/btg/ boot general

[Anonymous No.18013850]

/btg/ BOOT GENERAL - PREORDER FOR THE SUMMER EDITION

What do I need to care for my boots?
>Old cotton t shirt (one for cleaning, another for applying conditioners)
>Horsehair brush ($10-15)
>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)
>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bck4/renovateur
>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP
>Don't forget that boots need time to dry properly, rotate them an

How do I deal with x stain?
>mud: allow it to dry then brush off
>salt: water and cloth as soon as possible
>saturated wet: allow the boot to dry for a full day, stuff with newspaper
>scuffs and scratches: buff vigorously with horsehair brush

>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?
No they are filled with synthetic materials aimed at instant comfort but will not hold up to actual use.
>b-b-but muh ecelebs on youtube said they're good
no. you will waste your time and money and still have uncomfortable footwear at the end of the day. spend the extra $100 and get something real.

Manufacturer Red Flags
>Luxury
>Bespoke
>Sustainable
>Vegan
>Unknown leather source
>Made in Chyna/Mexico/Indonesia

Boot Red Flags
>Dainite (Get vibram v-bar instead)
>C*rk/C*lastic
>Zippers
>Non gusseted tongues
>Excessive/unnecessary seams
>Combination/mixed material heels

Boot Brands NO
>Turdsdays
>Doc Shitters/Soloshitters
>any Whatsapp makers in the far east

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[Anonymous No.18013865]

I WANT ROPERS MAN

[Anonymous No.18013870]

>>18013850
>boot general picture is of a shoe
>half of the OP is incorrect and built around one autist's preferences
Might as well just give it up. It's over.

[Anonymous No.18013938]

>>18013870
honestly lol. first time checking on this gen in a while and it's somehow worse

[Anonymous No.18013954]

>>18013870
feel free to write a better OP

[Anonymous No.18013974]

.

[Anonymous No.18013986]

>>18013974
sick converse bro

[Anonymous No.18013999]

>>18013699
Correct. He only replaced the midsole because it was originally synthetic. Now that it's leather it won't need replacing again. It will still be more expensive than $60 because Bedos is expensive. But he is actually my local cobbler, and he is world class, so it's worth it for me not to have to ship them somewhere and worry about that.

[Anonymous No.18014017]

[Anonymous No.18014018]

>>18014017
is there a flood?

[Anonymous No.18014042]

>/btg/ has entered its lace to toe phase
Cringe. CRINGE!

[Anonymous No.18014070]

>>18014017
lace to toes are so fucking hideous

[Anonymous No.18014089]

[Anonymous No.18014091]

>>18014089
very tight pants

[Anonymous No.18014094]

>>18014091
Weirdly stacked as well.

[Anonymous No.18014140]

Frank's running a sale on seconds boots

[Anonymous No.18014142]

>>18014089
Bit gay, innit?

[Anonymous No.18014144]

>>18014089
the commando tread cheapens the look

[Anonymous No.18014145]

>>18014140
Fuck off Francis

[Anonymous No.18014146]

>>18014145
fuck you shuyler you cunt fuck

[Anonymous No.18014147]

>>18014144
Good point. They’re all in for trad leather, not having a leather sole seems like a joke.

[Anonymous No.18014165]

Imagine being so gay you don't inherently want a lugged boot. Might as well wear chelseas.

[Anonymous No.18014166]

lugged boot is good

lugged boot while trying to be sleek is not

[Anonymous No.18014168]

>>18014166
430 mini lug is based

[Anonymous No.18014179]

I'm in the market for a pair of shell cordovan shoes. I plan on buying them to pair with my wedding suit, but I am wanting to get something that I can wear in the future with my "dressy casual" outfits. Currently I am leaning toward Alden's plain toe bluchers, but I was wondering if anyone has any experience with these. If you all have different suggestions, I would prefer shell cordovan and no cap toes

[Anonymous No.18014185]

>>18014179
how much time do you have? if at least 4 months i will shill for getting an enzo bonafe mto. you can customize almost everything you want and they have a massive selection of styles to choose from.

[Anonymous No.18014186]

>>18014166
Looks fine. If you want a dress shoe, buy a shoe not a boot.

[Anonymous No.18014193]

>>18014179
if you're a burger the Alden PTB is unrivaled

different story if you're a europoor

[Anonymous No.18014197]

Trickers outlet is having a flash sale right now. Their 4497 and 4444 lasts are really narrow despite of what they say but the quality is great.

I'll be selling 3 or 4 pairs of boots in the near future, all size 11 UK so if you're interested check grailed in a couple of days

[Anonymous No.18014203]

>>18014197
i'm impressed if you can actually sell stuff there. i've tried to put stuff up for very reasonable prices but it never goes anywhere. just ebay now, even if they take a large cut, because it's easier.

[Anonymous No.18014205]

>>18014185
Unfortunately I have 3 months left, so I can't really afford to wait for a pair of MTO

>>18014193
Yeah, I really dig the shape of the last. Not too narrow or dressy in the toe, hence why I want to use it in the future for more casual fits

[Anonymous No.18014208]

>>18014205
have you looked at their longwings?

[Anonymous No.18014213]

>>18014208
Not really into all the broguing, too dressy

[Anonymous No.18014218]

>>18014213
>broguing
>dressy

[Anonymous No.18014219]

>>18014203
I've actually sold all the pairs I wanted to sell in grailed, had to list them every week in leddit but eventually I sold them. I took a loss of course but I didn't gave them away.

Pic is my current collection. Except for the pairs I've already selected to sell. Gotta take pictures tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.18014221]

>>18014219
Forgot pic

[Anonymous No.18014275]

>>18014218
It's ornamental, therefore dressy.

