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Most based caseback option Edition

This thread is about the appreciation of watches and their design, their history, and the engineering and materials that are required to make a functioning timepiece.


Guides:
> Poorfag guide: https://m.imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
> Watch essentials 102: https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV
> Purchasing used watches: https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2
> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE

Should I buy this MVMT / DW / "minimalist" fashion watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

Should I buy this Armani / Michael Kors / mall watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/Sw1FsAn

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
> Wrist size or desired watch size

Vintage reference >>15860940

>> No.15864823
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1st for stainless stunners

>> No.15864825

>>15864790
Watches seem obsolete these days with smart watches and they’re only getting better.

I’d take a watch that can call people, count steps, change songs, read text messages, heartbeat etc over a Patex or a Rolex any day

>> No.15864826
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>call a jewlery store to ask if they do trade-in’s
>state that i have a pretty nice watch in great condition with box, papers etc
>tell them that on chrono24 and ebay this model is sold consistently for a certain amount

>”WELLLL I WOULDN’T PRICE IT ANYWHERE NEAR THAT PRICE”
>”WELLLLL BLAH BLAH BLAH”

why does haggling/negotiating make me feel like a primitive subhuman savage?

must one be jewish or indian to feel comfortable with it? because i can’t fucking stand it.

>> No.15864828

>>15864408
Tbh I feel the same and I have a decent middle class job. I'm already larping as a scuba diver/james bond/pilot/cool guy and I dont need to add rich phucker into the mix lol
>>15864722
This pisses me off as well. I know I should not take it so seriously, but what kind of modern world do we live in where the greatest quest in english literature is likened to going to the store and buying a trinket that you wage slaved for? At least make it a watch you have to look hard for

>> No.15864847
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15864847

What was your first rolex investment piece wt?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXuokhBAnX8

>> No.15864859

my quartz shitter will be here saturday

>> No.15864879
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Now in these times when it can get pretty cold, do you not fear of the condensation that might and likely occurs in your watch by going from a cold environment into a warm one?

Unless you wear an argon-filled Sinn or something.

>> No.15864907

>>15864847
God that's fucking ugly. How are people so tasteless.

>> No.15864908

>>15864879
Put your watch in some rice when you get home if this concerns you so much

>> No.15864920

>>15864879
That's why everyone needs a cheap beater watch that they don't care about abusing

>> No.15864922

>>15864908
This would make sense, if the watch wasnt watertight. Im talking about the air that is already IN the watch case from production or repair or whenever the case was opened.

>> No.15864923

>>15864823
Do you work in a lab anon?

>> No.15864928
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Love the sunburst pattern.

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>>15864928
and the grain on the dial

>> No.15864938
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15864938

Cavendish and Alaphilippe

>> No.15864939

>>15864929

just buy a Breguet lmao

>> No.15864963
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>>15864823
Nice...how's it running?

>pic for the stainless stunner

>>15864825
Mechanical watches have been obsolete since the quartz revolution in the 70s. Wristwatches have been obsolete since the first smartphone. The sole function of wristwatches today is 1) jewelry, 2) art, and 3) wealth signaling.

>>15864826
Right now the market is heavily saturated with people trying to sell due to the economic downturn from Covid lockdowns. If you are a brick and mortar selling a watch with full box and papers, you can probably go for the average or a little higher than what you see on Chrono24, but if you're an individual selling privately, you have to downgrade your price around 15% or so. If you try to keep it high, no one will buy. Trading in is even worse, because the place you are trading in to has to make a profit both ways: they have to be assured they can sell the watch for a profit and they have to make a profit on the watch they're selling you. If you want to sell your watch, depending on what it is and what condition, Chrono24 would be better in this climate...just don't expect to get the median return.

>>15864828
Agreed, but remember that you're wearing the watch for you, not for others. Just wear what you love, and if you need to save up for it, then do so. There's lots of time.

