/fa/ - Fashion

[Anonymous No.17803566]

I know about Iron Heart flannels and jeans, but what about the rest of their clothing? Jackets, chinos, etc

[Anonymous No.17803596]

>>17803566
10/10 would recommend

[Anonymous No.17803751]

>>17803596
whoa, is that ryan gosling from drive?

[Anonymous No.17803908]

>>17803566
I own one of their 22 oz overdyed black jackets. Its fucking legit, but I kind of wish I would have gotten a type III jacket with pockets. I also own 3 of their flannels and a couple pairs of 888 jeans in 21 oz overdyed black and indigo 25 oz. I hate to be a faggy little fanboy for specific brands, but IH is legitimately the most well made clothing I've ever worn, and the fades you get from their denim is top notch. Like, God damn, their flannels are literally just perfect. Its also all just traditional americana style, so it perceivably will stand the test of time and never go out of style

[Anonymous No.17803911]

>>17803596
kek looks cool as fuck

[Anonymous No.17803915]

>>17803596
9/10 only because the shoes aren't indigo

[Anonymous No.17803917]

>>17803566
Since the bidenflation nonsense, I can only imagine how expensive IH stuff is now. it was already way overpriced but because of "muh iron heart muh quality" people justified it to themselves, but I couldn't imagine actually paying the prices they ask
don't know how the brand stays in business but I guess the high prices are part of that, they keep raising and raising them to stay alive

[Anonymous No.17803922]

>>17803917
Its considerably expensive partly because of the brand, but it is mostly because they have ethically sourced materials and labor, and they do actually make what is arguably the most durable pair of selvedge jeans in the market without cutting any corners and including as many features as possible (lined back pockets, belt loops sewn into waistband, selvedge fabric on the interior of the button fly, etc). Since they've built a rep for actually being the most well made jeans, they can add another $100 for a pair of jeans if they want to. Its the same reason why Gibson guitars are so expensive. The brand knows that everyone knows their guitars are fucking awesome, so they charge what they want

[Anonymous No.17803924]

>>17803922
you can get rogue territory or freenote cloth which is just as good, made in the USA, and costs less

one of the main reasons IH is so expensive is their international operations are all based out of the UK, so they make them in Japan, ship them to the UK and then ship from the UK to stores/consumers
what an absolute waste of money to do all that extra shipping and overhead that gets passed on to the consumer

[Anonymous No.17803927]

>>17803924
This is true. With any japanese made clothing you should attempt to purchase through a proxy to save an extra 40-50% that european/american retailers add onto these pieces of clothing. If you buy a pair of 21oz Iron Hearts directly from the japanese online shop, its $200, which is literally half the price of what you'd spend buying it in the US. I guess the issue is a matter of supply available in the Japanese shops

[Anonymous No.17803939]

>>17803922
thats all bullshit. these things cost like 10$ to make if that, then they turn around and charge hundreds of dollars for it to retards. this the case for all designer clothes.

[Anonymous No.17803941]

>>17803939
>Cost $10 to make
lol

[Anonymous No.17803949]

>>17803941
they probably do or not far off. the markup will probably be 8-10 times the cost to make them.

[Anonymous No.17804193]

>>17803908
I really want one of their flannels, but $300 for a fucking flannel shirt? WTF.

[Anonymous No.17804290]

>>17804193
Their flannels are literally perfect, hence why they know they can charge whatever they want. In my opinion, $300 is not that much money for a piece of clothing you'll have forever

[Anonymous No.17804297]

>>17804290
>literally perfect
Maybe they are if you're really sensitive to wool or just really like their patterns, but I would never spend more than $50 on a literal cotton "flannel" shirt. Also found this picture while googling them, lol

[Anonymous No.17804307]

>>17803924
>rogue territory
Absolutely loath the cut of their pants. They're stuck in 2011. I'm not a 145lb lanklet anymore, I need room for my thighs. I do not skip leg day. Iron Heart and Naked & Famous accommodate said thighs.

