/wt/ - Watch Thread

[Anonymous No.15867595]

This thread is about the appreciation of watches and their design, their history, and the engineering and materials that are required to make a functioning timepiece.

Guides:
> Poorfag guide: https://m.imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
> Watch essentials 102: https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV
> Purchasing used watches: https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2
> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE

Should I buy this MVMT / DW / "minimalist" fashion watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

Should I buy this Armani / Michael Kors / mall watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/Sw1FsAn

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
> Wrist size or desired watch size

旧: >>15864790

[Anonymous No.15867599]

>>15867595
>not a chinese watch

[Anonymous No.15867600]

>>15867595
>no curved endlink
ewww

[Anonymous No.15867601]

the watch that redpilled me on short l2l

[Anonymous No.15867605]

>>15867599
fine

[Anonymous No.15867606]

boctok

[Anonymous No.15867609]

>>15867595
BOOBA

[Anonymous No.15867613]

what watch is best for sticking up your ass?

[Anonymous No.15867614]

>>15867609

[Anonymous No.15867615]

>>15867613
boctok, it seals tighter under pressure assuring that it maintains seal in your hyperbaric bowel

[Anonymous No.15867623]

[Anonymous No.15867624]

Is this the best entry-level luxury watch?
>completely 100% in-house
>movement better than COSC and with a borderline ridiculous power reserve
>A grand or two cheaper than the Rolex Boring Perpetual or the Omega (‘member James Bond?? ‘member the moon???) Aqua Terra
>WAY better finishing and QC than either of those brands by a huge margin
>only downside is you can’t flex to superficial thots and normies who could give a spicy fuck about horology
Yeah, I’m thinking based.

[Anonymous No.15867625]

>>15867613
U boat

[Anonymous No.15867632]

>>15867624
Yes, it also says you fuck expensive Japanese prostitutes. Which puts you above normal Seiko wearers who settle for Thai street whores.

[Anonymous No.15867635]

>>15867621
The japanese should try something else than dolphin hands in their high-end models, indeed.

[Anonymous No.15867636]

>>15867613
A Lancet trench watch

[Anonymous No.15867637]

>>15867613
Rolex Deepsea, it has an original gas escape valve and a ring lock system

[Anonymous No.15867638]

>>15867635
>dolphin hands

[Anonymous No.15867639]

[Anonymous No.15867641]

>>15867624
Yes it is objectively the best watch in the sub 10k class. But people dont buy luxury watches for objective reasons. Seiko will never have even 1% of the prestige Rolex has.

[Anonymous No.15867648]

>>15867624
>Worse bracelet than an affordable Citizen
>Design is a yawn fest

>only downside is you can’t flex to superficial thots and normies who could give a spicy fuck about horology
But damn, are the GS owners overcompensating online. I wish that they could fex IRL, so that we could talk about something more interesting.

[Anonymous No.15867652]

>>15867638
Dauphine hands. Sorry, I'm tired.

[Anonymous No.15867654]

>>15867641
>Yes it is objectively the best watch in the sub 10k class
Kek, hold your horses there sport. It’s one thing to say it’s a better watch than the entry level dogs from Omega and Rolex. It’s quite another to say that it is objectively better than a Jaeger-LeCoultre.

[Anonymous No.15867658]

>>15867648
>flex irl
Chances are you'll never meet a GS wearer except online.

[Anonymous No.15867661]

>>15867654
I actually didnt think about JLC, you're right
Lets just say Grand Seiko makes a lot better watches than Rolex and Omega from a subjective standpoint. But nobody buys luxury watches for their build quality.

[Anonymous No.15867662]

Hurry tell me the time

[Anonymous No.15867664]

>>15867639

I stand my case
>>15867591

Why would you wear this thick piece over an OP, an Aquaterra or even a Grand Seiko?
What am I missing?

[Anonymous No.15867667]

>>15867639
It’s nice, but it’s too thick and for me there’s just something je ne sais quoi off about it.

[Anonymous No.15867672]

>>15867662
Can't tell, image size too small.

[Anonymous No.15867673]

>>15867664
Wussy wimp manlet

[Anonymous No.15867674]

So what are your options if you want a real tool watch like Omega and Rolex used to make back in the 50s and 60s? Homages?

[Anonymous No.15867675]

>>15867639
This is just a depressing Datejust coping watch.

[Anonymous No.15867677]

>>15867674
san martin

[Anonymous No.15867678]

>>15867674
Yes.
Rolex and Omemegas were something like $1000 adjusted for inflation and modern watches are typically much better engineered than in the past so you get more for less

[Anonymous No.15867679]

>>15867674
Sinn or some choice pieces from Tudor.

[Anonymous No.15867680]

>>15867662
6:56:37

[Anonymous No.15867681]

>>15867664
I mean rest my case. Gonna go to sleep now, please enlighten me for when I get up.

>>15867658
Eh... probably for a little while, The sellers actually look surprised that someone is paying attention to the GS models when I'm shopping around.

[Anonymous No.15867682]

>>15867648
what brand even has a dial that can win what GS offers?

like seriously

>inb4 some $300,000 meme HH watch

[Anonymous No.15867686]

>>15867672
you can change 4chan settings to make all images fit on your screen
its actually really useful, it doesnt matter how big the photo is, it displays properly and not blown up.

[Anonymous No.15867687]

>>15867674
If you want the logical continuation of what a tool watch should be, G-Shocks.

Otherwise, any shitter with a decent water resistance will perform as well as the classic 50s and 60s watches.

[Anonymous No.15867689]

>>15867686
>>15867672
There's people that don't use 4chanx?
Yikes

[Anonymous No.15867693]

>>15867682
I'l concede that the dials are striking, but it seems pointless to me when everything else is conventional.

[Anonymous No.15867698]

>>15867693
Don't forget the finishing on the indices and hands mogs rolex shitters.

[Anonymous No.15867700]

[Anonymous No.15867702]

>>15867686
>>15867689
I was joking.
In no way did that shitter merit a 3,430x2,644, 2.13MB image.

>>15867700
BASED BOOBA

[Anonymous No.15867703]

RECOMMEND ME A QUARTZ GMT UNDER $300 FUCK I CANT FIND A SINGLE ONE

[Anonymous No.15867705]

>>15867674
Invictas are future classics. First they'll go entirely out of fashion and many mechanical ones will get discarded as getting them repaired won't be economical but a few decades later they will be regarded as the most iconic watches of the first quarter of the 21st century. They'll be highly collectable, especially amongst a new generation of SEA watch collectors, with the most obscene and morbidly oversized limited edition models fetching exorbitant prices. Unironically the best long term investment pieces in the market.

[Anonymous No.15867719]

>>15867682
GS has superior dials, finishing, tech, etc. but the simple reality is that no one will ever view "Japan Made" as holding anywhere near as much cache as "Swiss Made". We can discuss whether or not that's justified but it's just a fact.

[Anonymous No.15867727]

>>15867595
Recommend me a watch that is basically "Moonwatch, but less basic."

[Anonymous No.15867729]

>>15867703
Citizen Promaster Nighthawk

[Anonymous No.15867731]

>>15867639
Looks like a fucking microbrand

[Anonymous No.15867732]

>>15867677
Based San Martin making fake Ploprofs.

