menswear/trad/ivy/prep/sprezzatura - better OP edition

[Anonymous No.17088425]

someone really should come up with a unified tip and sprez pasta for these

/sprez/ pasta:

This thread is for the well dressed man and those seeking to improve their dress by exploring colors, patterns, textures and other styles while appearing more mature, elegant and refined.
>What is “sprezzatura”?
Required viewing: [YouTube] The Truth About Sprezzatura (embed) [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]
Required reading: https://parisiangentleman.co.uk/2017/02/24/how-obsession-with-sprezzatura-can-kill-the-sprezzatura/
>Do I have to be European to wear this style?
Yes absolutely. Some east asian men can also wear this style. Blacks, indians, mutts or any other race definitely can't however. If you are american (even if you're white), please stay away from this style, you'll ruin it.
>How is this different than Trad/Ivy/Prep?
Trad/Ivy/Prep = american cringe shit
Sprezzatura = mediterranean refinement
>Where should I start?
idk buy yourself a nice unstructured sports jacket, grey or cream high waisted trousers and a pair of fine suede shoes.
>Where can I find good inspo to draw from?
just use Google and Instagram for fuck's sake
>Where can I buy these clothes?
same as above, do your own research

[Anonymous No.17088427]

/tip/ pasta:

FORUMS:
http://www.forums.filmnoirbuff.com/https://askandyaboutclothes.com/viewforum.php?id=13
https://www.styleforum.net/forums/classic-menswear.5/
forum/
https://www.reddit.com/r/NavyBlazer/
http://thecurriculum.net/forum/

BLOGS:
American:
http://www.ivy-style.com/
https://oxfordclothbuttondown.com
https://www.saltwaternewengland.com/
http://www.dressdecoded.com/
http://sartorialtalks.com/en/
http://www.fivepointfox.com/

European:
http://thelandlessgentry.blogspot.com/
http://tweedlandthegentlemansclub.blogspot.com/
https://bespokeunit.com/
http://www.manolo.se/
http://claseleganciaydistincion.blogspot.com/

READS/BOOKS/ALBUMS:
https://pastebin.com/JUHD4Hwu (embed)
https://pastebin.com/SMMg3tK9 (embed)
Quick guide to prep: https://www.mreero.com/journal/how-to-dress-like-a-prep
Gentleman's Gazzete info on /TIP/: https://pastebin.com/QrNDDG60 (embed)
The Preppy Handbook: https://issuu.com/fiyero109/docs/toph
Nautical clothing guide: https://epochs.co/features/epochs-guide-to-nautical-clothing?p=nauticalpost
Boat shoe lacing guide: https://blog.sperry.com/stories/style/lacing-guide/
Waxing Barbours: https://www.saltwaternewengland.com/2019/09/waxing-barbour.html
80s Inspo compilation: http://www.ivy-style.com/heres-to-a-preptastic-year-the-1982-prep-for-all-seasons-calendar.html
Inspo albums: https://imgur.com/a/SRKjs, https://imgur.com/a/eEw6B and https://imgur.com/a/XZuwA

[Anonymous No.17088552]

>>17088425
at this point, I'd probably just call it "menswear general" or /mwg/.

[Anonymous No.17088554]

>>17088552
thats the idea. if we cant keep two threads up we should only try to keep one up

[Anonymous No.17088557]

i recently thrifted a CT shirt for £1 just to try it. its a slim fit short sleeve button collared shirt made from lightweight twill which is surprisingly airy. my only gripe is that the chest fit is a hair too narrow for my preference, and i keep running into chest sizes being too narrow for the collar size on myself. should i just make a point of buying classic fits and getting them darted if i want a roomy chest but a narrower waist?

[Anonymous No.17088559]

just FYI actual ivy league people dont wear preppy except for tryhard frat bros (so the 1% of the 1%)
The style is extinct
source:went to harvard in 2012

[Anonymous No.17088561]

>>17088559
does anyone care about any of that? prep is dead, so is ivy, so for the most part is trad. i wear what i wear for my own reasons, not some faggy GG larp.

[Anonymous No.17088609]

>>17088559
I went to Cambridge and nobody wore dark academia

[Anonymous No.17088657]

>>17088425
started dressing like pic related, feels good and people respect you and you get good attention from women. what do you guys think? it is the first time I 'dress' up.

[Anonymous No.17088660]

>>17088425
I have these sort of chino-style shorts, except an inch shorter and in off-white and salmon. Also brown but I never wear those.
Do you guys have any recs for what shoes to wear with them to accomplish a breezy, somewhat sprezz style?
Something brown ideally, a thin leather maybe.
I just want to be able to wear shorts with my linen shirts, right now my best option are a pair of white Chucks and they work okay, just dressing a bit too far down. White tennis shoes like picrel might be ok but I'm in the market for a brown pair of shoes anyway.

inb4
>shorts

[Anonymous No.17088664]

>>17088559
If you go to any college in America and try to look at what the students are wearing it's almost exclusively going to be skinnyfat chinese students wearing gucci fanny packs and nike slips or some lazy american in sweats lol. I never went to an ivy league but I did live in the same city as Yale and they dressed like any other lazy young person

[Anonymous No.17088672]

>>17088660
Also, is there any way to wear low cut shoes like in picrel with socks without it looking terrible? I typically wear low-cut socks and even still, just the bit of sock showing near the ankle makes the feet look goofy for some reason.

[Anonymous No.17088822]

kekek the last general couldn't make it past 60 posts and here you are making it again. pretty pathetic. OP why don't you start posting fits so we can atleast laugh at you till bump limit?
>>17088557
garbage brand desu.
>>17088660
blucher/camp mocs ie quoddy rancourt
>>17088672
nut up and wear white wigwams

[Anonymous No.17088954]

please post more examples with balding guys

[Anonymous No.17089222]

>>17088425
Where do I cop polos like this? No buttons, narrow short sleeves
Don't say pini Parma because I already have 2 pairs from them and I want to vary a little

[Anonymous No.17089358]

I thought blue and white shirts including stripes were supposed to be muh ultimate versatility?

Just tried a blue university stripe OCBD with jeans and it looks like fucking dogshit. Never again.

[Anonymous No.17089439]

>>17088822
i dont disagree desu, i do need to actually drop some money on good shirts but all my money has a habit of fucking off by the time i finally go to spend any of it on myself.

[Anonymous No.17089444]

>>17088822
>he thinks you cant just make the same shit thread over and over again

[Anonymous No.17089490]

I need to get a shirt for a friends wedding. What's the cheapest thing I can get that is decent? Or alternatively, where's someplace I can look for value efficient classic white shirts. I don't really know what would make a difference with these.

[Anonymous No.17089496]

>>17088552
It should be menswear general, it’s just that there are people who only check these threads once a month or two and they will just think that the thread died if you don’t add the keyword in the title.

[Anonymous No.17089513]

>>17089490
Theres that one American brand. The one with the good button down shorts, or so people say. TM Lewin? Spier and Mackay? I can’t quite remember what it’s called

[Anonymous No.17090537]

>>17088822
Good shirt brands?im from Europe. Keep in mind you can get CT for 30€ on sale

[Anonymous No.17090541]

>>17089222
Massimo Dutti? Oh too cheap
Loro Piana it is your excellence

[Anonymous No.17090555]

[Anonymous No.17090913]

Any good suggestions for self tie bow ties ?

