/btg/ BOOT GENERAL

[Anonymous No.17548629]

/btg/ BOOT GENERAL - MOC TOE TIME EDITION

What do I need to care for my boots?
>Old cotton t shirt (one for cleaning, another for applying conditioners)
>Horsehair brush ($10-15)
>Wooden shoe trees ($10-15)
>Light conditioner like Lexol/Bck4/renovateur
>Heavy conditioner (if you live in terrible snow/rain areas) Sno seal/Obernauf LP
>Don't forget that boots need time to dry properly, rotate them an

How do I deal with x stain?
>mud: allow it to dry then brush off
>salt: water and cloth as soon as possible
>saturated wet: allow the boot to dry for a full day, stuff with newspaper
>scuffs and scratches: buff vigorously with horsehair brush

>Should I buy turdsdays/soloshits/doc shitans?
No they are filled with synthetic materials aimed at instant comfort but will not hold up to actual use.
>b-b-but muh ecelebs on youtube said they're good
no. you will waste your time and money and still have uncomfortable footwear at the end of the day. spend the extra $100 and get something real.

Manufacturer Red Flags
>Luxury
>Sustainable
>Vegan
>Unknown leather source
>Made in Chyna/Mexico/Indonesia

Boot Red Flags
>Dainite
>C*rk/C*lastic
>Zippers
>Non gusseted tongues
>Excessive/unnecessary seams

PREV>>17540516

[Anonymous No.17548633]

Larpers, Schitzo General.

[Anonymous No.17548637]

Do you put shoe trees in your boots right after taking them off or do you let them air out first?

[Anonymous No.17548644]

>>17548637
>shoe trees
HUH?

[Anonymous No.17548656]

>>17548637
immediately after, the cedar helps soak up moisture

[Anonymous No.17548699]

>>17548656
Do you hang your laundry by placing cedar on them to soak up the moisture?

[Anonymous No.17548709]

>>17548699
yeah

[Anonymous No.17548717]

I've only been able to find one pair of shoes that have all the things I'm looking for:
>Composite toe
>Support for high arches
>Slip resistant
>Almost entirely black
>Something I can run in

The only problem is they're not boots. For a $110 sneakers they're not too bad, but I'll probably need them to be boots for job reasons.

[Anonymous No.17548719]

>>17548656
Don't listen to this retard, doing this can retain moisture and cause mold to grow inside your boots

Take them off your feet, let them air out for a couple hours THEN insert your shoe trees. Real simple.

[Anonymous No.17548723]

>>17548719
don't listen to this idiot. if you fail to put in your shoe trees immediately, the moisture will absorb into the leather and can allow mold to start growing. you must think of the cedar as a sponge, it will suck all the moisture out but it must be timely applied. this anon is trying to rot your boots away, don't fall for the b8.

[Anonymous No.17548830]

>>17548717
No such thing as boots you can run in.
That just isn’t what they are for.
Pretty sure there are shoes with composite toes.

[Anonymous No.17548853]

>>17548719
>>17548723
dont listen to these niggas. white people dont be seasoning they boots

[Anonymous No.17548858]

>>17548637
>put shoe trees in your boots right after taking them off
this
then go rinse them upside down in cold water
then polish with brush while wet - that gives superb shine

[Anonymous No.17548862]

>>17548858
>in cold water
*under cold tap water of course, don't drown them

[Anonymous No.17549079]

>>17548637
i maybe let them air out for 10-20 minutes first.

[Anonymous No.17549174]

Perhaps someone here can help. I'm looking for leather belts. Have to be thick (40mm), good quality and have clip on buttons so I can switch buckles. Only stuff I can find are cheap belts from India or China. Any brands or sites I should look for?

[Anonymous No.17549195]

>>17548637
show trees are a fucking bro science meme

just use news paper if you really want, at least that will mold and fill the shape of your shoe

shoe tree don’t do shit

[Anonymous No.17549205]

>>17549195
>shoe tree don’t do shit
In my experience, they can prevent and even reduce excessive creasing

[Anonymous No.17549217]

>>17549205
not unless you got them formed to the exact shape of your shoe

[Anonymous No.17549299]

/btg/, what's a good brand for steel toe boots?

[Anonymous No.17549389]

>>17549299
Getta grip

[Anonymous No.17549495]

Oh wow, another awesome Thursday Boots™ video from Stridewise, everyone's favorite "bootfluencer"/Thursday bankrolled shill
Imagine my shock when Stridewise does ANOTHER awesome video talking about how amazing and special and awesome Thursday boots are
Surely these are his own opinions and he's telling the truth when he talks about how much more he likes his Thursday boots than his Vibergs, Whites, Nicks and other brands

[Anonymous No.17549516]

No clue who the lad is, only bootfluencer i watched before is the faggot cutting them in half because that's the only interesting videos he makes.

[Anonymous No.17549520]

>>17549299
White’s, and Franks

[Anonymous No.17549524]

>>17549516
>watches Rose Anvil unironically
he's one of the worst of the worst because his videos are just commercials for whoever paid him that day. he'll cut open an absolute piece of dogshit boot but if he was paid enough he'll say it's great and they cut corners to lower the price to bring you more value and savings, etc.
If the brand didn't pay him, he'll say the materials are them cutting corners and overcharging and ripping you off, etc.
He's been a disaster for the boot world

[Anonymous No.17549544]

>>17549174
>clip on buttons
what?

[Anonymous No.17549546]

>>17549495
buy thursdays mmkay

[Anonymous No.17549551]

>>17549217
Not gonna argue back and forth with this. I know what I've seen firsthand.

[Anonymous No.17549554]

>>17549544
Not sure what's the word. Cleats? Pushdown buttons? Instead of having the buckle secured by sewing the belt around it, you have this buttons that can be opened to replace the buckle.

[Anonymous No.17549567]

>>17549554
chicago screws is the term. most makers on etsy can fulfill your needs

[Anonymous No.17549608]

>>17549524
I don't give a fuck about what he says, i can look at how its built myself.

