watch thread /wt/

[Anonymous No.16009324]

sleaze edition

This thread is about the appreciation of watches and their design, their history, and the engineering and materials that are required to make a functioning timepiece.

Guides:
> Poorfag guide: https://m.imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
> Watch essentials 102: https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV (embed)
> Purchasing used watches: https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2 (embed)
> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE (embed)

Should I buy this MVMT / DW / "minimalist" fashion watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

Should I buy this Armani / Michael Kors / mall watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/Sw1FsAn

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
> Wrist size or desired watch size

Last thread >>16006607

[Anonymous No.16009342]

[Anonymous No.16009353]

Does a leather strap or nato look good on a Datejust?

[Anonymous No.16009354]

Best sports bracelet under 2500? Overseas bracelet is so nice but I don't have 20k to be shilling out for it. Preferably not gold because yuck.

[Anonymous No.16009355]

>>16009353
No

[Anonymous No.16009356]

>>16009353
leather strap? sure. nato? no fucking way

[Anonymous No.16009358]

Since I didn't really got any helpful replies the last thread I'll ask again.

Anyone knows where to get a soft black strap or a metal bracelet for the Casio msg-s200 watch?
It comes on a really stif pink resin strap but I would like something else.

https://sys.4channel.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ozdigitalwatch.com%2Fproducts%2Fcasio-babyg-gms-solar-analog-digital-women-watch-msgs200-4a-pink-msg-s200-4adr this is the watch I have

[Anonymous No.16009360]

>>16009353
strap - yes
nato - hell fucking no

[Anonymous No.16009361]

Hey /fa/. I don't normally come to this board but didn't know where else to ask.
What are your thoughts on pocket watches? I'm into watches and stuff so I bought pic related as a hobbyist and display piece but would actually using a pocket watch make me look a sperg?

[Anonymous No.16009364]

[Anonymous No.16009367]

more like cope general /cog/ AMIRITE?????

[Anonymous No.16009373]

>>16009361
As a hobby they are good if you are into the history of watches and movements. You can pick up some great pieces for relatively little money since no one wants them these days.

To wear maybe not so much. You'd need a lot of confidence to wear one without shame and not look like a fedora wearing sperg.

[Anonymous No.16009383]

>>16009361
You will look fucking stupid, and they are not good to wear. There is a reason watches evolved to go on the wrist

[Anonymous No.16009384]

>>16009361
According to a watch chart, if you're into pocket watches then you also fantasize about raping women but are too afraid to go through with the act.

[Anonymous No.16009397]

>>16009373
>>16009383
>>16009384
That's what I thought. I'd think the same thing to someone else if I saw them whip out a pocket watch. Plus I've worn a watch every single day since I was like 14. Hey, guess I could wear them both and double check the time just in case, eh?

[Anonymous No.16009402]

>>16009361
>pocket watch
You may as well just check your phone for the time.

[Anonymous No.16009406]

>>16009397
They are not convenient. I used a pocket watch when I was a little kid because my grandpa gave me his old one. It was annoying taking it out of my pocket and if it has a chain it gets caught on things. Also if you have a phone you would need to keep them in separate pockets, due to electromagmetism.

[Anonymous No.16009454]

>>16009353
get an orange resin strap

[Anonymous No.16009461]

>>16009361
>>16009384
based

[Anonymous No.16009463]

What watch under $5k would you take to your final adventure, /wt/?

[Anonymous No.16009492]

>>16009463
>final adventure
What? If you're talking general use and abuse outdoors then a simple g-shock makes the most sense. I had a basic ass g-shock survive 12 years of Army life including 7 combat deployments a bunch of very rough schools and selections. They are bomb proof for the most part.

[Anonymous No.16009531]

I don’t know why I waited so long to get one of these. What a cracking watch.

[Anonymous No.16009535]

how did they get so many??

[Anonymous No.16009539]

>>16009463
I prefer the citizen promaster land for my final quest
https://www.shoppinginjapan.net/bn4021-02e

[Anonymous No.16009554]

>>16009492
I'm talking about a time in a man's life when he feels like butter scraped over too much bread, and understands that there would be little place for him in this world anymore even if he succeeded in all his endeavors, and as it is, the only decent and proper thing left to do is to take a stroll down memory lane, bet on a horse or two, and fade back into the void.

[Anonymous No.16009556]

The mock-up of the engraving I'm getting on my AnOrdain model 1 just arrived. I'm excited.

[Anonymous No.16009560]

>>16009539
>final quest

[Anonymous No.16009572]

>>16009535
>old jellyfish
>plastic is not a dirty, disgusting fishtank shade of yellow

these sat untouched in the dark in some store's backlog?

[Anonymous No.16009576]

Literally just realized this morning there's a gold chapter ring here. :>

[Anonymous No.16009584]

>>16009354
The damasko bracelet is meant to be top tier for comfort

[Anonymous No.16009590]

>>16009556
which colourway did you get?

[Anonymous No.16009597]

>>16009353
yes

[Anonymous No.16009607]

>>16009556
Where's the map of?

[Anonymous No.16009612]

>>16009590
Parisian Blue - the fume dial just seemed a bit too much.

>>16009607
Birthplace

[Anonymous No.16009661]

There has been an explosion of microbrands filling this niche
>38-39mm
>solid bracelet
>"everyday watch"
>under $500
>Miyota/NH35

[Anonymous No.16009667]

>>16009354
hey i had the same question last thread, someone said tag heuer link and yeah that really looks nice but i am biased against tag heuer desu

[Anonymous No.16009701]

>>16009661
i'd never buy a microbrand unless the story was extremely compelling, but i do recognize that its objectively a solid way to get an aesthetic you want with less fluff and modern quality standards compared to vintage.

[Anonymous No.16009703]

>>16009661
list some off the top of your head?

[Anonymous No.16009707]

whats wt wearing today?

[Anonymous No.16009711]

>>16009353
you tell me
(natos are a meme though, step away from them)

[Anonymous No.16009716]

>>16009707

[Anonymous No.16009719]

>>16009716
based

[Anonymous No.16009733]

>>16009716
10/10 will buy if they ever make an umbreon one

[Anonymous No.16009739]

>>16009716
does seiko make a non-pokemon watches with this case. looks pretty nice.

