/wt/ - watch thread

[Anonymous No.17101660]

Roman numerals edition

Guides and Info:
> Poorfag guide: https://m.imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
> Watch essentials 102: https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV (embed)
> Purchasing used watches: https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2 (embed)
> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE (embed)
> List of space watches: https://pastebin.com/Te6PNzxr (embed)
> /wt/ Pasta: https://pastebin.com/GBLwAm0f (embed)

Should I buy this MVMT / DW / "minimalist" fashion watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

Should I buy this Armani / Michael Kors / mall watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/Sw1FsAn

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand-wound, quartz
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd-time zone
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
> Wrist size or desired watch size

previous: >>17100459

[Anonymous No.17101667]

Bug people only do things to impress others.

[Anonymous No.17101675]

[Anonymous No.17101707]

Was Cartier even popular before 2022? I feel like it went from mall brand to luxury in 3 months after releasing the new tank or something.

[Anonymous No.17101709]

>>17101707
Mall brand? They invented the wristwatch

[Anonymous No.17101714]

Kikou Ibe

[Anonymous No.17101722]

It's so pretty bros

[Anonymous No.17101765]

Can anyone explain what each of the hands does here?

[Anonymous No.17101770]

>>17101765
Date pointer os the loong one pointing to the edge of the dial, the subdial at the top is a 60 minute counter for the chronograph and the day and month, the subdial to the left is the running seconds hand and a 24 hour subdial so yo know if it is day or night, the subdial at the bottom is a 12 hr counter for the chronograph and a moon phase indicator

[Anonymous No.17101771]

>>17101707
Everyone here, on Reddit and other watch forums seemed to fall hard for Cartier in the last six months to a year. The Santos is fugly imo.

[Anonymous No.17101775]

>>17101765
>>17101770
Whoops sorry the top subdial is a 30 minute counter for the chronograph, every thirty minutes the chrono is on the bottom subdial ticks half an hour

[Anonymous No.17101778]

>>17101707
>mall brand
I’m often shocked just how clueless the posters ITT are even after lurking here for years.

[Anonymous No.17101779]

>>17101770
>a 60 minute counter
It only goes to 30

[Anonymous No.17101781]

>>17101770
>24 hour subdial
So they went to extra length just so they could put two hands in one subdial, one of which is completely useless?

[Anonymous No.17101840]

I need it bros

[Anonymous No.17101844]

[Anonymous No.17101858]

Cope, if you must. And you will.

[Anonymous No.17101862]

>>17101722
It is really nice, those crusty hands tho. Would've been perfect new

[Anonymous No.17101866]

>>17101858
Pick one from each tier, /wt/.
>Casio
>Hamilton
>Oris
>Tooter
>Omega
>Rolex
>Patek

[Anonymous No.17101868]

>>17101866
Casio for every tier.

[Anonymous No.17101870]

>>17101866
>No
>Fuck No
>Hell No
>God no
>Oh shit nigga what are you doing
>Rolex
>Moser

[Anonymous No.17101873]

>>17101866
happy to not give that cunt (You)s

>Seiko
>Seiko again (fucking garbage list)
>Frederique Constant
>Mont Blanc
>Cartier
>Harry Winston
>F.P. Journe

Honestly it makes no sense at all if you know about watches.

[Anonymous No.17101878]

>>17101714
fpbp

[Anonymous No.17101882]

Threadly reminder

[Anonymous No.17101885]

>>17101882
Why do you insist on posting the cope version (I mean, apart from your personal need to cope)?

[Anonymous No.17101889]

>>17101844
Why did he do it?

[Anonymous No.17101907]

>>17101707
They have been a known brand with a good history since forever. Plus, new Tank is nice. I should know, I have one.

[Anonymous No.17101916]

>>17101858
>Seiko
>Farer
>Fortis
>GS
>OMEGA
>JLC
>ALS

[Anonymous No.17101920]

>>17101722
no argument here, though i'd wonder at the servicing cost

i think the 'crusty hands' anon mentioned, give it character, but then i'm a bit of a fan of the odd ding and dent

[Anonymous No.17101923]

>>17101907
>They have been a known brand
yes
>with a good history since forever.
oooh, no. Those quartz vermeil Must de Cartier shitters are the reason why Cartier is still working to shake its mallwatch reputation.

[Anonymous No.17101925]

>>17101907
not him, but got any pics ?
it's not that i doubt you, i'm just nosey

[Anonymous No.17101936]

>>17101923
>Those quartz vermeil Must de Cartier shitters are the reason why Cartier is still working to shake its mallwatch reputation.
This. They're getting much better as watchmakers, but they really fucked their reputation in the 70's and 80's.
To rebuild it.
1. they should stop selling anything quartz
2. they should stop selling anything that isn't precious metal

[Anonymous No.17101938]

>>17101923
I have an automatic, negrodamus.

[Anonymous No.17101941]

>>17101925
Here you go, buddy.

[Anonymous No.17101948]

>>17101941
Oh, an entry-level steel shitter (and alongside a cope-Rolex) How disappointing.

You should have just told the thread you have a Tank Louis and refused to post a pic.

[Anonymous No.17101950]

>>17101948
I like it, and quite frankly I don't give a fuck what /wt/ thinks. Post your Casio.

[Anonymous No.17101951]

>>17101941
Man. Imagine if that were the Datejust you actually wanted and the gold Tank you actually wanted.
That would be an awesome pair.

[Anonymous No.17101952]

>>17101951
I'm actually going to attempt to buy a DateJust or a gold Speedy Pro in the next few weeks. I even have a Tudor, so apparently I have the Holy Trinity of cope.

[Anonymous No.17101953]

>>17101941
>Omegay Aqua Terra and a steel Tank
I'm going to call you Entry Level Eddie

[Anonymous No.17101955]

>>17101953
Let's see what you have to offer, Fuckhead Fred

[Anonymous No.17101957]

>>17101955
Touched a sore spot, I see.

