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Red Dials Edition.

Guides and Info:
> Poorfag guide: https://www.imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
> Watch essentials 102: https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV
> Purchasing used watches: https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2
> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE
> List of space watches: https://pastebin.com/Te6PNzxr
> /wt/ Pasta: https://pastebin.com/GBLwAm0f

Should I buy this MVMT / DW / "minimalist" fashion watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

Should I buy this Armani / Michael Kors / mall watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/Sw1FsAn

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand-wound, quartz
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd-time zone
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
> Wrist size or desired watch size

Let us be nice to each other without being fake. Honesty and critique are good traits that have been lost and demonized in todays world.

Old Thread: >>18012303

>> No.18014408
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First for kofe.

>> No.18014412

Second for gold Rolex or bust

>> No.18014419

>>18014408
>casually drops the best watch of all time
well

>> No.18014448
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>>18014412
My Texas Timex.

>> No.18014453

>>18014448
Spectacular, life is gold

>> No.18014454

Guide to posters

Major avatarfags
=============

>Poortadello/OmegaDrunk
Multi-reply specialist. Canadian. Gay. Only posts about his own watches. Very repetitive posts. Has several obscure Omegas only he cares about. Notorious for samefagging. Obsessed with BitterAnon.

>Whoretadello
Balding Greek living in Germany. Has a tendency of buying too large watches. Cleans cars for a living. Has a Tudor, Homos, and some Seikos. Life currently falling apart, filling the void with materialism and falling in love with strippers. Made a discord server, has total of two members. Tax evader, sex trafficker, tried to hide the evidence by deleting posts.

>Citizen drunk/Finncel
25% Finnish, 50% Swedish, rest is a mystery. Lives in Finland. Works as a shelver in a grocery store. Alcoholic. Repetitive posts about alcohol, coins and Eco-Drives. Tragic case of gyno.

>Mortadello
Very positive and friendly, but doesn't post anything of any consequence. Lawyer. Obese. Posts improving photos of amazing watches. Lies about his age. Does not take criticism well.

Semi-regular posters
================

>HamiltonDrunk
Posts a single picture per thread before getting drunk and passing out. Owns a Hamilton. Works in television and film.

>Nobully anon
Trans. Has rich parents who have bought them several VCs.

>Cockwatch
Has one F-91W, has posted it on his cock. Mostly posts the Casio with Soviet knick-knacks. Trans. Wants to be Emma Watson. Russian living in Latvia with mommy. Has ties to BitterAnon.

>ALS anon
Has an 1815 Up/Down. Stays under the radar, but occasionally pops his head up to flex and complain

>Hungarian anon
Is a watchmaker, complains about his customers

>Central Florida Anon
Looking for a wristlet to love

>Raketanon
Has 3 soviet Raketa watches and a Raketa table clock. Likes his big 0. Wanted to be listed and got listed.

>BitterAnon
Who is the mysterious BitterAnon? It could be anyone! It could even be you! Currently residing inside the heads of several avatarfags.

>> No.18014462
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>>18014454
Who is the mysterious BitterAnon?
YOU.

Guide to BitterAnon
================

>BitterAnon
Unemployed autist. Gay. Obese. Schizophrenic. Notorious for samefagging. Hates people posting their watches. Seethes at everyone. Posts list & chart. Obsessed with OmegaDrunk and Whoretadello. Shills Rolex despite not owning one. Excellent at ban evading. Posts from multiple devices.

>> No.18014490

>>18014448
/thread

Really spectacular.

>> No.18014499
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>>18014448
beautiful watch anon
>>18014402
I love red dials, but have never pulled the trigger on one. Maybe the pioneer center seconds in red?

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>>18014499
wrong pic kek

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I want to put a strap on a relatively thick watch. Is this exposed vertical space on the sides (where the end of the bracelet was covering) unavoidable?

>> No.18014514

RED

>> No.18014515
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>>18014508
with straight springbars drilled that far away with the case, yes. Unless there's some sort of special made strap for a particular watch but those are few and far between and probably not available for your watch. If the gap bothers you that much you can use a nato strap, but be warned it will effectively make your watch thicker. Nice watch btw

>> No.18014523

>>18014508
You could try buying a thicker padded strap.

>> No.18014529

>>18014506
H. Moser & Cie bros......

>> No.18014531
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>shills rolex without owning one

WRONG! LMFAOOOOOOOOO

>> No.18014543

>>18014506
wtf why are they so expensive?

>> No.18014544

>>18014462
Bitta

>> No.18014564
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Where the red boys at?

>> No.18014566

>>18014564
Based sweeping hands enjoyer.

>> No.18014567
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red is the day

>> No.18014570
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red bros, we run this thread.

>> No.18014571
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Anyone else into doxas?

>> No.18014574

>>18014543
moser is a flex for people rich enough to buy joke watches for a normal person's entire annual salary. it's basically jacob & co but for people who consider themselves better than that.

>> No.18014577

>>18014574
Can't argue with that.

>> No.18014578

>>18014571
Used to be. Love the design and history. Hate the current company that makes them. Basically just being drop shipped from China and they have surprisingly poor lume.

>> No.18014610
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I hate this faggot so much it's unreal

>> No.18014611

>>18014610
why do you care?

>> No.18014615

>>18014408
>shitizen
Do I really need to keep posting your obituary every thread?

>> No.18014617

>>18014564
How much are these?
I always liked the movement but the older precisionists were real dogshit

>> No.18014618

>>18014564
cool watch anon

>> No.18014620

>>18014610
I kind of admire how he can take himself so seriously despite being a complete clown.
Wish I had that lack of self-awareness

>> No.18014645

>>18014610
>Welcome to Bark&Jack, my name is Jack.

Is that so hard?

>> No.18014646
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>>18014617
Got mine for around 380 euros from amazon. When I got the blue dial GS, i felt I needed to pair it up with a red boy (a sweeper at that too) so I went for it. I had pic from before so I was pretty familiarised with the movement. Very glad that it's not as big though. The precisionist is basically at the limit of what I can get away in terms of size but managed to make it work with a proper strap.
I think there's another three variations of the jet star. The classic white dial with red and blue indices and hands is the most expensive of the bunch. I think it goes for, like, around 500.

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I kinda want to buy one of these old datejusts with the diamond dial, there's a certain kind of dirtbag appeal

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where to get a coffee dial 556?
shit looks good

>> No.18014703
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>>18014690
check watchbuys every so often

>> No.18014708

>>18014703
why did you buy 4 times the same watch m8?

>> No.18014712

>>18014708
so you can get 4 different angles of his room. watches are passive spying devices

>> No.18014718

>>18014708
I bought them to flip. I’m still waiting for the resale to climb above MSRP.

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>> No.18014726

>>18014722
the ghost pic
>>18014718
aaaa makes sense, carry on sir.

>> No.18014729
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18014729

Citizen Eco-Drive on the wrist today.
What are you wearing, frens?

>> No.18014730

bros
i found the 3rd (and final) collar I dropped yesterday
life is good

>> No.18014732

>>18014730
happy for you m8.
>>18014729
took you long today.

>> No.18014733
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>>18014732
Sorry, fren. Busy day today.

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>>18014690

>> No.18014758

>forced to remove my watch everytime I need to use my laptop for extended time in order to avoid scratcing the fuck out of the palm surface
Can I get uhhhhh watch with a silicone strap that does not have ANY parts where my wrists touches the laptop?

