Denim Thread

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Denim Thread Anonymous Sat Dec 9 01:57:04 2023 No.17927016 [Reply] [Original]

Sold out in 30 seconds edition

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 02:47:36 2023 No.17927075 >>17927016 Nothing more cringe than denim fags, maybe trannies are up there

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 04:30:16 2023 No.17927151 >>17927016 >haha get it >we have HALF NAKED girls on our pants >get it cause we're NAKED and famous >do you see her PANTIES showing >i might goon to this later

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 04:34:08 2023 No.17927154 >>17927151 gooning is effay, loser.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 05:32:58 2023 No.17927192 >>17927151 You sound like the ugly dykes that were leaving angry comments on their instagram accusing the beaversof having "rapey vibes" and that this is objectifying women in a sexually discriminatory way.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 05:52:16 2023 No.17927205 >>17927151 >>17927075 I'll get 2 pairs next time I go shopping just to spite you two, fags. And I don't even care that much about denim I just think they're comfortable compared to Levi's that I had.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 05:58:44 2023 No.17927208 >>17927151 kinda true. my problem with the brand is that their philosophy was making inexpensive quality jeans that aren't inflated in price due to celebrities but only due to quality which definitely is not the philosophy they're running with now

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 06:30:57 2023 No.17927229 >>17927208 A lot of their stuff is still well under $200, and during their sales under $100 easily. They also have some crazy expensive pieces, I think the last MIJ were like $800

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 07:41:42 2023 No.17927275 >>17927208 Some of the cheapest selvedge you can get what are you talking about?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 07:47:54 2023 No.17927280 >>17927151 Yes, and…?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 07:54:04 2023 No.17927282 File: 79 KB, 640x763, nwtqytn5zurb1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17927280 Oversexualization is overdone. It's cringe at this point. It's no longer edgy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 07:55:22 2023 No.17927283 >>17927282 I don't care about what Redditors are doing

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 07:56:48 2023 No.17927284 >>17927282 >/edc/fags be like

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 08:29:17 2023 No.17927305

>>17927275
Well I'll admit to what that one Anon said that they do have some crazy good steals year round. But I feel all these collabs goes against
>After growing tired of celebrity culture and its impact on the denim industry, Svarc wanted Naked & Famous to be a purely product-based denim label that cut out celebrity endorsement and advertising. He hoped that this approach would result in an affordable, high-quality product. He didn’t want his products to be known for who was wearing them, but rather how they looked, felt, and were produced—always in Canada, and always from raw, un-distressed Japanese denim.
I'll admit it's not like a huge issue or something that makes the brand bad. I love their weird experimental jeans and I have a few I want but the collabs just seem excessive and I guess tacky for lack of a better word. I like the pinup women, it's charming and has a lot of character but I could see why people find it tacky just because the cuts have stupid names (weird guy, easy guy) and their collabs make it seem like this is a brand for virgins. Elvira jeans? Jojo jeans? Ghostbuster jeans? Street fighter jeans? Rick and monty pickle rick jeans? I prefer stuff like the Matsuri jeans, the elephant 11 Grandrelles, those extremely slubby jeans, these 15th anniversary jeans are also pretty cool and have a very nice and clean aesthetic compared to the collabs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 09:11:59 2023 No.17927330 Can someone please recommend me chocolate brown jeans available in Europe for around €150 be searching for days and can’t find shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 09:25:42 2023 No.17927336 just get unbranded for the same jeans without the cringe

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 10:29:53 2023 No.17927369 >>17927016 Is second-hand the way for pants?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 10:50:32 2023 No.17927388 people still wear Naked & Famous?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 11:05:17 2023 No.17927397 >>17927016 >Denim Plebswear.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 11:18:06 2023 No.17927411 >>17927397 >bugman cowers at the sight of the honest and hard-working white man's pant

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 12:05:16 2023 No.17927457 >>17927075 fpbp

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 12:15:28 2023 No.17927464 >>17927151 >hetero bad do a parasite cleanse.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 16:19:02 2023 No.17927731 >>17927388 the pair in OP sold out in less than a minute on Tate & Yoko and didn't last much longer than that at the few other places that had them

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 16:20:58 2023 No.17927737 >>17927016 I bought five pairs. Check eBay next week

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 16:51:51 2023 No.17927789 File: 79 KB, 766x1024, istockphoto-991939524-1024x1024.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17927192 They hate us because they ain't us.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 16:58:22 2023 No.17927802 File: 181 KB, 891x1024, IMG_20231209_115524_121.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Beaver boys aka angry beavers in the bread.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 17:18:38 2023 No.17927842 >>17927305 >elephant 11 Grandrelles wearing mine right now. You're right that the collabs are kinda goofy but honestly the denim is almost always nice. I wonder how many people are just tolerating it because they like that material.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 17:28:27 2023 No.17927849 File: 82 KB, 896x896, DSC01741_896x896.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Thoughts on Bravestar? kinda surprising there isn't more American selvedge

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 17:29:13 2023 No.17927850 >>17927151 Still the best value jeans on the market. Canadian made with mainline products under the $200 market. N&F can't be beat at their price point.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 18:00:53 2023 No.17927886 >>17927849 I've been wrangler, rustlers maxing. Starting a pair of rustler rigids on Jan 1st

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 18:03:47 2023 No.17927889 >>17927849 I have a bunch of stuff from them, their heavy sweatshirts are unmatched value. The 25 oz crewneck is so solid.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 18:07:08 2023 No.17927893 >>17927886 13MWZ jan 1st

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 18:10:51 2023 No.17927898 >>17927886 >I've been wrangler, rustlers maxing. I said American anon

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 18:12:25 2023 No.17927901 File: 279 KB, 1200x1600, 3sixteen.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] $98 brand new with tags worth a cop? Brand is 3sixteen so I don't know how good they are

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 18:12:51 2023 No.17927902 >>17927016 dang, forgot about it and never get the email reminder i set up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 18:16:35 2023 No.17927908 >>17927901 usually over $200. I've seen them in high end shops

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 18:25:08 2023 No.17927927

>>17927464
>>17927850
Yes but you have to wear a half naked girl with her panties showing on your ass. This is like those guys wearing hentai shirts in public. It's cringe. The brand loses all respectability. As I said, it might have been edgy when the brand started. Softcore porn is overdone these days though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 18:26:50 2023 No.17927929 >>17927893 Heck yes I'll join you, what is your plan? This is my first break in. Thinking wash when they smell or 3 months or so.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 18:34:39 2023 No.17927937 File: 87 KB, 600x800, s-2254603-hu0lettf132xzc4q.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17927898 American denim but made in Mexico but I understand

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 18:48:03 2023 No.17927958 >>17927927 No one cares, no one thinks this. Stop being dickless.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 20:32:48 2023 No.17928106 >>17927016 Is there a middle ground between $500 denim nerd jeans and $15 Walmart jeans? I need to get some new jeans but would prefer to spend a sane amount of money.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 20:38:30 2023 No.17928112 >>17928106 unbranded, brave star, N&F, there's also some Chinese options if you want to go that route, Bronson and a few others

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 22:36:23 2023 No.17928255 can anyone vouch for Taylor Stitch selvage jeans?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 22:37:54 2023 No.17928258 >>17927901 3sixteen is solid >>17927927 it gets covered by your belt anyways

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 22:41:21 2023 No.17928260 >>17927901 I bought a pair of Japanese blue for $80 new with tags and naked famous $60. How do they sell them so cheap on eBay if they’re normally $200+? Is that how much they cost in Japan?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 23:27:16 2023 No.17928312 >>17928258 belt goes under the patch retard

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 23:34:02 2023 No.17928323 >>17928312 Only on some of them, not all of their patches have a pass-through. You can see in OP pic that it's stitched on all 4 sides. Retard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 23:56:12 2023 No.17928347 >>17928323 you're supposed to unstitch it it's like jacket pockets retard

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 00:36:45 2023 No.17928375 >>17927731 why? wtf

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 00:49:14 2023 No.17928391 >>17928375 because you're autistic and out of touch

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 00:51:54 2023 No.17928393 File: 236 KB, 800x800, 101556603_05_800x[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17928375 Limited edition for their 15th anniversary. They only made a few hundred pairs.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 00:57:30 2023 No.17928402 >>17927305 they tried to do an ultra premium line without the cringe marketing years ago and it failed bc nobody knew it existed

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 01:05:32 2023 No.17928407 File: 2.00 MB, 436x180, IMG_0186.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17927282 No prostate toys? weak.

Anonymous Sun Dec 10 02:03:35 2023 No.17928458

>>17927016
Is there a guide to good denim at different price tiers? I mostly just wear the same 4 pairs of wranglers, lucky, and Levi jeans I've had for the last 10 years.

My 2 pairs of Levi's in particular are starting to really show their age and thin out and I'm thinking of getting a couple of pairs of decent $60-150ish pairs of jeans that can look good in a casual/business casual/engineering office setting.

Recs?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 02:04:37 2023 No.17928459 >>17928458 there's no need to have that many pairs you just save up and buy 1 pair of iron heart instead of 3 of those.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 02:17:26 2023 No.17928474 >>17928458 Well if you want selvedge N&F Core Essentials and Brave Star are great

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 02:17:36 2023 No.17928475 >>17928458 instead of getting 3 $150 pairs get a really nice pair of jeans and if theres any budget left over get a cheap sulfur dyed black warp/black weft pair.

Anonymous Sun Dec 10 02:23:06 2023 No.17928478

>>17928459
I don't have a ton of jeans, but I get your point.

I've got a pair of wrangler boot cut jeans, a pair of Lucky Jeans straight cut, 1 pair of Levi 501's and one pair of Levi 514's. All of which are 8+ years old with the two pairs of Levi's being jeans I've had since 2010. My plan was to get 2 pairs of jeans to retire my Levi's that are starting to fall apart.