>>15864847
None; I've been thinking of a Rolex Cellini Prince for a while, but then I found a Patek rectangular from the 1920s which is nicer....still haven't pulled the trigger though because the Roger Dubuis Much More is an excellent modern contender. Rolex can gain if you 1) buy a stainless steel sports model and 2) put it in a safe for 20 years.

>>15864879
No; condensation inside the watch indicates moisture, which usually means that you may have bigger problems than just the cold. Normally with modern watches you won't get condensation at all; if you do it's usually a sign of water ingress and the need to have it serviced ASAP.

>> No.15864964

>>15864938
Is Cav actually a lefty or did he do it for the photo?

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>>15864964
Looks like he’s a lefty on top of being a fatty

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>>15864907
Because the average human being is not informed regarding aesthetic balance, and the market happily supports them to sell a product. Just look at the survival of Alain Silberstein.

>>15864920
Agreed, though I do wonder what people actually do to 'abuse' their watch. I mean, banging into doorknobs or hitting countertops is probably normal usage, but are people chopping wood or changing a tire wearing a Patek? It's so strange to me...just take off the watch before doing something stupid.

>>15864928
Looks awesome!

>>15864929
Never been a fan of the circle hour hand, but that's just me.

>>15864938
I have never understood the appeal of Mille. They do get everyone to wear their watches though....

>> No.15864976

>>15864969
No wonder I always hated him, fuck leftys :v)
He is svelte compared to Kristoff.

>> No.15864993

>>15864963
>Nice...how's it running?

I think it gains around 5 seconds a day. Pretty good for a 25k vph (or something like that) watch that i wind once every 3 days.

And condensation can build up inside a sealed watched. There's moisture in the air inside the case. Its acceptable as long as it goes away quickly. If it lingers, it indicates a leakage.

>> No.15864995

>>15864976
Hmm I always liked Cav and I’m a lefty so... I’m a bit offended. I wear my watches on the correct arm though.

>> No.15865006

#15864974
#15864963
mass replying should be bannable offense a

>> No.15865008

>>15864995
>i wear my watch on the correct arm though
I only slightly hate you then anon.

>> No.15865014
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15865014

What is the best watch to buy under $30?

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>>15864993
Interesting...my understanding was that any condensation (like when they do a block of ice on the crystal test) that forms is 'not good'...I'll have to read up more about that.

15865006
Not adding any information, experience, cool pics, or insight should be a bannable offense

>>15864995
If you're a lefty why not get a Destro from Panerai, or any number of left-handed variants of flieger watches (does Stowa do this, or is it Lacos)? I wear mine on my right and I'm a righty, and I honestly don't care because it's genuinely comfortable.

>>15865014
A Timex?

>> No.15865050

>>15864974
That's exactly why having a couple of cheap shitters for outdoor use and recreation is a nice thing. I have a few nice watches but I'm not dumb enough to wear them while hunting or working outdoors, but my G Shock takes the abuse and keeps on working just fine.

>> No.15865054

>>15865014
Casio. Any of them.

>> No.15865065

>>15865050
>t my G Shock
Which one?

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>>15865050
This may seem a strange question, but if you're out hunting or working, your phone would suffice, no?

>> No.15865075
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I wish tudor made a 36mm modern version of this

>> No.15865080

>>15865024
Never had any problem wearing it on the left. I control my computer mouse with my right anyway

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>> No.15865104

>>15864823
Nice, white hulk

>> No.15865108

>>15865065
GG-1000
>>15865066
Phones need to be charged and don't react well to mother nature. They also make noise at inconvenient times if you forget to put them on silent.
And if you've ever been innawoods then you'd know that signal reception can be almost nonexistent, so they can also be unreliable.
Having a good watch, especially one with multi functions that can take abuse is a must when you're out in the middle of nowhere

>> No.15865126

>>15864939
>breguet
>anywhere near that level of finish and handwork

>> No.15865163

>>15864995
>>15865008
I'm also left handed and wear my watches on my left arm simply because it's a pain to reach the crown if I wear it on my right arm.

