/btg/ BOOT GENERAL

[Anonymous No.17699796]

/btg/ BOOT GENERAL - MP EDITION

What do I need to care for my boots?
>Old cotton t shirt (one for cleaning, another for applying conditioners)
>Horsehair brush ($10-15)
>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)
>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bck4/renovateur
>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP
>Don't forget that boots need time to dry properly, rotate them an

How do I deal with x stain?
>mud: allow it to dry then brush off
>salt: water and cloth as soon as possible
>saturated wet: allow the boot to dry for a full day, stuff with newspaper
>scuffs and scratches: buff vigorously with horsehair brush

>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?
No they are filled with synthetic materials aimed at instant comfort but will not hold up to actual use.
>b-b-but muh ecelebs on youtube said they're good
no. you will waste your time and money and still have uncomfortable footwear at the end of the day. spend the extra $100 and get something real.

Manufacturer Red Flags
>Luxury
>Sustainable
>Vegan
>Unknown leather source
>Made in Chyna/Mexico/Indonesia

Boot Red Flags
>Dainite
>C*rk/C*lastic
>Zippers
>Non gusseted tongues
>Excessive/unnecessary seams

PREV>>17686306

[Anonymous No.17699801]

Soloshitter shills have NEVER responded when being called out. Not even once. Kill yourselves.

[Anonymous No.17699813]

>Whites are good
>Posts them
>Turdsdays are good
>nobody ever posts theirs
>solovairs are good
>Nobody posts theirs
makes me think

[Anonymous No.17699825]

>>17699813
The only soloshit posts we've seen actually are of them being garbage and unwearable.

[Anonymous No.17699838]

many such cases

[Anonymous No.17699920]

Thinking about selling my jizz again to save up for some JF's.

[Anonymous No.17699931]

>>17699825
KEK I remember the one pair that had the top black coat peeling off

[Anonymous No.17700092]

>Helm boots

They're not bad at all.
>good construction
>good leather
>comfortable
>reasonable price

For the bad
>made in brazil
>insoles are soft (will wear out quickly)
>outsole rubber is very thin

[Anonymous No.17700097]

>>17699796
Jew nose toe.

[Anonymous No.17700100]

>>17700092
>that midsole

[Anonymous No.17700116]

>>17700100
>midsole
It's not that big of a deal, really.
The bigger issue is the heel outsoles are glued instead of nailed. And some may alsobtake issue that it's Blake stitched

[Anonymous No.17700137]

>>17700116
not necessarily an issue because even the shittiest of cobblers can put on a new toplift. in fact if it were up to me they wouldnt stitch the half sole

[Anonymous No.17700139]

why'd he delete the boots?

[Anonymous No.17700141]

>>17700092
>misole blake stitched to the footbed
>outsole stitched to midsole a la goodyear welt
i don't know why but this seems like a less durable construction method than commiting to either just blake or GYW
combine that with this white fugly synthetic midsole being the key piece bridging both construction methods together and it's a recipe for disaster
also them having a FAQ with "what should i do if my boot falls apart after a year?" is concerning
all this on top of "made in brazil", "as seen on Esquire, WSJ, Forbes, ect."

bro stay far away from these

[Anonymous No.17700172]

>>17700141
Ordered my first pair of White's, can't wait to get them in 8-12 months.

[Anonymous No.17700212]

>>17700172
Only for them to mess up something.

[Anonymous No.17700426]

>>17700097
You're thinking of Thursdays

[Anonymous No.17700434]

>Dayton now selling all their remaining Dayton stock at 50% off

[Anonymous No.17700446]

>>17700139
>tfw missed the sale

[Anonymous No.17700495]

Looking to get my first pair of custom boots (and second pair of boots in my life). Pretty set on the White’s Semi Dress. Would appreciate any thoughts to the specs below and greentext

Pic related is a pic I found of the SD in brown dress on the C461 last with a ¼” lowered (looks like shit imo) heel.

Last — Standard (55)
>I am considering the C461 last as the C461 seems like it has a more interesting profile, and less bulbous toebox than the 55 if I'm understanding it correctly. But I am a wide width (10EEE brannock), so I don’t know if the C461 would better, more comfortable, or look more goofy-looking than a shoe built on the 55 last in this size. Would appreciate thoughts
Toe Vamp Leather — Brown Dress
Upper (Shaft) Leather — Brown Dress
Toe Cap — No Thanks
Celastic Toe Box — Single Celastic Toe
Pull Loops — No Thanks
Leather Liner — No Thanks
Hardware — All Antique Eyes
>Still considering speedhooks, but find them annoying, and on a 5” boot, don’t think that’s needed
Sole Trim — Standard Trim (Double Row Stitch)
Midsole — Single
Heel Base — Standard
Heel Lifts — Standard
Edge — Brown
Sole — Vibram 430 Mini Vib

[Anonymous No.17700541]

>>17700495
definitely don't get the lowered heel meme.

I believe that's one of their sprung toe lasts the bulbousness is determined by the celastic (I got 2 pairs of 55 lasts one celastic one not, I'll post them when I get access to my other device)

Think the speedhooks is unnecessary on the SD

Would recommend the standard half comp sole for the uninterrupted heel stack

[Anonymous No.17700545]

>>17699796
Replace lexol with neatsfoot, shit sucks. Never buying a bottle again when all the ingredients are water soluable.

[Anonymous No.17700552]

>>17700545
Lexol is for cheapo leather sofas, Bick 4 contains silicone which is the devil's gonad. OP is an inbred retard so no need to take the sticky seriously.

[Anonymous No.17700553]

Just wondering if I should get Heels or Wedge? I would be walking a lot on it for context.

[Anonymous No.17700555]

>>17700541
Thanks, I really appreciate it.
I think a better way of putting it, based on what I've read, is that the 55 looks more rounded ( whenlooking down at your boots), whereas the C461 has a more "almond-like" look to it. And yeah, the C461 is a bit more springy

Can you speak more about the soles? This is a subject I know very little about, but I figured that the 430 was the best in terms of comfort and durability. Tbh I didn't really look at the half comp sole too much, but will look into it more

[Anonymous No.17700561]

>>17700553
I don't like the way wedge sole looks, I'd get it if I was an ironworker

[Anonymous No.17700755]

>>17700553
Get both and switch between them.

