/tip/ - Trad Ivy Prep General

[Anonymous No.18069329]

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>FORUMS
www.forums.filmnoirbuff.com
askandyaboutclothes.com/viewforum.php?id=13
www.styleforum.net/forums/classic-menswear.5/forum
www.reddit.com/r/NavyBlazer
thecurriculum.net/forum

>READS/BOOKS/ALBUMS
https://pastebin.com/JUHD4Hwu
https://pastebin.com/SMMg3tK9
Quick guide to prep: www.mreero.com/journal/how-to-dress-like-a-prep
Gentleman's Gazzete info on /TIP/: pastebin.com/QrNDDG60
The Preppy Handbook: issuu.com/fiyero109/docs/toph
Nautical clothing guide: epochs.co/features/epochs-guide-to-nautical-clothing?p=nauticalpost
Boat shoe lacing guide: web.archive.org/web/20200926215557/https://blog.sperry.com/stories/style/lacing-guide/
Waxing Barbours: www.saltwaternewengland.com/2019/09/waxing-barbour.html
Dating vintage Brooks:
putthison.com/dating-brooks-brothers-shirts-i-was-cleaning-up-my
Loafer anatomy:
thesecondbutton.com/how-to-talk-about-loafers
Guide to cloths: https://www.permanentstyle.com/the-guide-to-cloth

>Blogs: https://pastebin.com/ZjRtCQNQ
>Brands: https://pastebin.com/Sb54Bsri

Denim edition

[Anonymous No.18069332]

>>18069329
>Instagrams

Prep:
https://www.instagram.com/kjp/
https://www.instagram.com/muffyaldrich
https://www.instagram.com/dixielandtrad/
https://www.instagram.com/sweatbrah/
https://www.instagram.com/josephcrabb/
https://www.instagram.com/wmbrownproject/
https://www.instagram.com/pjhavel/
https://www.instagram.com/seangaleburke/
https://www.instagram.com/howieguja/
https://www.instagram.com/sophieschumacher0/
https://www.instagram.com/carly/
https://www.instagram.com/abbycapalbo/
https://www.instagram.com/jackiegreaney/
https://www.instagram.com/kileyskeff/
https://www.instagram.com/prepfamily.nl/
https://www.instagram.com/happypreppy/
https://www.instagram.com/navybluecardigan

Trad:
https://www.instagram.com/acutestyle/
https://www.instagram.com/tintinfellow/
https://www.instagram.com/andreasweinas/
https://www.instagram.com/thelandlessgentry/
https://www.instagram.com/kleidsam/
https://www.instagram.com/parisian_gentleman/
https://www.instagram.com/eleanoraudet/
https://www.instagram.com/sonyaglyn/
https://www.instagram.com/typicallytrad/
https://www.instagram.com/frontporchlifemn/
https://www.instagram.com/houndstooth_and_herringbone/

Ivy:
https://www.instagram.com/benton.down/
https://www.instagram.com/oxfordclothbuttondown/
https://www.instagram.com/arnoldsteiner/
https://www.instagram.com/took_ivy/
https://www.instagram.com/dick.carroll/
https://www.instagram.com/georgewbush/
https://www.instagram.com/psy3927/
https://www.instagram.com/loafers_etc/
https://www.instagram.com/ivysweatshirt/
https://www.instagram.com/claudiupg/

Could also be spur belt edition

[Anonymous No.18069336]

>>18069332

[Anonymous No.18069414]

once again not reposting from anywhere

[Anonymous No.18069420]

I suspect this is probably bespoke but I’m not sure if that red stitching is some type of branding. Any ideas? That’s a great looking denim jacket.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5OvSHVyti8/

[Anonymous No.18069421]

>>18069420
Iron Heart

[Anonymous No.18069484]

How would you build an outfit around og-107 trousers and a navy baracuta g9?

[Anonymous No.18069511]

>>18069484
>og-107 trousers
loafers, ocbd and sweater?

[Anonymous No.18069517]

>>18069511
I'd got for a heavier shoe at that point, either 3 eye lug moc, a boot, a split toe derby, etc
OCBD is spot on.

[Anonymous No.18069520]

>>18069517
can see that, lug moc good call

[Anonymous No.18069587]

>>18069420
that denim jacket with worsted wool trousers look doesnt really work to me

[Anonymous No.18069591]

>>18069517
>>18069520
lug mocs look hideous. loafers would be better, or something from paraboot

[Anonymous No.18069606]

>>18069591
Good paraboot rec. These look good

[Anonymous No.18069611]

>>18069606
I love how these look on some people but when I tried them, they just felt clunky and ridiculous on me. I wish I could wear them.

[Anonymous No.18069616]

meta post, but whatever
/fa/ is such a dead board that none of the posters are aware of the april fools event

[Anonymous No.18069626]

>>18069616
meh i saw it but wasnt super into it sorry man they arent all big winners

[Anonymous No.18069739]

>>18069616
I'm a /biz/raeli and even I didn't bother. I just didn't have the time

[Anonymous No.18069749]

>>18069336
>posting man crotch
faggot

[Anonymous No.18069785]

Ivy league girls are whores
Mediocre looks but somehow 100 plus body count

[Anonymous No.18069856]

where to get youth size shirts?

[Anonymous No.18069873]

Blue Barn Jacket from J Crew is out of stock and doesn't ship to bongland anyway. Alternatives? I've had a look vintage/secondhand but its all just either xs and xl or really bad condition.

[Anonymous No.18070053]

>>18069329
What shoes go well with chinos for a casual look?

[Anonymous No.18070069]

>>18069611
Most Paraboot styles look quite good on their own as objects but look ridiculous when worn as shoes. I always chuckle when I see someone wearing Paraboot Michaels. They make you look like a faggy elf.

[Anonymous No.18070073]

>>18070069
>I always chuckle when I see someone wearing Paraboot Michaels. They make you look like a faggy elf.
Can confirm. I bought a pair recently. Sold them a few weeks later. Meme shoes.
Avignon are cool though.

[Anonymous No.18070094]

>>18069591
>lug mocs
>hideous
0% taste.

[Anonymous No.18070139]

>>18069332
>wearing light blue jeans ever.
Trad Ivy/old money would never be seen wearing working class pants.

[Anonymous No.18070192]

>>18070139
lol good thing you don't have to worry

[Anonymous No.18070231]

are green pants /tip/ ?

[Anonymous No.18070251]

>>18070053
OK I'll take the bait... This is the most basic questions on the thread. Boat/deck shoes, loafers.

[Anonymous No.18070253]

>>18070139
Absolute fuckwit take.

[Anonymous No.18070317]

>>18070251
hmm, ok thanks, what do you think of the guys wearing sneakers in the pic? do they work too?

[Anonymous No.18070323]

>>18070317
No

[Anonymous No.18070343]

>>18070053
>>18070317
no, not /tip/

[Anonymous No.18070365]

>>18070317
if you're gonna play tennis, yes

[Anonymous No.18070459]

>>18070139
taking 5 seconds to google "what is ivy style" would benefit u greatly

[Anonymous No.18070535]

>>18070323
>>18070343
>>18070365
damn, i think it looks decent tho, i guess its just not /tip/

[Anonymous No.18070538]

Double-layering knit.
Need it or kee it?

[Anonymous No.18070694]

does a sweater like this require a collared shirt? i felt like i was missing a bit of layering in it today

[Anonymous No.18070749]

>>18070694
Why do you look so soft and non masculine

[Anonymous No.18070765]

>>18070749
retard

[Anonymous No.18070789]

>>18070694
as with everything, it's the occasion. should you have had another layer on? what were you doing and where were you going, etc. walking the dog? no collar is fine. grabbing beer, no collar. bbq, no collar. going to bar, maybe a collar. these are not rules, just examples

[Anonymous No.18070805]

>>18070694
ivy style pretty much always has a shirt underneath. sweater alone feels more european.
personally unless its cashmere i dont even like the feeling of wool directly on the skin anyways

[Anonymous No.18070836]

>>18069336
Sid? .. the belt?

