latest /fa/ meetup in boston

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Anonymous Mon Jul 4 14:09:13 2022 No.17111575 [Reply] [Original]

latest /fa/ meetup in boston

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 14:25:11 2022 No.17111594 >>17111575 wtf why is Dahmer there i thought he died like 30 years ago

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 14:42:21 2022 No.17111612 Too many t-shirts desu.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 14:46:58 2022 No.17111622 How come at every /fa/ meetup everyone is typically wearing the most basic shit? You would think if you're meeting up with other people that are into fashion you would wear something slightly interesting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 14:49:31 2022 No.17111624 >>17111622 >How come at every /fa/ meetup everyone is typically wearing the most basic shit? Americans think wearing a dress-shirt, to go to a diner, is 'too formal'. That they'd be breaking social conventions by doing so. I kid you not.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 14:50:05 2022 No.17111625 >>17111575 Only two of the people in this image are effay

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 14:52:28 2022 No.17111629 >>17111575 all guys that get pussy

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 14:52:30 2022 No.17111630 >>17111575 Looks more like a r9k meet-up

Anonymous Mon Jul 4 14:52:36 2022 No.17111631

>>17111624
I'm American and this clearly isn't a formal event you fucking autist. It would genuinely be weird if someone wore a dress shirt to this. Just because American culture is different doesn't mean its flat out incorrect. Become a relativist. It wouldn't be weird if the dress shirt was worn as an over shirt on top of a t-shirt.
There's nothing outright wrong with these fits, it's just if I were to do a meetup, which I wouldn't, I would wear something more interesting. Not a fucking dress shirt.

Anonymous Mon Jul 4 15:02:21 2022 No.17111644 [DELETED]

>>17111575
Starting from right
1. Literally a gym attire
2. German Mr Beast with mismatching shoes
3. Looks normal
4. This would've looked better he didn't have that protruding ugly beer belly
5. Nice but you look too insecure
6. Antisocial MtF repressor

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 15:04:06 2022 No.17111648 GET THEM

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 15:04:32 2022 No.17111650 File: 1.38 MB, 719x1000, PrinceofWales.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17111631 >Americans genuinly consider a simple dress-shirt too formal LMAO

Anonymous Mon Jul 4 15:07:38 2022 No.17111656

>>17111650
Yes, because the standards of a different country across an entire ocean can determine whether the customs of a different country are valid.
God, Europeans are genuinely so fucking stupid it's insane. A lot of Americans are brain dead as hell, but I would rather be borderline retarded than have my head all the way up my ass.
>Anything that's different than my norm is cringe

Anonymous Mon Jul 4 15:09:46 2022 No.17111659

>>17111656
>because the standards of a different country across an entire ocean can determine whether the customs of a different country are valid.
Isn't that what America does with its military since 1900s?
>no, you can't have dictatorships, you MUST have democracy or we will blow you up

Anonymous Mon Jul 4 15:13:51 2022 No.17111668

>>17111659
It's not like I have a say in what my country on that scale does. I agree, my country has done some cringe shit with it's power. We're talking culture here though, nice try at trying to deflect. Just embarrassing, get off your high horse.
Again, become a relativist. There's clearly a reason my country is more culturally significant than yours which explains why so many Europeans get butthurt over American culture being different. I genuinely think the entirety of Europe is more autistic than America.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 15:14:43 2022 No.17111672 yeah this is hopeless

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 15:15:34 2022 No.17111673 >>17111575 Jesus Christ the guy 2nd to right looks like he just barely survived the Irish potato famine

Anonymous Mon Jul 4 15:18:30 2022 No.17111677
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>>17111668
>We're talking culture here though
System of government isn't culture? bruh.

>his country goes around telling the WHOLE WORLD that they MUST use democracy because it's the ABSOLUTE BEST SYSTEM BECAUSE WE SAID SO
>oh, btw, it's not a choice, you WILL use it or we WILL BLOW YOU UP
>we do this because we are absolutely convinced we are right and you are wrong

>'get off your high horse'
Oh, Americans, so fucking stupid.

Anonymous Mon Jul 4 15:21:17 2022 No.17111681
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>>17111668
>There's clearly a reason my country is more culturally significant than yours which explains why so many Europeans get butthurt over American culture being different

'They really believe that Europeans are eagerly waiting to hear from them and heed their advice. They took our strategic decision not to discuss their shallow culture before the war as a sign of admiration.
They cannot believe that there are cultural values that are the result of centuries of historical development, which cannot simply be bought. It was no bad joke when, after the war, they bought the ruins of German castles and moved them stone by stone to the U.S.A. They really thought that they had purchased a piece of national history embodied in stone, and were naive enough to think that mocking laughter from Europe was respect for the wealth that enabled them to buy what their own tradition and culture lacked'.

Anonymous Mon Jul 4 15:22:17 2022 No.17111684

>>17111677
Yes the system of government is culture, but literally everything is culture. You can't name a single thing that exists that hasn't be cultivated by culture. I think it should be very clear that we're talking about a very specific sect of culture here, and not government you fucking swine. I'm talking about how it's different in America to wear a dress shirt when compared to Europe, which is the truth and norms are defined by the culture they reside in, and you're over there like "WELL THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT IS BAD!"

Fucking genius. I'm so glad to be enlightened by your superiority. God I'm so jealous that I don't live in a shit hole country.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 15:24:35 2022 No.17111687 >>17111684 Your government is made of your people, dumbass. They are not a seperate species; they share your mannerisms.

Anonymous Mon Jul 4 15:25:07 2022 No.17111688
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Anyone have a pic of one of the very first meetups? Would have been ~2010.
Bunch of hipsters and a few og tripfags on an NYC rooftop? Low res photo like it was taken on a cheap digital camera.
feeling nostalgic for more innocent times

Anonymous Mon Jul 4 15:27:32 2022 No.17111698

>>17111668
>It's not like I have a say in what my country on that scale does
You literally vote for it, that WAS the entire point of democracy.

Also, your own generals don't think like you, that government and citizens should be differentiated:
'There are no innocent civilians. It is their government and you are fighting a people, you are not trying to fight an armed force anymore. So it doesn't bother me so much to be killing the so-called innocent bystanders'.
- Curtis LeMay, General of the USAF

Anonymous Mon Jul 4 15:29:08 2022 No.17111699

>>17111687
When you have a country as massive as America shit like this is inevitable. Again, I'm not defending American politics, I'm talking about how it's different in America to wear certain kinds of shirts when compared to Europe. Not trying to talk politics, that's not why I'm here.
Truly moronic. You literally can't conversate with a European online without them divulging into how they hate the American government. Me too man, we agree, but that's not why I'm talking to you in the first place you fucking retard.
>>17111698
No, I didn't. Didn't vote. None of the options reflected my views, I disagreed with them all. I think we're kind of on the same page that American politics suck. Again though, that's not why I'm having this conversation. I just wanted to talk about shirts.