As much as I know its best to wear a black tie for dinner wear, I was thinking more a long the lines of an amethyste color or something darker.

[Anonymous No.17091020]

>>17088425

[Anonymous No.17091049]

>>17088425

[Anonymous No.17091071]

>>17088559
Not true. ivy is no longer filled with white people but Asians do try very hard to imitate the ivy style. I think it should be renamed to wasp maybe.

[Anonymous No.17091089]

Polo belts:

I wanted to make a thread about this but my IP address is range banned. Anyways the Argentinian style polo belts became part of the prep look. Also known as gaucho belt. Polo is part of this look. I have been eying a belt for years. It’s been maybe six or seven since it became a thing and maybe five since prince William made it popular.
I looked into it and I found little evidence these belts are made in Argentina. All the distributors have the exact same looks despite all saying they were hand made by their manufacturers in Argentina. Some sites even look like rip off drop ship companies with slick fake stock photos and design. All the companies are US based.
I looked up on Ali baba some belts and found some for like $1 per belt from India that look a lot like what gets sold for $200.
Just wanted to say I have not found any evidence of where these are made in Argentina if they are at all and I can’t even find evidence these ever were a thing in Argentina. I’m happy to be proven wrong since I think it’s cool.

[Anonymous No.17091298]

wearing my horse ass aldens feelsgoodman
>>17091089
schizo

[Anonymous No.17091799]

>>17091089
>Anyways the Argentinian style polo belts became part of the prep look
Pineedle belts are not gaucho belts wtf are you talking about

[Anonymous No.17091867]

>>17088552
>>17088425
>/MWG/
>menswear general

That sounds too generically boring and lacking in style expressiveness or specificity.

Definitely use that name if you really want to forever destroy a wavering /fa/ general.

[Anonymous No.17091869]

>>17088425
>>17088427
>/TIP/ Summer thread
>Winter images

Why are you posting Fall - Winter images for this season, as it's completely and thematically out-of-sync for inspo purposes?!?

[Anonymous No.17091891]

>>17091869
only medfags like summer

[Anonymous No.17092049]

>>17089222
Berg&Berg

[Anonymous No.17092057]

not a tranny but is it okay to wear women's vest? i have wide child bearing hips and small waist so it should fit well.

[Anonymous No.17092075]

>>17092057
U don't have boobs though

[Anonymous No.17092847]

Can I wear a french cuff shirt without a jacket?

[Anonymous No.17092860]

>>17088425
Where can i get that floppy 1930s looking flat cap. Most of them are the newsboy shite these days.

[Anonymous No.17092942]

>>17092860
thomas farthing

>>17092847
for formality reasons no. french cuff is a formal shirt cuff.

[Anonymous No.17092953]

>>17092942
thanks bud, found simon james cathcart too

[Anonymous No.17092983]

>>17089222

Baltazar, Gabucci and Frans Boone.

[Anonymous No.17093010]

Do you guys hem your own trousers?

[Anonymous No.17093154]

>>17088425
>someone really should come up with a unified tip and sprez
Sprezz is not wearing suits retard.

[Anonymous No.17093159]

>>17093010
Sometimes.

[Anonymous No.17093167]

What do you guys think of clip on suspenders?
with lower-rise pants and jeans they're pretty cool to be honest, tab suspenders look kinda pointless on low rise pants if you're a skinny guy IMO

[Anonymous No.17093262]

>>17093159
Do you have a good resource to get started?

[Anonymous No.17093297]

Pants are a bit baggy but I tried this out today and it was comfortable

[Anonymous No.17093300]

>>17093297
4chan rotated the image for some reason, apologies.

[Anonymous No.17093331]

>>17093297
lol delete this garbage while you still can

[Anonymous No.17093439]

>>17093167
they always fail. wore some for work and they lost grip in a couple months.

>>17093297
belts too plain, shoes look cheap, rest is okish. consider a fabric belt.

[Anonymous No.17094094]

>>17093297
pants too long, I don't care for the shirt but that's just my opinion

[Anonymous No.17094656]

>>17092075
those vests make women look flatter anyway
doable

[Anonymous No.17094836]

Any recommendation for core pieces so I can have a better "uniform" that works for most social situations? I'm a traveler and only have a hand luggage for my few clothes, everyday I look like I am wearing the same dirty clothes over and over.

I only own four white shirts with different sleeve lengths, and black/grey/jeans pants. Pic related.

[Anonymous No.17095193]

>>17094836
OCBDs, polos, khaki chinos & slacks, done woallah hey presto mamma mia

[Anonymous No.17095258]

I hope you really don't dress like this.

[Anonymous No.17095266]

>>17095258

[Anonymous No.17095319]

>>17088425
that sweater is killer, what is that style called?

[Anonymous No.17095387]

>>17095319
Some kind of Aran sweater I would guess

[dougdevious.blogspot.com !9hyTED98rg No.17095398]

https://www.ties.com/v/a/alynn-novelty-troll-face-black-tie
i REALLY want this

[Anonymous No.17095550]

>>Do I have to be European to wear this style?
>Yes absolutely. Some east asian men can also wear this style. Blacks, indians, mutts or any other race definitely can't however. If you are american (even if you're white), please stay away from this style, you'll ruin it.
you can judge websites with that by the models they use

[Anonymous No.17096181]

>>17095193
Thanks, anon. Gonna go with light pink and blue shirts, seem to work with many pants.

[Anonymous No.17097399]

>>17088559
>>17091071
27% of the incoming freshman class at Harvard identify as LGBTQ+ and most of the ‘white’ students are Jewish so you’d probably be better off wearing antifa clothes with blue hair if you want to fit in there. Doesn’t sound to exclusive to me. They are more like the loser kids I used to beat up and rob when I was in middle school. If this is the next generation of the American elite then we are definitely losing #1 world power status to China so that’s why I’m currently taking mandarin lessons. I actually got into Harvard partly because I’m black but opted to go to MIT instead. The networking opportunities afforded by Harvard attendance are a shadow of what they once were so I’m going for quality of education only.

https://www.campusreform.org/article?id=19709

[Anonymous No.17097441]

>>17095258
He looks fine, but he took the picture like he's hanging himself

[Anonymous No.17097463]

[Anonymous No.17097482]

[Anonymous No.17097484]

>>17097399
>If this is the next generation of the American elite then we are definitely losing #1 world power status to China so that’s why I’m currently taking mandarin lessons
Bruh, just kill the fucking leftists in America. Problem solved. Imagine learning subhuman chink language, not to mention they're LITERALLY communists.

[Anonymous No.17097493]

>>17097484
>Bruh, just kill
Bruh

[Anonymous No.17097510]

>>17097493
'The Romans never allowed a trouble spot to remain simply to avoid going to war over it, because they knew that wars don't just go away, they are only postponed to someone else's advantage. Therefore, they made war with Philip and Antiochus in Greece, in order not to have to fight them in Italy... They never went by that saying which you constantly hear from the wiseacres of our day, that time heals all things. They trusted rather their own character and prudence — knowing perfectly well that time contains the seeds of all things, good as well as bad'.
- 'De Principatibus (1532)'

Or what, are you calling me a glownigger or something?
You know, you Americans would call your own Founding Fathers glowniggers, if they were alive today.
Imagine what they said back then but today: 'hey guys, let's arm ourselves, form an illegal militia, kill government soldiers and destroy the goverment itself'. You Americans would 100% call the Founding Fathers glowniggers.

