/wt/ watch thread

[Anonymous No.17687731]

> Poorfag guide: https://imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
> Watch essentials 102: https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV
> Purchasing used watches: https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2
> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE

Should I buy this MVMT / DW / "minimalist" fashion watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

Should I buy this Armani / Michael Kors / mall watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/Sw1FsAn

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
> Wrist size or desired watch size

Previous thread >>17686294

[Anonymous No.17687736]

First for quartzchads, mechanicucks on suicide watch

[Anonymous No.17687737]

Some of you niggers are insufferable...

[Anonymous No.17687744]

Hello

[Anonymous No.17687745]

>>17687744
Cool watch anon.
Are you happy with it?

[Anonymous No.17687751]

'sup m8s?

>>17687744
Very nice

[Anonymous No.17687756]

Thoughts on Kermit?

[Anonymous No.17687761]

>>17687744
Looks nice, very shiny.
>>17687751
Hey Mort, how you been?

[Anonymous No.17687764]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJy-9YAFIhQ&t=2m22s

[Anonymous No.17687766]

>>17687756
I like the dial color on its own and the pro pilot X on its own but toy-like colorful dial and brutalist industrial-like watch don't go well together. Not clue with they picked this model.
Also it's such an overused complaint at this point but printed indices on a $4k watch is a hard pill to swallow.

[Anonymous No.17687768]

which is uglier?

[Anonymous No.17687769]

>>17687768
Left, any day. Right has a cooler movement too.

[Anonymous No.17687772]

>>17687768
white is agly as shit!!!!!

[Anonymous No.17687773]

>>17687761
Sup, my friend? I've been well. Very busy, also. What about you?

>>17687756
I feel they mark it more expensive than what they should had, just for the fun factor.

>>17687766
>but printed indices on a $4k watch is a hard pill to swallow.
if only you knew how bad things really are.jpg

[Anonymous No.17687776]

Don't forget

[Anonymous No.17687777]

>>17687776
I forgor

[Anonymous No.17687786]

>>17687777
Fucking waste of quads

[Anonymous No.17687791]

>>17687766
>printed indices on a $4k watch
Who has the best print in the watch industry? I'd bet on Seiko, they literally established Epson. Their print was very crisp back in the 60's already.
>>17687773
I'm fine. I'm actually not but lets pretend i am.

[Anonymous No.17687800]

>>17687791
Step aside.

[Anonymous No.17687801]

>>17687744
Nice PP rip off.

[Anonymous No.17687803]

>>17687786
True. This might've been the worst post I've ever made on this site.

[Anonymous No.17687804]

>>17687744
Just ordered mine. Can't wait for it to show up. Now I just have to wait for the Lorier Zephyr to restock in black and I'll be a happy boy for a while.

[Anonymous No.17687805]

>>17687800
The print itself is fine but the font is a bit cartoonish, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.17687807]

>>17687800
What the actual fuck is wrong with Patek Phillippe? That fucking size, that fucking date window, that fucking dial.

Jesus.

[Anonymous No.17687810]

>>17687805
Yes it is. Patek having a laugh on people it seems...

[Anonymous No.17687814]

>>17687807
They have recently made the best field watch ever tho.

[Anonymous No.17687816]

>>17687800
soul
>>17687814
dogshit

[Anonymous No.17687821]

>>17687814
Nope. Nope they didn't.

[Anonymous No.17687822]

>>17687751
Die in a greasefire

[Anonymous No.17687823]

>>17687814
>>17687816
It is great tho

[Anonymous No.17687825]

>>17687810
I mean it turned out ok, i guess, but if i was Patek making something like this would be the last thing to come to my mind. The date window looks somewhat sloppy as well.

[Anonymous No.17687826]

>>17687822
poortard alert

[Anonymous No.17687828]

>>17687814
Love the case shape but not the asphalt dial.

[Anonymous No.17687834]

>>17687828
That dial helps a lot to make the read easy. And looks good to me, gives a nice textured depth, but of course thats a matter of personal preference.

[Anonymous No.17687839]

>>17687814
>$40k for a steel Calatrava
nah i'm good. like the hands and numerals though.

[Anonymous No.17687842]

>>17687814
What’s the water resistance on it?

[Anonymous No.17687845]

>>17687839
Its white gold according to Hondinkee

[Anonymous No.17687847]

>>17687826
We’re literally all poor here.
No one has yet achieved the combination of having nice watches and also living in a first world country.

[Anonymous No.17687849]

>>17687845
My mistake you're right. That makes the value proposition (if something exists when it comes to Patek) better but who wants a "field watch" made of white gold?

[Anonymous No.17687851]

>>17687804
Why was it so cheap? Is that excluding VAT?

[Anonymous No.17687853]

>>17687849
rich people who will never go in the field

[Anonymous No.17687854]

>>17687842
30m lol

[Anonymous No.17687856]

>>17687751
>parmigiano
cheese watch lol

[Anonymous No.17687857]

>>17687849
Who wants a MECHANICAL field watch? Nobody is using it for war anon.

[Anonymous No.17687861]

>>17687849
>who wants a "field watch" made of white gold?
me

[Anonymous No.17687863]

>>17687857
I don't know, I think field watches are obsolete and now solely for autists.

[Anonymous No.17687864]

>>17687857
who wants a mechanical diving watch? a mechanical chronograph? pointless argument

[Anonymous No.17687865]

>>17687854
More than enough if you are not an autist.

I have had showers for YEARS with my 30m wr Visodate shitter no prob, even got in jacuzzis a couple times. And my Tomtom gps i use for triathlon is 50m wr and has a swimming mode for the pool that tells you time and strokes etc.

And nobody is swimming with a lesther strap Patek.

[Anonymous No.17687866]

>>17687864
That was exactly my point. All mechanical watches are just for show.

[Anonymous No.17687879]

>>17687856
Indeed cheese watch

[Anonymous No.17687892]

Friendly reminder that Paul Pluta, the method actor known for portraying Archie Luxury, invented the quick wrist watch check.

[Anonymous No.17687896]

>>17687892
>Paul Pluta invented the quick wrist watch check.
A true genius.

[Anonymous No.17687899]

>>17687823
45hrs seems really small in this day and age.

[Anonymous No.17687904]

>>17687800
Wednesday august 33rd?
What the hell?

[Anonymous No.17687908]

>>17687904
It's weeks of the year, numbnuts.