[Anonymous No.17549652]

>>17549608
>i can look at how its built myself
you'd that would be enough but judging by the comments on his videos most viewers only go off of what they are told, not what they see

[Anonymous No.17549656]

>>17549652
most people are cattle yes

[Anonymous No.17549698]

planning on getting something like this, either brand or tailored. may get them with a bit of a heel for horse riding. any opinions?

[Anonymous No.17549721]

>>17549698
there aren't a lot of handsewn mocs with heels

[Anonymous No.17549728]

>>17548633

[Anonymous No.17549731]

>>17549728
>nonwhites seething about Whites
many such cases

[Anonymous No.17549733]

I was going to place an order with Nicks. What happened to them?

[Anonymous No.17549736]

>>17549551
cause you’re wrong, enjoy your jos a bank shoe trees that don’t do shite

[Anonymous No.17549745]

>>17549733
Same people who complain about nicks complain about JK, Franks is basically the only one that doesn’t get shit on.

[Anonymous No.17549747]

[Anonymous No.17549838]

>>17549721
i know, that why i might get them custom made

[Anonymous No.17549844]

>>17549698
Diablo 2 lookinass boots. Waterwalk headass boots.

[Anonymous No.17549867]

I am searching for an alternative to the Prada combat boots with the nylon sides. Price range up to 500 eur is okay. Any recommendations?

[Anonymous No.17549879]

>>17549867
nylon is just not a good material for boots plus mixing materials is bad

[Anonymous No.17549893]

>>17549879
I am also open for full leather alternatives if they retain the overall style. the nylon is not a must have.

[Anonymous No.17549897]

>>17549893
nigs tactical for that monosole look

[Anonymous No.17549908]

>>17548699
Classically you sun it, which does the anti-fungal work. You can't sun the inside of your boots.

[Anonymous No.17549909]

>>17549897
nice find, thanks

[Anonymous No.17549995]

>>17548637
Straight away if dry. A few hours if wet.

[Anonymous No.17549997]

>>17549995
>triple welt

[Anonymous No.17550007]

>>17549995
lame af, if it's not quad it's not worth it.

[Anonymous No.17550010]

Kek. Stick to your Americana LARP shit then.

[Anonymous No.17550034]

desperately want 3x welt freds

[Anonymous No.17550100]

>>17549195
Anyone who has spent time on fashion forums online can tell a shoe that has not seen shoe trees immediately. Makes a big difference over months or years.

[Anonymous No.17550103]

>>17549608
A leatherboard heel counter vs a full leather heel counter is going to be completely indistinguishable to your eye in a compressed video on Youtube. You aren't gaining anything through the visuals, really.

[Anonymous No.17550108]

>>17550103
you can feel it though

[Anonymous No.17550115]

>>17550108
I'm not saying they are indistinguishable on your foot. Far from it. I'm saying you can't watch RoseAnvil and deduce how good a boot is by seeing it cut apart in a compressed video.

[Anonymous No.17550122]

>>17550115
>you can't watch RoseAnvil and deduce how good a boot is by seeing it cut apart
you can see if its a cardboard, celastic or leather counter which likely isnt disclosed by the maker and use that to judge
the cut in half videos are good if ytou know what makes a good shoe

[Anonymous No.17550127]

>>17550122
I feel like you're not getting what I'm saying. Unless you are cutting the boot in half yourself you don't know what it's made out of. A compressed Youtube video does not have the fidelity required for you to tell what every material is by seeing it. You are still relying on what the host is saying because you can't actually tell.

[Anonymous No.17550135]

>>17550127
celastic and cardboard look pretty different than a slab of leather, m8
https://youtu.be/9_bQcHlV7UM
https://youtu.be/c9hVqX-0X8c

[Anonymous No.17550136]

>>17550135
Celastic and cardboard are not going to be an issue past a certain price point. Most of the time you are concerned about leatherboard vs full leather, which you will not be able to tell in a video.

[Anonymous No.17550137]

>>17550136
>Most of the time you are concerned about leatherboard vs full leather
just say alden, lmao

[Anonymous No.17550142]

>>17550136
here we go with the goalpost moving

[Anonymous No.17550246]

WHY DO THEY USE VEGAN LEATHER

[Anonymous No.17550253]

>>17550246
who? redflag

[Anonymous No.17550275]

andrew driftwood kudu plain toe pls

[Anonymous No.17550301]

>>17549728
i'm pretty sure that was my post

[Anonymous No.17550304]

>>17549745
We complain about Nicks because they were started by a former Whites employee who literally took all their techniques, designs and everything he learned and started a rival bootmaker down the street in the same town
It's an incredibly douchey piece of shit move and we don't support that kind of behavior so we are team Whites through and through

[Anonymous No.17550309]

>>17550275
fuck him for taking so long and then still not having enough supply
so glad i dropped that brand 6 months ago

[Anonymous No.17550317]

>>17550309
>still not having enough supply
desu he has ample but only in Spanish leathers
its obvious were in a rebuilding phase where there's 2 lasts, some with wide sizes etc.

[Anonymous No.17550320]

>>17550304
Franks is the same thing as that though, just with Nicks.

[Anonymous No.17550328]

[Anonymous No.17550375]

who has the best toe boots

[Anonymous No.17550516]

>>17550304
>they were started by a former Whites employee who literally took all their techniques, designs and everything he learned and started a rival bootmaker down the street in the same town
Based

[Anonymous No.17550581]

>>17550375
Our guy Coloa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goUVlKdMCyI

[Anonymous No.17550746]

>>17550320
In this case I support Franks because what's bad for Nick's is good

[Anonymous No.17550838]

effay?

