/rdg/ Raw Denim General

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/rdg/ Raw Denim General Anonymous Fri May 26 17:54:35 2023 No.17638717 [Reply] [Original]

Didn’t there used to be a general for this?

Post raw denim
Discuss raw denim
Wash your goddamn pants

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 17:58:41 2023 No.17638720 File: 378 KB, 1638x2048, Kapital-Ringoman_Coverall-3_Indigo_15_2048x2048.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Wash your goddamn pants "no" Favorite 3 brands ? Mine are THE FLAT HEAD, KAPITAL and EVISU

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 18:09:46 2023 No.17638743 >>17638720 I forgot MISTER FREEDOM. A must visit if you are ever in LA

Anonymous Fri May 26 18:10:51 2023 No.17638748
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Excuse me for phonefagging. Got these in Japan in early April. These are new pics, worn them about 15ish times and washed them once since. Didn’t expect to wash them so soon but I put a lot of sweat in them on my motorcycle and bicycle.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 18:11:53 2023 No.17638750 File: 235 KB, 1280x958, 4461740E-CC3A-443E-8190-767FB8440501.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] One more

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 18:13:01 2023 No.17638754 File: 2.54 MB, 4032x3024, 09F8AB5D-860E-4D17-ABA0-1E61431FE0A3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Also fit pic

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 18:18:39 2023 No.17638768 >>17638748 Beautiful pair Anon, enjoy !!!

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 18:42:47 2023 No.17638800 >>17638720 Based only on what I bought: Momotaro Tanuki Sugar Cane or Graph Zero

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 19:38:35 2023 No.17638853 >>17638800 Momos are based as long as you don’t get the tacky white stripe

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 19:46:58 2023 No.17638865 >>17638720 Mister Loiron himself wearing MISTER FREEDOM

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 19:48:13 2023 No.17638868 File: 807 KB, 800x800, HooperFITS-7_800x.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17638865

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 19:48:53 2023 No.17638870 >>17638720 I only have Oni, SDA and Momotaro's. But i wanna try Samurai eventually since my 0306 Momos just don't fit me at all, they were my first pair and i wasn't really sure what exactly i was ordering.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 19:53:37 2023 No.17638871 >>17638720 >Favorite 3 brands ? Samurai, momotaro, pure blue japan, but there are so many out there i want to try, i really need to get some from TCB

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 19:55:21 2023 No.17638872 >>17638853 >Momos are based as long as you don’t get the tacky white stripe The white stripe back pocket fucking rules. Bitches loved that shit. It's pretty much the best non Levi's 501 inspired embellishment ive seen on jeans.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 19:56:29 2023 No.17638874 File: 197 KB, 800x639, 150741173_o9[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ordered some new jeans last night

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 19:57:33 2023 No.17638878 >>17638874 Nice, are they persimmon or mud dyed?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 19:59:31 2023 No.17638882 >>17638870 Samurais are just on a different level. I wish they didn't move to making almost entirely 18+ oz denims but i still love them.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 20:00:30 2023 No.17638885 >>17638882 i wanted to get a heavier one anyway, my heaviest denim is 15oz right now.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 20:00:46 2023 No.17638886 File: 190 KB, 800x639, 150741173_o12[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17638878 persimmon

Anonymous Fri May 26 20:06:31 2023 No.17638890
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I posted a thread about this before but uniqlo has a run of jeans based on the 1998 helmut lang cut.
https://www.uniqlo.com/us/en/products/E460625-000/00?colorDisplayCode=09&sizeDisplayCode=030
Which is basically a modified 1955 leivs 501 cut.
Im tempted to grab a pair but i know the denim is nothing special, anyone have recommendations for a similar cut black jean made with some more exciting fabric? Black warp x black weft or black warp with white weft are both fine.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 20:07:50 2023 No.17638892 File: 70 KB, 588x588, 1685131645412.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17638890 Bad encode on that image for some reason

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 20:08:06 2023 No.17638894 >>17638886 Sublime

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 20:31:00 2023 No.17638914 >>17638886 sexo

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 20:32:01 2023 No.17638915 >>17638872 Eh idk when I’ve seen them they scream weird European tourist to me. I’m not sure why, they just seem a little try-hard and it’s hard to put into words.

Anonymous Fri May 26 20:40:36 2023 No.17638919

Interrupting the discussion with an ignorant question, but does raw denim get that much more comfortable with wear? I squat and deadlift a decent amount, so my thighs and glutes are larger relative to my waist. I've tried left field's atlas jeans which are supposed to be an athletic fit, but even after a couple months of wear they still felt uncomfortable relative to stuff like 100% cotton chinos.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 20:40:55 2023 No.17638920 File: 2.19 MB, 1162x1653, 1685133622764.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17638915 Ya gotta get some wear on em

Anonymous Fri May 26 20:48:06 2023 No.17638927

>>17638919
What about them is uncomfortable? The feel of the fabic on your skin or the fit and range of motion? They usually are really heavily starched when you get them and soften up after you wash them. If it's fit related you can do a bunch of squats in them to strech em out some, but the fit wont change massively over time.
Wash em inside out, no spin cycle, take em out, roll em up in a towel and squeeze a bunch of water out. Then put em on damp with a belt and do squats/walk up a staircase three stairs at a time for like 10 minutes/sit on a chair with your legs spread out. After you feel like you have achieved the strechage you want you can hang them up to finish drying.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 20:58:01 2023 No.17638936 >>17638927 I think the fit and range of motion is generally the issue, especially around the thighs like I mentioned. I'll try wearing the pair I have wet like you mentioned and see how that works out.

Anonymous Fri May 26 21:01:31 2023 No.17638939

>>17638936
If you look around online you can find some other tips for stretching out jeans when wet. Unfortunately when you actually lift and get big thighs it gets pretty hard to find jeans that work, i don't really love strech denim for denim nerd reasons but it might be something you want to consider in the future.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 21:03:31 2023 No.17638943 >>17638920 Delete my post because I realized it sounded retarded. But yeah I agree those look way better with wear. It just takes time to get there and looks odd until it does.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 21:04:38 2023 No.17638945 >>17638919 You may have to go with a straight taper or straight fit

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 21:09:21 2023 No.17638953 >>17638939 Thanks anon. If the pair I have doesn't stretch out enough I might just give up on the raw denim thing for now; seems cool but might not be my cup of tea

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 21:27:49 2023 No.17638988 i have a pair of naked and famous super guy's but i've outgrown them, i was thinking on getting new ones, is naked and famous still good? they don't seem to have unsanforized options anymore, and almost all of what they have has elastane

Anonymous Fri May 26 21:40:08 2023 No.17639005

>>17638988
yea N&F is still good, I get why people might hate them for their capeshit and rick and morty collabs but they generally have the largest selection of different denim types. Most recent pair I have from them is the non stretch Elephant 11's from last Fall, wore them yesterday and they are great

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 21:41:42 2023 No.17639008 >>17638953 Check out the Brave Star strong man cut, new for them and it's meant for guys that lift. Good prices as well. https://bravestarselvage.com/collections/new-arrivals?page=2

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 22:19:16 2023 No.17639064 Copped some 501 STF on sale to have as summer beaters. Whats the best way to get that low contrast vintage faded look?

Anonymous Fri May 26 22:19:54 2023 No.17639067

>>17638988
>they don't seem to have unsanforized options anymore, and almost all of what they have has elastane
Even that Japanese brands are starting to mostly sell one wash these days. It's annoying and i prefer loomstate with decent before and after measurement charts but it just doesn't translate for a brand like naked and famous that is sold at so many non specialist retailers. The strech stuff im not really happy about but their reasoning is that same, they want to sell to people outside the enthusiast community and that means Sanforized jeans with lots of strech options. They still make some strech stuff but there was a lot of it this year.
Not much else to say, if they make stuff you want buy it, if not look elsewhere

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 22:21:54 2023 No.17639071 >>17639064 just wear them and wash them often

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 22:22:21 2023 No.17639072 >>17639064 Wash them often. High contract fades come from heavy use without washing.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 22:23:23 2023 No.17639074 >>17639067 What’s wrong with sanforized denim?

Anonymous Fri May 26 22:23:47 2023 No.17639078

>>17639064
>Whats the best way to get that low contrast vintage faded look?
Wash em a bunch, like every two weeks of wear or so, maybe monthly on the long end. I would still wash em inside out but you can leave the spin cycle on on the washer for more color loss. i would probably still hang dry them afterwards so you dont get those dryer creases on the legs.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 26 22:24:09 2023 No.17639079 >>17638988 they've got a few pairs of the natural indigo loomstate in the Super guy cut on sale right now https://tateandyoko.com/products/naked-famous-denim-super-guy-loomstate-selvedge?_pos=1&_sid=f999885f6&_ss=r

Anonymous Fri May 26 22:33:14 2023 No.17639095

>>17639074
There isint anything wrong with sanforizing per say, it just doesn't have some of the character that loomstate denim does.
Sanforization has 3 separate processes, the denim is processed to get the shrinkage out of it, it is then processed so the denim wont twist when washed and finally they use a flame to burn the loose fuzzy hairs off the surface of the denim. This improves the produxt for most consumers by fixing the issues that early denim jeans had.
Personally i enjoy the leg twist that occurs with loomstate denim when its washed, i like the appearance and detail. I also the all the little fuzzy hairs on the jeans and watching them being worn off as the first sign of wear.
Im more ambivalent about the preshirking part. I don't miss hving do go on forums to find out how much a particular run of jeans would shirk to figure out what size i should buy. But buying one wash jeans also takes care of that issue.
I have also seen some brand doing only the shrinkage par of the process without the other two steps, which seems like a good compromise.
But this is all autistic detail stuff, im guessing the average consumer would prefer to not have massive amounts of leg twist visible on their jeans, and wouldn't like them to be fuzzy on the surface with little hairs.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 27 00:00:24 2023 No.17639182 Used to own some 503's, whats the best replacement for these nowadays?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 27 00:12:58 2023 No.17639192 >>17639182 They are a 501 cut but looser? Any kind of relaxed straight fit jeans should do. Maybe some of these, but they do have a little taper https://www.lee.com/shop/mens-lee-x-the-brooklyn-circus-101b-cowboy-buckle-back-jean-MBC7725.html