[Anonymous No.17687909]

GOLD

[Anonymous No.17687910]

>>17687909
MORE GOLD

[Anonymous No.17687912]

>>17687856
>>17687879
>Cheese watch.
LOL I love it.

>>17687909
Beauty of a vintage. How well does it keep time?

[Anonymous No.17687915]

>>17687912
If you’re going to smell like cheese, you might as well wear a cheese watch.

[Anonymous No.17687919]

Another gold watch. Doesn't fit me so never wore it.

>>17687912
Haven't timed it but it seems to lose a minute or so every few days.

[Anonymous No.17687923]

>>17687919
I always liked these crazy metal bracelets.

[Anonymous No.17687924]

>>17687919
And my wife's

[Anonymous No.17687930]

>>17687919
>Doesn't fit me so never wore it.
That's a shame. I feel for you. Have you ever thought about going to a jeweler to have it extended by adding a bit more gold before the clasp?

>a minute or so every few days.
That's not bad at all for a vintage watch.

[Anonymous No.17687938]

>june 2023, I am forgotten

[Anonymous No.17687940]

>>17687924
Beautiful too. First looks very similar to one of my mom's.

>>17687938
Noise dial. Congrats.
IWC makes gorgeous colors. (Picrel)

>>17687915
seethe, dil8, etc...

[Anonymous No.17687942]

>>17687940
>IWC makes gorgeous colors. (Picrel)
That IWC is fucking ugly lmao

[Anonymous No.17687944]

>>17687940
Looks like a child’s watch.
IWC hasn’t made a good watch in decades. Richemont garbage for ignorant buyers.

[Anonymous No.17687946]

>>17687940
Looks like its just another random 7750.

[Anonymous No.17687950]

>>17687946
That’s because it is.

[Anonymous No.17687953]

Worst thing about Mort? His pictures.
Who the fuck takes pics so close to the dial?
Not to mention his deformed wrist.

[Anonymous No.17687957]

>>17687953
He thinks the close up pics hide his fat.

[Anonymous No.17687962]

>>17687946
>>17687950
>random 7750
Not quite right, tho.

>>17687953
>>17687957
Keep seething

[Anonymous No.17687969]

>>17687962
You’re right. They used to use 7750s.
Now they use Fleurier movements. It’s easier to call it in-house when it’s more Richemont stuff.

Dishonest marketing, sure, but their customers are generally idiots so who cares.

[Anonymous No.17687970]

>>17687962
You’re in a rude mood today, aren’t you?

[Anonymous No.17687975]

>>17687969
>Dishonest marketing
They’re so shitty with such infantile designs I honestly thought they were a Swatch brand.

[Anonymous No.17687978]

>>17687776
Nobody asked.

[Anonymous No.17687991]

>>17687938
>>17687940
IWC fucked themselves up so hard they were collectively forgotten by everyone on earth that gives a shit about watches.

[Anonymous No.17687993]

>>17687751
>>17687912
I like this watch, despite the combination of the dial and font inexplicably bringing to mind hotel soap for some reason.
I wish it were slightly smaller so it wouldn't look so big on my wrist. All-dial.

[Anonymous No.17687996]

>>17687991
A few months ago I went shopping with my gf and mom and we stopped at a watch store selling Cartier, Breitling, JLC, Omega, Blancpain and IWC.
They both said their favorite one was some blue Portuguese which I thought looked bland as fuck. They also said it was very manly and looked like something James Bond would wear.

[Anonymous No.17687997]

>>17687991
True, but we all had a good laugh when they thought they could change 14,000USD for a warmed-over Baume & Mercier Rivera.

But yeah, completely irrelevant as a brand. That’s probably why their few remaining fans are always in a bad mood.

[Anonymous No.17688000]

>>17687851
Yeah, I'm in the U.S.

[Anonymous No.17688001]

>>17687996
…so your mom and GF are both tasteless morons. Was that by design or just coincidence that the women in your life are imbeciles?

[Anonymous No.17688004]

>>17687768
>which is uglier?
YACHT
MASTER
II

>>17687940
Nice Heineken watch.

[Anonymous No.17688005]

>>17687991
I think IWC is more popular in the Asian markets. I mean I see them in quite a few ADs here in the US but I very, very rarely see anyone wearing one.

[Anonymous No.17688010]

>>17688001
nta but at least be funny

[Anonymous No.17688011]

>>17687993
bringing to mind hotel soap for some reason
LOL Love that funny association.
I think there's a smaller size in the Tonda family, chances are they have applied stones and shit, but maybe there is a more sober reference you may like.

>>17687969
Waaay better finished column wheel chronograph with day and date fast change module. What's not to like?
Plus, goes well with "muh nato" dream team. Picrel

>>17687996
Your mom and gf have good taste, anon. Congrats for that.

...
Well, it's already 4 o'clock here and my clients are probably minutes away.
Ciao, anons.

[Anonymous No.17688012]

I got rejected from a good job so I impulse bought this Seestern chinese shitter to console my pain. How badly did I fuck up?

[Anonymous No.17688013]

>>17688011
>collection of happy meal toys

[Anonymous No.17688017]

>>17688012
at least it's not a sub homage

[Anonymous No.17688018]

>>17688012
There will always be another opportunity, my friend. And a better too

>>17688004
>Nice Heineken watch.
LOL Thanks

[Anonymous No.17688020]

>>17688010
I thought the same thing as him. As the old saying goes “men date their mothers”

[Anonymous No.17688022]

>>17688005
>I think IWC is more popular in the Asian markets.
Not from what I've observed. I don't think they're popular anywhere anymore. I know germans used to go apeshit over them. Not sure about now.
>>17688004
>Nice Heineken watch.
kek cannot unsee.

[Anonymous No.17688024]

>>17688018
It wasn’t a compliment fatso.

[Anonymous No.17688027]

>>17688012
how much did you pay for it? it looks like a 1:1 glasshute original seaq replica. at least it's not submariner "homage"
how is the finish on the watch? is the bracelet rattily and uncomfotable?

[Anonymous No.17688029]

>>17688022
Morgan Stanley estimates they did 800 million CHF in annual sales in 2021 so...people are buying a lot of them.

https://www.watchpro.com/iwc-and-vacheron-constantin-nudging-towards-one-billion-euros-in-sales/

[Anonymous No.17688032]

from 2022

[Anonymous No.17688033]

>>17688027
>it looks like a 1:1 glasshute original seaq replica. at least it's not submariner "homage"
The Glashütte SeaQ is a Submariner "homage".