[Anonymous No.17550842]

>>17550838
no

[Anonymous No.17550856]

>>17549174
>Perhaps someone here can help.
Etsy, handmade, here this will do nicely
https://www.etsy.com/listing/251338392/hermann-oak-heavy-duty-1125-leather-belt?
Herman oak makes some real damn nice harness leather, Chicago screws so you can unscrew and change the belt buckle.
A few others to pick from
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1011666709/richard-mason-11-13-oz-full-grain?
https://www.etsy.com/listing/238890571/1-12-hermann-oak-harness-leather-belt?
https://www.etsy.com/listing/251343772/hermann-oak-heavy-duty-15-leather-belt?
They are allade with essentially the same leather so pick based on details, finishing quality, customization options etc
I have a bridal leather belt that's "only" 8oz and it's held up beautifully for the last decade.

[Anonymous No.17550862]

>>17550010
I bought some of the made overseas grensons, 100% fashion boots, no quality at all. Sent them back immediately

[Anonymous No.17550980]

>>17550862
They have that written all over them, so you're a bit of a retard anon.

[Anonymous No.17551069]

>>17549174
Tanner Bates.

>>17550856

Oak barkek leather belts are great.

[Anonymous No.17551152]

Anyone have experience with Horween hatchgrain? Is the shell hatch worth the premium over the normal cowhide hatch?

[Anonymous No.17551160]

@anon with bonafe boots on the 363 Mod. Last
How is the fit, what sizes do you take in other boots and do you recommend it over all? I assume the order was places through mehra?

[Anonymous No.17551167]

>>17551160
Mate I just got home from work and saw this post being 2 minutes old, what are the odds?

I got mine from Skoak

My feet are 28.2cm and the right size for me on 363mod is UK10.5
I have wide feet, and the last is fairly wide by default.
High instep, not really any arch support, heel is not wide.

Compared to Viberg 2030 on "E" width (which is supposed to be wide but isn't) they are wider.
Compared to Alden Trubalance on "E" width, they are a bit narrower.

My best fitting boots are Alden Trubalance on US11 if that helps.

[Anonymous No.17551173]

>>17551167
thanks, so it sounds like UK TTS should work best for me. Gotta decide between 3824 and 4076 now, maybe both because im a retard.

[Anonymous No.17551175]

>>17551173
these look super gay

[Anonymous No.17551182]

>>17551173
If you are in the US you can order from Lorenzo at Solegarb he has exclusivity on the "balway" design which is a copy of Edward Green's Galway

From other retailers you can only get pic related, the field boot with a straight line for the shaft.

Anyway I would advise against storm welts and norvegese stitching because Bonafe makes the welt fucking huge when you do that, stick to normal 270 welts and you'll still get the sick fudging on it.

For mine I did Ridgeway sole (it's great) and an integrated pull tab in the back so it's part of the leather counter instead of a fabric pull tab. Very sleek.

[Anonymous No.17551186]

>>17551182
I've got galways so no need to get a EB copy. More interested in the model you have. And yea i wasn't gonna go for the norvegese stitching with 4076 the aim is to make a copy of the G&G Urban Commando for half the price,

[Anonymous No.17551187]

>>17549731
Enough larping spic, we know your skin color.

[Anonymous No.17551196]

>>17550980
Most grenson boots are made in India, only a very small number are made in England mostly the triple welts and a handful of other ones

[Anonymous No.17551198]

>>17550304
>My shit is different your from shit
>Literally just all shit
The state of PNWestoid.

[Anonymous No.17551313]

[Anonymous No.17551356]

>>17551152
If it's the same as their faux Russia Reindeer grain (pictured above) it's ok. Supple and durable and nice finish but the colour fastness isn't very good. I have it in black so just use cream but the brown might be a bit shit. Never had shell.

[Anonymous No.17551366]

>>17551356
afaik Horween hatchgrain is CXL embossed with the russian reindeer-like grain. While shell hatch is just shell embossed with the same pattern. A bit worried about the possible creasing on CXL ruining the look.

[Anonymous No.17551369]

>>17551366
embossing in general just don't look great

[Anonymous No.17551379]

>>17551369
i think its pure sex on NSTs

[Anonymous No.17551382]

[Anonymous No.17551385]

>>17551366
It's definitely not cxl mate. Im pretty sure it's this

https://www.thetanneryrow.com/all-leather/horween-pioneer-reindeer

Embossed leather, scotch grain, zug etc creases really well. My boots in the Horween reindeer/hatch have creased a bit more than my grain boots but not by much. One has ugly grain break on it but that's a cow leather thing

[Anonymous No.17551386]

>>17549524
All his takes lately have been good, imo.

[Anonymous No.17551428]

>>17551382
This is why I stick to suede now, except for my most formal shoes.
I just can't stand creases.

I find it a non issue also on my brown CXL boots, I think it's because CXL isn't shiny the creases don't show, also honestly it's more like fat rolls than creases.

I know that the picture isn't a crease, I have cordovan boots. Whatever it's called, you can clearly see where the shoe bends.

[Anonymous No.17551615]

I would appreciate your help with some sizing guys. Does anyone have experience with John Lofgren's 120 last? I want to get pic related, but I'm not sure what to size. Apparently the last last has changed so sizing is different from previous donkey puncher releases. I'm a 10 EE (right on the edge) on the brannock. Among my current boots I have gotten 9EE on Truman's 79 last, 9E on White's 55 last and 9E on Grant Stone's Leo last. 9E is a perfect fit for me on the 55 last, it's the best I've ever felt for a boot. All this in mind, you think it would be safe to get a size 9 for Donkey Punchers or should I consider 9.5?

[Anonymous No.17551618]

>>17549733
I played an order April 17th of last year with Nicks. 35 weeks later I emailed them. They were waiting on a shipment of buckles. Finally got them they were 10inch instead of the 8 inch I requested. Returned them and 2 months later I’m waiting for them to get more leather in. My patience is being testedRYN2a8.

[Anonymous No.17551623]

>>17551618
fucking hell

[Anonymous No.17551625]

>>17551386
I usually enjoy his videos but that last one about his PNW favorite boot was the most unapologetic shilling I've seen in a long time.