>> No.18014762

>>18014750
Le inspired by the late autumn fallen leaves of the Yamanote Niggazaki Tree during the rainy season of the fukuoka clouds that carry the wind that passes through the mountains of the oita prefecture to bring us with this stunning dial full of japanese soul and its rich history. While the hands themselves glide through the markers representing the endless flow of time and our constant reminder of 死, the brown strap symbolizes our food and the shit that comes out of our system.

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>>18014758
It's part of the deal.

>> No.18014766
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18014766

What are some dress watches that fit these criteria
>Small/Classic size (probably 34-36mm?)
>Manual wind
> 3-hand, no seconds, or small seconds
>white metal (stainless steel, white gold, or platinum)
>simple classy dial
Feel free to reference any variety of price ranges. I feel like the Tank Louis fits but from what I can see it’s only offered in yellow gold, and the Tank Must is just a cheap quartz caliber
Picture is my Very Cool Alpinist in the bathroom

>> No.18014771

>>18014765
I could care about the watch, it is that I do not want to scratch my laptop.
I could apply a layer of packing tape but that would poorfag as hell.

>> No.18014823

How flashy is a fluted DJ bezel in real life? I want one, but I don't want an attention grabbing watch.
>get a domed bezel datejust
no

>> No.18014834

>>18014823
Extremely flashy, less so in non precious metal, but still very showy. Absolutely not something to get if you don't wanna show off.

>> No.18014851

>>18014823
Not as bad as you think, especially if you get a 36mm size DJ. It will be sparkly but white gold is still easily confused for steel by normal people.

But if you’re worried about inadvertently flexing too hard on people, you shouldn’t buy a Rolex. Get something that no one will ever notice like a Grand Seiko, leave the Rolexes for self-confident chads.

>> No.18014861

>>18014408
Based
>>18014615
Kys

>> No.18014865
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Anyone know what model this is a knockoff of? Also, the stopwatch second hand resets to the 12 minute mark instead of 0 lol

>> No.18014884

>>18014574
they have few quirky meme pieces, but their normal stuff is solid for the price. which is exorbitant of course, but they compete with other high whorology brands well

>> No.18014893

>>18014766
Perhaps a nomos tetra/Ludwig/Orion? Not for everyone though. I believe stowa also makes a 36mm deck watch with small seconds.

>> No.18014940

Getting my Tudor BB (Navy) cleaned tomorrow. Might look at some more pieces as well. I want a 1926 but I doubt I will ever find occasion to wear it, while my BB I wear almost daily.

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Sealander 36mm on the wrist today

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Happy Valentine's Day, Frens. Hope you all have a great day, and are able to spend some time with loved ones.

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>>18014865
It looks like an extremely shitty version of the Premier B01.

>> No.18014991

>>18014953
Neat. How old is it? Nice dial texture. Is it solid gold?
I don't know why, but numerals at the even numbers instead of at the cardinal points bothers me.

>> No.18014994
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Casio A1000 black pearl too fruity or nah.

>> No.18015001

>>18014994
Looks good.

>> No.18015008

>>18014940
Try the Royal out if you get the chance. It's got a sleazy 70s style that can be kind of cool.
I tried it on a few weeks ago and I haven't been able to get it out of my head. I don't like it (I don't think I like it) but I can't dismiss it.

>> No.18015013

>>18014994
I mean the regular A1000 is better, but nah looks alright

>> No.18015019

>>18015008
I don't know if I like it either, also seems too upscale to wear daily. Might get a Ranger though, with a leather strap. I'm excited to try out new stuff either way.

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Watch ID on this fine gentleman?

>> No.18015035

>>18015029
two tone Datejust

>> No.18015084
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Is there a quartz that has a similar DESIGN LANGUAGE. And is under 500ish. Do you anons know?

>> No.18015090
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>>18015084
I assume there's a quartz, but a lot of vintage watches have that design, such as omega seamaster cosmic 2000

>> No.18015093

is this a decent fake? not really trying to talk or show it off, but have something with a familiar shape sitting on my wrist. (https://jtime.io/us/overseas-4500v-ss-zf-1-1-best-edition-silver-dial-on-ss-bracelet-a5100.html))

I need a big watch for an event. This would be considered entry level there.
I actually good suits (zegna bespoke SR), but I'm totally not a watch guy and I wouldn't ever drop 40k on a watch. But I also can't wear an apple watch or no watch or wear jewelry instead. It would be amiss.

Is renting watches maybe a thing?

>> No.18015112

>>18014957
Hope you had a great day.

>> No.18015141

>>18015093
The images are loading in the site, but I imagine no one is going to be inspecting your watch closely enough to spot a fake assuming the fake is of reasonable quality

>> No.18015143

>>18015141
>>18015093
Imagines ARENT loading

>> No.18015146

>>18015093
>but I'm totally not a watch guy and I wouldn't ever drop 40k on a watch.
If they know you're not the guy to drop 40k on a watch, no one will believe it's real.

Why exactly, can't you not wear a watch?

>> No.18015179

>>18015146
I mean I could but everyone will be wearing a watch. Last time I didn't have one and I kind of felt like I didn't really fit on. Hard to explain. It's a bougie thing. But then again maybe I'm just being the tard here with my totally not wanting an expensive timepiece yet not paying the according amount for item status I don't care about which reinforces my personal status though. Eh I guess I just never set set aside the money for that and spent it elsewhere and now I'm feel like I'm missing out when everyone will be wearing at least newer expensive watches and rare vintage watches and I just like the vibe of VC. I'm also not a car guy so I'm already not fitting on in that regard.

>> No.18015181

No one ever wants to talk about furniture and stuff. These fucks don't know a single thing about suits either.

>> No.18015184

>>18015179
nigger you are retarded if you have a problem with being bougie. Get off this website and go wear peasant potato sacks like the nigger you are.

>> No.18015189

>>18015184
Wow, you're retarded, man. Learn to read.

>> No.18015215

>>18014408
whats the service interval for this thing, and how hard will it be to get serviced?

>> No.18015217

>>18015181
Since when is furniture /fa/, let alone watches?

>> No.18015223

>>18015217
>in the watch thread
>anon asked why I would come to be in a situation where I had to wear a watch yet wasn't interested in watches
literally 100 iq. please touch grass and do something useful

>> No.18015228

>>18015223
That wasn't the question at all. Not even close.

>> No.18015231
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>>18014994
not fruity. but a negative face can be a bit hard to read in direct sunlight and on certain viewing angles. and mine has started to dim after almost 2 decades.

>> No.18015269

>>18014758
>not automatically taping up all your clasps so the finish stays perfect

>> No.18015272

>>18014865
>24hr subdial

>> No.18015280

>>18015093
A basic VC overseas like that won't cost you 40k first off, more like 25k

But that's beside the point

It seems like money isn't a problem for you, so why not get like a vintage VC or something like to save some money? You can probably get one like that for anywhere from 10-20k off chrono24

Alternatively you could always just rock an entry level datejust or something like that, costs around 10k

If you're at the point where you're worrying about buying a 25k watch in order to keep up with your colleagues, the likelihood of some guy randomly asking to check your watch out and noticing some weird idiosyncracy and starting a rumor that you're wearing a fake sounds way worse than just spending the money on a watch

>> No.18015316

what is /wt/'s favorite smartwatch

>> No.18015320

Do swatches have lume?