Anonymous Sun Dec 10 02:59:01 2023 No.17928525
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I have a pair of Indigo Levi's jeans that are fine but I'd like a second pair of indigo jeans that won't fade. Should I just buy a second pair of Levi's? Raw denim seems to be all about muh fades and I'm not trying to spend $400 on those Pure Blue NC jeans so in that case should I just avoid raw denim and buy pre-washed? Was thinking about getting these https://www.weargustin.com/store/jeans-556-gustinxvidalia-indigoxblack# but they have a white yarn core, any recommendations for some with a dyed core like these https://japanblue-jeans.com/latest/exclusive-item-j0584jz-13-5oz-cote-d-ivoire-cotton-selvedge-standard-jeans-natural-indigo.html ?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 03:00:19 2023 No.17928526 >>17928525 Well raws don't have to be that much but you should just get another pair of Levis and don't bother with the fussiness of denim

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 03:55:34 2023 No.17928566 I have the 10th anniversary ones they’re way cooler Naked girl on the back with a birthday with frosting on her boobs and holographic text

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 04:33:44 2023 No.17928581 >>17928566 That's based bro. I wanted to buy it but got fucked over due to business overseas.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 07:38:44 2023 No.17928719 If you could design a Type 4 jacket what would it look like?

Anonymous Sun Dec 10 09:46:49 2023 No.17928787

>>17928525
Anything with natural indigo dye will bleed and fade over time. My recommendation for people who want a pair of decent dark jeans without the hasdle is Levi's 502 in dark blue from the premium line. They are straight with a slight taper so should fit most people well, don't rely on trends so won't get dated in a couple of years and the quality is pretty good for the price. Just a handful of $ over the regular line but much better material and stitching.
They also olde the color pretty well and for long.
If you're OK with some bleeding and fading and want a more natural looking indigo color, get the 501s 150th anniversary.
Both options should be easily available at any mall near you.

Anonymous Sun Dec 10 09:56:29 2023 No.17928788

>>17928719
Tbh I think the type III is the end game of trucker jackets, so I would just do a couple of modifications to that model.
>side pockets integrated on the front seams
>gussets in the back of the shoulders and armpis (these vented) for a tighter looking fit that doesn't restrict mobility
>big inside pockets
>perhaps bigger and more functional chest pockets
These features exist in some jackets but I still have to find one that has all of them

Anonymous Sun Dec 10 09:58:32 2023 No.17928790

>>17928525
>indigo jeans that won't fade
anything that isn't rope dyed. really lightweight jeans are usually garment dyed.
or you can save up a bunch for a pair of hank dyed jeans which wont ever contrast fade.
>colored core
n&f, pbj
>so in that case should I just avoid raw denim and buy pre-washed?
you can just treat raw denim like normal jeans too, they stop bleeding after the first wash or two. its a little bit nicer than buying dark wash jeans with juan and carlos' sandpaper whiskers job done on it.
most raw denim brands will sell 1-2 rinse pairs of jeans already softened up that typically won't bleed, or you can just throw raws in the wash a few times for the same effect.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 10:00:58 2023 No.17928792 >>17928719 only problem with the type 3 is its clearly designed for a different era where americans were a lot more athletic.

Anonymous Sun Dec 10 15:43:45 2023 No.17929062
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redpill me on Wrangler's 13MWZ

also, I see tons of colors, my best guess is thay "indigo" is the OG and you just wait to get that washed/bleach effect after lots of wear??? like a guitar relic

Anonymous Sun Dec 10 16:38:09 2023 No.17929141

>>17928458
If you like Levi’s, just get one pair of Iron Hearts. They’re essentially the perfected version of the 501. They take a long time to fade and fully break in too, so it’s not like you’d be destroying them in a short time. You’ll have them for a long while. On top of that, you can send them to Self Edge for really great repair services if they ever get holes. They use a darning machine, it’s fixes holes without making it look like you did some really ghetto patchwork

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 16:53:24 2023 No.17929169 Found some raw selvedge at an outlet mall for like 30 dollars. It's pretty nice. It's just a random pair from banana republic but it's head and shoulders over all my other jeans. For best results how often should I be wearing?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 17:01:49 2023 No.17929183 >>17928790 >>colored core >n&f, pbj Any images of these after fading? I tried a search but couldn’t find anything

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 19:28:46 2023 No.17929419 >>17927850 >N&F can't be beat at their price point. Brave star BTFOs them, and so does TCB Jeans.

Anonymous Sun Dec 10 19:35:16 2023 No.17929430

>>17927849
Really great brand, I have one pair I wear regularly the pima flame cones you have in the pic related and a couple more on preorder.
One of the few brands that are giving you the best denim they can without having absurd mark ups.
I have their hoodie and crew neck and I can't recommend them enough.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 19:37:31 2023 No.17929437 >>17927850 Sugar Cane bought from nipland undercuts them by $50 for 10 times the jean

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 20:07:46 2023 No.17929497 >>17929437 where 2 cop

Anonymous Sun Dec 10 20:19:42 2023 No.17929523

Are there any actual jeans worth trying if I am /fit/ with a big lower body? I would prefer washed but I don’t mind trying raw for the first time, I can’t find any normal jeans which fit decently and anything marketed towards athletic is kind of shit, even the N&F strong guys seem kind of skinny but I don’t know. Maybe I should consider stretch.
>37.5” waist
>46” hips
>28.5” thigh

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 20:20:56 2023 No.17929526 >>17929523 try Brave Star Strongman cut

Anonymous Sun Dec 10 20:23:11 2023 No.17929531

>>17929523
I'm in a similar situation
I have a 29" waist but massive ass and thighs

I wear IH 888 and N&F easy guy

the IH are a much better fit for my body but they're like twice the price.

N&F aren't bad but they taper to the point that I can barely get my feet through the hem. thighs are ok though.

Anonymous Sun Dec 10 20:27:36 2023 No.17929536
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>>17928260
because retarded people like me buy shit at retail because they have excess $$ then look at what they buy and go "eh fuck it" and just never wear it
I won't claim I own expensive shit, but I absolutely have a few thousand dollars worth of stuff I just bought retail and said fuck that when it came in

Anonymous Sun Dec 10 20:36:58 2023 No.17929554

>>17929497
Denimio and Hinoya
>>17929523
Indigofera Kirk or Sugar Cane (1947 or 1966). I've got a 32" waist and 24.5" thighs and those are the cuts in my rotation.

On a budget you can try Wrangler relaxed cowboy cuts or 501 shrink to fits. For the latter size up two sizes to accommodate your legs and wear them damp after soaking them so that the thighs don't shrink past your legs

Anonymous Sun Dec 10 20:54:29 2023 No.17929583

>>17929526
>>17929531
>>17929554
Thank you, I will take a look at all of these. I try to use the size charts a lot before buying. Is there a typical amount of inches you’ll leave for tolerance at the hip or thigh for a comfortable/looser fit which doesn’t feel restrictive to move around in? For example, I’m not sure if I should be looking for denim which has an extra 2” or 4” over my body measurements at the garment hip measurement.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 21:09:42 2023 No.17929604 for me, its diesel jeans unironically

Anonymous Sun Dec 10 21:12:41 2023 No.17929608

>>17929583
100% cotton jeans will have about an inch and a half of stretch in the waist over time. If you get a pair with waist and thigh dimensions that are matching your true waist and thigh dimensions, it should be a good fit and will stretch some to fit you perfectly over time. I have a 33.5” waist and will always get size 34 in the iron hearts because the true waist size for that pair is around 33.5”. If I get one size smaller, I can’t manage to button them up fully. That being said, try the best you can to not get a waist size that is even 0.5” smaller than your true waist size. You’re going to probably find out that it’s a bitch to button up

Anonymous Sun Dec 10 21:19:53 2023 No.17929617
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What are some alternatives to Levi's 511s? I lost weight so I can no longer wear my blue-grey Levi's without a belt and would like to get new jeans of a similar color. But it looks like the Levi's website now has much worse color selection. It all looks very generic and lacking in personality.

Anonymous Sun Dec 10 21:24:37 2023 No.17929622

>>17929583
Most places don't offer hip measurements unfortunately. I go by thigh and aim to have at least 0.5" of room there, as well as at least 12" of front rise and 16" of back rise. That's on a jeans that measure 32 or 33 inches in the waist so you'll likely want something proportionally higher

Anonymous Sun Dec 10 21:27:38 2023 No.17929627

>>17929608
>100% cotton jeans will have about an inch and a half of stretch in the waist over time
>try the best you can to not get a waist size that is even 0.5” smaller than your true waist size
So you can't get one 1.5" smaller than your waist with the intention of stretching them?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 22:03:51 2023 No.17929667 >>17927016 Where to cop a nice pair of dark grey jeans

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 22:08:55 2023 No.17929678 Are Levi’s that bad if I don’t want raw denim but just something very dark which looks almost like it but minus the fading?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 22:33:07 2023 No.17929709 >>17929678 I've had bad experiences with Levis in recent years, but the premium line worked really well for me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 00:32:31 2023 No.17929857 Do you guys know of any good jeans that are wide in the thighs and leg openings but not dumpy in the ass? I dont care about selvedge or anything.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 00:33:57 2023 No.17929859 >>17929678 I'd wear Levis but 80% of them are stretch and the sizing is so fucked

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 00:40:49 2023 No.17929868 >>17929678 The STF are fine and the non-stretch premium options are decent >>17929857 What's your build?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 01:20:06 2023 No.17929901 Cheap raw denim to fade?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 01:26:55 2023 No.17929904 >>17929868 I feel like im pretty slim, but straight Levis jeans (505s and 501s) are all fairly tight around the thighs, then the 505 relaxed fits are really loose and dumpy around the ass and if I pull them up they just bunch up

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 01:39:33 2023 No.17929913 >>17929901 How much do you want to spend?