[Anonymous No.18070844]

>>18070805
trad =/= ivy

[Anonymous No.18070846]

>>18070844
different generations of the same thing semantics-kun

[Anonymous No.18070902]

>>18070459
>in 1962

[Anonymous No.18071171]

>>18070459
what's the deal with the short trousers?

[Anonymous No.18071178]

Whats the difference between /tip/ and Business Casual?
Which one would picrel be?

[Anonymous No.18071230]

>>18071178
there's nothing casual about a tie you imbecile. do you people ever go outside?

[Anonymous No.18071402]

Why aren't there tshirts made of oxford cloth

[Anonymous No.18071447]

>>18069329
does brand of polo matter
i feel like redditors will most certainly say it matters but the average person doesnt give a fuck

[Anonymous No.18071449]

>>18071447
Now try in English pajeet

[Anonymous No.18071450]

>>18071449
what brand is that im confuzzed

[Anonymous No.18071455]

>>18070459
Is the movie American Graffiti an example of ivy style? These guys look like they only listen to buddy holly

[Anonymous No.18071457]

>>18070053
What new balanced are those?

[Anonymous No.18071474]

>>18070053
What new balances are those?

[Anonymous No.18071629]

>>18071449
that was a pretty normqp, easily comprehensible informal sentence maybe ur the esl

[Anonymous No.18071631]

>>18071629
see >>18071449

[Anonymous No.18071746]

>>18069329
Is Prep just a name for Trad/Ivy during summer?

[Anonymous No.18071954]

Hard to find a jacket which is not a sport jacket and suitable in spring/summer. Just waiting until Drake’s drops something interesting which makes me feel inspired at this point.
>suede blouson
too much of a poorfag
>g4/g9
plebswear and poly blends
>chore
gay and scruffy larp, just wear a sport jacket
>denim jacket
not particularly elegant

[Anonymous No.18071972]

>>18071954
I like my dunhill bluoson
g9 always looks good

[Anonymous No.18071979]

>>18071954
>spring/summer
you really need a harrington

[Anonymous No.18071994]

>>18071954
just buy the g9

[Anonymous No.18072067]

[Anonymous No.18072070]

[Anonymous No.18072073]

[Anonymous No.18072075]

eww the chubby reddit faggot is back

[Anonymous No.18072078]

[Anonymous No.18072079]

[Anonymous No.18072082]

[Anonymous No.18072085]

[Anonymous No.18072086]

>>18072067
where'd you get that bed frame?

[Anonymous No.18072092]

>>18072086
>you
Silly newfag

[Anonymous No.18072102]

Fine, I'll take the bait:

>>18072067
Pants are too short and too slip, sweater has swallowed the collar of the shirt like a foreskin, coat is gaudy

>>18072070
Cross from loose, flowy, relaxed etc to shapeless. Coat proportions make his legs look stumpy. Pedo mustache.

>>18072073
Walk like Lennon, should be shot like Lennon. No idea what the fuck is going on here, I'll concede the chinos may be decent.

>>18072078
Dipshit heard white socks were preppy so he slapped on athletic socks. Shirt is too wrinkly, look at the placket. Boat shoes/ranger mocs don't work if you're wearing a bowtie. No comment on that fucking face.

>>18072079
Shirt sleeves are too long or the jacket sleeves are too short. Jacket too formal for the rest of the fit, would look better with cord/moleskin/tweed or even plain cotton. Iron your shirt.

>>18072082
Jacket sleeves too long, zero cuff showing. Bit loafers don't match a suit.


>>18072085
Absolutely bland and lifeless, at least the other fuck ups tried something. Pants are wrinkled. Do these people not understand what an iron or dry cleaner are? Dork ass hat, dork ass glasses. Decent jaw line, could do way better with a little more effort.

[Anonymous No.18072110]

>>18072102
and worst of all: (You)
talking shit with no fit + reddit spacing.
whew

[Anonymous No.18072127]

>>18071954
i dont know what "plebswear" is supposed to mean, i dont see poor people wearing harringtons, and there are plenty of pure cotton ones out there

[Anonymous No.18072138]

>>18072067
Pants too slim for a bulky jacket, especially with peak lapels.
>>18072070
Pant and jacket shades clash, otherwise would be a solid Wes Anderson core fit i guess.
>>18072073
So quirky xD
>>18072078
Button is cringe and the actual blazer buttons make it look cheap. Camp mocs are fall, nantucket reds are summer, so swap them for boat shoes or loafers. White socks are classic but the big mass market logo is kinda cringe. The original "white socks" were off-white wool.
>>18072079
Fine, but the wrinkly shirt without a tie feels out of place with a buttoned jacket.
>>18072085
Very classic, best one you posted. Nitpick, but the blue shirt makes it look a little too business-like. If im wearing a motif belt i always reach for a shirt with stripes or a more casual color or weave.

[Anonymous No.18072223]

>>18072138
>Very classic, best one you posted

How? It's not bad but it's boring as shit, looks like something a bank teller would wear. Everything fits fine but there's an absolute void of charisma/personality.
I'm not saying go batshit like Bald Doug, but don't be bland.

[Anonymous No.18072382]

>>18072223
Bank tellers dont normally wear baseball caps and motif belts so i dont agree with you on that.
But i also dont think looking boring in that way is even that bad. Nothing wrong with wearing grey trousers and a plain shirt casually every once and awhile. He comes off like a normal, approachable, young guy.

[Anonymous No.18072427]

>>18069606
how do i identify quality leather shoes? all i know is that the leather should be stiff and there should be stitching at the bottom like in your pic
anything else?

[Anonymous No.18072455]

>>18072427
you sound clueless
read archive

[Anonymous No.18072463]

>>18072427
Corrected grain leather is sprayed with some sort of essentially plastic coating to give it a high shine and usually it is stated if they are corrected grain so what you want is full grain leather.

[Anonymous No.18072467]

>>18069606
I had these but goddamn they were just a tad too small and had to let them go

[Anonymous No.18072476]

>>18072463
>full grain leather.
how do i see that?
>>18072455
sure, where?

[Anonymous No.18072602]

>>18071230
hell no

[Anonymous No.18072603]

men, whats stopping you from looking like this?

[Anonymous No.18072632]

>>18072476
>>18072476
You don't. You won't just stumble upon good quality leather by accident. Companies will usually state the kind of leather they are using and sometimes the tannery it comes from, otherwise it's just generic leatherslop, and outside the big leather shoe brands there aren't really any alternatives that aren't niche brands that have like a 6 month waiting list or cost thousands of dollars.
Now if you just want something that won't disintegrate within months mostly check the construction of the shoe

[Anonymous No.18072643]

>>18072476
Well as far as I know if it isn’t corrected grain or ”genuine leather” or some other weird shit it is full grain so it would be easier just to avoid corrected grain. Cheaper brands like GH Bass, Sperry, Sebago, Cole Haan etc. use corrected grain and more expensive brands like John Lobb, Edward Green, JM Weston, Carmina etc. definitely don’t use corrected grain. So if it’s cheap let’s say under 300 € be wary and look if it says that it’s corrected grain and ask if it does not say. They also have this really high shine which can be hard to tell especially from just pictures. Also brands like Jay Butler sell loafers for under 300$ and they say that their shoes are in fact full grain so you know not everything under 300€ is shit but just be wary and maybe ask around online or ask the vendor.

[Anonymous No.18072649]

>>18072643
ty bro
>>18072603
where to cop shoes?