[Anonymous No.17551637]

>>17548699
If you don't dry clean every day, then yeah.

[Anonymous No.17551812]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0yxUi3lso4

sexo

[Anonymous No.17551845]

>scratched my RMs on the first wear after polishing again
life is pain

[Anonymous No.17551890]

What's a good brand for cowboy boots? I looked at Justin, Ariat, and Tony Lama, but I didn't see anything I liked. Lucchese has better styles, but I'd rather not spend a grand on a pair of boots.

[Anonymous No.17551896]

>>17551845
how did you scratch suede? more importantly how did you polish them

[Anonymous No.17551904]

can someone ID these for me pls

[Anonymous No.17552080]

>>17551904
95% sure those are some fairly well worn/broken-in moc toe Thorogoods. the general construction+stitching+white lining at the top of the ankle are all pretty spot on.

[Anonymous No.17552082]

>>17551890
Chisos

[Anonymous No.17552128]

>>17551896
Oh I've got leather craftsman(men?), that was just a random screencap I took

[Anonymous No.17552141]

[Anonymous No.17552162]

>>17551625
Yeah but if he actually is a fan of them, why's that bad? If a company legit makes good boots that he personally enjoys the most and thinks are the best, then what's wrong admitting that?

[Anonymous No.17552205]

>>17552162
It's not that. In the video he praises stuff that he heavily critiziced on otger booths and goes through some mental gymnastics to justify it. He also preentively defends against comments that his praise is due to the video being a paid collab. But the thing that caught my eye the most is that's there's a sort of insincere and forced tone in his voice and body language. The same he uses when he talks about the sponsor of the day but it's absent when he talk about boots in the other video. Was like watching a full length sponsor video.
You have to work on your acting skills, Weston ;)

[Anonymous No.17552601]

I got these Redwing 8833 moc toes coming in the mail. I now got 2 black ones i use for work, a brown one with commando soles, a red one, a grey roughout, and the 8 inch one. I just like how they look.

[Anonymous No.17552674]

>>17552601
>a grey roughout
pic?

[Anonymous No.17552684]

>>17552601
rare colorway

[Anonymous No.17552687]

>>17552674
8863 slate muleskinner. they look like sneakers. i actually wear them with shorts and i think i get away with it.

[Anonymous No.17552693]

>>17552205
Oh, well I totally missed that when I watched the video, it's not like I examine his body language with great detail. The company still seems good and they seem to make fine boots, from what I saw from the video. idk

[Anonymous No.17552713]

Getting an MTO Carmina brown CXL boot would have cost me as much as I got my Vibergs on sale
Ignore the last the 3D tool doesn't change shape when you change lasts

I kinda regret it though the styling on the Vibergs is definitely different than anything you can get with Carmina, even if the leather is the same

[Anonymous No.17552722]

>>17552693
>it's not like I examine his body language with great detail.
the entire think felt like a blatant shill video. it was like those early morning product pitch shows. I'm surprised he didnt give you a 1-800 number to call

[Anonymous No.17552730]

>>17552713
>green

[Anonymous No.17552734]

>>17552730
All my shoes have boring natural veg tan lining, why not change it once?
No one's ever gonna see it anyway

[Anonymous No.17552736]

>>17552713
bro the MTO event is only a few weeks away at most

[Anonymous No.17552737]

>>17552736
Nah I'm not ordering anytime soon, I won't start thinking about getting new boots until September at the earliest.

Gotta sell the Vibergs first, love the look but they're just uncomf

[Anonymous No.17552745]

>>17552601
Meanwhile I own zero moctoes. But the more I see them, the more they grow on me.

[Anonymous No.17552750]

>>17552737
If you're gonna go for a 'SB' like boot from Carmina you should go for 80488 on Oscar.
Special requests:
Make into plain toe, no split toe
Change Speed hooks to eyelets (can also add more eyelets on this style prob)
No pull tab.

[Anonymous No.17552759]

>>17552750
80179 and applying the heel counter from 80488 would work too for a cap toe.

[Anonymous No.17552822]

>>17552750
https://carminacustom.com/3lRxEvV
Love me speedhooks

[Anonymous No.17552999]

What's worst than a c*bbler?

a w*man c*bbler

[Anonymous No.17553015]

>>17552999
I'd give this 6 the D.

[Anonymous No.17553018]

>>17553015
fucking feetlet EE here.

[Anonymous No.17553024]

>>17553018
A what?

[Anonymous No.17553188]

Any reccs on what suit color I should go with for chestnut boots? I'm leaning more towards grey but I'm not sure if grey works with chestnut nor what shade of grey.

[Anonymous No.17553225]

>>17553188
charcoal, navy, burgundy

[Anonymous No.17553227]

>>17553225
>burgundy
i've yet to see someone not of puerto rican descent wear a red suit

[Anonymous No.17553229]

>>17553227

[Anonymous No.17553331]

now that iron rangers are objectively dogshit what's the new r*ddit go to leather boot for under $500

[Anonymous No.17553333]

>>17553331
Grant Stone

[Anonymous No.17553335]

>>17553331
Thursday's.

[Anonymous No.17553338]

>>17553335
this ain't no color 8

[Anonymous No.17553339]

>>17553338
They're not exactly know for color consistency.

[Anonymous No.17553345]

this is normal.

[Anonymous No.17553348]

>>17553345
How about this?

[Anonymous No.17553350]

>market yourself as being the same as the $500 boots at a 'real pricepoint'
>Nooo.. actually you shouldn't expect us to not use mystery leather from the buttcrack on the tongue

[Anonymous No.17553351]

>>17553345
>they're brand new
LMAO

[Anonymous No.17553353]

all of their leathers look so dry

[Anonymous No.17553354]

>can only wear them 20 times

[Anonymous No.17553355]

>20 Wears and this Happens. Support won’t help. 3 pairs in and Thursday lost my business.
could have gotten a C&J or 2 Tricker's at the outlet by now instead.