[Anonymous No.18014277]

>>18013865
get some lofgrens, roperschizo

[Anonymous No.18014283]

>>18014277
The reason he's a schizo is because they have to be budget and made in Europe so he doesn't have to pay import taxes on them.
Basically, he's looking for extraterrestrial life.

[Anonymous No.18014328]

>>18014275
it originates as drain holes for field shoes, therefore not dressy.

[Anonymous No.18014333]

Should boots touch the side of your toes? Immy toes don’t hit the front but the sides rub abit. Is this normal?

[Anonymous No.18014345]

>>18014333
not at all

[Anonymous No.18014358]

>>18014283
His toilet cleaning pay barely covers his cuck tribute to saladin railing his girl, else he would have just gone to a custom bootmaker already.

[Anonymous No.18014424]

redpill me on jim greens

[Anonymous No.18014427]

>>18014277
These look like ass though. Girly as hell.
>>18014283
Take your meds.
>>18014358
Nobody asked about your fetishes.

[Anonymous No.18014429]

whats the paupers version of redwings? the leather can be rabid dog skin for all i care, so long as its under 200
>t. was considering thursdays president boots but has been put off by the op

[Anonymous No.18014513]

Are Frank's Boots and Wesco good? What about Viberg? I know White's and Nicks are cash grab scams now…

[Anonymous No.18014521]

>>18014429
Red Wing factory 2nds

[Anonymous No.18014522]

>>18014513
>Are Frank's Boots
looks like good value
>Wesco
no
>What about Viberg
by far the best out of the bunch.

[Anonymous No.18014536]

>>18014328
No one cares what it originated from, you autistic fuck.

[Anonymous No.18014568]

Love my belleville

[Anonymous No.18014581]

>>18014568
Post webm of you stomping on that black baby doll with your Bellevilles. As proof of ownership of course.

[Anonymous No.18014594]

>>18014581
I love that doll :(

[Anonymous No.18014596]

bought these for 50e + new laces
bw ks2005

[Anonymous No.18014602]

>>18014427
>n-no u
Concession noted.

[Anonymous No.18014621]

[Anonymous No.18014626]

>foam as GYW cavity filler
>shank caked in hot glue
nice one Viberg, truly the best in the game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz31Rrun4lE&t=215
wedge soles really need that additional shock absorption and instant comfort(tm) from disintegrating foam synthetics on the inside

[Anonymous No.18014631]

>>18014621
>point illustrated
>concession received

[Anonymous No.18014667]

>>18014626
>>foam as GYW cavity filler
sounds comfortable
>>shank caked in hot glue
makes it more secure, great!

[Anonymous No.18014668]

>>18014345
What about loafers?

[Anonymous No.18014671]

>be mad
>get hit with the virgin bubble
>get more mad

[Anonymous No.18014675]

>>18014626
Foam v cork is an argument I could get behind but you're just looking for reasons to bitch with the glue.

[Anonymous No.18014692]

>>18014671
>y-you mad bro
Sure, seether.

[Anonymous No.18014693]

[Anonymous No.18014694]

>>18014626
With how dreadful the White's shank squeak is. I thank Viberg for securing their shank like that.

[Anonymous No.18014698]

Boots 4 summer pls?

[Anonymous No.18014710]

>file deleted

[Anonymous No.18014713]

>>18014698
handsewn mocs like in the OP

[Anonymous No.18014720]

>>18014698
shearling lined chelsea boots

[Anonymous No.18014727]

>>18014698
Jungle boots or hot weather tactical boots.

[Anonymous No.18014756]

>>18014536
except that's what separates casual clothes from formal clothes you inbred moran.
brogued shoes are, objectively, less formal than non brogued shoes.

[Anonymous No.18014764]

>>18014756
I'm sorry that you're so mad about being proven wrong, but restating the wrong thing you said won't make it right. I get that you're from a shit country and you don't understand that better countries than yours have settled the subject, but you really need to learn to be quiet when your betters have just told you how the world works. More ornamentation is inherently less casual.

[Anonymous No.18014768]

>>18014764
itt: putting charms and Jibbitz™ on your crocs makes them formalwear.

[Anonymous No.18014769]

>>18014768
Intellectually dishonest post. You've dishonored your parents.

[Anonymous No.18014773]

Looks like UGG boots (the real Australian kind, not the fake American (made in china) kind)

[Anonymous No.18014778]

>>18014769
you're the one who said ornamentation is "inherently" less casual.
don't get butthurt when you're proven wrong.

[Anonymous No.18014780]

>>18014778
>continuing to dishonor his parents
You really are the dregs.

[Anonymous No.18014818]

>>18014756
>brogued shoes are, objectively, less formal than non brogued shoes.
in theory but in practice most people dont know what formal is and will see a ptb as less dressy than a longwing

[Anonymous No.18014900]

>>18014773
Ment for >>18014568

[Anonymous No.18014906]

are new rocks actually good or did i fall for instagram comments

[Anonymous No.18014919]

>>18014906

[Anonymous No.18014924]

>>18014906
>new rock
you looked at that shit and needed to ask?
brother...

[Anonymous No.18015028]

>>18014429
Jim Greens 110%, they're great boots too, use you own insole though.

[Anonymous No.18015040]

>>18014698
Frank's Patriot.

[Anonymous No.18015051]

[Anonymous No.18015167]

Behold… the finest boot India has to offer.

[Anonymous No.18015168]

>>18014429
red wing what? the 875 or the IR?