>> No.15865176

>>15864974
>banging into doorknobs or hitting countertops is probably normal usage

I always heard the doorknob thing, and In my 30 years of wearing watches I think I never hit a doorknob with my watch, scratches against a wall, yes, maybe three or four, but never doorknobs or even hitting a table, just the average scratch from friction or when leaving it at some place.

>> No.15865183

>>15865163
Lefty here as well. It just feels natural to wear a watch on my prefered arm. Seems weird to me to think righties wear it on their less capable hand.

>> No.15865191

>>15865183
For me (righty), manipulating the strap, winding the crown or even putting the watch on with my not domaninant hand becomes a hassle.

>> No.15865258

Do people actually wind or set the time of their watch while it's on their wrist? I never even tried because it seems like it would be annoying and hard to manipulate the ctown.

>> No.15865271

>>15865258
No, it’s annoying and hard as you say and I don’t want to bend the crown stem.

>> No.15865338

I WANT A BB36 WITH AN IN-HOUSE MOVEMENT
I DON’T WANT A SELLITA SW-200
FUCK

>> No.15865345

>>15865191
Oh that's right, I guess us lefties are used to use our right hand for a lot of operations like manipulating the strap.

>> No.15865369

>>15865338
That seems strange to me

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>>15864974
>Never been a fan of the circle hour hand, but that's just me.

P L E B
L
E
B

>> No.15865411
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15865411

Is this the ultimate sanic-themed watch?

>> No.15865460
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When is the cunt gonna release another group b series.

Was 2020 the worst year for microshitter drops? How likely is it to carry on in 2021

>> No.15865471

>>15865460
I can't fucking read that shit. Scrap it

>> No.15865499

>>15865460
A few months m8, "in the spring" was the last timeframe for group b's restocking last I checked.

>> No.15865502
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>>15860783
Actually, somehow I've settled on it, maybe. Perhaps my opinion will change again by the time I feel comfortable buying it next year or so. I ended up liking this dial texture even more than the snowflake.

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>>15865502
A runner up. I mostly only like it for all of the tech but don't care about the design that much. Hardened titanium, +- 5 sec a year, perpetual calendar. Kind of like a quartz Damasko, really.

>> No.15865510
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>>15865508
Just a slightly modded ETA inside, but the design is quite nice.

>> No.15865516
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>>15865510
It's cute and quirky. Movement is pretty to look at, too. But among Nomos I'm never really sure which one I want, anyway.

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it looks like a tasty Doughnut
mhhhhhhh

>> No.15865628

was the supercase a mistake?

>> No.15865650

>>15865502
The bubble glass ruins its but that is nice!

>> No.15865653

>>15865650
>he doesn't like domed crystals
Not gonna make it...

>> No.15865669

>>15865653
They are too distracting with the glare and reflection they create. I'm not alone!

>> No.15865741

>>15865594
That engraving on the side is invicta tier, or is it that the engravings on the side of invictas are blancpain tier?

>> No.15865760

>>15865741
If the person you're asking owns an invicta or blancpain then its blancpain tier. People that dont own either will say its invicta tier trash for fat boomers and russian oligarchs

>> No.15865772

>>15865014
Dollar General sells decent watches at your price point

>> No.15865817

>>15865760
On the video of Teddy's bitches talking about watches they roasted a Blancpain saying it was too tacky with the strap and appearance and probably a cheap watch, but I think it was a Batiscaphe.

>> No.15865822
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How long until ZOOMERS find out about this brand?

>> No.15865829

>>15865822
It's a shit watch, and the rest of the brand watches are boring.

>> No.15865836

>>15865594
>watch brand is called white bread
lol

>> No.15865839

>>15865836
It really sounds like and edgelord's online name xxBlancPAINxx

>> No.15865852

>>15865817
V. Nice. Out of curiosity, which watches did they like the best?

>> No.15865853

>>15865516

i used to own that watch. the lack of quickset date feature was enough of a pain that i eventually gave it away.

it’s beautiful in person, though the case does feel a little cheap.

