/wt/ Watch Thread

[Anonymous No.15996462]

German edition

This thread is about the appreciation of watches and their design, their history, and the engineering and materials that are required to make a functioning timepiece.

Guides:
> Poorfag guide: https://m.imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
> Watch essentials 102: https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV (embed) (embed)
> Purchasing used watches: https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2 (embed) (embed)
> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE (embed) (embed)

Should I buy this MVMT / DW / "minimalist" fashion watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

Should I buy this Armani / Michael Kors / mall watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/Sw1FsAn

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
> Wrist size or desired watch size

Old: >>15993756

[Anonymous No.15996467]

Feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the strap options and stuff. Do I want leather, velour, nato, perlon, something else? What colors or brands (am in EU/GER). For everyday wear, that is. I read the pastebin but it's so much to take in. Would like to stay under 30 for a single band, 40 at most if it's really good.

I liked the look of the Eulit perlons but they don't have 19mm options unfortunately. Taking recommendations.

[Anonymous No.15996468]

why are tag watches gay?

[Anonymous No.15996471]

>>15996462
bros
looking for simple no date 36mm dress watch
what are some budget options?

[Anonymous No.15996495]

>>15996471
How "budget" is budget?
Are we talking ~1000 like a Nomos Tangente or more or less?

[Anonymous No.15996496]

>>15996467
Well prepare to be underwhelmed, there are a lot less options when looking for 19mm straps. Fluco are German and make decent 19mm straps that are in your price range, so you could look at them. If you're looking for straps for the watch you posted then I'd recommend looking at less dressy brown leather straps, it's a classic look for black dialed watches.

[Anonymous No.15996497]

>>15996467
Also would it perhaps be fine to use a 20mm strap on a 19mm width watch or nah?

[Anonymous No.15996517]

>>15996496
I'm looking at flucos site but I don't see any 19mm straps? https://fluco-online.de/produkt/finest-single-strap/

[Anonymous No.15996525]

>>15996467
Wow that's actually a really good looking watch, always thought Tissot was a shit brand.

[Anonymous No.15996530]

>>15996517
You might want to look at third party sellers, they'll have a lot more choice (e.g. the US seller holbensfinewatchbands.com has 38 19mm Fluco straps), the German company Di Modell also have a lot of 19mm straps but again check third party sellers.

[Anonymous No.15996537]

>>15996530
I tried Di Modell but their site is so shit. There's no color previews so I have to guess which color is what.

Found these Rios1931 for 33€ a pop, do you think they're any good? Which color would go best with the black dial?

[Anonymous No.15996545]

>>15996525
Glad you like it, someone called it shit last thread which hurt my feelings.

[Anonymous No.15996555]

>>15996537
Have you tried watch-band-center.com? Looks to be a German site with decent choice. I can't really speak about Rios, I bought one of their perlon straps and wasn't impressed but can't say about their leather stuff. Either of the top two would work, anything that's not too dark brown.

[Sieg !NP2jUmGKeo No.15996558]

>>15996462
Would any of you guys buy custom cases? This is a derlin sample, but a custom case, no glass, no band.

100% brass or 100% 6061 billet

~$750

Not selling here just trying to do market research.

They take a lot of time in fusion 360, and a lot of time on the cnc

[Anonymous No.15996566]

>>15996558
>$750
No way.

[Sieg !NP2jUmGKeo No.15996567]

>>15996558
Basically for an idea of how much time it takes, 1: sketch case on ipad, conceptualize etc. 2: gravity sketch in virtual reality via occulus vr headset and fairly powerful pc 3: refine design in fusion 360 (expensive software license) 4: 3d print samples. 5: run off samples on cnc in derlin or nylon before initial case is done.

[Anonymous No.15996569]

>>15996558
You're asking me if I would buy a CASE for 10 times more than I can buy an actual WATCH for? Are you brain damaged lmfao?

[Sieg !NP2jUmGKeo No.15996572]

>>15996569
Made in usa, engraved your name on it etc, can even put a dildo or whatever in the design

[Anonymous No.15996573]

>>15996558
there's no way you have a shop of good enough tools to make a case worth more than $500

[Sieg !NP2jUmGKeo No.15996576]

>>15996573
You'd be surprised at what you can accomplish in a garage shop. I've been running off parts for 3d printed gun guys but since biden looks to be encroaching it's either find another market or go back to being someone else's bitch aka employee

[Sieg !NP2jUmGKeo No.15996587]

>>15996566
What would you pay for a case. Let's say 100% brass, screw back design.

Anything you want on the back plate the case itself is limited due to my cnc machine is 3 axis not 5

[Anonymous No.15996594]

What do you guys think of Sternglass Naos? Some pretty watches for sub 400.

[Anonymous No.15996595]

>>15996594
bauhaus is the cal arts of watches

[Anonymous No.15996605]

A boomer will die before he gets his Daytona

[Anonymous No.15996618]

>>15996587
>What would you pay for a case. Let's say 100% brass, screw back design.
brass? Fucking zero. Who the fuck wants a brass watch?

the only reason you'd want a custom case is if you were making some mega-deep diver project

[Anonymous No.15996621]

>>15996605
Here lies Ol' Boomer.
He never got the call.

[Anonymous No.15996633]

>>15996572
I can put a dildo in your mom's ass for 10 times less too.

[Anonymous No.15996654]

>>15995959
The King Seiko 45-7001 I bought from you is no joke in that department either. It runs within +/- 2spd in all six positions over the first 24 hours of wind.

One chronometric advantage those hi-beat movements have that doesn't get talked about much is they resist timekeeping deviations from wrist movements notably better than 4hz movements do. As a result they seem to tend towards having less deviation in rates between worn and resting than 4hz movements do.

In general, I wish worn vs resting rates was thought about more. So much effort is put into testing for positional variation, temperature variation, power reserve variation, but no one seems to test worn vs resting rates in any sort of systematic way.

[Anonymous No.15996670]

Do you guys wear your automatic watches when doing vigorous activities like drumming or using power tool?

[Anonymous No.15996672]

>>15996670
Yes, how else would you charge them?

Looking for a charge buddy to vigorously shake our rotors with btw.

[Sieg !NP2jUmGKeo No.15996677]

>>15996670
I wore mine welding in college and it did fine.

My watch, my photography circa 2010/2011

[Anonymous No.15996723]

>>15996670
No, it’s probably a very bad idea to drum with a watch on. Any kind of repetitive shocks, even if they are relatively low impact, is likely to affect the watch. I just put on a G-Shock.

[Anonymous No.15996727]

>>15996670
Yes, including range days where I'll put 500-2000 rounds down rnage in a day. That repeated sharp impulse doesn't phase even mediocre movements like the NH35.