[Anonymous No.16009754]

>>16009354
Monta and Formex have micro adjustable Clasps, if that helps. Tolless, I mean.

[Anonymous No.16009756]

>>16009739
looks like a SUS case

[Anonymous No.16009759]

>>16009597
>>16009353
No NATO

[Anonymous No.16009768]

>>16009353
two-piece leather

>>16009597
>>making your watch thicker so it's easier to bumps into things.

[Anonymous No.16009774]

>>16009756
this was the perfect, hi-beat, hacking handwind higher grade movement, 35mm field watch that seiko killed off

it was too good

[Anonymous No.16009777]

>>16009774
>date window doesnt cut the 4
extremely based. this looks way better than those marathon shitters.

[Anonymous No.16009799]

>>16009707
Love the explorer 2, looks great but on the wrist I think it looks crap.

[Anonymous No.16009800]

>>16009701
Buying a high grade microshitter as a starter mechanical watch instead of messing around with a Seiko 5 and getting annoyed with how horrible it is is a great way to start collecting

[Anonymous No.16009803]

>>16009707
Semenmaster

[Anonymous No.16009804]

>>16009707
Marlin

[Anonymous No.16009806]

>>16009803
How do you read the date without a magnifying glass stuck on to the crystal?

[Anonymous No.16009859]

>>16009707
The Khaki Pilot day/date.

[Anonymous No.16009868]

Never wore watches before but recently I got these here, thoughts?
The one on the right is a darwil, the other two I don't know. Neither of them work tho, so I'm not sure if I should try to fix them as they're quite old.

[Anonymous No.16009897]

>>16009707
Dw5600 in aliexpress case

[Anonymous No.16009910]

>>16009897 did you mean in aliexpress case with the bracelet??

what was wrong with the original ??

[Anonymous No.16009922]

>>16009910
Yea, nothing was wrong with it i had just had it for so long and treated it so badly it was looking a little worse for wear . I didn't want to throw it away so I thought I'd give it a new life. I kept the old case as well though.

[Anonymous No.16009924]

>>16009707
An Xbox huge Orient M Force. I should probably reset the date

[Anonymous No.16009960]

How do you deal with the fact that the very nicest of affordable moon phase turns out to be a ladies watches? I don't mind the case size, in fact I prefer the classic look of sub 40mm, but the 18.5mm strap is really pushing it too far for me. Any options? Cutting shoulders in a 20mm strap seems like a faux pas and I'm not sure widening the lugs is doable. Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.16009973]

>>16009803
The best reference of this watch. In fact, I hope Omega puts the ugly waves on every Seamaster Diver 300M dial forevermore so this becomes all the more special with time.

[Anonymous No.16009974]

>>16009960
? just buy a 19mm strap and squeeze it in
those exist, for watches like orients and some seikoes

leather compresses, you can squeeze down 1mm or even 2. Its not noticeable 95% of the time

[Anonymous No.16009977]

Older pic but wearing it today.

[Anonymous No.16009984]

>>16009960

You can find some citizen moonphase men's watches on eBay without much trouble.

But that watch looks completely unisex. 18mm strap is perfectly normal for a dress watch.

[Anonymous No.16010012]

>>16009977
Fugg nice breh that's the tuna I want

[Anonymous No.16010018]

>>16009974
>>16009984
Thanks guys I’ll get over myself I suppose.

[Anonymous No.16010037]

Did I do good

[Anonymous No.16010042]

>>16010037
>has to shave to make it look average size
I'm sorry anon

[Anonymous No.16010048]

>>16010037
>shaves his pubes bald
Zoomer and millennial grade faggotry. Literal gay faggotry. Men have a bush, any woman that insults a bush is not worth being with. Grow some balls to go with your little dick.

[Anonymous No.16010049]

>>16009554
i want to see mountains, bro...

[Anonymous No.16010055]

>>16009803
the best seamaster

[Anonymous No.16010060]

>>16010048
Can I at least trim it?
I'm not that guy but I trim my bush because it gets really big.

[Anonymous No.16010061]

>>16010048
I shave all my body hair because it turns me on. And I like wearing panties. no I'm not a tranny.

[Anonymous No.16010064]

>>16010060
Yes, a slight trim is just being considerate of your partner. Going bald is for feminine degenerates. The types who probably try to get women to eat their ass.

[Anonymous No.16010072]

Got my grandads old omega quartz set with a new battery hopefully it keeps time. It had the original(I assume) strap but it had fallen to bits. I kept the buckle from it.

I really excited. I don't have anything else passed down from him so it will be great if it works.

Any recommendations of what straps i should get to go with it? Looks like a 20mm lug width. Its 34mm case width which seems pretty small for me. I'd like to make it feel a bit more casual if possible.

[Anonymous No.16010073]

>>16010072
a brown leather strap, not alligator pattern

[Anonymous No.16010074]

>>16009897
If you ever want to buy a new genuine bezel for it I recommend tiktox.com in the UK, very cheap with a lot of choice. Use this chart for finding out which models have compatible bezels, you can usually find some funky colours.

[Anonymous No.16010081]

>>16010048
I like to have a smooth penis and balls. It feels better that way.

[Anonymous No.16010096]

>>16010061
so you are the faggot tranny who always advises other anons to shave their armhair, yuck
>>16010081
americans get the rope too. degenerate satanic nation

[Anonymous No.16010101]

>>16010074
Cheers
anon I may do that. I heard bad things about the resin aliexpress cases so went for the metal

[Anonymous No.16010130]

>>16009806
WAHHH I NEED A CYCLOPS ON EVERY WATCH I OWN WAHHHH

[Anonymous No.16010149]

Official last post

Do not post again.

[Anonymous No.16010190]

>>16009324
From what I've observed on /wt/, the discussion about high horology watches and the discussion about sub-$200 watches is relatively civil and in good faith (there are exceptions to this). The discussion about entry to mid-tier luxury watches is where people tend to get their backs up, shitpost, etc. Just personal anecdotal observations.

Now, with that having been said, I want to have a reasonable discussion about mid-tier luxury watches. I am not in the market for any watch over $10,000, and will not be for the foreseeable future. But, I want to figure out where to start looking so that I might be able to more easily make a decision on what to buy when the time comes. I enjoy doing research about watches and so I would like to know where (as in what brand, model, reference, etc.) it would be most worth spending time doing research.