[Anonymous No.17101961]

>>17101957
Notice how there is no picture of a watch you own in your post.

[Anonymous No.17101962]

>>17101941
That garbage is literally what >>17101936 is talking about. Steel crap with the Cartier brand name to sell to fat, middle-class, flyover staters.

Cartier whores itself out and waters down its own name by selling such garbage.

[Anonymous No.17101965]

>>17101962
Lol, okay. Like I said, I like it.

[Anonymous No.17101966]

>>17101961
I don't need to post any watch. (Frankly, you don't want me to.) We're talking about your shitters at the moment. What I own is immaterial to the discussion of your entry-level bullshit.
Don't try to deflect. Defend your purchases.

[Anonymous No.17101968]

>>17101941
My secretary was given that exact Cartier for her 50th birthday by her husband! On the bracelet and everything.

[Anonymous No.17101972]

>>17101966
This post is so geh

[Anonymous No.17101973]

>>17101866
Seiko
Seiko Prospex
Junghans
Grand Seiko
Zenith
Credor
F. P. Journe

[Anonymous No.17101976]

>>17101966
Buddy, like I said...I like it. I don't give a fuck whether you like it or not. However, /wt/ shitbirds like yourself never actually own anything to post which is better.
>>17101968
Must be a big bitch

[Anonymous No.17101979]

>>17101976
>Must be a big bitch
Yeah. I mean, it looks much bigger on her than on you. She's still pretty hefty, but she's very good at her job and she keeps the younger girls in line. Her husband jokingly cussed me out at the last company barbecue for getting her into watches. (Of course, he wears a Sub, so it's not like he couldn't have seen it coming, right?)

[Anonymous No.17101987]

>>17101976
>Buddy, like I said...I like it.
Translation: it was the most you could afford.

Don't you fucking lie like that. No one picks a steel Tank. They settle for a steel Tank when they accept that it "kind of" looks like the white gold version.

[Anonymous No.17101999]

>>17101987
I don't like the gold version. It looks like a woman's watch on me. I am going to buy a gold watch in a few weeks, and it's definitely not going to be a Tank. Let's see something from your fine collection

[Anonymous No.17102023]

>>17101999
>I am going to buy a gold watch in a few weeks
No you're not.
Until you have the watch all you have are dreams.
You'll find some reason to be satisfied with your entry-level shit. Stock market or some other excuse.

>Let's see something from your fine collection
Entry-level Eddie still deflecting.

[Anonymous No.17102026]

>>17101999
>Let's see something from your fine collection
OK, here's what I've currently got from the safe.

[Anonymous No.17102034]

imagine posting a picture on 4chan of yourself or something you've paid money for and then having to cope-reply to every troll

[Anonymous No.17102036]

>>17102026
Jesus...what's in the safe?

[Anonymous No.17102047]

>>17102034
Of course, imagine thinking that a picture that is like 3k USD worth is impressive.

[Anonymous No.17102051]

>>17102034
Keanu Reeves, the Devil's Advocate. Keanu a lawyer, gets all turned on by money, power the devil. Then his wife says to him 'you're not the man I married' leaves him. You see the arc? He starts down here and ends up here. Wheres my arc Paulie?

[Anonymous No.17102055]

>>17102036
About 40 other pieces or so. Mostly high-end/complicated. My collection is all over the place. I buy watches like a kid with ADHD.

[Anonymous No.17102064]

>>17101936
THEY HAD A QUITE A FEW VERSIONS OF THE 36 RONDE LAST YEAR AND I JUST NOTICED MY CAPS LOCK IS ON BUT FUCK IT, AND THEY DISCONTINUED THE AUTO 36 WHICH IS REALLY SUCKY FOR ME. REALLY TRIMMED DOWN THE RONDE LINE THIS YEAR

[Anonymous No.17102088]

>>17101858
>Armitron not even on there
I don't have to cope anon

[Anonymous No.17102110]

>>17102088
They make one sort of interesting watch, they were always a cheapo brand and they haven't been relevant in decades

[Anonymous No.17102130]

Which PRX 35mm should I get? I'm torn between Gold, Green, and White.

[Anonymous No.17102134]

>>17102130
I'd get the green one personally.

[Anonymous No.17102136]

>>17102130
What covfef is that? Colombian?

[Anonymous No.17102138]

>>17102130
Blue or green

[Anonymous No.17102139]

>>17101987
>>17102023
Holy shit kys

[Anonymous No.17102149]

>>17102139
Jesus Christ stop queefing, woman.

[Anonymous No.17102150]

would it be a travesty putting a silicone band on this watch?

[Anonymous No.17102152]

>>17102026
Nice reps, chazingtime focusing on other brands than Rolex was the best thing they did in a long time.

[Anonymous No.17102156]

>>17102150
It's a fucking diver, why would you say

[Anonymous No.17102158]

>>17102130
Gold. I have that one and it wears like a budget VC 222

[Anonymous No.17102159]

>>17102156
it seems customary that these watches come with stainless bands

[Anonymous No.17102174]

[Anonymous No.17102175]

>>17102174
1 and 2 are too redondant. Get rid of one.

[Anonymous No.17102176]

>>17102159
It is but how does that preclude you from swapping the bracelet for a silicone strap.

[Anonymous No.17102177]

>>17102175
Maybe just get rid of both and buy a decent looking Rolex instead.

[Anonymous No.17102182]

>>17101675
Couldn’t afford a Sub?

[Anonymous No.17102190]

>>17102177
I was going to say that but I feel like not making people cry today.

[Anonymous No.17102193]

>>17102174
Nice comfy pants and shoes. Have you given up?

[Anonymous No.17102195]

>>17102174
Roman numerals are gayer than Greeks themselves.