Go to /pol/

Anonymous Mon Jul 4 15:32:30 2022 No.17111705
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>>17111699
Culture is the very essence of civilisation, it encompasses government to clothes.
Your government is shit ergo your fashion is shit.

Come on bro, Philosophy 101 here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 15:35:50 2022 No.17111707 >>17111705 Oh it's you, that guy that read Hegel once. Cool. I had a suspicion. Alright, cheerio. I have literally no reason to continue.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 15:36:05 2022 No.17111708 >>17111575 l/r infinite jest reader (evil) will not shut the fuck about bladee shaggycore what listening to parquet courts once will do to a mf cool any one of my friends in hs

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 15:37:37 2022 No.17111712 >>17111707 'I know of no country in which there is so little independence of mind and real freedom of discussion as in America'. - Alexis de Tocqueville, 'De La Démocratie en Amérique'

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 15:39:05 2022 No.17111714 >>17111712 https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/freedom-index-by-country

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 15:42:41 2022 No.17111720 >>17111712 Also that quote is from literally 200 years ago. Very relevant and poignant, so impressive.

Anonymous Mon Jul 4 15:43:31 2022 No.17111722
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>>17111714
Switzerland — 9.11
New Zealand — 9.01
Denmark — 8.98
Estonia — 8.91
Ireland — 8.90
Canada — 8.85
Finland — 8.85
Australia — 8.84
Sweden — 8.83
Luxembourg — 8.80

Would you look at that, nintey percent European in the top ten.

That wasn't even what the quote means, btw. Try thinking a tad bit harder.

Anonymous Mon Jul 4 15:45:26 2022 No.17111724

>>17111722
And America is 15th. Pretty happy about that.
I'm not thinking too hard about what you say at this point because I genuinely don't value your input. I've spoken with you before and you've proven to me that you're literally braindead. I'm closing this thread.

Anonymous Mon Jul 4 15:46:37 2022 No.17111725

>>17111720
>Also that quote is from literally 200 years ago
'I am obliged to confess that I do not regard the abolition of slavery as a means of warding off the struggle of the two races in the Southern states. The Negroes may long remain slaves without complaining; but if they are once raised to the level of freemen, they will soon revolt at being deprived of almost all their civil rights; and as they cannot become the equals of the whites, they will speedily show themselves as enemies'.
- Alexis de Tocqueville, 'De La Démocratie en Amérique'

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 15:48:42 2022 No.17111729 >>17111724 I didn't say it; Alexis de Tocqueville said it. So, go on, think. If you don't, you literally prove him correct.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 16:50:15 2022 No.17111805 >>17111575 So this is it, huh. 2022 "fashion" is fucken printed Ts, basketball shorts and hiking shoes. Who is responsible for this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 17:07:52 2022 No.17111843 >>17111722 >Australia — 8.84 After covid concentration camps and forced detention?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 18:01:29 2022 No.17111929 >>17111575 what a bunch of whitoid cucks

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 18:02:20 2022 No.17111933 Notice how none of them aren’t wearing Jordan’s

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 18:15:05 2022 No.17111955 >>17111575 why do i still come to this website?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 21:25:18 2022 No.17112209 >>17111630 kek brutal

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 22:03:47 2022 No.17112242 >>17111622 What are you talking about? That white t shirt is hilarious.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 22:08:30 2022 No.17112246 File: 1.99 MB, 213x243, bqtITjW.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17111668 >American culture

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 22:11:11 2022 No.17112247 >>17111622 You made the mistake of thinking anyone on here actually has any sense of style or fashion.

Anonymous Mon Jul 4 22:24:31 2022 No.17112266
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This is the first time I have browsed this board in years. I entered this thread because I thought it was going to be a humour thread. Everyone is taking this picture seriously and even defending some of these outfits/bodies. Do you people acctually look like this? Their outfits don't matter they all look frail, sickly or disabled. No clothes will fix this, if they were handsome or in Good shape they still could only wear half the items shown.
Please for the love of God if you are reading this work out, you could dress these guys anything and they would still look like a Meetup for autism awareness.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 22:26:24 2022 No.17112271 >>17111575 very cool guys

Anonymous Mon Jul 4 22:41:55 2022 No.17112288

>>17111622
> How come at every /fa/ meetup everyone is typically wearing the most basic shit?

Have you seen the WAYWT threads? No one here knows shit about fashion. It's just a board for people who have no followers or friends on other platforms to post their every day wear.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 22:54:17 2022 No.17112298 >>17112288 gotta agree on the WAYWT threads..really gone downhill since I first started lurking >inb4 old, 'back in my day' jokes

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 23:17:18 2022 No.17112326 >>17111575 beige guy looks straight out of 1905

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 23:17:48 2022 No.17112328 >>17111575 ID on blue shirt guy's pants and shoes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 23:20:16 2022 No.17112333 File: 5 KB, 200x202, 98765432.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17111575 Is it true that during one of the meetups someone brought semen dipped donuts for the group kek?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 23:31:08 2022 No.17112345 >>17111624 >wearing a dress-shirt, to go to a diner A diner? Like a crappy place you'd get breakfast or something soaked in grease? Yeah that wouldn't be my first choice of clothes

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 23:32:08 2022 No.17112346 >>17111729 who expected talking about dress shirts would turn into europeans being retarded talking about how US gov't bad to philosophy and how america is not free. >>/pol/ is where you folk belong because no one cares

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 23:39:40 2022 No.17112355 >>17111625 which one of these is you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 23:50:14 2022 No.17112367 Can we not let stupid side conversations subtract from how these "fits" are literally just throwing on a shirt and pair of pants from the closet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 4 23:53:52 2022 No.17112368 >>17111575 Proof? This looks like a teenagers virgin incel antifa robot meetup.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 00:15:35 2022 No.17112399 >>17111622 Everyone who used this board and knew anything about fashion left a long time ago and probably moved on from fashion overall.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 00:50:21 2022 No.17112435 >>17111631 >>17111656 once you get a job you'll realize dress shirts aren't formal, even here

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 02:37:47 2022 No.17112528 somehow still dressed better than the majority of bostonians

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:05:13 2022 No.17112563 >>17112435 It is if you're hanging out with friends and you know that's different. Yeah of course wearing a button up shirt for work isn't formal, but it is if you're doing basically anything else.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:14:59 2022 No.17112573 File: 139 KB, 960x960, 3174635-4ri80.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Am I really gonna have to be the one to say it...

