/fa/ - Fashion - #17923946

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/tip/ - Trad Ivy Prep General Anonymous Wed Dec 6 22:43:51 2023 No.17923946 [Reply] [Original]

Down vest edition

previous: >>17912057

>FORUMS
www.forums.filmnoirbuff.com
askandyaboutclothes.com/viewforum.php?id=13
www.styleforum.net/forums/classic-menswear.5/forum
www.reddit.com/r/NavyBlazer
thecurriculum.net/forum

>BLOGS
American
www.ivy-style.com
oxfordclothbuttondown.com
www.saltwaternewengland.com
sartorialtalks.com/en
www.necktiesalvage.com
www.permanentstyle.com

European
thelandlessgentry.blogspot.com
tweedlandthegentlemansclub.blogspot.com
bespokeunit.com
www.manolo.se
claseleganciaydistincion.blogspot.com

>Not being updated anymore
www.mreero.com
anaffordablewardrobe.blogspot.com
alexandergrant.blogspot.com
inner-city-style.blogspot.com
thetrad.blogspot.com
maxminimus.blogspot.com
theivyleaguelook.blogspot.com
www.fivepointfox.com
www.dressdecoded.com

>READS/BOOKS/ALBUMS
https://pastebin.com/JUHD4Hwu
https://pastebin.com/SMMg3tK9
Quick guide to prep: www.mreero.com/journal/how-to-dress-like-a-prep
Gentleman's Gazzete info on /TIP/: pastebin.com/QrNDDG60
The Preppy Handbook: issuu.com/fiyero109/docs/toph
Nautical clothing guide: epochs.co/features/epochs-guide-to-nautical-clothing?p=nauticalpost
Boat shoe lacing guide: web.archive.org/web/20200926215557/https://blog.sperry.com/stories/style/lacing-guide/
Waxing Barbours: www.saltwaternewengland.com/2019/09/waxing-barbour.html
Dating vintage Brooks:
putthison.com/dating-brooks-brothers-shirts-i-was-cleaning-up-my
Loafer anatomy:
thesecondbutton.com/how-to-talk-about-loafers

>Brands:
Spier & Mackay
Ralph Lauren
Mr. Porter
Brooks Brothers
J. Press
O’Connells
Barbour
Sperry
L.L. Bean
Bill's Khakis
Andover Shop
Knitwear:
InverAllen
Jamiesons Shetland
Bosie
Shoes:
Alden
Allen Edmonds
Rancourt
Eastland Shoe
Quoddy
Russell Moccasin Co
Oak Street Bootmakers
Yuketen
Meermin

Anonymous Wed Dec 6 22:44:56 2023 No.17923947
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>>17923946
>Instagrams

Prep:
https://www.instagram.com/kjp/
https://www.instagram.com/muffyaldrich
https://www.instagram.com/dixielandtrad/
https://www.instagram.com/sweatbrah/
https://www.instagram.com/josephcrabb/
https://www.instagram.com/wmbrownproject/
https://www.instagram.com/pjhavel/
https://www.instagram.com/seangaleburke/
https://www.instagram.com/howieguja/
https://www.instagram.com/sophieschumacher0/
https://www.instagram.com/carly/
https://www.instagram.com/abbycapalbo/
https://www.instagram.com/jackiegreaney/
https://www.instagram.com/kileyskeff/
https://www.instagram.com/prepfamily.nl/
https://www.instagram.com/happypreppy/
https://www.instagram.com/navybluecardigan

Trad:
https://www.instagram.com/acutestyle/
https://www.instagram.com/tintinfellow/
https://www.instagram.com/andreasweinas/
https://www.instagram.com/thelandlessgentry/
https://www.instagram.com/kleidsam/
https://www.instagram.com/parisian_gentleman/
https://www.instagram.com/eleanoraudet/
https://www.instagram.com/sonyaglyn/
https://www.instagram.com/typicallytrad/
https://www.instagram.com/frontporchlifemn/
https://www.instagram.com/houndstooth_and_herringbone/

Ivy:
https://www.instagram.com/benton.down/
https://www.instagram.com/oxfordclothbuttondown/
https://www.instagram.com/arnoldsteiner/
https://www.instagram.com/took_ivy/
https://www.instagram.com/dick.carroll/
https://www.instagram.com/georgewbush/
https://www.instagram.com/psy3927/
https://www.instagram.com/loafers_etc/

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 6 23:45:33 2023 No.17924043 >>17923946 Spier & Mackay has a sale on outerwear right now btw

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 00:06:49 2023 No.17924091 Any quality companies making christmas sweaters right now? Ideally more than just a winter-shade fair isle. I seem to recall Alan Paine doing a Rheindeer sweater a while back.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 01:03:13 2023 No.17924171 File: 75 KB, 640x640, rnCT07ia.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Mostly fleece vests in my folder but that's probably acceptable prep

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 01:04:41 2023 No.17924173 File: 68 KB, 639x639, PGtvyE6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17924171

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 01:05:43 2023 No.17924175 File: 178 KB, 1280x962, 3rhsWRnx.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17924173 Actually found a few down/puffer ones

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 01:06:45 2023 No.17924177 File: 52 KB, 500x375, GZ7osyO.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17924175

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 01:07:46 2023 No.17924178 File: 74 KB, 500x500, tevyD4o.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17924177

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 01:08:28 2023 No.17924179 >>17924175 Nice cock.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 01:10:08 2023 No.17924181 >>17924178 think that's it from my folder can't be fucked to do it but next one needs to be duffle coat edition. finally broke mine out last week.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 01:20:11 2023 No.17924195 >>17924171 I know this kind of thing is common for genuine WASPs these days, but i cant stand fleece. Just a gross fabric.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 01:26:23 2023 No.17924201 >>17924195 i work in finance so it's pretty ubiquitous in my world and have always worn it as an outer layer for lighter hikes. but can't stand it for fashion where i actually have a "choice"

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 02:00:04 2023 No.17924234 >>17924195 No, it's more of an urban yuppie and techbro thing. Long-sleeve synchillas specifically also get some frat bro wear.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 05:01:14 2023 No.17924408 File: 1.18 MB, 2448x3264, 20231206_205408_2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My clothes today. I think the other guy with shaggy hair got scared off.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 05:29:31 2023 No.17924440 >>17924408 Why would i be scared of a faggot like you, I havent gone anywhere dressed tip this last week

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 05:37:55 2023 No.17924445 >>17924440 its just a joke bro ive never even replied to you, have fun calling people fags while posting your face and college though lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 05:45:40 2023 No.17924449 >>17924445 I will thanks

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 06:04:22 2023 No.17924455 File: 501 KB, 800x800, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can a fleece jacket like this be incorporated into a /tip/ fit https://woolandprince.com/products/fleece-jacket-forest-night?currency=USD&variant=40254579507288&stkn=a3518d354f84

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 06:34:26 2023 No.17924474 >>17924408 Which one? The few fit posters in /TIP/ all have longish hair

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 06:40:58 2023 No.17924482 File: 608 KB, 782x898, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 07:11:58 2023 No.17924495 >>17924455 Drake's would certainly like you to think so. I dont see why you'd want to wear that instead of something real wool though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 07:18:30 2023 No.17924497 >>17924482 >>17924491 decent show, awful inspo

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 07:35:09 2023 No.17924505 >>17924495 I want one that is made of real wool. I cant find shit. All the ones that are 100% wool all have some ugly ass design or stupid ass pocket on the front of the jacket

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 07:37:22 2023 No.17924510 >>17924455 https://us.drakes.com/products/navy-casentino-wool-half-zip-pullover-fleece

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 07:40:49 2023 No.17924515 >>17924510 pockets make it look like a cheap hoodie holy shit thats ugly

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 07:59:39 2023 No.17924529 >>17924515 it's a fleece, they all do

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Anonymous Thu Dec 7 10:06:35 2023 No.17924604
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>>17924171
>>17924173
>>17924175
>>17924177
>>17924178
>forgot the skyliner
>>17924201
don't wear that shit hiking it sheds microplastics into all the water sources you hike around and poisons animals and turns the frogs/zoomers gay. fleece is so bad for the environment, especially the high pile fleeces in style right now, much moreso than other synthetic garments because it constantly sheds fibers everywhere.