[Anonymous No.17700814]

>>17700495
>less bulbous toebox than the 55
here is 55 vs C&J 325, C&J last obviously mogs it hard in looks, if you don't like bulbous its probably not a good last with a structured toe.

[Anonymous No.17700834]

Delivery from Indonesia.

[Anonymous No.17700836]

i always appreciate goodies, 2 sets of laces and kilties.

[Anonymous No.17700839]

boondockers, sadly they didn't have bronze hardware, might get it replaced.

First soft toe i own.

[Anonymous No.17700840]

Dr.Sole rawcord outsoles

[Anonymous No.17700847]

These cost me around $329 i believe, Horween roughout CXL would have been +$80, but i was cheap and it was the first time i tried jakkrabbits so i went with their local leather. Its fine honestly. I'm not saying they are better than my Vibergs, but i like them more probably, and they are less than half the price once you specc them out with Horween leather. Seriously recommended if you don't wanna pay Viberg prices and want to get MTO.

[Anonymous No.17700848]

>>17700847
These cost me around $329 i believe, Horween roughout CXL would have been +$80, but i was cheap and it was the first time i tried jakkrabbits so i went with their local leather. Its fine honestly. I'm not saying they are better than my Vibergs, but i like them more probably, and they are less than half the price once you specc them out with Horween leather. Seriously recommended if you don't wanna pay Viberg prices and want to get MTO.

[Anonymous No.17700882]

Got used Red Wing Merchants. Recommendations for styling with these?

[Anonymous No.17701029]

>>17700495
Oh yeah, and does anyone know if Baker's black friday codes work on MTO - specifically on White's SD? I know they usually do 20% during that time of the year but idk if it applies to MTO on these shoes

[Anonymous No.17701068]

>>17701029
the black friday sale for sure also includes custom whites, but i'm not certain if it's the same -20% as RTW or just -15%

[Anonymous No.17701069]

Are Grenson shoes good? should I cop these

[Anonymous No.17701102]

>>17699796
I love White's so fucking much bros, I wish I could justify having more pairs of them.

[Anonymous No.17701174]

>>17700848
kek definitely a 2030 knockoff

[Anonymous No.17701200]

>>17700553
wedge is more cushiony

[Anonymous No.17701284]

>>17700848
Looks nice. What last is it?

[Anonymous No.17701318]

>>17700139
this parkhusrt no ?
they good ?

[Anonymous No.17701321]

>>17701318
>this parkhurst
yea, they are great I have those exact ones, Oak Rambler Richmond

[Anonymous No.17701328]

>>17701284
hornady last

[Anonymous No.17701355]

>>17701318
I hate how limited the ready to buy boots are from parkhurst. I've seen some cool ones online but they never have anything in stock I actually like.

[Anonymous No.17701359]

>>17701355
>everything is either waxed suede or some moose/ kudu out of stock in your size anyway
Yeah it sucks.

[Anonymous No.17701404]

>>17701029
They've previously included MTO in the sale

[Anonymous No.17701408]

>>17701355
>get shilled on Parkhurst
>but a pair
>one heel is uneven
>comfortable otherwise
>try to send just one boot back
>lmao we have no more
>then I wanna return both
>well you can sand down
No

[Anonymous No.17701412]

>>17701408
>well you can sand down

[Anonymous No.17701416]

>>17701408
#just dropship company things

[Anonymous No.17701417]

>>17701412
It gets fucking worse when you realize that all “ready to ship” boots at White’s/Nick’s/etc are custom boot returns because they fucked up with their shitty process of sending in fucking tracings that they ignore.

[Anonymous No.17701420]

>>17701417

[Anonymous No.17701423]

>>17701417
Isn't that the final few section on bakers

[Anonymous No.17701428]

>>17701423
Yeah, but they also smuggle a few into the other section if it’s a somewhat normal size and not too outlandish.

[Anonymous No.17701436]

>>17701417
Nick’s is the worst about this. Who the fuck needs a 12A boot besides a WNBA player

[Anonymous No.17701442]

>2023
>not embracing the paramemes

[Anonymous No.17701505]

>>17701408
Lol let's see these boots

[Anonymous No.17701545]

>>17701355
honestly at this point it's kind of ridiculous
>continues to be limited stock despite switching production facilites and making nothing but one and the same service boot pattern
>not made in america anymore
>supply chain issues not possibly an excuse anymore
>with them refusing to do anything but quirky colored cf stead and no-name leathers it's pretty clear they are bargain hunting for materials
>competition fiercer than ever in the babbies first boot market
why would you bother hunting for these?

[Anonymous No.17701580]

>>17701442
mate you really need to stop skipping leg day

[Anonymous No.17701642]

>>17701580
t. fatfuck

[Anonymous No.17701708]

>>17701442
Frog > kraut memes.

[Anonymous No.17701753]

>>17701174
kinda the point

[Anonymous No.17701767]

>>17701442
Don't skip leg day

[Anonymous No.17701789]

>>17701767
>>17701580
Post legs

>>17701708
Post boots

[Anonymous No.17701806]

>>17701789
Boots + leg day.

[Anonymous No.17701850]

Unimpressive.

[Anonymous No.17701852]

Unasked.

[Anonymous No.17701864]

>>17701806
Where can I find these?

[Anonymous No.17701876]

>>17701442
What’s the sizing like for paramemes?

[Anonymous No.17701879]

>>17701864
at the gay twink bottom store

[Anonymous No.17701933]

>>17701545
sounds like a classic exit exam

[Anonymous No.17701935]

>>17701879
Why would anyone want their designated twink to wear that shit? I only allow mine to wear ladies’ running shoes or heels.

[Anonymous No.17701939]

>>17701935
...I mean every pic I've seen posted are dyel twinks

[Anonymous No.17701957]

>>17701879
I'm 6'3 and fit and I would beat the living shit out of you.