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:26:36 2022 No.17112589

>>17112563
Not trying to be dismissive, but what exactly is "normal" for a meetup of people from a dying online fashion forum on a dying website? I don't think there are really established rules for what's "weird" to wear to something like that, and given that it's a meetup of people from a fashion forum, personally I'd expect at least a couple people to come wearing something more adventurous (or even just well put together) than this.

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:38:55 2022 No.17112605

>>17112589
When I was talking to that guy earlier today in this thread he was just annoying me, I don't think wearing a button up shirt would be "too formal," but he has a weird perception. I've talked to him in other threads before and he genuinely thinks everyone should wear suits and button ups every day. To be fair though, wearing the type of button up he's implying one should wear on a day-to-day basis would be autistic here in America to wear when hanging out with friends.
I agree though, the guys in the meet up could've tried a bit more and it wouldn't have been weird at all for one of them to wear a button up shirt if that's their style. It would be weird if they dressed the way that guy wants them to dress.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 03:55:10 2022 No.17112617 File: 309 KB, 217x857, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17111575 weird stance but pretty good overall, best color choice in the group by far

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 04:02:21 2022 No.17112632 >>17111575 >meetup for the "fashion" board >half of the attendees are wearing graphic tees even the australian one wasn't this bad

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 04:14:00 2022 No.17112641 >>17111843 yes, even after that, that shithole is STILL more free than the US.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 04:23:14 2022 No.17112647 >this is fashionable now Literally how incels dressed from 2010-2019. How do incels dress now?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 06:45:39 2022 No.17112796 >>17111712 tips fedora

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 08:14:27 2022 No.17112862 >>17112617 ? none of your clothes fit and you wear autism shoes

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 08:55:51 2022 No.17112901 >>17112617 like ZOINKS scoob

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 10:13:31 2022 No.17112957 >>17112617 you posted the worst dressed one

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 10:51:28 2022 No.17112984 >>17111575 >these are the people giving you fasion advice

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 10:52:51 2022 No.17112987 >>17112617 absolute state of your taste

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 10:57:32 2022 No.17112990 >>17112617 If that dude didn't have the full soi 0% muscle mass feminized gyno physique he would be effay. But his body shape makes me physically ill the guy must consume nothing but mountain dew and cheese doodles

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Anonymous Tue Jul 5 14:38:41 2022 No.17113224

>>17112641
America is 15th in the world, above about 180 different countries including Germany, Italy, Spain, and France.
I feel like people that say America isn't free haven't actually been to America nor do they know any people living in America. I'm by no means a patriot, but to say we aren't living in one of the genuinely most free and prosperous countries on earth is simply ignorant. I genuinely don't know how to make it clear that I'm not an ignorant ass southern American preaching about our freedom and prosperity, but that's actually the truth. America is a great place to live by many metrics while still requiring work in several aspects such as health care, prison reform, and reduction of military spending.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 15:05:12 2022 No.17113269 >>17113224 'In America the majority raises formidable barriers around the liberty of opinion; within these barriers an author may write what he pleases, but woe to him if he goes beyond them'. - Alexis de Tocqueville, 'De La Démocratie en Amérique'

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 15:12:44 2022 No.17113276 >>17113269 Ok, give me an example of this concept in modern America please.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 15:13:45 2022 No.17113277 >>17113269 >>17113276 Also I'm not saying this doesn't happen, this is a core concept in sociology with ingroups and outgroups which is consistent among all cultures, but please go ahead and give me a relevant example.

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 15:16:17 2022 No.17113280
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>>17113276
Try writing a book about fucking lolis and try talk about it in public.

Heck, just try posting loli on Twitter.
The Japanese do it all the time but, if you tried in the Americansphere of Twitter, well, you can guess what happens.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 15:17:36 2022 No.17113281 what drives a man to post catty put-downs about a picture of other men on an anime support group?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 15:19:06 2022 No.17113286 File: 1.00 MB, 1920x800, Dieter_Hellstrom_with_the_King_Kong_cardI.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17113277 >which is consistent among all cultures >every country in the world is the same (id est: like America)

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 15:24:45 2022 No.17113293

>>17113280
Alright, bad example but I'll bite.
This wouldn't be permissible in Europe either. The only place you can actually get away with this is in Japan where the age of consent is much younger and the sexualization of young teens in normalized to a certain extent. Do this in Germany and you'll get shitty reactions as well you fucking dumbshit, this is not specifically an American thing. Give me a better example because apparently you're so fucking smart you should be able to get a better example.
>>17113286
In groups and out groups are consistent among all cultures. Simple reading ability is all I ask. You can find in groups and out groups in populations as small as three people. It's a core concept of sociology.

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 15:27:54 2022 No.17113295

>>17113277
>give me a relevant example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petition_against_age_of_consent_laws

Would Americans ever dare, publicly, protest against the raising of the age of consent to 18 (thereby admiting they maybe want to fuck lolis)?
lol, of course not.

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 15:32:47 2022 No.17113297

>>17113293
>This wouldn't be permissible in Europe either
Wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolita
>The manuscript was turned down, with more or less regret, by Viking, Simon & Schuster, New Directions, Farrar, Straus, and Doubleday (ALL AMERICAN).[32] After these refusals and warnings, he finally resorted to publication in France

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 15:34:52 2022 No.17113299 jesus christ how does this board get worse every time

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 15:35:24 2022 No.17113301

>>17113295
They lowered the age of consent to our age of consent. We now have the same age of consent at the age of 18. Some states allow you to fuck 16 year old here in America.
Are you're only grievances against America that you can't fuck children here? No one wants to fuck you anyway, it doesn't even matter in your case. Do you have any examples of American culture raising barriers, creating in groups and out groups, in which the out group is specifically characterized in a uniquely American way? I'm almost positive there are examples of this happening, but please Mr. "I read Hagel once", give me an example unrelated to having sex with children.
>>17113297
Culturally speaking, in the west it isn't permissible to depict children in a sexual light. Can we stop pointing out examples of sexualizing children? You can do this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 15:37:08 2022 No.17113302 >>17113301 >They lowered the age of consent to our age of consent That's not what the petition was, you fucking idiot. The petition was against ANY age of consent. Fucking read.