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 02:12:49 2023 No.17929937
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I can't seem to find good jeans for an ottermode soccer player body with a big cock. Being 100% honest. Everything in the market is a lie.
>athletic fit? slim fit?
It's actually 2" bigger in the waist but they wont tell their over-the-hill or skinnyfat customer base that because they wouldn't 'feel good' and then they wouldn't buy it
>made in china?
Tailored for the Chinese body, small in the crotch.
>made in 'sweden' but actually tailored in portugal 'cool kid' denim brand
Based on the fit of nudie jeans, I'm going to assume that the modern Swedish man is a pregnant skinnyfat with a diaper ass
>just buy levis
giving money to jews is no go
>r4w s3LveDge maaaaan
go fuck yourself

Jeans are just cotton pants, why the fuck is it so hard to find cotton pants that fit a natural body?

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 02:23:24 2023 No.17929949

>>17927305
>I could see why people find it tacky just because the cuts have stupid names (weird guy, easy guy) and their collabs make it seem like this is a brand for virgins
Virginity extends to the mind if you know what I mean. Telling a grown male his fit is "Weird" and "more comfortable in the waist" is their PC quirky way of saying "hey you stupid fat manchild, we made a fit for you". I just looked over their site. I don't know how you did NOT make the connection between 50's American pop culture influencing Japan after the war. I think you're the virgin now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 02:46:54 2023 No.17929968 >>17929937 iron heart 888 or 634 depending on whether you like taper or straight leg they are very thigh/ass/cock roomy.

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 02:54:41 2023 No.17929974

>>17929627
I wouldn’t. Whenever I tried on selvedge denim in store, it was almost impossible to completely button the waist if it was at least 0.5” smaller than my true waist size. This was with multiple pairs from different companies too. It wouldn’t be the same with stretch denim, but raw 100% cotton denim is stiff when new. It’s always better to buy something that will already fit you perfectly (unless it’s unsanforized and you’re expecting shrinkage)

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 02:57:09 2023 No.17929978

>>17929937
If your cock is like 9”+, I’d probably think a straight fit Jean with a high rise is what you need. Check out iron heart 888. If you have beefy quads, this will be a good fit since it has a small amount of taper and will give you a good leg silhouette

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 03:29:18 2023 No.17930025

>>17929937
Ignore the IH shills, the 888 thighs aren't that roomy. Go for Indigofera's Kirk. I too hate nudies but these are some of the best fitting jeans for big legs and small waist. Can't speak for cock stats cause I have an aesthetic Greco-Roman dick

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 03:34:09 2023 No.17930032

>>17929937
>>17930025
the IH 888 and indigofera kirk are within <1/4" of each other in the thighs across pretty much all sizes, trading which one is a little wider than the other depending on what size specifically.

if you want to say the IH are too expensive or not worth it, that's a fine opinion, but the thighs are plenty roomy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 03:43:16 2023 No.17930039 >>17927850 >Canadian made anon, i have news for you... they're not made in Canada

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 03:44:31 2023 No.17930040

>>17930032
I've tried both on and the taper makes a huge difference. The 888 I wanted to buy (14oz OD) in size 33 were painted on from mid thigh down while still being about an inch big in the waist. My gunpowder kirks fit looser through the leg from the jump at size 31 but the waist was more snug.

Believe me I wanted to love IH and the 888 but they really aren't that roomy if you actually lift

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 03:44:38 2023 No.17930042 >>17930039 funny, the pair I got in the mail last week are pretty clearly labeled "made in canada".

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 03:48:25 2023 No.17930048 >>17930040 if you don't like the taper there's always the IH 634.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 03:53:44 2023 No.17930052 >>17930039 They absolutely are made in Canada. They own the factory where they are made in Montreal.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 03:54:28 2023 No.17930053 >>17929937 Samurai S510xx

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 03:55:16 2023 No.17930055

>>17930048
Yeah but the front rise is too low on those. And I'm good on denim for the time being. I've got some sugar canes for blue jeans, the kirks for black, and some charcoal 501 stf for beaters.
For my next pair down the line I'm looking at Dawson or maybe Stevenson Overall

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 04:07:51 2023 No.17930067 Femanons I have a half chub in my pants, what should I do?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 04:10:35 2023 No.17930073 >>17930039 >>17930052 I am from Montreal and I have actually visited their factory and met the owners at Tate and Yoko.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 04:56:23 2023 No.17930101 What do you guys think of Fullcount? I just bought the 1101xx 15.5oz because the fit/measurements matched exactly what I was looking for but I don’t see a lot of talk anywhere about them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 05:22:30 2023 No.17930133 >>17930039 I was raped in the factory by Jimmy anon...

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 05:50:21 2023 No.17930149 File: 146 KB, 750x737, IMG_8385.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17927958 turn to Jesus anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 05:54:10 2023 No.17930153 File: 756 KB, 1170x1166, IMG_0065.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17928566 >le heckin naked girl on clothing huehuehue

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 06:12:21 2023 No.17930164

>3 pairs of Uniqlo Stretch selvedge Light wash, dark wash, and black in size 32 for when I cut
>3 pairs of Uniqlo Stretch selvedge Light wash, dark wash, and black in size 34 for when I bulk
>6 pairs of Raw denim from IH, APC, PBJ, Momotaro, etc in size 34-35 for year round fades
is this the ultimate endgame

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 06:42:41 2023 No.17930184 >>17927016 What fit do you guys recommend for skinny legs but square body?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 06:54:24 2023 No.17930187 >>17930184 squats

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 06:58:12 2023 No.17930188 File: 15 KB, 177x285, download.jpeg-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17930184 Bump

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 08:44:26 2023 No.17930262 File: 481 KB, 735x980, 1376718904840.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17929183

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 11:51:21 2023 No.17930377 File: 532 KB, 2000x3000, A10229_09G20_02_I.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i like to buy mine with the fades already there, is that effay?

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 12:00:21 2023 No.17930386

>>17930377
i like to buy both kinds, but i only buy pre faded if:
the fades look kinda natural
the fades (esp knees and honeycombs) actually line up w/ my body
the jeans come in multiple inseams -- there's no great way to hem pre-faded denim
i'd wear those diesels esp if they were higher rise.

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 13:33:41 2023 No.17930503

>>17930377
Question to people that know about fading I have a pair of black jeans with gray highlight fades. like this pic but I essentially want to make them completely fade to the gray colour is there anyway to do so without dying or wearing them that will speed up this process.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 13:56:05 2023 No.17930521 >>17930262 Those look like normal fades. I guess it has vertical blue color to it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 16:21:22 2023 No.17930649 >>17930521 It faded to the color of the interior yarns what did you expect

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 01:24:13 2023 No.17931301 is there any brands that does interesting cuts/patterns for pants like g-stars or diesel?

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 01:28:06 2023 No.17931306

>>17930503
if you want to uniformly lighten them, just wash them a bunch of times. don't use special denimbro detergent. maybe toss a cap of bleach or some oxyclean in there.
>>17931301
yeah a bunch, you'd probably like kapital if you haven't already heard of them (way cheaper buying direct from japan w/ proxy btw)
g star's always lowkey done raw denim too btw, not so much for a while but they've been bringing it back recently.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 01:42:02 2023 No.17931316 >>17930377 it's fine. the only thing with pre-faded jeans is that most of the time the fades don't look natural, but honestly no one is really going to notice or care except you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 01:55:09 2023 No.17931328 >>17927849 I found a pair for $65 15oz on eBay. Yay or nay?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 01:58:08 2023 No.17931337 >>17931328 Post pics

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 02:04:52 2023 No.17931345 >>17931337 They’re new with tags slim taper fit

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 02:05:11 2023 No.17931346 >>17931345 Do it then.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 02:23:15 2023 No.17931363 >>17931346 But I want to buy cooler denim while I’m in Japan like sashiko, colored denim, and 21oz denim

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 02:24:10 2023 No.17931365 >>17931363 Brave star has some 25 oz denim on their website right now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 02:28:53 2023 No.17931372 >>17931363 get both, beat the hell out of the cheap ones

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 02:34:38 2023 No.17931376 >>17931365 They’re made in LA, I hope it’s not a faggot or Beaner company. Can anyone confirm?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 02:37:43 2023 No.17931382 >>17931376 Brave Star is good to go. Their sweaters are fucking great. I'm wearing their brown bear jeans right now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 02:39:33 2023 No.17931383 >>17931376 I've been there twice, it's mostly White people there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 02:49:35 2023 No.17931396 >>17931363 If you buy denim in Japan, it’s cheaper. A pair of iron hearts straight from Japan is like $200-260. That’s honestly pretty good for what are arguably one of the top 3 jeans on the market

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 02:50:50 2023 No.17931398 >>17931396 do you know if ironheart stuff can be purchased from japan with proxies/forwarders? i've seen "no" online but I feel like that's bs

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 02:58:02 2023 No.17931414 File: 38 KB, 443x450, i-haz-question.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I think I'm going to be going out on a limb here, but how does Iron Heart denim size? I wear size 34 in Levi's 511, would I go for that size in 21 oz?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 02:59:12 2023 No.17931417 >>17931414 just check the measurements on the various cuts and go with what you like

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 03:09:30 2023 No.17931431

>>17931398
I bought my pair of IH 634s brand new on Ebay from Japan for $260. The retailer even gave their own sizing chart and they arrived at my house in 6 days. A lot of people don't know their options for purchasing the higher end brands from Japan. They think that they are only allowed to pay $400 for a pair sold in the US, and then they continue to shit on the brand as a whole because they were too retarded to do any research

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 03:11:43 2023 No.17931435

>>17931414
I wear size 33 in most denim brands (Levis and Wrangler cowboy cuts), and I have to size up with IH to a 34. I'm lucky enough to live near Self Edge where I was able to try on some pairs in person, and I can tell you that although sizing one size too small on a pair of wranglers is forgiving, it is not at all forgiving on a crispy new pair of 21 oz selvedge. Make sure you measure the waist on your best fitting pair you own and then compare to the size charts on the websites

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 03:15:09 2023 No.17931437 >>17931396 What makes iron heart 21oz denim better than brave star 21oz denim?