[Anonymous No.17102204]

Rate my holy grail

[Anonymous No.17102208]

>>17101866
>>17101858
>Citizen
>Boctok
>Oris
>Tudor
>Omega
>Jaeger LeCoultre
>F.P. Journe

[Anonymous No.17102210]

+ Loro piana on feet

[Anonymous No.17102212]

>>17102204
Can't afford a Rolex?

[Anonymous No.17102213]

>>17102176
it seems like putting a sticker on a ferrari

[Anonymous No.17102214]

>>17102210
>Loro Piana
>Zegna
>Tod's
All kino shoes of the true connoisseur

[Anonymous No.17102216]

>>17102210
put on some socks and get some proper shoes

[Anonymous No.17102233]

>>17102210
Now that’s a manly hand. Would kiss/10

[Anonymous No.17102235]

>>17102204
I love those kind of dials. What do you call them?

[Anonymous No.17102238]

>>17102210
you are a god amongst men

[Anonymous No.17102250]

7 inch wrist here, how will a 38.5mm seiko fit my wrist?

[Anonymous No.17102251]

Any watch cheaper or more accessible than a Rolex is cope because you can’t get a Rolex.
Any watch more expensive or exclusive than a Rolex is overcompensation for having a small penis or a result of parental issues.
Cope. Immediately.

[Anonymous No.17102256]

>>17102250
Purrfectly

[Anonymous No.17102258]

>>17102235
Girly

[Anonymous No.17102268]

Rolex doesn't make a single good looking watch, change my mind

[Anonymous No.17102270]

>>17102268
i completely agree
not even hating

[Anonymous No.17102273]

>>17102268

[Anonymous No.17102299]

>>17102268
>>17102270
Post a tool watch (Rolex only makes tool watches) that you think looks good.

[Anonymous No.17102301]

what is an affordable, entry level rolex watch that can be respected?

[Anonymous No.17102305]

>>17102268

[Anonymous No.17102316]

>>17102305
what would a fox even do with a Roles lmao

[Anonymous No.17102318]

Can I be poor and not hate Rolex?

[Anonymous No.17102323]

>balding
>visible tattoos

Nice """"hobby"""" you guys got here LAWL

[Anonymous No.17102328]

>>17101707
>Was Cartier even popular before 2022?
lol

[Anonymous No.17102333]

>>17102299
now what?
30 years ago all steel Rolex looked great

[Anonymous No.17102351]

>>17102301
124270 Explorer is unironically Rolex’s best, purest model and is also one of their cheapest..

[Anonymous No.17102352]

>>17102316
flex on the other fox and get all the lady fox

[Anonymous No.17102382]

>>17102333
Okay. But what about modern watches? Are there any modern tool watches you think look good?

[Anonymous No.17102388]

Getting this fake patek for free lol

[Anonymous No.17102399]

should i buy this for 7000

[Anonymous No.17102416]

>>17101941
great choices anon :)

[Anonymous No.17102420]

>>17102399
Only if you are black

[Anonymous No.17102428]

>>17102026
Oh, so you're ikarlwatches on Instagram then?

[Anonymous No.17102451]

>>17102235
enamel?

[Anonymous No.17102483]

>>17102399
Fuck no

[Anonymous No.17102530]

>>17102428
>doxxing people
naughty naughty

[Anonymous No.17102534]

Opinions?

[Anonymous No.17102537]

Planning on buying a BB58 in two weeks, currently no AD within 100 miles has any in stock

[Anonymous No.17102539]

>>17102026
Can't afford a Rolex?

[Anonymous No.17102541]

>>17102534
Quartz, into the trash it goes.

[Anonymous No.17102542]

>>17102541
kek I knew

[Anonymous No.17102544]

>>17102537
Buy one used. There are plenty of safe queens for sale for extremely cheap. With hyped pieces like them, everyone rushes to buy one because social media tells them to, then they realize they don't actually like them, and dump them.

[Anonymous No.17102547]

>>17102301
>what is an affordable, entry level rolex watch that can be respected?
None, since it will be obvious you're just trying to get the brand itself.

Don't be the guy with the least Macan talking about being in the "Porsche owners' community".

[Anonymous No.17102548]

>>17102530
Kek, dox would imply anon isn't larping using photos of other people watch collections.

[Anonymous No.17102556]

>>17102537
>Planning on buying a BB58 in two weeks, currently no AD within 100 miles has any in stock
Then ask your AD to call you as soon as they get one. You won't wait long. The hype has long since died down on them. Plus, Tudor isn't like Rolex: they will try to produce as many of the popular pieces as they can.

[Anonymous No.17102562]

>>17102544
I've considered it but this is a special occasion purchase, and I'm willing to pay the premium to get it brand new.
>>17102556
Guess I'm going to have to do that, shame that my two nearest ADs are both in the same shitty chain.

[Anonymous No.17102563]

>>17102548
He is or he isn't. It doesn't actually make much difference since he's anonymous. I'm sure he'll get some fun DMs, though.

[Anonymous No.17102566]

>>17102301
All Rolex are assembled in the same factory, have in-house movement, share the same level of finishing and go through the same process of QC.
The Oyster Perpetual (the cheapest Rolex) has the same movement as the Submariner no date. An 8k€ stainless steel Explorer II has the exact same movement as a 40k€ white gold GMT-Master II.
It's not like IWC where the cheapest models are made with flimsy steel and ETA movement, while the most expensive are made with luxurious material and in-house calibers. Some Rolex are basic and low-key, other are tacky and gaudy. But there are no disgraceful Rolex.

[Anonymous No.17102582]

>>17101941
i'm the original anon who asked for pics and that cartier is a show-stopper

[Anonymous No.17102591]

>>17102582
I miss having low standards.

[Anonymous No.17102601]

What watch fits the Yohji aesthetic ?
Male and Female picks pls
The cartier melted dali one comes to mind

[Anonymous No.17102603]

>>17102601
Who's this ugly slag?