[Anonymous No.18015175]

>>18015028
Jim Green is the choice if you actually like to wear your boots

[Anonymous No.18015209]

i found these loake chukkas in dark brown suede for 15 bucks at a goodwill. dunno if it's the 1880 line but seems like a good deal since there's nothing wrong with them other than some minimal wear and they had no laces

[Anonymous No.18015254]

>>18014756
>>18014768
I don't think you realize how autistic you sound. So I'm just letting you know, this is why you have no friends or intimate connections. Work on your mannerisms and stop being an insufferable cunt and you'll be much happier in life

[Anonymous No.18015256]

>>18013850
Why won’t they fucking restock reeeeee

[Anonymous No.18015263]

[Anonymous No.18015264]

[Anonymous No.18015265]

>>18015175
What's the sizing like on these? I heard they run TTS and I'm pretty much just short of 11.5 US.

[Anonymous No.18015266]

>>18015265
Like a normal boot, half size down from Brannock.

[Anonymous No.18015273]

>>18015265
I followed their sizing chart; my foot measured a little over 29cm so I got a UK size 11. Fits perfectly for me.
Everyone says they are wide, but I don't own any other boot (except motorcycle boots) so I can't compare.
Feels very natural to me, my feet don't feel like they're being bent out of shape.

[Anonymous No.18015278]

>>18015266
I always do full down from brannock?

[Anonymous No.18015283]

>>18015278
>I always do full down from brannock?
Well, if that works for you it's fine.
Internet says half size.

[Anonymous No.18015285]

>>18015278
I always get my exact brannock. Fits fine for me

[Anonymous No.18015286]

Boots for someone suffering from bunions? Roomy toebox but still effay. Is it possible? Or is it over?

[Anonymous No.18015287]

>>18015283
>>18015285
I usually wear very thin socks with my boots. Might explain why.

[Anonymous No.18015289]

>>18015286
Jim Green Vellies.

[Anonymous No.18015290]

>>18015289
TTS?

[Anonymous No.18015291]

>>18015290
For boots yes, half size down from brannock like normal.

[Anonymous No.18015293]

>>18015291
Thanks fren

[Anonymous No.18015451]

My two biggest pet peeves regarding boots are:
1) cork filler in soles
2) pointy toes on 99% of European boots

Simple as

[Anonymous No.18015497]

>>18013850
>Light conditioner like Lexol
Is lexol still the recommended light conditioner for leather? I've used it for years and have a bottle of the old one still as I believe they changed the formula and outsourced to china which pissed off a lot of people. Anything else that should be considered? I liked lexol because it didn't seem to darken lighter leathers unlike virtually everything else I've tried. That bottle won't last forever and I'd like an alternative.

Also, is pic related still recommended as a light coat on shell? I used to use it and then some of that re-bottled windex that is Alden's Leather Defender to guard against those water blister things. Seemed to work.

[Anonymous No.18015620]

>>18015497
Lexol is for leather sofa.

Venetian is a light conditioner that mostly is to restore the shine.

[Anonymous No.18015639]

>>18015620
Then what's good for dry leather boots?

[Anonymous No.18015644]

>>18013850
When is shoepassion gonna restock these?

[Anonymous No.18015677]

>>18015639
How dry are we talking about?
I mostly use Renovateur because Im not poor.
Do not use Lexol as they contain silicone.

[Anonymous No.18015710]

>>18015639
Obenaufs. It will darken leather though. Bick 4 is like the go to recommendation for conditioner other than sapphir.

[Anonymous No.18015746]

>>18015644
you should email them and ask

[Anonymous No.18015750]

>>18015644
Model name?

[Anonymous No.18015751]

>>18013850
I'm done with Rancourt, their lasts simply don't work for my feet. And for some reason many of their new offerings only come in their pathetically narrow D width

[Anonymous No.18015752]

>>18015497
the way its structured is that lexol/bick4 (widely available) if you're poor, reno if you're not

[Anonymous No.18015782]

is there any way to make sparay conditioner?
would mixing a little reno with some water in a spray bottle work?

[Anonymous No.18015784]

>>18015782
saphir sells spray conditioner for suede

[Anonymous No.18015791]

>>18015784
yes but I cba to buy it and it technically isn't suede
it's elk and it's between smooth and nappy depending on the area. toecap and tongue is smooth, vamp is semi smooth and quarters are fuzzy

[Anonymous No.18015799]

>>18015791
>it's elk and it's between smooth and nappy depending on the area. toecap and tongue is smooth, vamp is semi smooth and quarters are fuzzy
pics? sounds interesting

[Anonymous No.18015939]

>>18015677
I meant to say Do not use Bick 4

[Anonymous No.18015974]

just copped these how'd i do?

[Anonymous No.18016027]

>>18015751
i gave up after 2 failed pre-orders. used their sizing guide and talked to them but the fit was off on the first one. they took them back but didn't have my size in stock and couldn't make another pair so i decided to try another pre-order on the credit. next one was 4 months later than the estimated delivery time and when i finally got it the stitching on the toe was completely fucked with 2 extra holes punched through the leather that let water in. i just got a refund on this one and moved on. idk if it's still like this but they were dabbling with cottage industry shit at the time and i feel like that's how i got screwed.

[Anonymous No.18016150]

>>18015974
your journey has begun sprained clavicle. you must enter the desert and convene with the gods

[Anonymous No.18016203]

>>18015974
very good, you will be fast and silent

[Anonymous No.18016207]

Is Loake any good compared to the other UK Shoemakers? Looking to buy this pair as new and came across it used, is this a good example of how nubuck should age?

[Anonymous No.18016248]

>>18016207
those look glued

[Anonymous No.18016261]

>>18014768
That's not ornamentation. That's putting trash on your shoes. Completely different.

[Anonymous No.18016274]

>>18015939
Bick 4 contains like a drop of silicone for an enire bottle. It's just an anti-coagulant. It's a good conditioner that doesn't change the color of leather.

[Anonymous No.18016295]

Just ordered a pair of iron rangers. What am I in for?

[Anonymous No.18016296]

>>18016295
a very casual boot with maybe a difficult break in.