[Anonymous No.17553359]

been a while since i've been on their reddit page, still as hilarious as ever

[Anonymous No.17553362]

impressive clicking

[Anonymous No.17553364]

I love Thursday's just for how shitty they are.

[Anonymous No.17553367]

[Anonymous No.17553369]

>>17553333
witnessed

[Anonymous No.17553371]

>people still buy these clown shoes
Do they not do any research? They're well documented for being terrible.

[Anonymous No.17553382]

its the last that kills me, if you're gonna buy shit at least let it be Meermin.
If you're a bit patient you can get Tricker's at the outlet for $250

[Anonymous No.17553386]

>>17553382
the wingtip last is even worse

[Anonymous No.17553387]

>>17553382
Those socks are as Reddit as you can get.

[Anonymous No.17553391]

>>17553386
oh no no no HAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.17553393]

[Anonymous No.17553400]

I guess even turdsday customers have a few braincells left to not buy that thing, can't find many more pics.

[Anonymous No.17553422]

>>17553391
literally men's wearhouse tier

[Anonymous No.17553490]

>>17549195
Take a look at this collection
https://youtu.be/7gptlJSRwKo

[Anonymous No.17553546]

you will buy canvas boots

[Anonymous No.17553547]

>>17553546

[Anonymous No.17553602]

Any reccomended winter boots for the great lakes area?
Really like the look of redwings sawmills, but can't find them anywhere. Previously have owned Timberland redwood falls and those were pretty solid

[Anonymous No.17553615]

Why is he shilling so hard against Wesco all of a sudden?

[Anonymous No.17553616]

>>17553602
>redwings sawmills
ANOTHER line RW created and abandoned

>>17553615
the check bounced

[Anonymous No.17553620]

>>17553615
just mad because his personal boots were fucked. to be fair having a nail sticking up through your sole is pretty inexcusable.

[Anonymous No.17553625]

>>17553615
>The other PNW boots he received all had leather counters
>Wesco had the c*lastic counters
make of this what you will

[Anonymous No.17553637]

>>17553625
celastic heel counters are not acceptable, at any price point really, but for Wesco that's double pathetic.

[Anonymous No.17553702]

[Anonymous No.17553709]

>>17549995
>>17550010
whats the appeal of brogues?!?!

[Anonymous No.17553735]

>>17550581
that was a pleasant surprise

[Anonymous No.17553744]

>>17553709
they are rugged and sexy

[Anonymous No.17553761]

>>17548629
kommandostore paramemes update
boots are gonna be late. ivan said production will start next month and will probably ship in september. but he also said that they have managed to workout production for wide sized boots, something that did not previously exist for feldschuh, and you've got 2 weeks to update your sizing.
for me, as a widefooted ogre, i am over the moon to hear that.

[Anonymous No.17553852]

>>17553382

Trickers commit half the OP red flags kek.

[Anonymous No.17553898]

>>17553761
How wide are your feet? Paramemes run quite roomy by default. What's your size?

[Anonymous No.17553925]

>>17553852
>Taking retard OP’s opinion serious

Tsch

[Anonymous No.17553926]

>>17553898
my feet are fucked. they are both flat and wide, and large even beside that.
left foot is probably about a size 13.5-14 (US), normal E width. not great, but if they were both this size, it would be workable. right foot is much worse. at least a half size bigger, and wider too, the arch is totally collapsed there.

[Anonymous No.17553938]

>>17553926
Lenght in mm?

[Anonymous No.17553949]

>>17553938
if i'm reading my tape measure correctly then 312 mm (L) and 315 mm (R)

[Anonymous No.17553972]

>>17552999
The first time I saw a cobbler throw my boot haphazardly in a pile where it would eventually get crushed by other boots and shoes, it enraged me. Like nigga just place them nicely

[Anonymous No.17554022]

>>17553949
My feet are 270mm (L) and 275mm (R) I don't know my exact width but acvording to the brannock I'm between a D and EE. My paramemes are a 43EU which is about a 9.5US I beleive and I wear a 10US on Nike and a 9 US on Red Wing Beckmans. Got a pair of Iron Rangers in 9.5 US which I wear with a thin leather insole.
I wear the paramemes with a foam thicker insole and they're still roomy in the toebox.
I can't tell you exactly which size you should get, but perhaps this info might help you.

[Anonymous No.17554045]

Cop or not?

[Anonymous No.17554046]

>>17553761
>longer lead times than bonafe for paramemes

[Anonymous No.17554047]

>>17554045

[Anonymous No.17554048]

>>17554047
SER, BITCH, DON'T POST THIS OK? BUY THE BLKBRD BEST SHOE BEST VALUE HAND WELT JLP QUALITY

[Anonymous No.17554078]

>>17554047
>>17554045
>made from the finest Indians
Is it cheap? I don't like wingtips or medallions

>>17554046
Bonafe says 4 months but I got mine in 2

[Anonymous No.17554089]

grant stone needs to make a country boot

[Anonymous No.17554102]

>>17554045
>dainite
>wingtip
>suede
Three things I don't like in boots (suede might have exceptions). What's the price

[Anonymous No.17554106]

>>17554078
45£

[Anonymous No.17554117]

I'd say cop at 45.

[Anonymous No.17554192]

>>17553852
stop falling for schizo shit like the red flags in OP

[Anonymous No.17554193]

>>17553761
>kommandostore
>he's buying fake paramemes

LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.17554199]

>>17553761
>>17553898
>>17553926
>>17553938
>>17553949
>>17554022
>>17554046
>>17554193
Just buy Steinkogler. They are the actual manufacturer, and they sell them for $160 on survival-shop.at

[Anonymous No.17554249]

>>17554199
No international shipping

[Anonymous No.17554259]

>>17554199
WTF, they're 215€ now? I already have paramemes. They're nice boots but not 215€ nice.