>>	Anonymous Sat May 27 00:14:43 2023 No.17639193 >>17639192 Actually a those have suspender buttons. That would probably make a belt uncomfortable

>>	Anonymous Sat May 27 00:17:42 2023 No.17639196 >>17639182 Maybe one of these cuts would be good https://www.levi.com/US/en_US/clothing/men/jeans/relaxed/c/levi_clothing_men_jeans_relaxed

>>	Anonymous Sat May 27 00:40:09 2023 No.17639216 >>17639196 >>17639192 Thanks bros, Ill take a look.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 27 01:03:49 2023 No.17639235 I want to waste a lot of money on nice denim from Japan but I don't want it to be raw or fade too much. What do I buy that will stay a nice dark indigo forever?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 27 01:08:11 2023 No.17639239 File: 99 KB, 1240x738, pht_denim_07.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] visvim has some great jeans that are of course way too pricey

Anonymous Sat May 27 01:18:18 2023 No.17639246
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>>17638717
very good timing. i was gifted a pair of blue jay selvedge jeans from naked and famous that should be arriving next week. i've never had fancy jeans before. i just wanted to ask what should i avoid doing to mess them up. so far i've got
>wash them on cold, inside out
>don't wash with other garments
>hang dry
anything else to do, or not do?

Anonymous Sat May 27 01:21:07 2023 No.17639249

>>17639235
Hank dyed yarn tends to penetrate most of the way through the core of the yarn so it wont fade as easily.
SDA has a pair out right now, but i can't promise that they wont fade because it depends on how they dyed it. Like a decade ago the natural indigo jeans from the different jap denim companies were known to not fade because they were hank dyed but im not sure if they have change the process since then. Also this cut isint for everyone.
https://www.okayamadenim.com/collections/new-restocks/products/pre-order-studio-dartisan-sd-d01-the-origin-selvedge-jeans-regular-straight
Other then that you can't really stop jeans from fading, some other options would be to get jeans with a blue warp and blue weft thread so they are blue all the way through, they will still fade but it's a different look. There are also black sulpher dyed jeans that resist fading much more than indigo jeans do.

Anonymous Sat May 27 01:22:16 2023 No.17639252

>>17639235
You can waste a lot of money on Iron Hearts and they usually take a lot of time to really fade. I have a pair of 21oz 888s in indigo/black and after many wears and one wash you can barely see any fade lines at all. I personally dislike that fact, but in your case it should be a positive.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 27 01:58:02 2023 No.17639280 >>17639246 Wash cold inside out, hang dry Just wear em and enjoy em and don't stress too much about having to treat them in some special way.

Anonymous Sat May 27 02:00:04 2023 No.17639284

>>17639246
Oh one other thing, if you are trying to go a long time between washes hang them up ofer the back of a chair or on a peg on the wall or in your closest or something when you aren't wearing them. Letting them air out and not leaving them crumpled in a ball on the floor at night will go a long way to keep them from getting stinky

>>	Anonymous Sat May 27 02:03:59 2023 No.17639290 >>17639235 You have to wear the damn things a whole lot to get high contrast fades. They stay dark for a while.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 27 02:46:55 2023 No.17639328 >>17639246 bottommaxxed

>>	Anonymous Sat May 27 02:56:00 2023 No.17639335 >>17638853 I don't know why people keep bitching about the stripes, they look cool once it starts to fade

Anonymous Sat May 27 03:42:47 2023 No.17639366

>>17638717
>Wash your goddamn pants
My PBJ xx-009 only lasted about 18 months before falling apart. I patched them for another 6 months but one time I was outside and hadn’t realized my balls were hanging out of the rip in the crotch for at least an hour. That was the last time wore them. Amazing jeans but I regret falling for the don’t wash meme.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 27 04:10:17 2023 No.17639393 >>17638717 Are there any slim straight/slim boot fits with a high rise that you guys recommend?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 27 04:20:32 2023 No.17639399 >>17639246 They’re like a cast iron skillet. People tend to overthink the care instead of just using them and treating them like the durable thing they are.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 27 04:50:42 2023 No.17639417 File: 114 KB, 700x860, dswdff.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] selvedge bros its my first pair did I fucked up wit sizing or its normal?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 27 07:47:20 2023 No.17639538 File: 63 KB, 554x554, E121AC3A-61B9-4B87-B5E0-F8B25FA8314B.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17639366 >PBJ goat. you haven’t experienced selvedge denim until you’ve owned a pair of Pure Blue Japan

>>	Anonymous Sat May 27 07:53:23 2023 No.17639543 >>17639417 Too big for you so it bunches up weirdly in the crotch.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 27 08:14:08 2023 No.17639559 >>17639543 I was thinking about getting 1 size up. Those are tight in waist so if I size down 1 size I wont able to even zip them... I guess its return

>>	Anonymous Sat May 27 10:19:35 2023 No.17639641 >>17639538 I loved my pair of pure blue japans, they have such an amazing slub texture to the denim, they just felt amazing, probably my favorite pair of jeans to fondle.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 27 10:22:06 2023 No.17639643 >>17639559 They will stretch quite a bit with wear. If they don't seem uncomfortably tight at first they will become too loose.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 27 18:36:26 2023 No.17640150 >>17639417 Pull them up, they look like they want to be worn righr below the belly button

Anonymous Sat May 27 18:40:51 2023 No.17640157
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I have been wearing these lee 101z riders pretty much daily since i got them. Im just starting to see some white peeping through on high wear areas like the hems and the corners of the pockets. Im pretty happy with the fit and the creases have set in nicely. I can't tell if theyse are going to fade quickly or slowly.
Really my only complaint is that i don't like zipper flys, and these haven't really done anything to change my mind about that.

Anonymous Sat May 27 20:23:06 2023 No.17640306

>>17638868
I recently cop'd this pair although not at the 20% discount. They should arrive this week -- thoughts?
https://misterfreedom.com/collections/bottoms/products/malibu-sand-denim-pants

They are more expensive that your average sugar cane denim however I'm hoping the cut makes up for the price difference.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 27 20:41:18 2023 No.17640346 >>17640306 >thoughts? Mister freedom rules, you will probably enjoy them

>>	Anonymous Sat May 27 22:05:16 2023 No.17640493 >>17640306 Looks like perfect everyday staple, enjoy!!!!!

>>	Anonymous Sat May 27 22:39:00 2023 No.17640534 >>17638886 Where to cop

>>	Anonymous Sat May 27 22:41:24 2023 No.17640538 >>17640534 https://www.denimio.com/gz1917sz03-1917s3-nippon-cotton-13oz-organic-cotton-slim-straight-jeans-kakishibu.html Graph zero also jas a stocklist on their website you can check

>>	Anonymous Sat May 27 22:56:12 2023 No.17640549 >>17639071 >>17639072 >>17639078 Thanks anons. Shrank them earlier and they're finally dry. The fit is literally perfect- high rise and all- and makes me sad that regular 501s fit like shit

>>	Anonymous Sat May 27 23:01:45 2023 No.17640556 File: 2.17 MB, 640x800, 1675747669678064.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17639280 >>17639284 >>17639399 thanks guys, i appreciate the advice.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 27 23:13:43 2023 No.17640576 >>17640549 I’ve bought regular 501s and they aren’t a true straight. The 501 fit has changed with time and trends. It’s pretty lame. I’m pretty sure the shrink to fit ones are more like the old true straights.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 27 23:34:51 2023 No.17640597 >>17640538 Many thanks

>>	Anonymous Sat May 27 23:59:05 2023 No.17640639 File: 1.80 MB, 2643x2017, PXL_20230527_234311579~2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Whoops should've lurked more. Here's the non flash shots

>>	Anonymous Sun May 28 00:00:36 2023 No.17640644 File: 1.99 MB, 2751x2042, PXL_20230527_234327996~2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17640639 Back

>>	Anonymous Sun May 28 00:03:08 2023 No.17640648 >>17640157 That's a good fit

>>	Anonymous Sun May 28 01:04:37 2023 No.17640708 >>17640639 Nice, that denim has some interesting texture to it

>>	Anonymous Sun May 28 01:13:52 2023 No.17640713 >>17638717 >Didn’t there used to be a general for this? >jeans >denim There still is. It’s on Reddit. Go check it on and stay a while.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 28 01:28:29 2023 No.17640726 >>17640708 Yeah the knights had a cool cross stitch pattern

>>	Anonymous Sun May 28 01:46:50 2023 No.17640735 >>17640713 post fit, nerd

>>	Anonymous Sun May 28 02:21:35 2023 No.17640760 >>17640735 Post gay, fag.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 28 02:25:50 2023 No.17640763 >>17638853 but the strip is for GOING INTO BATTLE

>>	Anonymous Sun May 28 04:17:42 2023 No.17640861 >>17640760 Quality rebuttal old sport

Anonymous Sun May 28 18:25:39 2023 No.17641714
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My current rotation:
Samurai S520xx, 21 oz
Iron Heart 888 overdyed black, 21 oz
Iron Heart 888, 25 oz

I'm putting away the 25 oz for the summer, they are just ridiculously hot. Although I really dig the deepness of the indigo on those jeans, I actually prefer the 21 oz over the 25 oz. 25 oz denim is certainly enjoyable to experience, but it does not get as soft as 21 oz while retaining enough "thickness" to it

>>	Anonymous Sun May 28 18:32:29 2023 No.17641722 >>17641714 Nice jeans, those cuts are a good choice for heavyweight denim. Really digging the black iron hearts

Anonymous Sun May 28 18:38:16 2023 No.17641730
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>>17641722
Yeah, I've worn in a pair of 777, but at the end of the experience I actually kind of hated it and promised myself to never wear a slim-fit pair of jeans ever again. The 888 (and straight tapered jeans in general) are the ultimate fit. I think that if I had to choose my desert island pair, it would have to be the overdyed black. The photos can't really capture it well, but when you wear in the overdyed black, the indigo start to appear slightly underneath, creating a really beautiful shade of color

>>	Anonymous Sun May 28 18:54:02 2023 No.17641767 >>17641730 >The 888 (and straight tapered jeans in general) are the ultimate fit. Yeah i completely agree, ive never loved relaxed straight leg jeans but throw some taper on there and leave some room in the top block and they just become fantastic.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 28 18:54:32 2023 No.17641769 whats the diff between relax and straight taper?

