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i think these are fairly broad in appeal so m posting here instead of in some general. what makes a good trench coat, and how do i pick one out? is it wool gabardine or bust? what colour is most versetile? is it worth going for milsurp ones? i dress more trad but ive noticed as ive done so my wardrobe is less able to deal with wet weather, so im looking to deal with that by investing in a good dedicated wet weather coat and hat.

also, id beeswax my best bet for waterproofing suede shoes? thinking of thrifting a pair of suede chukkas over summer and waxing them after restoring them.

>> No.15911718

>>15911689
If you want to deal with wet weather, consider an umbrella or a technical hardshell. Trenchcoats are barely waterproof, waterproof hats are either thick felt or, again, technical fabrics.

>> No.15911735

>>15911718
wouldnt it vary with tightness of weave and lanolin content?

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>>15911689
Go thriftshopping. That's what I did.
And I find belts on trench coats extremely feminine, I prefer the ones without them.
They always come in camel or beige, anything else is weird and you should avoid it.
You need to try it on while wearing something like a shirt and a blazer, it shouldn't be too adherent as a trench coat is supposed to go over your suit/full outfit.
But not too loose either.

>> No.15911866

>>15911852
thats the plan, anon. theres no point paying full price for these when theres so many on the market in good condition.

i dont typically wear a suit, but i do wear sports coats. i will likely try it on with a sports jacket and a sweater and confirm it fits well with both.

are none of the green and olive milsurp trench coats worth having, or are they just no good?

any thoughts on fabric?

>> No.15911875

>>15911689
>beeswax my best bet for waterproofing suede shoes?
i'd like to know the answer as well

>> No.15912044

>>15911875
seems like its a bad call from the looks of things. ruins the suede texture and leaves you with something more resembling timberlands boots. ill look into some kind of spray on waterproofer like the sapphir stuff instead.

>> No.15912045

>>15911718
I would disagree, I have a london fog trench and despite it being 100% cotton it's super waterproof, though I would agree it's best used with an umbrella rather than a hat. With a hat you'll still get a wet face if there's wind not to mention you can share an umbrella with someone.
>>15911852
I'd say the belt is nice to have, it gives shape to your silhouette when you have the coat closed up and if you don't like it you could always just let it hang down.

>> No.15912049

>>15911689
>also, id beeswax my best bet for waterproofing suede shoes?
waxed suede looks gross, just get galoshes.

>> No.15912056

>>15912045
cotton is absolutely, absolutely not waterproof. what you're experiencing here is either the cotton being thick enough that only the outside is getting soaked, or the cotton has been treated with some wax/DWR coating.

This can be corroborated by googling "is cotton waterproof".

that being said, if you're not getting dumped on, a lot of things can double as "waterproof", or the outer bit is gonna get soaked but it's not raining hard enough/i'm not outside long enough for it to be an issue

OP, your real answer is a 3 layer Gore-Tex (or similar material) with taped seams. anything else won't hold up under intense rain

>> No.15912086

>>15912045
whats your opinion on london fog?

>>15912056
you know what gabardine cloth is right?

>> No.15912100

>>15912086
gabardine is water resistant, not water proof

https://us.burberry.com/customer-service/faqs/is-the-burberry-trench-coat-waterproof/

>Our Heritage Trench Coats are not waterproof, the Heritage Trench Coat is designed to protect the wearer against rain and made from water-repellent cotton gabardine, a fabric invented by Thomas Burberry in 1879. The innovative cloth is woven from fine, compacted cotton in a structure that prevents water from permeating the fabric.

again, holding up to light/moderate rain is not what waterproof means

>> No.15912118

>>15912100
im not expecting 100% polyester levels of water resistance, im still going to be wearing water permeable trousers and shoes with this. if it can keep me dry its got a place in my wardrobe. theres also, thats a cotton gabardine. i would ideally want a wool one.