[Anonymous No.17097538]

>>17097399
>definitely losing #1 world power status to China
'Chiang [leader of the Republic of China] wrote in his diary in June 1948: "After the fall of Kaifeng our conditions worsened and became more serious. I now realized that the main reason our nation has collapsed, time after time throughout our history, was not because of superior power used by our external enemies, but because of disintegration and rot from within"'.

[Anonymous No.17097855]

remember not to give into shitty emotional bait. take the smart option, always, and never place your life in anothers hands unless you are ok with losing it for nothing.

[Anonymous No.17097936]

>>17097538
It’s cyclical. China is ascendant right now, not collapsing in a rotting phase. I’m not a chinkophile or America hater or anything like that, just trying to deal with the actual reality of what is happening.

[Anonymous No.17097951]

>>17097936
>the actual reality of what is happening
the tide is going out

[Anonymous No.17097952]

>>17097484
>bruh just kill people
Nah I’m good. Just want to survive myself and for me there are more beneficial paths to take in life.
>not to mention they're LITERALLY communists.
Ok retard Sean Hannity boomer. Their current system doesn’t really have anything in common with Marxist doctrine from 100+ years ago, but even if it did, at least they’re not teaching their 5 year olds how to do gay blowjobs and buttfucking like every public school in America is now,

[Anonymous No.17097985]

What do you guys think of green suits?

[Anonymous No.17097993]

>>17089358
OCBDs look better with chinos.

[Anonymous No.17097994]

>>17097985
Just don’t like em sorry. Not in any context not on a boat. Not with a goat. Not in a house and not with a mouse.

[Anonymous No.17098000]

>>17094836
My go-to is a navy blazer, grey chinos, brown Oxford shoes and an OCBD of any color, but my favorite one is light blue.

[Anonymous No.17098254]

>>17097985
I think they can work. My dad wore a dark green suit to his wedding.
He says it was in fashion at the time

[Anonymous No.17098339]

>>17097985

[Anonymous No.17098399]

>>17088559
the guys that made the take ivy book in the 60s were shocked when they went to america and the kids mostly didnt actually dress like that, we know its dead

[Anonymous No.17098515]

>>17098000
sounds awful kek. grey chinos sound stupid, and oxfords are too formal

[Anonymous No.17098607]

>>17088559
>>17088609
>>17088561
>>17088664
>>17097399

too true

[Anonymous No.17098616]

>>17097936
>China is ascendant right now, not collapsing in a rotting phase
It's been rotten since the very beginning.
Look at Chinese history and tell me a time when they weren't ruined by corruption. It happens to this very day.

[Anonymous No.17098694]

>>17095398
Why don't you buy it? Porblem, Devious?

[Anonymous No.17098711]

>>17098607
honestly DA isnt a bad aesthetic, its just its been the aesthetic of choice for retard friendly dramas set in the early 20th century for some time, and that means its corrupted with retardation. even the name "dark academia" is fucking pretentious as fuck, and this is coming from someone who enjoys embodying being a contrarian arsehole and wearing things because they are unpopular. popularity kills everything of worth, because the average person is a fucking cross eyed spastic who cant form a coherent vision of anything beyond whats stuck right in front of them. thanks to this, muted earth tones are things you have to worry about using. thanks to peaky blinders, traditional suiting and flat caps are things you have to worry about incorporating. we are plagued by human fucking locusts, devouring everything of fucking worth in life.

[Anonymous No.17098717]

Where do I cop a polo like the one that Vito used in Mafia 3
I want to embrace my Italo-italian culture

[Anonymous No.17098733]

>>17098607
why would a progressive dress in such a conservative style

[Anonymous No.17098735]

>>17097985
it looks good in a solaro fabric

[Anonymous No.17098744]

What's a good place to get woolen trousers on the cheaper end? Or should I go straight to second hand with that?

[Anonymous No.17098747]

>>17098744
I've had some bookmarked for a while you might like but they don't look as good as those you just linked. https://www.oliveclothing.com/men/legwear/p-oliveunique-20171206-001-chestnut-menswear-volk-wool-trousers-chestnut

[Anonymous No.17098752]

>>17098747
literally the same price

[Anonymous No.17098754]

>>17088425
Hat looks idiotic.

[Anonymous No.17098767]

>>17098744
Wool trousers last a life time there is no reason to go cheap on them. You can always resell them.

[Anonymous No.17098808]

>>17098754
no it looks incredibly based

[Anonymous No.17098813]

>>17088425
idk if this necessarily counts as trad or whatever but I wore this the other day

[Anonymous No.17099126]

>>17098767
not always true. if youre carrying extra weight, particularly in your thighs, any wool will fall apart in no time at all from the chafe. i unfortunately am myself, and for that reason i stick to loose fitting, densely woven cotton twills.

>>17098744
dont ever buy cheap wool, spend money or dont bother. i spend £20 a pair on wool socks, and i get my use out of them.

>>17098813
not really but its not a bad outfit desu, if a bit zoomerish. consider incorporating a proper shirt under that sweater.

[Anonymous No.17099173]

>>17099126
>if youre carrying extra weight, particularly in your thighs, any wool will fall apart in no time at all from the chafe
that must be a lot of weight tho

[Anonymous No.17099213]

How do you deal with scorching summer heat and workwear? I'm starting to feel that it would probably be better to use one set of ligher, and evidently less formal, clothes when commuting to work and then change to another more formal outfit when I get there. How do you do this, /fa/? Do you just sweat it out?

[Anonymous No.17099249]

>>17095258
It's a shitty photo but he looks fine, just old-fashioned. Needs better posture, though.

[Anonymous No.17099286]

>>17098813
Nicely done
Western work wear but elevated

[Anonymous No.17099300]

I’m an American and I just copped these loafers

[Anonymous No.17099305]

>>17099300
And these pants

[Anonymous No.17099306]

>>17099305
And this shirt

[Anonymous No.17099311]

>>17099306
And this shirt

[Anonymous No.17099312]

>>17099300
>>17099305
by chance I did a similar cop today

[Anonymous No.17099317]

>>17099311
and this shirt

[Anonymous No.17099319]

>>17099317
And these linen pants

[Anonymous No.17099321]

>>17099319
And these shorts
AND these kicks

Stay made Europoors. You don’t own any style for yourselves.

[Anonymous No.17099327]

>>17099321
Oh and some Italian denim

[Anonymous No.17099330]

>>17099312
show the pics

[Anonymous No.17099341]

>>17099330
the khakis are identical

[Anonymous No.17099348]

>>17099341
Not quite, these ones:
>>17099305
Are 60% linen, 40% cotton. And a little lighter I think.

Loafers very similar too

[Anonymous No.17099353]

>>17099348
I really wanted to buy linen trousers but I ended up with chinos, the chinos I had were too tight and not enough elegant for my taste.

[Anonymous No.17099364]

>>17099353
I like to toe the line between American and Italian styles.

It’s a fine line and the details really matter.

You can wear loafers, but the toe can’t be too pointed and you need to pick a more traditional color. No rope espadrilles. You can’t wear too much white or too many wheat colors. No hats. Only one European-looking piece at a time.

It’s fun to tie the line. My go-to American shops to get American-European hybrid styles are Velasca for shoes, Suitsupply for trousers/shorts and polos, Club Monaco for linen shirts.