Anonymous Sun May 28 18:57:09 2023 No.17641772

>>17641730
Generally iron hearts stuff is too heavy for my taste but i really like that they use strong polyester thread. Most of the Japanese brands love using pure cotton thread and it doesn't do the durability any favors. Im sure they consider that a positive and that give you a more authentic vintage jeans look but usually by the time im done with a pair of jap jeans one of the back pockets is hanging off.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 28 18:58:42 2023 No.17641774 >>17641769 It really depends on the brand, usually relaxed has more room in the thighs while a straight taper is more like a 501 cut with some taper on it, but it really varies from model to model.

Anonymous Sun May 28 19:05:41 2023 No.17641780

Where is the exciting raw denim?
I want some rayon blend jeans
I want jeans with that antimicrobial silver shit in them
I want jeans with silk
I want jeans made out of cordura or nylon 6.6
Where is the really wild fabric blends?
Why cant i get jeans made from silk, nylon core merino wool and aramid?
Every brand can make natural indigo, massive slub, 25oz denim.
Where are the new exciting materials?
I see naked and famous do one interesting blend like that a year, the occasional offering from gustin and thats about it.

Anonymous Sun May 28 19:11:21 2023 No.17641785

>>17641767
What they really perfect with their straight tapered fit is that the intensity of the taper is not too dramatic, allowing me to wear my pairs of 888s with engineer boots. I love my Samurais, but the intensity of the taper on my S520xx is VERY dramatic. Because of this, those jeans really only look great if I'm wearing them with a pair of tennis shoes or skate shoes. If I were to wear the Samurais with even a pair of 6" lace up boots, the tightness of the ankle makes it look pretty goofy when contrasted with the largeness of a pair of boots.

>>17641772
Yeah, the beauty of Iron Heart is that they take the classic Americana Levis 501 cut and over-engineers literally everything, making it a perfected version of a pair of Levis.

Anonymous Sun May 28 21:12:17 2023 No.17642003
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>>17641730
>>17641767
Sometimes I wonder if I should have went slim taper instead of slim straight on my Momotaros. According to their website the slim taper is a more roomy fit, even though it doesn’t sound that way. I like my slim straights but sometimes I wish I had a little more thigh room.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 28 21:24:27 2023 No.17642014 File: 2.02 MB, 1720x1436, denimpants1111.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Not quite raw denim, but I copped these from Japan. hope it's ok i post this here

>>	Anonymous Sun May 28 21:25:30 2023 No.17642017 File: 1.18 MB, 1365x2048, denimpants222222.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17642014

>>	Anonymous Sun May 28 21:31:51 2023 No.17642029 >>17642003 Momotaros sizing is confusing as fuck, i can see why they had to make a chart for it

Anonymous Sun May 28 21:32:11 2023 No.17642030

>>17642003
A tapered fit is going to provide a better leg silhouette for anyone with a relatively athletic build. If you are really skinny, slim straight fits will look nice on you because the jeans will remain fairly loose on your legs, but if your quads are even slightly bigger, a slim straight fit will hug your thighs tight while being loose on the calve region of your leg, resulting in a more feminine appearance.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 28 21:32:57 2023 No.17642032 >>17642014 Dope, i love that back pocket design, i think i was looking at those a while ago, what brand?

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>>17642003
>>17642030
Forgot to mention that if you are having any concern at all about slim fits being too tight on your thighs, its because you should really start transitioning to straight fits. Having no crotch mobility can completely ruin your experience of wearing the jeans. Although they may say that their slim tapered fit is more roomy, I really would not trust that. You would be much better off getting a straight tapered fit because its not only going to fit you better, but you will enjoy the comfort it provides

>>	Anonymous Sun May 28 21:37:59 2023 No.17642042 >>17642040 God i love samurais

Anonymous Sun May 28 21:40:33 2023 No.17642045

>>17642042
If we were to separate denim into categories of Americana style (clean weaves, Levis 501 cut) and the Japanese style (slubby), I would say that Samurais strike that perfect balance of slub. Its not way over the top, just the right amount. On top of that they have some incredible shades of indigo

Anonymous Sun May 28 21:53:01 2023 No.17642062

>>17642045
Yeah samurai definitely is out there doing things. Im pretty sure they were the first to do a 19oz denim. Recently they have been growing their own cotton in japan and used it for a limited run of jeans tshirts and sweaters.
I had a pair of their texas sort fiber cotton denim and it was amazing, really fast fading and super high contrast.
I just wish they still made their old 14-15 oz denims more often, it seems like they haven't made anything lighter than 16oz in a while.

Anonymous Sun May 28 22:05:05 2023 No.17642075

>>17642030
>>17642040
They aren’t super tight in the thighs, but they’re pretty slim. It kinda bothers me sometimes how they’re slim there but the legs look like they almost flare out because of how they’re more straight after the knee This is my pic:
>>17638754

Anonymous Sun May 28 22:07:13 2023 No.17642077
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>>17642075
From the front. They don’t look bad at all and I think they fit me well, but I think the next pair of jeans I get will be a straight taper rather than a slim straight.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 28 22:26:07 2023 No.17642107 >>17640306 What does this have to do with sugar cane?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 28 22:31:36 2023 No.17642111 >>17641780 If N&F and swrve aren't good enough you're looking for techwear or a one off from a designer brand, not a subculture that likes repro jeans of days long past

Anonymous Sun May 28 22:37:14 2023 No.17642115

>>17642111
Id say most of the raw denim industry is pretty damn far away from repros at this point. All the super heavyweight denim, the crazy slubby stuff, the crazy weft colors, even most of the serious repro brands have been bullied into making skinny jeans.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 28 22:50:08 2023 No.17642126 >>17642115 Even so, around here cotton is king.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 28 22:50:31 2023 No.17642127 >>17641780 the N&F jeans I have on right now are blended with Dyneema, they had some Kevlar mix ones as well a few seasons ago

Anonymous Sun May 28 23:13:03 2023 No.17642149

>>17642107
I'm not sure about this particular pair; however, many of the denim products sold are designed by Mr Freedom and manufactured by sugar cane and/or utilize their fabrics. So, overall if you are just looking at the fabric these tend to be a worse deal.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 28 23:20:33 2023 No.17642160 >>17642040 This nigga has lady hips

Anonymous Mon May 29 00:24:02 2023 No.17642230

>>17642077
Those look pretty decent. Its good to know that your thighs are not really tight, so it ultimately just comes down to your preference of whether you like it loose under the knees or more tapered. It could look pretty good if you paired those jeans with a pair of boots.

Anonymous Mon May 29 02:13:14 2023 No.17642372

Guys I just don't know what to do
>buy pair of jeans from N&F, they fit tight but told they'll stretch
>they're just not comfortable, consult internet and it seems N&F jeans don't really stretch that much
>exchange for one size up, hastily accept the pair since I was in a rush
>try wearing them around home, they fit but are a bit tight when sitting and now the waist is too big
>website says no refunds
Should I just sell them? They still have the tags and everything.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 29 02:25:47 2023 No.17642383 >>17642372 What type of fit? Are they slim fit? What part of the jeans are tight when your sitting?

>>	dori Mon May 29 02:32:14 2023 No.17642390 hahahahahaha

>>	Anonymous Mon May 29 02:48:29 2023 No.17642403 >>17642383 They're true guys. I have large legs from running so when I sit they feel tight in the thighs.

Anonymous Mon May 29 02:54:45 2023 No.17642414
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>>17642403
If you sized only one size up, there isn't much you can do other than wear a belt. Everybody's body proportions are different and sometimes you just can't seem to find the "perfect" fitting pair without using a belt. If you have an athletic build, people usually recommend wearing straight fits, so you're already pretty much doing the best you can. I lift frequently and also have large thighs, so even though I also wear straight fits the jeans end up getting tight in the thighs when I sit down, its just part of what you should expect. You never know if switching companies could solve your issue though, maybe there is a pair of jeans from a different maker that has just the right waist size. If you want to go this route, I'd suggest getting the waist measurement on your current pair and look at the measurements from other companies to make sure that a pair you're interested in has just a slightly smaller waist while still being slightly larger than the initial pair of N&F you had returned.

Anonymous Mon May 29 03:14:44 2023 No.17642433

>>17642414
I have plenty of non-jean pants that fit very well, but they're all very wide vintage pieces. My main problem is that with my proportions I only feel comfortable in pants with a VERY high rise and after countless hours of searching even most repro fits aren't high enough.

I actually just looked at the N&F site and measurements can vary a lot between denims in the same fit. Looks like some of these in my size have an inch more rise and half an inch more in the thigh and knee, maybe I should try to exchange for that different denim?