[Anonymous No.17102604]

>>17101660
>Best watch ever made edition

[Anonymous No.17102635]

>>17102204
Hands are not uniformly blued, some surfaces on the movement could do with some other finish than being sandblasted. Dial seems nice though.

[Anonymous No.17102642]

>>17102352
Real foxes flex with a Chesterton.

[Anonymous No.17102663]

Hi /wt/ I want to add something to my watch collection and I want to spend a bit more on this watch. Pic rel is my pick, I don’t want to spend thousands on a Swiss watch, and since Armani is an Italian brand, it’s not too far away from Switzerland. The dial is textured in the Center what I really like, waddaya think?

[Anonymous No.17102670]

>>17101707
They were always popular but the watch "community" always shunned them. Once the market got oversaturated with divers and square watches came back into style they got a boost. The went from 3rd place to 2nd place in Swiss watches.

[Anonymous No.17102674]

>>17102663
While the design may or may not be made in Italy, the quartz AliExpress movement, materials and assembly are all made in China.

[Anonymous No.17102675]

>>17102663
it's $1 garbage for $100, scale to the actual price

[Anonymous No.17102676]

What is your max price fopr a watch? For me it's ~500 bucks. Everything above and I would feel like a tool for spending so much money on a piece of outdated jewelry.
Even 500 bucks is a lot if you think about it.

[Anonymous No.17102680]

>>17102213
That's kind of insulting to Ferraris ngl

[Anonymous No.17102687]

>>17101866
Casio
Stowa
Meistersinger
Nomos
IWC
GO
Lange

[Anonymous No.17102693]

>>17102676
Probably about 10k. That’s like some hurdle in my mind.

[Anonymous No.17102703]

>>17101714
Based. Man I love Gshocks

[Anonymous No.17102706]

>>17102663
You'll get less respect for that than a no name chink brand. At least with the chink watch people will just think your're
Cheap. With this people will think you're completely clueless and status obsessed.

[Anonymous No.17102707]

>>17102676
When I eventually get speedy wouldn't want to spend more than 5k on a decent used one. Besides that, I limit other purchases to 1k

[Anonymous No.17102709]

Anatomy of a /wt/ shitbird
>"AKSHUALLLY you should have bought this because what you have is cope for (insert brand here)"
>"LMAO can't afford a ROLEXROLEXROLEX?"
>"GRAND SOIKO"
>Talks shit, yet never posts watch
>When watch is posted, is either fake of scraped from the internet
Never change/fa/ggots

[Anonymous No.17102710]

Casio gang rise up

[Anonymous No.17102712]

Alright anons, after extensive research I've determined that a 37mm dive watch is ideal for my 6 inch baby wrist (since 36 is slightly too small and 38 feels slightly too bulky). Does a single 37mm diver exist though other than these Rados? No way I'm paying 2k for a powermatic though, I'm confused there's no ETA 2892 equivalent or chronometer spec version. Plus this brand is always shilled by pajeets and Teddy Bulbasaur. Any other options?

[Anonymous No.17102731]

>>17102663
>since Armani is an Italian brand, it’s not too far away from Switzerland.
Not how it works. Armani is a shitter, you are better off buying a Citizen or a Casio or a Seiko.

[Anonymous No.17102738]

>>17102712
1mm up or down isn't that important, case diameter isn't the most important watch measurement anyway, lug to lug is. In general not every watch of the same diameter will 'wear' the same, case profile, thickness, center of gravity, whether the bezel overhangs or not, lug width to case diameter ratio and other proportions all play a role in how a watch sits on a wrist. Also keep in mind that wrists are not one dimensional, some are wider than others while having the same circumference. If possible always try the watch on before you buy it, that way you can see if it actually fits you or not.

[Anonymous No.17102739]

>>17102709
>Didn't post watch
F A G G O T

[Anonymous No.17102740]

>>17102712
Just get the Rado, it's a nice watch. I like the worldtimer version

[Anonymous No.17102741]

>>17102712
Don't get so hung up on case diameter, it's less important than you think. The most important measurement for assessing how a watch is likely to wear is the distance from lug to lug, since that's generally accepted as what makes a watch look too big on a wrist, pic related is a 36mm case but the long lugs make it look bigger. Case thickness is also something to consider, a couple of millimeters can make a massive difference.

[Anonymous No.17102746]

>>17101966
>cryingwojackwearingsmugmask.jpg

[Anonymous No.17102759]

>>17102712
your extensive research made your brain a mush, you're stupid to believe that in 3mm you go from too small to too big, have you ever even worn an actual watch?

[Anonymous No.17102761]

>>17102738
>>17102741
I know, it's simplistic, and I noticed that my 38mm diver has male end links which probably makes it wear bigger. But I mean I'd assume a similarly proportioned diver in a slightly smaller size would suit me better. I don't want any lug overhang so no Nomos for me.
>>17102740
I saw that and it's really cool, a hand wound diver (albeit a world time diver) is a little silly to me though. Maybe if I can find a deal.
>>17102759
I'm wearing a watch right now anon. I wasn't trying to be that serious, I was just looking for a goldilocks size based on noticing yesterday that my 36mm diver felt small and my 38mm diver felt big. I'll still keep wearing both, I'm just a fan of seeking that perfect fit you know?

[Anonymous No.17102765]

>>17102761
forget the case diameter and look into lug to lug sizes and the endlinks, idk where but I've seen some reviews mention the real lug to lug, with endlinks included, that's the most important dimension for finding a watch that fits you

[Anonymous No.17102770]

>>17102761
You’ll be able to get exactly the fit you want if you go off lug to lug measurements instead of case diameter. I’m similar to you in that I’m very picky about there being no lug overhang and I only ever look at lug to lug distance. For example a Seiko Turtle with a massive 45mm case diameter is actually only 47mm lug to lug. For reference a 40mm submariner is also 47mm lug to lug.

