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Losers waste money on four to five figure toys edition

> Poorfag guide: https://m.imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
> Watch essentials 102: https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV
> Purchasing used watches: https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2
> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE

Should I buy this MVMT / DW / "minimalist" fashion watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

Should I buy this Armani / Michael Kors / mall watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/Sw1FsAn

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
> Wrist size or desired watch size

Beedweller edition

>> No.17209213
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17209213

>tachymetré

>> No.17209363

>>17209211

>> Your budget
50€
>> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
Sport
>> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
Automatic
>> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
water/sweat resistance; Heartbeat, km, No data leaking
>> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
Doesn't matter
>> Wrist size or desired watch size
small/thin

>> No.17209377

>>17209363
f-91

>> No.17209385

Why did you make a thread, you retarded nigger? There's already a watch thread
>>17208650

>> No.17209434

Speedmasters are last years meme

>> No.17210907

Best exercise watch?

>> No.17210992

>>17210907
g shock

>> No.17210993

>>17210907
Garmin

>> No.17211046

Sapphire crystal has a scratch on it. What are my options, bros? Is there something you can do to get rid of it?

>> No.17211098
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17211098

Why shouldn't I buy a second hand GS quartz from japan for a grand and call it a day?

>> No.17211103

>>17211098
Because quartz aren't real watches

>> No.17211114
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17211114

>Going in to watchmaking, starting in 3 weeks at the University
HELP ME, I DON'T THINK WILL MAKE ANY MONEY AND WILL DIE PENNILESS. NOBODY WEARS A WATCH ANYMORE. IT'S ALL G-SHOCK/FITBIT/SMARTWATCH. I DON'T THINK THAT ANYONE GIVES A SHIT AND THEY"RE ALL SLOBS.

WILL I EXIST? WILL I LIVE? WILL GOD GIVE ME A PORTION OF AGENCY?
I'm so lucky to get in. but the more I get around it's plastic plastic plastic everything!

>> No.17211143

>>17211098
Only thing I can think of is if you don't like quartz or the mediocre bracelets.

>> No.17211144

>>17211114
Imagine going into watchmaking as a career in 2022
Might as well work for a company making VHS tapes

>> No.17211151
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17211151

>>17211114
>people buy luxury watches to brag
>nowadays people buy smart watches to brag
It's literally the same thing, only it's more useful. No Rolex could compare to a good smartwatch, they're 1000 times more useful and functional

>> No.17211173

>>17211098
With that mindset why not get a san Martin new and call it a day, probably the best quality for price I’ve seen

>> No.17211184
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17211184

>>be me
>>love DBZ
>>love Swatches**
>>see pic related
>>no.

I have 5 but too lazy to takes new pics

>> No.17211190

>>17211046
Polish it out with 0000 steel wool.

>> No.17211191

>>17211046
Bump

>> No.17211193

>>17211114
They have university for this shit?

>> No.17211203

>>17211114
Its ok anon, I'll buy your watch :^)

>> No.17211209

>> Your budget
$6500
>> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
Dress
>> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
Auto or Hand
>> Desired features
Time only but more complications the better
>> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
Leather or bracelet
>> Wrist size or desired watch size
Average, 7’


Leaning Reverso here

>> No.17211290
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17211290

>>17211184
Goku and vegeta are jovenile but Roshi is just plain fun. Nothing wrong with any of them but it's interesting seeing collaborations being so amateurish. Casio does the best collaborations but I am biased. Casio has just been doing them longer.

>> No.17211315

>>17211290
kek. That's a cute and funny design, specially for anons who buy from foreign ADs and Aliexpress alot.

>> No.17211317

>>17211151
These /wt/ threads turned me off from GS, Omega, Ball and Tudor forever. Apparently only Rolex and Patek are luxury, and everything else is middle class tier.

>> No.17211320

>>17211098
Only if you don't care that you can probably get a comparable Seiko brand new for second-hand used prices.

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17211335

>> No.17211341

>tfw two active threads
Where should I post my new watch? I wanna see if you guys like it since none of my friends care and my gf is a whore.

>> No.17211394

>>17211341
post the gay photo here and the straight photo there

>> No.17211400
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17211400

Green or Dark Grey /fa/?

>> No.17211403

>I'm a wristlet with marked forearm muscle so not only do all watches look big, they also look like shit from the side because the strap widens vertically, not horizontally.

FUCK

>> No.17211413

>>17209211
Is this a rare double edition?

>> No.17211416

>>17211403
>because the strap widens vertically, not horizontally.
Huh? Can you explain this? Or just post a photo.

>> No.17211417

>>17211046
I don't think so. Best you can do is replace it probably.

>> No.17211419

>>17211400
Green probably.

>> No.17211423
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17211423

Cope, if you must, and you will.