[Anonymous No.17804317]

>>17803566
who needs 25oz denim? maybe a welder or a miner? i'll pass

[Anonymous No.17804396]

>>17804317
literally no one. they exist for reddit raw denim fans because the extremely heavy weight makes really distinct creases with fade a lot. that's it, it's to fade and show them off
>but muh motorcycles
this is a lie. if you crash on a motorcycle and skid against your body you will shred your pants no matter what material they are unless they're leather with armor. 25oz of cotton cloth will not make a difference if you are sliding across pavement at 50 miles an hour

[Anonymous No.17804399]

>>17803596
>>17804297
hundreds of dollars to look like a liberal goober lel

[Anonymous No.17804400]

>>17804307
that's my issue too. I own a pair from them and they're excellent, easily on par with my Japanese Momotaro jeans, but I agree their skelly cuts are dated

[Anonymous No.17804477]

>>17804317
>>17804396
25 oz is sick as fuck, simple as. You don’t even need to rationalize the workwear utility of it. The creases and fades are reason enough to have them

[Anonymous No.17804484]

>>17803596
what a chad

[Anonymous No.17804486]

>>17804317
it's cold oot there buddy

[Anonymous No.17804521]

>>17804297
Apologize

[Anonymous No.17804640]

I have two UHFs. how do I machine wash these without shrinking them?

[Anonymous No.17804644]

>>17804640
Washing isn't what shrinks clothes, it's the heat from drying them
Wash inside out with cold water and hang dry and they'll pretty much last forever

[Anonymous No.17804667]

>>17804640
>>17804644
This. I have a few of their flannels and I just wash cold and hang dry. They’ve never shrunk

[Anonymous No.17804670]

>buy UHFs
>still too fat to button up comfortably

I'm a L/XL in Amerifat sizes, but had to go 2XL for this

[Anonymous No.17804682]

>>17804670
Nigga I'm 6'1" and athletic build and wear an XXXL in their flannel sizing, which fits perfectly (not too tight, relaxed). Maybe you should have gotten XXXL?

[Anonymous No.17804906]

New limited IH flannel just dropped. Should I go for it? I know people say red flannels are hard to pull off, but I feel like this is pretty tame shade of red with enough black pattern for it to look pretty nice

[Anonymous No.17804919]

>>17804670
Jap sizing is usually a size up from your regular size. Like the other anon said just size it to fit correctly, all the measurements are given.

[Anonymous No.17804920]

>>17804906
That looks nice, really the only red pattern that is played out is the red buffalo check.

[Anonymous No.17804921]

>>17804906

where are you seeing this for sale

[Anonymous No.17805039]

>>17804477
>spend 4 years for muh creases and fades
lmao get a real hobby

[Anonymous No.17805234]

I your going Iron heart than buy TWO sizes down. Whatever is tight and you have massive trouble buttoning, buy the next smaller size. I love the hoodie but it is a slim fit so you must actually be slim, or at least working on it or the arms will be way too long, unless you're black as they tend to have longer arms. Very well made stuff though. I sent back my ACPs because they felt thin like walmart jeans with a waistband that would stretch more than 2 inches.

[Anonymous No.17805332]

>>17803908
>those pins

[Anonymous No.17805550]

>>17804399
Only a faggy ass, liberal tech worker is allowed to wear that kind of flannel shirt. No one who works in trades is going to wear a shirt that expensive. Funny how things are.

[Anonymous No.17805556]

>>17803596
can you sit down in those jeans?

[Anonymous No.17805560]

>>17804297
they're made out of fucking cotton? 300 dollars for a cotton flannel? KEK

[Anonymous No.17805561]

>>17803922
>ethically sourced materials
Their denim comes from right down the road from me in Texas. Illegals are the ones making it and they ain’t gonna get social security when they’re old. It’s expensive because folded one mirrion time gaijin.

[Anonymous No.17805797]

>>17804477
25oz is too heavy
18oz is perfect
I don’t understand the point of super heavy weight denim because, if you’re going that route, just get better tradesman pants that will actually protect your legs better

[Anonymous No.17805802]

>>17805561
>source cotton in Texas
>fly it to japan to make shirts
>fly the shirts to the UK so you can fly them back to the US
>nah, brah, the shirts are expensive because muh quality

[Anonymous No.17806291]

>>17803924
>>17803927
this
if you're into .jp shit have a friend to proxy
>>17803939
the markup isn't as high as you think even with made in usa stuff back when cone mills existed (they were the cheapest) its more like 50% usually i actually have designed jeans and sourced everything for the company before.