[Anonymous No.17102773]

>>17102739
In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Cope...I command you to be gone, shitbird
>The power of Cope compels you

[Anonymous No.17102775]

>>17102761
The best way to determine the 'perfect' watch diameter for you goes like this: wrist width (if you look at it from above) divided by Phi (1.618).

[Anonymous No.17102777]

>>17101675
Bezel sucks
Numbers suck
Real piece of shit

[Anonymous No.17102786]

>>17102182
I think a two-tone explorer is more than a sub

[Anonymous No.17102787]

What is your grail watch? Pic related

[Anonymous No.17102803]

>>17102787
now this is some KANG shit

[Anonymous No.17102810]

>>17102786
The Sub is 8,5k€.
The two tone Explorer is 10,6k€.

[Anonymous No.17102816]

Getting it re-straped & battery

[Anonymous No.17102820]

>>17102787

[Anonymous No.17102826]

>>17102787
40mm rootbeer GMT Master II

[Anonymous No.17102830]

>>17102820
Honestly baffling to me how GS continues to insist on using these dogshit photos or renders or whatever the hell they are to make all their watches look cheap. All the watches on their site look terrible because of it.

[Anonymous No.17102831]

>>17102830
No kidding
They're old school

[Anonymous No.17102838]

>>17102830
>>17102831
That's how literally everyone does it though.

It's pretty much the only way to have anything close to a somewhat objective view of a watch.

[Anonymous No.17102842]

>>17102838
You can show the shitty render, just show some decent actual photos. Patek does it right by making their watches look like erotica.

[Anonymous No.17102843]

>>17102842
Even Omega does a much better job.

[Anonymous No.17102849]

>>17102830
All brands use 3D renders, including the most prestigious ones (even fucking Patek does it).
I hate this. It gives you zero clue of how the light reflects on the watch.

[Anonymous No.17102878]

>>17102849
Looks like a tin toy on the right.

[Anonymous No.17102882]

Finally got a nato for it

[Anonymous No.17102888]

>>17102773
Entry-level Eddie’s even got a Tooter lmfao!
If he’d just practiced some restraint he could have owned a Rolex !

[Anonymous No.17102891]

>>17102604
>screws dont line up
nice china fake

[Anonymous No.17102893]

>>17102235
It's ceramic, other similar dials could be porcelain or enamel.

[Anonymous No.17102894]

>>17102816
Based

[Anonymous No.17102895]

>>17102382
No they all look like shit because Rolex makes watches for chinks and arabs now

[Anonymous No.17102900]

>>17102204
>$100,000+ watch
>just sandblast the movement bro
Ebin.

[Anonymous No.17102909]

>>17102878
You know what else look like a tin toy?
Your mom with a trash can on her head.

[Anonymous No.17102910]

>>17102816
Black or brown strap?
Dollars in the brown
Business in the black
Whatdya think?

[Anonymous No.17102912]

>>17102891
I don't care that the screws don't line up on my santos

[Anonymous No.17102916]

Why would someone post themselves on 4chan? Do they like the abuse?

[Anonymous No.17102918]

>>17102910
I had a red responsive strap.
But it broke off with sleeves.
Probably the same with a new strap.
Unravel the flag anyway.

[Anonymous No.17102925]

>>17102916
Truthfully? Yes. Any attention is better than being lonely.

[Anonymous No.17102929]

>>17102604
I think the Panthere is better
Also why is this thread so cartier filled ?

[Anonymous No.17102932]

>>17102787

[Anonymous No.17102935]

>>17102929
>Also why is this thread so cartier filled ?
It’s Pride Month.

[Anonymous No.17102939]

>>17102604
>>17102891
>>17102912
I think the Santos would look better without the screws.
The original model didnt have any. Cartier added them after the Royal Oak was released.

[Anonymous No.17102940]

>>17102935
makes sense.
only guy I know that wears a cartier is my ultragay ex-model boss at the restaurant I work summers at. He wears the Balon in twotone with bracelet

[Anonymous No.17102943]

I own a Mako 2, I like it

[Anonymous No.17102949]

>>17102932
Disgusting.

[Anonymous No.17102955]

>>17102051
you know who had an arc? Noah

[Anonymous No.17102962]

When are thin watches making a comeback?

[Anonymous No.17102963]

>>17102962
Soonish honestly

[Anonymous No.17102965]

It’s happening!

https://youtu.be/tEe2D6DGQbU
https://youtu.be/tEe2D6DGQbU
https://youtu.be/tEe2D6DGQbU

[Anonymous No.17102973]

>>17102962
It’s already starting a little bit. Right now there’s still more of a focus on power reserve among those midtier brands but the upper end is focusing on thinness.

I think the complaints about the Tooter BB Pro thickness are a sign that the market is remembering to consider thickness as a part of the design.

[Anonymous No.17102976]

>>17102939
this makes me uncomfortable

[Anonymous No.17102982]

>pepsi
>coke
>sprite
>rootbeer
>starbucks
>kermit
>cermit
>hulk
>batman
>batgirl
>smurf
>batperson
>tiffany blue
>panda
>reverse panda
>no date sub

[Anonymous No.17102984]

>>17102965
The greatest crossover in cinematic history

[Anonymous No.17102985]

>>17102982
No date sub kinda makes sense at least, I agree the others are cringe

[Anonymous No.17102988]

>>17102982
What is “Things anon can’t afford”?

[Anonymous No.17102990]

>>17102982
What is wrong with no date Sub? Should we start referring to the other more common one as Sub Date?

[Anonymous No.17102993]

>>17102990
precisely

[Anonymous No.17103003]

>>17102982
Juvenile nicknames for juvenile watches.

[Anonymous No.17103011]

Retard question, are there any MECHANICAL alternatives to the traditional balance/escapement? Has any company or person tried to invent the wheel? Specifically new ways of telling time mechanically, not hybrid, not quartz, not electronic, not sundial, just mechanical.