>> No.17211426

>>17211151
>functional
How long does the battery last?

>> No.17211427

>>17211423
I refuse to cope, i'm fine with it.

>> No.17211428
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17211428

Bracelets with straight endlinks are kino

>> No.17211430

>>17211423
This is why I bought a rep :)

>> No.17211431
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17211431

>>17211423
>Sinn not enthusiast
anon your chart is shit.

>> No.17211432

>>17211184
Roshi is based

>> No.17211434

>>17211400
We already told you black.

>> No.17211438

>>17211427
>>17211430
>>17211431
Coping already. :)

>> No.17211440

>>17211151
I will never, ever, listen to the /biz/ bugwhore spammer.

>> No.17211445

>>17211114
Prepare to spend the rest of your life replacing batteries and servicing dogshit Seikos. Enjoy!

>> No.17211446

>>17211423
>esl can't use a comma

>> No.17211448

>>17211400
I like that yellow second hand, I'd go for the grey.

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17211449

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17211452

shoe general died

>> No.17211462

>>17211449
lol this one’s pretty good. nice work, rolexfag.

>> No.17211472
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17211472

Looking for a more affordable equivalent to the VC Patrimony

>1cm max thickness
>between 36 and 38mm diameter
>ideally in rose gold

>> No.17211479

>>17211290
i wish there was an alternative to gshock watch that don't look like kid watches from the 90s

it did not age well

>> No.17211481
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17211481

>so you're telling me this quartz watch
>looks the same
>tells the time better
>and is 1/3rd the price of the automatic?
>I'll take it

>> No.17211488

>>17211472
https://www.jomashop.com/frederique-constant-choco-double-heart-mother-of-pearl-dial-ladies-watch-306v4s9.html
There is a 40mm gold one too for 2 something thousand on there

>> No.17211491

>>17211472
>literally ripped off rolex explorer
retard

>> No.17211492

>>17211472
JLC MUT, 39mm but wears small due to small lug to lug

>> No.17211493

>>17211488
Fugg that's cheap for a gold watch

>> No.17211495

>>17211184
>VEGETA X SWATCH
>Picture of Goku
I get that it's supposed to be the scanner but shit's still retarded

>> No.17211497

>>17211209
>Dress
>More complications the better
What did he mean by this?

>> No.17211498

>>17211488
>>17211493
>>17211492
just buy a ROOOOOOLEX

>> No.17211502

>>17211488
>40mm
too big

>> No.17211503

>>17211452
Hello fellow sneaker / watch general crossposter. Do you try to match your shoes with your watch?

>> No.17211505

>>17211503
no i only wear two tone watches and tracksuits

>> No.17211506

>>17211497
I guess a JLC master ultra thin perpetual isn’t a dress watch according to you

>> No.17211509

>>17211472
https://www.ebay.com/itm/185485451993

>> No.17211521

>>17211098
You should.

>> No.17211527

>>17211428
Looks dumb

>> No.17211529

>>17211527
you look dumb retard

>> No.17211534

>>17211428
My problem with straight end links or bands is that they always look great off the wrist and often look horrible on the wrist depending on how much distance there is between the case and the strap/bracelet.

>> No.17211536
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17211536

>>17211335
Nice Invicta, how long have you had yours? I just got mine and it works fine (several compliments on it too) but I've been told they tend to break more often then not.

Also what model's your carry piece in the background?

>> No.17211541
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17211541

Which one? Learning toward Tissot since I already have a Seiko Presage dress watch and a Citizen diver.

>> No.17211544
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17211544

Picked up some Ali shitters for the first time in a while.

>> No.17211545
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17211545

>>17211505
Are you a slav?

>> No.17211547

>>17211506
If one goes by the most autistic, stringent interpretation of a dress watch, the only permissible complication is a small seconds. Obviously, none of those rules have mattered for decades but some anons are still deciding which fedora goes best with their waistcoat and black Kohl's sneakers.

>> No.17211549

>>17211545
im mexican

>> No.17211550

>>17211527
cuck

>> No.17211553

>>17211549
Sounds reasonable. Tracksuits are comfy.

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17211554

>>17211544

>> No.17211557

>>17211541
Tissot, then. Looks good.

>> No.17211559
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17211559

>rapes the explorer for 1/5 of the price >>17211553
for me it's the needles tracksuit

>> No.17211561
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17211561

>>17211529

>> No.17211563

>>17211553
indeed
>>17211557
yeah i'll probably pick that one up at a duty free airport when i fly out in a month

>> No.17211564

>>17211541
I have an auto prx and it's nice

>> No.17211565

>>17211534
thats fair, but unless you have Nomos-tier lugs, is it really a problem?
even then, when talking about bracelets it depends on the watch.