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 03:25:37 2023 No.17931453

>>17931437
Speaking as an IH fanboy, literally nothing makes it better than Bravestar. Its just that IH in my opinion has a sexier design, especially the back pockets, and you are pretty much just paying for the brand name. What comes with that though is the reputation they earned for having immaculate quality control on all their items. Its like the equivalent of buying a Fender Custom Shop guitar as opposed to a regular production line Fender. Although they probably aren't worth an extra $3000 compared to a regular Fender, you are pretty much guaranteed an item that will not disappoint and that will hold its value over time. In the big picture, an extra $200 on a pair of jeans you will have for many years is not that much money. If you however prefer the aesthetics of the Bravestar, then thats your thing and all the power to you

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 03:27:19 2023 No.17931458 >>17931437 >>17931453 they have different cuts. the 888 cut is very flattering.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 03:28:04 2023 No.17931461 whats the difference between the 555 and 777 Iron Heart 21 Oz?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 03:30:14 2023 No.17931465 >>17931461 teaching you to fish anon https://www.ironheart.co.uk/content/cut-comparison

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 03:30:31 2023 No.17931466 >>17931461 555 is super slim, whereas 777 is just regular slim with some taper. If you have even remotely regular thighs to thick thighs, stay away from those models. If you are however a skinny dude, they will be perfect for you

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 03:31:39 2023 No.17931470 Anyone else wearing high rise jeans?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 05:54:39 2023 No.17931550 >>17927016 I put a naked and famous sticker on my water bottle and a boomer woman bitched at me that it was inappropriate to have in public.

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 06:01:03 2023 No.17931565

>>17931414
I'm size 32 Uniqlo stretch denim and in most Raws I'm 34; some Japanese brands I have to size up to 35. That being said I went TTS on my 777s 21oz. I'm not sure how they'll fit but the measurements on the website was pretty compatible to all my other pair of Raws

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 06:01:43 2023 No.17931568 >>17931550 should've told her that her ugly face was inappropriate to show in public and handed her a burka

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 06:07:02 2023 No.17931574 >>17931550 based boomer normalize moralfag dunking on edgy soifags

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 06:31:38 2023 No.17931593

>>17931466
777s fit maybe a little tighter on the thighs than my other raws but by no means unwearable
the 555s on the other hand would be unwearable
t. 5'7" 180lbs

>>17931470
that's kinda the fashion meta atm but I'm short so high rise just accentuates my short legs so nah
most low-mid rise jeans already have plenty of seat in them since they are designed for people 5'10"+ so any mid-rise defacto becomes high-rise on me

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 06:46:29 2023 No.17931599 >>17931593 high rise does not accentuate short legs. it makes your legs look longer in proportion to your torso which makes you look taller. t. 5'4" 120 lbs.

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 06:54:11 2023 No.17931601

>>17931599
it does if I still wear them where I would normally wear my low-rise jeans at
high-rise just make my ass look dumpy like drop crotches since I wear them "wrong". I don't normally see high-rise jeans in anything other than straight leg or bootcut so it's a pass from me desu

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 06:58:11 2023 No.17931606

>>17931593
>but I'm short so high rise just accentuates my short legs so nah
Pretty sure it's the opposite, high rise makes your legs look longer and your torso shorter, while low rise makes your torso look longer.
This only matters if you tuck in your shirts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 06:59:11 2023 No.17931607 >>17931601 >it does if I still wear them where I would normally wear my low-rise jeans at Why would you do that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 07:01:10 2023 No.17931610 >>17931607 because then I'd have to size up and lose the tighter tapers I know loose/straight leg jeans are "in" right now but I'm perpetually stuck in 2012 so I prefer the tighter slim fits

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 07:04:33 2023 No.17931613 File: 3.74 MB, 512x512, 1681743989688462.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17931610

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 07:21:47 2023 No.17931626 didn't read thread just stuff i remember from trying to wear raw denim >jeans cost a bunch >everything I own turns blue >can't wash for months, walk around smelling like shit >blow the crotch out of the jeans anyway suffer for no reason.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 07:23:21 2023 No.17931627 >>17931626 >>can't wash for months, walk around smelling like shit >>blow the crotch out of the jeans anyway suffer for no reason. so you're fat and you don't wash your ass properly, is what you're saying

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 08:16:55 2023 No.17931654 >>17931627 don't be mean you know it happens to everyone

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 09:09:54 2023 No.17931686 >>17927016 I would rather get the copper pants, it has health benefits

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 12:30:27 2023 No.17931798 File: 61 KB, 480x498, IMG_9653.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17931613

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 13:49:31 2023 No.17931852 >>17929904 Wrangler cowboy cuts

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 13:59:24 2023 No.17931855

>>17931376
It’s sad that I don’t even care about buying American made anymore. 90% of the time it’s still being made by brown people and owned by Jews or lefty faggots. Might as well cut out the Jew and get it cheaper from third world. American made quality isn’t there for most things anymore

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:20:44 2023 No.17931884 Is S.Oliver a quality brand for chino pants? Ik they're not denim, but this is seems to be the best thread to ask this in.

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:47:41 2023 No.17931919

>>17931626
what kind of grease do you niggers emit from your bodies that makes jeans smell? i've gone up to 5 years between washes and never had them smell more than a mild sweet aroma if you shove your nose right up to it. indigo dye is antimicrobial as shit. maybe its a climate thing? i am pretty far north.

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:52:34 2023 No.17931926

>>17931855
Same. I’ve boughten expensive American made workwear pieces and the QC is always in some way inferior to literally everything I buy from Japan. I’ve never boughten any Japanese denim piece or pair of leather boots that had anything wrong with it. I’ll pay the extra money for the shipping and taxes if I’m guaranteed to receive a product that is flawless

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:53:41 2023 No.17931927 >>17927016 I think I am done with selvedge and just gonna go back to cheaper stretch denim I have never in my life blown out a pair of jeans

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:54:39 2023 No.17931929

>>17931437
youre paying a sizable % of the cost on import bullshit whenever you buy jeans made in japan in america. these fees only applied to completed jeans not denim fabric, thus companies like brave star and n&f import the denim and assemble the jeans here. there's no possible way for japanese brands to compete on price because of that, as anon said the jap brands aren't meant to be priced as high as we pay for them.
for a lot of guys they get enough wear out of their jeans, or the rest of their wardrobe costs enough that its not really a value proposition and you'd rather have the best in the world regardless of the fact you're overpaying like shit on brands like ih momotaro etc -- giga high end denim really isn't that expensive in the big picture when it comes to fashion.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:56:20 2023 No.17931931 File: 427 KB, 696x552, 1679757434462642.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17931927 uniqlo sells stretch selvedge for 50bux

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 18:03:14 2023 No.17932219 I'm tempted to drop some cash on a pair of Iron Hearts. I know people like them for a the fades. Are they actually high quality too? Will they last me for a long time?

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 18:41:25 2023 No.17932276

>>17932219
Yeah, they’re high quality and they will last you a while depending on what your lifestyle is. If you’re doing manual labor or biking with them every day, you’ll get some faster wear and tear in the crotch area, but generally they have more structural features than the majority of even higher end denim (thick poly thread stitching, belt loops stitched under the waist band). You’ll get a number of sour grapes on here that will try and convince you that it’s not worth what they charge, but iron heart has a perfected design and aesthetic, so realistically you’ll love wearing them forever and you really won’t have to care much about purchasing any other jeans unless you want some variation in color or amount of slub texture. $350-400 for jeans that will last you many years is not a lot of money, and if you want to keep them forever to maximize the value of purchase, you can always send them into Self Edge to get a darning machine repair on any rips or tears for like $40

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 18:48:01 2023 No.17932299

>>17932219
If you’re looking to get a pair, there’s many different cuts, but their iconic 21 oz, mid rise straight leg jeans can be bought on the IH Japan website for like $180 new. All the other tapered cuts can only really be found in EU and US in which case you’ll be spending at least $350

https://ironheart.shop-pro.jp/?pid=106757906

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 23:07:38 2023 No.17932592 >>17931919 Where I live we still have 15-20 °C

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 23:09:44 2023 No.17932595 >>17931470 12" minimum

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 00:23:56 2023 No.17932667 >>17932219 iron heart are really high qual. look into the other jap brands on that tier first as well, make sure you're getting what you want, they all have their own niches and specialties.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 00:31:17 2023 No.17932676 >>17932219 Iron Heart, Momotaro and Samurai are probably tied for making the best quality jeans in the entire world. The tier below that would be brands like Oni and Studio D'Artisan. Below that again you get like Sugar Cane and N&F.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 00:43:27 2023 No.17932692 >>17932299 but you can't ship them outside japan not even to proxies/forwarders

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 01:17:28 2023 No.17932744 >>17931919 You've never sweated wearing jeans?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 01:18:58 2023 No.17932747 >>17932744 *swat ESL

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 01:40:20 2023 No.17932778 File: 521 KB, 900x993, brick1[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] got red double knees on the way from Left Field NY

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 01:50:46 2023 No.17932798 are wrangler 13mwz "rigid indigo" raw denim?

Anonymous Wed Dec 13 02:18:54 2023 No.17932833

>>17932798
In case you didn't know, term raw denim technically refers to denim that has not been washed. Most people, including myself, prefer to buy 'one wash' denim, that has been washed once by the manufacturer to soften and shrink them. Any denim that's one wash or raw will fade the way you see in those pictures online.

Anyway, they look to be raw (aka rigid) so unwashed.

Anonymous Wed Dec 13 02:24:58 2023 No.17932841

>>17932798
no but they're close to it. they're 2 shades lighter than most raws (most people describe them as having a "blueberry" color) and sanforized.
they'll fade the same way, just with lower contrast. think of them like a 1 or 2 wash denim, but with some starch added back to them so they're still crispy, maybe half as starchy as an average pair of raws.