>> No.15865857

>>15865829
>It's a shit watch,
Better than Nautilus and RO. Still don't like it though
>and the rest of the brand watches are boring
Agree

>> No.15865861

>>15865594
>Name literally means bread

>>15865510
I love these but can't get myself to want to spend money on them

>>15865508
Why do Japs hate Lume in their HAQ

>> No.15865863

>>15865822
Not long, buy one now if you want to get one at a good price. That said I'm not impressed with the finish and I think the Royal Oak still looks better.

>> No.15865864

>>15865338
I just wish they had the modified ETAs still.
The Modifications were the shit

>>15865075
Old Tudor is better, imho

>> No.15865872
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15865872

Yee haw

>> No.15865921

>>15865508
Nice toilet paper dial. These usually look amazing but am I the only one who's not impressed by the dial on this one?

>> No.15865930
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Imagine a SEGA x Tudor campaign

>> No.15865932

there was a post that compared the fit and finish of a real rolex compared to that of a knock off, and the knock off actually looked better, I believe it was a shanghi special

but yes, there are some decent fakes out there for the 'fake it until you make it' crowd

>> No.15865958

>>15865014
Is that costanza pretending to smoke in season 7?

>> No.15865981

IT'S UP! IT'S UP!

https://youtu.be/SEUXgsWQx0s

>> No.15866014

>>15865981
Faggot

>> No.15866019

>>15865981
Yooooo, this guy looks like he eats ass with a fork and knife

>> No.15866022

>>15865981
Oh shit, ohh shit, I'm gonna, I'm gonnnaa
>TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG

>> No.15866028

>>15865822
If my for-real grail watch is a FiftySix am I a faggot?

>> No.15866052

>>15866028
No, you just have good taste.

>> No.15866078
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>>15865861
They usually have one model somewhere that has lume.

>>15865921
I kind of just grabbed any that you could get on seiyajapan, although now that I think about it the fact that I did it like that means I really don't care and shouldn't get it, despite their impressive case hardening and accuracy.

>> No.15866084

>>15865921
The dial itself is meh in person IMO, but the shadows under it make the other elements float over it, it's actually impressive to see.
But this design looks very cold to me anyway.

>> No.15866095

>>15865822
Hopefully never. Let VC to tasteful people.

>> No.15866105

>>15865872
Sheik, please stop posting.

>> No.15866184
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>>15864929
>>15864928
9/10
That hole in the breguet hand kills it from perfection.

>> No.15866196
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>>15866052
Based

>> No.15866200
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I just like it, bros.

>> No.15866212

>>15866200
So then buy it

>> No.15866216
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>>15866212

But then strangers on a chinese cartoon board will make fun of me and i won't like it no mo

>> No.15866225

>>15866216
i wont but i kinda will

>> No.15866261
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15866261

look at this ugly watch that has caught my eye. i might get it, maybe.

>> No.15866267

>>15866216
>actually giving a shit what /wt/ chang thinks
just get a Soi/Shitko then ya yellow belly

>> No.15866281
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>>15866261

>> No.15866283

>>15866216
you'll probably be the 1st guy to buy a B&R here

do it

>> No.15866308

>>15864790
>my watch is the best watch for me that i could afford
>just because there are better or more expensive watches than mine does not mean my watch is bad

>> No.15866313

>>15866308
who are you quoting?

>> No.15866331

>>15864963
Except your wrong, as far as RAWLECKS inventories are still low and dealers are trying to suck up as much as they can. You have no evidence that more people are selling due to corona but several watch youtubers that work in the industry say the opposite has happened. People spend money they couldn't spend on vacations on a nice watch. Anon was probably just trying to sell some less desirable vintage swiss and of course they are still going to try and jew him.

>> No.15866343

>>15865594
is this the goatse watch, looks like a prolapsed rectum

>> No.15866345

>>15866313
me

>> No.15866426
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>> No.15866437
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>>15866308
ya, well
>afford
i can afford a rolex/omega
but i only buy cheap shitters, watches are not top of my spending priority
in any case, the enjoyment out of a watch is not really related to its price

>> No.15866445

Are there any G-Shocks that are good for middle aged adults?