Anonymous Thu Dec 7 10:08:58 2023 No.17924607

>Feuerstein had good reason to be confident, even standing in the ashes of his mill. In 1981, his team of engineers had developed a dense polyester fabric that stayed warm when wet and dried quickly. It was the first synthetic alternative to wool insulation. They called it PolarFleece®.
so trad so ivy
if you want the look save up and get the real deal or wear something else

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 11:50:54 2023 No.17924695 >>17924408 This jacket is for the springtime

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 12:03:08 2023 No.17924701 >>17924515 better than the npc shit you posted lol but >>17924529

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 12:47:39 2023 No.17924733 >>17924510 This looks thrifted

Anonymous Thu Dec 7 13:54:53 2023 No.17924779
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>>17923946
Really disappointed with Spier & Mackay's herringbone field jacket, thin material, unlined and made in China. The fabric itself is not bad and the extra interior pocket are a plus but it's absolutely not worth the $300 I paid for it. Better spent saving it for something better.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 15:21:40 2023 No.17924843 >>17924779 are field jackets supposed to be heavy weight? seems like it might supposed to be wearable in spring/summer also s&m have never marketed themselves as making in the US or Canada, they couldnt price things that low if they did

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 17:21:08 2023 No.17924977 File: 283 KB, 1001x890, shirt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this pinpoint oxford fabric?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 18:27:50 2023 No.17925067 File: 2.76 MB, 3024x2851, 20231207_121935.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17924977 looks like a regular oxford >>17924408 very nice. great cord colors, 3roll2 lapels, & grain leather >>17924440 very sane & reasonable response

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 18:51:03 2023 No.17925107 File: 1.34 MB, 1280x1019, bb020348-jpg.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this dynamic still achievable in 2023?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 18:56:55 2023 No.17925117 >>17925067 thank you

Anonymous Thu Dec 7 19:06:47 2023 No.17925137

>>17925107
No, women are children who have been raised by the government to believe that absolutely every facet of this picture is oppressive. They are thoroughly conditioned to not only resist it instinctively, but are simultaneously wired to seek it out it's total opposite.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 20:25:25 2023 No.17925260 how do you guys wear this sauna maker on summer?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 22:07:28 2023 No.17925372 >>17925260 Dont worry bro its not for ESL's anyway

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 7 23:34:03 2023 No.17925468 How to soften a sweater? I got one of those Bean Birds Eye Sweaters and the wool is a bit stiff and bunches weird. I was told never to use softener on a sweater.

Anonymous Thu Dec 7 23:50:36 2023 No.17925480

>>17925468
Just embrace it. My birdseye felt like that too but it softened up after a short while.

Also -- thrifted an 80/20 wool rayon one, older maybe 90s label, when I was in Europe. Cost pennies and though it's not pure wool it fits so much better, just a more proper cut with the armholes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 00:51:17 2023 No.17925521 Charles Tyrwhitt has a sale, 50 bucks off sweaters, use GIFTS at checkout

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 10:27:28 2023 No.17925915 File: 849 KB, 1944x2592, IMG_20231208_112022~2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Found an oxford brooks shirt made in the usa for 2€. Fiancee made me a sweater. WE ARE making it boiz.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 10:56:40 2023 No.17925936 >>17925915 close your fly

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 10:58:51 2023 No.17925940 >>17925936 His fly is closed, it’s just bursting at the seams struggling to contain his enormous nutsack.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 12:33:27 2023 No.17926047 >>17925468 >>17925480 Eucalan Lanolin Wool Wash. Worked on my Swedish Livpals jacket and old Korean War B3 Bomber, plus all of my wool socks and sweaters.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 12:36:28 2023 No.17926049 why does this board think literally anything other than adidas striped tracksuits = "trad ivy prep" and "old money" >>17925521 charles tyrwhitt is not trad, ivy, or prep

Anonymous Fri Dec 8 13:04:49 2023 No.17926076

>>17924474
Why do we all have medium long hair?
>>17925067
Damn I love zoomed in fabric pictures.
>>17925107
If you make enough money that she comfortably doesn't have to work.
>>17925468
It will break in.
>>17926049
Lol bc most /fa/ posters are brokeish teens. If you want a community where people actually know what they are talking about, you may want to look elsewhere

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 13:42:14 2023 No.17926122 >>17926049 >merino or cashmere crew neck v neck sweaters arent tip retard

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 13:43:45 2023 No.17926123 File: 2.34 MB, 1150x1572, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17924779 https://www.ralphlauren.co.jp/category/OCCASION_M/78022785.html

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 14:04:39 2023 No.17926150 >>17926122 >a sweater becomes "trad old money" as soon as it's no longer got a glittery DG logo on the back ok incel

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 14:18:00 2023 No.17926166 >>17925915 I hate button flies. It seems like it shouldnt be a problem to take an extra 10 seconds to button it, but if you're in a public restroom, that 10 seconds fiddling with your crotch feels like an eternity.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 14:20:08 2023 No.17926168 >>17926166 >but if you're in a public restroom, that 10 seconds fiddling with your crotch feels like an eternity. >not asking strangers to button your fly for you NGMI. I have met many fellow /tip/ enthusiasts by doing this

Anonymous Fri Dec 8 14:21:13 2023 No.17926170
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>>17926122
Correct, merino sweaters arent particularly ivy.
Merino is lightweight and has no texture. It's boring. A shetland sweater is full of character and properly warm. IMO if it's not cool enough for a shetland, you shouldnt even open your sweater drawer.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 16:32:39 2023 No.17926268 I bought a couple Harley shetland sweaters and they seem a couple inches too long. Is this normal? Do I just fold them at the bottom while wearing them?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 17:09:21 2023 No.17926315 >>17924604 finally someone says it. Don't even try to call yourself the T in TIP if you wear synthetic fiber garbage.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 17:10:39 2023 No.17926318 New drake's aime leon dore collab dropped and it's mid..

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 17:11:56 2023 No.17926323 >>17925915 your fiance made that sweater? Very nice. I should tell my wife to try learning knitting again

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 17:13:46 2023 No.17926327 >>17926170 boring is good when its supposed to be. If you are wearing a sweater under a blazer for example., or to match pants and mute a shirt >>17926150 no its trad when its made in the western hemisphere of animal fibers

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 17:39:25 2023 No.17926363 File: 575 KB, 1536x2048, IMG_20231208_183832~2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17926323 Yes she made me 3 sweater and she IS working on a cardigan.She is amazing. Honestly having a creative hobby IS one of the best thing someone can do.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 17:43:36 2023 No.17926375 >>17926363 Those are not their true colors but my phone really suck...