[Anonymous No.18072669]

>>18072603
I am too poor to buy new clothes.

[Anonymous No.18072806]

>>18072476
>spoonfeed me
>>18072603
looks like shit desu

[Anonymous No.18072811]

>>18072806
fuck off with the cool club shit, answer or don't bother replying

>>18072476
>>/fa/?task=search2&ghost=false&search_text=%2Ftip%2F+-+Trad+Ivy+Prep+General&search_subject=&search_username=&search_tripcode=&search_email=&search_filename=&search_datefrom=&search_dateto=&search_media_hash=&search_op=op&search_del=dontcare&search_int=dontcare&search_ord=new&search_capcode=all&search_res=op

[Anonymous No.18072833]

>>18072811
Nahwe hate newfags, sorry

[Anonymous No.18072849]

>>18072811
what so awful about a cool club. people should aspire to join a cool club. they should think, ooh i want to be as knowledgeable and put-together as them. theres no fun in being given free unlimited access to the castle grounds from the beginning

[Anonymous No.18072946]

>>18071954
Embrace the field jacket

[Anonymous No.18072959]

Question for those who wear glasses. Thoughts on clear acetate glasses frames? Elegant and barely visible or too much like lab goggles? Are my only options a panto shape in either a tortoise/black acetate or steel frame if I want a /tip/ friendly option?

[Anonymous No.18073072]

>>18072849
>theres no fun in being given free unlimited access
it's free already. telling someone where to look =/= spoonfeeding

>>18072833
get your head out of your ass

[Anonymous No.18073141]

>>18072669
those arent new they're from the 40's or so :^)
surely you can afford what people 80 years ago wore right

[Anonymous No.18073158]

helsinki looks

[Anonymous No.18073167]

>>18073158

[Anonymous No.18073169]

>>18073167

[Anonymous No.18073182]

>>18072079
I love this style, I wear it to concerts and operas. However I cannot stand wearing rubber sole, I only wear leather. Rubber is pleb af.
Pretty hard finding decent jackets in this pattern outside thrift shops though.
I bought a very vintage one in a thrift shop in Germany and got it fitted, my favorite jacket.

[Anonymous No.18073425]

How much shirt cuff should you see when wearing a blazer? I've got a blazer that fits me perfectly otherwise but I'm worried the sleeves may be too short.

[Anonymous No.18073431]

>>18073425
1" max

[Anonymous No.18073445]

>>18071746
Nah prep makes me think autumn: bean boots, khakis, waxed jackets, down vests, sweaters, sweaters, and sweaters

[Anonymous No.18073458]

>>18073425


https://www.gentlemansgazette.com/sleeve-length-suits-shirts-jackets/

Scroll down, depends on taste basically. British often show no cuff, Americans between 1cm and 1 inch, with 1 inch being the upper acceptable limit. It's basically a matter of personal taste.

>>18073182
I don't disagree on the leather sole preference but I think he's wearing Paraboot Michaels or Heschung Thuyas. They're designed to be worn under harsh conditions and a leather sole wouldn't make sense, it also wouldn't really fit the profile of the shoe. You need a chunky sole to balance the rest of it out.

[Anonymous No.18073487]

>>18073445
>>18071746
retards lol

[Anonymous No.18073521]

[Anonymous No.18073587]

>>18073487
I know what preppy is- I grew up literally twenty minutes from Exeter- I'm just saying preppy is more associated with autumn than summer: duck hunting, ll bean, plaid, crew/head of the charles, navy/olive/earth tones, etc

[Anonymous No.18073667]

>>18072603
I want to get suspenders like this with leather buttons instead of clutches but I saw some reviews on the cheap ones where they showed that the leather colored off on the shirts, which I find is crazy. Can anyone recommend a place for good suspenders?

[Anonymous No.18073669]

>>18073521
I really like that! The fit on the trousers looks perfect. The tie is cool. Did you trie and see if it looks better with a slightly broader knot? Full Windsor for example. Getting slight Gordon Gecko vibes but I don't mind that. How about a small patterned handkerchief to go with the big patterned tie? S. picrel.

[Anonymous No.18073971]

Why are polos allowed, but short sleeved button shirts not?

[Anonymous No.18073974]

>>18073971
One is for sports the other isn't

[Anonymous No.18073978]

>>18073974
What if it is hot af? Am I required to just roll up the sleeves, and that is it?

[Anonymous No.18073991]

if you're gonna post fit pits at least take better pics please I can barely see anything through the upscaled zoom processing.

[Anonymous No.18074022]

>>18073978
Yes. For some reason sleeve rolling looks way better than short sleeves

[Anonymous No.18074051]

Are black oxfords a meme at this point for someone who doesn’t wear suits a whole lot? I want some good shoes to wear with suits at funerals, weddings, and interviews but would also like to get office use out of them if possible. I think black oxfords would be too formal for shirt + trousers + odd jacket? So is there a good alternative? I already have loafers and chukkas but they never seem dressed up enough for suits at occasions. There’s also something I dislike about black derbies so I’m not sure about that.

[Anonymous No.18074072]

>>18074051
>Are black oxfords a meme at
Mental illness post
>>18073978
Wear whatever you want. Short sleeve shirts just look kinda goofy but for hot weather the short sleeve madras shirt is a classic.

[Anonymous No.18074106]

I have a question

Everyday office wear in winter, I just wear a shirt + chinos or cords (I want to buy flannels for next season) and throw a sweater on top, either a crew neck or a quarter zip. I hate v-necks.

But what happens in summer?
I hate going with just a shirt on, it looks cheap to not put anything else on it. But a sportcoat would be too formal and weird.

Just ditch the shirts and wear polo shirts?

[Anonymous No.18074111]

>>18074106
These questions are so bizarre. is this your first season working or wearing shirts ? What did you wear before ?

[Anonymous No.18074113]

>>18074106
If your office is too casual for a jacket, you can easily get away with an oxford with rolled sleeves

[Anonymous No.18074127]

>>18074111
No I always wore a shirt and chinos in summer but I was fat so I didn't care how it looked

[Anonymous No.18074155]

>>18074106
Just embrace the sport coat look at Larry David wearing one with a sweatshirt. Buy one that’s cotton, unlined and unstructured so it’s more casual and when worn with all the buttons open it just kind of looks like a cardigan or whatever blouson.

[Anonymous No.18074160]

>>18074111
Also I should say, my problem with wearing shirts without anything covering them up is that I sit at a desk most of the day and being tucked in means it becomes a wrinkled crumpled mess by the end of the day and looks really sloppy.

Maybe that's less of an issue now that I'm not fat.
Maybe I was just buying the wrong kind of shirt and should spend more for quality ones.

[Anonymous No.18074182]

>>18074155
Looks like a glorified hobo

[Anonymous No.18074392]

>>18074160
just get a light cardigan or normal sweater you fucking man-child. jesus christ.

[Anonymous No.18074414]

>>18072811
Search "what makes good leather shoes", theres a video on youtube comparing 400 dollar oxfords vs 1500 dollar oxfords. He goes into detail on what makes them that price.

[Anonymous No.18074419]

Why don't people wear bowties outside of black tie? The only people i've seen pull it off is the old school nationalist black muslim guys.

[Anonymous No.18074429]

>>18074419
Wear sport coat + sweater + bow tie for that classy professor look.
I have seen some people wearing those.

[Anonymous No.18074453]

>>18074429
Speaking as a PhD candidate, I’ve never seen it.

[Anonymous No.18074479]

>>18074419
Because it looks silly, a regular tie looks like a big long cock, strong masculine. While the cucked bowtie looks like a pair of small eunuch testicles.
It only looks good in 70+ year olds

[Anonymous No.18074480]

>>18074453
What are you doing your PHD in? Also, why?