>> No.17211566

>>17211564
I'd get the auto but I don't like the waffle dial as much.

>> No.17211569

>>17211566
the quartz is better, the automatic uses plastic parts that WILL sawdust themselves

>> No.17211575
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17211575

Love my steel gees. For some reason the steel casioak doesn't attract me like these two do, not sure why.

>> No.17211576

>>17211575
I like the little cocksucker on the left. Very comfy

>> No.17211592

>>17211541
I will always love PRX, but the Seiko Sharp Edged line dials are absolutely gorgeous. I personally own a Tissot Gentleman and one Seiko Presage dress watch, but I think I'd still go for the Seiko in in your pic.

>> No.17211593

>>17211559
what's the ref/ this legit mogs modern explorer

>> No.17211596
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17211596

orient makes the best entry level watches. ,uch better that seiko/citizen/tissot

>> No.17211601

>>17211575
I'll never forgive them for going with polished finish for the bezel and brushed finish for the bracelet on the square
If the whole thing was brushed I would have bought one immediately, they're way too shiny in person

>> No.17211602

>>17211596
they're all the same except eco drive>all

>> No.17211604
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17211604

>>17211479
The design is a timeless.

>> No.17211606

>>17211596
yes but their logo sucks

>> No.17211608

>>17211596
Citizen Bullhead MOGS that Orient watch I'm sorry.

>> No.17211611

>>17211608
the Bullhead is also twice the price of the Orient, anon

>> No.17211615

>>17211428
only looks god with milanese mesh.
everything else is hit or miss. mostly misses.

>> No.17211617

>>17211601
Have it brushed to your liking yourself.

>> No.17211621
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17211621

>>17211575
>the steel casioak doesn't attract me like these two do, not sure why
I think it's a nice design but it also looks kind of big. It's only a couple of millimeters bigger than the original but the dial looks huge. I think you need a beefy wrist to pull it off. Unlike the square which even women can pull off. Also they kept the bracelet from the square which doesn't fit the design at all. I think it clashes.

>> No.17211623

>>17211615
it looks good on the turtle from the picture

>> No.17211626

>>17211604
How much is that thing

>> No.17211632
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17211632

>>17211626
$3500. You can get a similar watch for $3000 less.

>> No.17211638
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17211638

Don't post this one often
Kino

>> No.17211640

>>17211632
I wish they made a metal square without bluetooth/multiband. I just want a basic 5600 in steel

>> No.17211643

tudor really sucks

>> No.17211645
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17211645

>>17211575
Just look at that absolute unit on the left.

>> No.17211651

>>17209363
Presage

>> No.17211656

>>17210907
Shortjeans

>> No.17211663

>>17211602
>t eco drive>all

why?

>> No.17211665

>>17211663
>don't have to worry about battery
>extremely accurate time keeping even comparing to other quartz
>solar meme

>> No.17211683
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17211683

Just got this bad boy today.

>> No.17211685

>>17211683
enjoy

>> No.17211686

>>17211683
Not bad, post the back. The only bad thing I'm seeing about it is that the day/date window is a little bit too much to the left.

>> No.17211692

>>17211640
Multiband is the best bit

>> No.17211698

>>17211640
I agree. It's comical how big the metal squares are compared to a normal 5600.

>> No.17211718
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17211718

>>17211686
Sorry about the focus. Camera on my phone is pretty shit.
>The only bad thing I'm seeing about it is that the day/date window is a little bit too much to the left.
It doesn't bother me all that much. The orientation of the numbers kinda does for the simple fact that it makes 9 look like a 6, from a certain point of view, but it's more of a "you'll get used to it" things and less of an actual bother. Really love that the date & day just snaps into place at midnight instead of slowly rotating into place. I own a Seiko 5 too and that slow transition to the next day/date kinda irks me.

>> No.17211722
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17211722

>>17211640
I have bought a couple of G-Shocks with bluetooth because they are great watches but I would prefer if they didn't have bluetooth. They have basic squares with metal bezels but my favorite part is the metal case and back. The anniversary screw down back was already announced. Shame about the negative display.

>> No.17211731

>>17211692
I want my watch to be an independent timekeeper. That's basically the entire point of a watch in the first place

>> No.17211737

>>17211718
That explains the day-date window, the fuckers just really really wanted the case to be oversized in proportion to the actual movement. How big is the case anyway?

>> No.17211739

>>17211698
>I agree. It's comical how big the metal squares are compared to a normal 5600.
Wait, really? I thought they were identical?

>> No.17211752

>>17211564
Just out of curiosity, why is the prx the only tissot people like? I like the visodate and the le locle a lot more than the prx. Is there something special about it or do people just like the way it looks?