Anonymous Mon May 29 03:18:21 2023 No.17642435

>>17642433
Yeah, from what you're telling me it seems that the thighs and the rise are your limiting factors. If you're seeing pairs that have larger thigh and rise dimensions than what you currently have, then I can't imagine they wouldn't fit you better unless the waist is significantly smaller than your current pair

>>	Anonymous Mon May 29 03:58:50 2023 No.17642461 >>17642435 That has always been my issue when buying pants. I guess the real question is do you think an extra inch of circumference would be enough to make a difference or should I just put these on ebay and try to be rid of them?

Anonymous Mon May 29 10:54:08 2023 No.17642771

>>17642461
>I guess the real question is do you think an extra inch of circumference would be enough to make a difference or should I just put these on ebay and try to be rid of them?
Look up how jeans are measured, then measure a pair of your pants that fit well and find jeans with those measurements

Anonymous Mon May 29 17:18:58 2023 No.17643170
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>look up relaxed fit by pure blue japan
>everyone modeling them looks like they are wearing skinny jeans

what's the fucking point then? are there any relaxed/regular raw denim cuts out there?

Anonymous Mon May 29 17:36:03 2023 No.17643182

>>17643170
> are there any relaxed/regular raw denim cuts out there?
Plenty
Evisu 2000
Most TCB jeans
Most jeans from sugar cane
Basically go for the vintage 501 style repo jeans
https://hinoya.shop/en-us/collections/2022-summer-pick-uo-bottoms/products/928-xx01
https://hinoya.shop/en-us/collections/2022-summer-pick-uo-bottoms/products/xx001
https://hinoya.shop/en-us/collections/jeans-selvedge/products/1001xx-1953
https://www.denimio.com/s500ax-18oz-ai-plus-regular-straight.html
https://www.denimio.com/g003-mz-14-7oz-copper-label-classic-wide-straight-zipper-fly-jeans.html
https://www.denimio.com/sugar-cane-sc40401a-14oz-hawaiian-indigo-mixed-sugar-cane-denim.html
https://www.denimio.com/s510xx-21oz-straight-selvage-denim-non-wash.html
https://www.denimio.com/xx001-000-xxxx-extra-model-regular-straight-15-8oz-organic-cotton.html
Thise tcb jeans look fantastic
https://www.denimio.com/tcbjeansxdenimio.html
https://www.denimio.com/tcbjeans-s40-s-jeans-14oz-ww2-black-model-one-washed.html
Any way plenty out there, you used to only be able to find wide taper or wide straight raws and only a handful of branda made slim stuff lol

Anonymous Mon May 29 17:44:06 2023 No.17643192

>>17643170
Yeah basically for price to vale and for the fits you want jsut get any tcb jeans other then their one slim pair and maybe the 60s cut. These guys go all out on repro historical details and accurate vintage denims but are still priced very well.
https://www.denimio.com/brand/tcb

>>	Anonymous Mon May 29 17:47:26 2023 No.17643193 The absolute state of raw denim buyers in current year. >buys a repro jean in the exact weight of the originals, complaints that the denim isn't 18oz >complaints about leg twist!!! smdhfam

>>	Anonymous Mon May 29 17:48:56 2023 No.17643195 File: 492 KB, 2048x1080, 1685382501914.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17643193 So excited i forgot the image Anyway this is why most raws com Sanforized now

>>	Anonymous Mon May 29 17:50:30 2023 No.17643199 >>17643195 >I have two pairs of them >I like them >actually I don't like them

>>	Anonymous Mon May 29 17:54:52 2023 No.17643203 >>17643199 I wonder what percentage of fancy Japanese raws get more then a months worth of wear on them. Maybe 30%?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 29 18:09:34 2023 No.17643225 >>17643203 probably most of them considering nobody on the planet needs a 9" hem with a 29" waist

Anonymous Mon May 29 18:49:20 2023 No.17643271

>>17638717
Tourist here. I'm researching this shit for the last days and this market is dumb. I just want quality jeans that don't get sudden crotch blow out after half a year. Now there are these two extremes of exclusive fapanese denim that nobody else can produce because they forgot the technique like how to repeat the moon landing or some shit and everything else no matter the brand is flimsy fabric produced in the third world with spandex™. has the world gone to shit in the last 10year, can't i get normal jeans?!

Anonymous Mon May 29 18:52:39 2023 No.17643273

>>17643271
They didn't forget how to do it, they sold all the machinery to the Japs a long time ago, just get some N&F or Brave Stars if you don't want to pay out the ass for a decent pair of jeans, or get Wranglers or whatever if you are really broke.

Anonymous Mon May 29 19:04:35 2023 No.17643286

>>17643271
I have 7 pairs of raws because I'm willing to buy second hand and wait for a lucky deal because so many people buy raws but it doesnt work out from day 1 they decide to never wear them. My favorite looking pair is a 100% cotton APC PNS or the slim-tapered cut. 100% cotton fades the best and feels the nicest I think they are 14oz. I live in a hot environment tho so I actually prefer a 98% cotton 2% spandex pair that is 11oz, super light almost like canvas but soft that is designer that I got second hand for 1/8th of the original price. still had tags and fold creases, never worn once.

Anonymous Mon May 29 19:14:08 2023 No.17643296

>>17643273
bad advice, wranglers even shifted their rodeo rigid heavy weight cowboy cut production to Nicaragua and the fabric isnt as sturdy as it used to be. I read that Cinch white label was still decent but my research is still on going.
>>17643286
>falling for the spandex jew
baka buy sweatpants. adding spandex is a way for manufacturers to make low quality denim more durable.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 29 19:21:15 2023 No.17643304 >>17643296 I've hiked about 300 miles in the 2% spandex without crotch blow out which is why i bought them fuck you buddy

>>	Anonymous Mon May 29 19:25:23 2023 No.17643309 >>17643304 leggings wearing faggot. you look like one of those rap niggers in their music videos

>>	Anonymous Mon May 29 19:28:22 2023 No.17643318 >>17643309 look better than u

>>	Anonymous Mon May 29 19:32:05 2023 No.17643325 so my new momo's are bleeding like crazy with even a splash of water do I just wash them now? or wait the six months how do I avoid this

>>	Anonymous Mon May 29 19:42:20 2023 No.17643348 >>17643325 Washing will lighten them and remove some excess indigo. Not sure why yours are fading, I haven’t really had a problem with mine even on tan car seats. Are yours sanforized?

Anonymous Mon May 29 20:00:08 2023 No.17643360

>>17643325
If the bleeding is a problem, turn jeans inside out, put in washing machine on delicate cycle, no detergent, turn off the spin cycle.
Take them out, turn them back outside out, roll them up in an old towel to dry them some and then hang them up or toss them over a box fan set to low to dry them.
Bounus put them on while they are still damp, use throw on a belt so you don't strech the waist and walk up and down a staircase for 10 minutes and then sit in a chair for ten minutes to really set the creases good.
I always wash my jeans like that when i get them and it doesn't affect their ability to get high contrast fades at all, but it helps by getting some of the starch out and making them not bleed like crazy on everything. Still gotta be careful on white couches but its a huge improvement.

Anonymous Mon May 29 20:03:13 2023 No.17643363

>>17643271
Croch blowout mostly happens because people dont wash their jeans often enough. Just buy some levis shrink to fist 501s from some western wear website for $40 wash them inside out cold without detergent, hang dry them and wear them, then just wash them when they start to smell or the croch gets damp or whatever.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 29 20:05:39 2023 No.17643367 >>17643363 How do you size STFs? I wear 32 in Momotaros and either 32 or 31 in Levi’s. I’ve heard you should size up with them.

Anonymous Mon May 29 20:16:45 2023 No.17643384

>>17643363
>Levi's
they're sourced from vietnam or pakistan, mexico if you get lucky. they last a year at most. i have one pair that is over ten years old and that is made in USA. had to throw away all the recent ones because of crotch blow out. i'm washing normally, once or twice a month. don't try to blame me for the obvious inferior fabric quality.

Anonymous Mon May 29 20:19:01 2023 No.17643386

>>17643384
fabric quality is meaningless when the product is not viable due to blow outs, poor design, and extremely heavy weight. you clearly don't consider lighter cotton to be 'quality' which is simply autistic you don't have to wear 23oz jeans everywhere

Anonymous Mon May 29 20:26:28 2023 No.17643397

>>17643367
Measure your actual waist size and then go true to size, or go down a size if you want em TIGHT. Go +2 on your inseam or +4 if you want cufs or stacking. They might be a bit snug in the waist after soaking but they will strech out,
The standard 501 shink to fits typically dont shrink as dramatically as the LVC vintage models

Anonymous Mon May 29 20:31:04 2023 No.17643401

>>17643384
Japanese raw meme denim isn't even particularly durable, they all use 100% cotton stitching which fails quickly in high abrasion areas.
Get some jeans from swerve that are reinforced with nylon
https://swrve.us/collections/cordura-jeans
Or get some jeans with a croch gusset if you need improved durability.
You can also get some heavyweight American made jeans from roundhouse for like $50
https://www.round-house.com
Or get some tellason stock jeans if you don't mind spending a bit more
https://tellasonstock.com

>>	Anonymous Mon May 29 20:33:14 2023 No.17643403 >>17643367 Keep the waist true to size and size up your inseam 2-4+ sizes depending on how much stacking fades you want.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 29 20:35:49 2023 No.17643408 >>17643384 And here are some diamond gusset croch jeans made in usa. Ive never worn them myself but they are supposed to have improved range of motion and better crotch durability. https://gusset.com/collections/jeans

>>	Anonymous Mon May 29 20:41:07 2023 No.17643418 >>17643408 Is industrial blue their only unwashed Jean?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 29 20:47:42 2023 No.17643429 >>17638720 Rogue Territory, Momotaro and Freenote Cloth

>>	Anonymous Mon May 29 20:49:34 2023 No.17643431 >>17643418 Looks like it. Here is a reasonable list of places still making jeans in the USA https://allamerican.org/lists/jeans/