[Anonymous No.17806294]

>>17804297
wool flannels aren't > cotton flannels
you wear cotton in the summer and wool in the fall and winter
their heavy ass cotton flannels make no sense to me though, for a heavy flannel i'd rather just have a pendleton or filson all day long

[Anonymous No.17806295]

>>17804297
wool flannels aren't > cotton flannels
you wear cotton in the summer and wool in the fall and winter
their heavy ass cotton flannels make no sense to me though, for a heavy flannel i'd rather just have a pendleton or filson all day long
the iron heart shit is supposed to be workwear and i think for motorcycle riding though so cotton makes sense for it

[Anonymous No.17806296]

>>17804297
wool flannels aren't > cotton flannels
you wear cotton in the summer and wool in the fall and winter
their heavy ass cotton flannels make no sense to me though, for a heavy flannel i'd rather just have a pendleton or filson wool flannel all day long
the iron heart shit is supposed to be workwear and i think for motorcycle riding though so cotton makes sense for it
that being said i cap out at maybe 300 for a cotton flannel they're overpriced

[Anonymous No.17806305]

>>17806296
>cotton in the summer
Eh, I don't wear much flannel in the summer at all, and if I did I wouldn't want something that's made of cotton and is therefore going to wick sweat poorly. Maybe I'm just personally more sensitive to heat though; I'm pretty sure I sweat more easily than most. I don't think we disagree much, since I don't think cotton flannels are inherently worse, just not worth paying much for.

[Anonymous No.17806310]

>>17806291
Nobody here has friends. Doesn't buyee still operate?

[Anonymous No.17806317]

>>17806305
wicking isn't the be all when its hot, its only good for athletic wear doing high activity then taking it off and washing it after. linen and loosely woven thin cotton can be better. what the fiber's made of matters but the weave and weight of the fabric matters even more with summer wear imo.

[Anonymous No.17806320]

>>17803924
>rogue territory
Slim fit everything? No thanks. Worst fucking trash in existence.

[Anonymous No.17806323]

>Eh, I don't wear much flannel in the summer at all
the thinner light weight ones fill the same sort of role as a hoodie in the evening

[Anonymous No.17806329]

>>17806317
>>17806323
Where I live it's rarely below 70-75 in the summer while I'm awake, and since I sweat easily I pretty much never layer. If I am layering in the summer I'm usually travelling somewhere less gross, and I suppose I'm often doing lots of walking/hiking when I'm travelling, hence my need for a wicking fabric. Again I'm sure it makes sense in the situation you're describing; it's just not something I usually encounter personally.

[Anonymous No.17806436]

>>17805561
If you live in Texas this dude will make whatever you want.
https://wilkinsonsfinegoods.com/products/1936-type-1-jacket-design-your-own

[Anonymous No.17806763]

>>17805802
this kind of international shipping in a circle is not something unique to high markup clothing, it's the standard across many industries to take advantage of different local regulatory environments. these shirts actually are quality

[Anonymous No.17806776]

>>17805332
What did you expect from an IH fanboy?

[Anonymous No.17806858]

>>17806763
This. As someone who owns IH, Pendleton, and Woolrich flannels, I can say that IH is just straight up NICE.
>But much cotton!!! Wool is better!!!
Literally if you just try on the IH flannel you’ll immediately recognize that it really is made better and is at least twice as comfortable as any wool piece

[Anonymous No.17806866]

>>17806858
>made better
>comfortable
That's great and I understand why someone would pay for that, but personally the technical advantages of wool just aren't something I'm willing to give up especially if I have to pay more. Different people simply have different criteria/use cases for clothing.

[Anonymous No.17806944]

Any general tips on buying a first denim jacket? Love the look of >>17803908 but the price is pretty steep. I'm leaning towards buying black new and then getting a cheap faded denim one used. Definitely agree the pockets are necessary. Maybe the thickness of the denim made it awkward?

[Anonymous No.17806979]

>>17804670
lose weight

[Anonymous No.17806985]

>>17806944
If I had to do it all over again, I would have gotten a 19 oz jacket instead of 22 oz. Don't get me wrong, I love IH's heavy weight denim, but only for the jeans. To me, some of the best looking Type III jackets will have a noticeable amount of softness and flowy texture, and the 22 oz jacket is still feeling pretty tough and thick after 2 cycles of fall and winter. There are some other companies out there that have good jackets at a smaller price, Naked and Famous being one of them. In my opinion though, if you're already dropping at least $250 on a raw denim jacket you might as well just drop the extra $200 and get an IH, its really not that much money in the big picture, especially if you are likely keeping the jacket for most of your life. The even, straight texture of their weaves just makes the denim wear in beautifully compared to any other companies I've seen. And yeah, they are certainly a good example of the point of diminishing returns where you really don't get THAT many more features and build quality compared to other slightly less expensive companies, but they are arguably in the top 3 denim companies on the market right now, so you might as well just get the best of the best.
Just checking their website right now I found a 19 oz black jacket with pockets and good amount of stock left
https://www.ironheart.co.uk/jackets/ih-526lod.html

[Anonymous No.17806992]

>>17806985
I just dropped big on the black Kim Kitsuragi jacket, so I'm probably gonna wait out and see if I can get a used Iron Heart or a sale price. Appreciate the tips on N&F.