[Anonymous No.15867735]

>>15867613
reverso for tickling prostata

[Anonymous No.15867736]

>>15867705
What are you on? Because I want some.

>>15867698
At some point these are diminishing returns to me. I want my watch to look good on my wrist, and Rolex/Omega tier finishing is more than good enough for me.

[Anonymous No.15867737]

>>15867703
you are welcum

https://www.jomashop.com/victorinox-fieldforce-gmt-watch-241896.html

[Anonymous No.15867740]

>>15867727
bulova lunar pilot

[Anonymous No.15867743]

>>15867729
dinnerplate
>>15867737
l2l is over 50mm no thanks

[Anonymous No.15867745]

>>15867736
>At some point these are diminishing returns to me.
But Grand Seikos can be had for less money than both of those

[Anonymous No.15867747]

>>15867675
Objectively, it’s not really a Datejust copy because everything about the design can be traced back to the Constellations/Globemasters of the 1950s.

The problem is that everyone perceives it to be a Datejust copy which is effectively just as bad

[Anonymous No.15867752]

Casio watches are so sexy
Fuck all this metal junk rolex patteck junk shit

[Anonymous No.15867758]

>>15867752
Wow, you convinced me. Time to melt down my Swiss shitters and invest in Casio.

[Anonymous No.15867759]

>>15867703
Citizen BJ7100-82E
Wow, that was easy.

[Anonymous No.15867761]

>>15867743
Bitch if you want help then be specific or otherwise just fuck off

[Anonymous No.15867764]

>>15867759
almost perfect other than the bezel
FUCK
>>15867761
l2l under 50, under 48 would be ideal

[Anonymous No.15867766]

>>15867745
Diminishing returns aesthetics-wise.

[Anonymous No.15867774]

>>15867613

[Anonymous No.15867778]

a CLEAR casioak is coming, either feb or march.

[Anonymous No.15867779]

>>15867764
Seiko Coutura SSG010, 44.5mm
$317 on Amazon

[Anonymous No.15867785]

>>15867599

[Anonymous No.15867797]

>>15867764
nighthawk is a GMT and its 46.5 l2l

[Anonymous No.15867800]

>>15867764
Zeppelin dual time gmt 7642-2, 42mm
$215

[Anonymous No.15867801]

>>15867778
Meh. They could have made an effort to inegrate the dial withe the case.
There it just looks like one of those modded casioaks.

[Anonymous No.15867803]

>>15867727
Less basic as in more features / tech
or
Less basic as in less reddit tier meme

space watches:
Sinn 140 St
Fortis B-42

Cooler Chrono:
SINN 356
el primero a384

in b4 thicc sinn meme

[Anonymous No.15867812]

>>15867674
If you want a modern equivalent of a tool watch, a real tool, probably g shock. Those old sport watches were the toughest watches that you could buy. Now the toughest watch that you can get is a g shocks or something similar.
Now if you're into cosplaying, probably a sinn u1 or a tudor pelagos or reissues companies like doxa remaking the sub line.

[Anonymous No.15867815]

>Rolex's target markets

[Anonymous No.15867819]

>>15867815
Wealth is a sin

[Anonymous No.15867825]

>>15867812

>expensive things can't be a tool

[Anonymous No.15867826]

>>15867815
>muslims
>chinks
>niggers
I forget anyone?

[Anonymous No.15867830]

>>15867825
Modern rolex and omega are just riding on past glories. It's like playing army men while wearing your dads uniform. They make them for the look these days.

[Anonymous No.15867831]

>>15867779
>Seiko Coutura SSG010
abomination

[Anonymous No.15867832]

>>15867705
>Invictas are future classics
lol

[Anonymous No.15867833]

reminder >>15867481 you son of a bitch

i expect a 100% return on my eth in 6 months

[Anonymous No.15867835]

>>15867826
boomers

[Anonymous No.15867836]

>>15867778
Looks bad desu

[Anonymous No.15867838]

>>15867830
I wasn't implying anything about Rolex or Omega. Sinn / doxa etc are perfectly legitimate tool watches. just because they are expensive doesn't change that. It would be like telling /ck/ that the only real kitchen tool is some $20 Victorinox and anything else is a larp.

[Anonymous No.15867842]

>>15867815
that genuinely haram
You can't wear gold and you can't wear anything but ihram clothes around the holy mecca
fucking oil monkeys and pajeets ruining this religion I swear

[Anonymous No.15867844]

>>15867727

the breitling navitimer; the watch that timed the astronauts (tm)

[Anonymous No.15867847]

>>15867674
The idea of a mechanical tool watch is dead. It's why the quartz revolution happened. So any quartz watch you pick will be more of a tool watch than those of yore.

[Anonymous No.15867852]

>>15867833
I feel like /biz/ comes here plenty asking how to spend their new found wealth. Maybe I need to go to /smg/ and make them tell me how to afford my lange

[Anonymous No.15867855]

>>15867803
Less basic as in cooler and not a meme

I really like the recent reissues of the el primero but it honestly bugs the hell out of me that the movement doesn't hack. Like jesus Zenith you have had 50 fucking years to add hacking seconds

[Anonymous No.15867857]

invicta "US ARMY"
this is the field watch of the today

[Anonymous No.15867867]

>>15867732
Thank god. Omega had a monopoly on the fake ploprof market

[Anonymous No.15867869]

>>15867605
why is that guy wearing full makeup

[Anonymous No.15867874]

>>15867857
thank you for your service

[Anonymous No.15867880]

>>15867857
No tritium no deal

[Anonymous No.15867881]

>>15867855
>Like jesus Zenith you have had 50 fucking years to add hacking seconds
What's the problem with non hacking seconds?

[Anonymous No.15867891]

>>15867881
Can't set watch autism perfect. Or synchronize watches when going into battle.

[Anonymous No.15867892]

>>15867881
I'm an autist who likes to set my watches to a reference time

[Anonymous No.15867893]

>>15867857
Lol. The bullbars probably are a bad idea really.

[Anonymous No.15867896]

>>15867880
but the invicta ones have this, the eagle of freedom

[Anonymous No.15867898]

>>15867891
>>15867892
Then why not going quartz?, you can't get more precission than that.

[Anonymous No.15867899]

>>15867857

Doesn’t regulation call for watches to not be reflective and have straps that can be snapped/cut, i.e. no steel bracelets?

I feel like I heard that somewhere

[Anonymous No.15867904]

The unironic modern military field watch is the G-Shock DW5600
If you're actually on the ground in the military everybody has either that, some other G-Shock, or some non-G-Shock plastic Casio

[Anonymous No.15867908]

>>15867898
Come on, anon. I'm not an ANIMAL.

[Anonymous No.15867912]

>>15867852

>implying anyone in the history of trading success has ever even come remotely close to posting anywhere on /biz/

might as well ask /wsb how to invest your money

[Anonymous No.15867965]

>>15867825
Keep coping, he asked for the modern equivalent of those vintage sport watches.Back in the day, those were the toughest and most reliable watches that you could get, that's why they were used in the military, diving etc.
What are the most reliable and accurate watches that you can get right now?
I love mechanical watches, but objectively speaking as a tool, using mechanical watches as tools is the equivalent of refusing to use electricity...