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 18:51:00 2023 No.17926482 I can't wait until my crypto bags pump hard and I finish my foreskin restoration so I can start dressing /TI/ (no P)

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 18:53:01 2023 No.17926485 >>17926268 It’ll shrink as you wash them >>17926318 Drake’s is the definition of mid

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 19:11:20 2023 No.17926512 >>17926485 I thought washing wool was terrible

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 19:46:57 2023 No.17926570 >>17926318 kino as fuck thanks for letting me know, going to try and get a piece but idk which

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 19:48:14 2023 No.17926573 >>17926570 never mind everything is already out of stock fuck

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 19:55:25 2023 No.17926585 >>17926573 >>17926570 how the fuck do people buy it this fast? does it restock?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 19:56:46 2023 No.17926586 >>17926323 Lmao just learn to knit yourself. It's easy and fun.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 20:12:19 2023 No.17926601 >>17926512 Just don't wash hot and ideally use a special cleaner with lanolin.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 20:42:19 2023 No.17926665 >>17926363 can you post the pattern

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 20:43:21 2023 No.17926669 >>17926512 it is dont listen to that retard

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 20:46:33 2023 No.17926677 >>17926315 There's an I and a P retard, like it or not (and I hate it) synthetic shit is worn by all sorts of preppies now >>17926512 it is

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 20:46:42 2023 No.17926678 >>17926665 I think she used old books from her mom ill look but im not sure;

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 20:56:28 2023 No.17926696 >>17926678 Thats giga based. Youre a lucky man anon

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 20:57:18 2023 No.17926697 >>17926696 Thanks anon :)

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 21:14:10 2023 No.17926708 >>17926669 >>17926677 I hope your unwashed wool gives you a fungal infection and kill you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 21:28:46 2023 No.17926722 >>17926708 go to a dry cleaner poorfag

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 21:39:47 2023 No.17926738 >>17926722 I was about about to ask if you were retarded but your suggestion is all the answer I would have needed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 21:49:13 2023 No.17926770 >>17926738 I was going to ask if youre an unemployable loser but your response is all the answer I would have needed

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 21:51:41 2023 No.17926772 >>17926770 I was going to ask if you were a tranny faggot but your desperate mimicry is all the answer I would have needed

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 22:29:03 2023 No.17926811 >>17926772 Trannies are all broke retards like you, imagine your dry cleaner not knowing you by name

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 22:32:57 2023 No.17926820 >>17926811 checked! LOL

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 22:34:24 2023 No.17926822 >>17926811 Your dry cleaner laughs at you behind your back for bringing sweaters to them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 22:40:50 2023 No.17926834 >>17926822 My dry cleaner sucks my dick, because people like me keep them in business. Maybe one day youll graduate from your job at walmart and youll understand

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 22:47:23 2023 No.17926845 >>17926834 Sorry, I couldn't hear you over the sound of your joints creaking from all that posturing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 22:48:31 2023 No.17926847 wtf is wrong you losers just spot wash your sweaters as needed, and handwash + airdry on towels if it's soiled the only things worth dry cleaning are trousers and coats

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 22:51:53 2023 No.17926849 File: 369 KB, 1200x1600, sdalsda.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Never owned/worn a vest before is this ok? $110, retails like $272

Anonymous Fri Dec 8 23:00:59 2023 No.17926855

>>17925915
nice sweater.
your pants look too tight tho anon

>>17926847
nah, you're wrong.
it's a good idea to dryclean sweaters too before you put them away for the summer. this will help prevent moth infestation. cedar will also help mitigate this. and of course moth balls.
but do what y'all want--you people argue about a lot of stupid shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 8 23:33:36 2023 No.17926890 >>17926845 I think theres a spill on isle 12, go clean it up wagie. Maybe if you work overtime you wont have to do your laundry at the river with the homeless

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 00:00:14 2023 No.17926912 >>17926890 Is the money in the room with us right now?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 00:45:12 2023 No.17926947 >>17926912 not in your room thats for sure

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 00:55:03 2023 No.17926951 >>17926849 Vests are functionally a bad piece of clothing to own.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 01:51:53 2023 No.17927013 >>17926947 Anon, I don't have a room here. This is a psyche ward. You've been here for almost 10 years.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 05:41:11 2023 No.17927196 File: 1.84 MB, 1120x1680, d24d9a2ec8a9707d212928d88c802e43.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm a true andover pants believer but they're deceptively hard to style

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 06:06:55 2023 No.17927214 >>17927196 I'm gonna be real with you. Ive seen the phrase various times but i dont know what an "andover pant" is.

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 06:11:35 2023 No.17927218
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>>17927214
Style of pants made by Engineered Garments, full fit with a stitched cuff. They are hard to style (in my opinion) because they usually are made of a crazy textured fabric

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 06:26:38 2023 No.17927225 What watches does /tip/ wear? Will a Tank clone look out of place on me if I mainly dress business casual?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 06:58:08 2023 No.17927250 >>17927225 1980s citizen hyper aqualand

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 15:11:24 2023 No.17927649 >>17927225 >clone it will look bad and you'll feel bad for wearing a fake watch. actions speak louder than words anon, don't be a fag

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 17:56:16 2023 No.17927875 >>17924091 Anyone? All I can find is Kiel James Patrick and all his stuff is mystery meat made in China shit now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 18:54:00 2023 No.17927966 >>17927875 They're called fair isle sweaters. https://oconnellsclothing.com/womens-sweaters/fair-isle-sweaters.html

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 19:07:03 2023 No.17927978

>>17927966
I know fair isles, I have a jamieson or two. What I mean is something more like pic related, with knit pictures of winter/christmas motifs. Something to wear to parties and the like over the holidays. Like I said I thought Alaine Paine did a sweater a few years ago with Rheindeer on it, but I can't find it now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 19:09:11 2023 No.17927983 File: 258 KB, 803x867, image_87a48efd-8344-481c-a079-d3bd3813d158_1236x1799.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17927978 Forgot pic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 19:13:03 2023 No.17927991 >>17927983 >>17927983 >>17927978 https://www.ebay.com/itm/155461941241?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28&var=455685143418&srsltid=AfmBOoqFA2dt-nrOZ_gAVVMUPGgOv9Mj3oRp3U2NtlEXC0dWy2zNyPvePQI&com_cvv=8fb3d522dc163aeadb66e08cd7450cbbdddc64c6cf2e8891f6d48747c6d56d2c

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 19:14:13 2023 No.17927992 >>17927991 >>17927983 I'm tryin for ya, bro. I know what it's like. Last season Brooks Brothers had a fair isle brown duck sweater that I loved and didnt get. now it's gone forever.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 19:19:28 2023 No.17927998 Tips for tailoring in the southwest united states? I have loafers OCBD's and chinos but its often too hot to even think of a jacket? Should I get linen sport coats as an extra layer?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 20:13:09 2023 No.17928080 >>17927992 It's really a shame companies are so inconsistent making these holiday/themed items now. It classic tip stuff holiday sweaters and patterns used to be everywhere.

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 22:01:35 2023 No.17928200
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Going to buy this Carmina jump boots. Would these work well with /tip/ or would the pointed toes make them seem too European/formal and thus incongruent with the style?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 22:03:46 2023 No.17928206 >>17928200 girls shoes

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 22:06:40 2023 No.17928207 >>17928200 I think they look too formal and terrible with more casual styles, so basically all of /tip/. Apron boots or a split toe are so much better desu.