[Anonymous No.18074487]

>>18074480
Labor negotiations. Perhaps it is because I’m usually around business/public policy types all the time. More likely it’s because >we are dead tired and dress business casual or nice jeans and a button up/polo because everyone is busy as hell. When we dress up, we wear suits. On campus, we look like anyone else.

[Anonymous No.18074495]

>>18074487
For reference, I’m wearing a linen button up shirt by Tommy Bahama I got for 25 bucks on sale. Lucky Brand straight fit jeans I got for 65 bucks on sale. Viberg 2040s which are the most comfortable shoes I’ve ever owned for 1050.

I look like most other faculty, apart from my footwear. It’s a bunch of smart jocks and preppy kids. I actually came to this board to see where I could find Vichy 96 hour deodorant that I got earlier this year when I went overseas and stumbled across this thread. I’ve never been here before, so the title amused me and I wondered if I fit in with the stereotype.

[Anonymous No.18074503]

Wait you guys have jobs ?

[Anonymous No.18074514]

>>18074503
I dont. I am a neet who gets his social interactions from here

[Anonymous No.18074534]

>>18074414
i think you replied to the wrong anon?

[Anonymous No.18074563]

Love Kamakura. Such insane deals buying from their Japan site, and they're 10/10 for everything being an exact fit off the rack. I'm close to making a wardrobe that's near entirely kamakura at this point.

[Anonymous No.18074575]

>>18074563
Its a good deal even with JP shipping?
When ive bought from Yahoo JP it usually ends up being like $50 with all the fees.

[Anonymous No.18074588]

>>18074575
You use a proxy shipper. You end up paying only about ~60% even with the fees, which are fairly small for something like clothing anyhow. I've used Japanrabbit mostly.

[Anonymous No.18074606]

>>18074419
Looks like shit, desu

[Anonymous No.18074700]

>>18074419
theres a reason tucker carlson dropped the bowtie

[Anonymous No.18074702]

>>18074563
Shirt :l
Shirt Japan :0000

[Anonymous No.18074719]

>>18074419
It has the fedora effect. Geeks took a good thing and made it effeminate. I like bow-ties but would only wear it with a tux

[Anonymous No.18074733]

>>18074702
correct

[Anonymous No.18074736]

>>18074106
The trick is to get a sport coat then doesn't "read" formal.
I can't entirely explain it but cotton, linen, Madras, corduroy, certain types of really heavy tweeds don't come across as formal to the average person. So you can slap a linen sport coat on, and it won't be formal or weird. You'll have a layer, people won't think you're over dressed.

[Anonymous No.18074745]

>>18074563
I like the quality of Kamakura shirts but there's something with the cut of the arm holes that doesn't work for me. Feels tight in the shoulders, this isn't the slim model either.

In comparison, I have the trim fit from J Press and it's absolutely perfect. I prefer the more classic fit overall but their trim shirts are great.

[Anonymous No.18074890]

>>18069785
that's all girls though

[Anonymous No.18074894]

>>18073521
this is great.

[Anonymous No.18075001]

>>18072603
You're a downie if you leave a button-down collar unbuttoned

[Anonymous No.18075005]

>>18074745
I agree, Kamakura shirts just aren't cut generously enough to be truly comfortable

[Anonymous No.18075134]

>>18075001
what if its hot outside

[Anonymous No.18075212]

>>18075134
The collar. How does the buttons on the collar do anything if it’s hot?

[Anonymous No.18075356]

Do I drop 5 hundo on a baracuta racing green g9

[Anonymous No.18075365]

>>18075356
>polyshit
Nah. Not even because it’s polyshit, but because it looks like plebswear and indistinguishable to normies. I think if you are buying baracuta, then either buy a different coat they sell, a g4, or really just any seasonal jacket with an interesting texture or fabric to not be so plebby. For example, they sell jackets which are an interesting melton wool or tweed during the winter, and for the summer maybe a linen or chambray jacket instead. Even the suede g9s are infinitely less plebwear.

[Anonymous No.18075373]

>>18075365
post wardobe

[Anonymous No.18075377]

>>18075365
you talk like a weird faggot

[Anonymous No.18075392]

>>18075377
cope harder or post fit
>>18075373
hurt your feelings? they are most certainly overpriced plebswear in the standard colour cotton/poly blends

[Anonymous No.18075395]

>>18069414
today

what are (YOU) wearing today fa

[Anonymous No.18075414]

>>18075392
theres nothing wrong with a regular cotton twill jacket, its an ivy classic
i bet you think youre too fancy for jeans and vests too
this is how i dress >>18075395 >>18069414 wheres your fit

[Anonymous No.18075455]

>>18069414
>once again not reposting from anywhere

[Anonymous No.18075458]

[Anonymous No.18075461]

[Anonymous No.18075465]

[Anonymous No.18075468]

>>18075455
yea i specified that because this spammer is reposting a bunch of pics from a reddit where i also sometimes post

[Anonymous No.18075469]

>>18075461
>>18075458
>>18075465

This is what you fuckers actually look like in the wild BTW. I know at least some of you are posting on plebbit, with fits of this caliber I get why no one posts themselves here and instead has to go begging for updoots.

[Anonymous No.18075470]

>>18075414
There’s nothing wrong with them. They’re just very boring and are a plebswear staple too. You are a seething poorfag. I have no problem with jeans or vests but it helps your world view to pretend otherwise. The insecurity and projection is insane. I’m not even wealthy but it’s still plebswear.

[Anonymous No.18075479]

>>18075470
>Not wealthy
>Calls other people plebs

With posts like this I can understand why you're not wealthy.

[Anonymous No.18075483]

>>18075469
so what do you look like

[Anonymous No.18075494]

>>18075479
Even your response is smug when finding someone isn’t wealthy. You are so insecure it’s insane. It’s still plebswear and it doesn’t matter who says it. There’s also the obvious that plebswear is an aesthetic and it definitely has more lower class and lower wealth associations. Next you’re going to tell me I can’t be critical of a certain type of food unless I’m a professional chef? Retard.

[Anonymous No.18075497]

>>18075494
wiped the fuck out of that plebswear apologist lmao

[Anonymous No.18075520]

>>18075458
Doug Tier freak

[Anonymous No.18075540]

>>18075494
>Only lower class PLEBS would wear jeans because they're PLEBWEAR don't you understand how much better my taste is than those PLEBS?

[Anonymous No.18075544]

>>18075494
>My taste is so much better than that lower class PLEBSHIT
>No I can't afford anything better and I'm not in an economic bracket to remedy that
>No I wouldn't have anywhere to wear the superior items/brands to either
>Doesn't matter though, my taste is better than those PLEBS

[Anonymous No.18075546]

>>18075494
>Look at these impoverish faggots with their PLEB aesthetic

[Anonymous No.18075552]

Is a rugby shirt over a buttondown a viable combo, or do I look retarded?

[Anonymous No.18075555]

>>18075540
>>18075544
>>18075546
>Ivy/prep means anything people in the 60s wore at college regardless if it looks like shit
Mental illness

[Anonymous No.18075561]

>>18075552
your fit isnt quite right but its definitely something thats done
personally im not very into it, it feels like youre trying to make rugbies into a cold weather layer, when they should stick to spring/fall

[Anonymous No.18075646]

>>18071954
>>18075365
>>18075392
>>18075470
>>18075494
>>18075494
>>18075497
Post wardrobe or shut up lmao. Cute samefagging btw.
>>18074487
Sounds like a meme field to get a doctorate in, what do you even publish/research?
>>18075455
Do you not know what reposting means?

[Anonymous No.18075884]

That plebswear apologist is absolutely seething lmao, probably one of my greatest moments destroying that chump. It's even better when there are dozens of us and the schizo poster thinks all posts are mine. Another classic projection from a samefagger thinking everyone else does too.