[Anonymous No.17554273]

What do you think of Courtney boots? I want to get my safari on.
https://www.westleyrichards.com/courteney-warrior-boot

[Anonymous No.17554281]

>>17554273
>What do you think of Courtney boots?
What do you think we think of Courtney boots?

[Anonymous No.17554288]

>>17554281
they're gay prolly
just got some of these. pretty sweet.

[Anonymous No.17554414]

>>17554259
>I already have paramemes

Fake ones or real ones? Because judging by your reaction you have fake ones.

[Anonymous No.17554429]

>>17553925
>>17554192
I know they're stupid. I like my Trickers with celastic toe puffs, dainite soles and non bellows tongue.

[Anonymous No.17554432]

>>17554414
Do you own paramemes?

[Anonymous No.17554437]

well well well tranny heel nigs

[Anonymous No.17554445]

>>17554249
>>17554259
>>17554414
>>17554432
Just found them for 45 euro on jogex. All of you faggots are welcome.

https://www.jotex.at/product_info.php?cPath=41_56&products_id=179028&osCsid=2119c7956c76acc2b5744e3a5d11e0c1

[Anonymous No.17554447]

>>17554437
The difference with Nicks is that they don’t actually use different heel height lasts, instead they simply pitch the shoe forward. It’s bound to crush the toes, and fuck your back turning you into one of those MIB worm aliens with lumbar lordosis.

[Anonymous No.17554451]

>>17554429
the toe puff in both of my tricker's pairs are so soft i thought its unstructured at first but maybe its actually leather - not that it matters in the toe, as long leather is used in the heel stiffener. They also both have gusseted tongues.

[Anonymous No.17554552]

>>17554437
Actual White’s 55 last.

[Anonymous No.17554553]

>>17554552
Hand sewn version of their 55 last, what is the point of lying about the last for no rucking reason?

[Anonymous No.17554642]

>>17554451
Trickers uses celastic toe puff and leatherboard heel counter, which is standard for their price point (MiUK).

[Anonymous No.17554650]

>>17554199
based steinkogler shill at it again
they literally do not make them in my size

[Anonymous No.17554655]

>>17553761
>reproduction paramemes

for what purpose? paramemes were memes because they were dirt cheap at surplus stores.

[Anonymous No.17554678]

>>17550304
so is it just principle then? The quality is just as good?

[Anonymous No.17554708]

>>17554678
> The quality is just as good?
no

[Anonymous No.17554715]

>>17550304
so then why don't you bitch about Frank's?
he literally took half of Nick's workers with him.

[Anonymous No.17554721]

>>17554715
based, all my support goes to Frank's

[Anonymous No.17554884]

>>17554655
The surpluss dried out but people still want them. Steinkoglers were around 160-175€ a few months ago. Steinadlers can be found for around 130-160 new.

[Anonymous No.17554990]

>>17554655
>there's a demand on the market
>people fall for the meme
>guy strikes it rich selling memes to retards

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[Anonymous No.17555106]

>>17548637
i stopped using shoe trees ages ago. who cares?
they're not some magic thing that's going to make your shoes last 10 more years. they don't matter
just another way to ink 30 more bucks out of suckers

[Anonymous No.17555338]

>>17549698
still dead set on getting a pair some fringed indian boots. will hit a leather worker and a shoe maker this week

[Anonymous No.17555344]

Should I post my boots?

[Anonymous No.17555370]

>>17555344
go ahead anon, its just the two of us speaking into the nothingness.

[Anonymous No.17555416]

>>17551196
Grenson was a shitshow for over 10 years. They seem to have gotten their act together relatively recently though I don't like their attempt to be all "hip" with their "hello fellow kids" type marketing and rebranding. Maybe it'll work for them? They gotta do what they must to survive I guess.

Grenson One are made under the English sun.
Grenson number twos are literally going number two's made by poo in loo's.

I've avoided even looking at grenson for about 15 years as they were as mentioned a shitshow.
However they have some weird archive collection models (G:One) that interest me because they might just fit my fucking feet.

>Shoe No.1 is an Edwardian mens Toe-cap boot from around 1912. It is made from a leather called "Glace Kid" which is a soft, high shine leather that was used extensively on high grade shoes at this time. We have recreated the leather, the last and details such as the elaborate nailing in the heel. This item is Goodyear Welted.
High shine? aka plasticized bookbinder shit or something else?

>Shoe No.2 is a classic mens Toe-cap Oxford, however it was first introduced in 1939 during a period when Grenson felt the future was shoes that were "good for your feet" or Orthopedic. You can see from the shape of the last how they were the perfect shape for your foot and would therefore be healthy. They call these shoes "Joy Step" and we have recreated both the last and the original logos. This item is Goodyear Welted.
They make it seem like comfy shoes is a antiquated and quaint notion.

Here's a fun note ordering from them:
>All taxes & duties paid by Grenson in advance on all international orders.
>Pay no extra charges on delivery.
Fucking lmao
I very much doubt they'd ship to my current address where shoes get a 100% customs tariff and an extra 40 odd % for being a leather item.
I don't even want to try it, i'd feel bad taking advantage of a retard that puts such a clause on buying stuff from their store.

[Anonymous No.17555766]

>>17551167
>not really any arch support
did you ask for the extra arch support? They will extend the leather heel stiffener all the way to the arch, takes a while to break in but since its leather it will shape your foot and it does work very nicely.

[Anonymous No.17555799]

Anyone know if C.F. Stead Waxy Commander leather used by Viberg among others is the same leather as the waxed rough-out used by Crockett and Jones?

[Anonymous No.17555800]

>>17555799
I guess the leather is actually called "Rough-out suede" by C&J.

[Anonymous No.17555831]

>>17555799
maybe, ask them directly. From what i've seen it looks similar but not quite.