[Anonymous No.15867970]

>>15867965
Electricity is the devil

[Anonymous No.15867986]

>>15866829
Microbrands suffer the same market factors depending on their price intent; what you have to remember is that the assumption since the 90s was that the market was expanding and that people who had around 2-3 nice watches wanted to spend money on something more unique, less attainable, and less well known (i.e. more niche). Design could be outrageous, complications could be useless, etc. The growth of the industry allowed for many brands to be built from the mid-90s to the first financial crisis of 2008. The mindset hasn't changed (i.e. there is always room for something special), but the market has definitely changed for the same reasons I outlined earlier: fewer people are buying, more people are selling their own collection, and brick-and-mortars are stuck with inventory they can't move. Add in Covid and people losing jobs, and you get a perfect storm.

1) The microbrands trying to compete in haute horology can churn out watches for the next 2 years but people will be afraid to buy them because there isn't confidence that these can be 'investment' pieces or hold their value.

2) Upper and mid-level that compete with Rolex suffer the same problem, but their survival might be more in question. Maybe they get bought out by a 'group'.

3) Under mid-level is a real question mark; I don't know how these companies will survive, especially given how many are competing with each other. Perhaps they'll be bought by one of the 'groups' too.

For instance: affordable Seikos will always be there because the company is huge top-down, so it can weather a storm like this. I can't for the life of me figure out how companies like Oris or Longines can do what they do. With microbrands, it'll be harder, not easier, because the interest in these brands is with fewer people, the outreach is to fewer people, etc. You need lots of people buying watches and/or/ extreme desirability (like Rolex) to deal with this scenario.

>that's my 2c.

[Anonymous No.15867988]

it's that retard who thinks he's the king of watch knowledge and is constantly avatarposting with some shit he doesn't own again

[Anonymous No.15867992]

>>15867831
Fuck off then

[Anonymous No.15867993]

>>15867988
refute his point if you are able, otherwise you lost

[Anonymous No.15867994]

>>15867993
I don't read your posts because they are longwinded masturbatory exercises

[Anonymous No.15867999]

>>15867674
the based Marathon, a $35 actual US military issue watch with extreme shock resistance and 200m wr that's entirely unknown to r*dditors and youtube shills

[Anonymous No.15868006]

>>15867994
im not him
his points arent even wrong
you have no answer except seething

[Anonymous No.15868009]

>>15867898
Find me a quartz chrono as cool as an el Primero, Anon.

[Anonymous No.15868016]

>>15867999
the price to stats is really nice but it looks kinda ugly
its really a ultitarian watch

[Anonymous No.15868037]

Real men don't wear quartz.

[Anonymous No.15868046]

>>15867988
I wish I did know more. Back in the good old days, watch people would post about tonnes of things that were entirely out of my wheelhouse, which allowed discussion here to be serious and wide ranging. There was the guy who had all the slow movement webms of escapements, the very kind Anon who had the watch that you watered, the Speedy 4.5 with the flannel sleeves, the Seiko Anon who had enough knowledge to be an historian for that company, the Anon who collected only Observatory Chronometers, etc. Maybe some are the same, maybe not, but the point was that they were contributing too and I could learn with everyone else. There are specific watches I know a lot about but there are many 'dead' zones in my knowledge base which I don't comment on.

For instance, no one here is asking if a Grand Seiko Spring Drive has problems servicing, or if a Ceramic case is really worth all the hassle. If they did, I wouldn't be able to comment in depth (the Tuttonero is too new, and I've never owned a Grand Seiko nor do I like their aesthetic direction). Hell, for a while there was tonnes of talk about Damasko, but I think only one Anon here bought one (I could be wrong on this...I can't remember). When it comes to digitals or quartz watches, I'm entirely out of my depth, so I don't comment.

The point is, the old regulars might have moved on. If they were here, things would be far more balanced out. I'm happy for disagreement; that's the way I learn. I just assume everyone else is going to be doing the same; contributing their knowledge.

>>15867993
>>15868006
You Anons are kind, and I appreciate it, but do call me out when I'm wrong and show me why. Maybe I'm just getting old now....and obsolete. Anyway, it doesn't stop me from enjoying talking about watches.

[Anonymous No.15868050]

>>15868037
Imagine being this obtuse.

[Anonymous No.15868058]

>>15867639
I really like this one in rose gold.

[Anonymous No.15868062]

>>15867815
Nice bait with the replica, great watch though

[Anonymous No.15868065]

>>15867898
i finally did buy a quartz watch (gshock)
because i wanted a watch to time my laps in the pool and also for army reservist
theres likely no mechanical chronograph able to be pressed underwater and also be robust with jolts(gunfire), plus cheap enough so that i dont care what happens to it

but other than that i will probably never get another quartz

[Anonymous No.15868076]

>>15868037
FRAG OUT

[Anonymous No.15868081]

>>15868058
>>15867639
Have you Anons tried it on yet? I have on several occasions at ADs, and to be honest I had issues with them:

1) The case is huge, but and while under normal circumstances that isn't an issue to me, it throws off the proportions of the dial if you're used to pie-pan constellations from the 60s.

2) The bezel surprisingly makes the watch look worse in person. The purpose of a bezel like this is to direct or attract the eye to the dial, but what you find when you get there is a lot of empty space (the Annual Calendar fixes this though). The beveling on the dial doesn't fix it though; it's subtle.

I was disappointed to be honest. The movement is not the problem, the proportions are (in my eyes). I would expect them to be reasonably affordable on the secondary market in a few years from now, because no matter how much my AD tries to push it on customers, he's not moving them. Maybe other ADs don't have this problem...but for this pricepoint there are lots of other great watches that look better (but might not have the mechanical engineering inside).

What do you think?

[Anonymous No.15868082]

Shippin' it Lovin' it

[Anonymous No.15868085]

>>15868081
I haven’t tried one on, but seen it.
I love pie pans, I like Omega, and I’d really like to love it, but it’s a no for me.
I agree with your criticism.
In the same way as the DJ41, there’s just something off about the proportions.

[Anonymous No.15868092]

Should I get a 42mm El Primero? Would get smaller but the date position is garbage

[Anonymous No.15868105]

>>15868085
I'd say try it on if you get a chance after all the Covid shit finishes. I find that no matter how much I look at something in a picture, it never truly matches the 'on-the-wrist' experience. The Globemaster was one of several watches I had on my 'list' and eventually struck it off because no matter how much I thought the idea was great, every time I tried it on (including different colours and precious metals) it just was sucky. ALSO!! I forgot to mention. The bracelet it comes on is simple but not elegant...to the point where all I can think of is the word 'cheap'. I was very sad about that. It's not fair that I'm comparing it to the old Seamaster bracelet, but I don't care. The Globemaster 'should' be Omega's premier line, right? And their bracelet is....sucky.

Anyway, I was going to say that another one which surprised me in a bad way was the JLC Reverso, manual wind. They're classic watches, everyone has to have one in their collection, etc....but when I tried it on it was disturbingly light (as in, no weight to the point where the leather strap and clasp felt almost heavier than the watch itself). I realize this is a 'good thing' in terms of horology, but it was seriously unnerving. So, that one went off the list too. You never know until you try these things on.

>>15868092
I've never been a fan of Zenith's aesthetic direction, but the movements are tried and tested. A colleague of mine bought the 100th of a second chronograph, and it was wonderful to use and wear. Do you like the way it looks, have you tried it on, etc?