>> No.17211754
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17211754

>>17211739
No, it’s a bad case of Japanese autism. The horrendous oversized bracelet with baffling end links makes the watch feel huge but also cheap.

>> No.17211755
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17211755

>>17211737
42mm diameter and about 11 mm thick. I thought it would be too big, but to my surprise, I am not as much the wristlet as I thought myself to be. It fits just right. The leather strap is a bit stiff, but nothing I can't deal with. It's surprisingly comfy even so.

>> No.17211757

>>17211737
Did you know there is a selita s400 and whatever eta equivalent that is just a 2824 but wider?
Apparently almost noone uses them but i had never heard of them at all untill recently

>> No.17211759

>>17211752
I got it coz I like the look of it. The other tissots I've seen just look plain

>> No.17211761

>>17211754
Thats why the 5000u-1jf is the best g-shock

>> No.17211763

>>17211754
I see, wow, I really thought it was just a difference in the material.
>>17211755
FUCK, they could've made it even 40 and it would be perfectly proportioned. Still good for your arm though.

>> No.17211764

>>17211718
Damn man I like the exhibition back with the leather band .very classy

>> No.17211768

>>17211683
Fits you well anon, enjoy

>> No.17211769

>>17211759
I like it too I was just curious why you don’t see different ones. I’m getting a visodate to have something a little dressier than my other watches. Are you happy with the prx as far as quality and stuff?

>> No.17211774

>>17211769
Yeah I love it, the quality is really nice. Still getting used to wearing it as it's my first watch with a bracelet

>> No.17211776

>>17211752
I'm the person who is probably getting the green quartz, I like the bracelet a lot, the other ones don't have similar bracelets.

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17211794

>>17211763
Got pic related as my first, 39mm. I initially had the opposite fear before I got it, that it would be too small, but it fit nicely too. Got a leather strap for it too to class things up a bit, but the nato feels more like it still. Doesn't help with the thickness though.
Anyway, thank you, >>17211764 , >>17211768 , all for the feedback! Glad to be a part of the discussion for once.

>> No.17211801

>>17211623
not many watches have the lugs as short as the turtle. that's why it is mostly misses.

>> No.17211820

>>17211536
You can smell the Axe body spray from here hrh2kt

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17211830

>>17211739
>>17211754
The metal are less than a millimeter bigger and the fit is nearly identical.

>> No.17211837
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17211837

>>17211830
All you have to do is wear one to see that is obviously not the case. They made the end links flare presumably to mimic the flared rubber to let your wrist breathe some, only that's fucking retarded on a metal bracelet.

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17211839

>>17211837

>> No.17211841
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17211841

>>17211839
No, this is not photoshopped.

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17211843

>>17211841
I can do this all day but I think you get the point. It's fucking cooked.

>> No.17211847

>>17211839
>>17211841
>>17211843
Literally a non-issue if you aren't a pathetic wristlet and even if you were that's an easily solveable problem, the solution used to be shared on /wt/ all the time when we used to shill the aliexpress bezels.

>> No.17211849

>>17211794
Get a two pice nyslon strap for it, look and feel of a nato without the thickness

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17211852

>>17211837
>All you have to do is wear one
That's exactly what I'm doing. This exact moment. With that exact watch. The fit is nearly identical. These are my actual pictures.

>> No.17211853

>>17211852
I do not find end links protruding off my arm to be acceptable on a metal watch.

>> No.17211854

>>17211852
He's talking about how the end link (first link) doesn't bend and is fixed in place, so if you have tiny girl wrists it won't fit properly. The dimentions are actually nearly identical, especially for the bezel. The other anon is just a moron.

>> No.17211855

>>17211830
>>17211837
>>17211839
>>17211841
>>17211843
Why don't they articulate downwards like every other bracelet ever made?

>> No.17211856

>>17211853
Just how small are your wrists?

>> No.17211858
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17211858

>want to take wrist shot for friends
>have burn scars all over arms
unlucky

>> No.17211859

>>17211423
What is the implication of the pepe copter for enthusiasts on this chart?

>> No.17211861

>>17211855
Something to do with making the bracelet sturdier so that a hit to it won't make it rip out your springbars.

>> No.17211862

>>17211858
Just do it anyway anon, anyone who calls you out for having scars is a fuckface and their opinion should be discounted anyway

>> No.17211863

>>17211859
Pepecopter is above all the petty squabbling of those below him.

>> No.17211867
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17211867

>>17211855
autism. It floats slightly over your wrist. Sold mine a month after getting it because it felt weird, along with a surprisingly bad bracelet. I don't know what I expected for $500 though.

>> No.17211868

https://youtu.be/hjxKG4mR3U4?t=3402

What's this faggot wearing, is it a vintage Daytona?

>> No.17211869

>>17211849
Will do. I was planning looking for a different color one anyway.