[Anonymous No.18075885]

>>18075646
wardrobe or shut up lmao

[Anonymous No.18075913]

>>18075884
Most sane /tip/ poster

[Anonymous No.18075923]

>>18075884
>no screencap

[Anonymous No.18075928]

>>18074702
Yes.

>>18074745
>>18075005

It depends what shirts you're buying. Their Vintage Ivy line and Tokyo classic fits are exact fits for me. New York classic is made for guys that are 6' tall, so its a no way from me, so is anything slim fit. But I understand, their clothing off the rack seems tailored to a very specific body shape, and the only tailoring options they offer on their site are sleeve alterations, or made to measure if you manage to catch their trunk show. I've tried J.press and it felt too sloppy, I had one of their 3 button rolled blazers adjusted because of it. Comparatively, the only thing from Kamakura I've had tailored has been the hem on their 5 pocket pants and jeans, which on their site they sell at only ONE hem which is 32, meaning if you're taller than 5'10", you can't extend that shit and you just can't buy their pants. Its a brand made for stocky manlets(their pants are all roomy), and I'm unaware of any other brand that does this. If you find kamakura clothing uncomfortable, I'd bet money that you're taller than 5'9".

[Anonymous No.18075933]

>>18075928
>New York classic is made for guys that are 6' tall
what does that mean? its cut long? doesnt seem like a problem as long as you tuck

[Anonymous No.18075938]

>>18075933
There are many differences in fit. If you're taller you don't literally just have extra inches lengthening your torso, it affects the yoke of the shirt, sleeve length, placket length (their vintage Ivy and tokyo classic will not have a long enough buttons on the placket for tall guys to tuck), and the most important one of all is that as you're purchasing shirts by collar size and sleeve length, that only roughly takes into consideration the chest and waist width of the person. A taller person will have around the same collar size as a shorter person, but with entirely different chest and waist width on the shirt. This is how someone who is a manlet with a normal 15.5/16 collar, will feel like older brooks brothers or J press shirts are huge and sloppy, while a taller person will have a nice fit. As Kamakura is based in Japan, their main market is manlets and its manlet proportioned.
I hope this was informative.

[Anonymous No.18075972]

>>18075928
>If you find kamakura clothing uncomfortable, I'd bet money that you're taller than 5'9"


You'd win that bet. I'm 6'3, but I have a long torso, 32 inch inseam actually works for me and gives me a quarter break. I've found that in order to balance my proportions everything needs to be high rise for trousers, jeans (plebshit now apparently?), even shorts.

I think said torso dimensions also fucks me with how their OCBDs are cut. I'm not fat, I'm 190lbs, but their looser fit feels constricting in the shoulder/armhole region.

Meanwhile J Press, O'Connells and Mercer fit like a dream.

[Anonymous No.18076014]

What size should I get sperry topsiders?
I’m a 9.5D on a brannock. Surely tip has experience here!

[Anonymous No.18076044]

>>18075884
Is this supposed to be funny? Just plain old bad b8

[Anonymous No.18076046]

>>18076014
i have wide feet so i got a half size up and they fit just right with the laces tightened
if you have normal or narrow feet regular size will probably be fine

[Anonymous No.18076072]

>>18076046
I’ve never owned boat shoes but I feel like they are going to fit similarly to loafers because I intend to wear them sockless. With loafers I always have to size down 1/2 because my heels slip. Alot of times my heels slip even 1/2 down with loafers. So idk. I think if I go tts I will surely get heel slip. Unless they run narrow. You don’t get heel slip going up 1/2 a size? Are the laces functional on sperrys? I have some camp mocs where the laces aren’t even functional.

[Anonymous No.18076084]

Any tips on being /tip/ in shitty weather (rain and/or snow)?
Obviously rubber soles and wool socks are needed
What kind of shoes and boots should I get? Maintaining leather with all the moisture and salt is getting old.
What alternatives to Barbour jackets are there? I don't like having to layer, it's so hot inside everywhere that I need to drop any sweaters and cardigans along with the jacket.
Cheers.

[Anonymous No.18076131]

>>18075646
Nothing you'd bother reading, but I got to go to Congress last year. I went overseas earlier this year. I've presented at several global conferences, which were total jokes but it was fun. Next time I'm presenting it'll be my own thing with no fucking niggers attached to my wagon train, thank Christ.

[Anonymous No.18076165]

>>18076131
>labor statistics
Ah if it's stats stuff it makes more sense.
Conferences are always fun, watching tenured profs tie one on at the hotel bar is hilarious.
It's a shame that sharing publications on 4chan would result in being doxxed.

[Anonymous No.18076168]

>>18076072
Laces are relatively functional, it's not sneaker tier tightening but they can help a bit. I recommend TTS with Sperrys, but let me also say that I'm a 9.5 and I've fit into 9s and 10s comfortably, leaning towards it being slightly bigger feeling a bit better than smaller.

If you've never owned boat shoes before, get ready for the ankle blisters when you're breaking them in.

[Anonymous No.18076234]

>>18076168
>get ready for the ankle blisters
Fuck. I think I’ll wear them with thin socks until they’re broken in.

[Anonymous No.18076300]

>>18076234
Yeah I've done this, but I've found it hard to find ankle socks that actually don't show with how low cut boat shoes can be. Usually I just rotate a new pair in during spring and wear them with dress socks and long pants until they're broken in / my ankles are calloused again.

Sperrys with socks are usually a faux pas rule, but having gone to prep school and LAC, plenty of people do it during spring and fall. Long pants and Sperrys without socks is still the best for the in between seasons but

[Anonymous No.18076337]

>>18076084
Try LL Bean, they've got a good selection of boots and jackets for the winter

[Anonymous No.18076452]

Ended up going with a Navy g4 instead I found slightly used for significantly cheaper. I didn't realize asking about a classic harrington was going to cause the schizos to come out of the woodwork.

>>18074453
As someone who just defended their thesis on friday, I see this look relatively often on campus. Certainly often enough that it doesn't stand out at all.

[Anonymous No.18076468]

Any recommendations for glasses?

[Anonymous No.18076598]

>>18076452
Things that trigger schizos here:
>Polyester
>Denim
>Doug
>Baldfag
>Also everything else

[Anonymous No.18076607]

>>18076337
I have been considering some bean boots for snow and rain despite finding them somewhat goofy and having trouble finding any in Europe.
Are they slippery on ice?

[Anonymous No.18076629]

Can I wear athletic socks with loafers tip?

[Anonymous No.18076665]

>>18076629
Please don't. Especially not white socks

[Anonymous No.18076796]

>>18076665
white socks with loafers is literally THE ivy look

[Anonymous No.18076834]

>>18076468
oliver peoples

[Anonymous No.18076839]

>>18076452
Congrats anon! What in?

[Anonymous No.18076863]

>>18075972
Yeah exactly this, the shirts are tight across my big broad beautiful shoulders.

[Anonymous No.18076923]

>>18076863
yes kamakura fits funky over 6'

[Anonymous No.18076937]

>>18076665

[Anonymous No.18076978]

>>18076937
The ad shows something therefore it's good

[Anonymous No.18076990]

>>18076923
In retrospect, this should have been fucking obvious to me. As another anon pointed out, it's a Japanese brand. I'm nearly a foot taller than the average Asian man, broader too. Of course OCBDs served up to rich, well nourished WASPs like J Press, O'Connells, etc are going to fit better for me.

If you're under 5'10 and slim, I can see Kamakura being the absolute best OCBD you're ever going to wear.

[Anonymous No.18076993]

>>18076978
I reflexively want to call you a contrarian, close minded asshole but I must begrudgingly concede you've touched on something.