Anonymous Wed Dec 13 02:25:31 2023 No.17932843

>>17932833
in case you didn't know, term smegma refers to the cheese in a dick head that has not been washed. most people, including myself, prefer a 'washed' penis, that has been washed by the person to clean it. any penis that has been washed recently will look like the ones you see online.

anyway, your penis has smegma (aka dirty) so it's unwashed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 02:29:18 2023 No.17932850 >>17932841 From what I can tell, the lighter colour comes from the colour of the dye they used, not from any washing. Unless they're misusing the term, rigid denim means unwashed. A few sites online say the denim is unwashed.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 02:32:14 2023 No.17932853 >>17932850 if you email wrangler and ask they tell you rigid != raw, they've been processed. kind of depends if you define 'raw' as loomstate or just not pre distressed though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 02:34:57 2023 No.17932855 >>17932850 indigo dye is always indigo

Anonymous Wed Dec 13 02:43:10 2023 No.17932860

>>17932853
It does depend on how you define raw. In my opinion, sanforised but unwashed still counts as raw.
>>17932855
Brother, the vast majority of blue jeans aren't even dyed using indigo, but rather synthetic replacements. Anyone who uses real indigo in the dyeing process will advertise it. Manufacturers can also dye fabric less intensively to achieve a lighter colour like this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 02:53:01 2023 No.17932873 >>17932833 thanks, that helped me. should I buy it a size up then?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 04:30:22 2023 No.17932953 >>17932873 wrangler specifically designed everything about their jeans around not being affected very much by shrinkage. go tts.

Anonymous Wed Dec 13 12:21:39 2023 No.17933267

>cheap bastard so best i can do is buy second hand levis
>ebay seller says they measure out the trousers and list them as the actual measurements, and not the fucky levis measurements
>order trousers in my size, they measured them wrong
>decide to give them another try and exchange them for a pair they claim to have properly measured
>its still the wrong size
how do i convince myself to stop dealing with this bullshit and just cough up the extra money? i want 3 jeans but the idea of paying any more than £40 per pair causes me genuine physical pain

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 22:37:04 2023 No.17934056 >>17933267 Stop being poor? Get a job? You only need one good pair of jeans to start off with.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 01:57:32 2023 No.17934266 File: 379 KB, 1444x1815, IMG_0100.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17933267

Anonymous Thu Dec 14 02:35:56 2023 No.17934326

>>17933267
>poor
europe market might be a different case but:
people buy unreturnable raw denim and get the wrong size all the time. resale value is very low on raw denim even if unworn unless it sells out. all the usual places people sell second hand clothes online are full of steeply discounted raws that got tried on once or not worn enough to have fades on them yet for $50-100. if they have some other guy's creases in them but no fades yet you can just iron them out.

Anonymous Thu Dec 14 02:39:35 2023 No.17934332

hell buying faded pairs isn't even a sin as long as the seller's willing to measure where the knee bags and honeycombs are for you & they line up to your body.
i used to give all my old raws that were too beat up for me to a friend with a similar build & iron all my creases out. he's slightly shorter than me and after a year or 2 of him wearing them they honeycombs, stacks etc would look super cool.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 04:12:03 2023 No.17934395 >>17934332 Ngl this is peak cringe. This post would get like 14 upvotes on r/rawdenim. Who the fuck wants to wear someone's sloppy seconds?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 04:56:19 2023 No.17934419 File: 114 KB, 1000x1542, 1697866348055677.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17934395 "those jeans look sick" sizes up if their thigh and inseam's the same length as mine "here take em bro" its a good excuse to expose my cock to people

Anonymous Thu Dec 14 15:36:37 2023 No.17934882

bros i just picked up a pair of levis, their premium line ones, that were so cheap i figured i'd just grab them (10 bucks) but they're 32x32 and i normally wear a 32x30. what's going to be different between my normal size and the longer inseam ones i just picked up? (other than them obviously being too long)

Anonymous Thu Dec 14 16:01:26 2023 No.17934905

>>17928525
pbj, oni, and big john japan blue (blueowl collab) that i know of, probably more, did sulfur dyed indigo jeans which will fade very slowly and more like black denim does but idk if they're still available or will get another run.
hank dyed jeans are dyed all the way to the core but will run you like $600-1000+ usually, i've seen them as low as $300 on gustin.
kaihara mills, unbranded 14oz and cone mills denim fade v slow for rope dyed jeans, they will eventually fade but it takes years. heard eternals were slow as shit too but no personal experience and sometimes i hear mixed opinions.

Anonymous Thu Dec 14 16:05:34 2023 No.17934910
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>>17934882
do you have a clean break when you wear a 30" inseam? like that's your actual measured inseam?
it'll just stack 2" on your shoes. looks better than a clean break with some outfits/shoes and worse with others. it looks good on any cut of jeans as long as you don't get a broken ankle like this guy. if you don't like it just cuff em bro.

Anonymous Thu Dec 14 23:57:13 2023 No.17935498
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should i get these? i have no black jeans i like how the weft being white gives it a little more pop than just black all the way through. they're pricy, but do you guys have any alternative recommendations for cheaper?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 00:15:52 2023 No.17935510 >>17934882 Pretty much what >>17934910 said. I like my jeans with a bit of stack unless I'm wearing boots with them, in which case I cuff them a bit.

Anonymous Fri Dec 15 00:20:24 2023 No.17935514

>>17935498
Samurai jeans are fucking amazing desu. Never owned another pair that lived up to my sammies. Would recommend. That black looks fantastic.
Im assuming you are looking at them on blue owls website.
Try denimio.com or https://www.okayamadenim.com/
Sammies (and most jap jeans) are much cheaper if you buy from japan even factoring in shipping

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 00:43:47 2023 No.17935545 >>17935514 damn, oos in my size. i'll have to think about it now, knowing i could get them $100 cheaper.

Anonymous Fri Dec 15 00:46:37 2023 No.17935552

>>17935498
>but do you guys have any alternative recommendations for cheaper?
https://www.denimio.com/en_US/j314-14oz-straight-model-black-denim-selvedge/JBJE13143A.html?pid=JBJE13143A&quantity=1
Here are those sammis on denimio
If you order em from japan they also have the back pocket stitching that they omit from the international models.
https://www.denimio.com/en_US/S5000BKII.html?pid=S5000BKII&quantity=1

Anonymous Fri Dec 15 00:48:54 2023 No.17935555

>>17935545
I mean you can look around for the model. There are sever international stores and then a bunch in japan, moat of the jp ones will ship international if you message them. Usually samurai stuff sells out pretty quickly but they do make 1-2 black models every season so i guess you could wait a few months for their spring release. You can also buy directly on their website but they have high ass prices on there iirc

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 00:59:10 2023 No.17935568 >>17935555 found a cheaper seller, not as cheap denimio but much cheaper than blue owl. thanks for the tips.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 01:38:36 2023 No.17935600 >>17934910 >>17935510 Wouldn’t jeans with a longer inseam also have a longer front rise since they’re technically made for someone who’s taller?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 01:48:28 2023 No.17935616 >>17935568 Also buying Japanese jeans you absolutely need to look at the measurements and not just buy by your waist size. Measure a pair your already own and compare

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 01:50:01 2023 No.17935623 >>17935600 Generally no Larger sizes will have a slightly longer front rise then smaller sizes, but those variations are by waist size and not inseam length. Every pair with the same waist size is going to be cut from the same pattern

Anonymous Fri Dec 15 02:00:06 2023 No.17935641

>>17935600
no, i know for a fact with levi's the only thing that changes with the inseam length is how long the leg is cut. as anon said all the measurements are tied to the waist size. mass produced jeans are made by taking a giant stack of denim, laser cutting like 10 to around 100 pairs of say, size 30's all at once. the inseams just get cut to size off of those blanks before they get sewn up. being cut in giant stacks like that are also why you can buy 2 pairs of levis with the exact same tag size and have them measure wildly differently, up to 2 tag sizes of swing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 02:32:30 2023 No.17935684 File: 2.03 MB, 1024x1215, henlo23423423.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17935623 >>17935641 hmmm. good to know in case i ever come across a pair of cheap jeans that are too long but intend to get hemmed anyway. thanks anons.

Anonymous Fri Dec 15 06:17:45 2023 No.17935873

the other day i was looking at ways guys in SE asia fake and/or accelerate their fades when i stumbled on one that i'm actually going to start doing for completely different reasons:
some of these motherfuckers will take a pair of jeans in a slimmer cut they're trying to fade for a contest or something, and wear them underneath a baggier pair of jeans. it doesn't have detrimental effects on the fades of the inside pair or make them look weird, they do it so they don't spill shit on them and to fade 2 at once.
anyways i tried on a thinner pair of sorta skinny jeans underneath the jeans i've been wearing this winter (wrangler 13mwz) and it did two things:
- you no longer get that weird sensation that feels like you have a sock stuck down your pants leg when you're wearing the baggy jeans + long johns combo and get hit in the leg by wind
- the drape on the outer pair is WAY better looking, like a night and day difference
- you can wear baggy jeans in strong winds or winds that are changing direction without them looking like shit
and its comfortable.
i'm doing this for now on.

Anonymous Fri Dec 15 08:05:35 2023 No.17935946

>>17935873
- lets you wear baggier fits before it looks bad
- 15+15oz is more durable than 30oz because the yarns arent giant
- lets you wear very heavy weights without needing a screwdriver to button them
- nigger proof secret pockets
this is actually such a good idea for winter jeans...
might have to get a pair of stretch selvedge for an inside pair...