[Anonymous No.15996742]

should i get a speedmaster reduced?

[Anonymous No.15996745]

>>15996670
Not if I can help it.
I'm pretty sure the watches could take it, but why risk it when I have specific beater watches for that kind of thing?

[Anonymous No.15996747]

>>15996497
You're in luck my bro, I have your answer.
Put on an 18mm, it will fit like a glove.
Pic related my Seiko 5 with 19mm lugs, on an 18mm perlon strap.

[Anonymous No.15996751]

>>15996677
That's a really nice watch Sieg. Post more photos.

[Sieg !NP2jUmGKeo No.15996752]

>>15996747
Looks like you're wearing a watch that you got for your 11th birthday

[Anonymous No.15996756]

>>15996462
40+ years still working like charm.

[Anonymous No.15996760]

>>15996742
Don’t do it. I’d keep an eye on 1861 prices and when the hype dies down scoop one up on the cheap.

[Anonymous No.15996761]

>>15996756
That bracelet looks nasty though

[Anonymous No.15996762]

>>15996742
No, the movement is crap. Look for a speedmaster date

[Anonymous No.15996775]

The watch my (soon to be) wife bought me arrived yesterday and after a light polish I think it's looking bredi nice I think. Would probably benefit from a service, but I have other shit I need to sort out before even thinking about that.

[Anonymous No.15996801]

>>15996761
I'm planning to change the strap but I don't know which color or design I have to choose.

[Anonymous No.15996804]

>>15996801
A brown two piece perlon

[Anonymous No.15996809]

I believe this thread has some experience with Japanese Seiko's like King's and Lord's.

I was looking for a King Seiko but I've stumbled upon a Lord for about $80 in perfect working condition... but as you know it's 34mm.

Are Lord's even close to King's (I know they were cheaper) and/or is this too small for a watch and should I keep looking?

[Anonymous No.15996818]

>>15996670
I had an SNK809 hold up for 6~7 years when it was my only watch with no servicing including college adventures.
I'm sure power tools and drumming are just fine for tool watches, but I probably wouldn't take even those with me for all the sports and exercise I do now that I know better. My Seiko 5 eventually started gaining minutes a day before I retired it.

[Anonymous No.15996828]

>>15996809
34mm is fine, for up to 7 inches.
wearing a 34 on 6 inch flat wrist right now

[Anonymous No.15996831]

>>15996828
>6 inch wrist
transition

[Anonymous No.15996834]

>>15996831
i think trannies should die in gas chambers, so no.

[Anonymous No.15996847]

>>15996828
wtf my dick is as thick as your wrist

[Anonymous No.15996863]

>>15996747
Everything I heard is that it's bad to put a smaller strap on because of the gap, but sometimes a bigger strap works. I think you just got lucky with your fit.

[Anonymous No.15996892]

https://youtu.be/cHCjifb_Zq0
hoe to shill a dead brand: the video

[Anonymous No.15996895]

>>15996892
hate this guys voice and his pretentious videos

[Anonymous No.15996901]

>>15996895
same, based btw.

[Anonymous No.15996903]

>>15996752
Looks like you can't stop stuffing your face with McDonald's you fat fucking spic

[Anonymous No.15996904]

>>15996892
>oris
>dead brand

oris is one of the most happening brands in the last 5 years

[Anonymous No.15996905]

>>15996903
i only ever see fat whites at mcdonalds not mexcian people

[Anonymous No.15996916]

I really want this. Gotta wait a few months, doesnt release until may/june. First watch that I know I'm buying day 1. I just hope it doesnt go outta stock. 6,000 pieces so I should be ok but you never know.

[Anonymous No.15996938]

>>15996916
price and size?

[Anonymous No.15996944]

>>15996938
shut the fuck up, google it

[Anonymous No.15996949]

>>15996944
no, you posted the watch, spoonfeed me

[Anonymous No.15996953]

This general is infested with forever alone social rejects. Watches won't make your life less miserable and pointless. Watches won't earn you respect. No one cares that you spent beyond your means on Swiss memes because you're too brain dead to realize when you're getting robbed.

[Anonymous No.15996961]

>>15996742
Movement autists hate it but I like mine and I don't really give a fuck, it runs.

Caveat the bracelet is trash and has absolutely no means to keep is from flying open randomly so I had to put mine on a nato, but all omegas of this era in the chrono line are going to be the same.

[Anonymous No.15996975]

>>15996953
i like watches

[Anonymous No.15996976]

>>15996953
Is that why you are here?

[Anonymous No.15996986]

>>15996953
i dont buy swiss.

[Anonymous No.15996992]

i need it bros..

[Anonymous No.15996996]

I'm seeing some Perlon straps that are "whole" and some that are in two parts. What's the difference / better?

[Anonymous No.15996999]

>>15996654
That's really amazing.

What was the greatest deviation you had from testing conditions to the real world?

Which modern and vintage watches you do you are the most underrated?

Thanks again fren! You're awesome!

[Anonymous No.15997003]

>>15996953
I know you are having buyer's remorse about your $45 Seiko but you don't have to lash out at the thread.

[Anonymous No.15997005]

recommend me a good, <=40mm watch for EDC. Budget $600
quartz or mech doesnt matter (but obviously not too shitty)
readability yes
preferably numerals
waterproof at least 100
good lume

[Anonymous No.15997013]

>>15997005
citizen chandler

[Anonymous No.15997018]

>>15996996
nato style (one piece) is more secure, if one springbar fails your watch will be still attached to your wrist. For two piece setup if a springbar fails your watch will hit the floor.

but two piece generally looks better, and the watch sits lower on your wirst. Also if you have a display caseback/decorated caseback this will not block it.

[Anonymous No.15997047]

im gonna kms on april. what's the best watch to wear before an heroing?

[Anonymous No.15997048]

>>15996670
I take the watch off. You’re probably fine doing anything sort of jack-hammering. Drumming etc will probably just make the watch run fast/slow over time.

[Anonymous No.15997060]

>>15997047
in april*

[Anonymous No.15997064]

>>15996809
What's the reference? Most Lord Matics were closer to 36 I think.
LMs and (automatic) King Seikos used the same movement families (56 from Suwa and 52 from Daini) so in that sense they are a lot closer than say Presage and GS lines today. More comparable to the lower vs. upper range of Presage maybe, also in style and quality.
Both movement lines are good thin modern automatics, best that Seiko put out before the quartz crisis. 52 movements are superior in specs, but 56 are also nice though they have some parts that age poorly. The KS versions are better jeweled and adjusted, and 56KS are 8bps when 56LM are 6bps (all 52 movements are 8bps).
$80 for a LM is a good price if it really is in good condition.
There are also Lord Marvels, which are an earlier line. They are hand winders, and not that special except the late ones with the 5740c movement, which was Seiko's first 10bps movement (and the 2nd in the world I think).