[Anonymous No.17807000]

>>17803596
i have those shoes

[Anonymous No.17807065]

>>17806436
Very cool manufacturer but as is usually the case the people with the skills to craft the clothes have shitty style taste. The jacket looks amazing but the cuts are ass

[Anonymous No.17807070]

>>17804521
What size is that? I feel like it's a medium and I'm gonna need a large. it looks slightly too small on you for me.

[Anonymous No.17807093]

>>17807070
This isn't me, but I have three of their flannels and can say that their sizes run pretty small. I'm 6'1", 180 pounds with an athletic build and although I usually wear size large with most US brand shirts, their XXXL sizes fit me perfectly. You should always reference their size charts and compare it to the dimensions of one of your best fitting button up shirts.

[Anonymous No.17807133]

>>17807065
He makes whatever you want under the modify tag, but you gotta go to the store or have a phone call about it

[Anonymous No.17807136]

>>17807133
>>17807065
Don't want to shill but he treated me pretty good
https://www.cianofarmer.com/products/13-5oz-1968-cone-mills-1967-type-iii-jacket?_pos=19&_sid=01f537e3a&_ss=r

[Anonymous No.17807147]

>>17806992
Spier and Mackay has some for cheap if you don't care about it being made in china. They're pretty decent. N&F is good if you can find it on sale, I got the Elephant 11 jacket for like 170 CAD from Dutil Denim.
https://www.spierandmackay.com/product/rinse-wash---denim-jacket-rw-den-jkt-fw22-935
https://www.spierandmackay.com/product/antique-wash---denim-jacket--aw-den-jkt-fw22

[Anonymous No.17807183]

>>17806436

so this guy wouldn't ship up to MN?

[Anonymous No.17807218]

>>17807183
He ships anywhere but I imagine if you order something custom from him he's gonna want you to email in what you want or speak to you on the phone. I went up to his shop and he gets orders from all over

[Anonymous No.17807220]

>>17807218
>cant be half assed to simplify shipping domestically

[Anonymous No.17807232]

>>17807220
You can order something stock and not custom. If you order something just email and say what you want and where to ship it to. It isn't hard.

[Anonymous No.17807301]

>>17806944
My favorite denim jacket I own is from a brand called Encampment Co. which was a one man brand out of I think Arizona. Just one guy sewing everything himself. About a year back the dude broke his arm or shoulder or something in an accident and closed down which sucks because I'd buy my entire wardrobe from that brand. It's slightly longer in the body which is nice because I'm 6'2" and it's Japanese selvedge denim. I love it, BUT...it's black. If I had to do it over again I'd get a blue selvedge jacket because the way it fades and breaks in looks better and blue is more versatile
I guess my only real advice is be deliberate with your color choices if you are looking for some flexibility and trying to avoid double denim if you don't like it

[Anonymous No.17807309]

>go check out how much denim jacket from Iron Heart costs
>400+ USD
they have lost their damn minds with these prices. I seriously hope no one is paying them

[Anonymous No.17807311]

>>17805556
eventually

[Anonymous No.17807313]

Always wanted their duck canvas type III because it looks amazing and is a nice alternative to denim, but like all IH items, it's perpetually sold out

[Anonymous No.17807320]

>>17807093
5'10, 150 pounds. Do you think a large would work or do you think I need an XL? Also do you have any pics of you wearing yours?

[Anonymous No.17807360]

>>17807309
It literally isn’t a big deal if you’re not poor. Honestly is not a lot of money considering you’ll have the jacket forever

[Anonymous No.17807444]

>>17807309
>sour grapes

[Anonymous No.17807449]

>>17803596
Jeans are 4 inches too long.
Also tuck in your shirt fool, God I hate the trend of wearing a shirt that sticks below a jacket, it just looks awful.

[Anonymous No.17807614]

>>17806329
synthetics and wool are dog shit for hiking in the summer in tropical climates, you're doing it wrong.

[Anonymous No.17807672]

>>17807360
>considering you’ll have the jacket forever
I don't doubt they're the best jean jackets under the sun, however, when was the last time anybody here had to throw a jean jacket away because it was too worn out or ruined? Even a cheap one?