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 08:55:52 2023 No.17935988 File: 490 KB, 800x800, 1700839413685854.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17927016 Wish I could afford those jotaro jeans.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 19:37:20 2023 No.17936665 File: 74 KB, 618x464, 1692824547966692.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] new 30oz collab dropped

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 19:47:27 2023 No.17936677 >>17928312 Even if it can you don’t have to, obviously.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 19:51:13 2023 No.17936683 >>17927016 How different is n&f’s new weird guy cut? There’s a shop near me that carries n&f maybe and I’m gonna try to figure out my fit, but I’m guessing if they have any it will be the old styles.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 19:52:16 2023 No.17936684 >>17936665 Gee, Bill

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 20:08:01 2023 No.17936701 >>17927284 That was funny anon

Anonymous Fri Dec 15 20:33:46 2023 No.17936725
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its way comfier than it sounds, more comfortable than wearing denim heavier than 21oz, but pretty warm.
these wranglers are too long on me (lolnot tailoring $20 jeans) and draped terribly without big cuffs. with a pair of jeans underneath them they look so much better.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 20:35:38 2023 No.17936727 not meming anons if you have a pair of tapered jeans and a pair of size up weight fluctuation jeans try it out

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 20:55:58 2023 No.17936753 >>17936727 Try what out you fucking newfag?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 20:57:51 2023 No.17936755 >>17936753 double denim

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 21:49:22 2023 No.17936796 >>17927411 >insectoid whitesissy confession plebswear

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 23:46:06 2023 No.17936944 Im a brainlet can someone tell me if these LEVIS are fake? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325891729326

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 01:17:33 2023 No.17937017 >>17936725 wish I kept my PRMRs these were so heat but I sized them wrong

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 01:19:37 2023 No.17937019 >>17936755 no (autism)

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 01:23:21 2023 No.17937020 >>17936944 Why would anyone fake Levis?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 01:26:53 2023 No.17937026 >>17936944 the tab should not have a capital E

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 01:27:21 2023 No.17937027 >>17937020 Not sure if this is a meme but Levi’s are probably the most counterfeited clothing in history. Maybe the most counterfeited product in general.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 01:39:07 2023 No.17937046 >>17937019 >baggy fits are in >lets you go even baggier you're afraid of unlocking your true power >>17937020 modern care label + big e looks fake

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 01:42:32 2023 No.17937052 File: 93 KB, 1170x1170, IMG_0118.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17937046 >look what they have to do to mimic even a fraction of my power

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 01:59:17 2023 No.17937066 >>17937052 already wore gstar, tripp, jnco etc in y2k i'm not a juggalo SOULJA

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 02:09:36 2023 No.17937076 >>17935988 I bought my sister a pair of the Josuke jeans for her Bday/ Christmas, I just got them in today.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 04:24:40 2023 No.17937151 Anyone in here ever experimented with a brand called Maden? I know it's chinese but it felt nicer than my pairs of Levi's. I don't know shit about denim.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 04:32:19 2023 No.17937158 >>17937151 >chinese no

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 04:41:57 2023 No.17937164 >>17927016 ROCKIN JELLY BEAN DETECTED

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 04:56:44 2023 No.17937170 File: 1016 KB, 2669x2099, IMG_1529.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17935988 >tranime jeans I wear Godzilla d’artisan raws everyday but come on man

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 04:58:57 2023 No.17937172 File: 187 KB, 250x300, 1691805900213083.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17937170 Jojo is based.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 20:23:31 2023 No.17937942 why do my jeans look like shit when viewing from the front? I look too damn wide, but from the side they're the perfect pair

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 02:10:03 2023 No.17938437 >>17937942 could be a few things, post a pic? also you might wanna check if it looks like shit in a timer shot from a bit of a distance, mirrors can be fucky with proportion.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 02:13:40 2023 No.17938441 I'm a short girl and I'm sad that straight leg jeans look terrible on me. I can literally only wear dresses. Cool.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 02:25:55 2023 No.17938454 >>17938441 that's all women should wear anyway

Anonymous Sun Dec 17 02:26:26 2023 No.17938455

>>17938441
>short girl
>straight leg looks terrible on me
nah if the upper block fits you good it will look good i've fitted denim for tons of short women ranging from slim to chubby.
check out railcar drifter https://railcarfinegoods.com/collections/drifter safe bet without knowing your body type

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 02:34:13 2023 No.17938466 https://japanblue-jeans.com/women/jeans-1/straight.html https://www.lee.com/shop/women-featured-shops-reissue? https://glasswingshop.com/collections/orslow-1 https://tcbjeans.stores.jp/?category_id=5af11151ef843f6be0000ae2 some other good 1s

Anonymous Sun Dec 17 11:28:56 2023 No.17938814
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wearing below 35oz feels like nothing now. i'm thinking of seeing how far i can push it.
hey anon who bought the 33oz soso jeans, any idea how long it takes until they're reasonable to button up?
i'm thinking about pushing it to 50oz.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 14:29:04 2023 No.17938974 >>17936944 >>17937026 The premium line does have a capital E on the tab. Those also have the label on the inner waist of the premium line. Looks legit to me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 15:24:45 2023 No.17939045 anyone with any experience with eyty denim? like some of their cuts and designs.

Anonymous Sun Dec 17 17:01:34 2023 No.17939146

>>17938814
I seriously hope you’re joking. I’ve been wearing in my IH 25 oz jeans for almost a year now and I would never get above 21 oz ever again. There is absolutely no point. The absurdly heavy weight doesn’t actually give you any extra “durability”, it is only for forming extra distinct creases and fades. The 25 oz isn’t absurdly heavy, but it’s just heavy enough to where it doesn’t ever drape and to me that’s something that I wouldn’t ever want to give up. This is why I say 21 oz is that Goldilocks zone, it has that awesome heaviness to it, but it also softens up significantly

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 17:31:12 2023 No.17939178 >>17939146 He's talking about wearing multiple pairs of jeans at once.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 18:01:06 2023 No.17939208 >>17929678 levi's are good. i just got the dark 501s the other day, 32/32 fits great. it's a shame they start to break down around the crotch after less than 2 years

Anonymous Sun Dec 17 18:22:59 2023 No.17939239
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>>17929062
There is a separate 13mwz called "ridged indigo" that's what you're after unless you prefer washed denim. The ridged indigo ones are what you should get if you want to try your hand at raws and making your own fades.

Anonymous Sun Dec 17 18:29:02 2023 No.17939252

>>17937151
Ove seen maden but haven't tried any of their stuff. If you don't mind spending a little bit more red tornado makes some really nice jeans and many of them are clones of popular cuts from other brands. Also non stock and Bronson both make some nice pairs in clasic more relaxed cuts.

Anonymous Sun Dec 17 18:30:53 2023 No.17939256

>>17939146
>This is why I say 21 oz is that Goldilocks zone, it has that awesome heaviness to it, but it also softens up significantly
I agree with your post 100% except 16oz is the Goldilocks zone and anything heavier then that will always drape weirdly.

Anonymous Sun Dec 17 18:41:48 2023 No.17939285
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>>17939239
you posted a pic of Wrangler 936DEN's actually. here's what 13MWZ looks like.
13MWZ is basically a repro of the original wrangler cowboy cuts but with a zipper fly instead of a button fly. Other than that they're unchanged.
936DEN is cowboy cut with a slimmer leg.
Wranglers are *supposed to* fit tight in the leg if you want that southern cowboy look, so if you try on 13MWZ's and they fit baggy (pinch the fabric on the side of your thigh, if you can get more than a thumb width its too loose) then return em and try out 936DEN's sized up 1 in the waist. The fit's really similar but works better on a lot of guys.
That being said there's nothing wrong with wearing wranglers like anti-fit, I'm doing it right now >>17936725 if you want an antifit jean that doesn't make your ass flat 13MWZ is it.
Other fit options in rigid:
There's a boot cut and 2 relaxed cuts with different upper blocks. One of em isn't made anymore but should be easy to find deadstock on ebay without markup.
And there's also Rustler jeans, which are made by wrangler and the same denim weight but with right hand twill and simplified less cowboy-ish details ex: bar tacked pockets etc. The straight and boot cut come in rigid and raw black/black. They fit like a middle ground between 13MWZ and 936DEN with a slimmer upper block. VERY nice cut on some guys. Esp tall skinny lads.

Anonymous Sun Dec 17 18:56:46 2023 No.17939317

>>17939146
I'm wearing 2 jeans at once, a 19.4oz skinny low-in-the-front-high-in-the-back rise pair underneath a 14.75oz anti-fit high rise pair.
It sounds
>There is absolutely no point. The absurdly heavy weight doesn’t actually give you any extra “durability”, it is only for forming extra distinct creases and fades.
Totally correct! And I hate the myth that heavy denim is more durable. The bigger the yarns are the less abrasion resistant the denim becomes, and abrasion is usually what kills denim before anything else.
The most durable denim is probably between 12-15oz, hard to pinpoint exactly which end of that range. Which is why the arms race to make heavier denims in America ended when Levi's got to around 12oz and Wrangler around 15.
But heavier denim and thicker denim is more protective. Throw on some 12oz jeans and get down on your knees, then do the same in some 21oz's. Then consider if your life involves doing that all day. Same applies if you're shooting grinder sparks at your legs all day or something along those lines. I think real world 17-21oz is the goldilocks zone for tradies, give or take with climate and how stationary your job is.
I'm the kind of person where I don't fear damage to my jeans a) i went a little denim crazy a few years back and i have more unworn raws than i know what to do with and b) i like the look of repaired denim, people pay thousands of dollars for designer hand distressed sashiko jeans. i've been wearing jap selvedge for 20 years (50% tradie hard labor life 50% normie desk job life) and never had a pair get so damaged they can't be mended.
>Drape
Lighter denim drapes better when its new and starchy, but IMO heavier denims drape the best when they've been worn a few years, washed a few times, and re-stretched to your body.
The best thing you can do for your drape regardless of denim weight is not washing your jeans though. Jeans take about 30 wears after washing to drape right.