>> No.17211871

>>17211683
Enjoy your new watch anon

>> No.17211876

>>17211871
Thank you, anon!

>> No.17211878

>>17211867
It just wraps around my wrist with no problem. If the unarticulated end link bothers people they can just file down the corner of it and tada, it's suddenly articulated. Not that I expect anyone on /wt/ to be willing or capable of doing even the most minute physical labor, you ladies rather cry and bitch.

>> No.17211879
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>>17211638
I enjoy my bulova, but mines ancient

>> No.17211881

>>17211878
Don't get mad that I insulted your most expensive watch. Fact is if you have to do some hack job mod to fix what is a pretty obvious design flaw, you fucked up.

>> No.17211882
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17211882

>>17211855
The strap/bracelet is part of the shock resistant design like the original. Even on a small girly wrists it fits fine.

>> No.17211895

I have more attachment to the $1.50 necklace i got from the street on vacation in Colombia than I do for 2/4 of my watches. I should sell them

>> No.17211901

>>17211881
It's not my most expensive watch lol and I don't have to do anything to it because I don't have tiny bitch wrists.

>> No.17211907

I found the full metal square really disappointing. I didn't have an issue with the endlinks although I thought it was weird and made the watch wear unnecessarily large. But the bracelet and clasp feel like what you get on a 200$ Seiko 5 with an oyster bracelet knockoff. Mine has sat in a drawer for months. I regret not getting one with a metal case and resin band. It's also weird to me that they are using the same setup for the metal Casioaks. It's shit.

>> No.17211908
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17211908

>>17211683
MIDO BRO
black is always more versatile, thought honestly, I dont understand mido's design language across their models.

>> No.17211910

>>17211907
Should have just bought a regular square with the aliexpress bezel. Idk when /wt/ decided to start being retarded and shilling the regular metal one instead of going after market.

>> No.17211911

>>17211536
Had it about 2 months. I think they will last a while if you're not a tard and leave the crown unscrewed or mess with the bracelet. Gun is a Steyr M9-A1

>> No.17211913
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17211913

>> No.17211932
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>>17211908
GOD DAMN, brother! That blue is too fucking sexy.

>> No.17211936

>>17211913
Nothing more nostalgically comfy to look at than a used up Casio.

>> No.17211939

>>17211596
>LOOKS like a chronograph, but it doesn't have any of what a chrono should have.
Total shit/10

>> No.17211940

>>17211596
very nice daytona

>> No.17211944

>>17211596
What are the "chrono" pushers for? Are they even functional?

>> No.17211945

please just buy a rolex im pissed

>> No.17211946
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17211946

>> No.17211948

>>17211611
But it's worth it.

>> No.17211951
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17211951

>> No.17211953

>>17211611
you can get the bullhead white reissue for around $300, even less on chrono24 if you're lucky. it's a top tier watch

>> No.17211960
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17211960

>> No.17211961

>>17211932
thanks mate
I'm always conflicted about sunray dials, particularly blue. sometimes they might as well be black, sometimes it just looks "off", and sometimes the blue comes through in full force.
Mine looks really pretty under the sun, so it is all good.

>> No.17211965
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17211965

anons.... im in love

>> No.17211968

>>17211965
Ugly dog face

>> No.17211971
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17211971

First buy

>> No.17211973

>>17211971
Nice

>> No.17211980
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17211980

>>17211961
The sleekness of the dial, that shade of blue inside and the way it shines, not to mention the strap... it really is an elegant piece. It is true that you can't pair it with as many, say, outfits as you would a plain black one, but if you do find the right combo (brown clothes, white shirt maybe, denim), this piece will enhance your image tenfold. I don't think it would gell too well with anything black.

>> No.17211981

>>17211971
coulda bought a rOOOOLEX and refer to the chat lol:)

>> No.17211982

>>17211462
Thanks, but I'm not a Rolexfag. I'm just coping here.

>> No.17211984

>>17211965
Is that a man unironically?

>> No.17211992

>>17211965
can't afford a better prostitute?

>> No.17211995

>>17211982
knew it, chartfag could never make a funny meme

>> No.17212004
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17212004

I cannot get over the beauty of this.

>> No.17212015
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17212015

Does anyone make a rubber strap similar to this one from Omega? I love it but it is proprietary to this particular Aqua Terra and wouldn't fit anything else.

>> No.17212024

>>17211995
Indeed, my dude.

>> No.17212026
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17212026

Watch for this feel?

>> No.17212032
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17212032

>>17212015
HIRSCH natural rubber straps might be a good option for you. There are a few different colors.

>> No.17212037
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17212037

Why can't you afford one?

>> No.17212043

>>17212015
It's just a little steel piece on the end of the strap. Lugs on the case are normal. Any watch band will fit.