>> No.18015323
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>>18014991
Not gold,is a shiter,still,my most valuable watch because it was probably one of the first grampa's watches if not the first so it is around 70-80 year old.Long ago asked here and people pointed that the watch is probably from around mid 40s-mid 50s. All I know about the brand is some vintage art deco clocks and that the brad was French. The movement is a basic one,used in world war II watches and is in a very good condition,running at +30spd,good considering the type of movement and that I have not touched it at all.
The best part of the watch is the size and dial,pretty modern at 39mm,still with a very short lug to lug. My favourite thing about it is the art deco guilloche dial,looks better in person because the plastic glass is a bit scratched and yellowish.

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>>18014953
>>18015323
nta, i like it too. the dial is cool, i like these patterns, more watches should have them. picrel is my old seiko

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>>18014448
there should be a special thread for precious metals rolex owners away from the plebs here

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does anyone know much about the tudor hydronaut tiger?

I'm looking for a cheap holiday diver

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>>18015333
Overall,modern dials are very plain,at most,watches will have the oversused sunburst or some random pattern. It seems that seiko is one of the few brands triying different dials.

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It is funny that the shitter has a nicer dial.

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>>18015360
Sunburst can be cool.

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>>18015368
More or less agree,that seiko looks cooler vecause it is patinated and not too shiny,more like just brushed metal.

>> No.18015373

>>18015367
Sadly, that's just how tudor is. You don't buy one for the dial or finishing.

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Regulated this myself and now it runs at -1s/d for the last few days.
Any way to put Chronometer on the dial?

>> No.18015415

>>18015403
I KNEEL,
You can even put Master Chronometer on the dial if it's less than 3 seconds off.

>> No.18015423
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Good morning lads, what's on your wrist today?

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>>18014402
Can you name a better datejust cope? (protip, you can't)

>brand creed
checkd
>exact same size
check
>almost 1 to 1 copy
check
>maximum sleaziness
check
>under 1k
check

>> No.18015429

>>18015373
Yes, that's why I bought it,a well made and reliable watch that can last decades and flies under the radar because I don't like flashy things. The only fancy thing is probably the polising of indices and case edges,outside of that you can't really notice anything impressive in the watch.

>mfw my gf,who thinks a 100€ watch is already really expensive doesn't know that what I wear on my wrist cost 4k€

>> No.18015432

>>18015429
Yeah to most non-watch people, everything above 300€ is considered expesnive and everything that costs more than their iphones is high end luxury.
I got my tudor because of the movement and the case being ceramic. I also didn't have a completely black watch so that was also one of the reason(s). But the dial and overall finishing is sub-par, even compared to my 3 digit watches.

>> No.18015438

>>18015432
Movement feels extremely good, I just winded if for some turns,you can tell the difference in movement quality vs sellita/eta/seiko,felt smooth with almost no mechanical sound,same with the bezel,no loose and the sound is really quiet.

>> No.18015444
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>>18015438
Kinda similar experience. Winding it feels very weird. It got almost zero resistance and, like you mentioned, no mechanical sound. The movement is extremely accurate and quiet, and you can't feel the rotor swinging either.
It is solidly build, but again, there is no finishing. At least there was some attempt at decorating it, and I appreciate it being an open back.

>> No.18015448

>>18015373
>You don't buy one for the dial or finishing.
You buy it because you can't afford a Rolex and you don't have enough shame to not wear a cope.

>> No.18015450

>>18015448
stfu bitter bitch, we're talking about watches here.

>> No.18015452

>>18015444
At least they've stopped doing open casebacks in their other models. The gold BB is a particular tragedy. They only made an open caseback because sapphire would be cheaper than a solid gold caseback, but they made no effort at finishing the movement either.

What a dishonest brand. >>18015448 This is right. You just have to hate yourself on some level to wear one.

>> No.18015459

>>18015448
Nah,I bought the bb58 because as I said,I don't like shiny things, I also considered purchasing the Omega railmaster but felt it was kinda chunky. I would take bb58 over Submariner any day because I find Submariner shinier, it has more polished surface,the dial is glossy and I don't like a lot the type of bezel,I prefer aluminium and not glossy ceramic, and prefer a coin type bezel edge. And about the suze,bb58 is 39mm and Submariner is bigger,I prefer smaller watches and Rolex bracelet extends a bit more than the Tudor one. Also,the fucking rolex crown is an awful logo, tudor shield is a bit bland,the rose was better,but still miles ahead of the crown. Also no ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX around the dial.

>> No.18015460
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18015460

THE TUDOR
bio: blackshield was born with a special power. he was a better chronograph than all the other watches in the swiss fighting academy. he served in the swiss military fighting omega and in the final battel against omega they were fighting and omega turned him to the darkness and blackshed turned against rolex and killed him. he lost part of his snowflake in the battle which is why he doesnt not have a snowflake hour hand, pls stop PMing me askin me why thats why. also snoflakes arent gurly fuk you grandseiko everyone knos ur a fuckin quartz scammer fagot
likes: hurtin people, bein badass, timing motorcycle races, nine inch nails (the band), killing, death, punk rock, jinco jeans, skulls, darkness, hot gurls with big boobys who are sluts, short nails (on hand), snoflakes, red (cool kind not gay kind)
dislikse: niceness, happiness, levis, grandseiko from japan fuck you seiko stop usin zaratsu finishing you peace of shit, trent razner, ninne inch nails (on finger), rolex (megga ass-faggot), sunshine, life, my dad (hans wilsdorf), glashutte

>> No.18015461

>>18015460
Classic.

>> No.18015463

Tudor owners should be banned from posting.

>> No.18015464

>>18015459
I can literally taste the cope from this post.
It's that THICK.

>> No.18015469
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>>18015463
If we banned everyone who should be banned, this thread would just be a handful of high-end and ultra-luxury owners checking in with each other every few months. The thread would never get to the sage limit before hitting page 10.

Hell, just banning Whoretadello would cost us at least 50 posts per thread.

>> No.18015470

>>18015403
>Any way to put Chronometer on the dial?
You mean Хpoнoмeтp?

>> No.18015479

>>18015403
>Any way to put Chronometer on the dial?
You can use a small felt tip pen.

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>>18015464
Desl with it nerd.

>> No.18015485
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the 120m seamaster is a good dress watch for tiny wrist.

>> No.18015486

>>18015482
Nice Rolmex! Is it the one Jean Gommery wore in James Bong?

>> No.18015493

>>18015470
decent kek

>> No.18015494

>>18015482
Are you new here? Don't reply to bitterfag. It's jsut one guy spamming.

>> No.18015504

>>18015429
>flies under the radar because I don't like flashy things
are we still doing the quiet luxury cope? I thought that was done last year

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>>18015482
Have you tried the BB54? It corrects all the problems of the BB58.

>> No.18015518

Tea Time.
>>18015508
Does Tudor have a titanium watch?

>> No.18015521
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18015521

Forgot the pic lol

>> No.18015520

>>18015518
Isn't Pelagos from titanium?

>> No.18015522
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18015522

Citizen Eco-Drive on the wrist today. What are you wearing, frens?

>> No.18015524

The tea should be ready right about now.

>> No.18015525
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18015525

>>18015520
It is, you're correct. And wow that bracelet. GS could learna thing or two.
But the pelagos is too similar to my tudor. I guess I am looking for a GMT

>> No.18015526

>>18015521
>>18015524
>>18015525
You're literally just spamming to be annoying. You're just as bad as bittercel. I wish you'd both just leave.

>> No.18015527
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>>18015521
Based.
Kofe time for me.