[Anonymous No.17103012]

>>17102990
Submariner, Submariner Date.

[Anonymous No.17103019]

>>17103011
There’s been a few I know Rolex has new escapement in their updated models and there’s of course the omega coaxial. Believe the calbre 400 by oris has one too.

[Anonymous No.17103022]

>>17103011
Omega coaxial

[Anonymous No.17103023]

>>17103011
There are no real fundamental alternatives to the balance and hairspring that come to mind, but the escapement has a laundry list of alternatives, the George Daniels Co-axial, detent escapments, the AP escapement, Breguet's natural escapement, even Grand Seiko has one.

[Anonymous No.17103024]

tell it to me straight /wt/
how does it look?

[Anonymous No.17103026]

>>17103019
Rolex’s Chronergy isn’t really a new escapement. It’s just a refinement of the existing Swiss Lever. They just coined the name in order to take the air out of Omega’s sails.
>oh you’ve got co-axial? Yeah we’ve got Chronergy!

[Anonymous No.17103027]

>>17103024
Looks like you're about to fist someone.

[Anonymous No.17103028]

>>17103024
Borderline too big. Bronze is cope gold.

[Anonymous No.17103034]

>>17103011
I would highly (very highly) recommend watching this lecture by the man himself, where he very accessibly explains the shortcomings of the Swiss lever escapement and his developement of the Co-axial based on the incorporation of the priciples seen in various other escapements. There are two types of watch enthusiasts and the latter have come to know the great George Daniels.

https://youtu.be/0UOU36cJgZY?t=1099

[Anonymous No.17103039]

>>17103019
The guys who designed the Chronergy escapement were inspired by an invention of a guy who worked at Seiko.

[Anonymous No.17103042]

>>17103024
I'd go for a smaller diameter.
I don't like IWC but this one looks good.

[Anonymous No.17103044]

>>17103034
Then you realize that despite all the blustering about co-axial escapements, practically speaking it’s almost meaningless and conveys next to no benefit for the user since any advantages it conveys are counterbalanced by the inconveniences in servicing the movement.

[Anonymous No.17103055]

Anyone got the Sugess zenith in the ali sale? The 37mm el primero is my grail but at 7000 it's in unobtainium territory. This one is 14.5 fucking mm tall but states that without the domed crystal it's only 11mm tall.

[Anonymous No.17103056]

>>17103044
I tend to agree, however this lecture features an overview multiple escapements as well as watchmaking as a whole. My own granular understanding of escapements began with this video, and I wouldn't understate its impact on my taste in watches in general.

[Anonymous No.17103058]

>>17103034
Is there anything that replaces the balance wheel though? Some kind of totally new mechanical part that truly reinvents everything? This was an incredibly interesting video to watch (watched up to 26 minute mark). But I'm really interested in brand new stuff, even if its fundamentally shit and worse than the good old balance/escapement, I'm just intrigued to know.

[Anonymous No.17103060]

>>17103044
That’s not the point though. It’s an engineering exercise. Quartz already existed when coaxial was developed. Daniels wanted to show that there was still space for development in mechanical even if it was no longer the most accurate anymore.

[Anonymous No.17103062]

>>17103055
>Secondary running hour hand
Whyyyyyy

[Anonymous No.17103064]

>>17103058
The only thing I can think of is the Frederique Constant monolithic escapement. You can see its operation here:

https://youtu.be/PBjtEoHnV70?t=260

I've seen it running in real life and it hums virtually faster than the eye can see, truly innovative if a little sterile like most silicon developments. There could be others but even the Girard Perregaux linear spring thing has a balance wheel. There will certainly be more as time goes on.

[Anonymous No.17103071]

>>17102925
Very hard to scroll past such a poignant little note as your post and I'm really sorry that you experience loneliness to the degree that you find the interactions here preferable to being left to your thoughts.
I'm saying this very gently, but you aren't really meant to be on your own since that wasn't the way god designed you, yet i'm guessing since you're here you have yet to make peace with your creator, christ jesus.
You should seriously consider looking into the truth claims of the god who became a man and demonstrated his authority by his life, the fulfilment of thousand year old prophecies and by healing the sick, giving sight to the blind and resurrecting the dead, because if those claims are accurate, they promise a life of peace despite all circumstances, joy unspeakable and an assurance that no matter where you are, you are always standing before the throne of the god who loved you so much he went to the cross for you.

[Anonymous No.17103083]

>>17103071

[Anonymous No.17103087]

>>17103083
What are those numbers?

[Anonymous No.17103097]

>>17103064
Damn! This is exactly what I was interested in. Thanks anon. What an insanely cool idea. By a brand people usually hate on.

[Anonymous No.17103102]

>>17102787
This one. Extremely rare (around 5 are known to exist), paladium/silver alloy hammered case, very finely adjusted.

[Anonymous No.17103103]

>>17103062
They had to mimic the 3 register layout

[Anonymous No.17103105]

>>17103097
Too bad the execution sucks. The technology is fascinating.

[Anonymous No.17103112]

>>17103024
does the bronze have that coating which stops it from tarnishing, or does it allow for the watch to develop that unique look from oxidisation ?

aside from that, does it feel comfortable and were you taking pics at an AD or at home ?

[Anonymous No.17103113]

>>17103087
IQ

[Anonymous No.17103116]

>>17103097
Yeah I was floored when they came out with it since I knew them only as that brand that rips off patek design language.

[Anonymous No.17103118]

>>17103102
Looks like a happy meal toy.

[Anonymous No.17103119]

>>17103112
Nope. It corrodes like every other kind of bronze. The only difference is whether it turns green or brown.

[Anonymous No.17103120]

>>17103112
I believe that is titanium, bronze just oxidizes and turns green.