[Anonymous No.15997079]

>>15996659
Glad you liked it.

[Anonymous No.15997081]

>>15997064
Lord Quartz is what I'm looking at at the moment.
I believe it's 34mm, 35 with crown

[Anonymous No.15997090]

whats the point of this bezel?

its not a countdown bezel, its not a GMT bezel. So what is it for?

[Anonymous No.15997092]

>>15997090
for timing things by the minutes

[Anonymous No.15997098]

>>15997047
Vostok
has seen the bottom of many bottles
will help you through these times fren

[Anonymous No.15997114]

>>15996992
Get the GMT, it's absolutely worth the extra $

[Anonymous No.15997118]

>>15997114
what if I don't want a date or gmt

[Anonymous No.15997121]

>>15997118
Normally you would be right, but in this specific instance you are wrong.

[Anonymous No.15997128]

>>15997114
i'm only interested in the cream one

[Anonymous No.15997131]

thinking of getting an old soviet watch. is it worth it boys?

[Anonymous No.15997135]

>>15997081
Oh, one of those. In theory they are to King Quartz what LM was to KS. In practice, the design and finishing seems to be fairly bland for most Lord Quartzes I've seen, and clearly below King and Grand Quartzes of the same period. You can find much more interesting models for less from the Type II line-up and the difference in movements is not huge.

[Anonymous No.15997141]

>>15996892
They are just pumping out the occasional non-Richemont group post.

[Anonymous No.15997144]

>>15997131
having a hammer and sickle on your wrist is kinda cringe

[Anonymous No.15997148]

>>15997131
never seen one like that before.
You have to be very careful of frankens.
many cobbled together watches out there with zero history and only preying on tourists.

[Anonymous No.15997152]

>>15997005
https://www.jomashop.com/certina-watch-c001-410-44-037-00.html
https://www.jomashop.com/certina-watch-c034-407-11-087-00.html
https://www.jomashop.com/certina-watch-c022-430-16-081-00.html
(Make sure to look at the different dial options for the san martin) https://sanmartinwatches.com/wp/product/sn030-g/
https://longislandwatch.com/islander-automatic-field-watch-with-nylon-weave-strap-and-an-ar-sapphire-crystal-isl-41/
https://longislandwatch.com/islander-hi-beat-automatic-dress-watch-with-black-dial-ar-sapphire-crystal-isl-36/
https://longislandwatch.com/islander-automatic-dress-watch-isl-33/

[Anonymous No.15997154]

>>15996828
lift a weight

[Anonymous No.15997156]

Am I the only person on earth that hates the tudor snowflake hand

[Anonymous No.15997160]

>>15996834
lol, if you have a 6 inch wrist so should you bro

[Anonymous No.15997163]

>>15997156
It's not my favorite, but I like it more than the Rolex mercedes hand

[Anonymous No.15997166]

>>15997156
i think tudor is kinda a 'meh' brand but i dont hate the snowflake hand

why do you hate the snowflake hand?

[Anonymous No.15997168]

>>15997156
still better than Mercedes hands

[Anonymous No.15997177]

>>15997160
>>15997154
wrist size is generic and there are no muscles on the wrist so the only way to actually increase wrist size is to get fat. Like massively fat.

[Anonymous No.15997183]

>>15997177
genetic*

[Anonymous No.15997190]

>>15997156
>Am I the only person on earth that hates the tudor snowflake hand
I like it on the Pelagos where it matches the snowflake dial. It looks like boiled dogshit on the Black Bay, though.

[Anonymous No.15997197]

>>15997177
How fat are we talking here? Like Brando fat?

[Anonymous No.15997204]

>>15997197
>>15997177
i fell for this meme. from 50kg now im 75kg bloatmaxxing and my wrist is still 6.5"

[Anonymous No.15997207]

>>15997197
Lizzo fat

[Anonymous No.15997215]

>>15997144
couldn't give a fuck about communism I just like the watches

[Anonymous No.15997226]

>>15997215
>>15997131
what is the brand? where did you see it?

[Anonymous No.15997252]

>>15997135
Hmm, so Lord Quartz isn't a good choice?
I'm really confused by all the differences between them since they seem so large and minor at the same time.

A Seiko Quartz Type II would be 'better' than a Lord Quartz? Since I can find one of those for $40 working. That'll save me $20

[Anonymous No.15997256]

>>15997005
Citizen BM8180-03E

[Anonymous No.15997273]

Asked about this on yesterday's /wt/, about to buy my first ever watch, pic related.

https://www.sakurawatches.com/seiko-presage-japanese-garden-sary175

Opinions on this as my starter? I know some hate the open heart but fuck it I like.

Gonna order it tonight I think.

Thanks anons

[Anonymous No.15997277]

>>15997252
Oh and to add to that, what's up with silverware?
For quartzes is it:
Grand > King > Silverware > Type 2 > QT? > Lord???

[Anonymous No.15997283]

>>15997273
I don't like open hearts in general and especially open hearts on workhorse movements with no decoration... but as far as watches go that one is OK so get it if you want

[Anonymous No.15997298]

>>15997204
Y-you have to live it...

[Anonymous No.15997315]

>>15997273
open hearts and skeletons are chad choice, so get it

[Anonymous No.15997344]

>>15997226
Molnija. its on etsy. looked into this one more and it says some parts are from 2019 so im probably gonna look some where else it was just the first place i came across

[Anonymous No.15997356]

>>15997344
every single watch you see on etsy is a franken

[Anonymous No.15997367]

>>15997273
You will get bored of the open heart but its not a bad watch

[Anonymous No.15997369]

>>15996999
>What was the greatest deviation you had from testing conditions to the real world?

The deviation between the crown down position in static testing and the rate the watch actually runs when worn on the wrist can easily be +/- 5 SPD on lower end and/or lower beat movements. My personal experience with regulating watches is that I usually end up trying to juggle between the rate the watch runs dial up stationary for ~8 hours a night and the rate the watch runs on the wrist for ~16 hours to try and get the over and under to roughly cancel each other out. It was doing these regulations where I first started to notice that the rates that mechanical watches will run on the wrist are not the same as they will run in the same position(s) when stationary (i.e. crown down and crown right).

>Which modern and vintage watches you do you are the most underrated?

For vintage watches I would say the Seiko 701x chronograph is one of the more underrated models. I can't believe how cheap they remain on the vintage market considering that they have several models with stacked hour/minute chronograph hands on one subdial, and have a flyback mechanism. Those are some pretty damn high end features to find on a relatively early mass produced automatic chronograph movement.

