/fa/ - Fashion

[Anonymous No.17135583]

Are traditional American tattoos the most effay of all tattoo styles?

[Anonymous No.17135587]

masculinity is so dead that the attempts made to bring it back end up killing it even more

[Anonymous No.17135591]

>>17135587
Having a Black Panther on your arm is cool

[Anonymous No.17135604]

>>17135587
Because the revival of old aesthetics is almost always just visual. There’s rarely any thought on why the style came into being or the lived experiences of those that originated it. Hipsters couldn’t do anything but deconstruct and distance themselves from the Victorian aesthetics they hung on to. The Reddit, nu-man, fake lumberjack does much the same. Your clothing should be an expression of who you are, not some /fa/ggy ironic stance or protest. We wear who we are and how we live. We wear what we want to be and what we will become.

[Anonymous No.17135647]

>>17135604
Well said

[Anonymous No.17135652]

>>17135604
So if I want these tattoos I must learn to box, dig ditches, lose my eldest son to polio and beat my wife on a regular basis?

[Anonymous No.17135654]

>>17135652
wouldn't hurt

[Anonymous No.17135660]

>>17135583
>>17135587
What does the black ace of spades signify?

[Anonymous No.17135694]

>>17135660
Bad luck

[Anonymous No.17135755]

>>17135652
Yes

[Anonymous No.17135817]

>>17135583
Only if you get like 1 or two, covering yourself looks stupid, it also looks like some gay hipster shit if you're not /fit/

Pic related is PEAK kino though and is why I wanted to be a tattoo artist for a while till I realized the kinda tattoos people actually get and started to hate it.

[Anonymous No.17135866]

>>17135817
Nah sleeves are played out now

Retvrn to tradition

[Anonymous No.17135916]

>>17135604
we must protect the cultural sanctity of, uh, *checks notes* american sailors in asia getting drunk on shore leave and waking up with tattoos they don't remember

[Anonymous No.17136078]

Trash Polka
https://gprivate.com/60015

[Anonymous No.17136081]

>>17135916
You’re assuming these tattoos were nice or worth defending to begin with. Go ahead and get LARPy permanent markings on your body to show how big of a queer you are. I tried stopping you, but I’m okay with laughing at you.

[Anonymous No.17136157]

>>17135583
Yes. Who doesn't want to look like a fucking Ed Hardy shirt forever?

[Anonymous No.17136166]

>>17136081
a swing and a miss.

[Anonymous No.17136260]

>>17136081
I sense fear in you. A fear of ever doing anything out of the ordinary. You are the worst kind of coward: a boring one.

[Anonymous No.17136264]

>>17136260
> I sense fear in you. A fear of ever doing anything out of the ordinary. You are the worst kind of coward: a boring one

[Anonymous No.17136291]

>>17136264
what do people like these do for a living where they can afford the absurd costs for all of these tattoos and body mods, while also allowing them to work at their company looking like they do

[Anonymous No.17136293]

>>17136291
Trust fund kids

[Anonymous No.17136357]

>>17136291
I quite often see a guy walk past my apartment with full head skull tattoo and all and he always walks to a nearby factory so I assume he's a worker there. If I had to guess then people with absurd tattoos like that work low income jobs that its hard to find anybody else for and that are sort of behind closed doors so that the company doesnt have to fear for their image by employing them
but more than that my guess is: they dont work, silly

[Anonymous No.17136942]

>>17136357
A lot of them are mentally damaged and are on Government Assistance.

[Anonymous No.17136971]

>>17135652
At least half of those tattoos are sailor tattoos, gotten by guys working on ships either out of a sense of superstition (which sailors are famous for) or to mark their camaraderie with their crew mates.
Does any of that apply to you? Have you ever had your ship rocked by a storm and wondered if you might actually die then and there? Have you ever been locked in metal box with a bunch of other guys for weeks on end, knowing that you'll only make it to shore alive if you all work together as a team?
If not, then all significance of those tattoos is lost. You could certainly still go and get one, but what's the point? You're paying money to permanently wear symbols you don't understand, belonging to people you'll never know, from a time that no longer exists.

[Anonymous No.17136993]

I want the heart one but instead of Mom it says "Your Mom"

[Anonymous No.17137029]

>>17136971
>a time that no longer exists
Somebody failed physics!