For this kind of price, I'm of the opinion that if you don't literally dream about owning the watch, then you'll likely regret it and try to sell it after a year or so. Are you buying new or second hand?

Also, the date at 4.5 on the reduced is fine if you wear it on your left wrist, but I get your complaints about the dial layout. What do you think?

[Anonymous No.15868106]

>>15868081
You have described my problems with it better than I would have. Maybe I'm not that crazy after all.

I think that the Globemaster doesn't know what it wants to be, and would be mediocrely appriopriated in most circumstances. Shills promoting it as as Datejust killer do it more harm than good, because it doesn't have DJ's thinness or versatility.

[Anonymous No.15868115]

good afternoon /fa/, /biz/ here

what (rolex) watch says "i've made it but i don't care what you think" (even though i do care what you think, which is why i'm wearing a rolex)

[Anonymous No.15868117]

>>15868115
Probably a Sky Dweller or Day/Date

[Anonymous No.15868118]

>>15868115
Yachtmaster in Rose Gold or a bicolor sub

[Anonymous No.15868122]

>>15868081
I haven't tried it on, but have seen it in person when I was shopping with someone else some years ago. While I like the rose gold more than the steel+white dial, I wouldn't get this watch in a precious metal considering the price which would put it amongst a whole other class of watches.

I would probably go for the steel+blue dial version, which provides a bit more visual interest and goes very well with the grey colour of the tungsten bezel. I also don't particularly like the blackened logo/indices/etc. of the steel+white dial version. As regards proportions, I don't have any experience with vintage Constellations and can't make the comparison so I'll trust you. I would have preferred the following changes to the dial: smaller "pie pan" section with longer indices and a slightly longer/thicker set of hands. Date at 3 o'clock. If the numbers are to be trusted, this watch at 39mm diameter, 46mm lug to lug, 13mm thick would probably wear similarly to although a bit smaller than my 41mm Seamaster Diver 300M (previous reference), which sounds large but is something I would be able to handle.

Mechanically, the only real competition to this watch, at this price, is the Aqua Terra, but I think most Aqua Terras are lame (sorry) and that this watch is a more interesting piece.

[Anonymous No.15868126]

>>15868118
I don't understand. Why not lume the bezel triangle?

[Anonymous No.15868128]

>>15868106
Interesting...I would never have put the DJ and the Globemaster in the same boat, but now that you mention it, I can understand why; the same basic pricepoint (though you can get DJs cheaper than Globemasters right now on the secondary market, probably due to the immense numbers of them available for sale).

Still, one listing from Japan for a basic stainless steel Globemaster is approx. 3900 USD....that's not bad for the technology inside. But if people aren't buying, then the price will go down further.

I don't think anything can 'kill' the datejust because its purpose for Rolex is as a lady's watch and as an entry-level men's watch for people who are going to go through the AD system in order to eventually get the chance to buy a stainless steel sports model that they really want. So in a sense, the Datejust is already dead...and Rolex killed it...lol

>>15868115
Good afternoon /biz/ How's /pmg/ this morning? A Rolex with diamonds. Doesn't matter what model, as long as it has diamonds.

[Anonymous No.15868129]

>>15868037

>a fighter pilot spent almost their yearly salary on a watch

Doubt

[Anonymous No.15868130]

>>15868115
My vote goes for a platinum Daytona.

[Anonymous No.15868133]

>>15868092
Try it at the 38mm on. Try one of the vintage reissues if you can. You may be surprised at how you warm to the position of the date window. I have a non-el primero vintage zenith watch with the date at that position and love it. In fact I have actually grown to dislike having the date at 6:00

[Anonymous No.15868134]

>>15868115
>rolex
>i don't care what you think
lol

[Anonymous No.15868135]

>>15868122
>so I'll trust you
Don't trust me! That's the point I was trying to make up top; take my opinions for what they are: opinions. Here's a pic of the pie-pan in a classic format. You can see what I mean about the proportions, but keep in mind that the classic pie-pan is much smaller.

I understand your thoughts about the Aqua Terra; I agree with you in terms of the design not being interesting to me, but that being said they're finely engineered watches that can handle water, so really it lodges itself into the 'I can do anything' watch category that every watchmaker has somewhere.

[Anonymous No.15868136]

>>15868092
The crowding of the subdials doesn't suit the 42mm version. They get away with it at 38 but not at 42.

[Anonymous No.15868139]

>>15868082
>cant buy rolex and AP because of ghetto nibbas
>cant buy omega because of reddit söyboys
>cant buy GS because of autists like this
god I hate watches...

[Anonymous No.15868143]

>>15868115
The only expensive watch that truly gives off IDGAF vibes is that quartz FP Journe that's like $20,000.

[Anonymous No.15868147]

>>15868143
FP Journe watches are fugly though
They're the horological equivalent of women with 10/10 body 2/10 face

[Anonymous No.15868153]

>>15868147
That's why it gives off IDGAF vibes anon

[Anonymous No.15868154]

>>15867639
I wish it had a better bracelet

[Anonymous No.15868161]

>>15868135
If they gave the new Globemaster Aqua Terra hands the proportions of the vintage and modern watches would be nearly identical (albeit at two different sizes)

[Anonymous No.15868162]

>>15868134
how about you try reading the rest of the post you absolute ape

[Anonymous No.15868165]

>>15868162
No

[Anonymous No.15868166]

>>15867703
Linjer GMT
Citizen BJ7100

[Anonymous No.15868168]

>>15868115
the King Midas

[Anonymous No.15868181]

>>15868135
The Aqua Terra GMT Chronograph is really good. It's a big boy (43 mm, 51 mm lug to lug, 17 mm thick) but it is a chronometer-certified column wheel/vertical clutch chronograph with a 24-hour hand, 150m water resistance, and a very logical and attractive dial layout. It's the best Aqua Terra and one of Omega's best watches.

[Anonymous No.15868188]

>>15868139
Shipp is based faggot.

[Anonymous No.15868199]

>>15868139
Even the most flamboyant crossdressing dicksucking homosexual on this planet wouldn't reach your level of faggotry. Just get your favourite watch and be happy.

[Anonymous No.15868214]

>>15867727
Is there a cheap version (even a replica) of this watch? May you please put a source?

[Anonymous No.15868235]

>>15867624
I agree with you, except:
>lack of lume
>no micro adjust clasp

[Anonymous No.15868236]

ID?

[Anonymous No.15868239]

it's very thicc and I'd get raped on shipping and customs so here's a swiss mechanical COOMER for $600 on ebay if someone wants it:
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IGJ-Watch-Erotic-Montre-Erotique-Limited-Edition-Automatic-Super-Rare-Swiss-Made/265013255166

[Anonymous No.15868281]

>>15868139
Good thing that you don't _need_ any of these.
Just ignore the watch "scene" and get a watch you like. Simple.

[Anonymous No.15868298]

>>15868239
>coomer watch
>ending soon

Kek

[Anonymous No.15868303]

>>15868239
I really want a coomer watch even though I know it’s completely retarded.