Not sure for a modern one, I'd have to thinka bout it more.

>Thanks again fren! You're awesome!

To be clear, I'm not the poster with the huge collection you were talking to last thread, I just traded him a vintage watch for the King Seiko 45-7001 he owned, and I happen to have somewhat similar interests in watches as he does.

[Anonymous No.15997385]

>>15997005
Citizen PMD56-2952, if you can live with having to emulate the Japanese atomic sync frequency and the end links not having the tightest fit to the lugs.

39.5mm case, 45mm lug-to-lug, 12mm thick, 20mm strap width, titanium case with DLC coating, sapphire crystal with AR, highly readable, numerals, 100m waterproof with screw down crown, very good lume. ~$520 USD price.

[Anonymous No.15997399]

>>15997252
>>15997277
Type II was Seiko's first "affordable" line of quartz watches (so around the same price as mid-high range mechanicals instead of much more expensive), so in that sense it sits below Lord Quartz, but the differences in e.g. accuracy are minimal, especially after 50 years. There just seems to be much more variability and interesting designs in the Type IIs, including models that are outwardly very similar to late King and Grand Seikos.

The early lines of Seiko quartz are a bit confusing because they changed names and movements often as the development picked up speed.
After the very first ones they had the QT, QR and QZ lines from highest to lowest grade (these were labeled 2002, 3003 and 4004 for exports). Then those essentially became Grand, King and Lord Quartz. Then there was Superior, which was even higher and extremely expensive, and soon the (relatively) cheaper Type II was introduced.

Silverwave is more of a label for water proof sports models than a line-up of its own.

[Anonymous No.15997400]

>>15997344
its a frankenised pocket watch movement
you can see this if you just google it
i would not recommend people to touch etsy at all, especially if they are new to russian shit

even if you find legit ones they are grossly overpriced
just go on ebay and buy a raketa/vostok, after doing your homework

[Anonymous No.15997412]

>>15996558
>>15996576
>Sieg
Also you would be competing with Chinese cases, which is rough since you can buy basically any style case from them for cheap.

[Anonymous No.15997418]

>>15996892
Oris isn't a dead brand, and while most of their designs aren't my cup of tea they do offer very good external finishing for the price relative to their "Swiss" competitors.

[Anonymous No.15997447]

>>15997114
The colors are nice but an office gmt ain't my thing and I'm not sure about the stp movement.

[Anonymous No.15997472]

>>15997273
Do it
Just real quick take a look throw this shops selection of orients, thry make lots of open hear models, orient is owned by seiko but they do all their own manufacturing independently, they can be a better value than seiko watches. If you see one you like check the proce on ebay as sellers there can be cheaper than these export shops
https://www.sakurawatches.com/watches/orient-watches/
A few highlights, but you should look through all of them, again they might be available cheaper if you shop around.
https://japan-select.com/collections/orient/products/orient-star-modern-skeleton-rk-av0116l-limited-edition-made-in-japan-jdmのコピー
https://japan-select.com/collections/orient/products/orientstar-classic-semi-skeleton-rk-av0003s-made-in-japan
https://www.sakurawatches.com/orient-star-rk-au0003l
https://www.sakurawatches.com/orient-automatic-rn-ag0002s
https://www.sakurawatches.com/orient-automatic-rn-ag0003l

[Anonymous No.15997482]

>>15997412
there is no fighting
this is what san martin can do, with titanium no less
i think they can literally manufacture any case shape you want regardless of complexity
>>15996558
you will need to really, really, really emphasise the "made in UK" part

[Anonymous No.15997522]

GREAT brands that hipster contrarians do not like!

>Invicta
>MVMT
>Vincero
>Tissot
>Rolex
>Timex
>Diesel

[Anonymous No.15997533]

>>15997482
Why do chinese people have such awful taste.

Image what they could achieve with their total disregard for human life and a modicum of design talent.

[Anonymous No.15997538]

>>15997472
RK-AT0004S
https://www.sakurawatches.com/orient-star-contemporary-semi-skeleton-rk-at0004s

[Anonymous No.15997542]

>>15997533

[Anonymous No.15997547]

get in here poorfags.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXmLDqHt13s

[Anonymous No.15997554]

>fat plaid poster is back
Very based tbqhwyf

[Anonymous No.15997557]

>>15997533
>Why do chinese people have such awful taste
No souls

[Anonymous No.15997607]

>>15997538
That is hideous.

[Anonymous No.15997638]

>>15996903
HOLY FUCKING BASEDOLI

[Anonymous No.15997669]

My fellow MonsterChads, what straps do you like to wear your monster on? Stock bracelet, rubber ,something different? While not a big fan of NATOs in general, i think they really suit the monster and emphasize the cool case.

[Anonymous No.15997675]

>>15997399
Thank you so much for that explanation.
I'll look for a superior if I can get it. If not it'll be a King or a Lord.

[Anonymous No.15997721]

>>15997669
stingray leather

[Anonymous No.15997723]

>>15997114
Why not just get a Monta then?

[Anonymous No.15997783]

>>15997369
Thank you for the info!

Is there a theme around your collection like accuracy anon?

If so, what's your favorite timepiece and what's your grail?

Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.15997817]

>>15997783
His favorite is either the 45ks or the lemania 5100 speedmaster, and grail is 4580-7010.

[Anonymous No.15997826]

I have a Citizen Corso BM7100-59E like the one in the pic.
Is it possible to change the band on this to use a leather one instead? I've tried to find an answer on this and keep getting conflicting opinions on it.
Also, how difficult would the switch be and what would I need to do it? I'd prefer to take it to a shop and have them do it but I live in a really rural area and it would be more hassle than it's worth

[Anonymous No.15997868]

>>15997177
You’re right, it is genetic. Which means you are “genetic”-ally inferior and need to transition to a woman so your horrible fucked genes don’t pass on and sully the human race. Fucking loser.

[Anonymous No.15997880]

>>15997197
federico

[Anonymous No.15997890]

>>15997273
Ordered it. Expect shitty quality wrist pics in a week or two.

Thanks anons

[Anonymous No.15997891]

It’s possible. It’s easy

[Anonymous No.15997895]

>>15997826
It should be easy ti change, post a picture of the back of the watch, show where the bracelet is attached to the case

[Anonymous No.15997901]

>>15996949
$1500, 40mm

[Anonymous No.15997916]

>>15997826
Just get a strap change tool

[Anonymous No.15997939]

>>15997895

[Anonymous No.15997945]

>>15997939
Yes, you can pop the band off
Looks like 20mm band

[Anonymous No.15997964]

>>15997945
I thought so but saw where some people said that you couldn't and I didn't want to get into it and fuck it up.
I believe its a 22mm, I already have a Barton that I bought for another watch that I never used

[Anonymous No.15997972]

>>15997939
Yeah you need a springbar tool, you can get a cheap on aliexpress or ebay, the pastebin in the OP has suggestions for strap brands, plenty of cheap affordable straps out there.
Plenty of videos on youtube that will how you have to change watch straps.