>> No.15866450

>>15866445
The square

>> No.15866457

>>15866445
casioak
the green/grey/black is muted and its good for a weekend/ summer watch

and the squares too, i guess

>> No.15866474

>>15866445
5600

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>>15866331
For Omega, Panerai, and Roger Dubuis, I'm definitely right. I've been following their prices on the secondary market for the past 2 years, and since last July watches have been dumping onto the market in numbers far larger than before (with fewer buying them, hence the deflation in prices as well as the excess numbers).

Rolex is the only, and I mean ONLY manufacturer that is seen as an 'investment'. Finally, remember that the increase we're seeing is not only individuals selling but also brick and mortars who have been directly affected by the Covid shutdowns and can't do business.

The only way to sell a watch that isn't a Rolex is to either do so at a significant drop to a brick and mortar (if they deem it something they can resell) or doing so at a significant drop on Chrono24 and eBay. If the seller needs cash sooner, then the price drops further.

If you add in the issue of collectors retiring and getting old, you have something of a perfect storm. Older collectors are selling off their pieces one by one, not necessarily due to economic concerns but just because they're getting old and don't want to have all the money tied up. The problem is that normally the buyers would be 'informed collectors', but the majority of informed collectors are the same age and also trying to offload their watches. If the new collectors had the capital and the interest, things would be fine, but the interest in mechanical watches isn't going down by 2 generations, nor does the population 2 generations down have enough capital to buy.

It's a fucking great time to buy watches if you still have a job, and it's difficult to sell a watch if you need the money because you've been laid off or money is tight.

>tl;dr Old collectors offload their watches, but younger buyers aren't interested or have capital. Covid destroys brick-and-mortars, so everyone is selling before bankruptcy. Only way to sell a watch is at deep discount, so now's the time to buy.

>> No.15866481

>>15866474
>>15866457
>>15866450
Are you sure about the square? I really like it, but it just seems like I'd be branded a pathetic creepy neckbeard weeb with one (since I'm already ugly).

>> No.15866484

>>15866476
Yeah this is why Speedy went from 2k to 4k for example. Holy shit why are you so retarded and why do you write such moronic walls of text that have absolutely nothing to do with reality. Can't you just write a fucking diary or something.

>> No.15866486

>>15866481
>I really like it,
then just get it
make yourself happy

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15866497

>>15866484
You do realize that the Speedy is the best selling and most popular watch that Omega makes, right? You also are aware that they've been slowly increasing the MSRP of the Speedmaster for the past decade, justifying the extra cost (while keeping the watch the same) by adding a huge box, loupe, extra straps, etc.?

Have you been charting the Japanese dropping Moonwatches like hotcakes since last December on both eBay and Chrono24? Have you seen the recent uptick in prices ever since Omega declared that they're discontinuing the 1861 with the replacement 3861? You're not thinking, and I'm beginning to think you don't /fa/.

I believe it is time for your daily dilation, ma'am.

>> No.15866507

The Speedy is the reason why Omega will never be taken seriously.

>> No.15866513
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>>15866484
Try this, sweaty.

Do a search for two-tone Rolex Datejusts. Look at the pricing possibilities compared with condition, box and papers (or lack thereof), year, etc. You know what you'll find? A shittonne, far more than could ever be sold to an adoring public. You know why? Because they're undesirable. They don't increase in value after they're sold. You compare that with ANY steel sports watch from Rolex and it's entirely different. Daytonas, Deepseas, etc, all increase in value the moment they leave the boutique. They're desirable in an artificially induced market...gotta go...

>> No.15866517

>>15866481
Yes the square is a bog standard mowing the lawn or doing yard work watch for millennials and gen x. Nobody will even think twice about you wearing it.

>> No.15866529

>>15866497
>>15866513
Ok just find me a Japanese Speedy for $2k then avatarfagging spamtard.