[Anonymous No.15868310]

>>15868214
Someone referred to a bulova lunar pilot above
https://www.bulova.com/us/en/product/96B251.html

[Anonymous No.15868324]

>>15868214

If you are happy with quartz dan henry 1972 will get to pretty close

[Anonymous No.15868341]

>>15868310
The problem is that thing is absolutely fuck massive

[Anonymous No.15868378]

>>15868324
Why not just get the real Sinn?

[Anonymous No.15868383]

>>15868324
Damn it's cool. Not the guy you are replying to, but thanks Anon.

[Anonymous No.15868399]

This with micro adjust and 12mm max thickness would make my dick hard

[Anonymous No.15868403]

>>15868303
It's probably the least retarded high complication around, there's something fun about wearing a conservative, even dated looking dress watch to a soiree with only you and your initiated circle of friends knowing about what's going on behind its facade. Coomer watches entertain, fascinate and bring people together, something that no other class of watches can achieve.

[Anonymous No.15868405]

>>15868399
The hands need more looooom and the hour hand should be redesigned

[Anonymous No.15868410]

>>15868405
You know what, I actually agree. I'm just to lazy to shop that too.

[Anonymous No.15868423]

that'll be 48,000$

[Anonymous No.15868431]

>>15868423
>watch for ants.jpg

[Anonymous No.15868434]

>>15868139
Seethe more jamoke

[Anonymous No.15868481]

>>15868129
That Aquanaut at list price is Patek's cheapest watch. Save for several years and it's totally achievable for most people.

[Anonymous No.15868488]

>>15868037
That looks fucking horrendous.

Literally this looks better.

https://www.amazon.ca/EPOCH-Waterproof-Luminous-Automatic-Mechanical/dp/B01KCPLSG2/

[Anonymous No.15868497]

What is he wearing? Is that one of those thick submariners?

[Anonymous No.15868511]

>>15868497
Yes. He has said on stream he bought himself a Rolex Sub several years ago.

[Anonymous No.15868513]

>>15867986
>>15868046
If all you want is criticism remember that a microbrand is by definition smaller, has less mouths to feed, and can thus hold their breath longer than others. It also means they can pivot faster, but for some reason almost no one in the watch industry does at all.

[Anonymous No.15868527]

>>15867624
I have the SBGR071 and I'd say this:
>movement better than COSC and with a borderline ridiculous power reserve
yeah it's pretty nice but imo the 80hr power can be had in a shitty swatch group eta-powercucked movement.
>A grand or two cheaper than the Rolex Boring Perpetual or the Omega (‘member James Bond?? ‘member the moon???) Aqua Terra
if you go second-hand it can sometimes be had for a third of the price of the OP/
>WAY better finishing and QC than either of those brands by a huge margin
Correct.
>only downside is you can’t flex to superficial thots and normies who could give a spicy fuck about horology
I mean sure it's not a RAWLEXXX but I've gotten more compliments on my GS than my Seamaster. That said, my Alpinist gets more compliments on both so fucked if you do fucked if you don't lol.
>>15867641
I'd say GS has 1% of the prestige that Rolex has. And among watch nerds probably about 10-15 percent of the 'prestige'. That said no boomer watch collector gives a shit about GS, all the better for me.
>>15867648
>Worse bracelet than an affordable Citizen
Never owned one, can't comment. But the bracelet is decent, it's the lack of a signifcant taper and very basic (though nicely milled and thin) clasp with 0 micro-adjustments that really lets it down.
>Design is a yawn fest
They can be pretty boring. Same with most of the big 3 swiss offerings; when you take autistic Confucian exceptionalism to 11 or Protestant-work-ethic-with-calvinistic-aesthetics you can end up with watches that imo, can leave you pretty cold.
The main reason I picked the SBGR071 was because it had red accents on the dial and feels like it has something that the rest of the non-snowflake range is kinda miissing. Funnily enough, it's the thing that annoys most GS owners about my model. Go figure.

>TL;DR Grand Seiko is fantastic but the criticisms are well grounded as well. GS make a fucking decent micro-adjust clasp already

[Anonymous No.15868544]

>>15868168
the only rolex we should all strive for

[Anonymous No.15868546]

>>15867869
Cause he's not a fag

[Anonymous No.15868564]

It's up!

https://youtu.be/8geapT1a3iE

[Anonymous No.15868575]

>>15868527
Your model is good in my book indeed.
The grandiose dials from some GS look off with the conventional design of everything else, IMO, whereas this one has just the right amount of quirk. And it is nicely integrated with the seconds hand.
To be honest the Citizen Chronomaster's clasp doesn't have any micro-adjust either. I just don't get it, if I'm already willing to pay thousands for a quartz watch, just make me pay $100 more for a good clasp.

[Anonymous No.15868578]

>>15868564
tl;dr buy the Rolex goy

[Anonymous No.15868590]

what's a good ~4k$ watch for a 6.5 inch wristlet.

I always wanted an ikepod but just too big for my size wrist I believe

[Anonymous No.15868597]

[Anonymous No.15868630]

>>15868597
>microSHITTER

[Anonymous No.15868632]

>>15868597
Could you take an even shittier picture, please?
Nice watch otherwise. I'm not into divers, but I dig those 50s era-inspired designs.

[Anonymous No.15868634]

>>15868632
I love doggy

[Anonymous No.15868647]

>>15868590
Get one of the new damasko dk30 watches with their new in-house movement, available in black and blue dial variants both with and without a date complication. Grab one of their luxury in-house bracelets to go along with it.
I recommend the no-date black personally
https://www.damasko-watches.com/de/modelle/modelle-mit-manufakturkaliber/
Or get a citizen chronomaster, whichever one you like.
https://citizen.jp/s/the-citizen/index.html#tab_lineup_01

[Anonymous No.15868651]

>>15868037

is this picture real?

also that looks like some shitty trainer, which raises even more questions.

[Anonymous No.15868660]

>>15868324
Thank you it looks good will check it out
>>15868310
Idk about bulova, i have a couplr and they just don't feel right on my wrist

[Anonymous No.15868661]

>>15867595
OH GOD ITS SO PERKY IM COOOOOOOOOOOMINGGGGGG

[Anonymous No.15868663]

>>15868661
Fuck off

Is the Casio EFR-S108-Fag still around? I need pictures of the watch‘s backside

[Anonymous No.15868673]

Hey there are some citizen chronomasters that actually have lume!
AQ4030-51L
Also available in black and white dial versions

[Anonymous No.15868681]

>>15868590
Do some research before asking, you have too much choice at $4k.

Anyway, I have your wrist size and my sweet spot is 36-39mm with a <=48mm lug-to-lug.
I like my Monta Noble but it's half your budget and it doesn't seem to be the style you're looking for.

[Anonymous No.15868687]

>>15868673
Yup, I've seen it IRL and the C3 lume is freaking nice on it.

[Anonymous No.15868688]

>>15868383

Not that guy, but be aware that some Dan Henry watches have crystals that explode, literally. Some QC issue that was addressed around the time that model was coming out.

I hear that Dan Henry has great customer service though.

[Anonymous No.15868689]

>>15868082
>>15868188
>>15868434
ABSOLUTELY B A S E D

[Anonymous No.15868696]

>>15868689
Shippposting is back on the menu boys
craigshipp.com/grandseiko

[Anonymous No.15868698]

>>15868681
>Monta Noble
What's the deal with Monta, why is it so cheap in relation to how it looks? I tried to find actual info about who's behind the company, who designs the stuff, etc. but it's very obscure. This looks on par with Rolex or better, so what's the catch?