[Anonymous No.18016302]

>>18016296
>casual
Well yeah, it’s a boot

[Anonymous No.18016303]

>>18016302
not taking it

[Anonymous No.18016304]

>>18016295
wear thick wool socks

[Anonymous No.18016308]

>>18016303
What in the name of TJ max is a formal boot? Is that some kind of backwater southern thing? “These here are my church boots!” *spits*

[Anonymous No.18016310]

>>18016308

[Anonymous No.18016336]

Reminder: if you’re scrawny, you look awkward in boots

[Anonymous No.18016361]

[Anonymous No.18016363]

>>18016027
My ranger moc is fine quality wise but the fit is borderline terrible. They're just like Allen Edmonds where the heel is gaping wide and the instep and toe crush your foot. Tried different sizes and this fit was the least bad.

[Anonymous No.18016366]

>>18016295
>Ordered blind without trying on at the store
Get ready to send them back.

[Anonymous No.18016377]

>>18016295
Good boots for the price. I like their mocs more because they are even cheaper.

[Anonymous No.18016533]

>>18016274
Slow leather death.
>doesn’t change the color of leather
So is a myriad of other conditioners that do not contain silicone.

[Anonymous No.18016586]

>>18016336
the cheat for this is wide legged jeans

[Anonymous No.18016610]

>>18016308
People wear formal boots before you are born.
Why are zoomers brainwashed into thinking boots MUST be work boots.

[Anonymous No.18016708]

Goodyear welt (or at least something durable) Oxford/Derby shoes in Europe for around 100€?

[Anonymous No.18016731]

I think some anon here thought about Tarnsjo shoes or boots?
https://www.skoaktiebolaget.com/collections/sale/products/enzo-bonafe-longwing-tarnsjo-grain
UK10.5, thought about it myself, but not too interested.

[Anonymous No.18016786]

>>18016708
>for around 100€
goodwill

[Anonymous No.18016793]

>>18016786
yeah, that's what I thought.

Been trying to find some from Portugal... Most the cheaper ones are Blake construction which I'm not so sure about.

[Anonymous No.18016949]

>>18014429
eastlands

[Anonymous No.18016954]

parkhurst just dropped some premium horse ass

[Anonymous No.18016989]

>>18013850
Does this look retarded

[Anonymous No.18016995]

>>18016989
Yes, clean your filthy mirror, retard.

[Anonymous No.18017007]

>>18016995
sorry

[Anonymous No.18017012]

>>18016954
Anyone else sees that Parkhurst pattern is goofy looking?

[Anonymous No.18017048]

>>18017012
it used to look better desu. the boots started looking off after the move to spain

[Anonymous No.18017084]

>>18017012
Parkhurst, GS, and OSB are all goofy looking in a milquetoast AI designed boot kind of way. There's no personality to any of their stuff

[Anonymous No.18017100]

>>18016731
That was me, and I saw this at work.
It's my size but I don't like the big welt

Also sold out now

I did think about buying a Lof & Tung black captoe oxford in my size.
I need one and was going to order from TLB but that's like 500€+ while Skoak's house brand on sale is 250€. I'm not gonna wear these very often anyway.

Is "premium grade calf" actually full grain though? Lof & Tung uses stuff like kudu and horween shell so I guess it must be

[Anonymous No.18017105]

>>18017100
Yea they use cf stead, horween, haas etc. Doubt they would cheap out on the smooth calf suddenly.

[Anonymous No.18017125]

[Anonymous No.18017250]

>>18015752
>>18015677
I have reno, but it has mink oil so I was under the impression that it darkens leather. I've only ever used it on already dark or black boots.
Should I perhaps buy the new reno that is mink-free?

[Anonymous No.18017255]

>>18017012
they're using the 602m last too much imo.

[Anonymous No.18017262]

>>18017255
have you ever seen a pair of 602 lasted boots without the pinky bulge?
that's why they use the 602m more now

[Anonymous No.18017279]

>>18014521
no blacksmiths/iron rangers, but if i ever feel like buying moc toes then ill definitely go there
>>18015028
company seems cool and the price is great, but the design just isnt for me
>>18015168
was hoping for blacksmiths or iron rangers
>>18016949
going with these, ty anon

[Anonymous No.18017281]

>>18016989
did you take this photo with a webcam from 2005?

[Anonymous No.18017290]

why do indonesian makers love doing a double midsole so much?

[Anonymous No.18017292]

>>18017290
increases their height

[Anonymous No.18017301]

>>18017292
my eyes have been opened

[Anonymous No.18017312]

Besided clarks desert memes, what chukkas are worth getting for casual wear?

[Anonymous No.18017314]

>>18017312
for low cost stitchdown chukkas, astorflex, but they're less commonly available than CDBs

[Anonymous No.18017332]

>>18017012
Their lasts are too narrow for a boot. Same with GS

[Anonymous No.18017517]

>>18017312
The answer is always Jim Green

[Anonymous No.18017571]

too bad they're fuckugly

[Anonymous No.18017581]

>>18017571
yes but its the new base level 6" shit kicker and dethrones the ir

[Anonymous No.18017643]

I just got a pair of these rowdy 6" contractor boots from Drew's, I'll let you know how they fit when I get them. I got them the same exact size of my Frank's Patriots based off the recommendations from their customer service.
I have seen people say the boots are incredibly wide, but I don't have narrow feet or thin ankles so I wonder if they're just anklets and footlets. If they're right I'll just exchange them for their D width.

[Anonymous No.18017682]

>>18017332
GS Floyd last is the widest last I've ever owned.

[Anonymous No.18017683]

>>18017290
Pic? Last time someone posted a pic of a "double midsole" it was just the welt and midsole. Lol.

[Anonymous No.18017701]

>>18017683
talmbout double midsoles B?