[Anonymous No.17099366]

>>17099353
Suitsupply is a great place to look for linen and linen-blend pants.

Where do you get your stuff?

[Anonymous No.17099378]

>>17099364
Also no sport coats with linen pants.

If I’m wearing a sport coat I keep the rest of the outfit more American-looking. Usually jeans.

[Anonymous No.17099399]

>>17099366
I'm from the EU, I wanted to buy them from Scavini but they finished all their pants in my size. I found my trousers at Natalino and bought their last pair. It's too hard to find low weight trousers in summer.
>>17099364
I prefer lasts with a rounder toe, except if it is a more formal shoe. Also slicker toes on brown shoes look too old for a young man like me.
The loafers are from Septieme Langeur, I currently own 2 Velasca shoes: black derbies and brown suede chukkas (got them on sale).
>>17099378
Why not? There are unlined sport coats in linen, yeah, I get it when you wear linen pants it's too hot for a jacket but some jackets are so light weight you don't even feel them on.

[Anonymous No.17099517]

>>17088657
This looks retarded and makes you look weak

[Anonymous No.17099568]

>>17099399
Oh if you’re from the EU you can get away with linen pants and a sport coat. In America, that will just be considered too try-hard.

Agreed on the slicker toes. I thought about getting some slimmer-toes loafers but they look too old-mannish.

All the brands you listed look great. They’re not even in my radar as an American though. I wonder if their shipping options are any good.

[Anonymous No.17099665]

>>17099321
almost everything you posted looks like slim shit wannabe SEXcore. not sure what you're so proud of. shouldve just bought a few nice things from smedley or berg & berg

[Anonymous No.17099673]

>>17099665
I’m young and fit. That shit is for boring fat 80 year olds with more money than god.

I own a few nice pieces, but there’s no reason to dress head-to-toe in that until you’re an old man.

[Anonymous No.17099675]

>>17099665
wtf is SEXcore?

[Anonymous No.17099682]

>>17099673
weird cope for buying mall trash. you can still return those pieces for a refund
>>17099675
lurk moar

[Anonymous No.17099685]

>>17099682
pictured: based john smedley poster

[Anonymous No.17099696]

>>17099682
A man in his early 30s should not dress like that. It’s that simple.

The places I bought from use top-quality materials and are in the same price range as the brands you listed. They’re just aimed at younger people.

If you want to play dress up pensioner like an autist I’m not sure I can help you…

[Anonymous No.17099703]

>>17099173
10 lbs extra and most of it in the wrong places is all you need

[Anonymous No.17099720]

>>17099305
youre going to look like a kid who wants to be edgy, purely because of the fit. your chosen pieces are fine, but the actual fit of them is childish.

[Anonymous No.17099737]

>>17099720
Because they’re too-tight?

I think it should be obvious, but the models are pretty jacked. I’ve seen some of these pieces on normal young fit people and think they look great.

If the fit sucks, I will obviously return them.

[Anonymous No.17099778]

>>17098747
Olive is dropshipping, forget it

[Anonymous No.17099781]

>>17099665
Americans love consooming
They dont care about the actual product, so stop trying to reason with them

[Anonymous No.17099792]

Anyone have good sportcoat and denim inspo? Ideally more Americana/Ivy than Sprezz

[Anonymous No.17099812]

>>17099781
bro have you seen how europeans dress? they own 400 pairs of loafers in slightly different shades, 200 pairs of pants in slightly different shades of wheat and different materials, and 100 sport coats.

[Anonymous No.17099887]

>>17099696
>SuSu and club monaco use top quality materials
>>17099781
yes he is clearly delusional
>>17099792
japs on instagram

[Anonymous No.17099899]

>>17099887
>japs on instagram
once again japs keeping European tradition alive more than actual europeans.

[Anonymous No.17099938]

>>17099665
Wait. So sexcore is just fit, attractive men dressing well and women find it attractive? Wow… sounds really terrible.

Better put that shit away in favour of your 1970 burgundy cordovan wingtips, baggy brown wool pants and an old man sweater. Maybe an SNS Herning Stark? Or maybe you’d like a nice red and blue houndstooth jacket with big peak lapels. Maybe add a nice flat cap to be ultra “fashionable” too then.

Sorry, no thanks. I like looking good and having sex

[Anonymous No.17099939]

>>17099792
I have some, but be warned my tastes lean heavily into ivy style.

[Anonymous No.17099947]

>>17099887
Bro I own nice clothes. There’s really not that much of a gap between SuSu and other brands.

I also used to be obsessed with materials and durability. Truth is, for the most part you’re probably going to lose something, tear it, spill something on it, or it will simply go out of style before it’s 100% worn out anyway.

I stopped buying top of the line stuff a while ago. It’s a hype machine and a pointless waste of money. Fuck your Aldens, give me Velasca loafers and I won’t feel guilty if they get damaged or go out of style. Fuck your Loro Piana. It’s 4% better than the next thing at 10x the price.

[Anonymous No.17099949]

[Anonymous No.17099952]

>>17099938
this guy be like >>17098658

[Anonymous No.17099953]

[Anonymous No.17099955]

[Anonymous No.17099958]

[Anonymous No.17099961]

[Anonymous No.17099964]

[Anonymous No.17099968]

I'll stop for now, don't want to turn the thread into a photodump.

[Anonymous No.17099989]

>>17099887
>japs on instagram
>>17099939
Very much obliged anons.

[Anonymous No.17100002]

>>17099961
I feel like a blazer that fits just right over a shirt AND a sweater isn't going to look too good without the sweater, especially around the arms

[Anonymous No.17100027]

>>17098000
Interesting, thanks for sharing, anon. I personally wear black chelsea boots, tend to find the other shoes too formal for some occasions.

[Anonymous No.17100034]

>>17100002
In my experience that is true of anything more than those light merino sweaters, you can even see in the picture the jacket looks tight on his arms. A sweater vest is a good way to avoid this issue.

[Anonymous No.17100061]

>>17100034
Yeah I think so, I guess I just prefer more substantial knits
Sweater vests are difficult territory though, easy to look like a prep schoolboy or an old man if your proportions and overall look aren't quite right. I'm probably too short and stubby/stocky for em

[dougdevious.blogspot.com !9hyTED98rg No.17100122]

>>17098694
i have the money, i don't have anything to wear it with just yet, I don't have any dress shirts worth a damn

[Anonymous No.17100172]

>>17100122
we all know you're dirt poor. leave this board again
>>17099947
>>17099938
troll tier/cope logic. keep throwing money away on chinesium slimshit, you'll never look like any of the pics above

[Anonymous No.17100186]

>>17100172
Not clear on the issue. I wear the clothes I like. People think they look good.

You think I should switch over to wearing old man clothes that I don’t like because… some neckbeards think it’s cool to cosplay as an old man?

Sorry, I’d rather wear fashion-forward clothes with plenty good materials that actually flatter me and look good to me.

I’m too lazy to make the meme, but this really calls for an anon standing in the corner saying “they don’t know this is a John Smedley roll neck of only the finest materials. they just keep asking me why I’m wearing a turtleneck”

[Anonymous No.17100214]

>>17100172
Ignore him anon, he's obviously a troll if he namedrops brands he's never touched in pic rel, but is calling Smedley and old man brand

[Anonymous No.17100332]

>>17088425
where to cop sweaters like this? so hard to find...