[Anonymous No.17137056]

>>17136993

[Anonymous No.17137077]

>>17135817
Is it retarded to get a traditional Japanese style tattoo if you're not Japanese though?

[Anonymous No.17137258]

>>17137077
Yes. You’ll be the eternal Uniqlo logo.

[Anonymous No.17137765]

>>17137056
Not like this, the heart thing

[Anonymous No.17137789]

>>17135583
Tattoos are for slaves, convicts and pagans

[Anonymous No.17137806]

[Anonymous No.17137815]

>>17137077
No it’s not retarded… if you want a traditional tattoo like that and you bring it back to your home country, i guarantee you will only get compliments. Ofc you shouldn’t be trying to larp as yakuza, especially if your attitude isn’t quiet aggressive. Let me tell you something, if you have the attitude for whatever you put on your body, no one will question you, even the tattoo hating anons would compliment your piece. Most of this shit talk is internet based. Most anons are actually decent irl and wouldn’t put you down like that

[Anonymous No.17137896]

>>17137815
Non-Japanese people that get Japanese tattoos are worst than huwhite Texans getting tribal tattoos. I’d much rather put someone down online than allow them to be put down in real life, especially if it’s something that’s probably going to stick with them for the rest of their life. Keep advising people to make permanent bad decisions though anon.

[Anonymous No.17137911]

>>17137896
This is why the only "tribal" I'll get is celtic runes or a triskelion. If you're going to get something tatted, at the absolute very least it has to 1) not be a pop culture reference 2) have some relevance to your life/ancestry/ culture

[Anonymous No.17137918]

>>17137911
Good advice.

[Anonymous No.17138192]

>>17136971
Who are you the tattoo police?

>>17137911
I agree with this.

[Anonymous No.17138987]

>>17136264
>>17136291
A lot of them (including Lizard Man) are literal freakshow/sideshow performers

[Anonymous No.17139163]

>>17137896
Niggah getting a tattoo on the style of traditional Japanese art is appropriation which is essentially what your fucking telling people not to do you Fucking nerd holy shit

[Anonymous No.17139196]

>>17137911
>triskelion

[Anonymous No.17139224]

>>17135660
that you'll fuck black guys

[Anonymous No.17139230]

>>17139196
Get it?
Tried? Triad? Triskele?
It's a metaphor for three-legs!!

[Anonymous No.17139461]

>>17139163
>just put permanent symbols associated with a foreign culture on your body, lol. It’s not like you have any self-worth or your body means anything.
What an absolute retard.

[Anonymous No.17139482]

>>17135866
>retvrn to tradition
true, munewari suits or bust

[Anonymous No.17139485]

>>17137077
if you read some books about Japanese tattooing, you'd know Japanese tattooers actually love getting foreigner clients, since it allows them to showcase their work outside Japan

[Anonymous No.17139506]

>>17136260
Yea having a tattoo is really out of the ordinary...
I'm not the guy you were fighting with, but I think there is a kernel of truth in what he was saying. I like the style of tattoo but it can come off as larpy if you overdo it

[Anonymous No.17139511]

>>17137911
My m8 has a fucking Mario kart tattoo and it actually looks great. I thought itd be awful when he told me his plan but it looks good and and there is no pretense about it. He just likes Mario kart lmao

[Anonymous No.17139639]

>>17135583
Extreme cringe if you are not an actual midwesterners
I see slags here in eastern europe wearing them and it’s always terrible

[Anonymous No.17139641]

Come home White man

[Anonymous No.17139652]

>>17139511
Imagine showing your boss that tattoo. You’d look like you’re a man child and a queer. You’re a retard and so is your friend.

[Anonymous No.17139657]

>>17139652
>Imagine showing your boss that tattoo. You’d look like you’re a man child and a queer.
So I’d get hired on the spot?

[Anonymous No.17139661]

>>17139657
If you work for an American tech company, yes.

[Anonymous No.17139698]

>>17139224
>>17135660
zoom's law

[Anonymous No.17140020]

>>17139652
I'm from London, England.

[Anonymous No.17140024]

>>17140020
Checks out

[Anonymous No.17140236]

>>17140024
Problem big guy?