[Anonymous No.15997977]

>>15997964
>I thought so but saw where some people said that you couldn't and I didn't want to get into it and fuck it up.
I don't know what retards told you that but that's obviously a normal spring bar connection and there is actually a generous amount of space for you to be able to get a tool in there and pop it off. It takes like 5 minutes to learn how to do it, look up a youtube video.

[Anonymous No.15997982]

>>15997939
>>15997972
It actually might be easier with a set of springbar pliers like pic related, i paid about $10 for a one, even cheaper if you order from china. These squeeze both sides at once, should make it easier to get that solid endlink off.

[Anonymous No.15997987]

>>15997817
What about you?

[Anonymous No.15998009]

>>15997916
>>15997945
>>15997972
>>15997977
>>15997982
Thanks for the help.
Will report back on my success or failure.
Either way you should get a laugh out of it at the least

[Anonymous No.15998016]

>>15997783
>Is there a theme around your collection like accuracy anon?

In general I really enjoy highly functional designs. In vintage watches this draws me towards highly functional, series produced, late pre-quartz era mechanical watches that were relied upon as functional timekeeping tools and not just fashion accessories or status signaling devices.

I have a King Seiko 45-7001, King Seiko 5256-8010, a Rolex Datejust 16233 (my father's) and an Omega Speedmaster Mark 4.5 with the Lemania 5100 movement that fit within this theme. I am eventually looking to add an Omega with a 564 movement, a GP HF Chronometer, a Seiko 7016 chronograph, and a few other things down the road in keeping with this theme.

For modern watches I just tend to buy any watch where I like the design and quality for the price, though still with a preference for highly functional and/or austere designs. I enjoy both digital and analogue watches, both mechanical and quartz. The quality just has to be right for the price in my eyes, and I have to like the design.

>If so, what's your favorite timepiece and what's your grail?

As >>15997817 guessed, my favourite would by my 1972 King Seiko 45-7001 because it combines extremely impressive mechanical accuracy with a very austere expression of Seiko's grammar of design styling language, which I quite like.

My grail watch would be a Dufour Simplicity in 37mm with the roman numeral dial (pic related).

>>15997817
No need for a 4580-7010, I already have a 45xx and it's precision and accuracy are so good that I wouldn't see the point of chasing a VFA.

[Anonymous No.15998026]

>>15998016
>cut numberals

[Anonymous No.15998034]

Best dials of all time? Major bonus points for guilloche. Doesn't matter if it's a €200 shitter or 100 times that, as long as the dial is sexy

[Anonymous No.15998039]

>>15998034
I have a soft spot for linen dials.

[Anonymous No.15998065]

>>15996462
if you cant afford rolex or better just dont wear a watch. its fucking cringe

[Anonymous No.15998076]

>>15998034

[Anonymous No.15998082]

>15998065
if you cant come up with better bait then just stop posting. its fucking cringe

[Anonymous No.15998088]

>>15997721
Kino choice. I'm considering selling my monster but a stingray strap and a double dome crystal would jazz it up really nicely...

[Anonymous No.15998092]

>>15998082
>going out of your way just to not (you) someone
lmao pathetic
and its not bait you faggot. watches are a completely unnecessary luxury. if you are wearing a shitty unnecessary luxury you should honestly kys

[Anonymous No.15998097]

lazy faggot, try harder

[Anonymous No.15998100]

>>15998034

[Anonymous No.15998101]

>>15998065
Based and truthpilled

[Anonymous No.15998110]

>>15998065
Kinda true about "nice" watches.
$4-5k shuld be the absolute minimum.

[Anonymous No.15998111]

What's everyone wearing then? For me it's the HiTech.

[Anonymous No.15998115]

>>15998034

[Anonymous No.15998118]

>>15998115

[Anonymous No.15998135]

>>15998118
There is a constellation day/date with this dial that I have been thinking about getting. Its neat

[Anonymous No.15998141]

>>15997533
its a underwater mine, retard

[Anonymous No.15998142]

so many shitters. whats everyones one watch?

[Anonymous No.15998152]

>>15998065
>mfw used to own a squale

[Anonymous No.15998157]

>>15998034
That dial is kind of awful to look at.

[Anonymous No.15998160]

>>15998157
>tfw kind of gay to look at

[Anonymous No.15998166]

>>15998157
no u
every tile's position is exactly mirrored on the other end
this is jap autism at its finest

[Anonymous No.15998173]

>>15996462
What kind of strap do you think I should get for my GS? Was thinking about getting a leather strap to wear it on occasionally

Not necessarily after suggestions of brands, but more style and colour, what do you reckon fags? I am after something a bit more interesting than a matte black calf skin

[Anonymous No.15998177]

>>15998173
For a black watch you can only go: black or brown and then the choices are tweed or leather

[Anonymous No.15998180]

>>15998173
Some sort of black rally strap.

[Anonymous No.15998192]

>>15998173
A nice fine grained black lizard skin, a really top grade one would be indeal, drop a few hundo it.
A nice black ray skin, unsanded and with the rib or whatever the white part is called, pic related.
Black perlon for the summer
One of those good quality german made milanase straps in IP coated black

[Anonymous No.15998194]

>>15998142
>The Invertor Automatic is a groundbreaking new design as it's the world's first independent watch with an inverted movement retailing under $20,000. The winding automatic rotor is displayed on the front of the watch instead of the underside, giving the wearer a true appreciation for the mechanical beauty of this machine.

>In order to create the Invertor, we developed a new proprietary module for the Miyota 9000 calibre automatic movement. The module mechanically makes the watch run backwards, but when the movement is positioned in the case upside down, time reads correctly.

>The unique curved case and crystal shape as well as the impressive mechanics allow you to see the time and automatic rotor in the same glance. Each watch colorway is limited to 999 individually numbered pieces.

[Anonymous No.15998198]

>>15998173
A coal black harris tweed strap

[Anonymous No.15998199]

>>15998194

[Anonymous No.15998219]

>>15998166
it may be jap autism and technically impressive but I've seen it in person and it doesn't look attractive at all.

[Anonymous No.15998227]

>>15998173
Here is a fantastic price on an alligator embossed rubber strap made in Switzerland by biwi.
https://ravenwatches.com/products/20mm-caoutchouc-rubber-alligator-swiss-made

[Anonymous No.15998248]

>>15998219
Not the guy you're replying to, but I have also seen it in person and I thought it was fantastic. I'd also say the general consensus on that dial seems to be overwhelmingly positive.