Categories that are important to me are as follows:
>Technology. I like mechanical watches but am most interested in watches that are technically innovative, accurate, etc. Note that I respect Spring Drive technology but I would prefer to own/collect more "traditional" mechanical watches that don't use that technology.
>Performance. I own a lot of things that are delicate; I want watch to be (relatively) tough, precise, and not something I really have to "worry" about day to day.
>Design. It doesn't matter to me how great the movement is if the watch is externally ugly.
>Finishing. Tied into design, I want the watch to look good and would appreciate things like compound curvature and sharp polishing. However I don't care about finishing that I can't see with my naked eye.
>Brand. This isn't the most important factor, but it would be nice to buy from a brand that is reasonably well respected and is "cool," but at the same time I don't care enough to pay a massive premium just for a brand name.

Where should I start my research, /wt/?

[Anonymous No.16010207]

>>16010190
You basically just described Rolex

[Anonymous No.16010239]

>>16010101
I actually only heard of them yesterday, I wanted another bezel for my GMW5610. I bought the same as the one that came on the watch so I should hopefully be able to tell if it's legit, I'm planning on possibly painting the letters red. It cost £7.50 including delivery which seemed very cheap.

[Anonymous No.16010245]

>>16010190
That's a lot to ask for in a <$10k watch. You can get 3 or 4 of those but yeah, only Rolex would seem to hit them all.

[Anonymous No.16010246]

>>16009324
Post your super shitters

Excellent shitters only

[Anonymous No.16010249]

>>16009531
I prefer the 6900 but both are great

[Anonymous No.16010261]

>>16010190
It's kinda rolex or nothing if we want something that Exactly meets what you said.

Idk maybe a max bill mega solar:
>Solar, charges itself with 3 hours in ordinary office lighting
>Perpetual calendar
>8 seconds a year accuracy without radio, syncs to atomic signal daily
>hour setting complication, just pull out the crown and twist a click for each hour
>I think it looks nice

Downside is that I don't think it's super rugged. It's plexiglass by default but can be upgraded to sapphire. But even then it's something you wear to the office, not to do serious stuff.

[Anonymous No.16010264]

>>16010261
>made in 30s germany
no thanks shitler

[Anonymous No.16010278]

>>16010261
>8 seconds a year accuracy without radio
Hmmm must be some special quartz movement in there to achieve that, GS gets 10s per year with their 9F.

[Anonymous No.16010281]

>>16010278
Seiko just constantly lowballs all their movements. The 4R35 is supposed to be +/- 30s a day but in practice it's 10-15, usually less. Their 9F is 10s a year, in practice it's half that.

[Anonymous No.16010282]

>>16010264
30s Germany is the based part though

[Anonymous No.16010285]

>>16009531
If I had to get a gshock it'd be this. That said isn't it a chonker?

[Anonymous No.16010303]

>>16010285
It's actually quite small because of the shape. Unless your wrist is 6 inches it'll be fine.

[Anonymous No.16010309]

>>16009806
With my eyes.
>>16009973
>>16010055
Yes, wavy dials are gay.

[Anonymous No.16010311]

>>16009361
Pocket watches are for queer mouth breathers. The same kind who hang out at Renaissance fairs and write Star Trek Fanfic and think tshirts with lots of text on them that say something funny makes them well dressed.

So yes you'd look like a cosplaying sperg. It'd be like wearing a monocle or walking around with a top hat and decorative cane- yes it was fashionable 200 years ago but times change.

Yeah if you want to collect them go ahead, but actually wearing it is like the difference between collecting flintlock pistols and actually carrying them daily.

[Anonymous No.16010314]

>>16010264
>He doesn't like 30s germany

[Anonymous No.16010321]

>>16010048
Mental illness

[Anonymous No.16010337]

>>16010207
>>16010245
What about Omega? Rolex comes with a lot of baggage.

[Anonymous No.16010341]

>>16010190
I’m going to save you a lot of time here. If you want a sportswatch, buy Rolex. If you want a dress watch OR anything more complicated than a date wheel, buy JLC. If you are an autist obsessed with dial finishing, buy GS. If you hate Rolex for whatever reason, buy Omega instead.

[Anonymous No.16010349]

>>16010048
What if your pubes grow up your shaft?

[Anonymous No.16010350]

>>16010311
try again, straw man

[Anonymous No.16010366]

>>16010337
Omega have certainly done some interesting things with technology, movements and materials, but those are not in their cheaper sub $10k watches. Also the finishing in those cheaper watches is acceptable at best.

The only alternative I can think of would be Nomos. Fully in-house, good value for money, respected by watch-geeks. Also GS but that may fail on brand too.

[Anonymous No.16010372]

Thoughts on the following analogies?
>Rolex
Mercedes-Benz
>Omega
BMW
>Breitling
Audi
>JLC
Jaguar
>Grand Seiko
Lexus
>Seiko
Toyota
>Patek
Rolls-Royce
>VC
Bentley
>Citizen
Honda

[Anonymous No.16010377]

>>16010372
False equivocation cringe dumbfuck watchfag

[Anonymous No.16010381]

>>16010372
What about Infiniti?

[Anonymous No.16010382]

Citizen just made the best genta-esque sports watch. Swiss cucks absolutely BTFO

[Anonymous No.16010388]

>>16010366
Could you give me examples of some of Omega's watches with interesting technology/movements/materials and their pricing? Also what do you define as merely "acceptable" finishing and where in the finishing department does Omega fall short? Examples?

[Anonymous No.16010390]

>>16010382
ref?

[Anonymous No.16010398]

>>16009324
w2c cheap fake gold casio

[Anonymous No.16010405]

>>16010390
https://monochrome-watches.com/citizen-mechanical-model-caliber-0200-la-joux-perret-2021-price/

[Anonymous No.16010413]

>>16010405
>permanent collection
based fucking citizen, fuck limited runs

[Anonymous No.16010414]

>>16009324

Suggest me a watch


>> Your budget

Under $10k US

>> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot

Some kind of sports watch

>> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz

Automatic


>> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone

Solid 18k preferably yellow.

>> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet

Strap

>> Wrist size or desired watch size

At least 38mm
Used obviously. Was thinking vintage Breitling. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.16010415]

>>16010382
the bracelet and case look great, i just don't like the dial texture vs the small second. will this genta style ever not look good? the sharp edges are so nice

[Anonymous No.16010423]

>>16010405
Nice.