But if you really want the look...
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2261800229777089.html?gatewayAdapt=4itemAdapt

>> No.17212048
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17212048

>>17212037
After thinking about it for a bit I was wondering why 4chins mentions Rolex like this and it reminded me of how it was with Trump back a couple of years ago in 2016. Rolex rustles peoples Jimmie’s like Trump and there’s a meme mystique.

>> No.17212049

>>17211046
bring it to a local jeweler/watchmaker

>> No.17212056

>>17212037
i got mine stolen

>> No.17212064
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17212064

Bronze and blue look so good together. Should I buy this?

>> No.17212065

>>17212056
people bother stealing reps?

>> No.17212075

>>17212065
Wasn't a rep, got mugged in Bordeaux. was a Rolex Explorer 114270 36mm

>> No.17212077

>>17212075
>explorer
He did you a favor, ugliest model bar the milgauss

>> No.17212080

>>17212026
Nomos

>> No.17212082

>>17212048
Except Trump inherently bothered people so much due to who he was. Rolex is just annoying because of how much it's repeated.

>> No.17212083

>>17212075
>wearing an expensive watch or anything worth money in europoor land
LOL

>> No.17212085

>>17212077
How can one me so based and cringe in one post.

>> No.17212087

>>17212064
This screams "I wish my father had children with my wife" but it's your choice man

>> No.17212088

>>17212064
>$2,000 for an sw200
Really obnoxious, i like the watch but that movement costs oris $40 each, maybe $50 with installing a custom rotor. They could at least use an sw-300.
Otherwise dig the brass and stainless two tone and the dial, its a really nice looking relase for them, and i generally think the divers 65 looks good.
Also the 100m of water resistance is annoying. Its more than you will ever use but its a dive style watch that isn't a dive rated wstch and it comes off as more of a cost saving measre than trying to keep the design slim or other aesthetic concerns.

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17212091

>>17212026
alain silberstein

>> No.17212097

no talk me

>> No.17212099

>>17212091
This makes me antisemitic

>> No.17212100

>>17212026
hello fellow /n/igger

>> No.17212127
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17212127

was it kino?

>> No.17212134

>>17212127
No. Too tryhard to be cool with the 404 and "error".

>> No.17212141

>>17211479
>it did not age well
literally kill yourself, you absolute tastelet

>> No.17212147

>>17212088
Thanks, I didn't realize Oris used such cheap movements. Is that generally the case for all the brands operating in that price range?

>> No.17212149

>>17211754
>baffling end links
it's to protect the case during a drop
also to protect your arm/hand if it's caught on something like machinery.
The fact that they were able to adapt every facet of the original design in steel is fucking amazing and you're retarded to not appreciate it.
Any wrist over 6in should have no problem wearing a steel G, yours isn't smaller than that, is it??

>> No.17212150

>>17212147
It varies but that range of $1,000-$3,000 is kind of a shitshow when it comes to value. Oris has their own in-house movements (that have some other issues) but their divers 65 models with said movement are priced at $3,600

>> No.17212151

>>17212147
I mean the sw200 just works, its easy to severcie and replace, every watchmaker in the world know how to work on it, and i like it more than the powermatic 80 generally but its just in such a wide range of affordable watches that it feels weird to spend so much for a watch with one. I can get san martin chickwatch models with an sw200 for $450-$550
It pains me because i really want to like oris and especially the divers 65, another occasional poster here has an older special edition one and it looks great.

>> No.17212154

https://www.chrono24.com/jaegerlecoultre/polaris-automatic-q9008480--id24306440.htm
good deal?

>> No.17212156

>>17212147
1000-3000 is a meme, below 1000 you can get far better movements than oris lol

>> No.17212165

>>17212154
Very good time to buy watches from japan right now. You are getting an almost 20% discount because the yen is so weak against the dollar.

>> No.17212169
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17212169

>>17212026
That looks like heaven. Anything with a pedometer or GPS.

>> No.17212173

>>17211910
Most people are happy with the metal ones and if they weren't they are not going to be happy with a chink downgrade. I've been on /wt/ for a couple of years now and I have only seen one guy shill buying a plastic g-shock and buying a bezel from ali. Most people want at least a steel case.

>> No.17212177
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17212177

This is the most expensive watch I have, bought it for about $300 (retails for $490 I think)

Did I do good? I kind of want to buy a $1000 watch just for special occasions but I'm unsure of what to get. I have 2 citizens, one Seiko, and a Bulova.

>> No.17212185

>>17212177
save up for a quartz grand seiko

>> No.17212197
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17212197

Longines. Based? Or cringe?