[Anonymous No.15998254]

>>15998173
Are you looking to dress the watch up with a leather strap? Or just to have a non-bracelet alternative for casual wear?

[Anonymous No.15998257]

>>15997607
>>15997538
I like it. It's very bold and confident in itself. This contrasts nicely with the relatively more calm branding at the bottom too.

[Anonymous No.15998325]

>>15998173
Some kind of exotic leather, pic related is beaver tail and sea snake

[Anonymous No.15998333]

>>15998173
An exotic leather like beaver tail or sea snake

[Anonymous No.15998344]

>>15998034

[Anonymous No.15998349]

Synchrobeat made it just over 48 hours on a full wind. Still needs a service with low amplitude but apparently in pretty decent shape.

[Anonymous No.15998390]

>>15998034

[Anonymous No.15998394]

>>15998349
Nice! Glad to hear that. Finding someone trustworthy to service that thing might be a challenge. Hopefully you find someone up to the task.

[Anonymous No.15998428]

>>15997669
how much would a black 2nd gen monster fetch on ebay? no prospex logo
it runs fast after i dropped it face down and it's pretty beat
like 40 bucks?
had it in my younger days and honestly find it hideous now but to each their own

[Anonymous No.15998436]

>>15998344
How is this not better than Seiko?

[Anonymous No.15998449]

>>15998034

[Anonymous No.15998456]

>>15998428
Someone ITT would probably pay you $40 for it, a couple monster collectors here. Post pic

[Anonymous No.15998457]

>>15998428
>the best monster
>$40

more like $400

[Anonymous No.15998470]

>>15998254
Non bracelet alternative fren

[Anonymous No.15998473]

>>15998457
mines in poor condition
>>15998456
one sec

[Anonymous No.15998488]

>>15998473

[Anonymous No.15998495]

>>15998470
If you like vintage style two stitch straps, you can try one of them. I think they look nice that kind of watch.

[Anonymous No.15998501]

>>15998488
Yeah someone will buy that, it's scratched up but it's not beat to shit or anything. Post about it with pic next thread, this thread is super slow on the weekend, make a email address people can contact you at on cock.li or protonmail or something.

[Anonymous No.15998504]

>>15998428
I feel the same about mine a little but. Still a cool watch, but definitely a young man's watch.
>>15998488
Doesnt look awful. Although, I have to say that orange>black

[Anonymous No.15998533]

>>15998501
>>15998504
thanks

[Anonymous No.15998557]

Are swatches good? Im eyeing the yvs470

[Anonymous No.15998561]

>>15998557
no but they were pretty popular at one point so a lot of people will recognize them. some are kind of fun looking but most are too big

[Anonymous No.15998592]

>>15998557
Shell out a bit more for this certina ds 2
It's better in every way, high end quartz movement, sapphire crystal, okay water resistance.
It's a but thicker than the swatch but otherwise around the same size
https://www.jomashop.com/certina-watch-c024-447-16-051-03.html

[Anonymous No.15998644]

>>15997131
That looks like a modern watch made to sell to tourists rather than anything vintage >>15997135

[Anonymous No.15998710]

About to pull the trigger. Talk me out of it

[Anonymous No.15998715]

>>15998710
honestly that stands out among other divers without being a sub
sorry i won't talk you out of it

[Anonymous No.15998720]

>>15998710
Spend the extra coin for the SPB149 if you can swing it, otherwise go for it it's a great design.

[Anonymous No.15998722]

>>15998710
I can't.

[Anonymous No.15998746]

Can someone identify the watches on the guys in the middle and on the right please?

[Anonymous No.15998748]

>>15998720
Err i meant the SPB143J1 i see those up for around a grand

[Anonymous No.15998766]

>>15998488
>>15998533
How can I contact you? I’ll buy it from you

[Anonymous No.15998784]

My wrist is exactly 6 inches, should i buy a baby turtle?

[Anonymous No.15998803]

Grand Seiko is doing another seasons series, this time with one of their gmt models.
Peep this dial

[Anonymous No.15998807]

>>15998803
https://wornandwound.com/grand-seiko-introduces-a-new-series-of-gmt-watches-based-on-the-changing-seasons/

[Anonymous No.15998816]

>>15996903
BTFUCKINGO

[Anonymous No.15998818]

>>15998807
That wave dial might be my favorite GS dial to date

[Anonymous No.15998822]

>>15998818
https://www.grand-seiko.com/us-en/news/pressrelease/20210225-1

[Anonymous No.15998879]

>>15998803
this is beautiful

[Anonymous No.15998900]

https://youtu.be/dadhk7nktkw
its another window shopping episode

[Anonymous No.15998901]

BROS I CAN'T WEAR 36mm WATCHES BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO FUCKIN SMALL ON MY WRIST BUT I LOVE SO MANY DESIGNS AT THAT SIZE. WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO FUUUUCCKKKKKKK

[Anonymous No.15998905]

>>15998901
Get into divers instead

[Anonymous No.15998911]

>>15998900
why the fuck does he sound like a commiefornia faggot?

[Anonymous No.15998920]

>>15998905
This has been my daily for about a year. I have the 41mm version and even that feels slightly little I dunno maybe I'm just a dumb fuck

[Anonymous No.15998970]

>>15998901
Hide your big watches. Wear a small watch for a week. It will start to look natural and you will love it. Remember, there was a time when no one wore anything larger than 34mm.

[Anonymous No.15998981]

>>15998900
Could he have picked a shittier watch for the money than that garbage IWC? To add insult to injury, those large numerals aren't even lume painted, none of them are on their larp pilot chronos.

[Anonymous No.15998986]

>>15998981
>aren't even lume painted, none of them are on their larp pilot chronos.
????????????????????

[Anonymous No.15998994]

>>15998981
>>15998986
Imagine buying a modern pilots watch and the numerals aren't even lumed. I wouldn't be able to stand the embarrassment, frankly.

[Anonymous No.15999001]

https://www.chrono24.com/fortis/classic-cosmonauts-chronograph-ceramic-pm-4012611-l10--id5797990.htm

Weren't these like 2k? Am I going insane?

[Anonymous No.15999028]

>>15998710
Buy 3

[Anonymous No.15999037]

>>15999001
Get a lightly used marine master limited reissue for $1500 instead
https://www.chrono24.com/fortis/fortis-marinemaster-chronograph-limited-edition-vintage-watch-8002085-l01--id16942489.htm

[Anonymous No.15999062]

Rate this fortis "B-47 Calculator GMT Limited"

[Anonymous No.15999066]

>>15999062

[Anonymous No.15999070]

>>15996992

[Anonymous No.15999073]

>>15999062
Just looking at that makes me want to kill myself

[Anonymous No.15999088]

>>15999037
I'll just get another ETA shitter with the same layout that's probably three times cheaper. Unless everything went up while I wasn't looking.