>> No.18015529

>>18015518
>Does Tudor have a titanium watch?
Yes, but the BB54 is steel. The Pelagos divers are titanium.

>> No.18015532

>>18015526
not the first time that I got accused of samefagging, it's fine. The possibility that bitterfag is falseflagging to make ti seem like I am samefagging, never crossed your mind? Think about it. And I saw the threads on warosu while I was gone, they were abysmal.
>>18015527
>>18015522
Holy based.

>> No.18015533

>>18015532
You were more fun when you posted pictures of hookers and whined about being banned. Now, you're just boring and repetitive.

>> No.18015534

>>18015529
Just saw that the pelagos is 42mm I guess that's too big for my wrist.

>> No.18015535

>>18015533
Now I am just here to talk watches I guess, and my pictures are never the same. I take new ones every day.
If you want hooker pics, I regularly post new ones in the discord server.

>> No.18015539

>>18015534
>Just saw that the pelagos is 42mm I guess that's too big for my wrist.
They make a little Pelagos for women too (38-39mm I think). It's not pink or diamond-studded so a "man" with a tiny wrist could wear it.

>> No.18015540

>>18015539
Are they literally labeled as a Women Watches? Well I guess I have to accept it at this point.

>> No.18015541

>>18015535
>I take new ones every day.
And yet they are indistinguishable from the ones you took yesterday.
Fuck, your life is sad and boring.

>> No.18015542
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>>18015522
Today is Mido day for me.

>> No.18015544
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18015544

Nah i'm sorry, these are ugly.

>> No.18015546

>>18015540
>Are they literally labeled as a Women Watches?
They're labeled "mid-size" or "unisex" since there's more wristlets buying watches than women. (Women just want Cartiers and Apple watches.) If they labeled it as a women's watch, then no one would buy it.

>Well I guess I have to accept it at this point.
There's a lot you should accept, but that requires humility and self-awareness.

>> No.18015548

>>18015544
No one fucking asked you, though.

>> No.18015549

>>18015546
Unisex is codeword for wristlet. Makes sense.
>There's a lot you should accept, but that requires humility and self-awareness.
I'll bite, what is there that I haven't accepted yet according to your assumptions of me?

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>>18015522
Still wearing the Moser.

I sold a couple of my watches this week. Ones I never wore. Trying to get down to a small collection

>> No.18015553

>>18015550
>Trying to get down to a small collection
Trying to do the same, hopefully within the year. I have to sell around 6 watches. Can I see your watches movement? If you happen to have a pic.

>> No.18015554

>>18015508
>>18015508
Which problems?,for some reason that watch didn't caught my attention, it is smaller yes, but I already have a 37mm watch and I don't like it having gold indices and then white marks...and no red triangle, which is an absurd thing, but the red triangle has its charm.I have read that the adjustable clasp is better than the average one that the bb58 has,but that seems to be something subjective since I don't have noticed anything with the fit my 58 has, maybe I'm lucky with the correct circumference.And the rivet thing I think it is some online watchers love to bitch about, I have the watch and I barely notice the rivets, then you go to forums/YT comments and all you see is crying people who never wore the watch pointing at rivets because in every video and image you see a extremely closeup with special lighting and not natural lights.

>> No.18015556

>>18015549
>I'll bite, what is there that I haven't accepted yet according to your assumptions of me?
How the hell would I know?
>There's a lot you should accept, but that requires humility and self-awareness.
That's general advice for everyone on the path of self-improvement. The fact that you reflexively got pissy and defensive about it isn't encouraging, though.

>> No.18015557

>>18015485
wristlet watch

>> No.18015558

>>18015542
>>18015550
Based

>> No.18015561

>>18015556
>The fact that you reflexively got pissy and defensive about it
another assumption. I was just curious because I get many messages like these from people who, just like you said-
>How the hell would I know?
they also don't know. So i was curious if I said something that sticked.

>> No.18015563

>>18015561
Not an assumption at all. it was actually in your response to me.
So, okay, you're obviously just looking to pick a fight, so I'm not going to respond to you any longer.

>> No.18015564

>>18015558
more like crap

>> No.18015565
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>>18015553
Here you go. It's simple, but nicely done.

Despite being pretty outrageous in terms of dial color, it's actually a comfortable, practical watch.

>> No.18015566

>>18015563
Alright man, you do you.
One last thing, if you really meant it in a general sense, then I apologise. Written words can easily be misunderstood. Don't blame me for thinking that here:
>>Well I guess **I** have to accept it at this point.
>There's a lot **you** should accept, but that requires humility and self-awareness.
I thought it was aimed at me specifically.
But as a general advice, obviously you are correct, it's a good one.

>> No.18015567

>>18015565
It looks simple at first glance but gets increasingly detailed and beautiful the longer I look at it. There is a lot of perlage for example and the rotos is very thin, not hiding anythigng. Thanks for the pic.

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>>18015565
If I had ton of money, the streamliner is the watch I would buy.

>> No.18015572

>>18015570
no blue heated screws?

>> No.18015573

>>18015570
avoid it like a plague

>> No.18015574

>>18015572
Just black polish (a.k.a. zaratsu)

>> No.18015577

>>18015574
Based.

>> No.18015582
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>>18015522
good day fren, I'm wearing a salmon

>> No.18015595

>>18015532
have you ever samegged so much you could possibly flag as a falsefag natural gaslighting as samefag while crossing as a mindfreak you could anything into the abyss?

>> No.18015596

>>18015595
all that while casually maintaining perfect levels of bitterness.

>> No.18015598

>>18015595
Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?

>> No.18015599
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18015599

>country roads, take me home, to a thread, not full of poors
>your toopoor suck shit and your bald
>wife divorced you and she’s gone
>take me home, country roads

>> No.18015603
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18015603

my tool watch daily

>> No.18015605

If you want to be better you first have to be bitter.

>> No.18015606
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>>18015603
Based.

>> No.18015607

>>18015605
5 stages of b*tterness
>batter
>better
>bitter
>boter
>butter

>> No.18015608

>>18015603
nice daily watch tool

>> No.18015609

>>18015598
Have you ever had a dream that you, um, you had, your, you- you could, you’ll do, you- you wants, you, you could do so, you- you’ll do, you could- you, you want, you want them to do you so much you could do anything?

>> No.18015614

>>18015563
Based
>>18015566
Cringe

>> No.18015617

>>18015609
America is a Nation that Can be Defined in a Single Word

>> No.18015618

>>18015617
Asufutimaehaehfutbw

>> No.18015621

>>18015463
meh i get not wanting to look at another boring black bay but that said my next purchase is going to be a 1926

>> No.18015629

>>18015621
>my next purchase is going to be a 1926
Why that model line specifically? Are you looking for a dress watch?

>> No.18015636
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18015636

Kofe Time

>> No.18015637

>>18015636
holy BASED

>> No.18015643

>>18014448
>>18014499
>>18014506
>>18014515
>>18014669
>>18015029
>>18015350
>>18015508
>>18015550
>>18015565
>>18015570
Excellent.

>> No.18015645
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18015645

New Baltic

>> No.18015648

>>18014402
5
>>18014408
7
>>18014448
6
>>18014499
8
>>18014508
2
>>18014564
6
>>18014567
3
>>18014646
4
>>18014652
5
>>18014750
4
>>18014865
3
>>18014951
Christopher Ward
>>18014953
2
>>18014957
6
>>18015231
1
>>18015367
7
>>18015371
3
>>18015485
4
>>18015521
7
>>18015522
4
>>18015542
6
>>18015550
8
>>18015582
2
>>18015603
1
>>18015636
8

>> No.18015651

>>18014448
Why is it called Texas Timex?