[Anonymous No.18017706]

lol

[Anonymous No.18017730]

>>18017517
You posted their ugliest fucking color but thanks for the recommendation. Pulling the trigger on these since they're $99 and I've been wanting a color that isn't brown

[Anonymous No.18017732]

>>18017701
>>18017706
>ltt and double midsole
i get it now, they just really hate creasing at the toes.

[Anonymous No.18017733]

>>18017281
close. an iphone camera

[Anonymous No.18017736]

>>18017730
>You posted their ugliest fucking color
NTA but those boots he posted darken really well when you melt bees wax into them, I'll have to take some pictures sometime.

[Anonymous No.18017752]

>>18017730
This guy gets it
>>18017736

[Anonymous No.18017778]

>>18017084
OSB has exactly 1 (one) last that doesn't look goofy. But you're right otherwise.

[Anonymous No.18017783]

Brass Boot: Crimson CXL or Crimson Kudu?

I like the grain of the kudu and that it will hide any creasing better then the CXL, but the fact that the kudu only has contrast stitching on the toe seems iffy to me.

Also, if I pull the trigger, should I go a half size down from my Iron Ranger size or stick with it?

[Anonymous No.18017803]

Teju boots. Black or orange?
Orange looks great with blue jeans but I think it might be too gaudy. Black looks more badass.

[Anonymous No.18017990]

>the absolute state of nigs

[Anonymous No.18017999]

>>18017990
jesus their qc has gone out the window after the thursday shill started flogging them, how is a deformed toebox like that not noticed?

[Anonymous No.18018015]

>>18017999
hence why my newest boots are from franks
my nigs thankfully came pretty perfect, except the heel counter immediately felt less robust than on my jk300x or franks rainiers, so I think at least in their heritage boots they may have bastardized some of the build quality. The heel counter is always the worst thing for me to break in but the nigs it didn’t take anything

[Anonymous No.18018050]

>>18018015
>boots are harder to break in
>therefore better
brainrot general

[Anonymous No.18018054]

>>18018050
i mean you can feel the difference in the heel counter, the nigs aren't as thick or stiff
i don't know if that's just because it's a heritage MTO, maybe they still use the hardy counters in their work boots but the heel counter is definitely different and not as beefy

[Anonymous No.18018070]

>>18017643
PLEASE POST PUCTURE NEXT TO THE FRANKS
I need to see if the heel looks as short as it does in the site pics. it looks like it barely goes past the heel counter

[Anonymous No.18018074]

>>18017783
kudu

[Anonymous No.18018082]

>>18018074
Any advice on sizing? I'm planning on taking the same size I take in Iron Rangers, with the understanding that the brass is a little roomier. My red wings are a little tight width-wise when I wear thick wool socks.

[Anonymous No.18018106]

>>18017803
Teju is the easiest exotic to pull off and imo looks the best after (a well done) gator. And I'd go with black or dark brown. Tan is meh

[Anonymous No.18018120]

>>18014017
>>18013974
Imagine a beautiful girl wearing boots like these every day. Imagine the smell

[Anonymous No.18018131]

>>18013850
>tfw ladder-lace white laces on my black doc marten-like boots
Is this still a white supremacy thing or am I okay?

[Anonymous No.18018134]

yoo who tf bought these ugly ass brandle boots
fucking duck bill lookin ass, Daffy Duck foot ass, captain long toes goofy ass nigga
>someone payed 1200 bucks MINIMUM for these

[Anonymous No.18018139]

>>18014213
>broguing
>dressy
dafuq are you smoking? brogueing is max casual.

[Anonymous No.18018148]

>>18015175
No. Just no. Absolutely ghastly QC. I bought a pair of rangers recently, noticed a bit of heel slip but figured that would go away with break in. I wore them to the grocery store and my left ankle was bloody before I left the grocery store. Got home and turns out it was measurably wider than the right. It took two pairs of heel grips to get it to stop slipping, at which point I decided they were a lost cause and binned them. At least they were a cheap lesson.

[Anonymous No.18018150]

>>18018148
Should have just exchanged them, their customer service is top notch.

[Anonymous No.18018155]

>>18018082
>Any advice on sizing?
not really because i dont have any red wings to compare it to

[Anonymous No.18018169]

PNW boots, where left and right boot are indistinguishable.

[Anonymous No.18018181]

>>18018169
JK or franks

[Anonymous No.18018220]

Over time does the blacksmith become more bulbous than the IR? I have the IR and it's holding up well with shoe trees but would blacksmiths be more likely to develop that "clown shoe" toe?

[Anonymous No.18018238]

>>18018181
Frank would never make an abomination like that. Looks like JK to me.

[Anonymous No.18018258]

>>18018220
it'll be just as bulbous, they use the same celastic cap

[Anonymous No.18018329]

>>18018258
It's not the celastic that makes the clown shoe, it's the toe cap. It visually widens the hell out of the front. Tbh I have no idea why the IR took off the way it did as it's such a shit looking boot. Even in the 00s when there were fewer options, IR were the ugliest of the lot

[Anonymous No.18018335]

>>18018169
is this a joke? I know PNW makers aren't known for their craftsmanship. But this literally looks like someones fourth try at making boots.

[Anonymous No.18018340]

>It's not the celastic that makes the clown shoe

[Anonymous No.18018346]

>Celastic mAkeS tEh toE CLowNy

[Anonymous No.18018353]

>>18018329
What's an alternative at a similar price point then?

[Anonymous No.18018354]

Toe shape is all determined by the last. Can you autists stop making shits up, blaming external factors?
Don't like clown toe, don't buy clown lasted boots.

[Anonymous No.18018369]

>>18018346
based retard we're talking about the red wings here

[Anonymous No.18018376]

>>18018369
And celastic is exclusive to RW?