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 22:21:18 2023 No.17928237

>>17928207
I don't think Apron boots match /tip/ well. Split toes maybe but I don't like them. I suppose Crockett and Jones Snowdons would match the style better and dress down better as well since they have the more rounded toe. Having tried the Carminas on though I really like them, to the point where it is hard to pass on them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 22:26:37 2023 No.17928244 File: 59 KB, 447x879, 81nCQlnk-AL._AC_SY879_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17928200 they would be more appropriate for pic related

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 22:28:06 2023 No.17928246

>>17928237
They still look nice and I’d get them if you would enjoy wearing them, just make an effort to make it work with whatever you are wearing. I’ve found that some of my favourite purchases were items that I knew I loved, even though they weren’t always versatile or fully keeping to a /tip/ wardrobe. It’s kind of nice to have a little bit of individuality instead of trying to follow a costume desu.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 22:44:26 2023 No.17928261 >>17928244 Kek, those aren't even pointed shoes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 9 22:46:56 2023 No.17928270 >>17928261 the kid in that pic has the wrong shoes for that outfit

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 22:51:24 2023 No.17928281

>>17927998
>Should I get linen sport coat
yes half lined or quarter lined or wool/silk/linen which has been all the rage for summer sport coats/suits. and get linen pants (not those drawstring type). it's going to be pricey though, linen is really expensive now, just as expensive as wool for some reason.

Anonymous Sat Dec 9 23:07:22 2023 No.17928289
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>>17928246
I typically do ocbd/flannel + sweater + barbour with either ranger mocs or bean boots on wet days. In Europe I think they'll work for me, since I think the sole and pebbling tones them down a bit, but now I'm second guessing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 06:59:49 2023 No.17928695 >>17924482 The only /tip/ character there is wilson with the whole preppy/golfer/jewish thing

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 14:53:40 2023 No.17929026 >>17923946 This is the worst thread in all /fa/, the worst trend, you all look like ugly grandpas

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 15:11:20 2023 No.17929036 File: 5 KB, 200x171, images (11).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17929026

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 17:58:26 2023 No.17929263 >>17928289 I'm not a fan, but if you like them then all power to you friendo

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 20:17:18 2023 No.17929522 >>17929026 Change out of your pajamas, you pavement ape.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 20:32:21 2023 No.17929545 File: 88 KB, 166x376, received_884100520043030.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Thoughts on his fit? Am I an incel for finding sneakers with suit cringe?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 20:33:18 2023 No.17929546 >>17928289 they look kinda feminine

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 20:34:32 2023 No.17929548 >>17929545 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH07p45Moy8 Forgot link

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 20:41:32 2023 No.17929559 >>17929545 sneakers with suits are so disgusting

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 20:42:48 2023 No.17929563 >>17929546 I have proportionally small feet so I the don't seem so long on me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 20:53:12 2023 No.17929581 What are good colors for shetland sweaters? I would like another in my rotation, currently only have dark green which matches great with khaki chinos and a white ocbd. I know burgundy would be a good option but I don't want to look like harry potter.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 21:15:45 2023 No.17929611 >>17929581 grey, pastel yellow, burnt orange, oatmeal

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 21:40:26 2023 No.17929646 >>17926849 Collar is weird

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 21:41:06 2023 No.17929647 Test

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 10 21:45:14 2023 No.17929648 >>17924455 Looks good with khakis, chinos, jeans, loafers, camp mocs, that sort of thing. Don’t wear it with button downs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 00:42:21 2023 No.17929869 >>17929545 Nice bait

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 01:07:31 2023 No.17929894 File: 603 KB, 1280x979, tumblr_oy4pjevUsx1trg0evo1_1280-copy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17929611 Boring af color palette, bright/saturated sweaters are a preppy classic

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 01:52:19 2023 No.17929920 >>17929894 Like the inspo and agree about sweaters but am I the only one who hates styling chocolate pants with shoes? Like the brown on brown looks wrong

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 01:58:16 2023 No.17929924 whats a good first jacket to wear for a beginner into this look

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 02:18:03 2023 No.17929941 >>17929920 It doesnt bother me too much but i do think they work best with either the exact same shade or a noticeably lighter shade

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 02:54:15 2023 No.17929973 File: 279 KB, 1440x1800, 403872764_286937677090244_4553874127288141021_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >decide to check instagram's ivy hashtag for some winter inspo >stumble upon WHAT ARE THOOOOOOSE

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 02:59:16 2023 No.17929980 >>17929973 >polish salt miner tries to dress ivy

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 03:28:35 2023 No.17930024 >>17929973 he stands like he has a bad back

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 03:49:50 2023 No.17930050 >>17929973 I hate how books have been reduced to decorations to pose in photos for clout.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 04:08:45 2023 No.17930069 File: 1.70 MB, 659x991, snip.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Posting some more general wintery inspo since this edition feels kinda dry

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 04:10:15 2023 No.17930072 File: 743 KB, 960x1280, TdQ9au6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17930069

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 04:11:17 2023 No.17930075 File: 211 KB, 971x1457, nIvCmoq.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17930072 Any1 have critter pants?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 04:12:19 2023 No.17930076 File: 389 KB, 1280x960, s3WdDBY.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17930075

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 04:13:32 2023 No.17930077 File: 261 KB, 1000x927, PTHT2Zs.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17930076 okay and one foid one, went to prep school like many and remember girls in skirts fondly

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 04:24:36 2023 No.17930083 >>17930075 How do you wear embroidered pants like this? I can see wearing cords embroidered with holiday motifs for the matching holiday, but I struggle to imagine wearing, say, chinos with pheasants on them on a typical day.

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 04:33:10 2023 No.17930089

>>17930083
Oh I agree, thought I had selected a cord one. I hate them on chinos/khakis because the pants themselves are so smooth that embroidery feels wrong.

I don't have a pair anymore but I'd wear the cords to events like parties usually with a sweater,

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 06:13:21 2023 No.17930166 >>17930075 Im not part of WASP/New England culture and it seems like something that cant be pulled off outside of it. I like to take inspiration from Ivy style, not look like i'm cosplaying as someone else.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 13:37:17 2023 No.17930508 >>17930166 Some of us actually are from that culture

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 14:44:32 2023 No.17930560
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Hi I have a question regarding shirt tailoring. I'm ordering some custom fitted shirts online. Should I tailor the chest, waist and hip of the shirt slightly to my body or should it just be a straight blouse from the armpit down? I want a very traditional "old" shirt fit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 15:37:33 2023 No.17930598 >>17929545 Blue is the plebbest color.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 16:00:37 2023 No.17930622 File: 88 KB, 376x1024, 4427dc78d20514819fa44d0363ea2f03-376x1024.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who makes quality chinos or cords right around this fit?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 16:20:25 2023 No.17930647 >>17930560 Also, what's the best weave for formal shirts? Twill, oxford or plain weave?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 17:18:23 2023 No.17930715 >>17930083 You don't

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 17:22:27 2023 No.17930721 >>17930715 (You) don't, let's not get it confused, prole

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 17:29:11 2023 No.17930733 >>17930560 Traditional fit will be roomy and straight indeed. Oxford is definitely a casual fabric. I'd say twill is the most formal

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 18:32:42 2023 No.17930805 >>17930560 Boxy/full chest with a slight taper to the hem to reduce bunching is the best of both worlds

Anonymous Mon Dec 11 18:34:04 2023 No.17930807

>>17927225
the actual Tank (the small version not whatever xbox huge ones they might also sell now) seems to work well with a wide variety of outfits despite being a "dress" watch, so I'd say no, it won't look out of place. Having said that a clone is kind of lame, if you want a tank watch but are too poor for a Cartier just look for a vintage Seiko tank. I have one and it looks wonderful but unfortunately the movement in it is broken, so I don't wear it.