>> No.15866542

>>15866481
im 36 and i've worn a square for almost half a decade. Thing is bomb proof. I just got the full plain black one with the cordura strap. I have other watches but I find this is one of two that I rotate often. Something about not giving a fk about it. Get big strong arms and you'll be fine, you can pull anything off. Having said that, I also own a f91 and an a168, and haven't ever had a problem with any of them

>> No.15866562

>>15866542
>the full plain black one with the cordura strap.
You know what I'd love to see?

A titanium one with that kind of a strap. Surely it's possible somehow.

>> No.15866580

Should I buy a new motorcycle or an $8000 watch?

>> No.15866581

>>15866580
8 etheriums

>> No.15866594

>>15866580
A $2500 motorcycle and a $5500 watch, or a $4500 watch and a grand worth of nice leathers and riding safety gear if you don't have it already.

>> No.15866596

>>15866580
500 stinky linkies

>> No.15866599

>>15866581

i thought eth was basically declared dead years ago

>> No.15866608

>>15866437
>the enjoyment out of a watch is not really related to its price
I know but the hype is hard to ignore

>> No.15866610
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>>15866484
Sorry, the Tuttonero is running fast for some odd reason.

What I was going to say was that there are specific models that are undesirable and thus flood the market; the two-tone DateJust being one of the 'entry-level' models that Rolex ADs encourage new customers to buy so they can get on the wait lists to be 'preferred customers'. Now, what happens to these undesirable watches bought in order to get better ones? The owners try to sell them as soon as possible, hence the flood. That's why there are so many that could never be absorbed by the market. You see the same with Cellinis, incidentally.

With Omega, you'll find Moonwatch Speedies were going lowest for around 4.5K C$ until last January, when things started to get strange due to Covid. Omega increased the retail price from 7000 plus tax to around 7700, or a little higher depending on the dealer and the AD. At the same time, Japan started dumping Speedies in the 4K range, well below what used to be the used market low bar.

Speedies are notorious on second hand markets due to two factors: there are no fakes that are even close to being genuine (thus increased confidence in buyers), but they are also the No. 1 watch suggested by 'enthusiasts' in the watch collecting stratus to be bought by new entrants ('everyone needs a Speedy in their collection'). So, people buy the watch, and then they realize that they might not like it...so they try flipping it. But the market supports this because there's enough love for the product.

Deville Hour Visions, 8500 Cal. Omegas, and others from the 2005-2012 era depreciate as expected (10-15% after the 10-15% under retail after purchase), but the early 2500 Cal go down significantly due to the shit movement. From the 90's, only the 2531.80 Bond Seamasters hold value; the Mark 40 that I have plummeted to around 2K starting, which is wonderful for a triple date Valjoux 7751.

>> No.15866611

>>15866599
Well ETH went from 600/ each to 1200 each within now and just before Christmas so your 8k would have been 16k. I've made $17k in 7 months of crypto ask me anything

>> No.15866614
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>>15866610
Holy fuck kill that thing with fire

Last is more

>> No.15866617
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>>15866529
The lowest price right now is around 4200 Canadian. About half retail price, but usually for no-box or papers. The Speedy reduced will be below 2000 Canadian, and the Mark 40 variants start around 2200. Are you interested in a Moonwatch in particular? Also, bear in mind that Sapphire will be more expensive than Hesalite, and the condition of the watch affects the price directly. If you want a Cal. 321, the starting price for a vintage is around 10,000 Canadian.

>>15866580
Depends on the motorcycle or the watch. Do you need either?

>> No.15866619
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>>15864790
I can't find a casio w-202 for sale in the US. Did they stop making them?

>> No.15866633
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>>15866614
Beautiful, though I disagree that it needs to be killed with fire.

As a last thought about the market. If you know your watches, know your prices, or have been following a particular model and brand for the past 2 years, you'll have seen evidence that all points to a real perfect storm of events.