[Anonymous No.17555874]

>>17551615
John Lofgren got back to me, recommended 9.5 on them. Pretty excited since I've never bought such an expensive pair of boots before.

[Anonymous No.17555919]

Carmina's Styleforum promotion is now live
https://www.carminashoemaker.com/mto-shoes

They have black hatchgrain shell unique to this order, but you can do whatever cordovan color you want. They said you can also ask them to change the sole or speedhooks and other minor things.

Price is very good for Horween shell boots, 975€ including trees is basically as good as it gets.

Will I order them? I don't think so. Shell is just too shiny for casual wear. Maybe hatch grain shell is better but I've never seen black hatch grain so it'll be a gamble.

[Anonymous No.17555920]

>>17555919
Here's a real life photo of hatch grain Horween shell (not black)

[Anonymous No.17555921]

>>17555920
>>17555919
And one of bourbon hatch shell

It's not super reflective like smooth shell but still quite shiny

[Anonymous No.17555924]

can someone spoon feed me? im looking for boot brands in the $200-300 range. i dont need specific models, just some brand names for me to google.

[Anonymous No.17555925]

>>17555920
I am so mad that they used 80478 instead of 80488 for the NST, i would have jumped on these in black shell hatchgrain ASAP

[Anonymous No.17555928]

>>17555924
Are you American?
Grant Stone is the good kind of made in China
Meermin is the less good kind of made in China
Thursday is the bad kind of made in China

[Anonymous No.17555929]

such a waste, its so damn boring compared to >>17555920

[Anonymous No.17555931]

I actually also have some hatchgrain NSTs in the works from Bonafe so whatever. I'm gonna seethe anyway because the value is really good here for something rare like black hatch shell.

[Anonymous No.17555933]

thanks for reading my blogposts.

[Anonymous No.17555934]

>>17555929
I know why they selected this model, it's because people have some kind of obsession with long uninterrupted panels on shell, it makes them think it requires some kind of master craftsman to achieve

In truth Carmina lasting is done by machines, not by hand. They used to offer a wholecut boot in shell and they'd ruin 2 boots to make 1.

If you want a master craftsman tier shoe get a seamless wholecut oxford from Bonafe or, better yet, a seamless wholecut boot from Meccariello.

[Anonymous No.17555941]

>his shoes don't have dickveins!

[Anonymous No.17555944]

>>17555934
Yea i really don't get it, hatch shell is quite casual imo and a NST is not really dressy either. So why pick a model that's just so plain and boring?
The other one i might consider still, but i don't dig it that much.

[Anonymous No.17555961]

Another photo of hatch grain shell

This time from Bonafe in "bronze" color
I don't think anyone else has this color

[Anonymous No.17555963]

And another one, a Bonafe NST

You can see that even though it's not super reflective like normal shell it still has that glow on it
Anyway shell is impossible to photograph in my experience, I have never taken a photo of my shell boots that looks right

[Anonymous No.17555967]

>>17555963
>>17551382
its still very much like normal shell imo

[Anonymous No.17555975]

>>17555967
the hatch grain just disrupts the reflections

[Anonymous No.17555977]

>>17555975
wild deerskin tan hatch grain, also bonafe.

[Anonymous No.17555981]

>>17555967
I think this photo >>17551382 is of a new pair of shell boots

When I first got mine, they had these white lines highlighting the rolls, it looked awful.
Then I heard that's just the fat coming out of the shell where it creases and sure enough after a bit of brushing and a few wears it stopped happening

It still rolls in weird ways that makes it draw attention to itself, just the fact that it behaves differently from other types of leather is enough

[Anonymous No.17556126]

>>17550581
why do ray niggers even try?

[Anonymous No.17556140]

>>17553735
>>17556126
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTmrZwGOjUA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGy62SBIPV8

Yeah our guy Coloa is /fa/ certified.

[Anonymous No.17556156]

I don't really like any of these but anyway

[Anonymous No.17556316]

>redditors are about to pay $1480 (+$70 for rubber soles, +$200 for sizes over 20) for a shell GMTO for these fucking honkers of a boot.
oh no no no, this is close to fucking Edward Green GMTO money there.

[Anonymous No.17556318]

>>17556316
>for sizes over 20
over 12*
made in china BTW

[Anonymous No.17556345]

>>17556316
Lmao, if you get rid of the toe cap they look exactly like $200 boots

[Anonymous No.17556353]

>>17556316

[Anonymous No.17556415]

>>17556316
If you're gonna make fun of service boot #234 then at least name the particular service boot or brand you're making fun of.

[Anonymous No.17556418]

>>17556415
random chinese sweatshop

[Anonymous No.17556423]

>>17553761
Anyone know how these fit compared to say Timberlands?

[Anonymous No.17556440]

Does anyone have any leads for an American made casual chelsea boot? Red Wing's been out of stock on these, I'm not sure if they're going to rerelease them.

[Anonymous No.17556465]

>>17556440
i dont but those are made with foam insoles instead of the usual thick slab of leather

[Anonymous No.17556470]

>>17556465
Thanks.. I guess it's good they're out of stock then.

[Anonymous No.17556517]

Does this look about right? My toes have a steep angle from big to pinky so my big is covered by the cap but my pinky is clear below it. I can’t tell if they’re too big or not when I wear them.

[Anonymous No.17556519]

>>17556517
flex point aligns so i'd say they're ok

[Anonymous No.17556521]

>>17556517
if you got sized at a RW store they are probably not OK.

[Anonymous No.17556537]

>>17555977
ooh i like these, any others?

[Anonymous No.17556539]

>>17556537

[Anonymous No.17556541]

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>>17556539
hmm
tell me how much these are so i can go cry in a corner

[Anonymous No.17556565]

>>17556521
I did. These are an 8.5 EE. A full size down and an extra width up from my true size. My instep is unusually large but even then it feels like I could still go down half a size but maybe that’s just all the room they leave for an extra insole.