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 15:38:29 2022 No.17113306

>>17113302
WHY THE FUCK IS YOUR PRIME EXAMPLE ABOUT HAVING SEX WITH CHILDREN? GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF OUT GROUPING IN WHICH THE OUT GROUP IS UNIQUELY AMERICAN WHERE THE CORE CONCEPT DOES NOT INVOLVE HAVING SEX WITH CHILDREN. THERE IS NO WAY YOU ARE THIS INCAPABLE.

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 15:39:01 2022 No.17113308

>>17113301
>Culturally speaking, in the west it isn't permissible to depict children in a sexual light
In the English speaking West, you mong. Go look at the European threads in /int/ from time to time, they'll often post loli as well.
Of course, the eternal Anglo applies his morals to the entire planet earth.

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 15:40:17 2022 No.17113311
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>>17113306
>DOES NOT INVOLVE HAVING SEX WITH CHILDREN
'In America the majority raises formidable barriers around the liberty of opinion; within these barriers an author may write what he pleases, but woe to him if he goes beyond them'.
- Alexis de Tocqueville, 'De La Démocratie en Amérique'

Thanks for proving him right.

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 15:41:14 2022 No.17113313

>>17113308
Yeah man, there are Americans who like loli as well, that isn't unique. That's definitely a thing here in America and I'm almost positive it's a similar population.
Once again, let's stray away from specifically this subject. Your point fall flat if you have only one example, regardless of the subject matter.
>>17113311
I don't give a fuck if you want to have sex with children, I truly don't. I just want a different example. I feel like this is a genuinely bad example that doesn't prove your point.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 15:42:57 2022 No.17113315 >>17113313 Also to that point, this is an incredibly niche subject matter that doesn't really speak to American culture as a whole. Again, this isn't uniquely American. This is truly insane. Is this what I'm doing before class?

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 15:51:06 2022 No.17113323
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>>17113313
'No one talks more passionately about his rights than he who in the depths of his soul doubts whether he has any. By enlisting passion on his side he wants to stifle his reason and its doubts: thus he will acquire a good conscience and with it success among his fellow men'.
- Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche, 'Menschliches, Allzumenschliches: Ein Buch für freie Geister'

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 15:56:07 2022 No.17113329

>>17113323
I'm passionate about you giving me another example that truly speaks to American culture. There are so many examples you could give me its unreal.
If you're so anti American, you surely have to understand how it differs from European/eastern cultures in ways unrelated to this one subject in which you're passionate about. The main point is that this point does not speak to American culture as a whole, and speaks to many different western cultures in tandem. I understand that you're legitimately autistic, not insulting you for your autism, just stating what you said in a previous thread, but you simply can't be this simple and narrow minded.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 15:58:57 2022 No.17113334 >>17113329 >>17113323 Hell, give me an example of one (1) right that those in European cultures enjoy that isn't related to health care or lolis. This should be easy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 16:06:18 2022 No.17113343 >>17113334 'Moving the goalposts is an informal fallacy in which evidence presented in response to a specific claim is dismissed and some other (often greater) evidence is demanded'. You've done this ever since we began. Adieu.

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 16:08:46 2022 No.17113346

>>17113343
So you critique American culture specifically for only it's stance on age of consent? You legitimately have no other grievances of American culture?
I'll put that one to the side regardless of my views. Sure, we have different views on age of consent, whatever. My retort was that it was an incredibly niche thing to criticize us for and that there are an abundance of other flaws in American culture. Please oh wise one, gift me with your critique of American culture.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 16:10:24 2022 No.17113349 File: 342 KB, 430x393, OCD.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17111575 grrrrrrrrr

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 16:13:42 2022 No.17113355

>>17113346
You really can't understand. You've reached your limit with that response; your mind can't go any further.

'Though thou shouldst bray a fool in the mortar, as when a pestle striketh upon sodden barley, his folly would not be taken from him'.
- Proverbs 27:22

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 16:16:31 2022 No.17113359

>>17113355
So basically you critiqued American culture, to which I basically asked why, and then you moved the goal post by making the conversation revolve around lolis and age of consent. Then I tried to reel it all back into critiquing American culture, to which you claim I moved the goal post? I'm moving it back to where it was, and I retorted your argument by saying it isn't uniquely American. My point is objectively valid as views on that subject matter aren't uniquely American and you can find that viewpoint in much of the western world.
All I'm asking is that you give a critique of specifically American culture. It's very simple.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 16:20:23 2022 No.17113363 >>17113359 >and you can find that viewpoint in much of the western world. Did you already forget the French petition to remove age of consent? I'm even going to bother with your dumb arse anymore.

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 16:26:47 2022 No.17113369

>>17113363
That's one example which doesn't represent the whole of European culture as a whole, which only represents the views of those involved in that petition, not representing the views of the French public as a whole as it did not pass. While it may speak to a fundamental aspect of freedom of speech, it does not speak to the issue as to whether the French as a whole agree with what is proposed here. Even if we do assume that this is emblematic of French culture as a whole, this would only be representative of French culture and not European culture, and to justify this point of view being wildly held by Europeans as a whole you would need more evidence than a petition in one country.
Simply put, this petition does not constitute a genuine critique of what would be considered uniquely American culture no matter how you try to spin it. It's actually largely irrelevant if I'm being honest.

Look man, I need to leave in 5 minutes to go to class. If you can't figure a means of critiquing American culture for something unrelated to age of consent and health care then your point is largely dismissed. There are so many things to critique America for other than that, but for whatever reason you've decided to narrow your view to only be conducive in relation to this one specific, niche viewpoint, and I can once again verify that your input isn't actually valuable.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 16:27:33 2022 No.17113372 >>17113369 tl;dr.

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 16:29:00 2022 No.17113374

>>17113372
Oh, I thought you were a scholar. I figured with your reading comprehension it would take you a mere 5 seconds to scurry through my ramblings.
Alright, I'll go ahead and deem your views invaluable and consider myself the winner.
America - 1
Europoors - 0

ggs, I'm going to class now.