[Anonymous No.15868707]

>>15868698
>Rolex or better
Nah. It just looks like a well put-together microbrand. Remember that the markup on all this shit is astronomical. I wouldn't say Monta is any higher quality than something like Christopher Ward.

[Anonymous No.15868712]

>>15868698
I mean, Rolex could sell the exact same thing at 10x the price and people would gobble it up, it really isn't by the merit of the watch itself.

[Anonymous No.15868715]

>>15868403
wtf I love Blancpain now!

[Anonymous No.15868718]

>>15868698
jewlex rips you off because they can
smaller brands actually have something to prove so they have to offer you value

[Anonymous No.15868721]

>>15868324
Can someone explain the quartz vs non quartz thing? Is it an internal watch thing or does it affect performance?

[Anonymous No.15868724]

>>15868696
>>15868689
BASED

[Anonymous No.15868727]

>>15868698
Why yes let me recall all the famous instances of the monta noble in media. It’s a shitter that belongs in the fucking toilet.

[Anonymous No.15868733]

>>15868681
yes, it seems 38 mm is a good size.

I'm looking for something modern but not geeky, which is why I like the ikepods

[Anonymous No.15868736]

>>15868727
>his taste is based on inane marketing and fictional characters in shows on television
Ahahhahahahaha

[Anonymous No.15868738]

>>15868707
>>>Rolex or better
>Nah. It just looks like a well put-together microbrand.
Finishing and design look amazing, what am I missing?

[Anonymous No.15868741]

Reminder that when James Bond wore a Rolex it was basically just a tough shitter worn by athletes

[Anonymous No.15868750]

>>15868698
I don't really know how they pull it off. I guess that their models have the same dimensions, the bracelet is the same... That must save some R&D costs.
The movement is obviously off-th-shelf, but Oris&co typically charge the same price for an inferior movement and no one cares. (SW200 vs SW300)
Mine is running at +1spd so I won't complain about it. Just wish that it was antimagnetic.

I guess that the catch is the same as any new brand : in case of trouble with your watch, we're not sure that the company will survive long enough to provide you parts or whatever. I certainly hope so.
It's also sold online only at the moment, so that's a gamble if you haven't seen it in person. And that's even worse if you are outside of the US.

But if you like the design and can take the gamble (10% return fee IIRC), then I have nothing bad to say to convince you not to.

[Anonymous No.15868804]

Serious question, do you guys take your watch off during sex?
I feel like it looks weird being naked with a watch on, like leaving your socks on or something. But at the same time, taking a second to unstrap your watch and carefully put it on the side table while stripping seems cringe and awkward. Not to mention I wouldn't really wanna leave my rolex lying around in some random bitch from tinder's apartment

[Anonymous No.15868818]

>>15868804

i decided to start taking it off after a korean milf nearly ripped off my hand while holding onto my explorers bracelet. that hurt enough that i simply take it off ahead of time. had it been a leather strap she would have 100% damaged it.

[Anonymous No.15868819]

>>15868168
I love the king midas. I don't get why isn't a meme hyped watch, because checks all the criteria: vintage, rolex, integrated bracelet, Genta design, not only Genta design but follows the same idea behind the royal oak, borrowing a real life design and adapting it to a watch, worn by celebrities etc.
I would love to own one in the future, I actually prefer the cellini version, that leather strap is just insane.

[Anonymous No.15868821]

>>15868804
I'm gonna be 29 next month and still a virgin.


Please let my life end soon.

[Anonymous No.15868828]

>>15868821
Do you have money? If so just larp as a rich older dude and find girls who are after sugar daddies.
A decent haircut, nice clothes and recognisable watch go a pretty long way with the shallow, vapid types

[Anonymous No.15868830]

>>15868828
>LE EVERYTHING CAN BE SOLVED WITH MONEY
Oh right it can, got some for me?

[Anonymous No.15868848]

>>15868721
It is a matter of taste, like bike vs E-bike

[Anonymous No.15868901]

*ruins your watch*

[Anonymous No.15868950]

>>15868804
No. At least for me the most important function of a watch other than telling the time is to remind me of the experiences I had and I think back of fondly, and that includes sexual conquests. I thought of compiling a list of the highlights associated with each of my watches that will go to the son, grandson, in-law or nephew I leave them to when I pass away.

[Anonymous No.15868963]

>>15867601
fucking eyesore

[Anonymous No.15868971]

>>15868597
Balticanon?

[Anonymous No.15868999]

>>15868950
Gay

[Anonymous No.15869006]

>>15868950
>AP Royal Oak 15202st
This is the watch I wore when I banged a 14 year old ladyboy in Bangkok. I came on it and made him (her) lick it off, then shat on his (her) chest for $5. Wear it in good health my son.

[Anonymous No.15869008]

The Jacob & Co. Rasputin Diamond Erotic Repeater.
1.5 million euros. 47mm, 18mm thick.

[Anonymous No.15869059]

>>15869008
Explain the appeal
What would motivate anyone to buy this?
Is it made to be worn or displayed like a wierd painting?

[Anonymous No.15869061]

>>15869059
Connor MacGregor bought one. I think it's an investment like buttcoin, you just have it because it's worth money. But you can also wear it.

[Anonymous No.15869066]

>>15869059
It’s for money laundering, like any piece of art that costs more than a couple thousand dollars.

[Anonymous No.15869071]

>>15869008
This might legitimately be the most tasteless watch I’ve ever seen.

[Anonymous No.15869072]

>>15869059
rich people are bored
its a party watch where they wear it to show their other rich friends for shits and giggles

[Anonymous No.15869083]

>>15869071
How else am I going to show people I'm rich as shit?

[Anonymous No.15869084]

>>15869008
would be better if its a black guy

[Anonymous No.15869088]

Anyone have experience with dan henry watches, are they any good? Sturdy?

[Anonymous No.15869092]

>>15869088
there are some QC issues but they stand by their watches so if anything goes wrong they handle it well. the worst part about them is that they say "dan henry" on them which is kind of lame. enthusiasts have some respect for it because dan henry is a famous watch collector but some dude's name on the dial gives off that shitter vibe

[Anonymous No.15869116]

Has anyone had experience with Tisell? I like the look of the explorer homage (can't afford a real one).

[Anonymous No.15869119]

Why can't anybody do a modern PVD/lume dial watch that looks good?

[Anonymous No.15869123]

>>15869116
Depending on where you live you should buy direct from their korean website to save money.
http://tisellkr.com/
This my not apply in Europe lol ur tariffs are fucked.

[Anonymous No.15869126]

>>15869119
Too powerful for today's fags and redditors.

[Anonymous No.15869174]

>>15867595
If I go into my local Rolex authorized dealer (which is also an authorized dealer of several other brands including Patek, JLC, and Omega) will they truly only have Oyster Perpetuals and Datejusts in store or is there any chance they'll have the "professional" models?

[Anonymous No.15869177]

^They won't sell you any if you look s o i

[Anonymous No.15869182]

>>15869177
>company that is in the business of selling people luxury goods treats customers like this
lmao what the fuck

[Anonymous No.15869183]

>>15869177
What does this post even mean. Did someone actually look straight at him in his khaki shorts and say "you aren't worth enough" or did they just tell him their Explorer was reserved and he couldn't buy it?