[Anonymous No.17556571]

lmao

[Anonymous No.17556577]

>>17556557
Bonafe MTO are ~800 eurobux with 21% vat included. A GMTO will have the 20% MTO surcharge removed.

[Anonymous No.17556579]

>>17556571
maybe its the retarded wedge profile that has them sliding forward

[Anonymous No.17556591]

I am once again asking for help ID’ing these boots

[Anonymous No.17556618]

>>17556591
probably blundstone idk

[Anonymous No.17556757]

>harchgron shell
Why?
Why mar the surface of good shell?
Does this compromise the structural integrity of of the material in any real capacity?
To me this is like that reverse shell memery bullshit. Makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.17556874]

for $200, is a goodyear welted sole good?

[Anonymous No.17556920]

>>17556316
Can't wait for the threads of them crying over mistakes or quality issues.

[Anonymous No.17556930]

>>17556920
You mean the typical White’s boots threads?

[Anonymous No.17557115]

If a shell GMTO from fucking china costs $1500 you know they are absolutely trash with handling shell and i don't know why you wouldn't just buy from experienced shell makers like Bonafe or C&J.
>>17556757
it looks sick, its very rare and it doesn't compromise anything either.

[Anonymous No.17557168]

>>17556920
iron actually seems ok just overpriced
it's the redditors who designed an ugly gmto

[Anonymous No.17557277]

>>17556557
In my country I have 24% VAT and I have paid 800€ for Bonafe suede loafers (MTO).
Mine may have been a little more expensive than normal because of topy cover and a little delicate apron stitchwork and also I asked for Janus suede (the best suede out there)

[Anonymous No.17557279]

>>17557277
they didn't charge me any extra for some pattern mods even

[Anonymous No.17557282]

>>17556316
What the fuck?
Which brand?

Carmina shell is like 950€ RTW and 1200€ MTO
Bonafe shell is like 1500€ MTO and they're one of the best there is for shell

[Anonymous No.17557286]

>>17557282
Iron Boots, im sure the quality is fine but its still made in China. Also this is a GMTO, so no MTO surcharge, like the prices you mentioned with Bonafe and Carmina.

[Anonymous No.17557439]

[Anonymous No.17557497]

look we said theyre new and theyre new to you arent they?

[Anonymous No.17557500]

we even broke them in for you???

[Anonymous No.17557505]

ok fine how does a $50 gift card sound?

[Anonymous No.17557507]

>is this normal wear for 1 week around the house
>Mine showed up looking worse than that! Currently waiting for Thursday to get back with me on a replacement!

[Anonymous No.17557541]

>>17556874
anyone?

[Anonymous No.17557584]

>>17556874
Which brand?

[Anonymous No.17557586]

>>17557584
idk its a surplus military boot

[Anonymous No.17557603]

>>17557497
I went down to red wing for some iron rangers, and they had to “order” my size and the ones that showed up looked like that. Told them hell no and order another pair. They had fucking black nylon stains on them.

[Anonymous No.17557608]

>>17557586
meh

[Anonymous No.17557617]

>>17557507
holy shit thats dry, they told me they use the same materials as my $500 Carmina boots wtf..

[Anonymous No.17557620]

ive been wearing my boots and they have this rubber sole protector, and it starts to squeak when i walk. even when i walk on asphalt. there was squeaking like 2 weeks ago, but it went away, and now it appeared again?

[Anonymous No.17557621]

>>17557507
looks like 80 dollar mall boots, why buy them in the first place?

[Anonymous No.17557624]

>>17557608
i mean what are the alternatives? i can atleast swap them out

[Anonymous No.17557630]

>>17557586
Surpluss boots are usually good quality for the price. That being said, 200 for a surpluss seems a bit high unless brand new, and even so.

[Anonymous No.17557633]

>>17557630
yeah its brand new. some austrian shit still used today apparently.

[Anonymous No.17557635]

>>17557586
post pic

[Anonymous No.17557642]

>>17557633
paramemes surplus are not $200

[Anonymous No.17557649]

>>17557633
Steinkogler feldsluch? They were 160 a few months ago.

[Anonymous No.17557651]

>>17557649
oh okay thats good to know. so the price isnt too off then thanks

[Anonymous No.17557662]

>>17557651
They're 215€ now on their page. Where are you getting them from?

[Anonymous No.17557664]

anyone has tried boots with the curved up toe, like in pic, and why does every niche italian artisan designer boot makers do that ?

[Anonymous No.17557673]

>>17557664
its called a "sprung toe" its supposed to help with walking

[Anonymous No.17557675]

>>17557664
looks like shit

[Anonymous No.17557680]

>>17557675
I dunno, I kinda like those

[Anonymous No.17557688]

>>17557664
The best shoemakers in the world say the ideal toe spring should be enough to slide a bic pen under the toe but not big enough to slide a finger.

Maybe it's good for hiking boots but for normal shoes it's just a sign of cheap and low quality construction.

[Anonymous No.17557734]

>>17557688
what. how a1923 are normal. imo the way they do it is purely for aesthetic reasons

[Anonymous No.17557739]

nice

[Anonymous No.17557760]

>>17557688
in my boots you i can put two of my fingers under the tip. and walking in them feels better than in sneakers. it just so satisfying, the heel strike with the clunk sound and your toes expanding into the leather when the sole rolls

[Anonymous No.17557776]

>>17557760
Anons also say Vibergs are trash but my unlined 2040s feel like I’m wearing slippers, don’t listen to anons bitching about shit. If it’s comfortable, that’s all that matters. This is a general for ladies’ shoes.

[Anonymous No.17557787]

>>17557760
Anons bitch about a lot of things, there’s one anon angry with Viberg but my 2040s are the most comfortable boot I have. This isn’t a thread for ladies’ shoes, what’s comfortable is most important.

[Anonymous No.17557856]

>>17557855
>>17557855
>>17557855

NEW

>>17557855
>>17557855
>>17557855

NEW