[Anonymous No.17140898]

>>17135591
Yes, if you’re a faggot

[Anonymous No.17140902]

>>17135583
I get a tattoo from a good local artist everytime i travel to a new country and usually let them choose what they want to put on me as long as they compliment the other pieces. I don't really do it for the aesthetic more like how people collect passport stamps. Usually they pick something culturally important, can't go to America though afraid of getting attacked by crazy social justice people.

[Anonymous No.17142038]

>>17135583
i like traditional but not a fan of patchwork sleeves. they better alone than grouped together.

i like japanese traditional better for large scale pieces.
>>17137077
no japanese tattoo master horiyoshi III tattoos foreigners all the time.

[Anonymous No.17142054]

>>17140902
I hate people like you and wish for terrible things to happen to you.

[Anonymous No.17142127]

>>17135583
Corny and gay. Reminds me of idubbz and his roastie gf

[Anonymous No.17142128]

>>17142127
I don't know who that is Zoomer.

[Anonymous No.17142132]

>>17142128
They're cringe millennials like you

[Anonymous No.17142930]

[Anonymous No.17142943]

>>17142930
He looks terrible. I think it’s best to be buff if you’re deadset on going for this.

[Anonymous No.17144347]

>>17135583
So from what I gather you anti tat niggers are actually using the le cultural appropriation argument.
>you’re not Japanese
>you’re not from the mid west
>your not Nordic
>you’re not Celtic
>you’re not white
Imagine my shock when you are using double think. You don’t like tattoos, great, people who know how to wear the ink look good in their style, and others look like shit cause they got a dumb image. I agree a lot of tats look bad but when it’s done right it’s effay. Regardless, half this bird is androgynous curly headed closeted homos anyway

[Anonymous No.17144403]

>>17144347
I’ve been arguing against tattoo ideas in this thread, but I’m not against tattoos in general. I’m just not some low-impulse retard that’s going to tattoo a scrotum on my forehead. If you’re going to get a tattoo, make sure it’s worth it. Encouraging shit tattoos, mistakes that are difficult to undue, is a really shitty thing to do. As for cultural appropriation, wearing a Native headdress to a festival for a day is different than carrying a tribal symbol on your body for the rest of your life. You’ll forever have a marking less meaningful to you than a midnight trip to McDonalds. It’s just a fetishistic consumption momento, a meaningless image on a meaningless body if it’s commissioned for no meaning deeper than a shallow aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.17144439]

>>17144403
If I get a tattoo, it would be from an artist that I can really respect. I’m a art fag so having someone’s masterpeace on my body would be meaningful to me. Like i said though, the stars would have to align perfectly for me to even begin considering it. I’ve seen some beautiful Japanese colored pieces and they are captivating. Same goes for the Thai trad pieces. Carrying a truly talented artists art with you is an honor.

[Anonymous No.17144464]

>>17144439
If you’re actually spending the time thinking about it, reading up on tattoo artists, and want to make your body into an art piece, go for it. I think OPs gay image looks terrible still though. Don’t go with that. It’s just shitty kitsch. You deserve better than that. I hope your tattoos come out great though, anon.

[Anonymous No.17144523]

Can I do an American Traditional sleeve on my left hand and a realism sleeve on my right, or will I look like a nonce? I like both styles

[Anonymous No.17144556]

>>17135583
body modification is indication of mental illness

[Anonymous No.17144570]

>>17144523
If you have to ask, really think it over. There’s no need to rush. Don’t just go with a theme. Unless you have complete faith in an artist’s work or are 100% what you want, take some time and really mull over it.

[Anonymous No.17144597]

>>17144464
Thanks bro

[Anonymous No.17144928]

>>17136078
Trendy shit from the 80s/90s.
Tats will always date you.
Just look at all the guys with "dad bods" and tribal and barb wire tattoos from back inna day.

[Anonymous No.17145223]

>>17139652
Guess he'll just have to become a boss

[Anonymous No.17145245]

Not having any tattoos is the new having tattoos.

[Anonymous No.17145321]

>>17145245
lol
no

[Anonymous No.17145343]

>>17145321
I can hear your regret through the screen.