>> No.17212201

>>17212177
>2 citizens, one Seiko, and a Bulova.
should have just gotten a good one

>> No.17212202

>>17212177
>citizen
>eco drive
you did well

>> No.17212205

>>17212149
It’s jewelry. Not worth sacrificing form factor in case your arm gets caught in a machine lmao. One of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard.

>> No.17212224

>>17212201
I like to have different colors for different outfits/occasions though. I feel like if I had one $1000 watch I wore all the time it would get beat up and lost/stolen.

>> No.17212317

>>17212205
>It’s jewelry
>casio
retard

>> No.17212318

>>17211965
>nouveauriche.jpeg

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>mfw my high-end watch collection

>> No.17212349

>>17212347
your moonswatch is awesome

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For me it's _____

>> No.17212353
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17212353

>>17211830
The metal one looks a good 4mm thicker in that pic

>> No.17212355
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17212355

>>17211472
I have this Seiko in rose gold, it's 40mm though.

>> No.17212358

>>17211858
burn scars are effay

>> No.17212372

>>17212205
It's a gshock. No one wears them as jewelry, you're an absolute retard

>> No.17212379

>>17212205
We're reaching levels of faggotry

>> No.17212384

>>17211913
These were the bees knees back in the day.

>> No.17212387

>>17211559
>gives off a fun vibe
>no ugly font

>> No.17212390

breitling ruined my lif

>> No.17212395

>>17212091
I find these really ugly. Then again i find many watches to be ugly.

>> No.17212396

>>17212127
I was tempted to say yes but the rasterized font clashes with the otherwise smooth lines on the watch.

>> No.17212399

>>17212177
It looks nice apart from those 'diamonds'. If you really have to get a watch just for special occasions get a simple dress watch, a Presage or something like that. You'll only wear it every now and then so it doesn't really matter that much, get something that looks clean and that you like.

>> No.17212405
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17212405

>>17211596
Bro…is that watch 50mm? Are you seeing how that watch is bigger than your forearm?

>> No.17212406

>>17212075
If you wore a Grand Seiko or even a Patrimony they wouldn't even think of its value. In any case, it's a bad idea to wear a luxury watch on a shady city least you want your arm chopped off.

>> No.17212410

>>17212075
>Explorer
you did a good deed
guy probably pawned it for $100 and got himself a meal

>> No.17212411
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17212411

Neigh

>> No.17212415

>>17212411
based

>> No.17212416

>2019 preowned with box and papers
>light scratches on case
>5.5k
>2022 brand new
>8k
which should i get? ive never bought 2nd hand before. anything i should look out for?

>> No.17212417

>>17212416
which watch retard

>> No.17212418

>>17212417
not gonna let you snipe me bro

>> No.17212420

>>17212418
get the pre owned one if the bracelet is still good

>> No.17212424

>>17212416
>buy second hand
>day difference 1minute
lmao

>> No.17212431

>>17212147
>Is that generally the case for all the brands operating in that price range?
LMFAO wait until you see what 5-25k watches use.

>> No.17212434
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17212434

Does anyone know what this strap is called?

>> No.17212435

>>17212431
You could at least post some examples.

>> No.17212437

>>17212434
Rubber Strap.

>> No.17212438

>>17212434
Ugly rubber strap.

>> No.17212441
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17212441

>>17212435
Example right here. Grand Seiko.

>> No.17212445
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17212445

>>17212437
>>17212438
Yes, but specifically what is the name of this particular ugly rubber strap. It's a Speidel Twist-O-Flex, but I can't find any info on this variation with the knobbly plastic coating.

>> No.17212447

>>17212431
>>17212441
you are retarded
understood

>> No.17212449
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17212449

>>17212445
Reminds me of those rubber floor tiles.

>> No.17212457

deployant
clasp

>> No.17212468
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17212468

>> No.17212475

>>17212468
Did they finally make the crowns smaller?

>> No.17212476
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17212476

>>17212457
>deployant
>clasp

>> No.17212491

>>17212468
Oh I really like this.

>> No.17212508

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdd5clSAuvo

Who is this whot whore and why have I never heard of her?

>> No.17212509

>>17211965
why is she in the ground?

>> No.17212539
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17212539

>> No.17212540

>>17211317
You must be easily persuaded by random strangers on the internet then.

>> No.17212543

>>17211981
Are you ok???

>> No.17212547

>>17212353
The metal one is actually thinner. That's why you can't rely solely on pictures online. You need to look at pictures, videos, and read specs, but nothing beats having experience with the watch in real life.

>> No.17212558

>>17212147
Yes, but generally do you actually care about the movement or do you more so care about brand recognition or the finishing, case,dial hands, indices and all the stuff you actually look at? Sure, you could get a Zelos with a sw200 for cheaper than an Oris, or some Sanmartin, but its not the movement you are paying for, its everything else. (sw200 is a great and reliable movement anyway.)