Anonymous Sun Dec 17 19:00:28 2023 No.17939321

>It sounds
char limit cucked
It sounds uncomfortable but its actually one of the more comfy ways I've layered my legs for winter weather. Not quite as comfy as sweatpants underneath jeans (yeezy/homeless chinese man-core) or techwear layering but its not far behind.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 19:18:25 2023 No.17939355 File: 3.15 MB, 3348x2016, 1684808379259907.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Japan Blue JB0101 thousands of wears, 1 wash, 2 unintentional soaks

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 20:37:21 2023 No.17939490 Any jeans as comfy as visvim 01's around? My current pair is getting holes in the knees

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 20:39:37 2023 No.17939493 File: 2.29 MB, 2906x1424, 8C7FC8BD-1874-47D0-BA17-AAAAB61A7C9C.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] having trouble picking between the blues

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 20:47:01 2023 No.17939514 What do you do to make your jeans less greasy and smelly without washing them

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 21:21:18 2023 No.17939585 Is there any point in raw if I wash weekly? I’m in construction and desu a week is pushing it.

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>>17939493
these ones for me but that center seam on far right is pretty cool too.

>>17939585
>wash weekly
you can get sick fades washing weekly especially if they're seeing hard wear. over time that vintage style fade has become really desirable actually. you get a bunch of cool effects on the denim, particularly a lot more seam puckering and roping around the seams, that you'd otherwise never achieve when going for high contrast denimbro fades. if you look up vintage pairs of levis from the first half of the last century the end result's like that.
>any point
jeans are gonna last longer if they haven't been sandblasted and dremeled up to look worn in before you buy them. you don't have to go with raws though. stone wash is just as viable if you want to trade off some longevity for that soft immediately broken in feel.
>expensive selvedge shit
depends on your level of wabi-sabi bro. i love the look of a weft stained over years of grime that will never quite washed out. repairs look cool. i saw a pair of raws on sufu the other day where a guy spilled battery acid down his leg accidentally on a brand new pair of raws, rotted half the leg away, and they looked sick after a major patching job and a few years wear.
if you can stomach fucking nice jeans up during that phase when they're brand new its kinda fun -- but i try not to wear them on days i know i'm going to be painting and shit like that.
if you're not a dedicated sperg like that and just want good raw jeans for work -- rustler and wrangler bro. they also come in stone wash.
expensive selvedge?
raws in general? absolutely. your jeans are going to last longer if they aren't faded by paco's sandblaster and scratched up by a dremel, simple as. stone wash & dark stone wash is a solid choice for construction as well, if you want immediate comfort without a huge durability hit.
you can get real good fades with
the way i

Anonymous Sun Dec 17 21:40:45 2023 No.17939615
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>>17939493
far left double knee ones for me but that center seam on far right is pretty cool too.

>>17939585
>wash weekly
you can get sick fades washing weekly especially if they're seeing hard wear. over time that vintage style fade has become really desirable actually. you get a bunch of cool effects on the denim, particularly a lot more seam puckering and roping around the seams, that you'd otherwise never achieve when going for high contrast denimbro fades. if you look up vintage pairs of levis from the first half of the last century the end result's like that.
>any point
jeans are gonna last longer if they haven't been sandblasted and dremeled up to look worn in before you buy them. you don't have to go with raws though. stone wash is just as viable if you want to trade off some longevity for that soft immediately broken in feel.
>expensive selvedge shit
depends on your level of wabi-sabi bro. i love the look of a weft stained over years of grime that will never quite washed out. repairs look cool. i saw a pair of raws on sufu the other day where a guy spilled battery acid down his leg accidentally on a brand new pair of raws, rotted half the leg away, and they looked sick after a major patching job and a few years wear, picrel.
if you can stomach fucking nice jeans up during that phase when they're brand new its kinda fun -- but i try not to wear them on days i know i'm going to be painting and shit like that.
if you're not a dedicated sperg like that and just want good raw jeans for work -- rustler and wrangler bro. they also come in stone wash.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 21:46:36 2023 No.17939627 >>17939493 2nd from right is the most interesting followed by the right most, blue-wise.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 21:50:44 2023 No.17939635 i also meant the blue ones in my post, i wasn't counting the other ones.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 21:51:36 2023 No.17939637 >>17939615 Okay thanks for the info. I did look at those rustlers earlier. Is the sizing pretty standard? Also wondering if maybe there’s something in between rustlers and unbranded. Or maybe the rustlers are just fine.

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>>17939637
tts on the rustlers.
there's a whole bunch of usa workwear brands doing raws sub $100. half of them call the finish raw half of them call it rigid when searching. farming stores tractor supply etc carries them.
wrangler rustler roundhouse carhartt dickies prison blues stan ray etc theres a lot more look around. you can find 5 pocket jeans patterns and painter/carpenter pants readily. and double knees. suspender button + double knee combo can be tricky to find these days without going over $100. most will be like $50-85ish.
quality wise, its really all the same other than construction features. stuff like triple needle, more complex patterns like carpenter pants, shit like that.
non denim: carhartt, tough duck, etc duck pants are sweet too. they don't fade and age the same way, or nearly as fast, but they do and its cool. more flexible and breathable too. walmart carries tough duck & their hi-vis shit is nice if you ever need not shitty hi-vis gear.

Anonymous Sun Dec 17 22:28:56 2023 No.17939701

>>17939637
oh one big thing that helps making shit last longer, and might let you get more wears per wash (depending if you're spilling shit on them, or just sweating)
rotate a few pairs, and if possible with your living situation hang them when not wearing so they can air out. even better if you can outside in the sun when weather allows.
it really kills smellz especially when/if they can get uv. and giving the sweat a chance to dry out really slows down crotch/knee blow outs.
when i'm min/maxing cheap on the job i usually just swap between a pair of black/indigos of the $12 rustlers and a pair or two of double knee chinos depending on what the day calls for.
& also those tan color canvas carhartt type jackets (i think other brands are a better value these days) patina super well on the job if you put the time in & are just really well suited jackets for construction. sorta off topic but i big recommend if you don't have one. you can get em waxed too if you work outside in the rain.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 22:58:40 2023 No.17939742 >>17939701 Sweet, thanks dude appreciate the info

Anonymous Mon Dec 18 03:37:34 2023 No.17940063

Are 501 stf worth it? Seems like everyone has their own method to shrink. When to shrink (immediately vs after a month of wear). How much they shrink - some say 4 inches in length some say 1.5 inches….

Seems like the cuts pretty nice I guess they’re not too bougie which appeals to me….

Anonymous Mon Dec 18 05:05:35 2023 No.17940135

>>17940063
full price? nah. on sale like they are all the time? for sure. you can try on non stfs to see if you like the cut.
there's a bunch of weird advice for them because its such a common babby's first unsanforized denim AND on top of that they're vanity sized so the tag size isn't really what they measure. they're just any old unsanf denim.

ok let me tl;dr you on unsanf:
they'll shrink 6-10% in all directions, some dimensions will stretch back some won't based on what parts of the jeans get tension on them.
waist: tts or +1. it'll stretch back anything it shrinks with wears. if you plan to wash a lot or just want a looser fit in the thigh +1 it. if you're a larger waist size you might need to +2.
501stfs are vanity sized in the waist so if you're shopping online you might need to adjust slightly to get a perfect fit, i'm not up to date on how much they're vanity sized.
length: +2-3 inches depending on if you have a short or long inseam
(remember all this is based on % do the math if you're not sure)
shrink them immediately so the creases set in the right places. soaked denim fades just as good as fully raw denim. you want them to shrink and the threads to tighten right away fades will be better.
shortcut that only really works on 501s bc so readily available: try on non stf 501s of the same model, not premium ones etc, find the fit you want and +8% all the measurements.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 05:10:03 2023 No.17940140 you can also wiggle those suggestions a bit depending on how you want it to fit, 501 looks good anywhere from fitting close in the thigh to slightly sized up as a baggier workwear fit. it has enough taper to not look sloppy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 05:25:35 2023 No.17940146 >>17940140 >>17940135 Awesome saving this. Thanks they’re on sale right now too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 05:30:14 2023 No.17940149 >>17940146 the raw and black raw trucker jackets go on sale for $20-30 sometimes too, if you have the build for a type 3. very slow faders, don't shrink, crazy value.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 14:54:44 2023 No.17940505 >>17940135 Thanks, I was just about to ask about 501s Stf

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 15:21:06 2023 No.17940529 File: 855 KB, 1944x2592, PXL_20231210_005030370.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Bros im now a selvedge convert. These are the nicest jeans I've ever owned. I picked them up at an outlet mall BR. Close up pic

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 16:08:22 2023 No.17940568 File: 185 KB, 1600x900, jean genie.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Wrangler 13MWZ, 33x36. don't know what to do, they fit right on the waist but I feel like it looks too wide/big on me. Should I try the slim version? (936)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 16:13:34 2023 No.17940577 >>17940568 forgot to ask if they shrink, maybe they'll fit better after a few washes?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 19:47:39 2023 No.17940874 S/S '24 preview for Naked and Famous https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNSpxFg9An8

Anonymous Mon Dec 18 19:52:45 2023 No.17940880

>>17940135
>shortcut that only really works on 501s bc so readily available: try on non stf 501s of the same model, not premium ones etc, find the fit you want and +8% all the measurements.
Hard disagree. The fit changes so much from year to year and model to model to the point where some 501s fit like skinny jeans, others are loose, and none have a high front or back rise. STFs are a lot more consistent and should be sized by thigh.
>sticc legs? TTS
>first year lifter with 'big' legs? Up 1
>several years of squatting/cycling/soccer under your belt? Up 2 and wear a belt
>4pl8 for reps? 501s arent gonna happen for you

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 19:55:20 2023 No.17940891 >>17940568 I think you'd be ok with a 32w

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 21:51:13 2023 No.17941163 >>17940529 crisp ID enjoy em son

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 21:52:13 2023 No.17941165 >>17940568 go with the 32

Anonymous Mon Dec 18 22:44:37 2023 No.17941248

>>17940880
true you're right its shit advice.
this only works at stores that sell 501 stf like kohls where you can guarantee its the same 501.
>>17940568
either go down a waist size on 13mwz or try 936 at this waist size.
either will probably look good on you. pinch the side of your thigh and show how much excess fabric there is if you want my opinion on which one i'd personally do.
>>17940577
wonder what denim mill they use these days... my guess is kaihara since they're owned by gap. if that's the case they should fade pretty slow, but very beautifully. nice jeans!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 23:40:02 2023 No.17941320 >>17939285 Are the Raw black called raw black or coal black?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 23:41:18 2023 No.17941322 >>17941320 coal black

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 23:46:22 2023 No.17941325 >>17939701 Who's double knee chinos do you recommend? Is that a walmart item too? Who do you recommend for canvas jackets on the low price? What brands are worth grabbing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 18 23:58:47 2023 No.17941343 >>17941322 Thanks cool I ordered 2 coal black 2 rigid

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 01:18:00 2023 No.17941432 >>17941325 good question, i've been asking that myself ever since carhartt went down in quality and up in price. for the jacket i was looking at tough duck. some fucker stole my vintage carhartt out of my friend's truck.