[Anonymous No.15999102]

>>15998986

[Anonymous No.15999106]

>>15999001
>>15999088
If you can afford a 2k watch you can afford a 4k one. Watch market is blowing up because people are bored and it's affecting all brands unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.15999120]

>>15999106
Yeah and if you can afford a 4k watch, you can afford a Rolex, so no point in buying anything else, nice to see the trolls are still here.

[Anonymous No.15999125]

>>15998818
>>15998822
Impressive dials, but the case looks soulless and borderline mallshittery.

[Anonymous No.15999140]

>>15998981
>To add insult to injury, those large numerals aren't even lume painted, none of them are on their larp pilot chronos.
wtf? lmao
literally worse than aliexpess watches

[Anonymous No.15999141]

>>15999125
Yeah it's not my favorite model, i don't really like the inner gmt indices and the short gmt hand.

[Anonymous No.15999156]

My collection:
>Omega Seamaster Professional Diver 300M (ca. 2017), ref. 212.30.41.20.03.001
>Zenith Captain Automatic Chronometre (ca. 1968), ref. 3050686
>Girard-Perregaux Consul Quartz (ca. 1985), cal. 843

Recommendations for complementary pieces?

Pic related is of the correct Zenith reference but is someone else's watch because every single photo I take of any watch ends up looking like trash

[Anonymous No.15999167]

>>15998803
>>15998807
>>15998818
>>15998822

Sorry to the GS fans but I really dislike these textured dials; I think they're tacky and won't age well.

[Anonymous No.15999234]

>>15999062

[Anonymous No.15999257]

>>15998901
lose some wight

[Anonymous No.15999291]

>>15998901
You can. Just get used to it

[Anonymous No.15999379]

Post collections, planned purchases?

Pretty happy as of now (ask me next month) lusting after a Reverso

[Anonymous No.15999381]

I really like sun and moon watches. What's a good looking one?

[Anonymous No.15999391]

>>15998194
Is horology an arm's race of weaponized autism?

[Anonymous No.15999398]

>>15998034

[Anonymous No.15999410]

>>15999398
i really wish the watches from Beijing Watch Factory that use this movement looked better.
Im not a huge fan of this dial texture and I hate the date window.

[Anonymous No.15999411]

>>15999410
That movement is so nice for a $500 watch

[Anonymous No.15999415]

>>15997256
Based.

[Anonymous No.15999421]

>>15999120
>if you can afford a 4k watch, you can afford a Rolex, so no point in buying anything else
I mean you could want a watch from a brand that hasn't been resting on it's laurels for the last 30 years.

[Anonymous No.15999423]

>>15999415
Only escorts wear watches

[Anonymous No.15999424]

>>15999120
There are a lot better watches at Rolex prices.

[Anonymous No.15999452]

why 2 watch threads?

[Anonymous No.15999470]

>>15998488
I'll buy it from you.

Email me at [e-mail]

[Anonymous No.15999477]

>>15998533
See
>>15999470
I only own one watch and It's a Vostok.

[Anonymous No.15999508]

Zenith has now discontinued the 38mm, it's not on their site anymore. They rather make a daytona homage. I see we are back to reatard decisions at Zenith.

[Anonymous No.15999517]

>>15999508
We still got the 37mm revival. If they manage to discontinue that too before I can save up I'll rope myself

[Anonymous No.15999532]

>>15999517
>>15999508

This it the reason Zenith does not have that iconic definitive model. Like the sub, speedy, reverso and so on.

The homage daytona and not discontinuing the 38mm and 42mm origina, I think I want to stay clear of the brand.

[Anonymous No.15999571]

>>15999508
lmao the week I actually start lusting for one
funny it just became more "grail" worthy

[Anonymous No.15999574]

>>15999379
Nice collection anon. Which watch do you wear the most?
Also always wondered since I've never handled one, how accurate are the nomos?

[Anonymous No.15999586]

>>15996462
Sorry for the shit house pic. But I had these out playing around and thought I'd post them

[Anonymous No.15999589]

>>15999586
Those stopwatches are pretty neat. Also is that chrono one of the 701x's?

[Anonymous No.15999599]

>>15999589
The chrono is a 6139-6002. The stopwatches are pretty interesting, they were used as a rally timer for someone, I bought them after I won a bit of money on a pokie (slot machine)

[Anonymous No.15999602]

>>15999599
>they were used as a rally timer for someone
Pretty cool. Does that mean they were actually bolted into a rally car then?

[Anonymous No.15999608]

>>15999602
Yeah, I have the clips he used to mount them around somewhere, the clips aren't anything special, but I purchased it from a bloke who was really into rally and purchased it from someone who was finally upgrading to digital timing on one of his rally cars

[Anonymous No.15999609]

>>15999379
I daily the seamaster and wind and wear one of the others warches for a day. Nomos are very accurate, adjusted to 6 positions, the orion is +0 the club auto is +1 and my old Club black dial was +1

[Anonymous No.15999614]

doesn't seem like people in here are really fuckin with digital watches but, I don't think I will ever want for another watch since i got a casio gmw-b5000-d. it's basically perfect. maybe eventually I'll get the all black one and call it a day

[Anonymous No.15999617]

>>15999614
>Bluetooth
And yeah that's what every kid thinks when he's still in his socially awkward phase, then they get on roids get a real suit get a real job and a real life, and they can't wear a kid's watch anymore.

[Anonymous No.15999621]

>>15999617
huh? lol OK whatever you say man

[Anonymous No.15999633]

>>15999614
there are gshockfags here, same for almost every other genre of watches. Except invicta.

personally i own a casioak

>gmw-b5000-d
whats the difference between buying this and modding a dw5600? besides the looks

[Anonymous No.15999643]

>>15999633
more bells and whistles. the module is nicer, thicker/heavier, it's all stainless steel, no plastic anywhere. solar charging, radio sync, bluetooth sync. they use the STN lcd screens on the GMW line, which means that if you get a negative display one it actually has OK viewing angles. and most importantly for me, it drove me insane to not be able to see the current time in timer/stopwatch mode on the 5610 that I have (not sure if the dw5600 is also like this) and they fixed that on this one

[Anonymous No.15999656]

What watch is this?

[Anonymous No.15999770]

Are vintage Oyster Perpetuals waterproof?