We can't take everything shown in Take Ivy as a Bible that must be followed exactly 60 years later. Styles and tastes do change somewhat. White socks may have been great in the 60s, just like beating your wife and dumping hot loads in your secretary. It was a different, better time. Sadly white socks look fucking dorky as shit today, the average person isn't going to care that you have a printout of page 16 from Take Ivy proving that's the "right" way to do things.

[Anonymous No.18077028]

>>18076993
>, the average person isn't going to care that you have a printout of page 16 from Take Ivy proving that's the "right" way to do things.
They might. And it isn't the wildest thing to wear, especially if you're on the west coast where all the crazy fashion memes happen.

[Anonymous No.18077033]

>>18071474
looks like basic 574's

[Anonymous No.18077100]

>>18076796
You're thinking of cream colored socks

[Anonymous No.18077104]

>>18076839
Computer science, specifically computer vision. I got very lucky that I entered the market right when the work of others was making my degree seem way more valuable

[Anonymous No.18077201]

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[Anonymous No.18077385]

>>18076629
I wear white athletic socks with loafers all the time.

[Anonymous No.18077535]

>the people defending plebswear are comp sci students
pottery, computer vision but no ability to see with their own eyes

[Anonymous No.18077676]

>>18077535
I'm the anon who was interviewing for professorships at Princeton, Columbia, and Yale. I think your autistic hang-up about "plebswear" betrays your lack of background. The fact you worry about things like that means you've simply adopted the fashion

[Anonymous No.18077681]

>>18077535
go away troll

[Anonymous No.18077686]

>>18077681
>>18077676
Post fit.

[Anonymous No.18077687]

>>18077676
>I think your autistic hang-up about "plebswear" betrays your lack of background.

[Anonymous No.18077689]

>>18077686
still waiting on you to post wardrobe

[Anonymous No.18077694]

>>18077686
i think i remember that anon posting fits before, and someone else posted one for you to admire in this very thread, yet you still havent posted any pictures
curious

[Anonymous No.18077706]

>>18077694
>>18077689
Still samefagging? Your fits are bad and harringtons are still plebswear, just like the grass is green and the sky is blue.

[Anonymous No.18077714]

>>18077706
I'll kiss your neck, big man. don't test me

[Anonymous No.18077724]

[Anonymous No.18077841]

>>18077724
this does't prove anything when you can just edit the text on a webpage. only a samefagger would try to dispute it. self own.

[Anonymous No.18077889]

About to buy a hopsack quarter lined custom 3 roll 2 (3/2) navy blazer with a center hook vent, semi-boxy fit, natural shoulders, 2 button sleeve, the works from Proper Cloth (sadly darts are present, although I don't mind too bad as I'm on the skinner side). This will be for all year round use, to wear with khakis in the summer and grey flannels in the winter. Can I get some advice regarding the most trad details here? I wish they offered patch breast pocket with flap pockets but that's sadly not an option. Out of these given ones, what's the most "trad"? Thanks :)

[Anonymous No.18077920]

>>18077889
>He fell for the brass button meme

[Anonymous No.18077946]

>>18077920
To some, a little tacky perhaps, but I really like them. They really pop with grey flannels.

[Anonymous No.18077972]

>>18077676
probably the most embarrassing post in this thread which is really saying something

[Anonymous No.18077996]

>>18077676
Omg are you The Professor? That's crazy

[Anonymous No.18078039]

[Anonymous No.18078077]

enjoying feeling spring finally begin

>>18078039
lmao

[Anonymous No.18078125]

>>18078039
kek. this edit always goes hard

[Anonymous No.18078156]

>>18071447
not if 100% cotton
only really matter when you mix cotton with flax/linen/wool
if you have a rl polo store near you go check out their purple label polos

[Anonymous No.18078183]

>>18078039
lmao

[Anonymous No.18078229]

>>18077889
I went with Option 1 once I remembered to take a loot at this picture from Esquire magazine circa 1962. Not to mention this is what J. Press and O'Connells current lines consist of. Take a look at the bottom of the first paragraph and top of second in picrel. I also ordered a yellow oxford cloth button down, I just need to work on my tan a bit before I can wear it, haha.

[Anonymous No.18078242]

My posts which have taken ten seconds to write have caused so much seethe that memes are being made, it’s flattering. How nantucket red is your face right now?

[Anonymous No.18078266]

I’m building a wardrobe and I really want to buy some navy clothing but I’m not sure what. I find the colour to look very corporate. I recently bought a charcoal twill suit because I thought and others thought it looked much better on me. I love navy suits on others and even navy blazers when I’ve tried some but they just don’t look particularly attractive on me. I feel like I’m going to end up building a wardrobe which is filled with grays. I thought navy was supposed to be a better color for pale skin and medium brown hair but apparently not? Is there anything else other than a navy blazer which looks particularly good in navy? For example, now that I have a charcoal twill suit I feel slightly reluctant to purchase a navy twill suit but I’m not sure what type of fabrics or items look extremely good in a navy or midnight color.
>>18078229
Trying to have something like this.

[Anonymous No.18078276]

A colleague's gf works at Yoox so I got this tie at a nice discount. Do you like it?
It looked redder online, while it's like pumpkin orange irl. I still like it quite a bit, might be my favourite tie.

[Anonymous No.18078312]

>>18078276
looks great

[Anonymous No.18078394]

>>18078276
that's really nice

[Anonymous No.18078487]

>mom said she hated my navy blazer + grey flannels combo
the bar is this low, I knew I should have bought a more interesting tweed jacket

[Anonymous No.18078501]

>>18078487
>Mom
Move out and get a job Doug

[Anonymous No.18078637]

>>18078242
>How nantucket red is your face right now?
Stealing this.

[Anonymous No.18078641]

>>18078276
Nice :)

[Anonymous No.18079038]

I want to drop some big bucks on a nice tie (I only own cheaper ties which I rarely wear anyway) but as nice and versatile as navy grenadine is, I wish I could find something a little more interesting whilst still being versatile.

[Anonymous No.18079132]

>>18079038
I wouldn't buy a new tie unless it was a really really unique design. My entire collection of awesome ties save one is thrifted. I've got tons of PRL, Brooks, etc, I even have a beautiful Fendi tie that is basically my go to maroon and navy striped tie. I might take a pic of it later. All gotten for pennies on the dollar.

[Anonymous No.18079142]

[Anonymous No.18079165]

>>18078276
that'll be a great fall tie. the silk print looks Hermes quality

[Anonymous No.18079203]

>>18079142
me waiting for the nantucket red compsci student to make a return so I can deliver another smackdown

[Anonymous No.18079352]

>>18079132
This. I get a lot of 100% silk ties at the thriftstore for $5.00. Just picked up a Brooks Brothers one with the tag still on. And I live in a poor hick town.

there is a careless fathersday gift > thriftstore pipeline for ties.

[Anonymous No.18079371]

>>18079038
Brooks Brothers striped ties (the numbered ones) are versatile, respectable quality, and not too expensive ($90/tie, $40-60/tie on sale). I also like Drakes, Hermes, and Ferragamo, but those are ~$250/tie and you have to be style them correctly to pull them off

[Anonymous No.18079395]

>>18078276
'gamo? not my favorite print
>>18079038
there's no point. ties can be found cheaply at any 2nd hand store, and if you want something specific, you can find it in mint condition on ebay
>>18079352
i miss the days of dollar ties

[Anonymous No.18079406]

>>18079371
>>18079395
Seems quite difficult to find basics from big brands like Drake's on eBay though. I think my first two good ties will probably be a navy grenadine and a houndstooth wedding tie, I suppose that could be used for other formal events too. As much as I want an expensive and interesting Hermes tie or foulard tie, they're probably going to be less useful to me since I rarely wear ties. Just hurts in the same way because the ties are expensive for something incredibly subdued.