>> No.17212568

What do you guys think about the Hamilton Ventura?

>> No.17212573
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17212573

>> No.17212590

>>17212573
Are they making the hands and indices wider on purpose?

>> No.17212610
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17212610

>> No.17212639

>>17211103
They're objectively better in every way

>> No.17212640

>>17211098
I bought a second hand HAQ Seiko for 200 bucks and it looks just as good

>> No.17212642

>>17212134
>>17212127
Not really kino but I always respect trying something different.

>> No.17212644

>>17211103
>quartz was so superior that it brought watchmakers to their knees
Sounds pretty based to me.

>> No.17212649
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17212649

>>17212351
I never questioned him having the JLC ultra thin in the first one because he's a famous doctor of course he could afford it but when they show in the second one the nurse bought it for him as just a "got you a little something" gift I was like what the fuck that watch is like 20 grand!

>> No.17212653
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17212653

>>17212640
I bought a second hand vintage non-HAQ Seiko for 50 bucks and it also (almost) looks just as good.

>> No.17212656

>>17212653
>dick and balls on the dial
nice

>> No.17212657

>>17212653
Penis Quartz is based

>> No.17212658

>>17212640
[X] doubt
[ ] Believe

>> No.17212674

>>17212658
I'll post a photo later mark my words. It's easily the best bang for buck in my collection

>> No.17212675

>>17211317
What's wrong with Ball?

>> No.17212677
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17212677

>>17212675
Have you looked at their watches?

>> No.17212679

>>17212675
The name. Makes people think about testicles, which makes them uncomfortable.

>> No.17212681
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17212681

What's wrong with ball he says

>> No.17212682
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17212682

>>17212677
The youtube shitter king reviewed this ball GMT once and I unironically love it. It's so overcomplicated it loops around and becomes beautiful.

>> No.17212688

>>17212681
Fucking hell

>> No.17212693
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17212693

> Your budget
£200
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
Diver
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
Automatic or quartz
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
Day/date
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
Stainless steel
> Wrist size or desired watch size
6 inches

Currently looking at the Oreint Mako II, is this a solid choice or are there any better?
Also I've never owned an automatic before, is the time loss annoying? My A168 loses 6 secs a month

>> No.17212696

>>17212682
There is so much going on with that watch, damn

>> No.17212699

>>17212693
Get the orient kamasu instead. Its an overall nicer watch and the Sapphire crystal is a basic thing that every watch should have in current year. Glass crystals will get scratched up over time. Find it cheap on ebay or jomashop or something.
The time loss can be annoying, i reset my automatics about once a week while im wearing them.

>> No.17212701

>>17212699
>orient kamasu
I should've said I was looking at that one too, but some people say it's a bit too big for 6 inch wrists

>> No.17212708

>>17212674
Which grand Seiko do you have

>> No.17212712

>>17212037
>>17212048
I'm having a weird Deja vu moment with these two posts, I remember seeing these two posts made in the same order and with a random post in between a year and a half ago. Very weird.

>> No.17212713
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>>17212701
Fellow wristlet here, it will fit you fine
Pic not mine but related

>> No.17212715

>>17212708
He said its an HAQ so its probably a dolce or an older seiko quartz, not grand

>> No.17212722

>>17212713
nice, thanks anon

>> No.17212727

>>17212396
that's the point you dipstick

>> No.17212730

>>17212713
Gotta love how Orient tackled the Seiko problem of the misaligned bezels

>> No.17212736

>>17212727
So the designer thought "Hmm, this clashes with the rest of the watch. Perfect!"

>> No.17212741

>>17212736
Yeah, now that you mention it it's pretty kino. Thanks for opening my eyes, anon.

>> No.17212743

>>17212736
are you daft or something? the design is VERY CLEARLY based around the juxtaposition of the smooth, clean geometry and numerals against the harsh, digital monospaced type, as if the watch itself has been overlayed with an "error message". it's the entire fucking point of the design you cleft.

>> No.17212746

>>17212743
So the watch itself is an error?

>> No.17212758

>>17212568
fuckin love em mate but i tried one on and instantly felt so embarrassed. you've got to basically be don draper to not look like a LARPing idiot wearing one

>> No.17212769

new
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>>17212768
>>17212768
>>17212768
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>> No.17212808

>>17212508
Because her collection is shit.

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something I noticed watching the newest Teddy Bulbasaur vid

>>17211400
green

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>>17211472
have a bit of an out of the box recommendation for you - the Sinn 1736.
>36mm
>1cm thickness
>Due to being a sinn, also has 100m WR
>Display caseback if you care

>> No.17213644

>>17211541
PRX, makes sense to avoid not only the brand overlap, but style overlap too. That will get you a nice well rounded collection mate.