>>17701864
I'm tired of spoonfeeding you guys over and over and over and over again. You search for Rangers BM65 and make sure they're made by Argueyrolles or Marbot, are made with the grainy thick leather, and don't have less than 7 or 8 eyelets. Fakes can sometimes have 7, but not 8 (allegedly). As you can see mine have 8. These are the air force ones. There are versions made for the actual army (good) and ones made for mall cops (trash). Just like if you buy Austrian memes you look for SteinKOGLER and not the fake shit ones for faggots from reddit SteinADLER. All of this info is from the top of my head, and there was more I can't remember. There was a French page with a lot of details that I had to translate, but they took it down. If they're too cheap, they're guaranteed shit. The price is usually around 120+.

[Anonymous No.17701997]

>>17701957
Yeah I'd bet you would beat me like the way you wish someone would your asshole

[Anonymous No.17702090]

>>17701876
Basically true to size. They are very well fitting, the last is foot shaped like a lot of old US combat boots.

[Anonymous No.17702092]

>>17701957
Internet hard ass

[Anonymous No.17702095]

>>17700555
cap toe is unstructured and plain toe is structured, i'll take a top down pic when there's better light tomorrow

[Anonymous No.17702131]

are nick's/white's/vibergs/service boots in general a meme? why are they $500 or more? is it just to fuck over redditors or is there a point to such high costs?
I want good quality boots that I can wear for a decade or more, but why is there such a huge gap in price from thursdays or thousand miles ($2-300) up to the "good" brands ($5-800)?

[Anonymous No.17702135]

got my first ever pair of boots as a gift recently, black danner mountain lights
I want more...
reocmmend me some cool boots that I might like you think

[Anonymous No.17702137]

>>17702135
https://jimgreenfootwear.com/store/african-ranger-buffalo-skin/

[Anonymous No.17702148]

>>17702131
the cut in half reveals all, cheaper boots are filled with cheap synthetics that offer instant but not long lasting comfort

[Anonymous No.17702156]

>>17702095
Structured clears without a doubt. Thanks!
And yeah after a lot of reading the past 24h, I think I'm gonna go for the half compo sole

>>17702131
>is there a point to such high costs?
Going concern

[Anonymous No.17702160]

>>17702156
>Going concern

[Anonymous No.17702267]

>>17702095
>Collapsed foreskin
Yike. Unstructured. Not even once.

[Anonymous No.17702269]

>>17702131
American manufactured goods cost more because of cost of living. Why do people need to be explained basic economic?

Wait till you find out how such much shits cost in Switzerland.

[Anonymous No.17702300]

I'm going to college to somewhere that snows from like October to April, and I've been advised to get gore-tex boots. Are there any that are recommended or should I just go with the generic ones

[Anonymous No.17702303]

>>17702300

[Anonymous No.17702323]

>>17702303
thx but these are way too impractical for my use case
I'm not gonna be hauling cow dung in the middle of a blizzard

[Anonymous No.17702330]

>>17701408
show pics anon

[Anonymous No.17702352]

[Anonymous No.17702375]

>>17702352
>Made in Chyna

[Anonymous No.17702409]

New to boots. Please no bully.

Looking for winter boots. Where I live winters are long and cold. Need something that doesn't look totally autistic and work with basic preppy like style. I'm mid 20s, average built and blond guy.

[Anonymous No.17702424]

>>17702409
https://www.edwardgreen.com/shop/shoes/galway-walnut-country-calf-mink-suede-walnut-mink-64-last.html

[Anonymous No.17702490]

>>17702409
>>17702424
>new to boots? just buy a pair of galways!

[Anonymous No.17702494]

>>17702490
poorfag

[Anonymous No.17702517]

>>17702092
Talk shit, get hit. Street rules bitch.

>>17701997
>projecting

[Anonymous No.17702519]

>>17701408
come on parkhurst anon show the defect

[Anonymous No.17702622]

>>17702424
based edward green recommender

[Anonymous No.17702766]

>>17702409
>New to boots
answer is always grant stone

[Anonymous No.17702817]

>>17702409
>Looking for winter boots
your insulation should come from socks and not the boots, look to heavy weight merino wool socks
>work with basic preppy like style
pic rel or bean boots

[Anonymous No.17702834]

>>17702424
>>17702490
>>17702766
Thanks anons, got them.

[Anonymous No.17702840]

>>17702834
congrats on being the only anon with edward greens here

[Anonymous No.17702850]

>>17702303
I can wade through atomic waste with these bad boys.

[Anonymous No.17702851]

I need a recommendation: unlined summer shoe that pairs with shorts, preferably easy to buy from the UK

[Anonymous No.17702854]

>>17702851
crown norfhampton desert boot/shoe, unlined janus calf

[Anonymous No.17702856]

>>17702851
There's no boot in the world that's going to work with shorts unless you're the crocodile hunter.

[Anonymous No.17702882]

>>17702851
norfhampton

[Anonymous No.17702896]

>>17702854
>>17702882
Thanks anon - seems like I can style these with shorts

[Anonymous No.17702898]

>>17702856
>unlined summer shoe >>17702851

[Anonymous No.17702902]

>>17702896
just know that they are MTO so you'll not get them this summer

[Anonymous No.17703059]

>>17702851
redpill me on crepe soles
heard it melts in contact with gasoline, can get gummy and gross, wears out fast, gets mad filthy
if i had the option between vibram wedge or this what would be better?

[Anonymous No.17703071]

>>17703059
lightweight and flexible i guess. Not very durable as you said, just get a vibram wedge, especially because they are way more supportive.

[Anonymous No.17703096]

>>17703059
get the vibram wedge. crepe is alright if you're on sand/dirt but not really suited for pavement

[Anonymous No.17703099]

>>17703059
do not get a crepe sole if you are going to be walking on pavement or concrete all the time. i had a pair of clarks that lost their sole after 8 months because that's all i was walking on.

[Anonymous No.17703144]

Anon I saw your unstructured orange suede boots on Styleforum they look good

[Anonymous No.17703206]

Pulled the trigger on those sale price Rancourts. The wait begins

[Anonymous No.17703224]

>>17703206
>that bump going into the cap toe
oh no no nono no

[Anonymous No.17703230]

>>17703206
the front looks genuinely like a dick head
viberg is notorious for this exact same thing
is it really that much cheaper for manufacturers to do this fake cap toe shit?