[Anonymous No.17688035]

>>17688027
bro how should I know? I literally just bought it, who knows how long it'll take to get to me from the Orient

[Anonymous No.17688037]

>>17688011
>chances are they have applied stones and shit,
Yes unfortunately iced up womens' models.
They have started selling a 36mm variant of that hype all steel Tonda sports model, so perhaps they might release something else that'd fit better some time in the future. Depends how strong the wind change blows. But then again, it would cost significantly more at that point and PF are exceptional value at the moment. I just want a nice dressy watch but my options are limited to the obvious classics because of this perception of size; I don't think a dress watch has the same leeway as a sports watch does, at least not on my 6.5" wrist.
>calatrava
>patrimony traditionelle
>saxonia
>maybe 1815
>older jules audemars
>ONE chopard model - wow
Maybe I'll just go vintage ffs

[Anonymous No.17688039]

>>17688032
They should design some interesting watches and lower their prices to where they actually are in the market, as in a slightly upscale Breitling.

[Anonymous No.17688041]

>>17688011
>already 4 o'clock here
Do you live in NY?

[Anonymous No.17688042]

>>17688039
>They should design some interesting watches and lower prices
Riveting insight. I'm forwarding your thoughts to the CEO now. This is going to blow his mind. Genuine question, are you legitimately retarded?

[Anonymous No.17688044]

>>17688032
The interesting thing is that AP and Patek both have a faster growth than Omega (like 4 or 5 times faster) so in 2 or 3 years the market will look like this
>Rolex
>Cartier
>Audemars Piguet
>Patek Philippe
>Omega

[Anonymous No.17688045]

>>17688042
Lmao. You just put a down payment on one or something?

[Anonymous No.17688051]

>>17688017
>>17688012
The arrow-tipped minute hand throws me off. I don't know whether or not I don't like it because it looks bad, or because I'm so used to associating the arrow tip with the hour hand because of the various vostok shitters I've worn.
The hour hand shouldn't look so puny in comparison though imo.

[Anonymous No.17688052]

>>17688033
homage of an homage carries double negativity so it cancels out to a positive thing imo
>>17688035
oh, i misunderstood then. do write your impression when you get it

[Anonymous No.17688053]

>>17688045
No, I'm just wondering how someone so unintelligent has figured out how to use the internet.
>>17688044
Only if Patek and AP are able to continue scaling up their production and I doubt they have that ability. They are already stretched very thin judging by the fact that my local dealers (including an AP boutique) do not really have any watches for sale outside of some gem-set pieces no one wants.

[Anonymous No.17688054]

>>17688044
AP’s growth is dependent entirely on the Royal Oak. Once it goes out of fashion again, their sales will collapse. (The RO spent many years being unpopular.)

[Anonymous No.17688058]

>>17688018
thanks fren

>>17688052
will do!

[Anonymous No.17688061]

>>17688041
South America. Can’t say where though.

[Anonymous No.17688063]

>>17688044
AP doubled from 1B to 2B for one simple reason:
They did what rolex should fucking do and cut out all the cuntish shark dealers.
Boutique only, controlled by them directly so they keep all the riches themselves, fuck the middleman.
Mind you it was likely a lot easier for them to pull something like that off compared with the gargantuan task rolex would have in reining in that whole entrenched worldwide network of official dealers and shadow dealers and then destroying them.

[Anonymous No.17688067]

saw these at a local watch repair shop in Mexico.
guy says the constellation is a friend's and wants ~$880usd firm, and the middle date seamaster he's offering for $650

are these good prices?
what else should I look out for?
I like that seamaster.

he also has an old grand seiko for $50 bucks, lol.

[Anonymous No.17688068]

Posting a based watch that is recognized as /our/ watch by this community

Thank you whoever posted about this watch couple weeks back

[Anonymous No.17688072]

>>17687910
I've always been worried about wearing gold watches cus' of my skintone. How does this one look :p

[Anonymous No.17688077]

>>17688072
Yellow gold looks good on every skin tone. It's rose gold you have to worry about.

[Anonymous No.17688080]

>>17687761
Violently based

[Anonymous No.17688081]

>>17688067
>he also has an old grand seiko for $50 bucks, lol.
Which one?

[Anonymous No.17688083]

>>17687991
what happened to IWC? I forgot

[Anonymous No.17688089]

>get new quartz watch
>go home
>open the box
>it ticks loudly
Why do they do this?

[Anonymous No.17688093]

>>17688083
Used to make good watches.
Decided instead to make bad watches.
Sales started falling so they raised prices.

[Anonymous No.17688104]

>>17688067
The dials look too clean meaning that they've been reconditioned. Whether or not they've been sloppily repainted I don't know. I have a feeling that some of them have been though. Keep that kind of stuff in mind and compare online with examples that haven't been redone.

[Anonymous No.17688109]

>>17688083
A few years ago they decided that they wanted to
>JUST fuck my shit up senpai
themselves and so changed the designs of some of their iconic models so they looked like pure ass.
The rest is basically this >>17688093

[Anonymous No.17688111]

>>17688081
I'll take a pic in a couple hours when I go back by that street.
what do you think about the omegas, tho?

[Anonymous No.17688113]

>>17688077
>It's rose gold you have to worry about.
Who can wear rose? There's different shades of rose/pink gold now that I look at it. Rolex's "everrose" is almost too pink and reminds me of just copper, whereas the hue in Lange/VC etc., is more subtle.

[Anonymous No.17688117]

>>17688044
>AP and Patek both have a faster growth than Omega (like 4 or 5 times faster)
thats because nigs dont rap about the speedmaster

[Anonymous No.17688118]

>>17688067
Typical vintage Omega, not really my style, i like the 2nd from left the most, the Constellation isn't bad either.

[Anonymous No.17688119]

>>17688104
so if they're repainted they're not worth it?
ok.
do you happen to know the reference for that seamaster so I can compare online?
thanks.

[Anonymous No.17688125]

>>17688118
meant for
>>17688111

[Anonymous No.17688129]

>>17688011
dangerously based

[Anonymous No.17688135]

>>17688011
nice bunch'o'watches

[Anonymous No.17688139]

>>17688117
IWC made an allnogsmatter version, piece unique.