[Anonymous No.17145371]

>>17145343
I have zero tattoos.

[Anonymous No.17145377]

>>17145223
Yes. In American tech companies, people do this once they reach senior positions. So ya, become the boss before you do this.

[Anonymous No.17145379]

>>17145245
Not wearing clothes in the new wearing clothes

[Anonymous No.17145977]

finna get some variation of this tatted cuz I hate women

[Anonymous No.17145982]

[Anonymous No.17145985]

>>17145977
Lol, this is actually a good tat idea. Where would you put it?

[Anonymous No.17145988]

[Anonymous No.17145990]

>>17145988
You have to have bigger biceps than pic rel if you really want to pull it off. If that’s not the case, hit the gym beforehand.

[Anonymous No.17145993]

>>17142943
>Ed Hardy and Horiyoshi III look like shit
lol
lmao even

[Anonymous No.17145995]

>>17145985
>>17145988

[Anonymous No.17145999]

>>17145993
I don’t think Ed Hardy’s clothing design is really all that. You can tell his job had a huge influence in his design work. I think being toned and wearing a wife-beater while having a sleeve from him would look kinda cool though.

[Anonymous No.17146003]

>>17145990
Yea, it's a pretty bad look when the guy in your tattoo has bigger muscles than you. But ironically one of the reasons I'm thinking of taking the sleevepill is I am 6'5 and it takes a tremendous amount of food, cooking, and training for me to get and keep juicy arms. Like, 4000 calories a day. So I'd rather just get tasteful sleeves to remain Alphafuxx and be done with it

[Anonymous No.17146106]

>>17145985
My forehead

[Anonymous No.17146183]

I want to look like a slightly more buff esoteric tattooed version of Ryan Gosling in Beyond the pines, so far so good.
Gonna add some more asap, there is a cool tattoo artist living nearby that i'll hit up.

>>17145990
when I got my first tattoo the artist said something along the lines of "you look like the next time i see you that arm is gonna be even bigger", somehow managing to be both a mire and inspiration.

[Anonymous No.17146222]

>>17146183
Ryan Gosling in pic rel doesn’t look because of his tats, but in spite of them.

[Anonymous No.17146226]

>>17146222
Look good

[Anonymous No.17146228]

>>17146222
Without them he would be a more virginal character.
He needs them to lend him street swagger for this role.

[Anonymous No.17146236]

>>17146222
I mean I have seen 7 Ryan Gosling movies in the last 24 hours, I can separate Gosling and his looks from his appareance and aesthetic currently. I like the aesthetic, I realise he looks good regardless. You could crop the image at the chin, and I'd feel the same.

[Anonymous No.17146238]

>>17146228
Is that what you’re going for? Are you trying look more tough? If so, do you plan on changing what you wear at all?

[Anonymous No.17146277]

>>17146238
I'm not tryna be a car thief

[Anonymous No.17146287]

>>17146277
Nice

[Anonymous No.17146902]

>>17145985
giant back piece

[Anonymous No.17146940]

>>17136078
trash polka is the fucking worst

[Anonymous No.17148099]

>>17145245
You reek of insecurity

[Anonymous No.17148189]

>>17135583
>>17135817
>>17136078
>>17136264
>>17137056
>>17137789
>>17137806
>>17137815
>>17139482
>>17139641
>>17142930
>>17144439
>>17145977
>>17145982
>>17145988
>>17145995
>>17146003
>>17146183
>>17146236
>>17146277
The biggest thing that makes a tattoo good or bad is placement and how it moves. Pic related is a great short read with good visuals, but in particular, the relevant section to this is the brief biography of the Traditional Japanese tattoo artist who apprenticed under and old master and later went on to work with the famous sailor Jerry and develop the tattoo style in OP.

Before he had the apprentice do his first tattoo he made him get up at the crack of dawn and sit with him at a koyfish pond all day from sun up to sun down. No talking, just watching them swim (his first tattoo would be a koyfish backpiece). When they went inside, the master asked the apprentice why he did it and he said, "It's because you wanted me to see the real thing and how it moved and lived in life." He'd talk about going to the exhibitions of old master's works and how the tattoos not only looked stunning but moved with the person's body and almost seemed like it was alive.