Anonymous Tue Dec 19 01:19:21 2023 No.17941437

>>17940880
What do you mean the 501 fit varies. Are you talking the non stf? But the stf never changes?

I have big thighs. Don’t lift anymore but used to squat 2 pl8 for reps. Now I’m confused. Should I just try on stf and find one that fits okay then go 2 sizes bigger? My normie jeans lately fit good in thigh and taper nice on the calves slightly even though they are “straight cut” but borderline tight in thighs. This denim world is even more convoluted than boots.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 01:20:46 2023 No.17941441 >>17941437 Meant to say they fit good in waist but tight in the thighs.

Anonymous Tue Dec 19 01:43:17 2023 No.17941467

>>17941437
>Now I’m confused.
+0 in the waist +2 in length
if you're a bigger guy +1 in the waist +3 length
if you want a looser fit in the thighs +1 the waist from the above suggestions, you might need to belt. based on your post i might suggest that.
>What do you mean the 501 fit varies. Are you talking the non stf? But the stf never changes?
Levi's tweaks how the 501 fits every few years, that's why people pay so much for vintage ones.
>even though they are “straight cut”
501 is a "straight cut" like that too.
>This denim world is even more convoluted than boots.
you picked an unsanforized denim that uses vanity sizing as your first rodeo, this is basically as complicated as it gets.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 02:09:21 2023 No.17941498 File: 130 KB, 738x1313, IMG_0159.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] are my pants too tight /fa/?

Anonymous Tue Dec 19 02:09:53 2023 No.17941499
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>borderline too tight in the thigh
>anon who asked the same thing earlier
bear with me i can't find my camera stand so the photos are going to suck. here's the pinch test jay from blueowl taught me. it accomplishes a "proper" or "menswear" or "reddit mfa" fit every time, adjust accordingly to your tastes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 02:11:21 2023 No.17941501 >>17941498 thighbro i kneel

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 02:23:58 2023 No.17941523 >>17941499 This is very helpful thank you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 02:41:48 2023 No.17941541 >>17941498 not tight enough, need to see more skindentation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 03:16:27 2023 No.17941565 >>17941432 Is tough duck a walmart brand? Thinking about getting some 874s dickies I had some black and sands. I might have to get from parents house.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 03:32:38 2023 No.17941582 >>17941565 dickies are solid for cheap beaters, oh yeah i forgot they make a double knee 874 by the way. walmart does indeed have tough duck you'll also find it at tractor supply and shit like that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 03:35:53 2023 No.17941588 File: 1.31 MB, 1250x1500, 1_94c54d6b-b510-433b-b84d-81c33c124bca_1250x.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] thinking of picking this up from Anatomica in japan next week thoughts?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 03:36:37 2023 No.17941589 >>17941582 Cool cool Def I'll look into it. Mostly adding to wardrobe. Been trying to do more thrifting and shopping around.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 03:38:29 2023 No.17941591 >>17941582 Hoping to find a chorecoat or a denim jacket or work shirts

Anonymous Tue Dec 19 03:38:58 2023 No.17941592
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here's some coal black rustler's that got washed almost every single wear. even without contrast fades they age pretty cool and net a bunch of compliments now that i retired them to fashion use.
>>17941588
i've always wanted a chore coat. if you have the balls to pull off that railway conductor look that jacket fucks. beautiful denim and nice pattern. i like the contrasting bar tacks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 03:59:38 2023 No.17941617 Thoughts on Uniqlo?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 04:04:47 2023 No.17941623 What’s the pros and cons of stretch raw denim?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 04:07:14 2023 No.17941627 >>17941623 pros: if you're fat but want to wear skinny fits, it'll stretch more cons: ages like shit as the elastic part wears out unevenly and it gets baggy in weird places

Anonymous Tue Dec 19 04:09:35 2023 No.17941630
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>>17941623
pros: comfy as shit
cons: blowouts and rips happen a lot faster, waist stretches out unless you size way down, eventually they get shitty from the wash (non issue for denimbros)
myths: some people say they don't fade as good, that's a load of shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 04:09:44 2023 No.17941631 >>17941627 Not fat. Sounds good I’ll pass. Wasn’t sure if the “2 percent” or whatever was really too relevant. Apparently it is. Thanks.

Anonymous Tue Dec 19 04:10:56 2023 No.17941633 [DELETED]

>>17941631
yeah if you're looking at uniqlo they stopped selling everything except the skinny fit stretch in the usa for some reason. they still sell the other shit in europe and asia.
uniqlos are also a gamble between getting giga slow or giga fast faders, for some reason.

Anonymous Tue Dec 19 04:12:09 2023 No.17941635

>>17941631
yeah if you're looking at uniqlo they stopped selling everything except the skinny fit stretch in the usa for some reason. they still sell the other shit in europe and asia.
uniqlos are also a gamble between getting giga slow or giga fast faders, for some reason.
gap selvedge on sale is a solid alternative you can find in america. they source their selvedge from the same place as uniqlo. don't pay full price they always go on sale for 40bux.

Anonymous Tue Dec 19 04:15:20 2023 No.17941640

>>17941630
More confirmation. Seems the same as boots. More comfort off the bad always seems to be bad. Sacrsficing immediate comfort for longevity isn’t what I’m into. I don’t mind breaking in boots in fact I’ve come to enjoy it. Imagine it would be the same with denim?

>>17941635
I’m seeing exclusively “slim” on their website. Not sure if this is the same as skinny? I’m the pretty muscular thigh anon from earlier so I’m going to guess this might not be a good fit for me? Wasn’t sure about skinny vs slim. I’ll check out gap either way. Thanks.

Anonymous Tue Dec 19 04:27:41 2023 No.17941655

>>17941640
"slim" is technically supposed to mean a skinny leg with no taper...
but in uniqlo marketing terms the ones they call "slim-fit" are skinny tapered jeans and the ones they call "slim straight" are a true straight cut jean with no taper. i have a pair and i'm not sure why they call them slim at all, they're a normal ass straight cut.
and yeah if you're muscular avoid skinny jeans that aren't relaxed thigh athletic cut. you can get tapered ankle skinny jeans for your build but they're cut way different. examples: https://www.blueowl.us/collections/all-products/denim-athletic

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 07:03:08 2023 No.17941780 >>17941617 Reddit brand that stopped being good in 2018 when they were peak r/mfa-core

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 07:16:20 2023 No.17941790 >>17940529 durr i quoted the wrong post >wonder what denim mill they use these days... my guess is kaihara since they're owned by gap. if that's the case they should fade pretty slow, but very beautifully. nice jeans!

Anonymous Tue Dec 19 20:59:05 2023 No.17942378
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>>17927016
What brand or fit of jeans are good for guys with big dicks? I don't want my balls crushed wearing stylish jeans no matter how good they look.

Anonymous Tue Dec 19 23:56:43 2023 No.17942553
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>>17941592
Yeah gotta be a second hand piece I think been thrifting wild for one or old work jacket work shirt types. Picked up a ralph lauren sweat shirt. Should look dope with a plaid under it and some rustlers or mwz13. any other pieces you recomend?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 23:58:40 2023 No.17942555 >>17941635 What would they be labeled as?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 19 23:59:54 2023 No.17942558 >>17942378 Wrangler mwz13

Anonymous Wed Dec 20 01:35:17 2023 No.17942631

What’s a nice pair for under 100 ideally but definitely under 200 for a straight cut that has nutsack room for a first pair? Nothing too fancy/hipser looking. Not trying to stand out just want well fitting decent quality to try this out before shelling out big bucks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 03:55:46 2023 No.17942804 >>17942631 wrangler 13mwz

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 04:46:41 2023 No.17942838 >>17942804 I just can’t dig the cut. Little too redneck for me personally.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 13:52:55 2023 No.17943129 File: 100 KB, 564x719, ab9eb443d58ff19dc6f682ea441cf55b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17942631

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 15:55:21 2023 No.17943233 >>17943129 w2c

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 18:50:46 2023 No.17943400 >>17927330 just cavalli, diesel (both on sale)

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 18:56:59 2023 No.17943405 >>17942804 Go for the wrangler 936

Anonymous Wed Dec 20 20:32:39 2023 No.17943524

>>17942631
>>17942838
tcb jeans, slightly over 100 but worth it.
everything around and under 100 is going to either look western/rednecky, be an indonesian brand, or be nut crushers.
>>17943233
tcb jeans 1920 1 wash
>>17942555
gap? they'll just call it [whatever fit] selvedge. they sell raw and pre-distressed.
its hit or miss but their pre-distressed washes can actually be pretty decent -- some of the better stuff i've seen below rrl/orslow/etc prices.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 20 22:10:02 2023 No.17943645 i wanna get the golden handshake brave stars in tru straight. how’s the fit? should i go tts or get an inch up?

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