[Anonymous No.17100567]

>>17100332
take a look at arancrafts

[Anonymous No.17100584]

>>17100567
OOO THANK YOU!

[Anonymous No.17100600]

>>17100584
good shopping fren
if you cop anything nice be sure to post it

[Anonymous No.17100612]

>>17100332
My Orvis black sheep Irish fisherman's sweater has a similar cut (much more brown IRL, don't know why it looks so grey in pictures) but without the roll neck and with different cabling/more of a honeycomb stitch. I find the subtler styling easier to wear but maybe that's just me
>>17100567 is right though or you can just look for Aran/Irish fisherman sweaters on eBay or whatever. I'd avoid a fashion or even a luxury brand's (mis)interpretation of one though

[Anonymous No.17100628]

>>17100612
is this style of sweater pr much just irish in nature? i know norwegian sweaters are insanely kino. are there other deep sweater traditions i am unaware of?

[Anonymous No.17100647]

>>17100628
not quite. irish sweaters are known for using a heavier gauge of wool than others, but in basically every coastal town and village across the colder parts of europe there would have been some kind of knitting tradition. the scottish and irish are just the most well known, the scottish for their high quality heritage wool and superb manufacturing, and the irish for their more detailed styles with heavier woollen yarns. note that a traditional fishermans sweater is made with grease in wool. this natural yarn with none of its oil removed protects the wool and keeps you dryer in wetter environments. you will struggle to get a grease in wool sweater however unless you pay someone to make one for you, as i have done.

[Anonymous No.17100660]

>>17100628
i feel like they're probably most famously known as Irish fisherman sweaters or Aran sweaters (from the name of the islands that they allegedly originate from) but i don't think they have a complete claim to them. Cream/white is the more famous/classic colour

>other deep sweater traditions
sure, there's Fairisle sweaters/jumpers which are Scottish in nature
speaking of Scotland, there's also Shetland sweaters which are my personal favourite
traditional Norwegian sweaters ("Setesdalsgenser"?) as you mentioned, but there's also a cult classic reinterpretation/appropriation of them from LL Bean simply called the Norwegian Sweater that was an Ivy staple but doesn't feature the snowflake patterns the original Norwegian template is known for
tennis/cricket sweaters are also a thing but can look a bit larpy
argyle sweaters (including sweater vests, cardigans etc with the pattern) can be cool too but quite dependent on the colours used, the size of the diamond pattern, etc. the wrong combination can look very tryhard and/or 00s terribad

>>17100647
interesting post, how does a legit greased wool sweater feel? is it harder to wear etc?

[Anonymous No.17100666]

>>17100660
im told its not as soft as scrubbed wool, more hairy, and it smells half way like a very clean animal and half like the machines they sort it with. ive not handled it myself as the items still under construction, so i cant really add much to it than that. im essentially paying an internet friend to knit during their off time and during downtime at work, but its also a big fucking project so im hoping itll be done for winter this year. the wool is JC Rennies grease in stuff, its dirt fucking cheap and as good a quality as any NZ wool youll get. heres a swatch of the stuff made up by my friend as a test.

[Anonymous No.17100670]

>>17100666
heres the stuff after his attempts at scrubbing the lanolin out as per manufacturer instructions, you can see its a lot more like what you would expect from a mass market sweater. apparently it is noticably softer and fluffier, with none of the machine oil smell, but no detergent smell either. its slightly lighter in colour.

as for wearing it, i genuinely dont know. im getting a ~1kg shawl collar sweater made, and i hope to be able to wear it with a heavier winter tie and other basic winter staples.

[Anonymous No.17100693]

>>17100666
>>17100670
very nice, one of my aran sweaters was made with unscoured wool so it still has that lanolin smell and it's honestly not that bad. your friend is right about the texture though, it's coarse and robust.
keep us updated on the project

[Anonymous No.17100704]

>>17100693
will do, but i dont expect to hear anything on it til at least august. ive got a lot to do myself this year, and he is quite busy himself.

[Anonymous No.17100781]

How come the least offensive men’s fashion brings out the most virulent know-it-all schizos ?

[Anonymous No.17100797]

[Anonymous No.17101122]

>>17100781
because they think it's fun to LARP/ troll

[Anonymous No.17102029]

im sorry but i would never be caught dead in blue jeans and a blazer

[Anonymous No.17102140]

>>17100214
Looks like you scared him off, good post

[Anonymous No.17102334]

>>17100781
Anything with well defined, strict rules == autist magnet.

[Anonymous No.17102341]

>>17088559
Oddly the only place I've ever encountered where /tip/ is consistently alive is German fraternities.

[Anonymous No.17102504]

anyone have any actually good sprezz inspo? the op is autistically unhelpful.

[Anonymous No.17102552]

okay i modified it a bit, fixed/removed dead links but cant find the non shitpost sprez OP, and older /tip/ OPs have more...

/tip/sprez/
trad/ivy/prep/sprezzatura
This thread is for the well-dressed man and those seeking to improve their dress by exploring colors, patterns, and textures while appearing more mature, elegant and refined.

>What is “Sprezzatura”?
European trad/ivy/prep

>What is "Traditional, Ivy League, Preparatory"
American /sprez/

Required sprezz viewing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QG4lTMjWtY
Required sprezz reading: https://parisiangentleman.co.uk/2017/02/24/how-obsession-with-sprezzatura-can-kill-the-sprezzatura/

FORUMS:
https://forums.filmnoirbuff.com/
https://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/forums/
https://www.styleforum.net/forums/classic-menswear.5/
https://www.reddit.com/r/NavyBlazer/

BLOGS:
American:
https://www.ivy-style.com/
https://www.saltwaternewengland.com/
https://www.fivepointfox.com/

European:
https://thelandlessgentry.blogspot.com/
https://tweedlandthegentlemansclub.blogspot.com/
https://bespokeunit.com/
https://www.manolo.se/
https://claseleganciaydistincion.blogspot.com/

READS/BOOKS/ALBUMS:
fair isle shopping guide: https://pastebin.com/JUHD4Hwu
Shopping guide vol 2: https://pastebin.com/SMMg3tK9
Quick guide to prep: https://www.mreero.com/journal/how-to-dress-like-a-prep
Gentleman's Gazzete info on /TIP/: https://pastebin.com/QrNDDG60
The Preppy Handbook: https://issuu.com/fiyero109/docs/toph
Nautical clothing guide: https://epochs.co/features/epochs-guide-to-nautical-clothing
Boat shoe lacing guide: https://www.sperry.com/en/blog?url=%2F/sperry_us/how-to-tie-sperrys-the-boat-shoe-lacing-guide/
Barbour Waxing Tutorial: https://imgur.com/a/3LwXY9H
80s Inspo compilation: https://imgur.com/a/3pxOtUs
Inspo albums: https://imgur.com/a/SRKjs, https://imgur.com/a/eEw6B and https://imgur.com/a/XZuwA

[Anonymous No.17102677]

>>17102552
wtf is wrong with you

[Anonymous No.17102696]

Opinions on classic vs. modern fit for tweed blazers? I generally prefer classic fit, but modern fit looks younger.

[Anonymous No.17102793]

>>17102677
>wtf is wrong with you
someone said to fix the OP. all i did really was check all the links and fix what could be fixed.

[Anonymous No.17102863]

>>17088609
I'm at Cambridge now. Past the immature undergraduates, most all self-respecting people dress properly. Social class is alive and well here.