Anonymous Tue Jul 5 16:31:04 2022 No.17113376

>>17113374
'Not one of these nobly equipped young men has escaped the restless, exhausting, confusing, debilitating crisis of education. ... He feels that he cannot guide himself, cannot help himself—and then he dives hopelessly into the world of everyday life and daily routine, he is immersed in the most trivial activity possible, and his limbs grow weak and weary'.
- Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzche, 'Gedanken über die Zukunft unserer Bildungsanstalten'

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 16:33:57 2022 No.17113381 >>17112617 What’s going on on the shirt near his dick? Piss? Cum stains?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 16:35:25 2022 No.17113388 >>17111575 nice try, this is actually a meetup from a reddit thread on /r/RegisteredSexOffenders

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 17:44:11 2022 No.17113528 >>17113376 kek how embarassing

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 19:41:37 2022 No.17113736 >>17111575 and somehow none of them are in the least bit /fa/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 20:34:16 2022 No.17113821 File: 4 KB, 300x168, bombburnham.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17112617 he looks like he wants to tell me how to build a bomb

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 22:03:10 2022 No.17113967 Its over

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 5 22:29:46 2022 No.17114019 >>17111575 So... Is this the master race?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 00:34:48 2022 No.17114242 >>17111575 alright but where can i cop that platos cave shirt

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 00:40:14 2022 No.17114250 >>17112647 My thoughts exactly. The absolute state of /fashion/ in current year.

>>	Avocadoes Wed Jul 6 00:52:34 2022 No.17114269 >>17111575 Is this real?im laughing

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 01:06:37 2022 No.17114282 >>17113224 you're below australia, you daft bastard, it's a fucking prison colony.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 01:10:51 2022 No.17114284 >>17114282 I don't know if I understand the relevance considering it hasn't been a prison colony since 1868. A lot of countries still had slaves at that point. Maybe you know more than me and can expand on why this point is relevant.

Sieg heil !NP2jUmGKeo Wed Jul 6 01:54:13 2022 No.17114364

>>17111575
Keep in mind /fa/ isn't fashionable and it's filled with losers. I had to pick up like 3 dudes from the bus stop/subway/their school campus because so many of these fucks didn't have cars or driver's licenses in their late 20s

There was only one chick there who worked at taco bell and ended up fucking 3 of the dudes

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 01:56:32 2022 No.17114369 >>17111575 Why do they all dress like shit? Most of these guys dress like me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 01:57:07 2022 No.17114371 >>17114364 was she cute? it's funny that the only guy here whose facial genetics aren't a disaster is tied for worst dressed/least effort

>>	Sieg heil !NP2jUmGKeo Wed Jul 6 02:12:04 2022 No.17114404 >>17114371 From what I remember she wasn't anything special. But wasn't ugly. Typical average fuck that you'd forget about

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 02:43:38 2022 No.17114469 >>17113280 >”America doesn’t let you express your opinion!!” Yeah kind of true >”for example: I can’t talk about my insatiable pedophilic lust!!” You should kill yourself NOW! Your life served ZERO purpose.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 03:50:43 2022 No.17114571 >>17111575 jesus so the people who post here are even worse looking than the average redditor, that's an accomplishment

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 13:53:54 2022 No.17115032

>>17113276
EZ
Just raise the percentage of blacks in the population vs the percent that commit violent crimes. Raise the fact that the disparity exists even when controlling for income and education. Point out that the homicide rate of black America is on par with Sub Saharan Africa while White America's is closer to Switzerland. Do any of those things in 'polite' society and see how long you last. Or better yet, ask why 2.4% of the population runs close to 100% of the news and entertainment and see if you can keep your job.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 13:55:29 2022 No.17115034 the only guy dressed kind of cool is the guy in all tan what is this from for real though?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 14:58:05 2022 No.17115093 2nd from the right came straight out of a coal mine from the 1920s. wheres the time machine at?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 15:01:32 2022 No.17115099 I'll never again take advice from anyone here, not even children are dressed that badly in yurp

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 15:03:39 2022 No.17115101 >>17111575 guy in the beige is KINO. none of them have nice shoes. :(

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 15:12:41 2022 No.17115105 File: 126 KB, 1000x772, GettyImages-3278169.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17115093 think you need to look at more pictures of people from that time period, nothing about that is old fashioned

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 15:16:43 2022 No.17115112 >>17112435 Sounds like you have a faggy job for richboy fops. I drive a forklift and the only rule is wear leather shoes

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 15:21:58 2022 No.17115123 meh i am working class and wear button up/dress shirts all the time, i don't consider them formal either they were the norm once upon a time. Being working class doesn't mean you have to dress like shit.

Anonymous Wed Jul 6 16:24:31 2022 No.17115187
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>>17112605
>he was just annoying me
'We often contradict an opinion for no other reason than that we do not like the tone in which it is expressed'.
- Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche, 'Menschliches, Allzumenschliches: Ein Buch für freie Geister'

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 16:44:28 2022 No.17115206 >>17111575 They forgot to dress up for the meetup.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 17:40:35 2022 No.17115264 >>17111575 These are the people giving you advice, kek

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 17:45:14 2022 No.17115277 >>17111668 If you call niggerisation a culture sure

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 23:37:58 2022 No.17115861 File: 2.02 MB, 1346x781, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17111575 damn, even compared to early meetups that is utterly sad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 23:42:12 2022 No.17115870 I'm not falling for your bait. This is a meetup for some other thing. None of those people are into fashion at all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 6 23:49:49 2022 No.17115884 File: 212 KB, 960x959, fa-sweden-meetup-2019.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17115861 depends on where it's held

Anonymous Thu Jul 7 00:24:39 2022 No.17115948

>>17112399
This is the correct answer. There are very few exceptions, but if not a complete breakaway, then anyone who's properly made it would at least minimize their posts on here, let alone go to any prospective meetups. This reduction of 4chan use goes for all hobby boards except for /fit/ and maybe /p/.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 7 03:41:40 2022 No.17116181 >>17112617 You can tell that under his clothes he’s very skinny-fat

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 7 03:46:03 2022 No.17116186 File: 266 KB, 990x1500, E6B8624C-304F-4F86-BFFF-42DA2211A742.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17111575 2nd from the right

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 7 04:04:40 2022 No.17116208 >>17115861 the extended neck and d roof had me rollin, thanks anon

Anonymous Thu Jul 7 05:04:28 2022 No.17116277

>>17115187
Do you even think for yourself? Is it only possible for you to communicate using quotes in order to feed your egoism? Are your opinions outside of pedophilia even your own? is it possible for you to even construct an original thought, or are you so entirely reliant on what you've read others say in order to express yourself?
You're clearly reading over my replies because that's a pretty old reply. Kind of a weird and cringe thing to do. It seems I truly did strike a cord.
>>17115032
I think this can be explained through a cultural lens with the understanding that poverty is the underlying issue rather than an actual racial issue, albeit crime is culturally ingrained into the black community on multiple levels. Again though, it's ingrain due to a long history of poverty.
Poor people as a whole commit crimes in urban areas, this is just a fact of modern life regardless of where you live so long as the punishment for crime is just, and race has little to do with it. Modern black people have been raised by people who have experienced overt racism in the workplace, diminishing their ability to gain success and wealth, so therefore its much more likely that a black person is going to be born into a poor culture in which crime is rampant, because again poverty breeds crime. It's a vicious cycle but it seems like its self correcting itself over time as black crime rates drop considering black people have been getting more opportunity through cultural homeostasis.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 7 05:07:58 2022 No.17116282 >>17111625 dahmer and baseball cap?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 7 05:08:52 2022 No.17116284 >>17112399 im still here but i don't post. There comes a time when keeping weight off is much harder than it used to be and nothing looks good on you anymore.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 7 05:10:09 2022 No.17116287 >>17111805 the opposite of wypipo

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 7 05:27:39 2022 No.17116306 >>17116284 How old are you?