[Anonymous No.15869185]

>>15869174
They won't have any steel sports models in the case out front, they probably have some in the safe but they aren't for plebs like you.

[Anonymous No.15869189]

>>15869183
They probably told him he wasn't a preferred customer and wasn't worth enough to the AD. They don't really care what your net worth is as long as you have cash for watches.

[Anonymous No.15869192]

>>15869185
Ok, good to know. And how much would I typically have to spend at that store to be able to access the steel sports models?

[Anonymous No.15869194]

>>15869192
five precious metal cellinis

[Anonymous No.15869198]

>>15869177
Imagine seething so hard from being denied a rolex that you go down the hall and buy a shitter. He probably paid MSRP for it too.

[Anonymous No.15869203]

>>15869189
I don't get it. Rolex makes literally almost a million watches a year. How many of them are sitting in ADs' safes?

[Anonymous No.15869206]

>>15869192
Buy at least a few two tone datejusts and or precious metal cellinis. They might offer bundling if they sell other brands where they might off you a model if you are willing to buy two or three other watches at the same time.

[Anonymous No.15869218]

>>15869203
They slow roll them like de Beers

[Anonymous No.15869221]

>>15869206
It's really funny, much like comic books the rolex AD has to buy a bunch of shit watches nobody wants to get access to the steell sports models. Thier solution to this is to make their customers buy those undesirable shitters before they can get the steel sports models.

[Anonymous No.15869224]

>>15869203
Most of them are sold privately on the grey market by AD's because they aren't allowed to charge more than MSRP in store. Also 90% of them get sent to Hong Kong by rolex.

[Anonymous No.15869228]

>>15869221
I'll trade you a box of Archies for a Cellini.

[Anonymous No.15869229]

>>15869206
Ok, so in other words you probably have to spend about $20-$30k before you get in their good books. My parents have a purchase history at the AD (not Rolex watches) and I may make a few purchases that would ultimately take me to or above that threshold. What are the chances they would accept that as a good enough purchase history to give me access to a sports model?

[Anonymous No.15869236]

the virgin rolex vs the chad vostok.

[Anonymous No.15869239]

>>15869224
I'm guessing they don't want Rolex to find out they're doing that. So I'm willing to bet that not every AD is going to the grey market.

[Anonymous No.15869241]

>>15869229
I would probably go in with your dad and have him make a big show of adding you to his account while you two are buying a watch of course. Beyond that it depends on the specific dealer and what scams he is running. Go in, ask for the manager, tell him what's up, be firm, tell him you have the cash ready to go and ask him what needs to happen to make a deal. Go from there, don't just slob his nuts and throw money at him without some kind of firm commitment on his side

[Anonymous No.15869243]

>>15869239
Well the have to sell at least some of the steel sports models in stores or they wouldn't have any way to make people buy the cellinis.

[Anonymous No.15869245]

>Christmas
>gf gets me watch
>it’s this ugly ass Invicta looking motherfucker
>it’s actually very well made and comfortable
Conflicting feels

[Anonymous No.15869254]

>>15869241
Hm ok. Would a Patek AD sell a new customer anything at all or is there a similar barrier to entry with them?

[Anonymous No.15869260]

>>15869254
Patek is even snobbier if anything. Same with AP.

[Anonymous No.15869262]

>>15869243
Man when I saw that Obama's "post-presidency" watch was a Cellini I couldn't stop laughing

[Anonymous No.15869264]

ID this watch please.

[Anonymous No.15869265]

>>15869254
I think patek will sell most things except for their minute repeaters and the nautilus / aquanot.
VC will definitely sell you an overseas if you like those bad boys.

[Anonymous No.15869266]

>>15869260
I know, but like, is there any (relatively) shitty Patek they would sell me as a "first purchase" and if so what model?

[Anonymous No.15869267]

>>15869262
I remember reading various articles in watch blogs saying how it was a brilliant choice and shows how great Obama is because the Cellini is the thinking man's Rolex. It's like when people tried to meme that being cucked is the thinking man's fetish.

[Anonymous No.15869276]

>>15869262
That dealer must laugh about selling Obama a Cellini daily. Absolute legend.

[Anonymous No.15869277]

>>15869266
Anything besides a steel Nautilus. If you can pay for it it's yours. But they are very serious about the Nautilus. If you get one, and you flip it, they blacklist you.

[Anonymous No.15869281]

>>15869266
A calatrava probably. That'll be $25k sir.

[Anonymous No.15869286]

>>15869281
Will they give me a discount if I tell them I have carpet beetles?

[Anonymous No.15869288]

>>15869286
By all means try it anon. Let us know what they say.

[Anonymous No.15869291]

>>15869265
>>15869277

Ok. So you're telling me that I /could/ spend $30k on Datejusts and Cellinis just to be offered the chance at maybe spending another $15k+ on a Rolex sports model, or I could buy basically any Patek or VC (including the Overseas), get something that is objectively better than any of those Rolexes, and still be ahead by many thousands of dollars?

Really makes you wonder why anyone would fall for the Rolex meme at this point

[Anonymous No.15869292]

>>15869291
Yes, this is why Rolex buyers are stupid.

[Anonymous No.15869294]

>>15869291
Yea I don't get it either to be honest.

[Anonymous No.15869302]

>>15869292
>>15869294

This is hilarious. Thanks for the education anons, super helpful.

[Anonymous No.15869311]

>>15869292
>>15869294
It's a status thing. If all your WA street buddies at the Hamptons have one and you don't, you're objectively a loser obviously. Seriously follow some wall street IG accounts and they all flex the same shit. Rolex Subs or explorers, Gucci loafers, patagonia vests etc. Rich people are somehow bigger retards than poor people

[Anonymous No.15869314]

>>15869291
Glad you understand how retarded the situation is. The purpose of rolex now is for rich new money asians to flex on other rich new money asians, nothing more

[Anonymous No.15869315]

>>15869311
Yes, this was made fun of in American Psycho and nothing has changed

[Anonymous No.15869316]

>>15867624
Objectively yes.

It's nuts what Grand Seiko is able to do, but normies are just badge whores.

[Anonymous No.15869327]

>>15869314
And it also goes to show that the idiot keyboard warriors on /fa/ writing about how the Daytona is superior to the El Primero or whatever are just full of shit

[Anonymous No.15869329]

>>15867624
Which model is this it's pretty

[Anonymous No.15869330]

What's a good upgrade from a $40 thrift store Bulova?
Requirements: American brand/ headquarters in the United States of America.
Price: under $600

[Anonymous No.15869333]

>>15869314
The thing that makes it ultra retarded is that Patek, AP, Vacheron ... these brands carry more status points than Rolex as well. So you're literally just paying for the name Rolex on those watches not anything that is superior in ANY WAY including superficially

[Anonymous No.15869340]

>>15869291
This is how it goes at the dealerships
>Rolex
If they are a dealer that gets reasonable traffic so they aren't hurting for customers, they will bundle it. You can have your Sub but you have to buy something else like a $15k Cartier and some other equally expensive watch, or have purchased other Rolexs in the past like the meme Cellini. You will not get one for less than the cost of 3 watches, unless the dealer is desperate or you are some extreme well-known big baller.
>AP
I have little interest in AP, but I hear they try to push the CODE 11:59 or w/e hard on people because nobody fucking likes that watch.
>PP
As said above, they will sell you anything straight up besides a steel Nautilus and they have people who patrol watch sales forums and shit to see if you're flipping it because they know the demand is high and they seem to not make a ton of them out of a dislike of the watch itself, as a company.
It's all very retarded because for the time and money you need to spend in order to get a steel Rolex sports watch, which can be competed against in specs and build quality by fucking microbrands at this point, you could walk in and walk out within 20 minutes having purchased a true precious metal HH piece.

