. The Genta watches are obviously better. We're talking about Genta copes (e.g. Laureato, Overseas, etc)

Just relax. Not everything has to be a shitflinging hissy fit. No one here is personally attacking you.

>> No.18076373

>>18076372
But why is it better Genta cope than the others?

And why are you referring to watches designed or predating Genta as "Genta cope"? Do you even know what the words mean?

>> No.18076375

>>18076350
>>anti-vaxx
Sold. That's VERY rare for a jew.

>> No.18076376

>>18076373
>And why are you referring to watches designed or predating Genta as "Genta cope"?
Genta's Royal Oak came out in 1972. Laureato came out in 1975. That's not predating Genta, is it? The Overseas came out in 1996. That's definitely not predating Genta, is it?

>> No.18076377

>>18076373
It's obvious you're just trying to start a fight. Just stop, okay?

>> No.18076379

>>18076377
I'm just tired of meme sentences being thrown around lightly.

>>18076376
Both the GP and the 222 are Genta inspired, but the GP came out before the Nautilus even. The Ingenieur was designed in 1974.

>> No.18076380

>>18076372
>Not everything has to be a shitflinging hissy fit.
Yes it does. You're not allowed to have a subjective opinion.

>> No.18076385

>>18076379
>Both the GP and the 222 are Genta inspired, but the GP came out before the Nautilus even. The Ingenieur was designed in 1974.
Yes, but the Royal Oak, which they're all inspired by came out in NINETEEN SEVENTY-TWO. 1972 < 1974.

The only reason the Nautilus is not a Genta cope is because Genta designed it and the same goes for the Ingenieur.

>> No.18076389

>>18076385
Watches of the same era that share design cues are not cope. Tissot making a brand new Genta inspired watch today, that's cope.

But keep your delusions, it's not like you can afford any of the mentioned pieces.

>> No.18076393

>>18076389
What defines a cope is the price.

>> No.18076398

>>18076389
>Watches of the same era that share design cues are not cope.
Whooo, look at those goalposts fly!

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looks like some people here got mad at the genta cope comment. my bad... it was just a sarcastic comment. the laureato (or maybe the chopard >>18075823) are watches that i like and am considering buying.

>>18076372
idk if i consider the overseas a genta cope. IMO thats stands on its own. id love to buy the lates blue dial one, but it would be over 2x the price. not really what im looking to spend right now.

>>18076385
the new ingenieur seems ok, just dont really IWC much. also both can be found for around the same price at which point id rather just go for the laureato.

>> No.18076403

>>18076401
Overseas Dual Time would be cool

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>>18076403
i love the limited edition everest one they have, but thats just ridiculously priced. i feel like the different dial texture makes the weird layout look better. with the fp journe blue dial, i prefer a plain dial

>> No.18076411

>>18076401
>idk if i consider the overseas a genta cope. IMO thats stands on its own.
I love the VCOS but it is most definitely a Genta cope. It ticks all the make-a-Royal-Oak boxes.

>40-42mm size
>wacky case construction (I know, it's not actually a screwed-down bezel, but the 222's was)
>integrated bracelet with unique links
>blue, textured dial

>> No.18076412

>>18076407
strong red > meh orange

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thoughts?
i think it's cool in a bond villain kind of way
only 50 bucks too

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similarly

>> No.18076423

>>18076416
It's certainly unique. Not sure if I like the bezel. It's like they tried to do the Rolex fluting and realized part way through that it's a pain in the ass or something, so they evened it out and took a long lunch.

>> No.18076427

>>18076393
>What defines a cope is the price.
>if Nautilus sold for $10 it'd be Genta cope
>by the way i have no income.
So you're clinically retarded? Got it.

Remind me to never attempt serious watch talk here again.

>> No.18076439

>>18075896
this is like when fornite kids started wearing jordans

>> No.18076443

>>18076418
What is that case made of? Brass?

>> No.18076447

NEW THREAD
>>18076445
>>18076445
>>18076445
>>18076445

>> No.18076459

>>18076447
You're early and you forgot to link the previous thread in the new OP.

Delete and try again.

>> No.18076467

>>18076443
it is brass yeah

>> No.18076507

>>18076427
>>if Nautilus sold for $10 it'd be Genta cope
What kind of dumbass reasoning is that? You're literally making up the most unlikely scenario to prove your point lmao. You'd think Genta - a reknown watch designer who previously worked for UG, Omega, Rolex and AP - would have designed a $10 watch after making the Royal Oak? Retard.

And yes, what defines a cope is the price.
>I can't afford a Submariner, so I'll buy a Black Bay
>I can't afford a Royal Oak, so I'll buy a Laureato
>I can't afford a Tank Louis, so I'll buy a Tank Must

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>Joshua Weissman wearing a Pepsi in his latest video
based

>> No.18076520
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>old 1940s watch service
> has a blued mainspring
>reusing it because it didn't look tired at all (the watch was broken and I suspect spent 60 years in a drawer so why not)
hnnng that colour

>> No.18076525

>>18076520
Why would you heat treat a mainspring? Corrosion resistance?

>> No.18076527

>>18076525
>to get it past the Curie point and prevent magnetization best as possible
>because the barrel anchoring point would be too brittle and break too easily

>> No.18076532

>>18074536
They make fake speed masters?

>> No.18076540

>>18076532
>they make fakes of a famous watch?
Most intelligent watch enthusiast.

>> No.18076591

>>18076532
nothing worth your time. that speedmaster is genuine.

>> No.18076603

>>18075563
Cope for what?

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>>18075573
this one would probably fit your lifestyle better

>> No.18076655
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18076655

I'm not a watch enjoyer and I also work in finance where everybody is just wearing a rolex as a status symbol, so I choose to wear nothing rather than drop thousands on something I don't even enjoy.

Am I making a mistake? Should I buy a rolex just to fit in?
I feel if I buy anything else it just says "this guy couldn't afford a rolex"

>> No.18076720

>>18076520
That's cool. We need more watches with blued mainsprings and heatsink casebacks.

>> No.18076774

>>18076655
Do you want a watch? Then buy a watch. Do you not want a watch? Then don't buy a watch.

Regardless of whether you buy one or not, you need to make that decision for yourself and not look to others for validation.

>> No.18076842

What's wrong with the BB54 anyway?

>> No.18076846

>>18076842
Nothing really as long as you don't mind the size/proportions. I just wish tudor would put the damn t-fit clasp on the BB58 already.

>> No.18076847

>>18076842
Did anyone say there's something wrong with it? I think it's fantastic.

>> No.18077047

>>18076155
Looks very much American tbqh

>> No.18077112

>>18076272
How the fuck do you get SO much with less than 2K? If this was a cringe smug indi swiss maker, this watch would be 5 digits.

>> No.18077145

>>18075084
>Up to 5k:
several of these are above $5k. Seamaster even with non bracelet strap is above $5k slightly.

>> No.18077621

>>18075084
>The possibilities are endless
Claude?

>> No.18077813

>>18076323
What about youreterrific and watchcrunch? Kino basedboys. Idguy is good also

>> No.18077926

>>18075084
There are no less desirable gmts under 10k unless you get it at msrp

>> No.18078607

>>18074344
Lmao weeb