Currently wearing a cheap gold tone manual-winding Timex. The seller said it's from the 70s but I have reason to believe it might be from before 1963 and it actually keeps pretty much perfect time. The first couple days I had it, it would lose a minute every 12 hours but now that I've been wearing it, it seems to have worked itself out and won't lose a minute over a whole week as long as I keep it wound.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 11 18:42:29 2023 No.17930817 File: 48 KB, 800x800, shoes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17929973

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 00:32:10 2023 No.17931243 File: 84 KB, 530x529, 1699756275464.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone has pictures of men wearing white Chuck Taylors (either high, mid or low rise, leather or canvas) with preppy clothing? Opinions/ideas/tips on how it fits the style?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 00:37:40 2023 No.17931255 File: 38 KB, 400x701, 1672896440596.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17931243 All I've found and it's not even in white

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 03:20:55 2023 No.17931444 >>17930721 Let’s see Paul Allen’s critter pants.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 09:53:53 2023 No.17931701 File: 579 KB, 1007x500, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >https://www.olderbest.com/en-us/collections/best-sellers/products/1930s-ivy-style-double-pleated-chino-trousers-yellow?variant=42883527672026

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 10:54:53 2023 No.17931742 >>17931701 Only fat fucks and pajeets in the reviews; to be avoided

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 10:59:04 2023 No.17931745 >>17931742 people with self awareness dont post pictures on clothing review websites

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 11:52:03 2023 No.17931776 >>17931742 Yeah, not sure why but it looks so LARPy in the pictures too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 11:53:21 2023 No.17931778 >>17931243 Looks fine, you don't even need pictures. It's a pretty inoffensive sneaker. I'd prefer moonstar or doek though because I find that it looks cleaner and more elegant, somehow less childlike than the actual chucks.

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 11:59:06 2023 No.17931786

>>17927225
I wonder this too. I like tank watches but when I wear them it feels like I'm wearing a bit of a costume. They also seem to be associated with a certain type of modern man, think quiet luxury/Mr Porter/The Rake types and I find that the wearers often come off as very tryhard, which I really really dislike so it's kind of turning me away from them.

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 12:50:36 2023 No.17931807
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As a chubby 30 year old man can I wear loafers to formal events?

If yes, what types should I look for? Everything I have seen felt like either ironic sexcore or grandpa-shoes

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 13:35:19 2023 No.17931840 >>17929581 w2c shetland woolies?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:08:28 2023 No.17931865 File: 164 KB, 432x541, jcrew_suit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17923946 Looking for a classic cut tweed suit to dress up my wardrobe a bit. What Brands come most recommended as far as construction quality. Are J. Crew suits any good?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:17:57 2023 No.17931879 >>17924408 Nice color pallette, but I would worry about warmth in December, but that could easily be fixed by replacing the sport coat with something heavier

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:19:01 2023 No.17931883 >>17924408 >actual good fit in /tip/ holy based.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:28:05 2023 No.17931899 >>17926708 >has clearly never worn wool in the winter Unless you throw your wool in the dryer like an absolute retard the only way you're hang drying that shit is if you live in a 3rd world country

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:30:15 2023 No.17931901 >>17931865 no >>17931899 what are you trying to say

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:32:35 2023 No.17931905 File: 284 KB, 1280x720, 170196594484830374.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17931883 >actual good fit >cant even tie his shoes properly

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:34:43 2023 No.17931908 >>17931905 post fit

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:41:12 2023 No.17931913 >>17931908 I can post my myself doing a handstand naked, that still won’t fix your shoelaces

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:53:50 2023 No.17931928 >>17931899 Do americans really lmao?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 14:57:26 2023 No.17931933 >>17931913 what a surprise little faggot trying to talk shit in jeans and a hoody

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 15:01:00 2023 No.17931937
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>>17931807
I put this article in the OP because it does a good job explaining what creates those different perceptions in a loafer. Apron toe and sleek lasts are going to have a european / sexcore look. Idk what you think grandpa core is, but a classic penny or bit loafer can be very youthful and fit casual or formal styles.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 15:07:54 2023 No.17931945 >>17931905 >not a Berluti knot It's like you're not even trying to fit in

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 15:54:16 2023 No.17932025
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>>17931937
>grampa core
I mean the very short and round toe penny loafers. I can see someone like old fart wearing pic rel to slowly waddle to the farmers market

>apron toe
I quite like this, along with tassle and horsebit. I don’t know what pic related clasp is called but I hate it

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 16:23:34 2023 No.17932072 >>17932025 You sound retarded and definitely not /tip/

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 16:25:11 2023 No.17932078 >>17932072 Post fit

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 16:32:15 2023 No.17932087 >>17932078 'post fit' is not something you just spam every time someone posts something that hurt your feelings. Of course you being a retarded post pandemic faggot wouldn't know that. Just go away, you don't belong here

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 16:35:28 2023 No.17932093 >>17931865 tweed suits should always be 3 pieces

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 16:51:01 2023 No.17932113 >>17932087 wah wah wah Gonna cry some more or actually provide the thread with interesting information with, say, a fit picture?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 17:00:45 2023 No.17932124 >>17928200 Did you buy them? If you’re looking for something more utilitarian, which I think /tip/ a lot of the time is, just look at Mitch from Hitchcock’s The Birds https://bamfstyle.com/2016/02/22/birds-mitch5-tweedcargo/

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 17:01:03 2023 No.17932125 >>17924408 looking good >>17931778 thanks for reply and recommendations

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 17:44:31 2023 No.17932190 >>17931913 >>17932087 post fit

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 17:57:49 2023 No.17932209 >>17929920 that's why you are supposed to wear socks to break it up, like he's doing in the pic. get good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 17:59:38 2023 No.17932211 >>17930083 in any casual, yet slightly dressy, setting. if you are getting together with friends for a party, a bbq, family reunion etc. it's about having fun, so you also have to be 'that kind of person'

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 18:00:31 2023 No.17932215

>>17932124
Not yet, I'm trying to see if there is a combination of options to make them look less overridingly formal and european. I'm really attached to the Tempesti Elbamatt leather though and not aware of another company on the level of Carmina that uses it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 18:35:14 2023 No.17932263 File: 64 KB, 768x826, IMG_1995.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17924408 PT?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 18:46:09 2023 No.17932294 >>17932215 It’s probably fine honestly. First boot I ever bought was the Bexley Enfield which I still have and they look as pointy as the Carmina’s and they look fine.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 18:49:25 2023 No.17932301 >>17931937 I don't like this fit, somehow nothing goes well together, the loafers are ugly, the cap too, it's put together very shittily

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:28:07 2023 No.17932356 >>17931905 Autism

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 19:57:10 2023 No.17932380 File: 67 KB, 575x720, soller.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17932294 It's not just the pointedness I think, but the very slim profile.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 20:16:38 2023 No.17932398 >>17931905 Yeah i dont give a fuck and am not going to do that

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 20:18:15 2023 No.17932401 >>17932025 Forgot to actually link the article i mentioned thesecondbutton.com/how-to-talk-about-loafers The pic you posted is a mock toe penny loafers with beefrolls