[Anonymous No.15869345]

>>15869333
Most people don't know a thing about the movement in their watch, the engine in their bmw/merc/audi, they're literally buying the badge to show off

[Anonymous No.15869349]

>>15869330
Traska commuter
https://www.traskawatch.com/commuter

[Anonymous No.15869356]

Hans Wilsdorf was a marketer, not a watchmaker

[Anonymous No.15869368]

>>15869340
Interesting. I'm also uninterested in AP and unfortunately I have a bit of a bad association with PP for several subjective persona reasons so I would probably, if I could, watch into a VC dealer and buy an Overseas chronograph same day.

[Anonymous No.15869370]

>>15867674
g shock or forester

[Anonymous No.15869374]

>>15869245
bernhardt is a very old microbrand, specializing in divers.
ive only seen their watches on WUS before.
im surprised your gf would know such a thing.
its good

>>15869330
>under $600
>america
hamilton
lorier
marathon
timex
bulova
islander
bertucci
nodus

none of them are truly made in america but they are/were american brands
probably forgot some

[Anonymous No.15869380]

>>15869345
The point is a Rolex badge is roughly equivalent to a Mercedes badge where a Patek badge is roughly equivalent to a Rolls-Royce badge.

Would you rather have four Mercedes cars or one Rolls-Royce (and still have spent less)? I know what I would go for

[Anonymous No.15869385]

>>15869374
>>15869330
oh yes, maratec
i was thinking of another brand that starts with a M besides marathon but i couldnt remember it

[Anonymous No.15869391]

Is the DW5610 with solar that much better than the regular square? Is it just $60 more for solar and radio and everything else is the same?

[Anonymous No.15869402]

>>15869356
i wonder how much money rolex makes in a year
and their status as a "charity" is probably for tax evasion purposes.

[Anonymous No.15869408]

>>15869391
It actually regresses in some ways, on the radio solar model you can't show the countdown timer/ chronograph and the current time on the same screen. The alarm is also a bit quieter than it is on the battery model. But the atomic time setting is nice and the solar charging will give you a long ass time with no maintenance. That said they battery models generally last 5 years or more unless you use the light constantly.

[Anonymous No.15869412]

>>15869245
Post your gf's nudes on /wt/ as revenge.

[Anonymous No.15869413]

>>15869374
>>15869349
>>15869385
Thanks a bunch guys.

Game: identify this watch. It.will be reviewed with my Casio beater and Uncle Sam book

[Anonymous No.15869418]

>>15867857
well, the US military is a gender joke like the nation, so why not?

[Anonymous No.15869429]

>>15867899
its not the watch us army gives out now, thats the marathon digital one

its just invicta larping

>>15869418

[Anonymous No.15869435]

>>15869315
Paul Allen has a Cartier in the movie. While Patrick has a datejust.

[Anonymous No.15869444]

>>15869413
Too late, going to bed. Good night watchers

[Anonymous No.15869447]

New Alpinist
European exclusive

[Anonymous No.15869454]

>>15869447
>cyclops
y do they do this to us

[Anonymous No.15869493]

>>15869447
meh
the green 1 is the best, or the unobtainium teal SSASS one
followed by maybe the blue NA one.

[Anonymous No.15869494]

>>15867700
Can I follow her somewhere? Find the full set of these?

[Anonymous No.15869509]

>>15869493
Oooh i like that color

[Anonymous No.15869511]

>>15869493
Not sure on this one, the sub-indicators (1, 3, 5...) kind of make it look cluttered, the love the colour tho

[Anonymous No.15869521]

>>15869429
it seems that the Marathon GPD was at some time replaced with the Casio DW-9052-1V (1659): https://www.nsncenter.com/NSN/6645-01-356-5944

[Anonymous No.15869522]

what is the cheapest minute repeater ever? i know whatever it is will still be expensive but still would love to know

[Anonymous No.15869527]

>>15869413
whats with that lume pattern

any more clues?
>>15869509
i know
its also rarer than a swimming unicorn, only 500 were made. Frankens exist too, as people were buying the black one and replacing the dial and chapter ring to make it look like the ssass one
>>15869511
>>15869509
theres a beat up, scratched to shit one with a dead battery on ebay from 4 different sellers using the same exact photos (???) and its at $5,500

[Anonymous No.15869528]

>>15869522
Citizen did some quartz ones, probably the cheapest.

[Anonymous No.15869532]

>>15869527
> 5.5k for an alpinist
fml the regular alpinists sell for a ton more than they're worth but that's ridiculous

[Anonymous No.15869533]

>>15869374
She knew that I had a Binnacle Diver in my sights and that I had a soft spot for the Seiko Monster with the shark tooth dial. She also thought that the PVD two tone would go with my neutral palette. I’m thinking of sending this back to the company to swap for the no date dial. The window is driving me crazy

[Anonymous No.15869555]

[Anonymous No.15869568]

moggs everything

[Anonymous No.15869571]

>>15869429
the army won't hand out top specs timepieces made by a century old Swiss company to average grunts, these Invicta specials go straight to top brass generals and black ops guys

[Anonymous No.15869580]

Post your favorite obscure watch brand. Bonus points if you’ve never seen it posted here.

[Anonymous No.15869588]

>>15868513
I'd agree with your assessment; a microbrand has the capability of weathering the storm, the problem is that they risk losing identity by pivoting. The ability to pivot in my view was destroyed by the advances of quartz. I mean, how do you pivot from 'traditional technology, heritage, etc.' quickly? It can make one look like a politician.

Should I bake a new bread?

[Anonymous No.15869613]

>>15867857
Buy 1 get the other 2 free?

[Anonymous No.15869615]

>>15869281
>more movement spacer than movement
Wtf

[Anonymous No.15869619]

New Bread:
>>15869618
>>15869618
>>15869618

[Anonymous No.15869670]

>>15869533
wish they made this in 40 or smaller. otherwise v cool beater imo

[Anonymous No.15869717]

>>15869264
A Seiko of some kind.

[Anonymous No.15869754]

>>15868399
>>15868405
>>15868410

I love the AT but the mintue hand need lume on the shaft, micro adjustable clasp and it would sell far more. In some lighting, what time is it bro?

[Anonymous No.15869967]

>>15869006
Fake and gay, royal oak is not water resistant enough fo such endeavors.

[Anonymous No.15870741]

>>15869241
I'm curious. I'm not interested in buying a Rolex personally, but if you have to spend $20-$30k before you can buy the Rolex you want from an AD, why dont people just buy the Rolex they want straight off the grey market and bypass all that AD bullshit? Surely the grey market mark-up is less that spending all that money on watches they dont want?