Collectors normally only sell and trade with other collectors, but now they're all getting old and dying off. The young people who 'should' be replacing the stock aren't there because they have no interest and would rather spend money on computer-related technology. The middle generations who appreciate 'haute horology' don't have the capital to collect, and the numbers of people in this generation who might have the capital but not the knowledge required to understand why a lollypop Speedy should be worth 10k more than one from 1968 are dwindling fast. There's even a serious discussion now surrounding whether or not 'patina' should create the premium it does, even though serious watchmakers will attest to it simply being damage. What happens when a new generation of collectors doesn't 'value' patina as the old collectors did? The prices will have to drop if the watches are going to change hands.

Something is happening, and the watch Youtubers (who are mostly representatives for Watch Shops) will not discuss this for fear of hurting their own business. They WANT there to be enthusiasm and interest in the wares they are selling, but if you watch some of the new reviews of the Speedy 3861 just released on Tuesday, you'll notice that quite a number of them sound like they're talking about the minute differences between a Chanel Handbag from 2009 vs. one from 2010. It's actually quite appalling.

What do you think?

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>>15866596
based

>> No.15866654
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>>15866642

>> No.15866657

Good, let the industry burn. I’m sick of the Patek speculators and the deranged Rolex faggots who suck off ADs and any old man with a PATINA sunburst dial mk. 4.

I also find the Speedmaster autism surrounding the new release cringeworthy and I own an 1861. It all just seems like advanced cope for not purchasing a 321.

>> No.15866670

>>15864825
We are on /fa/ not /g/ did you forget that ?

>> No.15866674
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15866674

>when you have the original astronaut watch, and first automatic chronograph, but get overshadowed by the man on the fookin moon watch

>> No.15866679
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15866679

>>15866657
It's going to be strange, that's for sure. Patek, VC, and AP will never lower their prices, but their production numbers are still relatively low. Same with ALS. Within that category you have outliers like Richard Mille (with lots of watches available but all at prices no one would bother paying for for a used watch) and Roger Dubuis (which heavily devalues if it's not from the time when he was head of the company in the 90s to early 2000s).

Under this you have Rolex (stainless steel is the only holder of value, everything else devalues), Omega (Speedy only, everything else devalues), and the rest (which all devalue regardless). Under that you have Oris, Longines, and the rest which guarantee to devalue.

There are strange ones in the middle like Tudor, which have managed to find a way to be attractive to the up-and-coming wealthy, but the designs are of-the-moment and will age obviously (but not necessarily badly). Some Tudors hold, but most devalue since it's still a poor-man's Rolex.

Grand Seiko doesn't seem to care, nor does the market. They don't devalue that heavily, but they don't increase either.

It's the really in-depth collecting parameters that are in danger here. A correct dot-over-90 bezel used to be able to increase the price of a Speedy by 5-10K if the condition was good...but if no one cares (or if someone simply takes it into Omega servicing knowing that everything damaged will be replaced), then that value won't work on the open market.

Actually, I don't know why more people don't do this: buy the lowest price you can afford, take it into servicing, and still have a brand new watch for a fraction of what a brand-new watch would cost.

>>15866674
Hold on....the Breitling Cosmonaute wasn't automatic wind at the time it was used in space. I used the movement pic here: >>15865066
It's an awesome watch though...one day I might pull the trigger.

>> No.15866684

>>15866610
>Sorry, the Tuttonero is running fast for some odd reason.
Is this loser really namedropping watches he owns to justify his spergery?

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>>15866679
>Breitling Cosmonaute wasn't automatic wind at the time it was used in space.

Ah I didn't know that. I inherited mine. My uncle bought it back in the early 1970s, wore it a few times and then had it in storage since. I still think it was the first automatic chronograph, regardless.

I still have the original box and leather strap. I took it off since it was flawless and got a contemporary Breitling strap to actually wear it.

>> No.15866697
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15866697

The perfect collection. Prove me wrong.

>> No.15866706
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>>15866696
Make sure you get it serviced by a trusted watchmaker if it's been sitting in storage that long. Shame the Buren 1282 wasn't used much after this.

Yours is in top shape; wear it in good health! (but make sure to have it serviced!)