>>	Anonymous Mon May 29 20:51:37 2023 No.17643433 >>17643401 thx i could only find round house with google

>>	Anonymous Mon May 29 21:02:53 2023 No.17643442 File: 19 KB, 549x549, 8408C1F3-EFCC-4B6F-B5B5-3D19C5D40D21.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw I washed my jeans for the first time after sweating in them a lot but I should have just let them dry out for a couple days instead

Anonymous Mon May 29 21:32:07 2023 No.17643473

>>17643442
Best tip for keeping your jeans from getting nasty is hang them up at night, dont toss them on the floor. Some people suggest having two pairs so you can alternate every day and the other pair can air out kinda like with boots.
What i always do especially in the summer is take one of those cheap box window fans, put it on the floor somewhere (or in a window) and then throw the jeans over the fan on low so at night the croch is getting fanned and it dries out/help keep it from getting funky.
But washing your jeans isn't a big deal, just wash em when they need it and don't sweat it

>>	Anonymous Mon May 29 22:37:40 2023 No.17643542 File: 629 KB, 1122x720, 1651888355944.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17638717 I would like to ask for a recommendation. What's a pair of jeans I can buy that are a lighter indigo colour, and in the 12-16 oz weight range?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 29 22:47:11 2023 No.17643558 File: 203 KB, 800x1200, img_6755[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17643542 https://www.denimio.com/01-1050w-99-90s-standard-denim-105-sky-blue.html?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 29 22:49:55 2023 No.17643561 >>17643558 Thanks mate, that's almost the exact kind of colour I was thinking of.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 29 22:51:15 2023 No.17643562 File: 426 KB, 1500x1029, shutterstock_117093997.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17643442 >when you lose the unwashed shine and it was too early to get natural distress

Anonymous Mon May 29 22:55:41 2023 No.17643566
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Just copped a pair of 501 STF Green on ebay in 30x32. I looked everywhere for 34 inseam for sick stacking but there were none. Seems there are hardly any greens left out there for the fitizens.

Anonymous Mon May 29 22:58:09 2023 No.17643573
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>>17643542
Naked and famous aslo did this really light color this season
https://www.nakedandfamousdenim.com/en/lightweight-recycled-selvedge-stone-blue
And this kind of crazy jean that light blue and pink on the inside
https://www.nakedandfamousdenim.com/en/sakura-sky-selvedge
Also the classic wrangler rigid cowboy cut is a pretty light blue
https://www.wrangler.com/shop/rigid-wrangler-cowboy-cut-original-fit-jean-13MWZR.html
Here is a good picture to show theor actual color
https://www.fortbrands.com/17418-thickbox_default/wrangler-mens-pro-rodeo-13mwz-regular-fit-jeans.jpg

>>	Anonymous Mon May 29 23:04:47 2023 No.17643579 >>17643566 Nice, yeah it was quite a while ago now when they did a run of shrink to fits in like 10 different colors. Those are probably still the made in mexico version. That's a nice green color, i like it

>>	Anonymous Mon May 29 23:23:57 2023 No.17643599 >>17643573 Fug. I just bought a pair of the wranglers in boot cut for myself and slim cut for my 2 brothers as belated birthday gifts. $39.95 with the 25% off of $100 came in clutch to save me from being a bad brother. Thanks for the link.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 29 23:25:52 2023 No.17643601 >>17643579 I had a pair of the white oak bricks I copped from a Ross by luck that my ex washed and dried in a machine. They were ruined with less than 60 days on them. I still get annoyed thinking about it.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 00:15:19 2023 No.17643649 >be me >shrink STF jeans >fit perfect in the waist, ass, and thighs >still too long Did I get memed into sizing up on inseam or can I dip everything below the knee into hot water to shorten them some more?

Anonymous Tue May 30 00:18:52 2023 No.17643655

>>17643649
How did you shrink them?
If you are confident you got all the shrinkage out just get them hemmed. Any tailor can do it for not much. If you aren't confident then cuff them until you have washed them once and then get them hemmed or get them hemmed with an extra half inch of length so if they shrink some more you aren't wearing flood pants
People tend to recommend going longer cause they can shink a lot in length. And they typically shrink some more after the first wash.
Just embrace the cuff

Anonymous Tue May 30 00:22:36 2023 No.17643659

>>17643649
If you want to show ankle then you order your inseam true to size. Baggy pants are a visual indication of high testosterone. So if you want to look high test without dropping your pants under your ass like a faggot the smart man sizes the inseam up 2-4 sizes for stylish practical bagging that hides your ankle monitor nicely.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 00:23:55 2023 No.17643661 >>17643649 Cuff them or get them hemmed. You got the hardest part down.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 00:38:48 2023 No.17643683 File: 1.64 MB, 1080x1915, Screenshot_20230529-173548.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Yall remember superdenim?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 01:04:09 2023 No.17643702 >>17643683 I loved that place. I actually attempted to enter the 2009 blue in green constest. But the jeans didn't fit so i gave them to a friend. He fucking shredding those things then wore them as cutoff shorts for a few more years.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 01:10:04 2023 No.17643709 >>17643649 Just hem. After the initial shrink they're ready for a hem but not before or you'll be fucked up

Anonymous Tue May 30 01:11:17 2023 No.17643710

>>17643683
I don't miss having to go on superdenim and look up peoples shrinkage measurements to figure out what size of jeans to buy.
Something about great fades being rare in that era made ut quite special. It's weird that there are just thousands of super high contrast fades all over the internet now. It kinda takes the shine off a little bit.
Hey do you remember that crazy guy that bought a pair of i think samurais and wore them daily for like four years untill they were more patches then jeans? I think he never washed them either I remember him excitedly posting about showing off his horrifying rotting jeans to the owner of self edge and asking the guy for a job as a sales clerk because he was so devoted to that pair of jeans.

Anonymous Tue May 30 01:24:21 2023 No.17643720
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>>17643710
I do. Everyone would give advice based on their own preferences and learn what works and doesn't with your body and style. It was a learning process as everyone elevated the greaser style.

Anonymous Tue May 30 01:32:59 2023 No.17643731

>>17643720
The fits, brand discussion, all that was great. The hype over spruce hoodies. People tanning their four inch thick red moon Japanese trucker wallets in the sun. People going nuts over a 19oz denim and thinking it was crazy.
The forum is still up? I thought the site got nuked a while ago.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 01:33:52 2023 No.17643733 File: 1.61 MB, 991x1653, Screenshot_20230529-174738.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17643702 I always wanted to join those contests, sweet fades used to always result with the pros secret methods

Anonymous Tue May 30 01:37:53 2023 No.17643734

>>17643733
Yeah i was pretty bumbed the pair i ordered didn't fit. IIRC we had to preorder them from blue in green and when they came in the sizing was kinda fucked.
The shrink to fits back then used to be pretty nice, made in mexico. I wonder what the current pairs are like.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 01:39:04 2023 No.17643737 File: 206 KB, 636x1024, 1685410730546.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I gotta shill TCB some more these jeans are fantastic for under $200

Anonymous Tue May 30 01:40:51 2023 No.17643739
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>>17643731
Then everyone posting in all caps when the n&f 24oz elephants dropped before that weight became more widely available. Good times. The site is up but dead, only the off site hosted images are still up.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 01:53:54 2023 No.17643748 >>17643737 Nice. Maybe next year or the year after, when my new 501's and wranglers get worn in. I like the graying fades instead of stark white.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 02:06:03 2023 No.17643764 File: 1.38 MB, 1080x2903, Screenshot_20230529-190227.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17643710 I remember why everyone was hype about samurai now

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 02:07:27 2023 No.17643768 File: 1.13 MB, 966x4048, Screenshot_20230529-190059.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17643764

Anonymous Tue May 30 02:23:03 2023 No.17643779
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>>17643764
Yeah everyone love rhe 710x fit because it was the only slim thing they were really doing and you could get amazing stacks with them if you wore them tight enough.
>these are too small for me now
Damn i know that feeling. I used to wear fucking 28s and 29s, now im a solid 30.
Anyway samurai fucking rules, pic related

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 02:35:39 2023 No.17643798 File: 541 KB, 960x1280, IMG_5645.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Wrangler cowboy cut rigid

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 02:44:26 2023 No.17643815 >>17638717 I boil all my denim

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 02:51:40 2023 No.17643823 >>17643798 Nice, how are they holding up? Stitches holding together?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 02:52:11 2023 No.17643824 >>17643798 ive worn those all my life but i find they hurt my balls too much these days

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 02:56:18 2023 No.17643830 So what's up with Benzak Denim Devlopers? Are they actually doing interesting stuff or are they just a ryding hype from giving free jeans to youtubers

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 02:57:27 2023 No.17643832 >>17643823 Perfect condition. No signs of rips or anything

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 03:05:54 2023 No.17643842 File: 373 KB, 900x900, 1685415940486.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17643830 I should have included a photo Any way they have a sixth pocket with a huge visible selvage line which triggers my autism.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 03:15:35 2023 No.17643855 File: 578 KB, 900x899, 1685416508828.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17643842 Oh i get it the Japanese denim they use from Collect Mills, good stuff Anyway the detailing on the jeans are ugly so that ruins it for me.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 03:17:58 2023 No.17643857 File: 1.49 MB, 2654x1500, PXL_20230530_030342807~2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17643798 Nice color. I'm psyched about mine now. >>17643779 Hilarious. I'm the same, pic related are my retired APC size 28 I dug out of my closet.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 03:29:42 2023 No.17643866 File: 991 KB, 2410x1498, PXL_20230530_030659583~2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm thinking of patching some thrift store navy slacks as a reinforcement for my blown ass cheek on my 501 STF Postals

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 09:53:07 2023 No.17644135 >>17643866 Patching looks pretty great if you are decent at sewing

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 14:02:36 2023 No.17644327 File: 3.59 MB, 4032x3024, IMG_6141.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Should I wash these momos yet?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 14:07:39 2023 No.17644329 File: 880 KB, 1125x1461, IMG_6188.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17644327

Anonymous Tue May 30 14:23:20 2023 No.17644356

>>17644327
Yes please wash them, i can smell them through the screen, at least do a cold soak to get all the ballsweat out of the croch so they don't blow out prematurely.
Cold wash delicate, inside out, no spin cycle with some castile soap or dr bronnees or whatever instead of regular detergent and they shouldn't loose too much color.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 14:24:46 2023 No.17644359 >>17644356 I soak them and air them out pretty frequently, no smell

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 14:24:48 2023 No.17644360 >>17644327 >>17644329 If they’re dirty wash them. You’ll still get good fades as long as you aren’t washing them every week.