Anonymous Thu Jul 7 10:14:45 2022 No.17116541

>>17116277
>I think this can be explained through a cultural lens with the understanding that poverty is the underlying issue rather than an actual racial issue, albeit crime is culturally ingrained into the black community on multiple levels. Again though, it's ingrain due to a long history of poverty.
Why is it then that whites from intergenerationally poor communities commit violent crimes at a lower rate than wealthier blacks?
Why is it that in the pre-civil rights era, when separate but equal was the law of the land, when racism was far worse than it is today, and when poverty was material and not relative (ie. no running water or electricity vs a last generation iphone) did blacks have higher rates of 2-parent households, higher rates labor market participation, higher rates of entrepreneurship, and why did have their rates of home ownership only dropped since the 1960s?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 7 10:17:09 2022 No.17116542 >>17116284 Bullshit Baseline BMR barely drops as you age. You've just become more sedentary and have probably lost muscle as a result which drives your overall energy needs down

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 7 10:18:49 2022 No.17116545 >>17111575 At last 4 of them look like they have some kind of disability.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 7 10:24:49 2022 No.17116549 >>17111622 People asking for advices here are Omegas. They are the Alpha M crowd. The only good advices i'd get here is probably about fragrances.

Anonymous Thu Jul 7 13:36:14 2022 No.17116715

>>17116541
Well not only is it hard to find counter research on these topics, but it's hard to find research on these topics. Not to be that guy, but some sources on that shit would make this discussion easier so that not only can I see the data, but counter research is easier to find with the initial research.
Taking these stats at face value however, I'd still argue there's unseen nuance. An intergenerationally poor white person is not only poor for different reasons, but their race is never a factor when they consider their circumstances, nor when others consider their circumstances. Black people are often told that their circumstance is due to their racial nature, which can be internalized, and therefore potentially justifying certain acts that they themselves already know are wrong. Also they come from a specific type of urban culture in which crime has been partially glorified due to it being a partial necessity, much more so in the past, in order to get by, and over time those who have done crime to get by have succeeded and have been deemed people who the younger generation want to mirror the actions of in order to gain success for themselves, creating a cycle, however this cycle all comes down to the initial discrimination that created the cultural environment for these conditions to be met.
I can't fully explain the phenomenon of why black fathers often leave their kids because that's a very true thing, however I can say that a child will often do as their parents do, or don't do, so maybe these kids grow up without fathers and when parenthood presents itself they do as their fathers do and dip. Maybe due to growing up without a father they aren't mentally prepared to actually take on the tolls of parenthood due to not knowing anything about the dynamic themselves.
Again though, very hard to find studies on this not only because I'm likely not using the right words, but racial studies are notoriously difficult to find through Google.

Anonymous Thu Jul 7 13:38:59 2022 No.17116717

>>17116541
>>17116715
I ran out of characters.
It should also be mentioned that finding a job as a black person is inherently harder due to preconceived notions about their race regardless of whether the employer is racist or not. It's been found that the exact same resume being presented to different companies will get more call backs if the name sounds white. Fewer opportunities when mobility is desired can create an environment in which people lash out to some extent.

Anonymous Thu Jul 7 14:07:39 2022 No.17116763

>>17116715
>Well not only is it hard to find counter research on these topics, but it's hard to find research on these topics.
This is true, and goes back to the original intent of my post which was to highlight that there are things which can't be discussed (or even studied) in polite society. That being said I appreciate your thoughtful responses. I think there's something to the cultural component (some of the smartest people I've met have been African immigrants), though I vehemently disagree with 'racism' as the root cause.
Anyway, to answer your question, a solid overall source on race as a predictor of crime can be found here:
https://randomcriticalanalysis.com/2015/11/16/racial-differences-in-homicide-rates-are-poorly-explained-by-economics/
If you're inclined to dismiss it out of hand I would urge you to look at the data and the methodology first.
He has links in there to published research that backs the idea up as well, so feel free to dig through those (ex. Pratt and Cullen 2005; Land, McCall, and Cohen 1990; Templer and Rushton 2011).
>Black people are often told that their circumstance is due to their racial nature, which can be internalized, and therefore potentially justifying certain acts that they themselves already know are wrong.
I would disagree with this entirely. The narrative for the past decade at least, and ESPECIALLY post 2016 has been that blacks are where they are because whites/the system/etc keeps them down. Ergo when they lash out everyone (yourself seemingly included) is quick to remove their personal agency and place the blame in society's lap
>in order to get by, and over time those who have done crime to get by have succeeded and have been deemed people who the younger generation want to mirror
And yet many others have come out through non-criminal means and they're often disparaged by the people they left behind (armchair psych but probably because they show there is a non-criminal way out that the rest are too lazy to take)
1/?

Anonymous Thu Jul 7 14:22:30 2022 No.17116790

>>17116715
>maybe these kids grow up without fathers and when parenthood presents itself they do as their fathers do and dip. Maybe due to growing up without a father they aren't mentally prepared to actually take on the tolls of parenthood
Again, you're removing the locus of control from the individual. Is it harder to be a father if you've never had one? Undoubtably. But if you want to be a father at all, you'll stick it out once you have a kid and learn as you go.
Slightly related to that, an article discussing the post-Great Society decline of the black community with stats linked throughout
https://www.theburningplatform.com/2020/01/09/black-america-before-lbj-how-the-welfare-state-inadvertently-helped-ruin-black-communities/
Another one, again, stats and studies referenced throughout
https://yourblackworld.net/2013/03/02/the-black-family-is-worse-off-today-than-in-the-1960s-report-shows/
And for the flatline in black home ownership:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnwake/2019/05/16/the-shocking-truth-about-the-u-s-black-homeownership-rate-50-years-after-the-1968-fair-housing-act/?sh=2f43888d63ba
>>17116717
>It should also be mentioned that finding a job as a black person is inherently harder due to preconceived notions about their race
Are they preconcieved notions or are they patterns borne out by data? If you know that people with X background are, on average, less intelligent and more violent, why would you, as a business owner, roll the dice when you can get the same skills from a "known quantity" (ie. not black)

Anonymous Thu Jul 7 14:24:41 2022 No.17116791

>>17116763
Thanks man, this is incredibly thorough. I definitely don't have time to read much of it today, but I favorited it and I'll come back around to it on occasion. If you use a statistic that's relevant and on that page let me know so I can counter it.