I wanted to get into tattooing for a while and shadowed some guys here in CT (there's some surprisingly world famous tattoo artists in this state for whatever reason) and one guy told me, "If you take a section of skin this big (he made a circle with his index fingers and thumbs) and a section right next to it will be totally different in the way it moves, pulls, holds ink etc. More than just the design is how a tattoo is placed and how well the artist is at making a tattoo sit well and move well on a person's body so to speak. You really gotta see these tattoos on real people in person to know if their artist is good. Also, don't go off shit you see online cuz 99% of the time you're seeing the shit right after it's placed when it's still very vibrant cuz the ink is still in the epidermis.(cont.)

[Anonymous No.17148195]

A tattoo is permanent cuz the area will scar over and the scars hold the ink. The top layer of skin will scab over and fall off (taking care of it during this period, using ointments, keeping it out of the sun, not picking scabs etc will heavily effect how the final turns out) and the actual permanent tattoo will me more faded. Over time, depending on a number of factors a tattoo will fade a bit as the body reabsorbs some of the scar tissue and you will likely need to have it touched up every now and again every few years or so. That's why the more simplistic the design the less care you need to put in and the better it'll turn out and why I actually had to simplify my stuff for my portfolio and eliminate a lot of lines cuz the ink will blow out a bit as it's deposited even with very skilled artists with a steady hand.

Anyway, that's all from me, just be smart and don't get faggy shit but whatever you get know it's permanent, it hurts and that's how it's supposed to be. It should be important enough to justify all that, that's a paraphrasal of what Sailor Jerry himself said.

[Anonymous No.17148302]

>>17142943
Stop watching Marvel movies and getting body dysmorphia.

[Anonymous No.17148312]

>>17148302
I know about there being camera tricks that go into all that. I just want anon and his tattoo to look their best.

[Anonymous No.17149286]

"Yes, I’d like to add that in Japan tradition in general is in a downfall and my Zen master there he is alone, (funnily enough I have a Zen master, a flute master, a tattoo master, a master for sword so it’s quite crazy). But most of those guys have the opinion that the future of their trade lies in the West, like when my Zen master comes to London for a retreat in the realm of meditation for example, he’s now 80 and he needs someone to take over his temple and there is no-one – he is alone in Japan."

- Alex ‘Kofuu’ Reinke AKA Horikitsune
apprentice of Horiyoshi III

[Anonymous No.17149666]

>>17136971
I’ve done all of this and you couldn’t pay me to get a tattoo in this style. Reddit types have ruined it

[Anonymous No.17149689]

>>17135652
>>17135916
>>17136260
numale hipsters always act like a bunch of passive aggressive women whenever they argue with anyone. Seriously dude I'd bitch slap that bearded baby face of yours in front of your girl and I guarantee you wouldn't do shit about it, you sound like a faggot.

[Anonymous No.17149738]

>>17149286
>ywn be a weeb tattooist in Japan, studying with Horiyoshi III and continuing the legacy of one of the eldest documented tattooing cultures
feels bad

[Anonymous No.17151518]

>>17149666
You're too much of a timid bitch to get tatted up.

[Anonymous No.17153296]

Bump

[Anonymous No.17153301]

>>17151518
god damn, this is the saddest thing i've ever seen.

anon tells this guy he shouldn't get stolen valor tattoos that imply he did something meaningful because that's pretty gay.
his response is that anon is too much of a pussy to get tattoos.
ie. he thinks getting the tattoo itself is a big deal...
in 2022 he thinks this.

[Anonymous No.17154058]

>>17153301
Thinking that every tattoo needs to mean something is timid bitch behaviour.

There's nothing wrong with an accountant getting tatted up like the OP pic. Deal with it, you timid little weasel.

[Anonymous No.17154369]

>>17154058
>My body means nothing. Your body means nothing. Just draw whatever on it. I have no meaning and neither does my body.
Anon, don’t tempt people here. These things are permanent and need to be though through.

[Anonymous No.17154375]

>>17153301
>>17154058
>My body means nothing. Your body means nothing. Just draw whatever on it. I have no meaning and neither does my body.
Anon, don’t tempt people here. These things are permanent and need to be thought through.