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 21:49:30 2023 No.17932509 >>17924843 They have the same style but differ in climate used. I think you might mistook it for a safari jacket, which is for hotter climate and light tone. While Field jacket is heavier and for colder climate, often in dark/earth tone.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 21:53:22 2023 No.17932512 >>17925940 Dobut it, most likely kino skinny pants with no pleats

Anonymous Tue Dec 12 21:57:53 2023 No.17932518

>>17926855
I have to agree with >>17926847. Wool mark also redccommend this.
Contrary to what most believe, dry cleaning is one of the harshest methods for cleaning.
I would handwash in cold water with wool detergent, and lanolize 2% my wool garments every 5-8 washes to maintain the natural oil.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 22:39:09 2023 No.17932565 >>17932509 Yep thats what i was thinking of

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 12 23:39:53 2023 No.17932624 >cringe larp general

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 01:29:33 2023 No.17932758 File: 182 KB, 714x1024, IMG_1063.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17923946 What other shoes can you wear with chino shorts?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 01:55:51 2023 No.17932805 File: 121 KB, 352x371, wool_coat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17923946 Is this jacket tip ? Not really into this style but got this coat cheap and really like it. Will people think I'm a faggot for wearing it ?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 01:57:28 2023 No.17932808 >>17932624 Braindead zoomer

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 01:58:18 2023 No.17932811 >>17932805 they will if you wear a hoodie under it. Its basic babies first /tip/ coat

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 02:06:04 2023 No.17932818 >>17932087 >>17931913 Shocking, no fits

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 02:09:11 2023 No.17932824 >>17932805 1.) Yes, pea coats are quintessential /tip/ 2.) Learn to style it properly. Don't wear it with a hoodie please, for God's sake 3.) Buttons have same rules as a suit jacket. Botton the top button, always leave the bottom button unbuttoned

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 02:16:45 2023 No.17932831 >>17932758 birkenstocks

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 02:20:01 2023 No.17932834 >>17932818 Go back to re ddit pandemic faggot

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 02:26:12 2023 No.17932845 File: 34 KB, 448x381, 1442604697594.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17932834 stop projecting, it's embarrassing

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 02:34:37 2023 No.17932854 >>17932845 Stop trying to fit in, it's not working. You do not belong here. Go back

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 02:52:00 2023 No.17932871 >>17932818 they never do

Anonymous Wed Dec 13 03:09:26 2023 No.17932896
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>>17932758
I mean, cordovan/burgundy loafers are a go-to, but I trash them to shit between BBQs and bonfires, have taken to almost totally thrifting barely worn Dexter loafers.

Lots of people have fucked up feet and can't take loafers I guess. Hoping my arches stay happy.

>>17932805
>>17932824
Peacoats are kino, go Boondock Saints with straight blue jeans, or real /tip/ with the rest of the oufit. I never button bottom obviously but sometimes also leave top unbuttoned, same on peacoats, just to not cram my suit.

Don't wear with a hoodie. Only did that going to class hungover. With a crewneck preferably alma mater is acceptable.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 03:10:27 2023 No.17932897 >>17932896 Meant same on duffel coats I'm drunk

Anonymous Wed Dec 13 05:55:32 2023 No.17933013
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I see flannel in tip sometimes, but were heavier wool flannels like this ever used as layers within the fashion? I came into a vintage woolrich similar to this but blue, and am considering removing the pockets and using it as a layer under a sweater and jacket on particularly freezing days.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 06:02:14 2023 No.17933017 File: 105 KB, 913x1024, IMG_0995.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17932758 Loafers, sandals, blucher/camp mocs, espadrilles, desert boots, even some suede derbies like Hugh Grant in Four weddings and a funeral.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 06:07:06 2023 No.17933024 >>17933013 wool board shirts are very west coast which by definition is not /tip/

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 06:14:39 2023 No.17933028 >>17933024 I'm not sure what qualifies as a board shirt. Bean has always made shirts with an equivalent construction, usually in buffalo check or plain colors.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 15:24:27 2023 No.17933432 What is the most casual shoe you can think of which is most like a sneaker, but not a loafer?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 15:25:54 2023 No.17933434 >>17933432 Boat shoe or camp / blucher moc

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 16:21:32 2023 No.17933520 >>17933432 Anything on a wedge sole.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 16:33:28 2023 No.17933536 >>17933520 There's a Sanders shoe model like that, isn't there? Do they look autism irl?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 17:04:59 2023 No.17933562 File: 60 KB, 856x328, 17022407680996732.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does Coach make decent shoes? Saw pic rel on a discount, but I have never heard of them before

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 17:13:45 2023 No.17933574 >>17933562 I'm doubtful, since everything I've ever seen from them is outlet fodder.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 17:48:12 2023 No.17933623 >>17933574 Checks out. Sucks when you think you found something underrated but it’s just trash

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 18:27:20 2023 No.17933681 >>17933562 l m a o

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 19:01:23 2023 No.17933750 File: 177 KB, 1200x1500, 170177957525852817.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Cop or not?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 19:03:13 2023 No.17933756 File: 463 KB, 990x990, vest.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] is this alright?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 19:30:29 2023 No.17933806 >>17933562 >discount Imagine buying things you dont need just because they marked them off and made you believe you got a deal I’d rather have one 1000 dollar shoe than five 200 dollar ones sold for 120

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 19:36:24 2023 No.17933820 >>17933806 post shoe collection lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 21:35:26 2023 No.17933998 >>17933013 yes it's fine. just use your computer and search for 'rugged ivy' >>17933024 that's not a board shirt Tardski

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 21:36:27 2023 No.17934000 >>17933756 no. it wasn't last time you asked and it's still not.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 21:42:39 2023 No.17934007 >>17934000 Oh shit I totally forgot I asked already My bad gang lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 22:56:13 2023 No.17934088 >>17933562 No >>17933750 Obviously not what are you thinking >>17933756 Maybe to go running, that's it

Anonymous Wed Dec 13 23:22:00 2023 No.17934117

>buy Barbour coat
>wow nice, so /tip/, looks so good
>greasy fingers whenever you touch it
>wax transfer on to every seat when outside in public
>taking the jacket off (once inside an establishment) leaves a residue all over hands if it was wet
yeah, I now see why these are strictly country only, what else can I get which looks as good?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 23:22:25 2023 No.17934118 >>17933013 Plaid flannels are very common in actual vintage ivy university photos. But this pattern makes me think of a herringbone tweed jacket, which would be a more ivy style layer. But its your life, you dont have to follow a rigid rule book.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 23:27:56 2023 No.17934122 >>17933013 ur pic looks good, more neofolk/frank leder than /tip/ not sure how it would look in blue, don't remove the pockets lmao good outfit would be boots, flannel lined jeans, braided belt, merino turtleneck, that shirt, and a barbour

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 23:30:53 2023 No.17934124 >>17934117 Get the Classic/sylkoil version

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 23:53:00 2023 No.17934144 >>17934117 >doesn't know you're supposed to bake it for 30 min to set the wax before wearing. Dumb people will always be dumb

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 13 23:53:58 2023 No.17934145 >>17934124 I prefer my sage thornproof

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 01:16:59 2023 No.17934233 >>17934117 Works on my machine.

Anonymous Thu Dec 14 01:27:09 2023 No.17934243
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>>17933013
>>17934118
>>17934122
Depending on how it fits if I'm still going /tip/ then I wear it as an overshirt. Works well for some Bean chamois shirts I have and a wool shacked I thrifted.