>> No.15912125

>>15911852
This is pretty good but the shoes are terrible

>> No.15912139

>>15912100
Cotton gabardine is pretty close to waterproof when properly treated with spray-on DWR. So is modern poly-cotton blend like you see in US military DSCP coats. Just clean and retreat at the end of the wet seasons to maintain the water repellency. Waxed cotton/tincloth/oilskin is another option if you're into more heritage type stuff. it's a little more work to maintain though. Gortex is really overrated unless you're doing high performance /out/ stuff and I sincerely doubt anyone here is rising to that level.

>> No.15912158

>>15912139
>>15912118

i get it u guys, which is why i said

>or the cotton has been treated with some wax/DWR coating.

i do like to go /out/ though so i get that i'm being autistic about this

>> No.15912471

>>15912056
I'm well aware of the properties of cotton fibers, I considered the possibility of the coat having a DWR coating but given the coat is 40 odd years old I doubt any coating is left if it was ever there. In my experience my coat lasts about 20 minutes in heavy rain before the fabric starts to look damp, but it only ever gets slightly damp on the outside. Dense twill holds up pretty well against rain even if it's cotton, I'm sure good enough for OP. It is also entirely possible to make waterproof fabric from cotton, ventile is very cool but expensive and hard to come by.

>>15912086
I go thrifting a lot and here's my take; london fog's new offerings aren't great(feel cheap) but vintage pieces are pretty solid, not quite as nice as vintage burberry raincoats(design is a little less nice and obviously doesn't have the brand cachet) but not much worse either. Overall pretty good for something you can find in every thrift shop.

>> No.15912524

>>15912471
the usual "shun new, acquire vintage" that goes foe most overcoats then?

also, any thoughts on the milsurp trench coats out there? the US issue a wool gabardine trench coat in green.

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>>15911852
>I prefer the ones without them.

You mean... the executive?

>> No.15913023

>>15912524
I have seen some nice modern trench coats but all the ones that have impressed me have been quite pricey. So yes, as with overcoats, the only good modern offerings are very expensive. I don't have any experience with milsurp trench coats but my concerns would be possibly unflattering cut(though a trench is supposed to be big and drapey) and dark colors, which aren't easy to style well when it comes to trench coats. My advice if you're considering something dark color is make sure it's a warm tone.

>> No.15913516

>>15912589
keked

>> No.15913534

>>15912471
>vintage burberry raincoats

What happened to Burberry? Their coats seem to have dropped a lot in quality in just the last 5 years.

>> No.15913538

>>15911852
>And I find belts on trench coats extremely feminine
Maybe you just look feminine. The belt should properly emphasize a masculine frame.

>> No.15913781

This is probably the best thread to ask, what’s a good reputable umbrella company? I live in rural England. I don’t want to say money is no object, but living where I do I can justify a more expensive one within reason.

>> No.15913883

>>15913023
noted, much apppreciated my man. will stay away from the cool colours.

>>15913534
burberry cap mate innit

>> No.15914061

>>15913538
Look at the OP, it just makes you look like a flaming faggot by drawing attention to your waist, ending up looking like a dress.

>> No.15914230

>>15913781
Supermarkets or if you can be arsed, get one of those wind proof ones from amazon.

>> No.15914321

>>15914230
So not the £200 bespoke ones I’ve been looking at?

>> No.15914394

what boots for rainy weather do you recommend?

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>>15914061
Mate I don't know what to tell you, having a snatched waist has been considered a masculine trait since forever.

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Move over virgins, Chad duster coming through.

>> No.15915282

>>15914394
?????

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>>15915282

>> No.15915900

>>15915253
mantracker

>> No.15915904

>>15914615
snowplow or slalom ski twink goes both ways! nothing like sucking a cock in the jacuzzi after a day burning your legs on the slopes. Wow now my ass is burning!

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>>15915253

>> No.15916562

>>15911689
Don't buy a trenchcoat for a year or two, wait to see what Tisci does at Burberry

>> No.15916818

>>15916562
i exclusively thrift

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>>15915253

>> No.15917050

>>15914394
>>15915282
classic L. L. Bean boots faggot
unless you're not white in which case idk Tims or smth

>> No.15917346

>>15914394
depends, where are you going in the rain?

>>15915853
>not at least capped
shig

>> No.15917487

>>15914394
Unless you'll be standing in the rain for hours, any good leather boot will be fine.