[Anonymous No.17688142]

>>17687751
What a stupid name for a watch

[Anonymous No.17688143]

>>17688089
They are working, bro.

[Anonymous No.17688162]

>>17688119
Whether it's "worth" it is up to you . Many collectors don't want refinished things because often the person doing it makes it look like anus. Generally however they are valued less and the prices should reflect that. That's why you should look online to compare prices and models. If you like it and want it you'll buy it. However have a good look at the dials to see if there's a sloppy, thick, paint job and look at the cases and crowns to see how badly they've been polished. If you see details rubbed away by some tard and buffing wheel compared with an un-restored example again the price should reflect that.
Crowns: with vintage watches the crowns are often replaced. Don't want to buy an example where the original is supposed to have a signed (logo'd) crown and yours doesn't because it's some random spare someone scrounged in their bits box for, or the logo has been rubbed away by the tard at the polishing wheel.

[Anonymous No.17688166]

>>17688162
And of course hands. There'll be some online old catalog references for these omegas somewhere. Check to see if the hands that are supposed to come on these models are on the examples you're looking at buying, otherwise again it's some watch repairer scrounging around for hands that aren't original.
When buying vintage watches you have to do your homework. If you can't be bothered to do that just buy it if you like it.
I don't recommend doing that, but it's your money.

[Anonymous No.17688202]

>can be bought anywhere in any store at a discount
>Zoomers still don't want it

Why do Zoomers hate this brand?

[Anonymous No.17688207]

>>17688077
Idk I prefer silver on my skintone. Maybe I'm just not a gold jewelry guy

[Anonymous No.17688209]

>>17688202
What you say is about 5yrs out of date. But to answer VC hasn't been known because to date only one nig raper has included it in their urban jungle beat jews sell to middle class white kids as music.
Rolex, AP and Patek are old hat for the blacks modern americans worship as gods, but Vacheron has thus far been spared this inequity.

[Anonymous No.17688210]

>>17688202
>Why do Zoomers hate this brand?
Zoomers crave authenticity and they understand that VC is just a tarted-up JLC being sold by a soulless corporation.

[Anonymous No.17688213]

>>17687751
Take a shower stinky fat bag of rotten cheese.

[Anonymous No.17688214]

>>17688210
That's just (you) and others that frequent watch shit online. Zoomers neither know nor crave unless they're told to by
>influencers
on thotstagram etc.

[Anonymous No.17688218]

>>17687940
Look at that strap squeezing the fuck out of your fat arm lmao. Just skimmed the thread, why do you guys have such shit taste in watches? Not a single good piece in here. How does it feel knowing that reddit faggots are more wealthy than you?

[Anonymous No.17688221]

>look up watches of painters and philosophers and similar people who shouldn't be into $200k material bullshit
>of course they also have the same rich people shit as everyone else

[Anonymous No.17688222]

>>17688221
It's seriously pathetic.

[Anonymous No.17688223]

>>17688143
I had the wrong impression that it had to do with quality. I have a Timex that you can't have it in the bedroom. The ticking is massive.
I am new to watches, I will post what I have so far sometime.

[Anonymous No.17688225]

>>17688214
Was it this one? It looks good on dark skin.

[Anonymous No.17688226]

>>17688221
I dont believe these things were as expensive relative to the general wages of the day as they are now. But yeah, everyone likes nice things. Real acetics are rare creatures.
When you're showered with money, you're going to find shit to spend it on, no matter what era you find yourself in.

[Anonymous No.17688230]

>>17688221
Those were most likely gifts. But lemme guess “tax the rich” huh faggot

[Anonymous No.17688231]

>>17688230
No, just kill them.

[Anonymous No.17688235]

>>17688226
>everyone likes nice things
American brainwashed retardation at work.

[Anonymous No.17688237]

>>17688226
Also, people then generally only had one watch. That's why you'd see old photos of guys wearing a Cartier Tank while aboard a sailboat.

The whole idea of watch collecting is actually pretty new in the grand scheme of things. Nor was a Patek quite the status symbol back then as now. Obviously, Patek was well-known among the wealthy, but the idea of million dollar Pateks was inconceivable.

[Anonymous No.17688238]

>>17688235
Keep liking shit things then. Why are you even ITT?

[Anonymous No.17688240]

>>17688238
>Why are you even ITT?
Not the same anon, but by this point thread is just salty poortards seething.

[Anonymous No.17688242]

>>17688231
Start with yourself first, useful idiot

[Anonymous No.17688243]

>>17688237
>>Also, people then generally only had one watch.
I just posted both JLC and Patek with highest possible complications.

[Anonymous No.17688244]

>>17688240
That’s every thread here. I’m convinced no one in these threads makes over $100k. This general is just a bucket of crabs, but the crabs are also gay.

[Anonymous No.17688247]

>>17688244
You don't "make" over $100k either. In fact you probably "make" nothing, you just leech/steal $100k due to nepotism and psychopathy.

[Anonymous No.17688252]

>>17688243
So?

It's not like people back then said "Oh, I need a dive watch, and a dress watch, and a chronograph, and a travel watch, and..."

[Anonymous No.17688255]

>>17688237
collecting watches is kinda autistic desu. not to mention if they're automatic, shit will stop while you're using your other watches and you'll have to set it up everytime you want to use it.

[Anonymous No.17688258]

>>17688252
No one says that today either except a tiny subset of reddit nerds who made their money on crypto or in IT, actual rich people just buy the ugliest most expensive watches possible. You think they know what a diver even is lmfao?

[Anonymous No.17688261]

>>17688247
>The CAPITALIST doesn't MAKE money, he STEALS it!

[Anonymous No.17688262]

>>17688261
Yeah no shit.

[Anonymous No.17688265]

>>17687710
>Casio should create a high end titanium line around $1k, and keep the crazy prices for limited editions MRG like the Gassan
That's exactly what they did. The basic titanium models are around $1500 and they go on sale for 25% or with an AD discount you get them for about $1k. The MRG are crazy prices.
>>17687729
>They’re also Xbox huge. Doesn’t matter how much handcraft has gone into it, it still looks like a child’s toy.
The analog MRG are huge but the digital ones are the size of a regular square. Even women can wear them.