[Anonymous No.17807813]

>>17805561
More like ethnically sourced materials, ami rite guys?

[Anonymous No.17807886]

>>17807614
>hiking in the summer in tropical climates
Did you read my post? I never mentioned doing this. As I said, if I'm layering in the summer, which is usually how I wear flannels, I'm probably travelling somewhere colder. Also I don't know if you've never been to the mid-atlantic, but a low of 70 F during daytime in summer is by no means a tropical climate.

[Anonymous No.17807904]

>>17807360
denim jackets don't wear out and usually last 20+ years for a cheap one

[Anonymous No.17807980]

>>17807444
>it's sour grapes if you don't feel like spending 450 on a 150 dollar jacket
k

[Anonymous No.17808119]

>>17803596
based Dan

[Anonymous No.17808133]

>>17807360
are you the fag that will bust out his guitar as proof he's richva4nvm

[Anonymous No.17808135]

Iron hearts are just fucking cool. Set aside all the muckity muck about durability and stuff, all that matters in my opinion is that they are straight up fucking baller. This is reason enough to drop $400 on their jeans. If you don’t want to spend that, that’s completely fine, but don’t be a little resentful bitch when others have the money to buy it

[Anonymous No.17808137]

>>17806985
picrel

[Anonymous No.17808138]

>>17808135
thank you Shinichi Hiraki, very cool

[Anonymous No.17808168]

>>17808137
life or death for berryboy

[Anonymous No.17808392]

>>17803917
>it was already way overpriced but because of "muh iron heart muh quality" people justified it to themselves
this, just stick with Wrangler

[Anonymous No.17808425]

>>17807313
Get a Levis Workwear Jacket instead

[Anonymous No.17808514]

>>17808135
>>17803922
the looks are why you should like them.
>what is arguably the most durable pair of selvedge jeans in the market
the most durable jeans on the market for doing actual work in aren't going to be raw denim they're going to be pre washed jeans pobably with stretch fabric. the break in process weakens fibers and causes premature blow outs. its rare for any raw denim jeans to make it over 10 years without holes in them or major darning/patching repairs at some point. and after a certain degree extra weight of the denim doesn't make it more durable it just makes blowouts more likely.
out of all the denim in my closet, which is a lot i'm the same anon telling people to proxy buy with a friend in japan, and i'm also a contractor so i actually use workwear for its intended purpose daily... the most durable pair of jeans i own are a pair of 19oz rustlers (wrangler's cheaper diffusion line) that cost me $14.88 at wal mart, i remember the price because it was funny. my second most durable pair are some jeans i forgot the brand of meant for climbing with a double reinforced crotch gusset.

[Anonymous No.17808563]

>>17808425
I specifically want the type III style though

[Anonymous No.17808637]

>>17806436
>>17807183
>>17807136
I called that guy. He ships anywhere and said iron heart runs real small and order a size up or two sizes up if you’re big. He wants your measurements and the current wait time is Christmas for jackets.

[Anonymous No.17809188]

>>17808514
tell me more about 100% cotton jeans vs 2%stretch jeans in term of durability

[Anonymous No.17809773]

>>17809188
I wear a pair of wrangler cowboy cuts for my manual labor work and they are fine. My last pair lasted me a couple years. I also own some iron heart 25 oz and samurai 21 oz jeans. With 100% cotton selvedge, my experience has been that the “durability” depends on how well the jeans fit your particular body and how the dimensions of the jeans are designed. Although my iron hearts fit me very well, the crotch area hangs a little lower than my samurai’s and because of that there is slightly more stress in the crotch of my iron hearts, which will eventually lead to a blowout some years down the line. This all depends on what you do for activities though. If I was regularly spreading my legs really wide, the iron hearts would likely blow out sooner. When it comes to friction wear, I think any heavier selvedge denim will be more resistant, but at the end of the day any poly mix denim will have more wiggle room for stretching and you’ll be less likely to damage your denim from that compared to a pair of 100% selvedge that doesn’t really allow for any stretch. In summary, the only reason you should buy selvedge is because you like how they look. All the “quality” and “durability” talk is up for debate and it really is not so cut and clear

[Anonymous No.17809836]

>>17809188
stretch is elastane which wasps, loses shape and degrades, especially with heat

[Anonymous No.17810072]

>>17803566
The best thing about a denim brand is obviously their denim. Unless they specify something special about the other garments like being loopwheeled or using a special dye, they're just the same basics but thicker.