[Anonymous No.18079434]

>>18079371
Wow that ecru shirt in the top left with that tie is phenomenal. Thanks for the inspo, I typically have to see a few examples of how to wear a tie with certain color shirts before I get the hang of it.

[Anonymous No.18079440]

>>18079406
Drake's isn't a big brand, their anual revenue is around 10-13 million pounds, small burger joints sell more than that.

[Anonymous No.18079462]

>>18079440
Where do a lot of tie people actually buy ties then? Charvet? Turnbull & Asser? Hermes? Are these bigger?

[Anonymous No.18079494]

>>18079406
drakes is nice, but their second hand prices are absurd. plenty of brands can be had for much cheaper. try zegna
>>18079462
i think he meant 'big' in terms of revenue, not popularity amongst tie enthusiasts. i used to have a pastebin of brands to share, ill try finding it again

[Anonymous No.18079498]

>>18079395
>'gamo?
Yep. The pattern is called Maestrale I think.

[Anonymous No.18079730]

>>18079494
If you're going for /tip ties, you can get Polo and Brooks Brothers for almost any pattern and fabric you'd want much cheaper on eBay, and they're well made ties too.
Same for vintage Lands End and Robert Talbott. Upscale stores like Barney's New York and Saks often have vintage private label ties that are great too, most people don't look for them and they're often inexpensive.

[Anonymous No.18080025]

How much break is too much?

[Anonymous No.18080512]

I hate being a poorfag trying to build a capsule wardrobe. I love how snuff/tobacco suede looks but everything is telling me to stick with dark brown suede for le versatility.

[Anonymous No.18080586]

>>18080512
Get a job dougcel

[Anonymous No.18081309]

>>18078229
Wait, so I need more than just 5 OCBD's? How many is enough? How many kahkis is enough?

[Anonymous No.18081312]

>>18081309
Dude you sound retarded

[Anonymous No.18081324]

>>18078229
im retarded what brand are those white sneakers

[Anonymous No.18081331]

>>18081309
Solid white, solid light blue, blue and white University stripe, solid pink, red/burgundy university stripe, solid light gray and a solid pale green will give you the most mileage.

After that: blue and white awning stripe, blue and reverse stripe, green and white University stripe, purple and white University stripe, khaki university stripe, and cream/ecru are all good options but unless you have a large wardrobe you won't really "need" them.

I have a ton of OCBDs because they're the most versatile shirt I own. Wear them all year long, can wear with or without a tie with a sport coat, with jeans, linen trousers. with Baker pants, with shorts, etc. You can wear them with nearly anything except suits. Roll the sleeves and wear them with shorts in the summer, put a v-neck overtop to layer in the winter. They will also last forever. I have shirts from the late 70s/early 80s that I throw in the regular laundry and they're doing great, thank you eBay.

I can't praise them enough. Find what size fits you, set a limit of $30-$40 per shirt on eBay, load up and be set for years.

[Anonymous No.18081437]

>>18081331
Dont forgert pale yellow

[Anonymous No.18081847]

Do you think wearing a worsted navy suit jacket, notch lapels, flapped pockets with separate trousers is really that bad? Ignore any clothing autism, what do you think the general population think about it? Does it still look off? I'm wondering how far I can get away with using a navy suit jacket, or if I should go out and find a dedicated blazer/jacket even if it's difficult to find RTW.

[Anonymous No.18081849]

>>18081847
I mean the jacket fabric is too fine to be an odd jacket and I think that even the average Joe can tell something’s off.

[Anonymous No.18081970]

>>18080025
depends on the pant, depends on the outfit, depends on what the person is going for. i know the picture you cropped that from and it looks fine over all.

[Anonymous No.18081977]

>>18081847
The thing is. Yes, these details are only consciously known to clothing autists like us, or people who grew up immersed in the style. But they can be picked up subconsciously by normies. They can tell when something about your outfit is off. Also, even if they dont, if you dont feel satisfied with what you're wearing, that can nag at your mind and decrease your confidence. At least it does with mine. I like to feel like everything i wear is in its proper place, not a compromise/substitution.

[Anonymous No.18082271]

>>18081977
>>18081849
Thank you, this helped a lot. I posted in a previous thread that I was trying to decide between getting a navy or dark grey suit first since I rarely wear them. I tried both colours and I loved navy but since they are both cheap-ish twill suits, I feel that the charcoal looked a lot nicer and more interesting since there is some variation of white/grey up close, so I've kept that thanks to the responses. I can't get a perfect fit with RTW either thanks to being a gymcel so the dark grey seems to hide some of the undesirable fit of the trousers a little more. I'll look for a nicer, more heavily textured navy jacket instead because I really see what people mean now by navy looking very flattering. I'll also get some good MTM trousers since I'll get a lot of use out of those compared to a full suit and I am prepared to spend more. I think Collaro is supposed to be highly recommended?

[Anonymous No.18082365]

anything i could improve? please fit advices only i like my hair like that

[Anonymous No.18082479]

>>18072427
>stitching at the bottom
Look for shoes with "Goodyear Welt" or Goodyear Welted Construction" in the product description. That is what that stitching at the bottom is an indication of but it can also just be decorative stitching to mimic the look of a goodyear welt so check the description actually states that it is a goodyear welt. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodyear_welt

[Anonymous No.18082573]

thoughts?

[Anonymous No.18082599]

>>18082573
Probably high quality and a perfect piece for a british aristocrat.
Not something i would wear though.

[Anonymous No.18082672]

>>18073521
what is the type of the belt called? ive been trying to find one

[Anonymous No.18083265]

>>18082672
???
it's just a regular leather belt

[Anonymous No.18083301]

>>18083265
i would assume he means the way it tapers off

[Anonymous No.18083414]

>>18083265
>>18083301
>>18082672
can try a trafalgar belt or hit someone up who does leather work and have a custom one made

[Anonymous No.18083631]

[Anonymous No.18083653]

damn i love drake's

[Anonymous No.18083659]

>>18082573
I love Cordings and I dress mainly in a british country style, but tweed jackets are very hard to wear.

[Anonymous No.18083720]

>>18082573
Tweed seems like very hard to pull off especially something like that.

[Anonymous No.18084028]

>>18083720
A classic grey or brown herringbone jacket in tweed is easy to wear. A 3-button windowpane in drab brown with ticket pocket not so much.

[Anonymous No.18084201]

>>18074051
There's a subset called "French Ivy" that incorporates way more black in general into fits than American/British styles. It's interesting, there's a certain flamboyance to the style, they incorporate different color/pattern combos and accessories than the Anglo version but it doesn't have the "I don't give a shit" Italian sprezzatura vibe that is a trap if most people try and pull it off.

I am dogshit at explaining it, check this link out and then search "French Ivy" on insta for ideas.

https://www.permanentstyle.com/2021/05/what-is-french-ivy.html

Quick example is this pic from Instagram. By default I'd pick a brown or oxblood shoe to wear if I put this on, they often go with black shoes instead.

Basically your black oxfords can be versatile and will most likely go well with what you're already wearing, you just don't realize it because you've been exposed to a certain style for too long.

>>18082672
It's a Trafalgar belt I got off eBay. You can find them with a little more taper than this but it will give you a starting point.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/296349997170?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=v9Gy7a5uS36&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=z6kLtexFT8C&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[Anonymous No.18084347]

>>18084201
based baldanon dropping info

[Anonymous No.18084862]

>>18084347
it's baldfag, not baldanon

[Anonymous No.18085028]

Good place to get flannels in the UK?

[Anonymous No.18085064]

>>18085028
Drake’s, Natalino, Anglo Italian, Kit Blake
Even M&S sell flannels now, not really the best but decent for £60 if you’re a poorfag or have relatively slim legs.