[Anonymous No.18018390]

>>18018335
what, are you not man enough for this shelf?

[Anonymous No.18018409]

the toe counter just exaggerates the clown toe of the last.

[Anonymous No.18018429]

Which has more pronounced arch and heel? The 1972 arch ease or the HNW? And by how much roughly? Thanks.

[Anonymous No.18018435]

>>18018409
>Toe puff does it job of keeping the last shape true
>Exaggerates
Brain rot.
Notice how the toe puff of Edward Green shoes do not create any clown toe?

[Anonymous No.18018441]

I hope to God you retards are low level workers that you love to cosplay as so much.
Simple laborers that follow orders as is. This whole discussion shows that you have 0 critical thinking skill and an abysmal problem solving skill.
You would be the type to uproot a whole house just to fix one electrical wiring.

[Anonymous No.18018444]

The Iron Ranger is designed by a based Japanese to appeal to that specific market.
If you don't like the toe, move on.Any deviations from the intended design makes it not Iron Ranger anymore.

[Anonymous No.18018453]

>>18016207
So these say "Made in England" but it also has a conspicuous "CHN" written next to it, what does it mean?

[Anonymous No.18018662]

>>18018435
Now think, if you were to remove it, what would happen to the edward green last?

[Anonymous No.18018689]

>>18018150
How about just buy a decent pair of boots to start with?

[Anonymous No.18018726]

>>18018220
Are these Red Wing Beckmans? These seem perfect to me because they don't have the bulbous toe of the Blacksmiths

[Anonymous No.18018751]

>>18018148
>Get a manufacturing defect
>Probably just got the wrong size
>Bin the almost $200 shoe instead of getting a refund
>Weak feet bleed at the slightest touch
Yeah sure mate. Pics or it didn't happen

[Anonymous No.18018771]

>>18018726
anon those ARE blacksmiths

[Anonymous No.18018861]

>>18018751
Hi Gareth, sorry not sorry to break the little hivemind delusion you've somehow created that your cheap boots are not actually cheap boots.

[Anonymous No.18018874]

>>18018861
Post pictures, if you're so great

[Anonymous No.18018884]

>>18018771
Blacksmiths have only 4 eyelets and the rest are speed hooks but apparently they both use the same last

[Anonymous No.18018910]

>>18018335
It's a bummer that the supposedly nicest american made boots are just cheap chink bullshit. Is there any foot wear out there that isn't overpriced trash? What's the point of spending hundreds when realistically, some $50 walmart garbage will ultimately be the same quality.

[Anonymous No.18018918]

bad bait

[Anonymous No.18018992]

>>18018910
>Is there any foot wear out there that isn't overpriced trash
Jim Greens are what you're looking for

[Anonymous No.18018997]

>>18017730
Orange leather is THE best color. It just has the best hues and ages the best.

[Anonymous No.18018999]

>>18018169
What the fuck is going on inside that boot? Does it have like a leather sock sewn into the boot?

[Anonymous No.18019014]

>>18018999
desu i think is a roughout lining with collar reinforcement

[Anonymous No.18019043]

redpill me on regular timberlands i can get em for like 100 bucks

[Anonymous No.18019059]

>>18018662
Deflated shapeless toothpaste tube.
Which ruins all the intended last shape.

[Anonymous No.18019147]

What leather is Edward Green's "crup"?
It looks like shell but is it? Horween?

[Anonymous No.18019149]

>>18019147
I don't know why horse leather is considered premium. It's one of the cheapest leathers you can find. Shell cordovan always looks like plastic and it's tedious to maintain. I really don't get the appeal.

[Anonymous No.18019150]

>>18019149
Shell is not horse leather, it's a horse membrane and it's really expensive

But yeah I don't like the look

[Anonymous No.18019376]

boot anons help
on one pair of boots i noticed one eyelet is chewing up my lace. Is there something i can do to smooth it out so it stops chewing laces ? lets say a file or an awl or something ?
Want to avoid paying the cobbler replacing eyelets

[Anonymous No.18019377]

>>18019149
Shell is easy to maintain. All you need is shoe trees and a brush.

[Anonymous No.18019400]

>>18019376
you could roll up some fine sandpapper and fuck the eyelet with it but it will damage any coatings on it if its coated

[Anonymous No.18019405]

>>18019149
>It's one of the cheapest leathers you can find
no it isn't cow consumption is much higher than horse consumption

[Anonymous No.18019406]

>>18019376
a nice skinny file, identifying which eyelet has the burr that is chewing up laces is the difficult part

[Anonymous No.18019455]

I'm down to 83kg (started at 102kg) and bought my first pair or slim fit jeans and cords and holy shit boots look so good in these

[Anonymous No.18019567]

>>18019147
its horween shell

[Anonymous No.18019571]

>>18019400
was thinking about that good point
>>18019406
i already know which one it is
skinny file is also good idea

[Anonymous No.18019574]

lads, I need your help since I'm a total noob when it comes to leather footwear and I just bought my first pair of proper lace up military style leather boots I have two questions:
How to properly condition them?
Do I need shoe trees specifically for boots like pic related? or would regular shoe trees do the trick?

[Anonymous No.18019577]

...only
it says brass eyelets, i will find out if they are real brass or just brass coated

[Anonymous No.18019580]

>>18019574
>condition
something like bick4 or saphir if you're fancy
>trees
you only need shoe trees, boot trees are a useless waste of money.

[Anonymous No.18019590]

>>18019574
I own boot trees (just one pair as a novelty) and they're useless, all you need is shoe trees

[Anonymous No.18019595]

I'm thinking about buying those low Dr shartens.
They're the perfect "casual but not a sneaker" and I want to look like the make version of an arthoe .

[Anonymous No.18019602]

>>18019595
Just buy regular derbies and avoid looking like a faggot?