[Anonymous No.16010428]

>>16010382
It looks good, but USD$6k is a bit steep considering its immediate competition (GS). I would rather have a GS than this.

That said, Citizen nailed the design. Kudos.

[Anonymous No.16010434]

>>16010428
citizen absolutely shits on GS when it comes to shape and bracelet. that's the worst part about GS. i don't think it really competes directly.

[Anonymous No.16010436]

>>16009584
This.....it's the pinnacle. There is nothing higher

[Anonymous No.16010440]

>>16010434
Agreed that the design way better than GS. But the movement technology isn't there.

[Anonymous No.16010443]

>>16010372
Rolex is porsche churning out the same models with slight changes (911) for years. Bought by middle managers to show wealth.

Rolls royce is patek - Guady rappers love them tainting a legacy.

Omega is landrover - used to make rugged military tools now churn blingy special editions.

[Anonymous No.16010446]

>>16010428
>That said, Citizen nailed the design. Kudos.

They really did.

>>16010434
>citizen absolutely shits on GS when it comes to shape and bracelet. that's the worst part about GS. i don't think it really competes directly.

Are you me?

[Anonymous No.16010454]

>>16009707

[Anonymous No.16010456]

>>16010440
that's why i said they don't compete. you buy gs for the movement and nice face, you buy this for its case shape and bracelet

[Anonymous No.16010463]

>>16010443
Good point on Rolex/Porsche. For sure.

[Anonymous No.16010468]

>>16010388
Omega have used ceramic, titanium cases, even all titanium movements. Actually the latter Seamaster Aqua Terra Ultra Light would fit within budget. Their DeVille line exists to test out innovations. It was the first with the co-axial escapement.

As for their finishing its not that its bad its more the fact on some watches it seems 'cheap' compared to their price. It's middle of the pack when compared to their competition.

[Anonymous No.16010469]

>>16010456
Tbh I prefer the Citizen's dial to the GS textured dials, which look tacky to me.

[Anonymous No.16010472]

>>16010423
Did they just forget about this part?

[Anonymous No.16010474]

>>16010468
>Seamaster Aqua Terra Ultra Light
Incredible watch but they're like $40k man.

[Anonymous No.16010475]

>>16010472
Just makes it more angular. The more alternating brushed & polished surfaces the better for this type of design imo.

[Anonymous No.16010487]

>>16010341
Great answer. This is my favorite tier of luxury. I could never justify buying an HH watch though around $10k for a trinket is already obscene.

[Anonymous No.16010491]

Oh shit bros they reprinted it

[Anonymous No.16010499]

>>16010474
Typo. I meant the ceramic dark side for that price not the aqua.

[Anonymous No.16010515]

>>16009355
>>16009356
>>16009360
>>16009711
>>16009759
All these guys are losers. Nato strap Rolex is classic.

[Anonymous No.16010524]

>>16010515
I disagree but you pic isn't even a Datejust (or Nato strap technically)

[Anonymous No.16010540]

>>16010475
Can't you see it's sticking out? They could have at least made the surfaces flush, why leave that there?

[Anonymous No.16010548]

>>16010468
>>16010388
I would argue that the co-axial escapement is interesting technology, and Omega uses co-axial escapements in every current production mechanical watch. As far as materials are concerned, Omega is working more with ceramics lately and has managed to work out a process of producing ceramic that is finished like steel, which is interesting, but there is at least one example that is often posted here of how doing so can compromise the structural integrity of the watch case. It's one example that is posted over and over again, though, so I don't think there is enough data to suggest that their use of ceramics has any critical flaws.

With respect to finishing, Omega doesn't have a particularly strict set of guidelines or standards it adheres to so the quality of finishing varies depending on the watch. The bog-standard Speedmaster, for example, is a very bare-bones watch and you can see the orange peel on the spray painted hands from a mile away. The Seamaster Diver 300M has really nice compound curvature to the case and bezel but that watch has a polarizing design especially in its most current formation. As well I have heard that individual examples can have flaws so you have to examine the one you're going to buy fairly closely before purchasing.

Overall, Omega is an "interesting" brand; more interesting than Rolex I'd argue. They have a massive catalogue with some very fine watches and some ugly-as-shit watches. They do like 3 or 4 special edition Speedmasters per year. They clearly experiment a lot. On the totally out-there side of the spectrum, they have a completely handmade and finished central tourbillon that they charge $200k for. So if you want to go down the rabbit hole, Omega is probably a solid choice. You do have to hunt a bit more for a good Omega.

[Anonymous No.16010550]

>>16010540
What do you mean "sticking out"? You mean the vertices aren't touching? If so that just sounds like a design decision to me.

[Anonymous No.16010551]

>>16010515
>No Datejust
>No Nato strap
>Anon isn't Sean Connery as James Bond

[Anonymous No.16010564]

>>16010499
If they update the Apollo 8 DSOTM to have the Calibre 3861 or release a new model with that movement but in a similar style, then I would almost unreservedly recommend it at its price

[Anonymous No.16010569]

Fuck you, I like it.

[Anonymous No.16010575]

>>16010564
One of the prettiest machine-finished movements out there.

[Anonymous No.16010579]

>>16010569
>obviously trimmed arm/hand hair
Why must arabs do this?

[Anonymous No.16010582]

>>16010579
It’s too hot to keep all our fur

[Anonymous No.16010589]

>>16010382
I like everything here except the dial... it doesn't look luxury, it reminds me of asphalt.

[Anonymous No.16010599]

Need it or keep it?

[Anonymous No.16010605]

>>16010372
This is pretty good

[Anonymous No.16010607]

>>16010589
That's what they were going for. The rugged masculine industrial look.

[Anonymous No.16010609]

>>16010569
Why did they make it so massive? It looks like it was designed for the Hulk.

[Anonymous No.16010618]

I want daily beater watch with a nice bracelet. One anon recommended formex. I really like this Essence 39 (39mm). But something's weird about the brand, I don't know. The name is a bit too boomery techy and the watch in general is maybe a bit too gaudy. I like it but I can see how I can get buyer's remorse instantly. Although it looks greatly put together and the praise about the bracelet is overwhelming. Hmm... pre order or not?