As far as iron heart itself goes, for some it's a sort of pinnacle for thickness. There are a good handful of brands that will do 18oz+, so if iron heart makes you balk at their prices feel free to use them instead.

[Anonymous No.17810075]

>>17805234
of course apcs aren’t as quality as japanese heritage jeans they’re made by gook children, the appeal of apc are the fit and fades which are probably the best of any brand

[Anonymous No.17810079]

>>17807136
>horse blanket lining
Now that’s something the japs don’t do

[Anonymous No.17810184]

Not really IH related, but I just bought this jacket. Am I retarded, or based?
https://www.heatstrapsusa.com/product-page/the-workhorse-x-carl-murawski

[Anonymous No.17810188]

>>17810184
It's probably a pretty good jacket, Carl's a bit of a goof

[Anonymous No.17810192]

>>17810188
Yeah, that's why I asked. The dude seems to shill some pretty fucking retarded brands, like Nicks Boots for example, but this jacket actually seems like its built like a fucking tank

[Anonymous No.17810446]

>>17808514
>the looks are why you should like them.
100% agreed. There's a point of diminishing returns in terms of quality, durability, materials and construction with regards to price tag and IH sits beyond that point.
What IH excels at is looks. If you're into selvedge, sick fades and the like, you can't do better than IH, at least that I know of.

[Anonymous No.17810652]

>>17804920
$360 for cotton??? Lol. You are being scammed. What a fucking joke.

[Anonymous No.17810720]

>>17810184
Carl is a fucking fraud larping faggot and I would never give him a cent

[Anonymous No.17810759]

>Carl Murcuckski

[Anonymous No.17810860]

>>17810720
Does he actually larp tho? The guy is an actual tradesman right?

[Anonymous No.17810883]

>>17810184
I own one the heat straps chief coats and use it for geotechnical drilling work in the PNW winters. As much of a fag Carl Murawski is, the jacket is legit. Haven’t had any issues with it whatsoever, the heavy waxed canvas has prevented all water from getting inside the jacket, and yeah the stitching work is quite heavy duty. I honestly don’t think I’ll need to rewax it yet this year

[Anonymous No.17810906]

>>17810860
he says he's done every job under the sun but I've never seen him turn a wrench

[Anonymous No.17810983]

>>17810906
Okay, is this green light of being labeled as a tradesman include at the bare minimum video evidence of all the different types of work you do on sites?

[Anonymous No.17811021]

>>17810860
>The guy is an actual tradesman right?
apparently he works as an electrical contractor but his background seems made up and fake. he used to work for the railroad, he was a logger, he did construction, etc. his background is whatever it needs to be to trick his drones into buying whatever he's shilling

the thing that made me hate him was a video he did way back when where he took a brand new Whites and Nick's boot and cut them up and he was like "Nick's is better because they did a row of stitching here". so pointless and stupid

[Anonymous No.17811032]

>>17810860
probably a liason between the corporate office and the foreman. he "visits" job sites once in a while

[Anonymous No.17811138]

>>17806985
Have you washed it yet? That should soften it up a bit, but it's true that 22 oz probably wont drape like 14-16 oz will no matter what you do.

[Anonymous No.17811218]

>>17811021
yea his whole story is ridiculous, but this Freenote RJ-2 jacket is dope

[Anonymous No.17811384]

>>17811021
Yeah I remember that video, was pretty gay. The dude is no doubt sponsored by Nigs, which sucks because they are a shit ass company that stole Whites designs, engages in predatory marketing and has absolute shit QC. That being said, not everything the guy reviews and promotes is absolute shit. Based on my experience wearing a Heat Straps jacket for work, his hype for that company is well warranted. I guess it all comes down to whether you as a customer know what to look for and whether something is realistically worth buying

[Anonymous No.17811532]

>>17811384
>. I guess it all comes down to whether you as a customer know what to look for and whether something is realistically worth buying
But then why would you need Carl Muravsky or any other youtuber for?

[Anonymous No.17811738]

>>17810192
>pretty fucking retarded brands, like Nicks Boots
What makes you say this? Just curious, since I haven't really seen people bitch too much about Nicks here before. I personally just have a pair of Whites.