[Anonymous No.17703239]

>>17703230
>is it really that much cheaper for manufacturers to do this fake cap toe shit?
its not about cost its about form

[Anonymous No.17703244]

>>17703239
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OyrX11cMkE

[Anonymous No.17703355]

>>17703230
pretty sure its just an easy corner to cut

[Anonymous No.17703378]

>>17703239
>form
form has already been ruined with that disasterous captoe bump

[Anonymous No.17703381]

>>17703378
i think its a high volume foot meeting a low volume toebox with celastic
my fake cap toes dont do that

[Anonymous No.17703504]

>>17702131
Whites and Vibergs are generally really well made. Nicks should definitely be priced lower. Their quality control is absolute shit and they cannot justify charging the same price as Whites. In my opinion Vibergs are way overrated. Their lasts just don't really appeal to me, and Dainite soles are just fucking awful due to being hard as a rock and having no traction. In summary out of those three companies mentioned, Whites absolutely takes the cake in terms of build quality, last design, and comfort, and the other two are memes.

[Anonymous No.17703505]

Anons who like celastic on MTO boots, single celastic or double?

[Anonymous No.17703592]

I've decided to get rid of my brown CXL Vibergs and get something that fits me better.

I'm thinking of maybe a brown CXL Carmina instead, commando sole, on Forest EEE last.
Alternatively I thought maybe an Enzo Bonafe MTO in Horween Brown Zug, also on commando sole, on the 363Mod last.

In either case I'd go with a plain toe derby boot obviously.
Any other ideas? I know either of these will fit but I also know they will both look a little dressy.

Wish I could get something like Whites in Europe without paying the mafia (import taxes).

[Anonymous No.17703607]

>>17703504
>$0.02 has been deposited to your account

[Anonymous No.17703630]

Anyone who claimed Dainite has no traction, please tell me where you live, and why is it not a well planned city?

[Anonymous No.17703631]

>>17703504
how much they pay you to shill, bucko?

[Anonymous No.17703636]

>>17703630
It doesn't work on marble and it's attempted murder on wet marble.

[Anonymous No.17703648]

>>17703636
Yes, slide on smooth marble and ice, but if you are not living in a clownhouse 24/7, why would that be a concern?
Most that citydwellers walk on are concrete pavement, road, and carpeted floor.
In fact, dainite is designed not to mark marble floor so you don’t look like a bloody twat who ruined people floor. That’s why they don’t grip on marble.

>Object A doesn’t work on specific X situation therefore they are not Z at all.
American’s public education at work.

[Anonymous No.17703649]

>>17703648
ok fine but the entire common areas of the building I live and the entire building I work in have marble floors

[Anonymous No.17703660]

>>17703649
If those who wear leather sole live, so can you.

[Anonymous No.17703953]

just don't like dainite is all

[Anonymous No.17704042]

>>17703224
The guy clearly got the wrong size. It's an Allen Edmonds last after all and he said he got a D width.

[Anonymous No.17704078]

fellas. I could use some boot advice.

For a while I was considering the Wesco motorcycle cop boot, but I don’t think I want to spend so much

I just found these German military replica things on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/Epic-Militaria-Wachbataillon-us_footwear_size_system-numeric_10/dp/B0BLVSNTN7/ref=asc_df_B0BLVSNTN7/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=649380001658&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14350083288685105965&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9067609&hvtargid=pla-1979669620484&psc=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwtamlBhD3ARIsAARoaEwEFQce0vLVOEEvJu0IE6kr-zor2KCSpLqNl9f8DriIX8bF1u_31ykaAhO5EALw_wcB)) for only $180 but I’m sure the quality is ass.

I’ve also seen good Prada ones but I can’t afford new and don’t want used crusty dusty musty boots.

So my question: what would you recommend for a black boot of this style, either mid calf or a bit higher, under $250 ideally but would go up to $350 if it makes a huge difference.

Thanks for reading the novel gents

[Anonymous No.17704109]

>>17704078
just get the wesco

[Anonymous No.17704129]

>>17701069
>Are Grenson shoes good? should I cop these
Moat of them are made in india, i ordered a pair of their hiking boots on sale once and immediately sent them back, extremely light a cheap feeling, very much a high priced fast fashion oriented brand. Maybe their made in England stuff is better but for those prices i could just get trickers or c&j

[Anonymous No.17704177]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hpDO1W5-vY

I Straightwise dishonest here? I actually don't know but my first reaction/hunch was that the Japs would be painstakingly be making the best cordovan in the world

[Anonymous No.17704197]

>>17703953
Confirmed not a superior englander.

[Anonymous No.17704199]

>>17704177
It's true.

My guess is that there's something in the Horween process that taints the membrane but also protects it, which the Japanese are probably too purist to do.

This is why Horween shell doesn't permanently stain from raindrops for example.

[Anonymous No.17704202]

>>17704177
I have dealt with Horween and Japanese shell and it is absolutely true that Horween just feel and work better.
The Japanese Shinki shell has this line they call Oiled Cordovan which is a pigmented shell that is paint-like.

[Anonymous No.17704203]

>>17704177
Its right, Shinki shell just isn't the same, the dye especially just doesn't look as good.
Maybe there is some obscure small tannery that might make even better Shell than Horween, but in terms of attainable Shell, Horween are best.

[Anonymous No.17704204]

>>17704199
That is far from the truth. Assuming we are talking about Shinki Aniline shell here, the oil they use is just too "solvency". Stains and welts and things that people experience with Shinki shell is just chemical reaction from the water and the oil.

[Anonymous No.17704205]

>>17702148
>We put a leftover piece of leather here instead of this synthetic thing, so that will be another $100.

[Anonymous No.17704291]

>>17700553
Wedge for walking on hard surfaces like sidewalk, pavement, steel, wearhouse, and heel for everything else

[Anonymous No.17704306]

>>17704205
the pnw shills in these threads are pathetic lmao. Just a handful of years ago the same people would be screeching "r-r-reddit!" if people posted the same boots.