Anonymous Tue May 30 14:27:53 2023 No.17644364
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Are straight cut jeans the final redpill for guys who aren’t twinkmaxxing? I’m starting to wish some of my pants had more thigh room and it seems like you can make straights look a bit more tapered by cuffing them.
Also what the fuck is up with Levi’s calling non-STF 501s straight when they clearly have a taper to them?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 14:35:08 2023 No.17644373 >>17644359 Oh if you soak them frequently then its your call, are you going for super high contrast or a more vintage soft fade look.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 14:36:13 2023 No.17644375 >>17644364 The final redpill is not wearing jeans

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 14:37:28 2023 No.17644376 >>17644373 I guess more high contrast is what I’m going for

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 14:48:50 2023 No.17644389 >>17644376 Then you can definitely put off soaking them for a while.

Anonymous Tue May 30 15:03:22 2023 No.17644400

>>17644364
>what the fuck is up with Levi’s calling non-STF 501s straight
they're doing all kind of fuckery because they can. jeans should be a protected designation of origin, that should be 100% cotton denim fabric to put an end to this stretch leggings fraud.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 15:11:40 2023 No.17644410 >>17644364 Yeah I'd say so. Even if you're a twink, straight cut is the most universal, timeless fit. On top of that, its actually comfortable compared to a slim fit. I'm too old at this point to be fighting with my clothes.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 15:20:12 2023 No.17644416 File: 923 KB, 1948x1612, 27A1F0FB-12A7-4687-9DD6-407A0B7AA4AC.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Left is from 2014. Right I got in January. Not sure how I feel about the N&F bootcut leg width. But Im getting used to it.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 16:24:19 2023 No.17644480 I wear 32 waist Momos with about 2 inches cut off the total inseam. Looking at Levi’s STF to add a pair of black jeans to my closet. How should I size them to get them close to my 32/33ish Momos?

Anonymous Tue May 30 16:54:56 2023 No.17644512

>>17644480
Buy stf in your actual waist size, don't size up, go 34 on the inseam and they will shink somewhere between .5 and 2 inches in length depending on what mood they are in.
Don't size up on the waist unless you want a big baggy anti-fit and a mandatory belt.
Also black shrink to fits are a good call. My friend had a great looking pair.

Anonymous Tue May 30 16:56:56 2023 No.17644516

>>17644480
>>17644512
I should add they will strech about an inch in the waist with a few wears so if they start out a tiny bit tight that's good. Some people even size down one on them. Make sure to actually measure your waist or a pair of jeans and don't go by tagged sizes.

>>	TheOriginalZerg Tue May 30 16:59:18 2023 No.17644519 Look Raw Denim Is Pretty Cool But Blue is Best When in Pool

Anonymous Tue May 30 17:10:17 2023 No.17644543

>>17644512
I went to a store to try on a pair of 34s because everyone says to size up and they were fucking enormous. I know most people say size up but there’s no way they would shrink enough to fit. I’m not sure what my actual waist size is.
>>17644516
Do I use a tape measure directly over my belly button or do I measure where my jeans sit? Leaning toward getting 32s which are a bit roomy for me in Levi’s.

Anonymous Tue May 30 17:24:53 2023 No.17644565

>>17644543
>measure where my jeans sit?
Do this
Actually if you can try them on i would just grab a pair and try to go for the raw pair fitting snug but not tight. Basically they will shrink an inch or maybe less in the waist but then they will strech back out by an inch. But it depends on the kind of fit you are looking for and how willing you are to have them be real tight for a few days after you shrink them.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 18:28:00 2023 No.17644682 >>17644565 I’m willing to have them be a bit snug for a couple wears. I just worry about them shrinking more with each wash until I can no longer fit in them at all.

Anonymous Tue May 30 18:36:28 2023 No.17644690

>>17644682
Okay my understanding is that after a few wears the waistband will basically end up the same size as it was when you bought them raw. As long as you actually toss them in the water to shrink them instead of doing some 10 minute quick soak in cold water you will get 90%+ of the shrinkage out right away. Ive never had a pair or raws get smaller on me with subsequent washes beyond maybe a litte leg shrinkage (unless i was getting fatter)

>>	Anonymous Tue May 30 18:37:41 2023 No.17644695 >>17644690 >As long as you actually toss them in the water to shrink them *toss them in the washer to shrink them

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 01:23:23 2023 No.17645194 File: 241 KB, 846x1279, 1685496195303.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Where can i cop jeans that fit like the green jacket guys?

Anonymous Wed May 31 02:14:32 2023 No.17645240
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>>17638717
to celebrate a promotion i decided to get my first pair of fairly expensive jeans. probably not that much for most of the posters here, but it's a big buy for me, and i can't wait to get them in.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:41:49 2023 No.17645272 >>17645240 Momos are always a good choice. What cut did you get?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 02:50:40 2023 No.17645280 >>17645272 i went with the high taper fit. i considered the slim taper as well, but i think it would be too baggy if i chose my normal size and i didn't want to risk them not fitting if i sized down like they recommended.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 03:09:40 2023 No.17645291 >>17645240 Nice Ya know momo uses all cotton from Zimbabwe, apparently its still handpicked, current best cotton you can get in the world outside of some tiny producers here and there.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 03:20:02 2023 No.17645304 >>17645194 Rustler for cheap or vintage 505s if you don't mind hunting on ebay for a bit.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 03:43:54 2023 No.17645325 Why do my Japanese raws and my non-raw Levi’s fit almost the exact same in the waist?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 04:15:09 2023 No.17645347 >>17645325 because they are the same size

Anonymous Wed May 31 08:42:26 2023 No.17645531
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Hard+soft weird guys, levis so high bootcut
Levis 517 c. 1981, dirty fade true guys.

How many of you have true guys? I dig em but i'm still trying to let my 501's wear out before i realy get into fading them. They are a good replacement, though. Solid high rise straight.
I'm normally a tag 31 but went for the 30 true guy and they're a near perfect match in fit for my 501 stf 32×36, if a tad bit more snug which i don't mind. Certainly not too tight. Always check size guides and be ready for any particular garment to vary from a manufacturer's size chart. N&F say +/-.5" so if you receive something that's outside of that range, then it is their error and they should replace them.

Be blessed, and happy fading.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 12:43:41 2023 No.17645751 >>17645291 Egyptian cotton is better because it meets with the Mediterranean Sea which adds salt water and other minerals to the plant. Anyone who talks about American cotton is ignorant.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 15:38:48 2023 No.17645979 new momo's got a little bleed on the cuffs, not a big deal but wondering: best way to remove the dye? or is it just a battle-scar at this point

Anonymous Wed May 31 16:51:57 2023 No.17646091

>>17645751
Egyptian cotton has been dogshit for 15 plus years now, all the good genetics are lost and their current output is complete garbage.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-end-of-egyptian-cotton
>By 2013, the cotton harvest was turning out so poorly that Khedr stopped going to the classing facilities. “I wouldn’t go down to supervise the agents because, really, we’d tell them, ‘The cotton you see in front of you is not Egyptian cotton,’ ” he said. “ ‘It’s nothing at all.’ ”
>Between 2006 and 2016, production of Egyptian cotton fell by seventy per cent. A U.S.D.A. report from March, 2016, blamed “the floundering and ever changing government’s policies,” and also deteriorating seed quality.
Anything that you see for sale today that claims to be made from Egyptian cotton is junk, probably the cheapest Indian cotton on the market.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 16:53:03 2023 No.17646093 >>17645979 You can try spot cleaning with a wet towel, it may or may not work depending on the fabric you are tying to clean.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 16:54:36 2023 No.17646095 >>17646091 it's not the genetics it's the sea water you absolute mongrel, do you know how easy it is to buy new plant genetics? they're called seeds. American cotton is dogshit.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 16:57:51 2023 No.17646099 >>17646095 Sorry friend, it's not the 90s anymore, Egyptian cotton production is extremely low volume and the current output is low quality short staple rough junk. Nobody is growing good quality long staple cotton in Egypt.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 17:00:10 2023 No.17646104 >>17646099 and your evidence for that is...nothing. American cotton is shit, the French get Egypt's second hand scraps and we get the garbage from that. it's the sea water.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 17:03:19 2023 No.17646109 File: 414 KB, 2048x1490, 1685552577855.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17646104 Egyptian cotton is dying. It's glory days are long over.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 17:05:21 2023 No.17646113 >>17646109 nobody cares about area it's quality

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 17:07:38 2023 No.17646115 >>17646113 And the quality is shit because the genetics are severely degraded. You should try actually reading that article i linked, you might learn something.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 17:08:34 2023 No.17646116 >>17646115 i already know its not true because you havent linked any quality american product

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 17:10:22 2023 No.17646119 >>17646116 What the fuck are you talking about you sperg? I was talking about Zimbabwe cotton, you are the only one that has mentioned the US. God you fucking obsessed /int/ posters are so mentally ill.