>> No.18015652

>>18015651
because of a president iirc

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>>18014893
The Ludwig looks nice, shame about the lugs.
Weird that only one brand in Germany seems to be making this kind of watch. I guess maybe it’s too formal for most scenarios.
Seiko has some nice ones in the Craftsmanship line with porcelain dials but they’re all 40mm and thick and automatic, and Cartier is nice but it’s quartz.

>> No.18015656

>>18015654
>porcelain
how much is it? 3000?

>> No.18015657

>>18015652
During the oil boom years in Texas, there were more gold Rolexes sold in Texas than in the rest of the Americas combined. It was an extremely common watch among wealthy Texans. (As common as a 10 dollar Timex)

>> No.18015659

>>18015657
I see, that's actually a decent lore.

>> No.18015663

>>18015648
shit taste kys

>> No.18015664

>>18015656
1700
Overpriced for a 6R movement but would be great with a better calibre and more classic dress watch dimensions

>> No.18015665

>>18015663
0

>> No.18015666

>>18015664
>1700
BASE-
>6R
Riperinos. Is it also rated at +-30 or whatever?

>> No.18015670

>>18015654
>>18015664
That's the thing with Seiko, though, isn't it?
They seemingly have no idea what makes a good watch. Look at their catalog. They just make a thousand references and hope something ends up being popular.

They'll make a great dial and put it in a shitty case. They'll make a great sports watch case, but put a dress watch dial in it. They see the rest of the industry is going back to smaller, thinner watches, so they double-down on oversized shitters. They'll discontinue a watch, having no idea that it's popular, then release a shittier re-edition, and have no idea why people are complaining.

There's a reason that GS sales are flat and mid-level Seiko sales are being devoured by microbrands.

>> No.18015671

>>18015670
They are always one right decision away from greatness.

>> No.18015679

>>18015636
baste

>> No.18015683

Is it just me, or are used oceanus watches getting more expensive? I remember paying about $160 after shipping 3 years ago and now I just won an auction where I'm paying $170 pre shipping. Not to mention the yen is so fucking weak compared to then.

>> No.18015691

>>18015670
>There's a reason that GS sales are flat and mid-level Seiko sales are being devoured by microbrands.

That's two separate problems.

GS is pricing themselves out of the market without keeping up with the features that the upmarket brands have. When GS was priced at around TAG Heuer levels, it was a ridiculous bargain. Now that GS is Rolex-priced, it is ridiculously overpriced (and why you can get a 30% discount from the AD without even asking).

The Presages and Prospexes are being undercut by the microbrands because the microbrands actually listen to their customers and respond to feedback.

>> No.18015693
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>> No.18015694

>>18015683
three hands model? a sub $200 used oceanus is still ridiculously cheap though, also you need to consider the inflation.

>> No.18015695

>>18015694
Yes inflation is really bad.. especially here in italy. Google preggo inflation if u want to know more

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>>18015695
>preggo inflation
Yes, I think I would like to know more.

>> No.18015700

>>18015683
>>18015694
Inflation, the value of the yen vs the dollar or Euro, shipping costs and other supply chain issues could all account for an increase in price.
Or Casio might have simply raised the price like basically all the watch makers do every year.

>> No.18015702

>>18015700
>>18015694
>>18015683
>''NOOO THERE IS 15$ PRICE INCREASE''
the poor is big today

>> No.18015706

>>18015693
Wtf based

>> No.18015719

>>18015693
>Ferrari Porsche

>> No.18015725

>>18015424
nice endlinks bro

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>>18015424
Gold plated Weekdater.

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18015760

Been kind of wanting an anime related watch and just saw this get announced. Crown is a bit large though, and would have preferred mononoke over nausicaa but still pretty tempting

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18015764

>>18015760
>Been kind of wanting an anime related watch

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>>18015764
The back is better than the front. I get the why they used that symbol but hard for me to not just see a normal turtle in it

>> No.18015769

>>18015767
it looks like the 6r35...........................

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>>18015769
Specs say its 6R51, new version of 6R55. I'm not very familiar with seiko outside of hearing their normal offerings arent so great anymore, so seems kinda pricey for that but still tempting

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>>18015350
>there should be a special thread for precious metals rolex owners away from the plebs here
>two-tone Datejust
haha. hehehe. ohohohoho. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.18015777

>>18015772
it might be OK after regulating it I guess. But still, a very sub-par movement for that price, as always from seiko.

>> No.18015780

>>18015777
>But still, a very sub-par movement for that price, as always from seiko.
Yeah probably wont get it. Especially as ive been much more tempted to get a spring drive or other grand seiko offering as i love the white bitch and similar dials they have on offer so already will be dropping too much for just a watch.

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18015781

>>18015780
If you're looking at GS-money then yeah, we shouldn't even discuss about seiko.

>> No.18015785

>>18015093
Just go to a local grey market watch dealer and rent one if you really want to wear one. Though people might ask where your watch went after the event.

>> No.18015794

>>18015781
Well i'm pretty hesitant to spend that much on a watch, i told some friends/family i was considering it and they thought be a mid mad. GS is having an event at a local AD next week with free whiskey and sushi so going to take a look at the selection in person and see how i feel about them.

>> No.18015800

>>18015794
>mid mad
bit mad

>> No.18015801

>>18015217
>>18015181
There used to be talks and threads about furniture, I think it fits /fa/ since most people into high fashion are also into interior design, architecture and that sorts.

>> No.18015803

>>18015350
>calling other plebs
>two tone datejust
anon...

>> No.18015811

>>18015803
How is 2 tone for plebs? It's like 50% more money than steel.

>> No.18015815

>>18015811
Well it is a 4 digit watch isn't it?

>> No.18015822

>>18015794
My advice would be to first get a nice watch at around 1000-1500, see how you feel about it, wearing it often, maybe evn daily. Do that for a couple of months and then you'll know if you want to upgrade. Maybe it's not for you, who knows.
If you like it, then i'd say go get a GS. The problem with that, you will get used to the Grand seikos qualities like the finishing, the dial, the polishing, the accuracy- these are all very top notch with grand seiko, especially if you get a flagship model like the white birch. You'll get used to that and, from my experience, nothing below 15K will feel like an upgrade. The good part is that the bracelets are notoriously bad for the price, and the cases are usually on the thicker part, so there's that.
Don't do the same mistakes that I did and buy cheap-ish watches every month. You will end up wearing only 3-4 at the end anyway and these would most likely be your expensive ones.
Again, these are my honest thoughts and my pesonal experiences.

>> No.18015826

>>18015781
Even GS isn't worth it anymore.
Like >>18015691 said, they're really overpriced right now. They're making themselves into a joke. That's also why the gray market price on a watch like what you posted is like 5900 USD. Used they're around 4800-5000 USD.

No Seiko should cost more than 6000 USD unless it's got a lot of precious metal in it. Not until they address their numerous QC issues.

>> No.18015829

>>18015822
>My advice: conssoooooom consooooooooom!
Why don't you give him advice on how to get your wife to leave you? Or advice on how to be so boring you get friendzoned by a prostitute?

>> No.18015830

>>18015822
My most valuable watches are old breitlings and movados ive inherited, but i've only spent around $500 or less on a couple of mechanical watches and I like both of them. The main reason i dont wear more of my collection is that i life having the dial for marking start times of things like when i workout which they lack. What are some good options in the $1000-1500 range? I know GS has some options around $4-5k so ill look at those as well but not sure how ill feel about them.