[Anonymous No.16010619]

>>16010609
Because it's a "fuck off everyone, I have money" watch

[Anonymous No.16010621]

>>16009531
Wearing a white model of this. Great watch

[Anonymous No.16010624]

>>16010569
AP did it better.

[Anonymous No.16010625]

>>16010618
I'm in the same boat. The bracelet is tits and so is the overall design of the watch, but something is off. I was looking at the green one, but think it may clash too much for an everyday watch. The blue just doesn't have enough color too it like the green one, so it's out.

[Anonymous No.16010628]

>>16010569
Why do you like it, anon?

[Anonymous No.16010635]

>>16010618
>The name is a bit too boomery techy

I was looking at this watch too, and thought the exact same thing. Shit brand name desu.

Take a look at the Maurice Lacroix Aikon 39mm. Very good bracelet and personally I like the design. Maybe a little more pricey for you?

[Anonymous No.16010642]

Call me Mr Game and Watch

[Anonymous No.16010644]

>>16010642
Okay Mr Gayman Watch

[Anonymous No.16010649]

Bros, is /our thumb/ okay?

[Anonymous No.16010656]

>>16009324
I kind of want a watch as an accessory piece. Thoughts on this? I really like the (probably fake) leather strap and circular head. Anything at or under USD$40 plz.

[Anonymous No.16010658]

>>16010635
Wow I looked at some macro shots of this bracelet, literally AP tier. But I don't like the design much. Damn. Price would be barely okay but at that point I'd start looking at more reputable brands although maybe ML is really good as well, i dont know anything about them.

[Anonymous No.16010659]

>>16010619
I think they could have achieved that same effect with a normal sized watch covered in diamonds.

[Anonymous No.16010662]

>>16009584
why torx screws

[Anonymous No.16010663]

Bros, is /our thumb/ okay?

[Anonymous No.16010665]

>>16010382
>>16010423
I don't like how the watch head is so cut off from the bracelet.

[Anonymous No.16010684]

>>16009774
used to own two of these (black and white versions) and the 4s15 is by far one of the most accurate movements I've ever owned. brilliant watches. shame they are prohibitively expensive now-days and the movement is now pretty much exclusively in credor

[Anonymous No.16010688]

>>16010656
Don't buy a Timex. Even the chinks don't use generic movements as poverty as the ones Timex uses.
Look at cheap Casios and Citizens.

[Anonymous No.16010690]

>>16010688
I literally just want it as an accessory. All I care is that it looks nice and ticks.

[Anonymous No.16010691]

>>16010382
If this was half the price it would be unbeatable.

[Anonymous No.16010701]

>>16010618
>>16010635

Fair enough, not for everyone I understand. Try Monta's range? The movements are fine enough, but the watch bodies are pretty great. Good selection of designs for you if you wanted.
Again, slightly more still.

[Anonymous No.16010707]

>>16010663
yeah he just had an asshole customer is all.
I don't mind fed actually. better than a lot of the youtube watch schillers. I didn't mind Bark and Jack for the camera work but when I learned he'd formally worked in HR I put him on my shit-list
picrel unrelated certina buckle with initials from way back wherever. considering getting the clasp on my sarb engraved since its aftermarket anyway. thoughts

[Anonymous No.16010721]

hey can someone help i try to find if this Seiko is kind of authentic i never saw a 300m turtle before.

[Anonymous No.16010728]

>>16010690
>I literally just want it as an accessory.
>All I care is that it looks nice and ticks.
Lol, you think the millionaires on /wt/ use their watches as tools?
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=casio+leather&rh=p_36%3A-4000&qid=1614897018&rnid=2661611011

[Anonymous No.16010732]

>>16010728
No, but I'm working with $40- not $400,000. Poors btfo again.

[Anonymous No.16010733]

>>16010721
It's a mos with Bathyscaphe/BOCTOK hands

[Anonymous No.16010737]

>>16010732
That's literally a search for Casio leather under $40. Surely you can pick something you like from there.

[Anonymous No.16010738]

>>16010732
He literally gave you a link to 25 euro watches >>16010728

[Anonymous No.16010743]

>>16010737
What's the big difference between casio and timex?

[Anonymous No.16010753]

>>16010743
Among other differences, Casio is Jap and Timex is US. Generally would go with Casio. If you really only care about aesthetics just pick one you think looks pretty and order it

[Anonymous No.16010755]

>>16010753
ty for qrd

[Anonymous No.16010758]

>>16010628
Shiny

[Anonymous No.16010759]

>>16010454
gang

[Anonymous No.16010778]

Where my F91W Chads at?

[Anonymous No.16010822]

based or cringe
reminds me of a road sign

[Anonymous No.16010830]

>>16010822
>based or cringe
High levels of based, any digital watch that changes modes using a rotating bezel is top tier.
The silver version is better but most people could pull off the black or gold versions as well.

[Anonymous No.16010833]

>>16010822
That's godlike, you kidding me?
Extra points if you even just do kart racing.

[Anonymous No.16010893]

Yema. Based or shitters?

[Anonymous No.16010894]

>>16010893
Ye, ma'.

[Anonymous No.16010902]

>>16010893
If they ever fix their QC and customer service they will be a top tier microshitter brand.
They seem to be growing too quickly and they were already having qc issues, i will be interested to see how their digital shitters are holding up a year from now.

[Anonymous No.16010909]

Keep it gentry.

https://youtu.be/sIGFYZuzjR4

[Anonymous No.16010912]

>>16010909
ok ciao

[Anonymous No.16010919]

I was just bored of /pol, /fit and /b and was just visiting random boards, found this interesting watch threads and have been kinda lurking in the few last weeks.
What do you think about Hamilton as a brand?
What do you think about the Hamilton Ventura Elvis 80?
How about the limited edition pulsar?

[Anonymous No.16010948]

>>16009707

[Anonymous No.16010949]

>>16010919
>What do you think about Hamilton as a brand?
Another swatch group skinsuit brand, but they make lots of decent watches.
>Hamilton Ventura Elvis 80?
Some of thr venturas are pretty cool, gotta stay away from the really large ones they wear huge, the elvis 80 is right on the edge of too big, better to go quartz and get a smaller model, pic related
>How about the limited edition pulsar?
As long as you are okay with having to push the button everytime you want to see the time it's very cool, yema and i think bulova have similar (and cheaper) led watches that have a similar look.