Anonymous Wed May 31 17:19:14 2023 No.17646122
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>>17646119
I mean if America grows more cotton and better cotton you'd have some American cotton products that aren't garbage but everyone on the planet knows Egyptian cotton is best that's why European fashion houses buy from Egypt not America and as I've explained the Mediterranean does not affect Zimbabwe cotton because of the flow of The Nile making the environment in the delta very different from elsewhere on the planet.

I've helped develop agricultural techniques to make the same cotton here in America but it's very expensive and requires pumping salt water and fish-hydroponic systems that cost lots of money but help people in America get the coveted Cupro, or baby cotton, which is worth a lot more than regular cotton because it's much softer and is only produced when the cotton plant is grown with sea water. If you want real cupro it will cost about $20,000 per square yard. Here is an example of a cupro skirt that probably cost about $100,000 retail.

Did you know 70% of Kim Kardashian's male following comes from Egypt? The reason her and Kanye were able to make billions of dollars through Balenciaga is because they are favored by Egyptians, compared with east coast American brands like Ralph Lauren that have to use shitty American cotton. Balenciaga design is garbage though because people with decent proportions don't wear that shit so they use it for money laundering among jews and 'rappers' which is why LA fashion is garbage despite having access to the best materials.

European fashion>Japanese>American
euros have the best proportions, then japs, then americans
that simple

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 17:39:16 2023 No.17646142 >>17646122 Link literally any Balenciaga piece from this season that advertises being made with Egyptian cotton.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 18:07:49 2023 No.17646190 >>17646122 I read none of this

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 18:36:34 2023 No.17646223 Yuropean here Want to replace my pair of kiabi jean Which brands should I check out for my new wardrobe ? I heard Levi's quality really went down through the years is it true ?

Anonymous Wed May 31 19:21:37 2023 No.17646263

>>17646223
Yeah levis quality is ass these days.
Here is a lists of shops selling naked and famous brand jeans in Europe
https://www.nakedandfamousdenim.com/en/store-locator/#europe
Or if you aren't afraid of importing from overseas shop on
https://www.denimio.com
I don't know of any cheap durable high quality brands of jeans m

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 19:45:25 2023 No.17646291 >>17646122 I thought the advantage to US/AUS cotton was the fact that it was cleaner and required less processing.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 20:09:54 2023 No.17646313 >>17646263 many thanks

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 20:18:09 2023 No.17646322 Anything with interesting cut&sew like pleats or gussets? Or is it all just flat front?

Anonymous Wed May 31 20:44:39 2023 No.17646362

>>17646322
You can find a decent amout of double front style jeans with the big fabric reinforcements on the thigh and knee.
If you dig into the Japanese brands you can find stuff like denim trousers or other vintage inspired designs.
https://www.celluloid1984.com/?pid=169073924
https://www.celluloid1984.com/?pid=157512640
https://misterfreedom.com/products/swabbies-snow-denim
https://misterfreedom.com/products/continental-trousers-nos-bossa
I was looking at some other interesting ones recently but i forget where

Anonymous Wed May 31 22:46:44 2023 No.17646529

>>17646122
I do not know anyone who wears Euro Fag Rodeo Drive brands; only Asian and Arab tourists by that stuff and local tacky Persians.

Local dudes with money are wearing SOCAL based small labels and James Perse type clothing. I had never even heard of Philipp Plein until he was pointed out to me at an LA restaurant.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 31 23:01:03 2023 No.17646552 >>17646529 yeah nobody wears Dior or SLP at all they wear..."SOCAL based small labels and 'type' clothing"

Anonymous Wed May 31 23:23:41 2023 No.17646577

>>17646552
Dior has 1 single mens shirt for sale that advertises being Egyptian cotton, the rest don't specify. Judging by the fact that its a basic its probably old stock fabric.
https://www.dior.com/en_us/fashion/products/433C561A1581_C000-snap-button-shirt-white-cotton-poplin

Anonymous Wed May 31 23:37:10 2023 No.17646594
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>>17646577
Talking about raw denim at this point but if your SOCAL brands were so good you'd name them. I have a pair of John Elliott raws but they're like 1/3 the quality of Dior raws. Amiri had one good season other than that SOCAL brands are for goofy influencers and sports people. Kanye has hinted multiple times that Bernard Arnault, 'second' richest man to Elon Musk, CEO of LVMH, had Virgil Abloh murdered because he ruined the LV brand by walking runway and lying about his height he was like 5'9 not 6'2. LA fashion is challenged by the fact that everyone on the west coast lies about their measurements.

Anonymous Wed May 31 23:48:15 2023 No.17646608

>>17640306
Just an update. I received them just yesterday and they are an incredible cut. They are very well made the front and side snap work very well and they have an excellent rise. As to the fabric it has a very nice texture that for me screams summer and relaxation. I would upload a photo, however, my ip is banned. despite them being my most expensive pair of jeans I am very happy with them. For reference I own N&F and some unbranded jeans and the difference in the denim is very big.

Anonymous Thu Jun 1 00:18:28 2023 No.17646642 [DELETED]

>>17646594
also too hot to dress like nyc or london
i get all my jeans/trousers custom from these guys
https://railcarfinegoods.com
shirts these guy make mine
https://magill-la.com

i am a surfer/bjj/wrestler type guy and and pretty built
euro fag shit will not fit me or anyone i know
mister freedom in west hollywood has a good supply of sugar cane japan clothing

another brand i like and support
https://deviumusa.com

Anonymous Thu Jun 1 00:25:32 2023 No.17646649

>>17646122
Kim is not famous in LA; she hangs out with the same ten people and no one cares about her here. Most Calabasas locals are horrified by her ugly mulatto kids.

I saw her and Kanye at Katsuya in Studio City a few years ago and they had to wait in line bc no one pays attention to them here.

The Fashion Nova guy bought his house in Bel Air for 110 million USD, and I always thought he was part of some money laundering bc I never see anyone wearing his stuff, only of IG.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 00:35:25 2023 No.17646658 >>17646552 You will not see any local Anglo guy wearing that stuff, maybe a greasy Encino Armenian or a Brentwood Persian, maybe a FOB Slav. I get all my jeans/trousers custom made from these guys. https://railcarfinegoods.com

Anonymous Thu Jun 1 00:36:17 2023 No.17646661
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>>17646642
Yeah I lift too. if you can't fit slim-leg jeans why are you even into fashion?
>>17646649
Kim grew up in the Getty center fuck off she's not famous in LA that's how she became famous, living with a bunch of other kids in the Getty Center in the 90's who are all famous now - Joe Rogan, bunch of actors and rappers all started this way before it became the Getty Museum. LA is a shithole and everyone lies about their measurements which is why LA fashion is a joke and this guy himself admits he can't fit into good looking clothes because his disproportionate >>17646642
>>17646658
>Anglo
yeah probably not an Anglo lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 00:56:34 2023 No.17646684 >>17646608 Nice, good pickup anon.

Anonymous Thu Jun 1 03:41:42 2023 No.17646843

Is Naked & Famous still a good brand?
I bought from them like 5+ years ago and liked their jeans. Looking to buy some new jeans and want something that emulates the same style, price, and quality of their jeans back then(assuming they've changed for the worse like most brands do over time)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 03:43:05 2023 No.17646846 >>17643857 Do you not turn your jeans inside out when washing them? They're really faded at the creases

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 05:00:52 2023 No.17646900 Fucking hate designer jeans down to the conceptual level Like, jeans are a fucking worker's garment, they're used for manual labor and shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 08:28:12 2023 No.17647039 >>17646846 I did. I think the lap fades are due to shrinkage and my gaining weight.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 09:28:01 2023 No.17647068 >>17646900 yes, this is so finicky and repulsive like the faggots here talking about SOCALLY.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 10:17:57 2023 No.17647101 File: 60 KB, 550x977, 6917943c11638ae1f8f2b07d507b9834.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17646900 it's called smart casual pleb

Anonymous Thu Jun 1 11:43:32 2023 No.17647156
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>>17646900
I don't know why people think its impossible to wear good looking clothes and do physical labor or exercise lol I've hiked over 400 miles in raw denim that has a smaller than 8" hem because all of that extra material flapping around at the ankles looks dumb and disproportionate and it makes it look like you don't "do work" because you look like a fucking idiot with 10" hems. you know who needs 12" hems? this guy. not you

Anonymous Thu Jun 1 14:35:42 2023 No.17647370

>>17646843
I don't think naked and famous has gotten worse. Their worst quality issues were in the few years after they first started the brand, lots of rivits popping off. But they are still independently owned they aren't part of some soulless conglomerate so they haven't really changed much (except for prices slowly going up, but that's everywhere)
If you don't find the preorder model terrifying you can try brave star selvage, railcar fine goods, or these guys
https://www.kojimagenesxsf.com/store/c3/kojimagenes15oz_premium_selvedgedenim

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 14:47:07 2023 No.17647386 >>17647370 Why is every N&F fit either slim fit or enormous? True Guy seems like the only slightly straight cut.

Anonymous Thu Jun 1 15:24:56 2023 No.17647427

>>17647386
Well they developed all their cuts in like 2010 when they started and that was what was popular. Their whole angle was being a cheaper alternative the Japanese jeans which usually come in a lot of relaxed vintage style cuts.
You can find plenty of clasic 501 cuts in Japanese jeans for less than $200 so look there.
https://www.denimio.com/
Is probably the best place to start, free shipping over $150 and no proxy service shit.
Their desktop website has measurements and if a listing doesn't have fit pics you can usually find them by image searching the model

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 22:29:41 2023 No.17648004 >>17638720 Uniqlo, The Unbranded Brand, and NBDN cause I'm a poorfag

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 22:33:41 2023 No.17648007 >>17648004 Im pretty sure the unbranded brand is owned by naked and famous, but made overseas

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 1 22:59:29 2023 No.17648041 >>17648004 >NBDN How are these? Their prices are great, is the detailing pretty standard outside of the patch or do they do other weird stuff?