[Anonymous No.17102870]

>>17095258
daniel plainview lookin ass

[Anonymous No.17102885]

>>17088425
I recently coped a nice "Edward" suit by Walker Slater. Literally every third person I met complimented me on the suit.
What are your other recommendations for British tailors who make a fine, modern fitting (not old man) three piece? Scottish tweed is a plus, will settle for Saxon too.

[Anonymous No.17102904]

>>17102696
get higher waisted pants

[Anonymous No.17102915]

I LOVE GURKHAS

[Anonymous No.17103000]

>>17102915
That is not a Gurkha waistband, it's just a tab closure. Very typical for slacks, and the long tab is common in Italian style tailoring.

[Anonymous No.17103299]

>>17093297
speed?

[Anonymous No.17103443]

>>17102552
will make note of this, cheers

>>17102885
god i hate the lapels on that suit, i hate low notch points but thats a piss take

i hope you enjoy it though. i got a fair few compliments when i wore my shawl collar sweater under a black overcoat with a nice tie and shirt, not used to that. i think other guys appreciate the sight of another man putting in a bit of fucking effort in his dress, and secretly want to do so themselves even if practicality and social concerns confines them to denim or tracksuits.

[Anonymous No.17103738]

my armholes aren't especially high, but for some reason they still pinch the hell out of my armpit
how do i fix?
what do i tell my tailor?

[Anonymous No.17103750]

>>17103738
>he doesnt know

[Anonymous No.17103762]

Can someone recommend some good loafers they like

[Anonymous No.17103775]

>>17103750
doesn't know what?
could you not be a smug, self-congratulating asshat whenever anybody asks for advice?
god you're a fucking tool

[Anonymous No.17103779]

>>17103775
bro, don't insult people who try to help you.
armholes can't be redone.

armholes are the thing you need to make sure fits before anything else.

[Anonymous No.17103785]

>>17103779
they were comfortable before the jacket was slimmed, but now that the jacket has been slimmed by my tailor they're no longer comfortable
did i get it too slimmed in the chest?

[Anonymous No.17103795]

>>17103785
if he sewed up the sides then he may have made the armholes smaller under the arms...he should be able to cut out the extra fabric and move the seam a bit lower under the arms

[Anonymous No.17103810]

Just thrifted up picrel. Its 'Dillard's by Racquet Club', 100% wool, and fits like a dream. My question is can I wear it as is or do I have to change the buttons? My style is basically
>Top (not counting tees): white or light blue OCBD
>Bottoms: stonewashed grey jeans/grey chinos/olive chinos
>Shoes: service boots, derbies, and loafers
Its pretty basic and low-key, so I think the gold might be a bit much

[Anonymous No.17103836]

>>17103810
Gold buttons actually make navy blazers more casual, so as long as you personally don't dislike the look, keep 'em.

[Anonymous No.17103849]

>>17103775
go back to twitter retard lol

[Anonymous No.17103897]

>>17103775
Where do you think you are?

[Anonymous No.17103963]

>>17103836
Isn't it a bit LARP-y though? Like is there a way to wear gold buttons without it screaming prep school?

[Anonymous No.17103987]

>>17103963
Wether it suggests prep school larp mostly depends on how young you look, but you can avoid wearing gaudy colours with it, wear high-waisted and creased pants, pocket squares, a vest. These things are more mature and give it more of a refined look than school uniform.

[Anonymous No.17104363]

r8 my recent purchase

[Anonymous No.17104365]

>>17104363

[Anonymous No.17104367]

>>17104365
And I specified a 2" cuff on the pants.

[Anonymous No.17104579]

>>17104363
awfup color

[Anonymous No.17104986]

What do you think about grandad collars? Do they fit this style?
I've never been into them, but I normally like henley style t shirts and long sleeve t shirts. This linen shirt with grandad collar seems like it would look kinda similar to a henley shirt and fit into this style for something a little nicer than a t shirt.
It's from uniqlo.. I'm a broke fat idiot.

[Anonymous No.17105036]

>>17104363
lovely colour, very in keeping with the french mode

[Anonymous No.17105087]

>>17104986
ive never once looked at one and not thought "only a muppet would wear that"

[Anonymous No.17105154]

>>17105087
Yeah.. I've never really been into them.. I don't know, I was just scrolling and saw it and started second guessing it for the first time...
It may be too "Asian" style for me too.. I'm a giant Scandinavian guy. A regular collar is probably better in the long run.

[Anonymous No.17105921]

>>17105154
also that type of collar + linen combo is designed for hot climates and to maximise air flow. it fits sprezz but only a muppet would wear that in scandinavia.

[Anonymous No.17106159]

>>17105921
Sprezz is about dressing however you want. Kill yourself, "muppet".

[Anonymous No.17106440]

>>17106159
>Sprezz is about dressing however you want
get a load of this faggot
bump

[Anonymous No.17106626]

>>17102696
Right looks better, but pants are far too tight

[Anonymous No.17106639]

>>17105921
Maximise air flow sounds pretty good to me, and I hate when fabric touches my collar and top part of the chest, so I'd have the first top two buttons unbuttoned. It was mostly because I saw it could look similar to henley shirts like I said I like. I hate when they're buttoned up all the way.
It's horrifically hot and humid for me here right now... so the idea sounds nice. But grandad collar can look like something I don't like pretty fast I think. Oh well.

And to be honest, you're going on about looking like a muppet. People wearing sprezz style can look like muppets and out of place too. Or like a douche. I like the slightly toned down version of it.

[Anonymous No.17106645]

>>17106440
Post fit
Sage

[Anonymous No.17106751]

>>17106645
based. garbage general

[Anonymous No.17107516]

>>17106645
>>17106751
samefag
fashion fashion
bump

[Anonymous No.17107736]

>>17104363
I do not like the colour,

[Anonymous No.17108636]

Thoughts on Spier and Mackay?
Dipping my toes into menswear and want a 3-season jacket. Picrel looks good, but there are also a few secondhand boglioli wool/silk blends on grailed for the same price that look nice

[Anonymous No.17108640]

>>17108636
Shit I really like this. I might even buy it myself lol

[Anonymous No.17108721]

>>17108640
Kek. Just copped mine. Scarcity mindset is a trip. Also got a lovely green university stripe OCBD.

[Anonymous No.17109388]

https://fuckingyoung.es/streetstyle-pitti-uomo-88-best-of/
good GOD things have gone to shit
wheres the good shit? its all fucking insufferable hipsters!
fucking LOOK at this garbage in picrel!!

[Anonymous No.17109398]

>>17109388
No one is going to stop you from going at the pitti and mogging those hipsters with your tasteful fits that you never post

[Anonymous No.17109810]

>>17109388
I thought soibois and hipsters were gone

[Anonymous No.17110908]

>>17104986
The whole point of that collar style is that you are supposed to wear a detachable collar over top of it. It attaches with a button on the back of the collar.

[Anonymous No.17110934]

>>17088657
Obviously you're joking

[Anonymous No.17111002]

>>17097985
Dark green suits are awesome but will forever be shit on, although no one will be able to provide a good reason why.

[Anonymous No.17111041]

>>17100628
It's a type of cable knit sweater.
Cable knit refers to the extra dense layers of (often cable shaped) knitting that were common on fisherman's sweaters to provide extra warmth on the cold seas. Fisherman's sweaters were generally made of unwashed wool that still has the natural lanolin, which makes it water resistant.