[Anonymous No.17811802]

>>17811738
nicks was started by a former whites worker who basically took all whites manufacturing techniques and designs and made a new company in the same town. it's shitty and sleazy
but their QC is awful and they're overpriced as fuck. their marketing department is just like thursday boots in that they pay anyone and everyone to shill their boots. every single "bootfluencer" on youtube has done a paid video shilling them
whites is still the king though and if you're really into boots they're the white man's choice

[Anonymous No.17811813]

>>17811802
>NOOOO YOU CAN'T START YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!!! YOU MUST WAGEKEK FOR LIFE TO MAKE ME MONEY!!!! AAAAAARGH!!!!

[Anonymous No.17811817]

>>17811813
taking your intellectual property and starting a rival company literally down the street is a piece of shit move

[Anonymous No.17811823]

>>17811817
>making boots is intelectual property
>placing your business where there's demand for your product is a dick move

[Anonymous No.17811826]

>>17811823
Oh hi Carl

[Anonymous No.17811850]

>>17811823
no one said they can't do it, it's just a scummy thing to do and if you support nigs over whites you are a nig

[Anonymous No.17811932]

>>17811532
Regardless of any shilling they do for shitty brands, they also promote brands that are actually great and put it on people’s radars. you just have to know what to look for when you see this stuff and to make sure it’s actually going to be worth the money you’d be spending. It doesn’t take much digging around to figure out that Nicks boots are not worth the hype

[Anonymous No.17811951]

>>17811823
ok nigs

[Anonymous No.17811954]

>>17811823
>>17811813
>>17811738
>>17811943
>>17811687
>Nigs

[Anonymous No.17812003]

>>17811802
White’s has been having problems lately as well. I think they’re going down the doc martins route and as production quantity has exploded quality has gone down.

[Anonymous No.17812035]

>>17812003
I have two pairs of MPs from 2018 so this is 5 years ago but one boot is perfect and flawless, the other has a crooked tongue and uneven stitching
doesn't affect fit or anything, it's just unfortunate. this was back when they cost 450 and not 700 which is fucking insane they cost that much now

[Anonymous No.17812309]

>>17812035
It'll piss off /btg/ and they'll ask for pics, but I ordered a pair of custom boots from them and one boot was totally flat with a terrible dye job. The owner at Bakers said he used to check every single boot but nowadays he is simply too busy to check them anymore. They're not worth 700 bucks. It'll also piss off a few autistic fucks on /btg/ but for a couple hundred more I'll get a winter pair of Vibergs or go with Franks.

[Anonymous No.17812336]

>>17810720
>>17810860
lol do officedrone denim nerds from reddit really see "being a tradesman" as a point of authority these days?
here's some evisus i built and remodeled houses in for 16 years.

[Anonymous No.17812357]

>>17812309
I mean, I get it. supply and demand. demand is higher so they can price higher.
but at the same time it means QC is going down because they're trying rush orders out, Kyle at Bakers isn't checking Bakers orders anymore and all the while prices go higher and higher. So they're as expensive as they've ever been with the worst QC they've ever had

[Anonymous No.17812368]

some of you fags need to put away your lame hot takes about "ooo IH is too expensive, yr being scammed" and take a minute to think. No one is buying IH because of the fucking label bro. Like who is trying to flex the fact they own IH to anyone? the reason people are paying $350 for a flannel is because they think it's worth it for the fit, material, and construction.

simply put, I have looked for flannels across the entire internet and there's no other flannels that fit as well (nice and slim, not fucking huge and swimming with tons of folds in back), are as comfy (super soft but insanely thick, thicker than anything youve ever encoutered), and are autistically crafted with zero defects, not even a stitch out of place.

instead of being a little poor bitch you should be taking some notes and trying to understand why people *would* pay that much for a flannel. put that shit on your grail list. i realize they arent in any stores other than NY and SF so you cant really try them on yourself but fuck.

[Anonymous No.17812384]

>>17812357
Kyle told me to fuck off, he didn't see anything wrong with it. Brandon is the one I eventually had to talk to, he used to check each and every custom order and he hasn't because volume has gone up so much.

[Anonymous No.17812386]

>>17812368
The main problem with Iron Heart is that they use jap sizing and if you're tall then you're absolutely fucked. The sleeves aren't nearly long enough and the people who manage US shit will fuck with you if you return shit.

[Anonymous No.17812388]

>>17812386
this is the only reason I haven't got my dream Type III from them (also they never have inventory)

[Anonymous No.17812389]

>>17812368
exactly.
its fine that they're not in the market for it but at least propose an alternative if you're going to shit on it.
high quality cotton flannels are hard to find.
for the fit part l2 alterations but even with that knowledge at your disposal you're going to have a hard time finding stuff as nice as ih.
it is overpriced but so is everything imported from japan. you're paying for not only for high quality clothes but also a ton of import bullshit on top of it.