Agreed w/ the flannel jeans, braided belt, turtleneck, etc. otherwise.

Picrel a mix that I think you can rock in the in between zone

>>17934117
I've thrifted mine or bought them off friends who changed sizes. Even after rewaxing I've never had a super serious bleed or rub off problem. Just endure it for another week or so, and maybe actually get it wet in a rain, and see how it holds up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 05:12:17 2023 No.17934427 Brainlet here, what are the differences between 60 dollar, 300 dollar and 1000 dollar shoes? They all just look and feel the same to me.

Anonymous Thu Dec 14 05:23:28 2023 No.17934437
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>>17934427
As a relative poorfag i couldnt tell you if shoes over $500 are really that much better.
But shoes under a certain price are going to have noticeably worse construction, meaning they'll wear out much faster, and cheaper materials, meaning they'll feel worse. Maybe they could look and feel fine in the dressing room, but walk in them for a day and you'll feel the difference, a few months and you'll see the difference. The most obvious thing is welted vs glued soles.
Also if you develop an eye for the fit and details of shoes, you'll notice that ultra-cheap brands don't actually look the same. They might make the same general type of shoe, but there's often something off about the design that makes it less aesthetic and flattering than it should be.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 05:35:28 2023 No.17934446 >>17934437 I see.

Anonymous Thu Dec 14 06:32:58 2023 No.17934486

>>17934243
nice wythe inspo
>>17934427
assuming retail prices:
$60 is amazon tier. nothing leather exists at that price.
$300 is babbys first tier. might get you some shitters from a china made meme brand like meermin. pretty limited range of options here. very few nice shoes come to mind that cost this little.
$1000 gets you gyw shoes in almost any last/style. can start affording cordovan at this point. lotsa nice features that savants would pick up on. don't bother buying anything this expensive if you're just getting into fashion or a personal style
with 2023 inflation staple brands i.e. alden or CJ are like $700

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 06:50:00 2023 No.17934497 >>17934437 The idea of touching my leather to concrete triggers me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 06:55:57 2023 No.17934503 >>17934486 >$1000 for gyw If a shoe costs more than 200 it better have goodyear welt

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 06:58:11 2023 No.17934507 >>17934503 at 200 you're lucky for blake stitch

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 06:59:36 2023 No.17934508 >>17934503 Anon, did you suffer a stroke watching the Holdovers leaving you thinking it's still the 70s?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 07:07:59 2023 No.17934513 >>17934507 >>17934508 After five seconds of googling: https://www.jonesbootmaker.com/collections/goodyear-welted

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 07:08:33 2023 No.17934514 alright actually looks like a few poorfag options still exist. meermin, beckett simon, jack erwin & jay butler are all still sub $300 and supposedly 'full grain'. buyer beware, imo i'd still rec saving up for something nicer

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 07:14:17 2023 No.17934517 File: 42 KB, 800x800, 1127365_800x800.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17934513 nice, but man some of those look worse than docs. thats what £99 gets ya

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 08:57:41 2023 No.17934564 >>17934517 WHAT ARE THOOOOSE nigga just buy some Vass ffs

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 10:41:31 2023 No.17934621 File: 92 KB, 1000x1125, 170197436989545965.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My gf called me a fag for wearing cuban heel chelseas. How do I convince her it looks good?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 10:43:38 2023 No.17934622 >>17934621 Not tip

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 14:05:34 2023 No.17934791 >>17930817 My mind goes to one thing, and one thing only, whenever I see wonderbread

Anonymous Thu Dec 14 14:49:09 2023 No.17934831

Trying to narrow down my shoe wardrobe so I created an autistic scenario where I'd do a lot more things in a day than I'd usually do, so imagine this. You are going out for the day in your city or a different city, you could do a lot of walking or a little walking, you'll drive a little, maybe use some public transport, maybe walk through a park, maybe visit a museum, maybe even eat at a nicer upscale restaurant. Which shoe or boot are you wearing which would do all of these activities well?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 15:01:45 2023 No.17934845 >>17934831 Wingtip oxfords or boots Also walking is for poorfags

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 15:02:08 2023 No.17934846 >>17934831 Brown derby (which is always the answer)

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 15:07:17 2023 No.17934853 >>17934846 >>17934845 Suede or Calf? Dark Brown or Snuff?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 15:33:47 2023 No.17934879 >>17934853 Just brown ffs, not oxblood, not champagne, not snuff, BROWN

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 15:57:15 2023 No.17934901 File: 863 KB, 1236x2676, IMG_2304.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Taking out my new Kit Blake trousers today; colours feel off for this fit

Anonymous Thu Dec 14 16:09:14 2023 No.17934915

I coped with the loose OCBD meme for too long not noticing just how much it covered my body. I just realised that I look way better wearing a t-shirt, since I am fairly /fit/. Not quite sure what to do now since t-shirts are off-limits in /tip/ but I would like to highlight my chest, shoulders, and arms more. I feel like long-sleeve knit polos would be the natural choice, but I always have viewed them as pretty sexcore and very delicate.

>>17934901
Very nice coat, where is it from? Also, that is nice shade of brown for the knit, just the right amount of saturation. I don't think the grey is too far off and I think that it would look good to most people, perhaps a little warmer shade would suit the outfit slightly more.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 16:16:51 2023 No.17934926 >>17934915 Maybe just wear a tank top and a mini skirt ?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 16:19:57 2023 No.17934933 >>17933750 Looks very effay and tip, 100% cop

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 16:30:29 2023 No.17934947 >>17934901 Pants look great. Very dour color palette though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 16:35:05 2023 No.17934954 >>17934853 >Suede or Calf? Dark Brown or Snuff Full grain, tan/walnut

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 16:39:03 2023 No.17934959 >>17934915 You could try a sized-down rugby (theyre typically cut loose) Knit polos can look good but they definitely have a european/tryhard vibe, i prefer the casual style of a rugby

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 16:39:41 2023 No.17934960 File: 1.38 MB, 1268x1200, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does anyone have any recommendations for a jacket? I was thinking of buying a Barbour Bedale

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 16:48:23 2023 No.17934968 >>17934960 I hate every single pic of a model wearing any Barbour jacket. It always looks 1000x worse than irl.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 16:58:08 2023 No.17934974 >>17934960 >recommendations for a jacket a coat

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 17:06:10 2023 No.17934984 >>17934960 Dont fall for the barbour jacket meme Outside of rural england everyone will just think you are homeless

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 17:12:09 2023 No.17934994 >>17934984 which jacket/coat would you recommend then?