The thing is that I don't entirely remove personal agency from black people in this instance, I just think that there are predetermined circumstances that land black people in the situations that they find themselves, most commonly being birthed into it, but also being denied jobs and social mobility due to their race. The way they react is on them as individuals, however I can't say what my reaction would be if I were found in a similar circumstance. The main thing is that personal agency isn't specifically relevant when discussing these issues. I would say on average more people are going to be reactive rather than meditate on their options, so on a larger scale you need to take on a consequential point of view when viewing issues effecting large populous like this, especially considering we aren't able to accurately determine generalized intent of action on the larger scale here.

To be fair with your second point, Occam's razor. People as a whole want the easiest solution. Especially when considering black people are in circumstances in which opportunity is stifled when compared to the opportunity white people have enjoyed, a larger portion of their population is rightfully going to resort to unethical means.

Anonymous Thu Jul 7 14:33:08 2022 No.17116810

>>17116790
Well to elaborate on my father point, it's a kin to when someone is abused they are likely to become an abuser later in life. Or maybe that you become what raised you over time and you'll see it in your actions. I'm sure a lot of black men are fully aware that leaving their family is unethical, but people in general are pretty simple. They were raised without a father figure, and generally not much of a family structure, so they naturally abandon the idea in adulthood. There could be more reasonable explanation such as individual ego issues such as inability to provide due to less opportunity once again. Explanations here are going to be largely individualistic from person to person so it would be hard to pin point a genuine answer to the issue here, but I don't think something biologically within black men makes them prone to leaving their families. I'd actually be curious about black family structures in different parts of the world. Maybe I'll look into that later.

With your second point, you are 100% correct here. Crime and lack of personal responsibility are two things that are clearly rampant in black communities in America. As an employer, why the fuck would you hire a black person? To appease other white people? To not be labeled a racist? This is sound reasoning, but viewing it from the lens that black people were raised by people growing up in an overtly racist era breeds a certain kind of off spring. I hate to repeat myself here, but their parents had less opportunity which forced their kids to grow up under certain conditions, breeding a type of kid that wouldn't otherwise be bred if not for racism in America pre-civil rights.

I've got things I need to get done with my day, so if you have a quick response here just know that I'll have a late response.

Anonymous Thu Jul 7 14:36:21 2022 No.17116816

>>17116810
>>17116763
>>17116791
Oh, before I go, I should point out that removing personal agency doesn't actually remove personal agency in a discussion like this, it just explains the actions of the individual from a non-biased view giving us the ability to view the reactionary actions of the individual from a non-consequential point of view in order to explain their consequential actions. I hope that make sense, it's the best I can do right now, I've only have half my coffee.

Anonymous Thu Jul 7 14:52:11 2022 No.17116836

>>17116791
>most commonly being birthed into it, but also being denied jobs and social mobility due to their race.
And yet, especially recently, major institutions have been tripping over themselves to bring in more black people, going so far as to discriminate against other races (though hopefully the SC will overturn affirmative action later this year). Yet despite this, blacks are still underrepresented in college education, an education gap which carries over directly into hiring.
>a larger portion of their population is rightfully going to resort to unethical means
This is a contradiction in terms. You cannot rightfully resort to unethical means. Not when we're talking homicide and aggravated assault. This isn't Jean Valjean stealing a loaf of bread.
>>17116810
>their parents had less opportunity which forced their kids to grow up under certain conditions, breeding a type of kid that wouldn't otherwise be bred if not for racism in America pre-civil rights.
And yet blacks were better off economically and socially BEFORE civil rights. Almost as if self-reliance on a mass scale (mass scale here being what it always is- the sum of individual choices, many at that time forced by circumstances far worse than those facing blacks today) creates better outcomes for all parties involved.
>>17116816
I see where you're coming from, but I think when you're looking at a cultural and economic decline precipitated by paternalization, its not possible to act as though the environment which you say constrains behaviour is not a direct product of the individuals' diminished view of their own agency.
But anyway, I also need to do actual work. If this thread is still up tonight I'll hop back on. Enjoy your coffee m8

Anonymous Thu Jul 7 16:50:46 2022 No.17116986

>>17116277
>original thought
'The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun'.
- Ecclesiastes 1:9

You Americans need to realise civilisation has existed for over 10,000 years.

Anonymous Fri Jul 8 02:31:18 2022 No.17117861

>>17116836
Generally I agree that affirmative action isn't a means of correcting issues. Poor public schooling in inner cities doesn't exactly produce kids with aspirations, and a larger portion of black kids populate inner city schools. Generally due to funding in lower income areas the schooling is going to be worse, and regardless of current economic band aids black kids often have parents that are products of poverty, who are also products of poverty, who are also products of poverty. In a capitalist society (which I'm in favor of, I'm not advocating for communism) economic upwards mobility is unlikely, even more so for those that are living in poverty.

It's hard to find statistics on whether black people were doing better before civil rights as the link you provided doesn't seem to cover a relevant statistic, but I might be wrong it's fairly expansive. Admittedly though, I'm unable to read the majority of the actual data presented here. I can the idea and can inference some shit out of it, but I don't understand the metrics used in the graphs as I'm uneducated. Regardless, I can't exactly refute your point due to that fact that I only have your word on that issue, and it's extremely hard to find statistics on black success metrics pre-civil rights.

I think we'll agree to disagree in the case of learned paternal absence, as this phenomenon seems pretty clearly to be a learned trait perpetuated by lack of perceived ability to act as a parent due to upbringing. I think their personal agency is lost through cultural normalization of the issue, and it does seem to be multi layered. I'm not saying I take away their personal agency, I'm saying they have psychologically dismissed it.