Ireland has the Aran sweater but pretty much any seafaring nation has an equivalent. Danish, Norwegian, Guernsey, and Breton knits are all similar and well-known.

Iceland has a very rich knitwear heritage based around the endemic Icelandic sheep. The wool from Icelandic sheep is warmer, lighter, and more water resistant than most other wool. It's woven into a yarn called lopi, which is still minimally processed and, as such, is distinctively coarse. It doesn't bother me but some people find it too scratchy.

[Anonymous No.17111342]

>>17111041
>It doesn't bother me but some people find it too scratchy.
i find scratchy sweaters weirdly comforting. it feels like real protection. and to you and >>17100647 >>17100660 can you reccomend cleaning and caring tips? i dont wanna spend money just to burn it.

[Anonymous No.17111694]

>>17110908
That looks terrible

[Anonymous No.17111750]

>>17099812
And why that's a good thing.

[Anonymous No.17111753]

>>17111694
Almost all Victorian clothing had detach collars.

[Anonymous No.17111815]

>>17111694
It was actually very useful back then, you could save a lot of money with a detachable collar. If your shirts can get ruined you can put the collar on a new shirt. Your collar is becoming floppy because of too much use? You only change it.

[Anonymous No.17112341]

>>17111694
Well I chose that picture because it clearly showed the inner and outer collar, not because it looked good. But detachable collars were basically standard up to the 1930s.

[Anonymous No.17112378]

R8 the fit lads. The waistcoat and jacket are actually an odd combination but I thought they were close enough to make a bastard 3 piece with. The chain is from an old pocket watch I have. I know it's autistic, I probably wouldn't actually wear it in public, but I wanted to see how it looked

[Anonymous No.17112392]

>>17112378
You look like a bad spaghetti western movie villain

[Anonymous No.17112395]

>>17112378
What the fuck is this vest

[Anonymous No.17112405]

>>17112395
Got it at a vintage shop a little while ago. It's a navy blue wool with some lighter blue trim around the pockets and edges

[Anonymous No.17112425]

Do you all have any advice for fits for a man with male pattern baldness, maybe at NW2 or so? My current fits are all just jeans or cargo shorts and tshirts. My fashion sense never really matured past age 14 and I’m now 29. I want to start looking more like an adult and make my receding hairline less noticeable. I’ve thought about trying to incorporate casual blazers but idk if that would be a good look.

[Anonymous No.17112438]

>>17112405
NGL it's pretty ugly. This could probably be done well but I don't think it was here.

[Anonymous No.17112455]

>>17112438
is there anything specific you don't like or just a general feeling? I'm trying to discern whether it's a difference in taste or something more concrete

[Anonymous No.17112473]

>>17112455
The two-tone parts look weirdly bulky, and so do the armholes despite not having a different fabric. I don't know what these buttons are, but I have them. Four pockets? Plus they're really ugly patch pockets. And they aren't even placed well. The way it's cut looks weird, too. I don't know a lot about the tailoring side of things, but usually the armholes aren't cut like that and there's enough space for a pocket further up. You say wool but it looks like cheap polyester.

[Anonymous No.17112536]

>>17112473
I can blame some of that on my picture taking skills and the angle. The armholes look perfectly normal when worn and the color difference is a lot less jarring. I tried to take a better pic but I'm not sure if it came out any better

[Anonymous No.17112575]

>>17088425

Hat - American Needle (Yojimbo Giants)
Blazer - Jos. A Banks
Shirt - Polo Ralph Lauren
Pants - Dickies 874
Shoes - Land's End

Does it matter too much that these are technically "work" khakis? I just prefer the wider leg, personally

[Anonymous No.17112577]

>>17112575
*Yomiuri Giants, sorry

[Anonymous No.17112616]

>>17112378
You preferably don't want the belt buckle to be visible underneath the waistcoat. So you should either wear higher rise pants, or a longer waistcoat.

Also I think the jacket may be slightly too big or too long but I can't tell.

[Anonymous No.17113047]

>>17112378
Looks pretty good. Nice for a casual outing.
The rules of waiscoats are, however: you don't button the last button and you don't wear belts with them (id est: wear braces/suspenders).

[Anonymous No.17113519]

>>17112575
quite bad. you miss all the details. just a really awful execution of navy blazer and chinos. scrap all the clothes and fix your hair routine

[Anonymous No.17113682]

Hello,

I got accepted in a somewhat reputable school in my country, and I’m looking to purchase my first suit or sport coat.

I’ve been looking over at Drop93, but there are so many cuts and fabrics and colors that I can’t decide what to purchase.

I’m asking you for recommendations : what would be a good starter coat or suit for a 24 years old soon to be young professional ? The first thing many people say is to get a navy or grey suit, but that’s banal and frankly, not very sprezz. I have around 1k€ to spend.

[Anonymous No.17113915]

>>17113682
kek noobs cant be sprezz. get the charcoal suit retard

[Anonymous No.17114308]

>>17113047
yeah I don't have any suspenders right now. I heard it was ok to wear a belt as long as the belt was covered by the waistcoat completely. In this pic I had just gotten dressed and my pants were riding a little lower than usual but typically the belt wouldn't be visible.

>>>17112616
that's just perspective. It fits rather snug actually. And too long is completely relative to how its cut. Personally I'm not a fan of the super short jackets, and that's a vintage one from the 80s or so. which may explain the longer length

[Anonymous No.17114390]

>>17114308
I think what it is, is that the jacket is cut for low rise trousers, and the waistcoat isn't. The label says Simon James Cathcart and they cut everything to go with 1930's style high rise trousers. Look at their website and you'll see what I mean.

[Anonymous No.17114667]

>>17113519
>>17113915
Talk shit, post fit

[Anonymous No.17114670]

Sprezzatura

[Anonymous No.17114672]

>>17099778
First time I've heard of Olive, where do they drop ship from because it looks decent

[Anonymous No.17114676]

>>17112575
obese body first and only impression

[Anonymous No.17114682]

>>17098744
Try Luxire for affordable flannel

[Anonymous No.17114692]

>>17112575
Really not a fan of baseball caps

>>17113682
Learn the basics before going sprezz or you will make a fool out of yourself.Visit your local suitsupply and get a navy or charcoal suit with black captoe oxfords

[Anonymous No.17114702]

>>17099305
where to cop?

[Anonymous No.17114818]

>>17114308
>I heard it was ok to wear a belt as long as the belt was covered by the waistcoat completely
Yes, but it will never happen.

[Anonymous No.17115014]

>>17114692
Imagine un ironically reccing trashy fused suitsupply suits, and black at that.
Lol.
Lmao even.

[Anonymous No.17115118]

>>17115014
They are fine if you are young and just getting started. Go ahead and walk into an interview for your first job with a Kiton suit or similar, you will make a clown out of yourself.

[Anonymous No.17115173]

>>17113682
If you're in EU Cavour is a really good choice for RTW suits/sport coats if you like napolitan style.
Pic related is a safe pick for a first sport coat imo.

[Anonymous No.17115205]

>>17089222
they are called johnny collar polos

[Anonymous No.17115218]

>>17098711
Struth.

[Anonymous No.17115221]

>>17115118
Because young people aren’t allowed to buy a quality product, right ? Fuck buying one suit that will last you a lifetime, you must >CONSOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-

Fuck you boomer gatekeeper.