[Anonymous No.17688267]

>>17688247
Lmao yep you’re poor. Fuck you commie, I hope you get raped by a pack of negros

[Anonymous No.17688269]

>>17688244
Lawyer anon does. The guy with the other Lange too, maybe.
I'm just happy with my PRX

[Anonymous No.17688270]

>>17688269
Why would you buy a watch with a plastic movement?

[Anonymous No.17688272]

>>17688244
There are definitely richfags lurking though the wise ones rarely post their watches so as not to attract the seething poors

[Anonymous No.17688276]

>>17688272
If only poorfags post, then it’s a poorfag general.

[Anonymous No.17688279]

>>17688270
>ewwww plastic
Grow up

[Anonymous No.17688280]

>>17688279
Here we go, we got a live one. Seething poorfag wagie coping with his polymer watch

[Anonymous No.17688288]

>>17688272
>There are definitely richfags lurking though the wise ones rarely post their watches so as not to attract the seething poors
This. The only richfag who feels the need to flex also happens to be non-white and lives in a 3rd world country.

[Anonymous No.17688289]

>>17688280
There's plastic in everything around you, dumby

[Anonymous No.17688292]

>>17688289
Plastic belongs in the food supply and in the oceans. Not in a fucking watch, you disgusting subhuman.

[Anonymous No.17688293]

>>17688292
It is in your car
It is in your air conditioning
It is in your stove
Is it in your washing machine
It is in your computer
It is in your cell phone
It is in your clothing
It is in rocket ships
It is in satellites
It is in airplanes
So at the end of the day, I don't care if some random part is plastic. It doesn't effect me in anyway.

[Anonymous No.17688294]

>>17688288
>lives in a 3rd world country.
He lives in NY, retard. Read the thread.

[Anonymous No.17688298]

>>17688294
Where does he admit this?

[Anonymous No.17688299]

>>17688293
Nice cope list. There’s zero plastic in my watch lmao

[Anonymous No.17688300]

>>17688299
Cool story bro. How much pussy have you gotten with that line?

What watch is it anyway?

[Anonymous No.17688301]

>>17688298
Yeah, personally I'd be ashamed to admit I live in the third world country of New York City. Unironically.

[Anonymous No.17688303]

>>17688300
youre a fag

[Anonymous No.17688304]

>>17688300
More pussy than your plastic pussy lmao faggot söycunt

[Anonymous No.17688306]

>>17688223
this is nice

[Anonymous No.17688308]

My boss was literally soijacking at me because I called out of work to pick up my watch from the AD lmao

[Anonymous No.17688315]

>>17688294
Your point?

[Anonymous No.17688317]

How come none of you told me that not only is there a GMT Seamaster, it has the best hands and indices combo, AND no fucking helium valve?

[Anonymous No.17688320]

>>17688298
Also, he said it before.
NY is a cesspool, tho. I much prefer living in the middle of nowhere than in ground zero of the the gay, black and jew communities

[Anonymous No.17688321]

>>17688317
Looks like a TAG.

[Anonymous No.17688327]

Found a watch I like being sold new by a commercial ebay watch seller.

The official price is 700€
the seller is selling it for 550€
and used they sell for good condition for 350€.

The seller has the option to send a price offer. What could I realistically offer? They are already selling it for less than the official price but looking at the used prices even that price is a bit high. Could I offer 450€ or will it be seen as an insult?

[Anonymous No.17688328]

>>17688317
>How come none of you told me that not only is there a GMT Seamaster
1. do your own research.
2. it's been discontinued for nearly 20 years.

[Anonymous No.17688332]

>>17688320
He's never said where he lives. He's deathly afraid of getting doxxed.

We assume it's South America because he's brown and ESL. He's in the Eastern US timezone, so he's probably in Colombia or Venezuela or some shit.

[Anonymous No.17688333]

>>17688327
Offer 400 and call him a cunt of he doesn't accept.

[Anonymous No.17688334]

>>17688202
Zoomers are all broke. The small minority of zoomies with money and also care about watches is miniscule

[Anonymous No.17688337]

This thread could use a watch pic.

[Anonymous No.17688338]

>>17688332
Except he admitted living in NY since the time these threads were in g.

[Anonymous No.17688339]

>>17688328
>1. do your own research.
Not him but what the fuck are you going to "research" that would reveal this to you? If you've never heard of a watch and you never see anybody talking about it how would you even think to look it up? Do you just google "[company name] [type of watch]" at random intervals? Even if you did you could get millions of results above the rare and seldom seen watch you'd really be interested in.

[Anonymous No.17688341]

>>17688327
Offer 390, push it up to 450 if he rejects the first offer

Guess also depends how much you like the watch and are willing to play ball with him

[Anonymous No.17688344]

how do i cure seikoautism?

[Anonymous No.17688347]

>>17688338
Except now you're just making shit up.
t. been here since /g/.

[Anonymous No.17688348]

>>17688344
Buy a grand seiko or anything that's above 5k

[Anonymous No.17688349]

>>17688339
Just get good lol

[Anonymous No.17688351]

>>17688337
>This thread could use a watch pic.
Then posts the ugliest Moser besides the hybrid travesty, which is an achievement by itself because most Moser are good looking watches.
You helpless retard...

[Anonymous No.17688352]

>>17688341
I'm just worried that if I lowball in my first offer I will just get ignored. I don't know how personally sellers take this lol

[Anonymous No.17688354]

>>17688351
>didn't post a watch pic

[Anonymous No.17688355]

>>17688348
>>17688344
Don't buy a gay sexko. Buy a SWISS watch and you'll never think of seiko again.

[Anonymous No.17688360]

>>17688344
Give yourself real autism. I have autistic requirements and preferences for watches that prevent me from buying most of them. I have literally bought watches because I dreamed them up before they existed and then bought them when they finally got made. Every new release that doesn't fit my autistic criteria I simply don't buy. I'm a Casiofag so I don't know if this would work on Seiko.

[Anonymous No.17688361]

>>17688337
>posts watch
>>17688351
>5 minutes later, the poors are seething

Jesus this place is predictable as fuck.

[Anonymous No.17688362]

It's not for me but I feel like this is a cool watch that looks more expensive than it is. I thought it would be like 1k but you can get it new for ~$300

[Anonymous No.17688364]

>>17688361
>Jesus this place is predictable as fuck.
Very. Just look up in the thread.