[Anonymous No.15999778]

>>15999770
No, if they don't specifically tell you how water resistant is then it's 30-50 at best and that means that the watch might be able to get wet briefly but if it's submerged in water for even a second it could be done for

[Anonymous No.15999780]

>>15999770
always assume vintage watches are not waterproof because the rubber o-ring will/can develop cracks over time

[Anonymous No.15999870]

>>15999770
As long as they are in good condition yes. That is why they are called Oyster after all.

[Anonymous No.15999925]

>>15999517
I would like this watch if it weren't for the gaping holes in the bracelet

[Anonymous No.15999932]

>>15999778
What do you think the oyster case implies retard. Anything in a oyster case is at least 100 meters however they need to be serviced and have seals checked.

[Anonymous No.15999950]

>>15999932
>What do you think the oyster case implies retard.
Overpriced

[Anonymous No.15999956]

>>15999508
They got biver'd

[Anonymous No.15999962]

>>15999932
>it is waterproof
>however it needs to be serviced and have its waterproofing checked

[Anonymous No.15999972]

>>15999780
Watch fags can't buy an oring and put it in? Kek

[Anonymous No.15999977]

>>15999972
but thats not the question, dumbass

thats different from assuming the crusty watch you bought off ebay is still waterproof and then running it under the sink

[Anonymous No.15999983]

>waiting 10 weeks for your AnOrdain Model 1 to be made and shipped

Help me

[Anonymous No.15999999]

>>15998194
What happened with the crown?

[Anonymous No.16000037]

>>15999999

Okay hi guys I am SO impressed by your six, SUCCESSIVE digits. Wear them in good health, an absolute capolavoro.

[Anonymous No.16000095]

>>15999999
nice.

[Anonymous No.16000111]

>>15999508
I noticed this too, but they still have the 38mm A386 reissue on the "store" section of their site as well as several A384 models. I don't think Zenith runs a particularly well-organized website so I wouldn't take it as truly indicative of their current production.

[Anonymous No.16000140]

>>15999156
Bumping this.

[Anonymous No.16000151]

>>15999770
Don't assume any vintage watch has any water resistance. It may have some water resistance, may not; best not to risk it. Take it to a professional who can evaluate the quality of the gaskets (and replace any if possible/necessary) as well as the sealing of the case back/crown/etc.

[Anonymous No.16000224]

>>15999956
does biver fuck up the size of watches or something?

[Anonymous No.16000232]

>>15999999
Impressive.

[Anonymous No.16000240]

>>15999062
Looks cool as fuck from a design perspective, if you could learn to read it effectively.

[Anonymous No.16000245]

>>16000224
He's the man behind the success of Hublot so his career was built on making fucked up watches.

[Anonymous No.16000266]

>>16000245
Biver's career has been built on applying modern marketing principles to the Swiss watch industry and encouraging brands to ignore the limitations of tradition and good taste and to just make whatever tasteless oversized shit that sells, regardless of the medium-to-long term reputational damage it does to the brand.

He is one of the people who "saved" the Swiss watch industry during the quartz crisis essentially by throwing away the traditional design and manufacturing that made it special, reallocating large sums of money from manufacturing to marketing, and chasing short term profits at all costs. Biver is up there with Nicolas Hayek (who founded The Swatch Group) in being responsible for how cancerous the modern Swiss watchmaking industry has become.

[Anonymous No.16000276]

>>16000266
I hear you but what other option did the swiss really have?
Keep making traditional shit that no one will buy? They were between a rock and a hard place and their two other main national pastimes of banking and mercenaries kinda aren't something you want to be exclusively known for.
Other than mountains. They have nice mountains.

[Anonymous No.16000278]

>>16000266
If it wasn't for business men like him, the luxury watch industry would have been sold to the Japanese, who would have ran it all into the ground.

[Anonymous No.16000279]

>>15999379
>planned purchases
Maybe some flavor of Grand Seiko if I get a wild hair up my ass this year.

[Anonymous No.16000283]

>>16000266
What's wrong with Nicolas Hayek? Nice dubs btw

[Anonymous No.16000285]

>>16000111

It was on their site, I have been watching them on the Grey Market dry up and price increase as well. I think it gone, they want to push the new daytona homage as the next el primero, the state of zenith. I near bought into the brand as well, I'm glad I went with JLC

https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/el-primero-chronomaster-38mm-discontinued.5275954/

[Anonymous No.16000293]

>>16000276
>>16000266
The market for watches is changing since the recent explosion of modern Rolex. Thanks to the internet, mechanical watches have been hotter than they've been in 3+ decades. People are looking back to tradition. The oversized trend will go away.

[Anonymous No.16000298]

>>16000276
The option would have been to try and preserve the legacy brands in fact not just in name while still modernizing them. And it is in fact the case that the brands that best preserved their traditions and manufacturing capabilities while modernizing ended up preserving the most long-term value (e.g. Rolex), while the brands that most totally threw away their traditions are mostly all looked down upon (Longines, Zenith for multiple decades, Omega for a few decades, etc.)


>>16000278
The Japanese actually respect tradition. If Seiko had gotten their hands on Omega/Lemania/Tissot they would have at least tried to preserve the design and manufacturing talents of those brands rather than throwing them all away to put Omega and Tissot labels on conglomerate produced shitters for a few decades.

>>16000283
Hayek brought together several traditional watch brands under The Swatch Group and then promptly liquidated those brands independent design and manufacturing capabilities, essentially turning them into marketing departments for generic ETA powered watches all made in the same manufacturing chain and just having different labels put on them. The Omega, Tissot, Hamilton, etc. that exist today have no real connection to those brand's histories and traditions except the names and design IP.

[Anonymous No.16000306]

>>16000285
Sad if this is true as I thought the 38mm reference with the blue dial was Zenith's best current production watch and was one I had my eye on. The Chronomaster Sport does nothing for me for several reasons beyond the similarities to the Daytona. For instance, from what I have seen, the finishing of the dial is not particularly good & I particularly dislike the design of the counters which look like plastic. The design of the limited edition "striking tenth" El Primero with the ceramic bezel was leagues more distinctive and premium looking than the Chronomaster Sport (pic related).

Zenith like all companies is trying to simplify its production line and by all accounts the cal. 3600 is simpler/easier to produce than the original El Primero movement so one can understand why they would throw their eggs in that basket.

Which JLC did you get?

[Anonymous No.16000314]

Do you think Breitling and TAG are headed in the right direction?

[Anonymous No.16000334]

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>>15997177
I did research into this; while wrist size is genetic it is also developmental. As we have established wrist size is basically all bone(unless you're fat but you'd have to be truly fat to see any difference), well it turns out the thickness of bone is affected during development by physical use. If you have to chew tougher foods as a child you will have a stronger jawline and if you do more physical activity involving your arms as a child(like playing sports or helping your dad mend things) the bones in your arms will grow thicker.