[Anonymous No.17704324]

>replying to your own post
yeah pathetic

[Anonymous No.17704327]

>>17702269
They're made in Shenzhen

[Anonymous No.17704329]

>>17702131
Nicks and Whites are soley propped up by urban dweebs that feel for a marketing video

[Anonymous No.17704366]

>>17704329
That specifically describes Viberg

[Anonymous No.17704382]

>>17704366
bergsteins like him don't shit on vibergs

[Anonymous No.17704403]

>>17702519
It’s the left one, if it isn’t obvious. I charged back when he wouldn’t take it back so I treat them like shit.

[Anonymous No.17704405]

>>17704382
The PNW fanboys don’t buy the 2040 last because muh clownshoe much profile. Anyone worth listening to only speaks in honks.
https://youtu.be/Pv29q4vvJ0A

[Anonymous No.17704443]

>>17704403
Left lower rubber heel part is 1/32-1/16 inch (1-1,5mm) thicker than right one ? you can't even feel that walking right anon?
Was expecting worse defect desu.

[Anonymous No.17704447]

>>17704366
kettle calling pot...

[Anonymous No.17704452]

>>17704306
I really want to banish those cucks to literally /out/.

[Anonymous No.17704454]

>>17704327
what specifically?

[Anonymous No.17704456]

>>17704454
he's sour graping again

[Anonymous No.17704463]

>>17704443
It's more than that. When sitting the shoe rocks like a fucking boat. It's annoying as fuck. Standing and walking are fine, which is why I didn't trash them. I can't stand to sit in them, though.

[Anonymous No.17704464]

>>17704463
Well, more accurately it rocks like a see-saw where one end is occupied by a really fat kid who sometimes gets off at random.

[Anonymous No.17704498]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIaXqVWF_GA

[Anonymous No.17704523]

>>17704109
Have you found them for under $650?

[Anonymous No.17704535]

>>17704523
no cause every time i compromise by buying cheaper i would regret it

[Anonymous No.17704553]

[Anonymous No.17704556]

>>17704553
>mixed materials, especially on exotics
eh

[Anonymous No.17704557]

>>17704553
wait these are crocodile, I need to rename this

[Anonymous No.17704558]

>>17704556
I've got shark and kudu boots. I like em. I probably would have gone with a different accent leather on these croc boots.

[Anonymous No.17704560]

>>17704558
>I've got shark and kudu boots
lemme see

[Anonymous No.17704563]

>>17704463
>When sitting the shoe rocks like a fucking boat
but thats by design and a lot of shoemakers do that?

[Anonymous No.17704564]

>>17704403
Autism. It's literally nothing. You're like the people that lose their shit because they got a tiny scuff on their boots.

>>17704557
Fucking hideous

[Anonymous No.17704571]

>>17704563
It's annoying as fuck when only one shoe does it.

[Anonymous No.17704573]

>>17704563
sprung toe lasts do it by design. most shoes do it unintentionally

[Anonymous No.17704577]

>>17704571
not judging but this seems a little tismal
youre allowed to have your standards though
>>17704573
>unintentionally
you can balance the heel but its not worth the time for larger operations and the back wears first anyways so it should slightly increase longevity

[Anonymous No.17704582]

>>17704560

[Anonymous No.17704583]

>>17704557
Eyyyy gringo, como estas.

[Anonymous No.17704586]

>>17704582
yeah that colour combo works unlike that croc pair

[Anonymous No.17704590]

>>17704577
>a little autistic
>on fucking boots general where people bitch for days at a time about cuban heels and dainite
Uh huh
>>17704582
Those are nice.

[Anonymous No.17704618]

Why don't more makers use Tärnsjö leather?

[Anonymous No.17704620]

>>17704618
this make up on the balway pattern instead, think that might be my next MTO. Col.4 Shell Jumper pushed back again..

[Anonymous No.17704632]

>>17704618
What is so special about them?

[Anonymous No.17704637]

>>17704632
I don't know much about it, but its a small tannery in sweden that uses (exclusively?) swedish bovine. The few people that have used Tärnsjö leather say that they really like it, seems like Bonafe via Skoak is the only place to get it.

[Anonymous No.17704655]

>>17704637
>Local tannery uses local skin
What’s so special about Swedish bovine then?
>people that have used it say they really like it
Just like most everything else

[Anonymous No.17704657]

>>17704655
Why does it have to be *special* ? It's a great looking tumbled leather from swedish bovine.

[Anonymous No.17704661]

>>17704657
Then why should more makers use them when they are just some tumbled veg tan?

[Anonymous No.17704666]

>>17704632
>>17704657
Local man exposes reddit bugman’s mentality.

[Anonymous No.17704670]

>>17704661
Because it looks really good, as seen in the pictures i posted.

[Anonymous No.17704695]

rolled edges look cheap to me

[Anonymous No.17704701]

>>17704618
because it's seems unremarkable in every way
frankly the most generic handbag leather you can possibly imagine, which this is almost certainly intended to be

also it's wafer thin with zero temper, which makes the leather get pulled all over the place and looks distorted already on a new boot

BUT Bonafe used it one time on request for a retailer THEN IT MUST BE GOOD
typical novelty seeking hyperconsumer, hope you get fleeced even harder with these limited MTO drops

[Anonymous No.17704702]

>>17704695
Compared to what?
Padded?
Or cut?

[Anonymous No.17704703]

>>17704702
unfinished
i want to see the cross section

[Anonymous No.17704708]

>>17704703
Why does this suspiciously sound Rosy Anvily to me?

[Anonymous No.17704711]

>>17704708
it can sound however you want but it makes a boot look $100 cheaper

[Anonymous No.17704713]

>>17704701
the cuts intended for shoes are 2.2-2.5mm, so you're wrong about that. Its a nice brown color, it has a bit of a different grain than other common tumbled veg tan leathers.

But with you larpers it always has to be something SPECIAL.

[Anonymous No.17704717]

>>17704713
I don’t see how they are any different from any tumbled veg tan out there.

[Anonymous No.17704733]

>>17704717
the shaft is Carmina's tumbled veg tan (elbamat). Interestingly enough Carmina used Tärnsjö a few times before via Skoak.