[Anonymous No.17688366]

>>17688362
>moonseiko
Honestly kind of cool. Seiko dials never disappoint even when they have mineral crystal and shitty alignment

[Anonymous No.17688367]

>>17688355
Honestly that dial is fucking dope. I like the blue version better, makes me feel like I’m on shrooms
>>17688361
It’s a bucket of gay crabs
>>17688362
>looks more expensive than it is
This line always makes me laugh. Straight cope out of hodinkee

[Anonymous No.17688368]

>>17688360
>I'm a Casiofag
what are some top models youve acquired that meet your autistic requirements?

[Anonymous No.17688373]

>>17688368
F91W. I actually created this watch right before I predicted 9/11

[Anonymous No.17688374]

>>17688362
>I feel like this is a cool watch that looks more expensive than it is.
The magic of Nippon Watches, opposite of the swiss cheese

[Anonymous No.17688378]

I tried on a deepsea and it wasn’t as obnoxious as I thought. I kinda like it.

[Anonymous No.17688380]

>>17688352
Fuck em, who cares if a watch peddler on eBay get his fee-fees hurt by an initial offer. You'll find that watch again from a different seller with some cajones

[Anonymous No.17688382]

>>17688337
That face looks like the Dolby sound logo I don't like it

[Anonymous No.17688383]

>>17688378
Nah that's just the logo playing with your brain you cooomsumer

[Anonymous No.17688385]

>>17688348
Is there a GS that looks better than this?

[Anonymous No.17688388]

>>17688383
You might be right. This one has a cool dial + chrono + annual calendar but the logo kills it.

[Anonymous No.17688393]

>>17688385
Are the grand seiko bracelets much better than the dog shit they put on the regular seikos?

[Anonymous No.17688399]

presented without comment

[Anonymous No.17688400]

>>17688399
>+45 seconds a day
ohnononono

[Anonymous No.17688402]

>>17688399
nice bracelet fag

[Anonymous No.17688404]

>>17688400
>+60 seconds per day?
Really, is that real? It actually gains 3 minutes per day?
That can't be covered by the warranty, you can't even use a watch that gains 7 minutes per day!

[Anonymous No.17688405]

Why are red dial Seikos impossible to find?

[Anonymous No.17688406]

>>17688399
Is that yours?

[Anonymous No.17688411]

Should I?

[Anonymous No.17688415]

>>17688404
Yeah, one guy posted about a warranty issue he had. For /wt/ that means every single watch made by that company is irredeemable garbage.

[Anonymous No.17688416]

>>17688393
No.

[Anonymous No.17688417]

>>17688399
What's that a river of cum lmfao gay retard.

[Anonymous No.17688419]

>>17688393
I have a SBGF021 from 2007 and it's a mixed bag
Pros:
>solid endlinks
>nice milled clasp with the GS branding
>comfortable and stylish bracelet
Cons
>split pins instead of screws
>no micro adjust, only the option of half links

I think the newer releases have moved up from the split pins but the lack of adjustment remains.

[Anonymous No.17688425]

>>17688419
SEIKOOOOOOOOO LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[Anonymous No.17688426]

>>17688411
Italian meatball sub?

[Anonymous No.17688434]

>>17688373
I see. Tell me anon, have you been taking your meds lately?

[Anonymous No.17688437]

Is ingersoll a shit watch maker?

[Anonymous No.17688441]

holy LUDOKINO

[Anonymous No.17688442]

>>17688437
Yeah. I think they’re one of those brands that was decent in the 50s but now it’s total junk.

[Anonymous No.17688460]

>>17688399
Beautiful. JLC is top tier horology.

[Anonymous No.17688474]

>>17688399
What time is it?

[Anonymous No.17688482]

>>17687737
>>17687768
>>17688032
>>17688162
>>17688378
Buy Rolex. Now.

[Anonymous No.17688485]

>>17688482
Sell me a good Rolex, now

[Anonymous No.17688487]

>>17688485
I have a lovely 28mm Datejust in rose gold for you Anon. Perfect for the lady in your life. Only $31k. Then we can talk about getting you a watch.

[Anonymous No.17688490]

>>17688411
>place of origin: switzerland
>squale
lol

[Anonymous No.17688497]

>>17688442
Ingersoll was always shit. Their entire reputation was creating a disposable pocketwatch attainable even by africans.
>>17688437
Just chinky watches by a chinky brand using the name of a long dead absolute buttom budget american brand only relevant pre-ww2.

[Anonymous No.17688498]

what gshock is this? they have like 100 watches with the same box design

[Anonymous No.17688507]

>>17688490
Squale is in Switzerland, yes.

[Anonymous No.17688512]

>>17688497
China seems to have a way with acquiring the rights to dead american watch company names and excreting bullshit out into the market.

[Anonymous No.17688538]

>>17688388
>grated parmegiano dial
nailed it

[Anonymous No.17688540]

>>17688388
mfs named a watch after a cheese

[Anonymous No.17688544]

>>17687801
Not like Patek invented Breguet numerals. I don’t think anyone’s confusing the two.

[Anonymous No.17688545]

>>17687938
Want
Gorgeous, is it comfy?

[Anonymous No.17688546]

Any word on Tudor’s new release? PVD black to match its gross black sailboat?

[Anonymous No.17688587]

>>17688083
Imagine shitting up your designs, charging high rolex street prices as list price and slotting in a glorified ETA movement found in low swatch shit like hamiltons.
That's IWC.

[Anonymous No.17688590]

>>17688498
It's an GW-M5610u it's on my wrist right now. One of the best G-shock imo. Where is this pic from?

[Anonymous No.17688607]

any thoughts on montblanc? i've seen a few i like but they seem awkwardly priced

[Anonymous No.17688609]

>>17688607
They make two decent enough models of pens.

[Anonymous No.17688612]

>>17688607
Their Iced Sea and GMT are nice if you can get them below MSRP, but they have some interesting pieces, like them waaaay better than what Tag offers.

Their Minerva pieces are god tier though, shame they are so damn expensive but at least they gain value since they don’t make that many per collection.

[Anonymous No.17688613]

>>17688607
Expensive watch (>$1000) companies justify their prices based on either watchmaking heritage, technique / uniqueness of the movement, or precious materials used. Montblanc has none of those.

[Anonymous No.17688615]

>>17688613
Montblanc was given the technique/uniqueness and all that when Richemont bought Minerva and gave it to Montblanc.