[Anonymous No.16011001]

>>16009707

[Anonymous No.16011009]

>>16010948
Is that the Strapcode Angus jubilee? suits the watch well

[Anonymous No.16011047]

>>16009768
Bumping is only a problem on short buses.

[Anonymous No.16011052]

>>16010919
I like their Khaki field watches.

[Anonymous No.16011061]

>>16010919
I only like this one.

[Anonymous No.16011066]

>>16010443
Spot on

[Anonymous No.16011068]

>>16010949
>better to go quartz and get a smaller model, pic related
Venturas are not supposed to be mechanical. They were originally equipped with 'electric' movements before being upgraded with quartz. Part of the reason they have such a crazy shape is to differentiate themselves from the old watch tech of the previous decades.

[Anonymous No.16011069]

>>16009804
baste

[Anonymous No.16011093]

>>16010948
love the skx013 but not a big fan of the yobokie bezel, it looks conical like the top is smaller than the bottom. Aluminium bezel insert is also vastly superior to ceramic

[Anonymous No.16011100]

so now that the dust has settled, which dial is nicer?

[Anonymous No.16011104]

>>16010575
>>16010564
>dark side
why would i want to look like a nigger?

[Anonymous No.16011109]

>>16010642
unmoggable

[Anonymous No.16011123]

YEMA IS THE FUTURE

[Anonymous No.16011141]

>>16011123
What makes them better than the thousands of other microbrands offering watches at around $1k?

[Anonymous No.16011147]

>>16011141
In house movements, customer service dept run by grumpy Frenchmen.

[Anonymous No.16011156]

>>16011141
an affected sense of history

[Anonymous No.16011162]

>>16011147
kek I’m not sure I would want an in-house movement from a French brand with reportedly poor QC

[Anonymous No.16011166]

>>16011162
I haven't seen any complaints about the movements, just the dials and mostly the dive bezels.

[Anonymous No.16011226]

>>16011166
they're ridiculously thicc too

[Anonymous No.16011285]

what does /wt/ think of the new bezelled presage line?

[Anonymous No.16011286]

>>16010190
Grand Seiko SLGH005 meets all your asks, depending on whether you like the design. It has Grand Seiko's new direct impulse escapement, free sprung balance, hi-beat, 80hr power reserve, excellent external finishing, good movement finishing (for this price-range),

If you want something sportier you can look at the Tudor Pelagos and Black Bay 58, Rolex, Omega's Seamaster and Speedmaster Professional. All of these have trade-offs but are at least worth thinking about.

If you want something dressier there's JLC's entry level models. Personally I would go Master Control Date or entry level Reverso over the current entry level MUT models.

[Anonymous No.16011288]

>>16011285
Oh boy, more fucking Seikos.

[Anonymous No.16011291]

>>16011285
It looks like a sinn clone made by Japanese people that don't understand the point if sinn watches.
I would really like it if it was sub 40mm

[Anonymous No.16011293]

>>16011288
>'ok team, so divers are selling'
>'people like dress watches too'
>'let's combine them'
checked

[Anonymous No.16011294]

Are 70s Seiko chronographs the last sorta good deal in vintage chronos?

[Anonymous No.16011298]

>>16010656
Lots of good choices out there

[Anonymous No.16011301]

>>16010405
Wow, neat to Citizen jump into this price tier with a free sprung balance movement from the get go. Design of the watch looks cool too. Hope they make an 0100 powered version in the same case.

[Anonymous No.16011303]

>>16011100
guise? please?? anyone???
>>16011298
very nice

[Anonymous No.16011308]

>>16011100
imo blue is nicer

[Anonymous No.16011311]

>>16011100
The both are good color schemes if i had to pick i would go white dial but i would ve happy with either.

[Anonymous No.16011317]

>>16010684
The 4s15 is an amazing movement. It started life as the Daini Seikosha designed 52xx movement and was renamed 4sxx when it was brought back into production. Seiko stopped using the movement in anything but Credors because it takes too much skilled labour to make (because it was designed in the late 1960s).

[Anonymous No.16011324]

>>16009667
Why though?

[Anonymous No.16011332]

>>16011324
Why biased against TAG Heuer?
They're a mallwatch brand whoring out their own history.

Think back to Omega pre-1995. That's what TAG is now. They have decades of work to do before they gain back their good reputation.

[Anonymous No.16011334]

>>16011291
>Sinn clone
It's a homage to a Seiko model from 1964, the heck are you on about?

[Anonymous No.16011338]

>>16011294
Yes if you mean the 701x, no if you mean the 613x. The 701x is one of the most undervalued vintage chronographs on the market.

[Anonymous No.16011341]

>>16011308
1 for blue
>>16011311
1 for white

dammit thanks anyways. I think I'd go for white if it were beige without hesitation, but I have to admit the blue is looking kinda sexy although I'm worried it's not as polyvalent.

[Anonymous No.16011344]

>>16011334
If seiko copies another brands watch, and then later makes a homage of their copy of another brands watch, is that resulting watch no longer a homage of the other brands watch?
Anyway it kinda looks like pic related.

[Anonymous No.16011345]

>>16011344
Crown looks like a tit

[Anonymous No.16011359]

>>16011344
Ah, so your claim is that Seiko copied the design of the Crown Chronograph in 1964 from watches sold direct to consumer by Helmut Sinn in Germany starting in 1961? How would Seiko have even heard that Sinn existed at that point? And what watch model did Sinn make before 1964 that looked anything like the Crown chronograph?

[Anonymous No.16011361]

>>16011338
>no if you mean the 613x
What's wrong with them?

[Anonymous No.16011362]

>>16011344
Looks nothing like it. Maybe the lug shape is similar at first glance but that's about it.

[Anonymous No.16011366]

>>16011361
They have more long term wear issues, and they have already been bid up a fair bit by collectors. The 701x is a much better value, with far fewer long term wear issues, and with advanced features such as stacked chronograph hours and minutes on a single subdial and flyback functionality.

[Anonymous No.16011367]

>>16011332
Seethe more chump

[Anonymous No.16011376]

>>16011332
I never tried on a pre-1995 Omega. Are they comfy?