[Anonymous No.17704753]

>>17699796
how do you guys justify being into boots like this given the current inflation/prices?
my whites were 450 when i got them and they go for 700 now.
i used to want new boots all the time but haven't bought any in a couple years because it just got too expensive to even bother

[Anonymous No.17704755]

>>17704753
i only buy sale now

[Anonymous No.17704757]

>>17699796
>Boot Red Flags
>>Dainite
lmao never change /btg/. once shitposting retards, always shitposting retards

[Anonymous No.17704764]

>>17704753
>I'm not poor.
>Leather footwear is a hobby of mine.
If you don't care enough about it there is absolutely no reason to buy expensive boots.
>>17704757
You can ignore half of the red flags

[Anonymous No.17704830]

>>17704498
if you're above the age of 14 and you le sarcasm, just neck yourself honestly
5 minutes of sarcasm...100% redditor also b*itish

[Anonymous No.17704927]

>>17704764
One pair of horsehide boots will last you the rest of your miserable life. Buy once, cry once.

[Anonymous No.17704931]

[Anonymous No.17704932]

>>17704931
make sure to clean them or the salt water will cause the top layer to crack and peel

[Anonymous No.17705264]

what are some nice black boots like >>17704931
i need to complete my school shooter outfit
very new to fashion

[Anonymous No.17705368]

>>17705264
Black milsurp combat boots are perfect for that look.

[Anonymous No.17705446]

>>17704753
450 was already crazy expensive, not like they were a screaming deal before

[Anonymous No.17705459]

>>17705446
Compare to the Red Wing that was north of 300. 450 was a great deal, with all the add ons considered.

[Anonymous No.17705461]

>>17705264
edward green kentmere in black utah

[Anonymous No.17705464]

>>17705461
He said school shooter not cow shooter.

[Anonymous No.17705469]

who here remembers me asking a few questions some 40 days ago about this engineer boot from a 1-guy small business from my 3rd world country?
Promised to post it 20th of July and some guy here said it was never going to arrive.
It's finally on its way after 1 month in production.
Should arrive by wednesday or thursday at most.

[Anonymous No.17705490]

>>17705446
450 is a screaming deal considering they're handwelted

[Anonymous No.17705493]

>>17705469
>that paper thin leather leading to those creases

[Anonymous No.17705505]

>>17705493
you are gay

[Anonymous No.17705517]

>>17705493
post boots

[Anonymous No.17705520]

>>17705517

[Anonymous No.17705524]

>>17705490
It is important to remember that White’s “handwelt” is not to the standard of European handwelt like Enzo bonafe.

[Anonymous No.17705526]

>>17705524
proofs?

[Anonymous No.17705529]

Cavour sale is live
https://cavour.co/xx/135/sale?p=59&orderBy=Published

They do this every 6 months or so
Rare chance to get high end brands like Edward Green on sale

They are also one of the cheapest places to buy a high quality full canvas suit on sale. But buying an off the rack suit from the internet? Maybe if you have very average proportions and everything always fits.

[Anonymous No.17705530]

>>17705493
the only information on the leather is that it's full grain, though I know that doesn't say much.
anyways, it's not only the best but the only option of engineer boots in my country, and the price is fair. converting directly it costs just about usd 120 which is a joke.

[Anonymous No.17705536]

>>17705530
>converting directly it costs just about usd 120 which is a joke
ok not him but that is a joke
who cares if it creases

people pay like $350 for this Blackbird brand out of India and it creases way worse

imagine buying leather shoes from the country that doesn't touch cows

[Anonymous No.17705537]

luv me rolls, hate creases is all

[Anonymous No.17705571]

>>17705526
Look at their promotional video
-channel is cut by machine, not the carved holdfast method (the Kreosote guy does this)
-welt is from upper leather, not hard veg tan welt
-Low SPI and/or tension resulting in puckering around the toe

[Anonymous No.17705576]

>>17705536
Indian do touch cows, not all Indian are Hindu.

[Anonymous No.17705606]

>>17705536
Indian water buffalo hide ain’t bad.

[Anonymous No.17705733]

>>17705469
Gross old man wrinkly ballsack (no sexo)
>>17705520
beautiful soft rolls like on a healthy weight woman (SEXO)

[Anonymous No.17705773]

>>17705571
>channel is cut by machine, not the carved holdfast
eh. a machine will be more consistent
>welt is from upper leather, not hard veg tan welt
a good point but the uppers on Whites is much much thicker than anything else on the market
>-Low SPI
less holes punched into the leather is better desu

[Anonymous No.17705775]

>>17705537
Everything creases, even the rolls.

[Anonymous No.17705784]

>>17705773
>a good point but the uppers on Whites is much much thicker than anything else on the market
that doesn't equal good, in fact it sucks having thicker uppers to break in. Its nothing special that they use thicker cuts from the tannery that aren't as well suited for footwear.

[Anonymous No.17705808]

>>17705773
>I have not a single idea about bootmaking

Let’s debunk
>machine is more consistent
Also inferior as the cut flap can be damaged, broken, tear through
>thick upper leather
Meaningless, the leather is skived down thin to be used as a welt
>less holes punched
Irrelevant, you need at least a few more stitches to get that necessary tension holding everything together tightly, also, if the threads are well waxed, water leakage wont be a real problem, which I doubt Whites does as their insoles usually look water-damaged

In conclusion
>Cope

[Anonymous No.17705811]

>>17705808
>deboooonked

[Anonymous No.17705840]

>>17705811
Good goyim needs to learn.

[Anonymous No.17705860]

>complains about Whites using a machine to cut the leather holdfast
>but not when vi(((berg))) does it

[Anonymous No.17705885]

>>17705490
whats so special about handwelt anyways ? never had a problem with carmina and they are machine welted

[Anonymous No.17705889]

>>17705860
Viberg don’t advertise “Handwelt”, they clearly stated channeled insole goodyearwelt.

[Anonymous No.17705893]

>>17705885
Once the stitch is torn the whole thing can basically be pulled out if you tried hard enough.
With handsewn you can't really do that, if the stitch is torn it's just torn there and you can't just keep pulling it out, therefore it is more durable.
Basically each time the awl is pulled through it gets tied.