[Anonymous No.17688620]

>>17688612
i really like the iced sea but i wish they did one without a date window

[Anonymous No.17688646]

>>17688607
Thank you, no. I prefer Longines.

[Anonymous No.17688647]

Found some more watches in Japan

[Anonymous No.17688648]

[Anonymous No.17688649]

[Anonymous No.17688650]

[Anonymous No.17688652]

[Anonymous No.17688658]

>>17688650
aww shit they re-released the ana-digi citizen?

[Anonymous No.17688668]

>>17688649
bottom right yen?

[Anonymous No.17688670]

>>17688647
>50k watches behind a glass screen like that
america would never

[Anonymous No.17688674]

>>17688670
More like 35k watches, but I see your point. The gold Overseas Chronograph is the more expensive.
In 'murica they'd be hitting that glass with hammers within the first week.

[Anonymous No.17688677]

>got hands like these
>they paper white
what do?

[Anonymous No.17688678]

I have 12k€ to spend on a dress watch, new or vintage, but there's nothing that I really like.

[Anonymous No.17688679]

>>17688677
Eat them

>>17688678
You NEED more money

[Anonymous No.17688680]

>>17688679
I'm gonna bake them with coffee for that grand seiko poop stank

[Anonymous No.17688684]

>>17688679
>You NEED more money
I can stretch to 15k but even for that kind of money there's nothing really stunning. The only that kind of do something is the Reverso Duo Face.
The only watches that really make me hard are around 30k.

[Anonymous No.17688685]

>>17688684
retard lol

[Anonymous No.17688688]

>>17688685
It's alright anon, your Casio is still a good watch.

[Anonymous No.17688689]

>>17688684
let me guess, you need more

[Anonymous No.17688691]

>>17688684
why don't you like the cartier watches

[Anonymous No.17688694]

>>17688650
Is that your your in the back?

[Anonymous No.17688695]

>>17688691
Same. The ones I really like are 20k+ (Tank Chinoise, Tank Cintrée, Tank Normale, etc).

[Anonymous No.17688697]

>>17688650
>anon has a cute gf while in japan
ITS NOT FAIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[Anonymous No.17688700]

Is it better to own a battery powered watch, or a solar powered one?

[Anonymous No.17688704]

>>17688700
battery m8

[Anonymous No.17688706]

>>17688694
>your your
*your mom

[Anonymous No.17688707]

why arent there more matte watches? I love this warm gray case and dial but the watch is too big for me.

[Anonymous No.17688717]

>>17688707
That’s khaki. *shivers* I can’t imagine a white watch blech.

[Anonymous No.17688719]

>>17688678
JLC mut moon blue

[Anonymous No.17688723]

>>17688678

[Anonymous No.17688724]

I want to know what kind of used GS that guy from Mexico is selling.

[Anonymous No.17688728]

Which is better, AQ230 or AQ800?

[Anonymous No.17688729]

>>17688704
Any particular reason(s)? And what's your opinion on atomic syncing?

[Anonymous No.17688730]

>>17688723
I think I just came.

[Anonymous No.17688731]

>>17688728

[Anonymous No.17688735]

>>17688689
here's the thing i hate about this: the top left could have had a 2nd mode to display seconds like in that vintage seiko or even a 3rd GMT mode with a single line for 2nd time zone hour but it has none of that

[Anonymous No.17688747]

>>17688405
It's a tricky color for watches.

[Anonymous No.17688749]

>>17687745
Yes, very much so. Had to wait a month for it but it was worth the wait, I've wanted a salmon dial for a while.

>>17687801
Well, I can't afford a PP, sorry anon.

>>17687804
Sweet, I was tempted by the beads of rice too but I already have a couple of metal bracelet watches. The box it comes with is pretty nice.

[Anonymous No.17688762]

>>17688749
>I was tempted by the beads of rice too
I just didn't like the look of any of the leather bands on it.

[Anonymous No.17688785]

>>17688405

[Anonymous No.17688786]

>>17688405
this too

[Anonymous No.17688796]

>>17688700
Battery vs solar or atomic are the least important things in a watch for me. I could take either one. What matters most are features I use daily and how the watch looks and feels. I don't mind gaining a few seconds a month or changing a battery every few years.

[Anonymous No.17688799]

>>17688728
AQ 800 for me, even bought the black version

[Anonymous No.17688801]

Any nice 40-43mm black watches for around $2000?

[Anonymous No.17688802]

>>17687801
his baltic looks unironically better than this pos

[Anonymous No.17688806]

>>17688670
Because jap thieves are dumb as fuck. They need to get those rookie numbers up.
https://youtu.be/Vus1aDt86As

[Anonymous No.17688811]

>>17687736
based

[Anonymous No.17688815]

>>17688802
I don't think so.
The Baltic is too big and ungainly. It's a dress watch sized up to be sports watch sized.

That Patek is hampered by being a.) a bad picture and 2.) have like 60 years of wear and tear. It's still the more elegant watch.

[Anonymous No.17688816]

>>17688806
>huge increase in robberies
>11 since feb
lol
lmao

[Anonymous No.17688821]

>>17688607
>any thoughts on montblanc?
Up until the early 90s their pens were GOAT. Then they forgot how to make nibs that actually write well. Now, owning one demonstrates that you only bought it for the name.

In many ways, the fountain pen industry suffered in the same way as the mechanical watch industry. The biro/ballpoint made fountain pens obsolete, so the fountain pens shifted to becoming luxury objects.
At the same time, because the majority of fountain pen buyers only know how to write with ballpoints, the fountain pens' nibs had to be made stiffer so customers don't destroy their pens. This also made the fountain pens write worse.

Oh, wait, you were talking about Montblanc watches? Yeah, they're crap. They tried to hack their legitimacy when bought a legendary movement maker (Minerva) but the watches are all shit.

[Anonymous No.17688824]

>>17688801
>black watches
Black dial or whole watch?

[Anonymous No.17688825]

>>17688368
The titanium models. As soon as I got the DW-5035D I dreamed of a version with sapphire and titanium. Lo and behold, a few years later they release the same exact watch with sapphire and titanium. It's not perfect but it's within my autism range.

[Anonymous No.17688826]

>>17688821
tfw 0 calligraphy skill

[Anonymous No.17688827]

>>17688816
I could think was that those were really low level like petty shoplifting. They really need to do more heists of high level pieces with adults this time, not children.