[Anonymous No.17812391]

>>17812386
>and if you're tall then you're absolutely fucked.
I'm 6'4 and have no problems with their sizing

[Anonymous No.17812394]

my only problem with iron heart is all the ugly and autistic boomers who wear full ih and look like they're wearing a costume because they've never worked a day in their life or ridden a bike before that styleforum, supefuture and reddit is full of.
ih is inexplicably popular with workwear cringelords with no sense of fashion.
but their clothes are good and look good if you're not one of those guys. lifting helps.

[Anonymous No.17812397]

>>17812386
tall guys have a hard time with shirts from japan in general

[Anonymous No.17812400]

>>17812391
fat or thin? I'm 6'3" and have no fucking clue how to size

[Anonymous No.17812403]

>>17812391
when people say height its just a rule of thumb on body averages. its actually torso and arm length that matters. if you're tall but all legs you won't have a problem with shirts.
for example i'm 5'7 and i have the average reach of a 6'2 guy and short legs, picture alexander volkanovski's skeletal frame. so despite being short sleeve length becomes an issue for me a lot. and i can't wear shirts that aren't tailored.

[Anonymous No.17812408]

>its actually torso and arm length that matters
and shoulder width because thats the worst part of a shirt to try to alter

[Anonymous No.17812412]

>>17812391
This is you.
>>17812397
I returned a XXL because the arms were just way too short. Even on the website the sleeves look too short for the guys wearing them.
>>17812400
All you can do is try shit on and see what fits and then maybe measure that. Problem is that everyone measures shit a bit differently. I went to a tailor to get my measurements and right now I'm 53" across the chest and shoulders and that shit don't fly unless you're also morbidly obese with what iron heart makes. Denim anything is basically what you get and can't really be altered without making shit look weird.

[Anonymous No.17812415]

>>17812412
>across
I meant "around."

[Anonymous No.17812437]

>>17812400
fit, 230 lbs

[Anonymous No.17812448]

>>17812412
I have the kersey work shirt, the XXL has 27.2" sleeves, maybe you just have freakishly long arms.

[Anonymous No.17812460]

>>17812386
>>17812391
>>17812400
>>17812397
I'm 6'2", 185 lb and wear an XXXL which fits perfectly. I'm pretty sure they only go up to about XXXXL, but if you're not fat you shouldn't have any problems.

[Anonymous No.17812485]

>>17812448
The shoulders get me. They aren't broad enough so the sleeves get fucked.

[Anonymous No.17812516]

>>17812485
always fit shirts to your shoulder/neck width and sleeves (length+circumf) the rest can be altered

[Anonymous No.17812520]

>>17812516
>denim can be altered
Jeans can be cut shorter, but I dunno about jackets.

[Anonymous No.17812535]

>>17812520
i thought we're talking about the flannels. yeah don't alter denim unless you're so swole its your only option.

[Anonymous No.17812621]

>>17812535
We're talking about jackets. I'm not going to wear a flannel shirt in this life or the next.

[Anonymous No.17812637]

>>17812394
Pretty much this. IH is actually fucking NICE, but as with any style of clothing it looks like shit on the soi coding monkeys that wear that shit. If you actually ride motorcycles or are athletic/buff, the IH fits look great

[Anonymous No.17812678]

>>17812637
a lot of my disdain for it comes from that one german dude in the mid 2000's who used to post a different full iron heart fit every single day of his life on superfuture, all looked autistic. its really just that one guy who might not even post anymore.

[Anonymous No.17812780]

>>17812368
correct. they're thinking in the s*preme mindset

[Anonymous No.17812809]

>spending USD 300 for a crotch blowout

[Anonymous No.17813207]

>>17812809
>being so fat your thighs rub holes in your pants

[Anonymous No.17813305]

>>17813207
This. Crotch blowouts happen when you’re too fat or are just retarded and buy the wrong fit and size. If you get a crotch blowout, it’s your own fault, not the jean’s fault

[Anonymous No.17814266]

>>17813305
those are by far the biggest factors but the way denimfags go long periods between washes also damages the fibers in areas sweat accumulates which contributes to crotch blowouts a lot.
or thinking its a good idea ever to ride a bicycle in raw denim. just don't try even if they fit well it fucks them up.

[Anonymous No.17814427]

>>17812460
idubbz?