[Anonymous No.17705898]

>>17705885
Theoretically better than goodyearwelt. Without getting into all that, it simply takes more labor to do which translates into higher final price.

[Anonymous No.17705903]

>>17705893
>the awl is pulled through
???????

[Anonymous No.17705908]

>>17705860
My 2040s were also cheaper than Whitestein’s bounty hunters.

[Anonymous No.17705911]

>>17705893
>>17705898
so its just for internet points ? why would i pay double the price for 0.1% increase in quality ?

[Anonymous No.17705913]

>>17705903
Pushed*

[Anonymous No.17705918]

>>17705911
I mean, if you're buying work boots it can be pretty useful if it tears, you'll still get a lot of life out of it before has to be fixed.
For everything else, yeah it's the prestige of having a boot that is really made by hand.

[Anonymous No.17705928]

>>17705918
If you’re buying actual work boots for that price, you’re not gonna be actually working in them. It’s for corporate types who have to walk out in the plant every so often and need something “safety rated” so they buy fancy boots to flex on the proles. Everyone actually working gets their shit from academy or wherever.

[Anonymous No.17705929]

>>17705911
Because I think it’s cool. It’s cool some Italian dudes do that by hand, that’s all.

[Anonymous No.17705936]

>>17705928
>If you’re buying actual work boots for that price, you’re not gonna be actually working in them.
They are growing in popularity in the trades.
And the logger style is still used by most Wilderness firefighters.

[Anonymous No.17705938]

>>17705893
That is when it is done via the traditional saddle stitch.
If done using the lock stitch, it is weaker, like how BRIAN THE GREAT BOOTMAKER does it.

[Anonymous No.17705941]

>>17705893
>Once the stitch is torn the whole thing can basically be pulled out if you tried hard enough
Retard. A GYW machine does a lock stitch meaning if one stitch breaks the rest still hold

[Anonymous No.17705944]

>>17705936
They also aren’t paying a thousand bucks for boots. Their employer might, and they may have a deal, but they aren’t paying that much for that shit.

[Anonymous No.17705945]

>>17705941
GY welt machine does a chain stitch, mate, don’t get confuse with the outsole stitch machine.

[Anonymous No.17705947]

>>17705941
Lock stitch certainly holds better than chain stitch, but you can pull 3, 4 knots out at once if one loop break. You can try on your shirt.

[Anonymous No.17705950]

>>17705936
Isnt Italian lightweight boots growing in popularity in that wildland fire scene?

[Anonymous No.17705951]

>>17704927
I have one pair of horsebutt and one pair of horsehide boots, I would get everything in horse leather if I could

[Anonymous No.17705952]

>>17705950
Yeah, but it isn't the majority.

[Anonymous No.17705954]

>>17705945
Welt stitch is meaningless when there's a thick rubber sole over it

[Anonymous No.17705956]

>>17705952
I doubt the average guy give a shit or even know about the Whites handwelt thing. Especially now that they have the cheaper stitchdown line.

[Anonymous No.17705961]

>>17705954
You are right, in real use, it is extremely rare that the welt stitch is ever damaged. The only danger they really face is during the resoling.

[Anonymous No.17705962]

>>17705956
No one here is the “average” guy besides reddit invaders and normalfags who somehow stumbled onto 4chan through sheer coincidence and glowniggers who are taking a break from trying to groom domestic terrorists. There is no reason to discuss the average human, they’re irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.17705966]

>>17705962
/pol/ is that way.

[Anonymous No.17705975]

>>17705961
Not to mention that 99% of people are retards that think the rapid stitch sewing the welt to the sole is "the welt stitch" sewing the welt to the insole

[Anonymous No.17705977]

>>17705966
>t. retard who makes purchasing decisions based on what YouTube personalities say

[Anonymous No.17705985]

>>17705977
What? Are you okay /pol/ schitzo?

[Anonymous No.17705988]

>>17705962
>There is no reason to discuss the average human, they’re irrelevant
Pure /r9k/ basement dweller energy.

[Anonymous No.17706002]

>>17705962
4chan has 22 million daily visitors. It’s not some secret club and really never has been, except for when it was a place for anime freaks who were too degenerate for somethingawful.

[Anonymous No.17706006]

>>17705860
nazi scum needs shot in the face

[Anonymous No.17706022]

Sorry for dirt. The leather layers in my boot sole start to show some gaps, should I fill it with glue? When I took it to cobbler to get rubber toppies replaced, I adressed this issue to him and he said he will tighten the threading? idk how one would do that, but I said ok. The sole layers still showed gaps just as before.

[Anonymous No.17706030]

>>17703504
I wish there was something like whites in europe

[Anonymous No.17706032]

>>17706006
SIRS

[Anonymous No.17706047]

>>17706030
Assuming you mean handwelt rugged boots, there are a bunch of them.

Platform sole, high heel faggotry, then not really.

[Anonymous No.17706057]

>>17706030
where would you even wear those fetish shoes in europe?

[Anonymous No.17706070]

>>17706002
Exactly. This is a place for the most despicable of degenerates. If you’re not at that level, you’re nothing. Your opinion means two things: Jack and shit and Jack got banned ten years ago.

You’re nothing. The few anons who are still left from the goon days can sniff you out from a mile away. You’re a newfag or a youngfag or just a fag or maybe a glownigger but you’re still a pissant.

[Anonymous No.17706075]

>>17706030
Like what? Ugly lasts? I'm sure that exists. Overbuilt boots? Enough of those exist too, while looking better.

[Anonymous No.17706079]

>>17706070
Which school you gonna shoot up?

[Anonymous No.17706092]

>>17706079
All of them, glownigger. Post purchases.

[Anonymous No.17706137]

>>17706079
https://youtu.be/0DOv0-2yyfE

[Anonymous No.17706167]

Yuketen recommends going TTS, but a lot of people that buy them say they regret not sizing down, standard&strange recommends going half a size down
who should you trust now?
anybody got experience with that brand?

[Anonymous No.17706312]

>>17706167
you can fix too big but you cant fix too small

[Anonymous No.17706359]

>>17706092
Your mother does not invoice her blowjob.