[Anonymous No.16011396]

>>16011376
Omega was of the greatest series production watchmakers in the world in the pre-quartz era, but they struggled badly in the quartz era and ended up becoming part of the Swatch Group. Under the Swatch Group Omega's in-house movement and watch design and manufacturing facilities were shuttered and for a few decades Omega was just the highest priced product line coming out of a conglomerate manufacturing chain that made everything from cheap Tissots to Omegas in the same factories with the same employees and the same movements. Swatch almost destroyed Omega's reputation entirely in this period, until they began a serious long-term effort to return Omega to respectability. Personally I don't think they really started turning the corner until around 10 years ago.

[Anonymous No.16011427]

>>16011100
blue
>>16010919
hamilton is one of the better deals in swatch, swiss calibres at very affordable pricing, and less boring designs when compared to similar swatch group peers such as certina/mido/tissot
>elvis
its quite an effay watch, i like it. Only the smaller one
>pulsar
very boomer and slightly crazy at almost $1000 for the gold model but get it if you like it. You might be very mildly annoyed using it, but unlike older LEDs that 100% need to be pressed the new puslar shows the time constantly, just different brightness.

There are many vintage LED watches, such as the russian Elektronika 1, $50-$150 on ebay and aliexpress has $10- $20 LED watches as well. They are definate cheap gacha mallshitters but some are very rad.

[Anonymous No.16011462]

>>16010382
>>16010405
>we want the GS audience

im digging the angular case shape and bracelet far more than that of the GS
>>16010440
citizen has better quartz than GS. Most accurate watch right now is a citizen.

[Anonymous No.16011466]

>904L steel bathroom fixings
but I thought Rolexfags said this is expensive to make? and quite exclusive?

[Anonymous No.16011467]

>>16011466
nononono
NO

[Anonymous No.16011477]

>>16010341
And if you're a man and not a sheep buy Breitling or Guinand.

[Anonymous No.16011481]

>>16010382
>6k
AHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAH FUCK YOU AND FUCK CITIZEN AND FUCK EVERYONE WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE
IT'S A FUCKING CITIZEN AT ROLEX PRICE AND YOU'RE FINE WITH IT LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.16011484]

>>16009960
>>16010018
What is this btw? I keep looking and looking for a decent moon phase myself but haven't find anything reasonable

[Anonymous No.16011486]

>>16011467
Pack it up Rolex bros. $5 tops.

[Sieg !NP2jUmGKeo No.16011489]

>>16011481
You can't buy a rolex for $6k. It's not 1982 anymore

[Anonymous No.16011490]

Can anybody tell me if the Miyota quartz movement 6P80 is a true moonphase at 29.5 days or is it a month thing and has to be reset every 5 weeks? If you don’t know and can’t be bothered to check I won’t mind being directed to source info

[Sieg !NP2jUmGKeo No.16011491]

>>16011484
Want my hamilton?

[Anonymous No.16011492]

>>16011489
Yeah, the Air King is even less

[Anonymous No.16011510]

>>16011492
>buying the new air king

[Anonymous No.16011511]

>>16011396
Sure, early-90s Omega had some godawful watches (e.g., the Seamaster Polaris ... perhaps the ugliest watch I have ever seen) they also made some impressive and unusual pieces like pic related, the first chronometer-certified Speedmaster, and some insane precious metal skeleton watches that have proven to be quite collectible

[Anonymous No.16011512]

>>16011359
>How would Seiko have even heard that Sinn existed at that point?
Do you somehow think people didn't know anything about anything anywhere before the internet zoomer?

[Anonymous No.16011519]

>>16011344
>>16011511
its not possible to copy Sinn. You'll fall asleep halfway.

[Anonymous No.16011526]

>>16011396
80's quartz Omegas are cool as hell.

[Anonymous No.16011529]

>>16011491
Let’s see it

[Anonymous No.16011532]

>>16011526
How much?

[Anonymous No.16011534]

>>16011526
>we want the RO audience

[Anonymous No.16011546]

>>16011534
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Anonymous No.16011559]

>>16011546
>>16011526
>rotating dive bezel
>no arabic numerals

[Anonymous No.16011561]

>>16011396
They were making perpetual calendar watches in 1991

[Anonymous No.16011567]

>>16011559
Seamaster =/= diver
Rotating bezel =/= dive bezel

[Anonymous No.16011577]

This is now an Omega thread

[Anonymous No.16011579]

[Anonymous No.16011591]

>>16011427
So that’s two for blue and one for white. Send in your votes!
>>16011484
Just some quartz shitter

[Anonymous No.16011592]

[Anonymous No.16011602]

[Anonymous No.16011617]

>>16011577
The best sneedmaster

[Anonymous No.16011672]

>>16011577
So be it.

[Anonymous No.16011673]

>>16011512
Sinn was a tiny direct to consumer brand in Germany in the early 1960s. They didn't have any marketing or exports, so why would Seiko have ever heard of them? Hell, they were so unremarkable and not well known that there aren't even any pictures online of any early 1960s Sinn models *now*. I looked.

[Anonymous No.16011677]

>>16011673
I really wonder how you people think businesses and corporations work, do you really think what's presented in the media is the whole picture?

[Anonymous No.16011678]

>>16011317
I'm wearing a 5246 King Seiko from -74 right now. It had pretty bad water ingress, but after I cleaned it up it runs at a consistent +2s per day. Brilliant movement. If only the hand winding didn't feel so weird.

[Anonymous No.16011680]

>>16011577
Ok

[Anonymous No.16011684]

>>16011344
>>16011285
these 2 watches look nothing alike

[Anonymous No.16011693]

>>16011366
Eh, the 701X's have their own problems. I saw the Vintage Time Australia guy complain that they are rare because they don't survive well either. Poor water resistance (at least with the famous Monaco models), no possibility to adjust to couter wear on e.g. the hammer, hard to assemble without damaging pivots.

[Anonymous No.16011719]

>>16009342
Sick, how does it work?

[Anonymous No.16011732]

Is the made in Japan G Shock square worth it over the regular one? Costs three times as much

[Anonymous No.16011735]

If I got a Monta as my one and only watch, what would people think about me?

[Anonymous No.16011749]

>>16011735
Why Monta specifically?
What model?