[Anonymous No.18019671]

>>18019602
i just realized it thanks to you, what i really wanted was a derby shoe with a vibram sole

[Anonymous No.18019685]

>>18018726
Are the Wolverine 1000 Miles the closest thing at a similar price point to the Blacksmith without the bulbous toe?

[Anonymous No.18019698]

>>18019685
no because the 1k is shit

[Anonymous No.18019753]

>>18019698
Yeah not really a fan of the sole and being more expensive makes it not worth buying in my opinion. What would you recommend? Looking for something in a color like the briar oil slick. The Blacksmith would be perfect if it were just a bit sleeker, I might still buy it but want to consider alternatives.

[Anonymous No.18019771]

>>18019574
condition once a season

regular shoe trees will do fine

[Anonymous No.18019874]

Role Club update. Them toes are starting to collapse

[Anonymous No.18019878]

[Anonymous No.18019914]

>spend $750 on hipster handmade boots
>need to spend another $100 on "conditioning" creams, $100 on a brush, $100 on shoe trees
>can only wear them 10 times a month otherwise they get worn down too fast
>only last 3 years before they need a $350 resole (plus $100 postage because no one can do it locally)
>leather looks like shit and is losing shape by that time anyway
>B-BUT YOU NEED TO BUY $750 BOOTS BECAUSE THEYLL TOTALLY LAST A LIFE TIME IF YOU KEEP THEM IN A SEALED BOX AND LITERALLY NEVER WEAR THEM
daily reminder that nike airforces and air jordans get more wear than these hipster boots and still out last them

[Anonymous No.18019916]

get new material

[Anonymous No.18019918]

>>18019914
>$100 on "conditioning" creams
what are you conditioning your boots with, whale sperm?

[Anonymous No.18019923]

>Which has more pronounced arch and heel? The 1972 arch ease or the HNW? And by how much roughly? Thanks.

Anybody?

[Anonymous No.18019928]

>>18019914
>$100 on a brush
>$100 on creams
Bro what? Also, if you just get a pair of Whites, they are pretty much designed to be a robust pair of shitkickers, so you will have no issue wearing them every day

[Anonymous No.18019934]

>>18019914
>my boots living rent free in the mind of some noboots poorfag

[Anonymous No.18019935]

>>18019916
Keep seething at reality
You can simply say you enjoy ugly ass expensive hipster boots because it's a niche hobby and you feel a sense of superiority over those not involved in the hobby as well as the joy you feel from gatekeeping men's footwear, there's nothing wrong with that, I'd just call you a faggot
But instead you choose to be delusional

[Anonymous No.18019936]

muh fawces nigga
muh jawdans

[Anonymous No.18019937]

>>18019914
>$100 on "conditioning" creams, $100 on a brush, $100 on shoe trees
you overpaid lmao and now you're crying about imaginary situations

[Anonymous No.18019939]

>>18019935
>reeee why aren't you dressing like a basketball American?!?!?!

[Anonymous No.18019948]

>>18019939
Ah, another 4chan chud admitting he's a racist sack of shit to boot. Typical.

[Anonymous No.18019949]

>>18019948
>oh no is that a racist?!?!? save me Joe Biden!!!

[Anonymous No.18019950]

Nigs quality for you. I can’t wait to see how their Brambles turn out.

Also stitchdown boots are trash. Goodyearwelt and Veldtschoen are superior construction. I sold my (((Vibergs))) and Whites and never looked back. I can’t believe I fell for their memes in the first place.

[Anonymous No.18019954]

>>18019950
Those look retarded

[Anonymous No.18019963]

>>18019954
Are you looking in a mirror, anon?

Also
>>18019949
>you

[Anonymous No.18019966]

>>18019753
Truman's 79 last is great. Like a more refined IR/BS. Dunno if they have a dark brown plain toe model tho

[Anonymous No.18019995]

>>18019936
More durable than meme hipster boots

[Anonymous No.18019997]

>>18019995
>foam
>durable
did a hipster fuck your mom?

[Anonymous No.18020003]

>>18019950
>stitchdown boots are trash
yeah its simpler but pnw marketing has everyone fooled
the real top tier is handwelt
>but whites rolled welt
youll still chew up the upper on resoles prematurely

[Anonymous No.18020004]

>>18019997
I've had a pair of af1s since 2018 and I wear them all the time, hiking/construction/dirtbike and they are still like 80% condition.
Meanwhile your meme boots can't even step in a puddle without getting ruined.

[Anonymous No.18020006]

>>18020004
Lol I've seen people wear through af1's in less than a year, I definitely believe you. I'm sure you were doing some vigorous hiking in your flat soled basketball shoes.

[Anonymous No.18020012]

>>18020006
Yes indeed quite vigorous hiking
You've never seen af1s wear down that fast either, unless by wear you mean a scuffed toe

[Anonymous No.18020027]

>>18020004
post them

[Anonymous No.18020033]

Congrats Anon. You must be happy some of my fellow bootfags still let you live rent free. I hope it's brought some joy to your day.

[Anonymous No.18020108]

>>18019914
>poorfag mutt bedecked in chink plastic seething about 1000 dollarydoos

[Anonymous No.18020110]

>>18020108
spending 1000 dollars on footwear is objectively braindead

[Anonymous No.18020111]

>>18020110
jealousy

[Anonymous No.18020123]

>>18020111
>2024
>spending 1000 dollars to still look like shit

[Anonymous No.18020129]

>>18020123
>says the guy wearing 6 year old beat to shit AF1's

[Anonymous No.18020135]

>>18020129
I'm not that guy lmao

[Anonymous No.18020713]

Opinions on this sole? I don't like commando soles because they ruin the silhouete of the shoes/boots but this one is kinda low profile enough to get away with it.