[Anonymous No.17688828]

>>17688677
Give them back jamal

[Anonymous No.17688829]

>>17688821
Modern Montblanc don't have bad nibs but true they aren't exceptional like they were prior, same with Pelikan

[Anonymous No.17688832]

>>17688824
whole watch

[Anonymous No.17688833]

>>17688265
>That's exactly what they did. The basic titanium models are around $1500 and they go on sale for 25% or with an AD discount you get them for about $1k. The MRG are crazy prices.

Gshock arent for everybody. It's a giant wrist brick and even making it titanium won't make it light or go under your sleeve.

A1000 is more like it, it's basically a slim gshock, but I don't really like the fake opal face design or how small the display is compared to the rest of the face. But they are definitely moving in the right direction.

[Anonymous No.17688837]

>>17688833
>It's a giant wrist brick and even making it titanium won't make it light or go under your sleeve.
They have small models for ladies. They also have plenty of slim models that fit under the sleeve.

[Anonymous No.17688838]

>>17688833
>>17688265

This is what a gshock looks like without being retarded.

[Anonymous No.17688841]

>>17688829
>Modern Montblanc don't have bad nibs but true they aren't exceptional like they were prior, same with Pelikan

No, they are bad. They are stiff as nails and so to make them less scratchy, they overpolish the tips.
They're quite literally designed to impress people who've only ever written with ballpoints in the store when they try one out.
>Golly gee, this is so smooth!
Those people are used to applying huge pressure to the pen, even when they think they're writing lightly.

A good nib has flex and bounce, and feedback. On the paper, it should feel almost like a very sharp pencil: letting you know you're writing, but offering no resistance.
Nu-Montblanc just feels like writing with a blunt needle on a pane of glass.

The Italians, particularly Aurora, still make good nibs, but suffer from typically Italian QC. The Japanese as well, though their nibs are set up for the Japanese way of holding a pen, not the European way.

[Anonymous No.17688843]

>>17688837
>They have small models for ladies.

I considered them, i don't like the BABY-G branding. I doubt even the ladies do.

>They also have plenty of slim models that fit under the sleeve.

If you're talking the regular casio I have and appreciate them, but I really wish the display was better like the MIP ones on gshock. Also while f-91w is neat and very cool everybody told me that the world time ae1200 fake metal colored plastic looks fucking cringe.

[Anonymous No.17688847]

>>17688843
Not baby-g. Check the GMD-S5600 line. Most of the main series have smaller versions.

[Anonymous No.17688848]

>spending more than 20 dollars on a casio
bruh

[Anonymous No.17688849]

>>17688841
>A good nib has flex and bounce, and feedback. On the paper, it should feel almost like a very sharp pencil: letting you know you're writing, but offering no resistance.
>Nu-Montblanc just feels like writing with a blunt needle on a pane of glass.
That's entirely subjective to you at this moment. I agree on this preference, but know of people that want a stiff, smooth boring ass nib.
Back in the day these nibs were called Manifold nibs. Pelikan and MB called them KB's aka "ballpoint/tips" and they were for pushing down hard on triplicate paper. They weren't bad nibs; they wrote. But they were characterless by design.
I no longer buy Aurora unless someone's custom ground or tuned it. 10+ years ago? They were flawless. Now they're more "Italian" than ever. Shame.

[Anonymous No.17688850]

>>17688833
>>17688838

Also what the fuck?
The negative displays definitelly need a mre reflective backside, coat it with actual silver rather than this greenish gray whatever.

That would make an actual premium digital watch.

[Anonymous No.17688851]

>>17688838
Then get it. Why are you complaining about a watch you're not interested in? A G-Shock is just a digital watch in a protective enclosure.

[Anonymous No.17688852]

>>17688847
>GMD-S5600
Oh! I had no idea this exists, that's actually pretty cool, wtf are casio doing with their marketing?

[Anonymous No.17688853]

>>17688832
2k is a weird budget for a watch. I'd suggest get this for 1k or save some more money and buy a proper watch.
Why do you want a completely black watch anyway? Steel is better, more versatile.

[Anonymous No.17688854]

>>17688853
SEX!
SEX WITH SEIKO!

Holy shit that watch is fucking great

[Anonymous No.17688855]

>>17688785
I've seen this one, since it's usually the only one to show up on results. Looks stunning, but not ready to spend that much yet on a watch

[Anonymous No.17688857]

>>17688852
Casio has the worst marketing of any company I know.

[Anonymous No.17688858]

>>17688855
Save up some more and buy it then, 1k isn't that much and it's a solid watch for the money. I don't think there's any other Seiko with a red dial cheaper than that.

[Anonymous No.17688861]

>>17688801

[Anonymous No.17688862]

>>17688861
That looks like someone asked an AI to come up with a watch based on every popular high end sports watch at the moment.

[Anonymous No.17688863]

>>17688862
yes, citizen is weaponized autism

[Anonymous No.17688865]

Thoughts on refurbished/used watches?

[Anonymous No.17688866]

>>17688853
Which one do you recommend for a proper watch?

[Anonymous No.17688868]

>>17688861
Why are the proportions always wrong with Citizen? Dial is too small and set too deep, bezel is too thick, markers are too big for the dial, the date window is too thick... Same with the Chronomaster.

[Anonymous No.17688869]

>>17688866
Does it also have to be all black? Just get a Tudor.

[Anonymous No.17688870]

>>17688868
they're trying their best ok

[Anonymous No.17688871]

>>17688869
black dial should be enough

[Anonymous No.17688872]

>>17688865
>Thoughts on refurbished/used watches?
Depends on the condition of the watch.
You can find safe queens, watches that weren't worn more than a few times at most for a fraction of the retail value, or even the gray market value.

I've bought "used" watches that still had all their protective stickers on it and the strap still in a separate, sealed plastic bag, like how watches come from the factory before being loaded into their presentation boxes.

[Anonymous No.17688876]

new thread
>>17688874
>>17688874
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[Anonymous No.17688904]

>>17688870
ok

[Anonymous No.17689033]

>>17688678
as far as I'm aware the Calatrava 5227J is among the most accurately replicated watches by chinks, it ends up costing about 600USD

[Anonymous No.17689422]

Glad the Rolex fatigue has been increasing lately

[Anonymous No.17689725]

>>17688796
So DW5600 over GWM5610? Based.