>>18015826
>they're really overpriced right now
Are they though? Arent at least the spring drive among the best movements you can get? They're very accurate, fluid, and interesting and all hand made are they not? What really makes a rolex more worth the price tag?

>> No.18015832

Why do Grand Seiko fans all consider themselves experts on watch finishing? GS's finishing isn't actually that good. The only noteworthy thing they do is black polish parts of their cases, which is stupid because it turns them into scratch magnets.

Black polishing dial furniture is not unusual. Literally every other decent watch company does it. But then you look at GS's movements, and it's like looking at a Soviet truck engine.

>> No.18015837

>>18015829
>>My advice: conssoooooom consooooooooom!
I literally said the opposite.
>>18015830
>What are some good options in the $1000-1500 range?
First of all, what kind of watch do you want? A Chronograph?
At hat price range, I am not the right person to ask. At 2K and above, I can tell you.
>I know GS has some options around $4-5k
Yes they even got GMT's at that price range. But yeah, go to the event, see how you feel and then you'll know.
>>18015830
>Are they though?
They used to be cheaper, and once they became internationally available, they raised their prices.
You can't have an objective discussion about if a watch is worth it or not. Every brand has their own qualities. Nobody buys a rolex for the movement finishing and decoration for exmaple, no one. Rolex makes the best bezels on the market, at any price point and, wether you like it or not, the Brand Recognition itself is worth the price. GS has zero of that. But GS has other qualities like the one I mentioned. Spring Drive being one of them. But their new 9S (traditional mechanical) is also top of the line.
If you ask 10 people, you will get 10 different answers.

>> No.18015838

>>18015830
>Arent at least the spring drive among the best movements you can get?
Extremely debatable. If you're talking about serviceability, no, then they're awful, since only Seiko can work on it and Seiko's service department is notoriously bad.
They're not hand-made, either. They're machine made, like any movement made at industrial scale.

I'd say something like the Rolex 31xx series of movements is better. They are robust but thin, very accurate, and simple enough that any idiot watchmaker can work on them without royally fouling them up.

>What really makes a rolex more worth the price tag?
The market. We're talking about luxury goods. The monetary value is divorced from the intrinsic value of the thing. A Rolex is worth more because there are more people willing to pay more money for one than there are Rolexes to go around.

>> No.18015844

>>18015691
>Now that GS is Rolex-priced, it is ridiculously overpriced (and why you can get a 30% discount from the AD without even asking).
I don't get why some of you faggots think this shit should be seen as a monetary investment. They're expensive cool mechanical toys. Not the fucking stock market.

>> No.18015845

>>18015837
>If you ask 10 people, you will get 10 different answers.
Depends what you ask them.

If you ask a hundred people
>Do you know about Grand Seiko and do you have a favorite anime?
99 people will say "No, and what's anime?"
1 will say "Yes, and how much time do you have?"

>> No.18015847
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18015847

>>18015832
I disagree. This one is a low-mid range GS

>> No.18015850

>>18015845
>Depends what you ask them.
What makes a watch worth it.

>> No.18015851

>>18015837
>First of all, what kind of watch do you want?
Im mostly just looking for something simple with a white (or similar dial) which can be used for dress or daily.

>>18015838
>A Rolex is worth more because there are more people willing to pay more money for one than there are Rolexes to go around.
Then they arent actually worth the money. When i buy something i almost always intend to keep it, the resale value does not really factor into my opinion of it in most cases).

>> No.18015852

>>18015844
This is the attitude of someone who got fleeced trying to flip a watch.

Let me guess, you bought a Grand Seiko "at a discount" and realized it lost 1/3 of its value before you even re-sized the shitty bracelet.

>> No.18015853

>>18015832
?? I don't see what other watch makers in those price ranges are far better at finishing and decorating. Maybe GO.

>> No.18015854

>>18015845
>99 people will say "No, and what's anime?"
It's 2024, most people at least know what anime is. You're correct on the former though.

>> No.18015856

Do all seikos have green lume? I was looking at the poorfag guide and that SNK809 looks like it has blue lume, but every other pic I can find or it is green. Is it just a camera/angle thing?

https://www.creationwatches.com/products/seiko-mens-watches-208/seiko-5-automatic-snk809-snk809k1-snk809k-21-jewel-mens-watch-1905.html

looks like a breddy damn good deal desu.

>> No.18015858

>>18015847
You don't have to agree or disagree. The movement finishing on the example you showed is Omega tier at best.
I think you're confusing unique bridge shapes with "finishing"

>> No.18015863

>>18015858
not that anon, but what do you mean by finishing? The attention to details? The tolerances at all points? Materials and design? Something else?

>> No.18015865

>>18015853
I guess every website, reviewer, youtube and millionaire is wrong about grand seiko and people here at /wt/ are the ones who are right.
>>18015851
>which can be used for dress or daily.
My nigga at 1500€ there are quite a few options I guess for a simple daily. Starting from the Orient Bambino and going up to Cristopher Ward? I usually don't recommend anything with the 6R35 movement, but do you know about the Seiko alpinist? they go for 700dollaritos. But PLEASE be sure to regulate the movement once you get it. Seiko has horrible quality control out the facotry. They slap them onto watches and hope for the best.
many would also recommend you the Tissot PRX but the movement on that on is also a bit bad.
There is also the Hamilton Khaki, or anything Mido, really. Mabye even some cheaper Longines? Maybe frederique constant?
if you can go slightly higher, then a HOMOS (NOMOS) is probably the best bang for your buck on the market, especially when it comes to movement finishing. It's all in-house btw at HOMOS

>> No.18015867

>>18015853
GO definitely, JLC definitely, Chopard's LUC line, Cartier, etc. Some of the cheaper Blancpain's cost what some of the more expensive GS's cost.

>> No.18015868
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18015868

>>18015856
>Do all seikos have green lume?
My Prospex (garbage watch) has blue.

>> No.18015872

>>18015863
Not him either but it's probably the perlage, heated screws, geneve stripes, anglage, how skeletonized it is, if the rotor is decorated, engraving maybe etc.
But people, like myself, confuse finishing with decorating. So I don't know.
>>18015858
> Omega tier at best.
Well then, how does rolex finsih their movements at below 10K?

>> No.18015876

>>18015865
>Orient Bambino
You said 1k-1.5k, ive already been considering the bambino as i have the kanno and like it, but i figured if im going to get a dress watch maybe i should get a nice one. I havent looked at nomos at all so ill give them a look.
>But PLEASE be sure to regulate the movement once you get it
what do you mean by this?

>>18015872
>but it's probably the perlage, heated screws, geneve stripes, anglage, how skeletonized it is, if the rotor is decorated, engraving maybe etc.
I dont really even know what most of this means, i just see a nice looking watch and see what kind of accuracy they specify and other basic things.

>> No.18015877
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18015877

>>18015867
I guess let's agree to disagree. GO has better movement finishing, by far even, but not the dial. And I disagree with JLC and especially cartier. I spend too much time with Super Macro lenses looking at dials. Haven't found anything yet close to my SLGA009. I got a super macor pic of a 4K cartier watch, sec.

>> No.18015879

>>18015863
>not that anon, but what do you mean by finishing? The attention to details? The tolerances at all points? Materials and design? Something else?

It's not material or design. It's everything else.