[Anonymous No.17706556]

>>17706075
Crockett and Jones?

[Anonymous No.17706558]

>>17706047
Care to share a few? Maybe Enzo Bonafe and Saint Crispin fits the bill but beyond that I don't know

[Anonymous No.17706563]

>>17706558
>*might fit the bill

[Anonymous No.17706574]

>>17706558
There is this guy in the Austrian alp named Philipp Schwarz. He makes traditional all leather mountain boots.
In Hungary, there are Vass, Buday, Attila.
In Slovenia, there is this guy I temporarily forgot the name. It's also mountain/ hiking boots, a bit too chunky.

The French have a country boots scene too but they are generally more expensive (being West of Europe).

[Anonymous No.17706695]

>>17706167
i went true to size in the ring boots

[Anonymous No.17706882]

>>17706574
>Assuming you mean handwelt rugged boots
I mean pretty much all the ones you mentioned seem to be mostly making homosex dress type shoes so these seems like really fucking weird to mention as some sort of European equivalence to White's.

[Anonymous No.17706893]

>>17706556
yea, snowdon in zug

[Anonymous No.17706962]

>>17706882
They can make rugged boots if asked. They have depth.

[Anonymous No.17706999]

Alden makes CXL loafers and it got me thinking - Carmina can do CXL loafers too.
They offer Chromexcel on their custom maker.

Might do that on the genova last

[Anonymous No.17707002]

if you have small feet there's some small sizes left on this deal
https://www.fransboonestore.com/collections/alden/products/alden-snuff-suede-michigan-boots?variant=7180969857

[Anonymous No.17707007]

That's a good fucking price.
But only small sizes left.
https://www.fransboonestore.com/collections/edward-green/products/edward-green-galway-in-utah-chestnut-grained-leather-fur-lined?variant=45942069642

[Anonymous No.17707015]

They have my size on this and I always wanted a suede dover.

But I'm not sure on the color sadly.

[Anonymous No.17707022]

>>17707007
damn thats one hell of a deal on EG
>>17707015
cavour has a bunch of sizes on the unlined dovers still

[Anonymous No.17707601]

Probably going to be getting a pair of MTO engineers from Quan Shoemaker this year. Beside the Benzein engineers, this dude probably has the absolute biggest bang for your buck in terms of pricing, quality of materials construction, and quick turnover period. Can't really understand why people would spend $2500+ for a pair of Role Clubs when you can get something equally as great for half the price

[Anonymous No.17707608]

give it to me straight bros, are Chelsea's gay

[Anonymous No.17707611]

>>17707608
Yes. I have a gay friend who wears them. They are probably the most feminine looking boot them men wear. If you want to look formal, just get some Viberg 2030s or shell Aldens

[Anonymous No.17707617]

>>17707611
>If you want to look formal, just get some Viberg 2030s
the shit i read on here is hilarious

[Anonymous No.17707623]

>>17707617
Unironically yes. 2030s match with formal fits, but are versatile enough to wear casually

[Anonymous No.17707780]

>>17707623
yea formal enough to be dressed up at olive garden maybe

[Anonymous No.17707795]

>>17707617
>>17707780
Autism. Spends too much time on here

[Anonymous No.17707908]

>>17707623
>Thick rugged wide service boots
>Formal

Oh jeez god.

[Anonymous No.17707918]

my wedding shoes

[Anonymous No.17707920]

>>17707611
>They are probably the most feminine looking boot
what about jodhpurs and wyatts

[Anonymous No.17707922]

>>17707908
Nigga, those things have a narrow as fuck toe. You get that shit in shell, its going to be formal

>>17707920
Those are undoubtedly feminine, but I still stand by Chelseas being the most feminine. The jodhpurs and wyatts have straps and buckles, which make it appear slightly more masculine or badass, but that isn't saying much

[Anonymous No.17707927]

a "narrow" toe is all i takes i guess. Bemer BTFO by Viberg

[Anonymous No.17707929]

>shell
>formal

[Anonymous No.17707932]

>>17707929
Low quality bait

[Anonymous No.17707960]

>>17707608
If you're a twink like most of /fa/ then yes Chelsea will look gay on you.

[Anonymous No.17707967]

>>17707960
beef and a chelsea dont mix

[Anonymous No.17708013]

>>17707967
but sexcore people wear Chelsea too

[Anonymous No.17708333]

>>17707967
They can wear Oxford so there’s no reason they can’t wear a chelsea.

[Anonymous No.17708334]

>>17707601
Why are these boots called engeneers when only gay rock stars like rob halford of Judas priest wear them ?

[Anonymous No.17708408]

>>17707922
>narrow as fuck toe
>viberg
Sure thing Mr Ogresson

[Anonymous No.17708593]

>>17699796
When the fuck are they gonna restock them

[Anonymous No.17708805]

>>17699796
What are the boots in op photo?

[Anonymous No.17708813]

>>17707608
the only thing gayer are jodhpurs

[Anonymous No.17708815]

>>17707623

[Anonymous No.17708844]

>>17708805
white's MP

[Anonymous No.17708846]

>>17708805
White's MP in brown dress

[Anonymous No.17708909]

Where can I cope some boots the same as these?

[Anonymous No.17708931]

bros, been meaning to get an engineer boot but just tried on a brand-new pair and the shaft is wider than I imagined, my pant hugged the shaft tightly and it wasn't even skinny pants.
Question is: does the shaft get slimmer with time as the leather gets softer and rugged?

[Anonymous No.17708972]

>>17708931
>Question is: does the shaft get slimmer with time as the leather gets softer and rugged?
no. wear looser pants or buy slimmer shaft engineers

[Anonymous No.17708973]

>

[Anonymous No.17708980]

[Anonymous No.17708989]

>>17708973
id?

[Anonymous No.17708999]

>>17708989
nickers

[Anonymous No.17709009]

>>17708972
thank

[Anonymous No.17709014]

>>17708999
model?

[Anonymous No.17709136]

>>17709014
pullman

[Anonymous No.17709139]

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>>17709137
>>17709137

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>>17709137
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