[Anonymous No.17154456]

>>17139641
>tattoos Jewish "virgin" on himself
oh boy

[Anonymous No.17154740]

>>17154058
>thinking that every medal has to be meaningful

lol i just like the aesthetics of the medal of honor. i don't know why people get buttmad about me wearing it.

[Anonymous No.17154803]

>>17154740
It literally is meaningful. It has a meaning and purpose. It’s a designator of a specific award. It spits on the graves of everyone that died to receive that award. The flag is one thing, a medal you didn’t earn is another.
t. veteran

[Anonymous No.17154983]

>>17154803
that was my point.
sailor tattoos meant specific shit too.
like x tattoo means you have sailed every ocean or been to the arctic and back or shit like that.
wearing them for no reason is as gay as if someone walked around with a medal on that they didn't earn.

[Anonymous No.17154990]

>>17154983
Ya, I read it again afterwards and realized I’m retarded.

[Anonymous No.17155278]

>>17154456
Better than tattoooing my daughter’s father on my asscheeks like you

[Anonymous No.17155335]

>>17155278
>you're either a Jew-worshipper or a fag!
Ah, the wonders of the lower classes.

[Anonymous No.17155608]

>>17155335
>rage of the wolf
>carelessness of the dove
>softness of the sheep
Isn't this just anthropomorphizing animals? Sounds like that cringe "inside me there are two wolves" shit you see posted by guys on facebook who went to the school of hard knocks.

[Anonymous No.17155629]

>>17155608
Yes, that’s American neo-paganism for ya

[Anonymous No.17155632]

>>17155629
It's the ideological equivalent of this with some more esoteric shit on top of it.

[Anonymous No.17156203]

>>17155632
This shirt would incriminate you if you actually had to shoot someone in a self defense situation

[Anonymous No.17157102]

I used to not like American tattoos, but they seem to age well.

[Anonymous No.17157110]

>>17145982
Wow he is literally me!

[Anonymous No.17157114]

>>17155632
God boomer tough guy core is cringe. But kino worn ironically. My boomer uncle pisses into a plastic bag and has a bumper sticker of a plane on a us flag, dropping bombs, it says "resistance is FUETILE" above his "proud to have served" sticker for his time managing the tool checkout desk on a navy boat.

[Anonymous No.17157116]

>>17155632
>(SKULL EMOJIE) TOO SLOW TO RUN (SKULL EMOJIE)
When am I getting an Adult Swim show, starring the skeletons that live on boomer shirts?

[Anonymous No.17157164]

>>17135583
Generally don't like tattoos in general and don't see how someone can like something enough to get it on their body. Like, can't you just get the design tattood on a piece of leather and hang it on the wall? Or just get the art done on a piece of canvas?

When girls get large ones it always seems like a form of self harm for whatever reasons.

Also if you do get a tattoo, I don't believe in the special menacing bs. How good it looks should be what matters the most. All the obscure explanations is just a cope that theyre almost always just a socially influenced meme. Notice how ppl in similar age groups of different generations all have similar styles of tattoos even down to the location?

Even ppl who got tatts in the past whether for traditional culture or cos they were in the army or whatever just goes to show it was always a peer pressure socially influenced meme, yet ppl nowadays seem to get offended when you mention that its socially influenced.

[Anonymous No.17157181]

>>17135583
well, it is a tried and true style

[Anonymous No.17157183]

>>17157164
>Notice how ppl in similar age groups of different generations all have similar styles of tattoos even down to the location?

wow, its almost as if people's aesthetic tastes are influenced by the time and place they exist in!

[Anonymous No.17157197]

>>17157183
>wow, its almost as if people's aesthetic tastes are influenced by the time and place they exist in
Exactly so it's funny when ppl try to come up with their special meaning copes instead of just admiting they got the tattoo cos they thought it would be cool and that they were influenced by others into getting tattoos

[Anonymous No.17159240]

Much anger itt

[Anonymous No.17159344]

>>17155629
>>17155632
>yeah bro the biological characteristics of a wild animal in you are total bs lmao gayyyyyyyyyyyyyy xddddddd
>oh yeah bro you have invisible demons inside you that make you touch yourself, but I have the cure, praise yahweh and israel
do christcucks really?

[Anonymous No.17159466]

>>17159344