[Anonymous No.16011756]

>>16011732
>"made in japan"
not sure about CASIO but 'made in japan' entry seikos are all still made in malaysia.

>>16011735
>lots of vague swiss references and marketing fluff about quality and heritage but no dates are given and their main office is in Saint Louis Missouri
>SW300 ebauche at $1800

just buy a Zelos already

[Anonymous No.16011761]

>>16011756
>'made in japan' entry seikos are all still made in malaysia.

how does that work?

[Anonymous No.16011767]

>>16011732
>>16011756
>>16011761
https://www.ablogtowatch.com/casio-g-shock-watch-headquarters-visit-made-japan-cool-fun/

>Casio's premium range ofG-Shockwatches are designed and developed in Hamura,Japan, and thenassembledat the company's manufacture in Yamagata.

[Anonymous No.16011777]

>>16011756
I'd love to buy a Zelos if only they didn't all sell out so damn quickly.

[Anonymous No.16011780]

>>16011761
those factories have japanese overseers and they are seiko owned so it counts as """japan"""

its all legalese classification, like how a $1.30 Ronda quartz movement out of their thailand factory is "swiss made"

[Anonymous No.16011786]

>>16011756
>just buy a Zelos already
It's ugly compared to Monta.

>>16011749
This one (Skyquest gilt dial/ceramic bezel). There's just something about it.

[Anonymous No.16011789]

>>16011780
Damn, that's some jewish-tier trickery

[Anonymous No.16011806]

>>16011732
Yes it has a full metal case inside and a screwback. As close as you can get to the original g-shock model. It's a completely different watch than the regular square. Nicer quality resin for the bezel and strap too.

[Anonymous No.16011829]

>>16011577
Based

[Anonymous No.16011837]

>>16011786
Monta stuff looks great, people don't trust the brand because it's never and at a fairly high pricepoint, but it looks like they are probably worth the money.

[Anonymous No.16011840]

is the sarb017 the only relevant affordable alternative to the SEXplorer?
>inb4 it's not affordable anymore
you snooze you lose fuckers
>inb4 the new alpinist
no.

[Anonymous No.16011848]

>>16011837
>>16011786
>>16011735
whats all this constant samefagging monta shilling?
why would you ever pay that much for a microbrand? you can get the seiko sharp edge at $1000 and the oris 65 at $2000 and those are both real heritage brands

[Anonymous No.16011849]

>>16011840
The new laurel alpinist

[Anonymous No.16011851]

>>16011848
>spending one thousand united states dollars on a Seiko
One of the worst crimes of /wt/ is encouraging people to do this

[Anonymous No.16011857]

>>16011851
seiko is probably the single most innovative non-HH brand, and you're bawking at the price point of $1000 when literally WHO fake-heritage brands like B&R with 3rd party movements ask for $3000 for their shitters?

[Anonymous No.16011858]

>>16011849
>much better lume than the sarb017
>same wr, movement and most other specs
Hmmm.
>no quirky inner rotating compass
>conservative handsome design ignoring the date window
Close but no cigar Seiko. You came close, but you never made it. And if you were, well you did already by now with the Sarb017

[Anonymous No.16011862]

>>16011848
>why would you ever pay that much for a microbrand? you can get the seiko sharp edge at $1000 and the oris 65 at $2000 and those are both real heritage brands
Does either of the two look like this though?
>>16011857
Dude Seiko has been raising prices for watches that cost like 5 times less a few years ago, all their prices are fake just like every other brand's prices, there's literally no objectivity so who cares?

[Anonymous No.16011865]

>>16011840

Damasko and Sinn 556 are the modern equivalent of the 1016. They are the 1016 produced for a wodern world.

Modern explorers are a gaudy bloated mess.

[Anonymous No.16011868]

>>16011851
>hahahaha lets print more money what can go wrong
usd isnt really worth that much anymore
>>16011862
look like what? chinese parts, like literally every non inhouse manufacturer at this pricepoint?

[Anonymous No.16011874]

>>16011862
The only complaint i have about monta is that they are putting a custom rotor on eta or selita movements (do they evn use top chronometer grade ones?) And then calling them their own movements.

[Anonymous No.16011881]

>>16011732
the case back makes them noticeably thicker

[Anonymous No.16011882]

>>16009707
President

[Anonymous No.16011883]

>>16011874
>(do they evn use top chronometer grade ones?)
One would assume if they did it would be written down as a marketing point, but who knows.

[Anonymous No.16011886]

Seiko sharp edge gmt
$1400 msrp
6r64 movement, small seconds, power reserve indicator, ony 45 hours of power reserve
https://www.seikowatches.com/global-en/products/presage/special/sharp_edged_series/

[Anonymous No.16011890]

>>16011865
excellent response. the sinn 556 has brilliant lume, modern wr and sapphire and a movement that can be serviced anywhere.
for me the alpinist offers something kinda like an explorer but in a very, very different vibe somehow. like a japanese artist designed it after the explorer while on acid. like the SEXplorer it's more than the sum of it's parts.

[Anonymous No.16011891]

>>16011881
good point.

[Anonymous No.16011894]

[Anonymous No.16011895]

[Anonymous No.16011898]

[Anonymous No.16011900]

[Anonymous No.16011902]

new thread
>>16011901
>>16011901
>>16011901

[Anonymous No.16012047]

this cheap ass seiko chronograph looks great for the money imo (120 bucks). should i get it?

[Anonymous No.16012115]

i will never understand why people like pilot watches, especially once it gets into the $1000+ range

[Anonymous No.16012174]

>>16011894
for me, it's the black cream

[Anonymous No.16012242]

>>16010548
>As well I have heard that individual examples can have flaws so you have to examine the one you're going to buy fairly closely before purchasing.
Just to make future purchases easier for me, which brand does not ever put out any flawed watches?

[Anonymous No.16012249]

>>16010625
>but something is off
It's the name. Formex.

reminds me of those Coby headphones (instead of Sony) you used to see.

[Anonymous No.16012278]

>>16011359
So many regrets not buying a like new one with the steel bezel on vacation two years ago. He was asking like 300 bucks for it.

[Anonymous No.16012360]

>>16010624
This

[Anonymous No.16012361]

>>16010569
Hey there, Floyd. Learn to read yet?

[Anonymous No.16012362]

>>16011886
>small seconds
That's the date not small seconds.