Anonymous Fri Jun 2 08:19:55 2023 No.17648564
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>>17638717
Pic of my APC New Standards before I submitted them to the butler program dude to the holes in the wallet pocket.

Didn't wash them wearing them almost every other day for 2 years (they smelled foul) and only washed them because I had fleas. Pic approximately taken at 4 years.

I wear momotaro's now that I got fitted in Japan but damn I don't think anything will fade as well as these did.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 2 15:00:45 2023 No.17648920 >>17648564 >and only washed them because I had fleas Now that's some classic superdenim shit right there

Anonymous Fri Jun 2 17:57:51 2023 No.17649086
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>>17648564
>Didn't wash for 2 years
I do not understand this. If you want high contrast fades, you basically get a point of diminishing after 3 months. If you are refusing to wash your jeans after 3 months especially when wearing them daily, you have fallen for the retardation that is frequently found on reddit and denim forums.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 2 18:14:45 2023 No.17649101 >>17649086 >ironfarts

Anonymous Fri Jun 2 18:38:29 2023 No.17649136

>>17649086
I didn't wash my 3rd pair for 8 months and it got much more drastic fades than the pair I washed after 3 months. The trick is to air dry them all of the time when not wearing them, never had any issues with smell. From my experience the first wash is all that matters with high contrast fades. Once you get the initial 6-12 month of no washing you can wash as much as you want with no diminishing effects.

Anonymous Fri Jun 2 18:45:03 2023 No.17649145

>>17649086
I’d say a 6 mounts to a year rather than three, but I definitely agree that some dudes take that shit way too far. Especially when they’re having blowouts and wondering why their dirty, sweaty, abused pants didn’t last like the internet told them they would.
They’re like boots. They can handle heavy use but you can’t outright abuse them then be surprised when they die early.

Anonymous Fri Jun 2 18:46:34 2023 No.17649147

Has anyone wore the N&F True Guy fit? Looking for a pair of black jeans and I’m deciding between the True Guy and Weird Guy. I worry the WG may be a bit too tapered for my taste, but I’m getting mixed messages on whether the TG is a slim straight or a true straight.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 2 18:56:56 2023 No.17649153 >>17649136 >The trick is to air dry them all of the time when not wearing them, Yup this is the most important factor

Anonymous Fri Jun 2 19:49:54 2023 No.17649208
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>>17648041
They did weird red stitching on my pair, weird twin strings hanging from the back pockets, and the top button is cooper which is different from the other silver ones below it but these are cheap dead stock in my size I found this year from ~2017/18. Yeah so full poorfag

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 2 20:11:49 2023 No.17649228 >>17649208 The chainstich overrun on the back pockets isn't too bad, i don't really get why people do it but i see it somewhat often. Its easy to clip off. Anyway nice pickup, really cool find for the price

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 2 21:44:47 2023 No.17649349 >>17638717 i want to try getting a denim jacket, but feel like i can't pull off denim on denim. what's the secret to not looking stupid?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 2 22:17:11 2023 No.17649396 File: 242 KB, 1440x960, 1685744220425.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17649349 Get a stonewashed denim jacket so you arent wearing two dark denims, or a black denim jacket

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 2 22:23:02 2023 No.17649406 >>17649349 >>17649396 Yeah you need a little contrast. It’s only a Canadian Tuxedo if it’s too matchy

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 2 22:37:14 2023 No.17649420 File: 3.61 MB, 2863x3138, IMG_4278.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17649228 Yeah they were a good find for about £60 when I was on holiday in Nepal. I don't mind the chainstitch overrun but I dislike the red stitching the most

Anonymous Fri Jun 2 22:37:32 2023 No.17649422
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>>17638717
Stop wearing jeans man. You got tricked by LEVI STRAUSS (Jewish) into thinking these are "casual" clothes. Insanely uncomfortable and you don't even realize how ass they feel until you get a nice pair of 100% wool trousers. You can wear casual trousers, but jeans can NEVER be dressed up no matter how many tubby coping faggots deny it! Horrendous thread, horrendous garment of clothing

Anonymous Fri Jun 2 22:44:58 2023 No.17649430

>>17649422
Braindead nazi. You're not cool because you found your grandpas hand me down trousers. Fuck off to /pol/

>>17649153
This, if it's hot and my jeans feel remotely grody, leaving them to hang for a few hours takes care of it. Especially if you can hang them up outside.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 2 22:55:06 2023 No.17649442 >>17649430 Actually I get my trousers from various women who appreciate my fuck and respect it and give me gifts to honor it faggot

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 2 22:56:24 2023 No.17649443 File: 788 KB, 200x225, c709fe36c32715aef249a1aa6275ceba.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17649422

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 2 22:58:10 2023 No.17649445 File: 954 KB, 1600x1224, tiedyejeans.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] tie dye, based or cringe?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 2 22:59:38 2023 No.17649446 >>17649442 Your mom still buys you pants eh? I guess she wants her big boy to move out of the basement some day.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 2 23:00:40 2023 No.17649447 File: 2.21 MB, 780x1600, tiedye2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17649445 personally i really like them when the pattern is nice, but it is really hard to put my finger on what exactly that depends on, so i'm afraid to try it myself

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 2 23:22:47 2023 No.17649479 >>17649445 I prefer acid wash

Anonymous Sat Jun 3 00:13:27 2023 No.17649535
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>>17649349
You don't want to have both your jeans and jacket unworn and fresh. As the other anon said it can help to get a stonewashed jacket, but if you want more vibrant shades of indigo you're going to want to go the raw denim route. In order to make this not look too goofy in the beginning stages of your new jacket, you'll either want to wear a pair of black colored jeans with your indigo jacket, or just not wear jeans for a while and instead wear some chinos

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 00:46:07 2023 No.17649556 >>17649442 Cool, don't care, you're still a piece of shit, neck yourself with your ugly trousers <<3

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 01:29:06 2023 No.17649623 >>17649396 >>17649406 >>17649535 i appreciate the advice guys. almost all my jeans are dark, so i'll look around to get something light or something that will fade to be light.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 03:11:06 2023 No.17649701 >>17643182 >>17640538 BRO why are jeans so expensive. any good jeans for an affordable price like idk 20-50 bucks that's crazy

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 09:22:39 2023 No.17649967 >>17649701 $20? bro that's like 2 grams of weed which is by far the best thing you can get with only $20

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 10:54:08 2023 No.17650024 >>17649701 you can get uniqlo denim for like 50 bucks retail and 25-35 on sale(if you have default size waist) or 15-25(but thats will be return pairs)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 14:13:06 2023 No.17650172 File: 121 KB, 600x800, U regular fit selvedge.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17649701 Just grab a pair of Uniqlo regular fit selvedge or their U regular fit selvedge which seems to use a slightly different fabric which I prefer

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 20:15:48 2023 No.17650622 File: 36 KB, 293x439, OB-FJ660_denim7_HV_20100127150840.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17649623 The 70's unwashed suits were hella effay

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 3 23:39:15 2023 No.17650843 >>17649701 Wrangler rigids

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 01:07:37 2023 No.17650932 File: 1.76 MB, 1378x3261, PXL_20230604_005825440 (2) (2).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17643566 Love the length I might never wash them

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 01:13:16 2023 No.17650944 >>17650932 Stackpower

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 01:14:41 2023 No.17650946 >>17650932 i really like that color. i might go searching for a pair.

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 01:41:31 2023 No.17650976
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>>17650944
Baggin without saggin

>>17650946
I recommend it. The trellis green is slightly lighter but has that cross stitch pattern like the knights. These limited colors are running down. Rip the Verde's

Anonymous Sun Jun 4 01:58:06 2023 No.17650994

>>17649147
At this point I've tried on several True Guys and and settled on one pair that I'm wearing right now. You can see from measurements on the site that true guy doesn't taper as much as weird guy, and is a bit wider overall. I'd say true guy isn't slim but also not wide, it's the perfect middle ground.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 02:38:16 2023 No.17651054 >>17649447 >galaxy pants Fug. I like it but I wouldn't risk a pair of raws for it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 21:27:19 2023 No.17652185 File: 2.54 MB, 2736x3563, 20230604_122737.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17649623 it's no jacket, but i picked it up for $5 today to try the look. it's working better than i thought, the contrast really helps.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 21:41:30 2023 No.17652211 File: 302 KB, 1045x699, fade-of-the-day-levis-501-black-4-years-6-washes-front-back.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Really love how the black/grey levis STFs fade. Anyone know how shrinkage compares on these vs the indigo?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 4 21:45:35 2023 No.17652215 >>17652211 It's hard to say sice they have made so many different batches of them. I would go with the advice of buying in your actually waist size measure some jeans you have don't go by the label. Don't size up unless you want to wear them oversized

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 00:40:25 2023 No.17652490 >>17652211 Nice fades. My experience with 501 stf is they size down 1" in waist and 2" in the inseam.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 00:41:42 2023 No.17652492 >>17652185 Nice cop good fit

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 00:46:47 2023 No.17652507 >>17650994 That’s what it looked like, a good ‘middle straight’. I’ve never tried Weird Guy but I was worried it would be too tapered.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 01:03:30 2023 No.17652555 i love my momotaros so much brehs wish i could wear them everyday.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 01:32:40 2023 No.17652622 >>17652492 felt really lucky finding it. my arms are usually so long that i never get anything when thrifting but the guy who had this before has almost exact same size as me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 04:51:42 2023 No.17652764 >>17652622 You could starch it to restiffen it and induce crease fades. Go heavy inside and back of elbows.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 20:21:14 2023 No.17653815 >>17652215 >>17652490 Thanks anons. I ended up copping the same size as my indigo STFs

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 5 20:29:05 2023 No.17653837 my denimio order got cucked by customs for the first time in years, sent them an edited invoice. Hope it works out lol

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