Anonymous Thu Dec 14 17:20:46 2023 No.17935003

>>17934994
Well, you have these choices for a casual coat. If you know any which are good without much bad association then please let me know.
>Waxed Jackets: frumpy, farmer LARP, homeless, reddit 2010, skinnyfat or chubby mfa tier guys
>Peacoats: onions, hipsters, reddit 2010, twinks, overcompensating men, lumbersexuals, sexcore
>Balamacaans: old man, try-hard, womanly, uniqlo cheapshit devotee, trendy, that weird overdressed guy

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 18:01:45 2023 No.17935043 >>17935003 you are an insecure weirdo with nothing interesting to say

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 18:17:42 2023 No.17935064 >>17925107 Are you really still on the tradwife thing? The really preppy thing is to be a yuppie couple where both of you work high-paying jobs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 18:18:38 2023 No.17935065 >>17935043 you can't even pick a coat and you don't leave the house

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 18:20:52 2023 No.17935067 >>17930733 >Oxford is definitely a casual fabric. This is correct. >I'd say twill is the most formal ?? Twill isn't even used in dress shirts, it's a work shirt (work as in manual labor) material. Broadcloth is arguably the most formal shirt fabric.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 18:51:36 2023 No.17935120 I want a leather jacket so much

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 19:09:48 2023 No.17935144 >>17935003 The internet has rotted your brain.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 19:14:23 2023 No.17935155 What brand would you guys recommend for classic fit pants ? J. Press, Brooks Brothers, others ?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 19:18:21 2023 No.17935162 >>17935064 Preppy style can also be very androgynous compared to traditional clothing. Girls in chinos, jeans, collared blouses, rugbies, barbours, etc.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 20:22:32 2023 No.17935241 File: 1.84 MB, 1179x1733, IMG_1111.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just picked up this new touring coat

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 20:27:59 2023 No.17935247 >>17935120 If you get one, go with a blouson or maybe a café racer, they can be dressed up more than, say, a biker jacket.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 20:32:15 2023 No.17935254 >>17935241 post hairline

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 20:40:29 2023 No.17935265 >>17935254 hairline

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 21:03:53 2023 No.17935285 >>17935265 Thats a different thing altogether

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 21:05:30 2023 No.17935289 >>17930647 I tend to go for crisp poplin, it's got that slight sheen that makes it look a bit less casual and it's a plain enough weave to not stand out

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 21:12:42 2023 No.17935297 >>17934901 nice to see you post again. shoes paraboots? >>17935241 nice first post. weird interior

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 21:29:18 2023 No.17935312 >>17934901 You look like a paperboy larper.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 22:25:21 2023 No.17935397 >>17930069 this is nice

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 14 23:53:25 2023 No.17935494 >>17935241 looks like a costume bro

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 02:27:42 2023 No.17935673 >>17934901 I like this, but it doesn't seem tip to me at all. In fact, I'd almost say the very tip shoes clash a bit with the rest.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 02:28:59 2023 No.17935676 >>17935241 I think the belt around the jacket is a little too much, and the hat is a bit silly. I really want to like this outfit but it does look like you're LARPing as another anon said

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 02:33:13 2023 No.17935685 >>17930622 duckhead

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 02:33:24 2023 No.17935687 >>17934901 >looks at a dark academia infographic once

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 05:50:56 2023 No.17935856 >>17935687 henlo newfag

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 08:23:12 2023 No.17935959 >>17934915 Thanks, coat is SEH Kelly's Balmacaan : https://www.sehkelly.com/shop/coats/balmacaan/ >>17935297 Always my trusty Paraboot Avignon indeed

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 14:09:31 2023 No.17936200 >>17935856 Hello retarded ESL faggot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 14:33:41 2023 No.17936220 >>17936200 lmao ironic

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 15:36:55 2023 No.17936301 >>17934901 a million times better with a turtleneck

Anonymous Fri Dec 15 16:06:29 2023 No.17936344

Responding to an earlier anon about the Barbour jackets. Nobody told me bedales were fucking huge. The arms are huge and the neck opening is too, not sure if I should keep desu or size down. Also, the worst part is that I wanted sage but the sage is thornproof. I just discovered that the thornproof is extremely rigid and stands up on its own, it looks terrible when worn desu. Also, I thought that the appearance wouldn’t be that different in person but I was wrong. Thornproof looks so shiny and waxy, almost sweaty looking but sylkoil looks nice and matte, and doesn’t give you wax hands the second you touch it.

I guess I’m forced to get the sykoil (olive) even though I prefer sage. I’ll probably size down or just hope it breaks in.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 16:23:51 2023 No.17936367 >>17935685 Any that aren't made in China? These duckheads look almost the same as the Kuhl's I'm trying to replace, down to the look of the stitching.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 16:41:43 2023 No.17936416 >>17936367 >Kuhl's jesus, well just look for some vintage polo on ebay or depop

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 16:44:46 2023 No.17936427 >>17936416 Yeah, they've served me well but at this point I can't ignore the way the material creases and drapes anymore. Does anyone have experience with Asket's pants? https://www.asket.com/us/mens/trousers

Anonymous Fri Dec 15 17:51:48 2023 No.17936546

>>17936344
>Buys outdoor jacket designed to be a top layer over a sport coat, shetland sweater (optional) and collared shirt
>Is confused when it's roomy and hard wearing

Embrace the utility or return it and accept that you're too pleb to appreciate it. Just don't be one of those trainwrecks wearing a "fitted" barbour and slim chinos

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 18:01:14 2023 No.17936555 >>17936546 I bet you are one of those autists who wears loopwheel hoodies, raw denim and red wing boots everywhere and constantly looks uncomfortable and rigid. Embrace the utility.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 18:49:36 2023 No.17936612 >>17936344 There are slimmer barbour designs, but you'll have to look second hand for the better ones. The longhurst is probably my faborite, but they only made it as a special edition around 2010.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 20:04:51 2023 No.17936697 >>17936344 which size? I've got a 38 sylkoil bedale and I want a thornproof

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 20:13:12 2023 No.17936708 >>17936546 real >>17936555 cute seethe

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 22:32:58 2023 No.17936856 File: 3.54 MB, 3024x2601, 20231215_153729.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >made in india wtf?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 15 23:33:40 2023 No.17936933 >>17936856 Almost certainly from the pennant label, J Press's more affordable / collegiate line of clothing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 05:30:25 2023 No.17937207 This general has sucked Next one ideas: duffle coats, shetlands, hell even scarves. We're past vest season.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 05:43:36 2023 No.17937211 >>17937207 how about you post a fit instead

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 06:58:08 2023 No.17937237 File: 672 KB, 1200x1200, ctbr-std-m_stewart_dress_modern_braeriach_tartan-front-72dpi-rgb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Dress Stewart is the most powerful flannel pattern, and it isn't close.

Anonymous Sat Dec 16 13:04:12 2023 No.17937445

>>17936344
1. Stop being a pencil necked basedboy
2. >>17936546
>>17937207 this general has always sucked bc no one on here can dress themselves, they can't afford to wear anything even mid priced, and most posters just like the aesthetic. The ivy reddit is probably the best place to discuss this kind of thing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 13:49:44 2023 No.17937484 >>17937207 You can make the next one if you want, nobody's stopping you

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 17:05:30 2023 No.17937673 >>17935241 The hat makes it look a bit too much Nice fit tho Weird room

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 18:02:56 2023 No.17937754 File: 355 KB, 996x1761, 20231216_120219.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17937445 pretty sure most of the posters ITT don't own a blazer. atleast these guys all had nice contributions >>17924408 >>17934901 >>17935241

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 19:36:23 2023 No.17937856 >>17937754 Whatever you say walker texas ranger, youre still a faggot

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 20:27:32 2023 No.17937950 >>17937754 You are the worst poster in these threads. Please stop.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 20:30:15 2023 No.17937954 >>17937754 Good besides the hat

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 21:44:00 2023 No.17938073 >>17937754 Good as always

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 16 22:26:57 2023 No.17938108 >>17937754 comically bad as always

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 17 04:12:57 2023 No.17938545 >>17937237 I'd say Dress Gordon is equal. >>17937754 Fine even nice fit on khakis and the shirt looks decent but fuck man you gotta know that top layer and hat look retarded

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