I'd like to point out that through the source you gave me I noticed that while American born black people have much higher incarceration rates, black immigrants have similar rates to native white people, which I can infer means these issues are largely cultural rather than biological.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 02:32:18 2022 No.17117864 >>17117861 Also, for the record, I'm using reddit spacing due to necessity.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 04:34:08 2022 No.17118060 >>17115884 SEX

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 04:38:33 2022 No.17118067 >>17111575 Dude in the shades mogs

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 05:24:54 2022 No.17118106 At least none of them are trannies or black

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 05:39:43 2022 No.17118123 >>17118106 they all look like their mom dressed them up and forced them to go outside

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 05:56:49 2022 No.17118138 >>17111575 literally none of them look /fa/ they all look like they were dressed by a blind dementia patient with autism

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 06:22:51 2022 No.17118160 Wow what a thread full of garbage conversation. Shout out to goog for providing the back drop for your picture

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 10:33:22 2022 No.17118361 >>17118138 sounds accurate to me

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 10:51:55 2022 No.17118373 >>17111575 literally the worst outfits possible

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 12:53:19 2022 No.17118485 they all need aviatorx.myshopify.com and some stockx. they look like fucking gta npcs.

Anonymous Fri Jul 8 14:21:34 2022 No.17118608
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>>17111575
okay first off i duno what the fuck the dudes all the way to the right and left are doing there. look like tourists from other boards found the meet up. literally nothing fa about them.

other guys are fine but they all need to work on fit and getting their clothes sized and tailored.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 15:59:12 2022 No.17118745 >>17111575 this board is literally shit. none of you have personal style and thats why you come here. at least go on pinterest or some shit...gosh

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 16:01:55 2022 No.17118748 >>17111575 this is what men look like and expect to have perfect, interesting women with awesome outfits. try a little, fellas, would ya?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 16:37:26 2022 No.17118793 >>17111575 Bro first of all these guys need to take a fucking SHOWER. CRING YIKES COPE DILATE (ETC)

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 16:48:29 2022 No.17118814 >>17111575 Weezer?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 20:17:38 2022 No.17119137 File: 59 KB, 183x644, ss (2022-07-08 at 04.17.07).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this man looks like a professional rapist

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 8 20:22:14 2022 No.17119148 looks based

>>	GORILLA !IGORsW/P/E Fri Jul 8 20:23:26 2022 No.17119151 dude looks quite based

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:23:44 2022 No.17120241 File: 191 KB, 900x1200, 1630903021010.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17119137 apparently he gives a mean foot massage

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 12:42:50 2022 No.17120258 File: 149 KB, 1028x675, Village-People.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17118793 YMCA no longer rents rooms the dream has died https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS9OO0S5w2k

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 13:36:41 2022 No.17120332 >>17120258 It's fun to stay at the Y-M-C-A, excellent tune

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 14:29:39 2022 No.17120402 >>17111722 >Canada Lmfao. Oh yeah my family really appreciates the police stopping them while they are outside demanding a what they are doing outside. Dude that list is fucked when we’re these “results” finalized and who the fuck made it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 22:57:32 2022 No.17121227 >>17111575 >These are the “people” calling you not /fa/ Uh-oh

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 23:04:21 2022 No.17121235 >>17111659 US doesn't blow countries because of dictatorships. They invade country for resources (oil, bananas, etc)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 9 23:18:57 2022 No.17121255 >>17112288 >>17112298 Post better fits there then. People like to bitch around the WAYWT thread but none of you has the stones to actually post fits. Pathetic.

Anonymous Sun Jul 10 00:26:27 2022 No.17121333

>>17111699
>No, I didn't. Didn't vote
But you did
Not voting IS functionally the same as voting because it means your choice helped the winner.

If a politician won by like 15 votes, but 100 people didn't vote, that means that those 100 non votes are 100 LESS votes for the losing side which could have helped them win.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 00:47:23 2022 No.17121356 >>17112266 based /fit/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 11:20:54 2022 No.17122029 >>17120241 kek

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 12:17:36 2022 No.17122102 >>17115112 Sounds poor and boring, nice underachievment

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 13:21:18 2022 No.17122162 File: 141 KB, 1400x840, crying laughter.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17111622 >>17111624 >>17111631 >Americans consider wearing a dress shirt as taboo

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 19:11:16 2022 No.17122554 >>17111575 i've seen better /fa/ meet ups at the minions rise of the gru premiere.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 10 19:15:17 2022 No.17122562 >>17111575 So wich one will be the next crowd or school shooter?

Anonymous Mon Jul 11 05:08:26 2022 No.17123379

>>17111575
>fashion meetup
>none of them are fashionable
you'd think that people who spend majority of their spare time shitposting on a fashion forum would atleast put some effort into their appearance. All of these dudes are completely unremarkable at best, and at worst they have no sense of color coordination, proportions or personal style. Remember, everytime someone talks shit on this board this is what they look like.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 11 05:20:05 2022 No.17123385 >>17111575 I'm confused, why do they look so malformed and malnourished, not only that but they are all dressed like the unironically autistic kids in school that have no friends.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 11 05:56:34 2022 No.17123404 >>17115884 Don't tell me that's a /fa/ meet up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 11 20:48:34 2022 No.17124373 >>17120241 Where did you find this? JFL.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 11 22:46:09 2022 No.17124509 >>17111631 >wearing a tucked in shirt is "formal" This is the epitome of nigger culture cannibalizing your common sense

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 11 22:55:25 2022 No.17124516 File: 978 KB, 396x1358, Screen Shot 2022-07-11 at 6.54.50 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17111575 Only one with any sense of style and he looks like he got cancelled for raping skater girls

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 11 23:06:57 2022 No.17124539 File: 53 KB, 500x500, 0B307A64-76A2-4675-87BA-1F26C8E1A930.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17111575 Attention everyone, lift weights

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 12 05:18:56 2022 No.17124896 >>17115861 nice.....

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 12 05:37:40 2022 No.17124904 >>17120241 KEK

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 12 06:32:15 2022 No.17124961 >>17111631 Seethe more.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 12 09:17:38 2022 No.17125129 >>17124516 >Only one with any sense of style

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 12 10:22:45 2022 No.17125169 >>17124516 >Clothes matching hair color Not a good look.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 12 10:22:57 2022 No.17125170 >>17111575 >these are the people who give me fashion advice

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 12 10:28:29 2022 No.17125175 >>17123404 of course not it's actually a /sverigetråden/ meet up

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 12 16:27:52 2022 No.17125550 >>17111624 Lol even wearing the most basic shit and they still fail to pull it off. Barely even look like ppl desu I don't know how thats possible. Look like maybe slightly better than average dressed npc normies and even that is a stretch

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 12 19:09:18 2022 No.17125759 >>17111575 Is this real? It's not, right?

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