[Anonymous No.17115229]

>>17115221
imagine talking like this. go back to discord loser
>>17114667
no

[Anonymous No.17115383]

>>17115229
How much more time are you gonna coast off this only picture, larper ?

[Anonymous No.17115588]

>>17115383
Nice projection.

[Anonymous No.17115663]

>>17115221
How fucking stupid are you?
The original question was about a PROFESSIONAL enviroment. If its the first and only suit someone buys it will likely be used for interviews, internships and the first real job.
Suitsupply offers decent quality for the price, I made also good experiences with Lanieri. A simple suit with black oxfords is what you wear for those situations as a young professional, nothing flashy if you aren't in a higher position.

But go ahead and show up for an interview at the big4 with brown john lobb loafers and a tweed jacket. They totally won't laugh their asses off as soon as you leave the room retard

[Anonymous No.17115824]

>>17115663
>they are gonna laugh at your sport coat
literally never happens, get a grip on reality

[Anonymous No.17115841]

>>17115824
>t. doesn't have a job
I laugh about candidates outfits quite alot with coworkers

[Anonymous No.17115863]

>>17115841
where I live it's normal to wear a sport coat instead of a suit

[Anonymous No.17115968]

>>17115863
faggot we are talking about job interviews

[Anonymous No.17116093]

>>17115841
>big 4 recruitment bigwig
>laughs with "coworkers" about random candidates outfits

Why would someone just come into a thread on /fa/ to larp? Get a grip on your life and pass your undergrad first lad.

[Anonymous No.17116316]

>>17115663
>>17115824
the question is why he would go to a job interview in casual clothes in the first place

[Anonymous No.17116352]

>>17116316
because he's interviewing for help desk

[Anonymous No.17116377]

>>17115824
Happens all the time, but depends on the place. If you are applying for any decent front office job and show up dressed like a clown the interview is often times over before it even started

>>17116316
Was just one example that came into my mind. The reaction would be the same if a 20-something with half a baby face shows up wearing a double breasted pinstripe suit

[Anonymous No.17116479]

>>17116377
>wearing a suit/shoes arguably identified by basket weavers online as "elite" or "overpriced"
>show up dressed like a clown

Weird af to die on this hill senpai, if you even realise what you're doing.
I smell poorfag.

[Anonymous No.17116636]

this might be stupid question but what do you guys do for underwear?

[Anonymous No.17116734]

>>17116636
Freeballin’ all day son

[Anonymous No.17117251]

took a punt on a suit maybe one or two sizes too large for me in a thrift store. not the fanciest brand or a flashy cut, but its in a nice pale grey and the fabric seems nice enough. if its only slightly too large i may have a couple ideas on how to get use out of it.

>>17112405
ngl mate thats quite ugly, you got burned

>>17116636
the cheapest cotton trunks i can find outside of primark

[Anonymous No.17117286]

>>17112405
>>17112536
i think that looks cool actually, reminds me of an old wise chinaman vest

[Anonymous No.17117327]

>>17095258
the problem isn't with the outfit, infarct i actually like it, he just needs a haircut and needs to shave.
>>17097985
I think they look pretty neat, especially in an emerald colour, whenever I see examples online it always looks like something is left uncompleted. if you can wear it and accessorise it right it definitely can be great, the right material is detrimental too. Gold and emerald look great together.
>>17098607
DA isn't terrible, but you need to understand that most people wearing it are the problem, its the same reason why vintage suits make you look like a /pol/ gentleman. They chuck on the clothes of the aesthetic and take pictures in their bedroom and suddenly think they look great, you have to have the scenery, the body (you can't be fat and look good in anything that's vintage).

[Anonymous No.17118156]

>>17117327
retard lol

[Anonymous No.17118253]

Fffuck bros I'm wearing a short sleeve linen shirt, with an unlined, unstructured linen jacket, wide fit linen trousers, a straw panama hat with a fuckhuge brim, and tan penny loafers,

and I'm still fucking sweating and overheating even though it's barely 30 C. I'm not gonna make it, I need to go cooler, any tips? Is there a menswear suitable garment that is close to loose flowing robes like in pic related?

[Anonymous No.17118312]

>Luxire cut a reverse pleat that lays flat after providing dimensions of well-fitting trousers and subsequent pattern revision CHALLENGE (DANTE MUST DIE MODE) 2022
this is why India won't ever be a superpower

[Anonymous No.17118319]

>>17118253
she's lovely
who is she?

[Anonymous No.17118425]

how's my work fit looking today?

[Anonymous No.17118438]

>>17097399
This is the dialectic of capitalism and crumbling empires, you guys aint saving shit.

[Anonymous No.17118442]

>>17118253
Where did you buying it ?

Also someone here give me brands a eurofag can buy, or good thrift shop adresses in France.

[Anonymous No.17118460]

>>17118253
1. Lose weight.
2. Stay hydrated.
3. Lose the jacket and wear a long-sleeved shirt - you sweat less if you don't expose your skin to sun, and one layer is better than two.
4. Linen doesn't mean shit if it's woven tightly - show us the weave against a light source, preferably a windows with sun shining on it.

[Anonymous No.17118590]

>>17118442
It's Marks and Spencers
>>17118460
Hope this helps, I think I just might be bad with the heat

[Anonymous No.17118764]

>>17088425
Any idea where2cop this turtleneck sweater ?

And pic related for that matter.

[Anonymous No.17118789]

>>17088425
>menswear/trad/ivy/prep/sprezzatura
Absolutely disgusting. I refuse to post anything else until the euro fags gtfo.

[Anonymous No.17118826]

>>17118789
>I refuse to post anything else
And nothing of value was lost

[Anonymous No.17118886]

>>17118789
>euro fags
why do you think it is the euro fags fault?

[Anonymous No.17119155]

>>17118253
The people who say summer fabrics make menswear comfortable in the heat are right with a caveat; if it's humid and hot literally nothing you wear will make you feel cooler. The only thing you can do in humidity is wear something loose so at least your sweaty clothes aren't sticking to you. You'll still feel hot though.

[Anonymous No.17119167]

>>17098744
shoe id?

[Anonymous No.17119221]

>>17118764
Thats arthur Bealy Berengar.You're welcome.It comes with "grease in"

[Anonymous No.17119241]

this is what i call autismcore

[Anonymous No.17119747]

>>17118425
Looking sharp. Like the tie

[Anonymous No.17119750]

>>17112536
I really like it look.
But holy shit stop keep your cheeto finger off the lens

[Anonymous No.17120374]

Kinda dig this loose overcoat/trench coat but I'm unsure if I could pull it off, nobody around me wears this sort of stuff plus im a 24 y/o student

[Anonymous No.17120380]

>>17120374
>autismcore
if you're a white male in his 30's with long hair you will look homeless/crazy/flasher

but you will be dry (*if it is vented)

[Anonymous No.17120685]

Which RTW suit has the highest armholes?

[Anonymous No.17120696]

What are some good dress shoes that aren’t flashy but look good?
Like something I could wear to church, a funeral, and a wedding?

[Anonymous No.17120755]

>>17120696
Black cap-toe oxfords

[Anonymous No.17121062]

>>17120374
trenchcoats can only be worn by people with broad shoulders and a full chest and back. anyone else looks like a dickhead in them. trenchcoats should not be made below a 44 chest.