[Anonymous No.17103125]

>>17103119
>Nope. It corrodes like every other kind of bronze.

that's what i like to hear, after all, what's the point of a bronze watch that doesn't mature into your own little story-piece

oh wait, is 'story-piece' on the verbotten word list ?

[Anonymous No.17103129]

>>17103120
ah, sorry bro, some of the newer bronze watches have a coating on them like for titanium, which stops the metal from developing more dramatic reactions
pic related

[Anonymous No.17103130]

>>17102973
>complaints about the Tooter BB Pro thickness
I was about half of these. Insultingly shit watch.

[Anonymous No.17103133]

>>17103102
Whats the ref. no?

[Anonymous No.17103134]

>>17103039
Interdasting

[Anonymous No.17103136]

>>17103125
Panera I is CuSn8 phosphor bronze. It turns brown-green. The IWC uses aluminum bronze which corrodes much more slowly but also turns into an ugly, blotchy brown-black.

[Anonymous No.17103138]

>>17101966
Lol retard

[Anonymous No.17103139]

>>17103028
>bronze is cope gold
gold is cope taste, bronze is much more understated AND based
>>17103042
can you think of smaller than 39mm bronze case field style or pilot style watches?
>>17103112
no, you either clean it or it forms a patina
it does feel comfy, if a bit heavy
I was at a dealership, went about a week ago with the intention of trying something else, the salesman showed this to me and I didn't like it at first but I kept thinking about it, so I went back

[Anonymous No.17103141]

>>17103136
And there’s Omega’s bronze gold which is technically 9k gold and should be pretty color stable but hasn’t been around long enough to say for sure.

[Anonymous No.17103145]

>>17103139
>can you think of smaller than 39mm bronze case field style or pilot style watches?
Only the 36mm IWC and the 38mm Hamilton Khaki

[Anonymous No.17103147]

>>17103139
>bronze is much more understated
Yes. Seeing some rotting green thing on the wrist is the height of subtlety

[Anonymous No.17103149]

>>17103147
kek

[Anonymous No.17103155]

I swear to fuck you people are making me hate watches more and more.
>muh brand
>thinks quartz is shit
>thinks automatics are shit
Just fucking enjoy watches.

[Anonymous No.17103158]

I'm buying a PD 1701 V3 and there's. Nothing you can do to stop me.

[Anonymous No.17103163]

>>17103158
It's a solid watch
Daily remember to thank chinks for making expensive watchfags seethe as I wear their watches for 1/10 of the price

[Anonymous No.17103165]

>>17103158
>24 hr subdial

[Anonymous No.17103166]

>>17103155
We enjoy watches. We just hate each other and therefore hate each other’s watches.

[Anonymous No.17103169]

>>17103165
Sorry Jean I'm not forking over $30k for something that can be easily stolen off me by a nigger

[Anonymous No.17103171]

>>17103169
30k? A Speedy costs nowhere near that

[Anonymous No.17103180]

>>17103171
>checks price
>$2k-$4k
Fair enough. I do like the look of the speedy and wanna pic up a pagani homage.
While commendable, I'm not going to wear anything that costs me more than $300
Also
>automatic chronometer
I can only imagine how much of a bitch it must be to service that thing

[Anonymous No.17103181]

WHEN WILL ROLEX MAKE A 39MM SUBMARINER??? THEY RELEASED THE EXPLORER IN ITS ORIGINAL SIZE WHY WONT THEY DO THE SAME FOR THE SUB REEEEEEEE
What's taking them so long? I don't want to buy a Tudor BB58 godammit

[Anonymous No.17103185]

>>17103180
meant chronograph

[Anonymous No.17103192]

>>17103181
the latest sub got bigger i would give up hope

[Anonymous No.17103195]

>>17103181
They just increased the sizer on it not long ago, forget about it.

[Anonymous No.17103197]

BlobMaster

[Anonymous No.17103200]

>>17103197
Kino, a dive watch for TRUE professionals

[Anonymous No.17103202]

>>17103181
If it’s any consolation the Supercase Subs wear smaller than the specs. Also, the 41mm version is actually only 40.5mm and they rounded up.

[Anonymous No.17103209]

>>17103011
Zenith replaced a bunch of the traditional parts with one jiggly spindly piece of silicon that oscillates at a high rate.

[Anonymous No.17103212]

>>17103209
Too bad 5hey only made 10 of them and put them in those swiss cheese metal foam cases

[Anonymous No.17103227]

>>17103158
Is there a no date version? Seems a bit silly to go to all that effort of making a homage and then fucking it up.

[Anonymous No.17103231]

>>17103055
Do you know if they do a slightly bigger one?

[Anonymous No.17103233]

>>17103147
>t. has never seen a piece of bride with a uniform patina

[Anonymous No.17103247]

>>17103133
It's written on the dial, 6185-8000.

[Anonymous No.17103249]

>>17103181
It's call the YachtMaster 37 you dummy

[Anonymous No.17103250]

>>17103233
I don't want any patina on my bride thanks

[Anonymous No.17103255]

>>17103249
100m WR and bi-directional bezel and flashy as fuck. Not even close to being the same.

[Anonymous No.17103258]

>>17103233
So your position is that a bright green watch is subtle?

[Anonymous No.17103264]

>>17103255
>100m WR and bi-directional bezel and flashy as fuck.
Be honest, does any of that even matter? You weren't going to take a Submariner diving anyway, and it's a Rolex it's flashy regardless.