The boots are Joe Works (Japan) made in Shinki (Japan) shell. The jeans are Edwin (Japan) selvedge.

[Anonymous No.18020725]

>>18020713
recessed commando still looks the best

[Anonymous No.18020729]

Whites now has these in black roughout

I'm a fan of wedge soles for casual boots but this thick wedge makes it look like manlet cope

[Anonymous No.18020786]

>>18020713
commando looks alright with u-tip boots

[Anonymous No.18020806]

I've had these Viberg double butts for 6 weeks now and they're still loosening up. They came with 2 pairs of laces and one's already dead, each shoe ate a lace. The leather was initially so stiff that something had to give when they flexed and the thinner Italian waxed laces didn't stand a chance. Still really like the color and the thickness on the leather. The veg tan shows all the little bumps and nicks they get.

[Anonymous No.18020830]

>>18020729
If you aren't a manlet, nobody's gonna give a fuck.

[Anonymous No.18020834]

>>18020806
Those are cool
I always find Vibergs very good looking and I also really like their laces
They also seem well built and crease excellently

I sold my Vibergs because they were half a size too small and a full size too narrow. They were also bottom-heavy and dainite sole made them uncomfortable.

I have often thought about buying again, half a size up and 1035 last which is said to be a little wider. And Ridgeway sole so it's less rough.
Alternatively, go up a full size and throw a cushy insole in there. No width problems either but it may look clownish to wear UK11 shoes when I'm 180cm.

[Anonymous No.18020836]

>>18020806
nice colour

[Anonymous No.18020845]

>>18014017
w2c?

[Anonymous No.18021106]

[Anonymous No.18021112]

>>18020004
I noticed you removed skateboarding from this copypasta larp since people pointed out that was impossible if you skated regularly kek

[Anonymous No.18021119]

>>18018220
Iron Rangers always turn into clown shoes, no matter what. I've never seen Blacksmiths or beckmans look like clown shoes. It's the toe cap, not just the last.

[Anonymous No.18021123]

>>18021119
the cLoWn shoe look is better than dress boots lol.

[Anonymous No.18021128]

Which has more pronounced arch and heel? The 1972 arch ease or the HNW? And by how much roughly? Thanks.

[Anonymous No.18021136]

>>18021106
>no, you don't undestand, honey, this mid-brown viberg is totally different from the other mid-brown viberg i already have

[Anonymous No.18021146]

>>18021128
if were talking about whites, then it's the same arch profile and same heel
the only difference is the toe shape

you can always just email them and ask

[Anonymous No.18021213]

>>18021146
I own a pair of whites in arch ease 1972 but I'm wondering because I want a pair of hnw because of a specific boot. This confuses me a bit because why does the boot maker matter? Isn't a last a last? What's the difference with toe size though if you say the only difference is toe size.

I'd like something inbetween a 1972
which feels basically flat to me and a 55 last. I love the 55 last but I bend over with my knees mostly straight, hands touching the floor. And I think the high heel of the 55 last would make this difficult. Also because of my job the 55 last I think wouldn't let me feel the position of my foot very well and I'm not trying to fall off a scaffold.

[Anonymous No.18021268]

>>18021106
How much money in this picture?
>>18021136
Kek
>>18021119
Yeah I've seen pictures of old blacksmiths and they don't seem to get clownish. Since I have the iron rangers already I'm looking for something as similar to the blacksmith as possible but with a sleeker last. I was looking at Truman boots but they didn't have oxblood in plain toe, any recs?

[Anonymous No.18021281]

>>18021106
Bootfagism is a mental illness

[Anonymous No.18021289]

>>18018353
Blacksmiths if you're gonna go IR. Then Trumans would be the next step up. The 79 last, even with a cap toe, looks sleeker than the IR while not being a gay piece of shit like Parkhurst/GS/OSB.
Alternatively you can go for Frank's Patriots or White's Perry's if you want the best bang for your buck between $300 and $400

[Anonymous No.18021300]

>>18021268
If only he put some money towards some fucking shoe trees.

[Anonymous No.18021548]

>>18021213
the MP last is basicly the one between 1972 and 55

[Anonymous No.18021570]

>>18021300
shoe trees are a meme made to sell you $50 waste wood chunks

[Anonymous No.18021600]

bros, i have a pair of premium timberlands and they squeak when i walk. did any of you ever have a similar problem? it sounds really fucking goofy. can i do anything about it, or does it go away if i wear them more?

[Anonymous No.18021606]

>>18021119
IRs, blacksmiths and Beckmans are all made in the same last. The clown toe of the IRs is by design, so either a bug or a feature depending on how you look at it.
They have a true toe cap plus a structured toe, and are made in an oil tanned leather that turns supple and flexible in no time.
Combined with the extra structure integrity that the facings give to the upper, the result is an area between the facings and the toe cap that's way less stiff and prone to heavy creasing.
On top of this tgey don't have a leather midsole, so they flex in that area a lot. All IRs I've seen develop a ton of creasing in that area even after a couple of wears. I strongly tecommend shoe tress to keep the creasing under control and prevent excessive toe spring from developing, which will occur in time.
The Brckmans, on the other hand, have a stiffer and probably thicker leather all around and a leather midsole, so creasing and toe spring takes way longer to develop even if you don't use shoe trees.
I've no experience with Blacksmiths.

[Anonymous No.18021671]

toe spring is good actually

[Anonymous No.18021672]

>>18021600
I can't speak to Timberlands specifically but usually it goes away with wear.

[Anonymous No.18021714]

How do Frank's run compared to Whites? I've got semi dress in a 9D that fit about a half size big in length but the width is perfect

[Anonymous No.18021735]

NEW
>>18021734
>>18021734

NEW
>>18021734
>>18021734

[gidudi No.18021857]

>>18021106
ID on leftmost black boots?