[Anonymous No.18085079]

any brits have anything from walker slater? They have some tweed trousers I really like the look of for winter. I wish I could like grey flannel trousers, but they just remind me of cheap school uniforms.

[Anonymous No.18085084]

>>18084201
that was a good read, thanks. I picked up a pair of vintage black longwings and i never really knew what to wear them with. they seemed like an odd mix of formal and informal but maybe ill try again

[Anonymous No.18085193]

>>18085084
You're welcome. It may seem counterintuitive but longwings aren't formal. They may feel formal now because mens clothing and style has moved towards a more casual feel, but if you're going by "classic rules" they aren't. Basically if a shoe has embellishments or broguing, it's not formal. The holes in the leather were originally to allow rain to pass through without soaking the shoe, so wingtips were originally seen as a rustic, country shoe. Sort of like how tweed was a working fabric and considered casual, but we think of it as more formal now.

[Anonymous No.18085311]

>>18085193
i get that longwings are supposed to be "informal" (youre right - still getting used to it), it's the black color that is throwing me off i guess. ive seen plenty of brown/tan longwings look good with jeans/chinos but black idk

[Anonymous No.18085369]

>>18085311
I understand your view, I was pretty much the exact same way. Black=formal. And while I think that still holds true for black suits and tuxedos, there's plenty of room to work black in when it comes to regular fits. Once I understood the role texture plays in formality, it made more sense.

Tuxedo: Solid black color, uniform smooth fabric.Formal.
Black tweed sport coat: Uneven black color, textured rough fabric, a pattern, patch pockets on top of the coat disrupting the lines slightly. Not formal.
Black oxfords: Sleek, uniform black color. Formal.
Black longwings: Texture from the broguing, sometimes a chunkier, heavier heel. More rounded toe, less sleek, more weight to the shoe. Less formal.

[Anonymous No.18085526]

>>18072427
smell

[Anonymous No.18085528]

how to dress in hot weather regions? most of the pics/discussion here has multiple which would not fly in my 2nd world country.

[Anonymous No.18085533]

>>18085528
Going to quote my post from the other thread on layering in warm weather

>If you're going to layer in the summer, at some point you have to accept you're going to be hot and possibly sweating and make your peace with it. The key is layering light weight pieces made of breathable fabric.

>Hopsack is good, anything with a fresco weave is good. Tropical weight wool is fantastic as well. Linen is good, lightweight linen and cotton blend oxfords are great. Poplin feels light but I swear I swear more wearing a light poplin shirt compared to a heavier oxford.

>You have to build from outside in.
Start with an undershirt that will wick sweat away and prevent it from pooling and causing sweat to bleed through at your armpits and back. Get a good quality undershirt, wool works really well for this.
Same principle for underwear.
Then go for a cotton, linen, Madras or seersucker shirt in a traditional/loose/relaxed/classic fit. You don't want slim, skinny or tight here. You want loose and as much space as possible between your skin and the shirt to promote air flow. Same with trousers. Fresco weave, linen,silk blend,hopsack, tropical weight wool,etc sized to give you a flowy, loose silhouette. Make sure there's plenty of room in the crotch, right anywhere is the enemy.

>For the sport coat, get something unlined and unstructured. Meaning you don't have the canvas lining, no padding either. You don't want it to be as loose as the shirt so it won't look sloppy, so pick a breathable fabric just like the trousers. Plain cotton can work just fine here. Silk and light wool blends are great for this as well. Don't wear a tie if you don't have to,unbutton a few buttons like guy in your pic and you'll be ok. I survived summers in Georgia and Alabama that way.

Tldr: Natural fabrics only, light layers, looser fit.
Also if you can pull it off, a bandana dipped in ice water and then wrung dry and wrapped around your neck is great to temporarily cool down.

[Anonymous No.18085537]

>>18085533
thank you, will check em out.
been experimenting with fabrics (right). linen seems the best ig

[Anonymous No.18085554]

>>18085537
linen is great and very popular right now so you can snag al ot of it on discount

[Anonymous No.18085583]

>>18069414
it's like a sex doll that's designed to be ugly as fuck so nobody buys it kind of fit
you oxford ivy twinks are cucked in your own eyeballs

[Anonymous No.18085584]

>>18085554
>>18085537
get that nasty fucking shit tailored to fit properly instead of looking like it's fresh off the rack and tucked in sloppily to "fit" an image

[Anonymous No.18085585]

>>18080586
no stylish expensive clothes = no good job = can't afford said clothes = stuck in the wagepit

[Anonymous No.18085586]

>>18078276
she's saying you're a chicken who is too afraid to talk to women like a real man
you will be laughed at during internal reviews about your interview performance
prepare to be known as the cuck

[Anonymous No.18085609]

>>18085583
tough post to parse

[Anonymous No.18085664]

Thoughts on Sebago loafers?
Rubber soles are a must where I live.

[Anonymous No.18085665]

>>18085583
room temp iq

[Anonymous No.18085673]

>>18085664
Shit quality corrected grain leather

[Anonymous No.18085682]

>>18085664
As I pointed out on my previous post >>18072643 they are corrected grain. Now there’s nothing necessarily wrong with the fact, they just won’t develop patina, they won’t be as high guality and comfortable overall as something more expensive.

[Anonymous No.18085742]

>>18085682
NTA. Say I am not in a position to get nicer shoes like Alden or C&J, and can only afford budget brands like Loake 1880 and a few other cheaper Spanish brands. Am I better off just buying a cheap corrected grain shoe for half the price of Loake until I can comfortably afford/convince myself to get C&J etc, which are twice the price of Loake, or should I still buy the Loake or equivalents?

I can't see myself in the future upgrading from Loake to C&J for X style of shoe when I already have it but I don't really know how my opinions will change.

[Anonymous No.18085758]

is this trad?

[Anonymous No.18085760]

>>18085758

[Anonymous No.18085773]

>>18085742
Loake aren't bad, miles ahead of Sebago and the like for sure

[Anonymous No.18085815]

>>18085742
You know, I used to love the idea of replacing my Weejuns with a pair of JM Weston 180’s but I’ve sort of grown to like the shittyness of the Weejuns. I don’t need to worry about them and there’s a certain utilitarianism to them and I’ve grown to appreciate that aspect in all of my clothes. Sure, I might buy a pair in the future but currently I’m happy with my shitty Weejuns which cost me 100€.

[Anonymous No.18085849]

>>18085773
Would you still avoid the non-1880 lines? I believe they are all polished leathers.
>>18085815
Yes, I realise this with a lot of the clothing I end up spending more money than I previously would have on. Beautiful clothing or shoes are beautiful in appearance and I think sometimes it can be easy to fetishise an object because a lot of your other successful style icons wear it or recommend it, it's really nice being able to buy something for life or for a very long time and know that it is absolutely beautiful, the peak of what you can afford, and a joy to wear but at the end of the day they are just clothes. They are meant to be used and get worn. I'm not sure if this is a poorfag cope but I feel that I'll probably settle into the shittyness, certainly for high wear items like shoes. I just hope I don't regret not spending more.

[Anonymous No.18085994]

>>18085758
Looks like a sprezzatura guy doing a trad-style fit. Not bad though.

[Anonymous No.18086338]

>>18076598
trannyester is something to be legitimately disgusted by

[Anonymous No.18086629]

Can anyone start a new thread? I'm literally retarded, everytime I try and make a new one it gives me a 300 second cool down, then the cool down restarts. Fucking jannies don't want me talking about Cooper collars.

[Anonymous No.18086733]

>>18086629
there you go m8 >>18086713
i noticed it did that last time i tried to start a thread on mobile, weird

[Anonymous No.18086838]

>>18072110
not that anon but "reddit spacing" is always the most obvious signifier that YOU are the newfag. People have been doing that on 4chan forever get new bait retard

[Anonymous No.18087778]

Day at the river