[Anonymous No.17103266]

>>17103134
https://watchesbysjx.com/2021/05/rolex-chronergy-analysis.html
It's a bit more complicated than that, Kenji Abe filed the patent but was too late to further develop his work at Seiko (it was at the end of the 70's when the observatory trials were no longer held) and Seiko still uses conventional sizes for it's pallets and club teeth today (it's all about geometry). But he did some important research on the matter that was later picked up by the two guys that are responsible for the Chronergy escapement.
>His findings seemingly forgotten, Abe doubtlessly embarked on his research as part of Seiko’s quest to beat the Swiss at precision mechanical timekeeping. Ironically, Abe’s approach appears to have been recently rediscovered by the Swiss, reemerging in the work of Raphael Cettour-Baron and Alexandre Chiuve at Rolex.
>The escapement invented by the duo has been brought to market as part of Chronergy. Citing Abe’s work, Cettour-Baron and Chiuve experimented with escapement components manufactured with modern technology, rediscovering and adapting the benefits of Abe’s research. The pair have also reaped the advantages of high-frame rate imaging and computer-supported dynamic analysis in their development of the escapement.

[Anonymous No.17103276]

>>17103255
Why would you possibly belive that the sub has 200m water resistance and the yachtmaster with a nearly identical case and crown doesn't?
100m is just marketing

[Anonymous No.17103277]

>>17103266
>sjx
I love that chink

[Anonymous No.17103279]

>>17103264
Yes it does matter. 1. I actually do dive. 2. If you bought a Ferrari with 200 instead of 800 hp you’d still be upset even if you don’t drive 200mph. 3. That platinum bezel is much flashier than the Sub’s black bezel.

[Anonymous No.17103282]

>>17103276
You’re just guessing that the WR is the same though.

[Anonymous No.17103283]

>>17103266
>a regular escapement but canted
wow such innovation

[Anonymous No.17103284]

>>17103283
Still better than Omegay’s fragile and inaccurate cope-axial bullshit

[Anonymous No.17103287]

>>17103282
>identical watches
But this one says it's only 100!

[Anonymous No.17103288]

>>17103249
There aren't many Rolex I strongly dislike. This is one of them.
>no lume bezel
>100m WR
>flashy
>fashiony
>name sounds like something Omega would do
This looks like a Submariner redesigned by Karl Lagerfeld or some other faggot designer. What I hate the most about it is that Rolex put it in the professional range while it's obviously a leasure watch ("Yacht Master").
Truly a disgusting watch. I love Rolex but the Yacht-Master is a shit stain on a beautiful wedding dress. Absolutely terrible. Fuck whoever buys this.

[Anonymous No.17103295]

>>17103287
>This hundred dollar bill only says “ten dollars” on it.
>trust me. It’s the same.

[Anonymous No.17103298]

>>17103288
>t. Has not mastered his yacht

[Anonymous No.17103305]

>>17103298
I’ve mastered the cog, the galleon, even the caravel, but not the yacht

[Anonymous No.17103315]

>>17103258
no

[Anonymous No.17103317]

>>17103181
Chinese and Arabs dont want small watches, so never

[Anonymous No.17103334]

>>17103317
I was reading the Rolexforum thread about the Explorer 36mm announcement the other day. Basically hundreds of obese american boomers complaining about it being too small.
Watches have become larger primarily because of fat americans. Chinks and arabs will buy whatever fat american boomers enjoy.

[Anonymous No.17103346]

>>17103334
Giving way too much credit to fat americans. Chinese will not buy a watch that is smaller that 40mm. Same with japs. Sure a handful get made vut look at every year of the tigeror whatever watch brands like VC makes, they are all 44mm for a reason

[Anonymous No.17103347]

This watch seems versatile, I dress somewhat formal (polo shirts, button ups, nice jeans, and slacks). Is there a problem if I'm wearing colors that might not exactly match the watch like green and shit?

[Anonymous No.17103352]

>>17103346
>Chinese will not buy a watch that is smaller that 40mm. Same with japs.
This. Think about all those JDM Seikos that are all 44mm

[Anonymous No.17103354]

>>17103347
It's fine, that watch goes with anything but a tuxedo
From sandals and a Hawaiian shirt
To jeans and a tshirt
To slacks and a nice sweater
Solar quartz is nice and low maintance and accurate, if you have any interest in an automatic you should also look at the orient kamasu
You can get one for $200 on jomashop
https://www.jomashop.com/orient-mako-iii-watch-ra-aa0002l19b.html

[Anonymous No.17103356]

>>17103283
It isn't about the escapement being canted but rather the ratio of the pallet jewels surface to the club teeth surface and their geometry to maximize the transfer of energy between them.

[Anonymous No.17103357]

>>17103354
Whoops meant to link this one, the forst link has aged looking lume on the hands, this is white
https://www.jomashop.com/orient-kamasu-automatic-blue-dial-mens-watch-ra-aa0004b.html

[Anonymous No.17103377]

why is the W217HM-7BV out of stock everywhere

[Anonymous No.17103380]

>>17103354
My problem isn't the style of clothes moreso the colors of said clothes to watch

[Anonymous No.17103386]

>>17103377
Uh, because Casio don't produce enough of them to satisfy the demand.

[Anonymous No.17103390]

>>17103377
>W217HM-7BV
There's better options mate

[Anonymous No.17103394]

NEW
>>17101660
>>17101660
>>17101660
>>17101660
>>17101660

[Anonymous No.17103396]

>>17103394
I'm a retard
>>17103393
>>17103393
>>17103393
>>17103393
>>17103393

[Anonymous No.17103397]

>>17103394
Retard

[Anonymous No.17103403]

>>17103397
hey fuck you buddy

[Anonymous No.17103429]

>>17103024
Shave.

[Anonymous No.17103437]

>>17103390
such as? i like the inverse

[Anonymous No.17103492]

>>17102712
Does the anchor spin?

[Anonymous No.17103533]

>>17103492
Yes.

[Anonymous No.17103587]

>>17103437
Models

[Anonymous No.17103938]

>>17102195
4chan never disappoints

[Anonymous No.17104425]

>>17102195
>imagine using GAYrabic numberals

[Anonymous No.17104950]

Am I a retarded manchild or are these fucking beautiful?

[Anonymous No.17105031]

>>17104950
the two are not mutually exclusive

[Anonymous No.17105088]

>>17102210
I love those shoes but my feet get sweaty :(