With the movement, they should bevel every bridge and plate, then polish the bevel, jewels should be countersunk and polished. Screws should be polished or chemically blued. Baseplates should be perlaged. Bridges should be given geneva stripes, barrels given a sunray finish.
The dial furniture and the hands should be polished or frosted, lume applied evenly. If blued, they should be chemically blued, not lacquered. The printing should be even.
The case polishing should be smooth, with sharp creases at the edges. If there's brushing, it should be tight, smooth, and evenly grained.
The bracelet should be finished as well as the case.

Shit like that. The best companies still do it by hand and deliberately choose finishes that are hard to do because it shows off their workmanship.
They also finish the parts that no one will ever see, out of professional pride.

>> No.18015882

>>18015877
>>18015867
granted, that's not Super macro, just macro, but compare it to the GS I posted here. >>18015781
the price is very close.

>> No.18015883

>>18015879
>They also finish the parts that no one will ever see, out of professional pride.
So how are you even supposed to judge a lot of the finishing without doing extensive research?

>> No.18015886
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18015886

>>18015876
I know you said many times taht 1.5K is your limit, but at 2K you can get a Credor, but quartz.
Another heads up, don't listen to me, I am weeb.

>> No.18015887

>>18015877
No, you're just wrong because you've decided to make "GS finishing" your whole personality that if some other company does better finishing, it's like a personal attack on you.

GS does dial indices and hands very well. It does case polishing very well. Brushing...not so well but still good. Dial texture is not finishing. That's design. Anyone can do it. It's not hard. No one else wants to do it.
Their movement finishing is industrial.

You may spend a lot of time with macro lenses, but the problem is you don't know what you're looking at. You're just trying to look for ways you think your GS is better.

>> No.18015890

>>18015886
I never said 1.5k is my limit, perhaps that was another anon. I can swing 10k on a watch, i have the money, it just does feel a bit silly when i think about it but at the same time i do want one. Ill get judged by my friends and family for spending so much on a watch instead of travelling or doing more investing but i dont have much of any interest in travelling (outside going to japan but not really in the mood for it currently) and I have a relatively good amount of invested money.

>> No.18015892

>>18015883
By doing extensive research, this is a hobby after all, you can learn and read stuff even if you are not going to buy.Sometimes you can see somewhere a review with pictures and stuff. I can't see what it is inside of my watch, but I can google and see the entire movement dissasembled if I want.

>> No.18015893

>>18015029
ARTOSIS?

>> No.18015895

>>18015893
kek

>> No.18015897

>>18015883
>So how are you even supposed to judge a lot of the finishing without doing extensive research?
You can't. Honestly, you can't.
If I took you to a restaurant and bought you a dish you'd never tried before, how could you say it's excellent? You couldn't, but you'd feel better if you enjoyed it and then I told you that it was of excellent quality.

That's what Seiko's marketing department has done with GS. They saw a niche in the market that no one else was occupying. "Our watches are the best finished!!" Was it true? Of course not, but buyers looked around and noticed that no one else was talking about their finishing, so ... well, I guess no one is calling Seiko out, so it must be true.

The best way to learn about finishing isn't by looking at pictures, it's by actually taking a watch apart and seeing what the watchmaker did on the underside of all the plates. Then you can appreciate the hand craft.

>> No.18015898
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18015898

>>18015887
>Dial texture is not finishing.
Yeah I meant the markers mainly, sorry had to clarify. I know the texture isn't finishing.
>Their movement finishing is industrial.
I can't reall disagree with that. Let's just say that recently they have started putting at least Some effort into them.
>but the problem is you don't know what you're looking at.
Well look at the 5K hands and markers on my tudor for example. You see the imperfections right? On the snowflake/hour hand it's especially visible. I am sorry but the hands on my presage are better. But obviously I did not buy a Tudor for the dial or the finishing.
> You're just trying to look for ways you think your GS is better.
You have no idea with how little expectations I started to look into the detail on the GS. i was expecting Tudor-Level considering they are similarly priced. I was very pleasently surprised, that's why I sperg out.
>it's like a personal attack on you.
It isn't, we are discussing here and I am learning something just by writing with you. I appreciate it that you take the time to have a simple discussion like that.

>> No.18015900

>>18015892
>I can google and see the entire movement dissasembled if I want.
but how much do you really understand this? I'm new to the hobby of watches and to me it's more just the only acceptable male jewelry/accessory and that is part of why i have been getting into them. I'm no watch maker or mechanical engineer so i find it hard to judge a movement just by looking at it beyond one being more complicated and having more moving parts than another (which doesnt even really mean its superior).

>> No.18015901
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18015901

>>18015898
>>18015887

>> No.18015902

>>18015897
>That's what Seiko's marketing department has done with GS. They saw a niche in the market that no one else was occupying.
To add to this, everyone does stuff like this.

That's what Rolex did with chronometers. Chronometer is a legal thing. It's not useful for a normal person. If your watch is accurate, you don't need a government certificate saying so.
But because Rolex made a big deal of their watches all being chronometers, buyers started equating "no chronometer" with "inaccurate".

Omega did it with their coaxial escapement. No normal person knows what the fuck an escapement is...but these ones are coaxial, they must be better. Why else would they advertise them?

>> No.18015903
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18015903

>>18015868
Well at least they do blue on some models. But this 809 looks blue to my eye. I'm not colour blind, maybe it's just my monitor. Really tempted to pick it up as babbys first automatic because that price is shockingly low.

>> No.18015904
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18015904

>>18015900
Check out a Lange & Söhne movements, Philippe Dufour, FP Journe, and higher end Credors.
There is something that's called Anglage, and you only get that with very expensive watches. To me, that's peak finishing.
PD is the best, universally agreed upon, at anglage. I am a weeb so I have to say that Credor are the second best.

>> No.18015907

>>18015903
I like the look of this one

>>18015904
>Lange & Söhne movements, Philippe Dufour, FP Journe, and higher end Credors.
Arent these all start at 6 digit prices, or at least high 5s? That's a completely different thing than a grand seiko for $9k. Unless i'm mistaken and have just not seen their 'cheaper' offerings

>> No.18015909

>>18015900
You don't need to understand a lot, just watch some watchmaker videos, and if you can,how watch movements are made, sometimes you can see how they make the finishing, and then you can start appreciating the details.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U005_iEAa_A

>> No.18015910
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18015910

>>18015903
Seiko bros.... we got another one.
>>18015876
>what do you mean by this?
Regulating the movement or just, tweeking it I guess to bring it up to spec. Make it accurate. These two levers, market 1 and 2, they control the speed and beat of the movement. There are videos on how to do it yourself. I never did ti myself so I don't know if it is hard or not, many anons calim it is easy. If your watch is udner warranty, which it Will be consdiering it's new, then just send it back after a week for them to regulate it. youw ill most likely gain or lose and enitre minute per day with the 6R35 out from the factory. After regulating it, I only gain 6 seconds per day which is very acceptable.

>> No.18015913
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18015913

>>18015882
forgot the pic of the cartier.

>> No.18015914

>>18015904
>To me, that's peak finishing.
This is the point that >>18015897 was making. You don't know what's peak finishing. You've only been told that it's peak finishing. Watchmaking is such a specialized skill that you can't speak to what they're doing without diving in and getting some experience.
Something that looks really impressive could actually be quite simple like, for example, zaratsu polishing.

If you really want to geek out about finishing, they have classes all over the place where they teach you.

>> No.18015915

>>18015907
>That's a completely different thing than a grand seiko for $9k.
Yeah that wasn't my point, I just wanted to show you what/how a masterfully finished movement looks like, to give you an idea.

>> No.18015918

>>18015914
>If you really want to geek out about finishing, they have classes all over the place where they teach you.
where do I start?

>> No.18015919

>>18015832
>Why do Grand Seiko fans all consider themselves experts on watch finishing?

kek that's really what is, isn't it? it's like JLC owners all becoming experts on movement design the minute after they buy their first reverso.

>> No.18015920

>>18015900

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2MpR0LtzEY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZE-ORTurSY

>> No.18015921

>>18015918
>where do I start?
well, google. find a class. then pay to join it. then try not to get yourself kicked out by posting pictures where you forget to blur out everyone else's face except your own.

>> No.18015925

>>18015921
>then try not to get yourself kicked out by posting pictures where you forget to blur out everyone else's face except your own.
kek, come on that only happened once per accident. And the grandpa was... okay yeah that one is on me.
> find a class
there has to be something in Glashütte I guess. Maybe I still have time before I leave. Thanks for the tip.

>> No.18015929

https://www.casio.com/us/watches/casio/product.TRN-50-2A/
Casiotron reissue preorders are up

>> No.18015930
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18015930

Citizen
Eco-Drive

>> No.18015931

>>18015930
HOLY BASED

>> No.18015936

>>18015909
>>18015920
thanks for sharing these vids.

>> No.18015937

>>18015915
>I just wanted to show you what/how a masterfully finished movement looks like, to give you an idea
But how masterful are these? Are they just complicated and intricate for the sake of it but are delicate and easily susceptible to having issues? To me a masterful watch is one that keeps time as accurately as possible while being as robust as possible. Having a ton of moving parts is neat but it's hard to say that is better than a watch that keeps good times and can go decades with little to no maintenance, that is something i would consider a masterpiece.

>> No.18015938

>>18015913
How do they get away with charging so much for printed dial watches?

>> No.18015940

>>18015938
I don't know. But people buy them, so. At least the hands are blue heated.

>> No.18015944

>>18015645
Is this style of bracelet really a thing that anybody has ever liked?

>> No.18015948

>>18015937
>But how masterful are these? Are they just complicated and intricate for the sake of it but are delicate and easily susceptible to having issues? To me a masterful watch is one that keeps time as accurately as possible while being as robust as possible. Having a ton of moving parts is neat but it's hard to say that is better than a watch that keeps good times and can go decades with little to no maintenance, that is something i would consider a masterpiece.

There are a lot of different ways to express mastery. What Rolex does, for example, is incredible in industrial engineering terms. Their watches are 100% machine made. The only watchmaking job left at Rolex is gemsetting for the watches with precious stones.
George Daniels' watches are neat to look at but aren't amazing until you realize that he made every single part, from springs to screws to the case, himself by hand.
Philippe Dufour outsources most of his cases and dials, but hand finishes every last piece by hand to perfection.

>> No.18015950

>>18014462
what watch does bitteranon own?

>> No.18015953

>>18015950
probably doesnt have one.

>> No.18015954

>>18015944
I think they were popular in the 50s and 60s.

>> No.18015956

>>18015950
>what watch does bitteranon own?
He posted a crap Breitling once. He was shitteranon for a little bit after that.

>> No.18015957

>>18015950
Some random Breitling I think. Possibly even one from their dark age.

>> No.18015958

>>18015956
>crap Breitling
I thought breitlings were at least somewhat decent

>>18015957
when was their dark age?

>> No.18015959

>>18015944
milaneses are comfy as fuck. I wore my casio royale with a milanese for a long time and now that bad is on another watch.

>> No.18015960

>>18015958
>I thought breitlings were at least somewhat decent
This one was an entry level model that he clearly bought used and it looked like it was beaten half-to-death.

>when was their dark age?
The 2000s when everything they made was garish, oversized and indifferently polished.

>> No.18015968

>>18015950
One has at least two grand seikos, one has a breitling

>> No.18015975

>>18015968
>One has at least two grand seikos
the one with the two quartz ones? If he really is bitteranon then it is extra sad because he looked to be around 45-50 judging from the pigments on his hand.

>> No.18015980

>>18015975
Isnt' 40-50 the most bitter time for a man if doesnt have a family (or not a good one)?

>> No.18015982

>>18015980
well touche, I guess you're right.

>> No.18015983

>>18015975
>>18015968
That one just exclusively has a grudge against Citizen for no reason whatsoever.

>> No.18015986
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18015986

>> No.18015988

>>18015983
It's because citizen has more accurate quartz watches

>> No.18015990

>>18015986
Damn. Love the texture on the dial.

>> No.18015991

>>18015986
okay i usually like simple but this thing is downright cool. What model is this?

>> No.18015992

>>18015975
He's the fucker who posts the lists and the "watchhookah" pic.

>> No.18015993

>>18015986
The only modern Omega I adore. Wish it was 40mm tho.

>> No.18015996

>>18015993
h-how big is it?
>>18015992
I am to blame for that pic, no doubt, but he is to blame for keeping it alive and circulating. No one would remember it if he didn't spam it so often.

>> No.18015997

>>18015996
43mm

>> No.18015999

>>18015991
I usually like simple too. But once I saw it in person, I had to have it

You can find the info here

https://www.omegawatches.com/en-us/watch-omega-seamaster-aqua-terra-150m-co-axial-master-chronometer-gmt-worldtimer-43-mm-22010432203001

>> No.18016003

>>18015999
I'd like to see this in person but i doubt i'd be able to find on in my city/state

>> No.18016011
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18016011

Erwin Sattler.

>> No.18016023
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18016023

Moritz Grossmann

>> No.18016034

>>18016011
That’s nice

>>18016023
That’s groce

>> No.18016039

>>18015992
>He's the fucker who posts the lists and the "watchhookah" pic.
That's bittercel. He's a different bitteranon.

The original bitteranon hates OmegaDrunk. The Brazilian hates Mortadello, but that's before the term bitteranon was coined.
Bittercel hates Whoretadello. He's the one who posts the images.

>> No.18016041

>>18016023
This is very odd.

>> No.18016043

>>18016023
>>18016034
Making heat-blued hands purple is really challenging. The fail rate on those must be huge.

>> No.18016045

>>18016043
Why? It's just a bit hotter/colder than blue ones.

>> No.18016056

NEW
NEW
NEW
>>18016055
>>18016055
>>18016055

>> No.18016057

>>18016045
Getting an even color is the hard part. You don't want it to be blotchy. That's why most companies, like Seiko or Omega, just lacquer or PVD their hands.

>> No.18016060

>>18016057
Now i want a watch with a heat-purpled case, dial, hands and markers.

>> No.18016063

>>18016060
Crown and bracelet as well. The sapphire should be purple too, and the movement as well. Chop chop!

>> No.18016122

>>18015996
>I'm to blame for the pic
>he's to blame for keeping it alive
Oh fuck you. There would be nothing to keep alive if you weren't such a narcissistic shitposting faggot.

>> No.18016220
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18016220

>>18015930
Dude, nice

>> No.18016406
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18016406

Wore this at my engagement party

>> No.18016429

>>18016220
>>18015930
>>18015522
What exact version of eco drive is this? Can't find it despite searching for 15 min.

>> No.18016511

>>18016429
ar3015

>> No.18016598

>>18016511
Thank you. Have a nice day and an even nicer life.