>>15866697
I don't see enough Seiko there...

>> No.15866707

>>15866216
>>15866200
lol in all seriousness, and although /wt/ is still better than r/watches, the truth is that the taste of people in this thread continues to astound me at how shitty it is. Buy what you like.

>> No.15866710

>>15866697
not enough seikos

>> No.15866723
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15866723

>be me, Autismus Maximus
>finally, somehow, manage to get a gf
>sucessfully avoid spilling my spaghetti talking about watches with her
>she says she wants a fucking awful Movado for her birthday

well /wt/, it was fun while it lasted...

>> No.15866726

>>15866697
Drop the white sarb since you have the Monta, drop all three of the Seiko divers, then acquire a proper diver.

>> No.15866730

>>15866723
Get her the perpetual calendar...she'll love the gold, and you can explain to her how it works. Win-win.

>I don't have a picture...just trust me.

>> No.15866731

>>15866706
>but make sure to have it serviced!

How much would that be? I've worn it a few times, maybe a week it's been running or so. It keeps perfect time so far.

>> No.15866732

>>15866723
movado is fine~
yes its a fashion watch but its also quite iconic
>>15866726
wth is a "proper diver"?

>> No.15866734
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>>15866723
weird, thats not the image I uploaded.
Anyways, this is the watch she wants.

I should dump her, right?

>> No.15866735

Recently was sent files for a 3d printed mechanical clock. Should I build it or is it lame? Will take 90 hours of printing I have two printers that I can dedicate it

>> No.15866739

>>15866734
You idiot. You don’t realize you have been blessed. You do not want a girl who wants a Cartier or Rolex or god forbid Patek. You want a girl who is happy with a $200 quartz shitter so that you can spend money on yourself.

>> No.15866741

>>15866734
expecting a woman to be autistic over watches is like expecting a man to be autistic over handbags
women only see watches as fashion accessories, nothing more
dont expect her to like a nerdy seiko or whatever
if you are lucky she might like babyGs
>>15866735
sounds fun
do it and post progress here

>> No.15866749
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15866749

>>15866731
The issue is that it's a mechanical movement with nearly 50 year old lubrication inside. That's not ideal if you're going to be running the movement.

Servicing costs depend on who does it. A trusted watchmaker could do it for around 250$ or so, assuming he doesn't have to replace any parts (which might be tough to find). Sending it directly to Breitling would be more expensive (you'd have to check...I've never owned a Breitling nor had one serviced by them); for a mechanical chronograph, maybe 900$? But since it's vintage, it might be more.

If it were me, I'd take it to my watch guy because I wouldn't want anyone to fuck with the original condition of it. Yours is essentially 'mint' condition, so the issue here is that you want the movement to be cleaned and lubricated so you can wear it; you don't want the dial or hands fucked with in any way, or the old lume replaced with new.

That's what I'd do anyway.

>>15866734
nah, that's fine for a Movado. Nothing wrong with these watches or the women who were them. As long as you don't have to beg for sex after.

>>15866735
Sounds fun; what have you got to lose?

>> No.15866750

Official Redditcore Collection:
>Rolex Submariner
>Rolex Explorer
>Omega Speedmaster
>Omega Seamaster
>Seiko SRPD
>Seiko Alpinist
>Casio Royale

Am I missing anything out?

>> No.15866754

>>15866750
Orient bambinoes

>> No.15866759

>>15866633
Disagree about the younger generation. Lots of young people like watches, they just care mostly about brand name and want "rollies" or "pahtecks" and don't care much for actual horology.

I agree about the point regarding patina tho, and I have many times enjoyed receiving a watch that was restored and now "collectors" don't want it, so I pick it up for cheap and it looks great.

Patina only looks good in certain situations. Slightly yellowed indices I can appreciate. I can't understand people trying to sell a corroded, rusted up datejust for what a new one costs at retail and trying to justify it as patina.

>> No.15866770

>>15866750
>only own one watch on that last
Guess I’m based.

>> No.15866781
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15866781

Ladies and gentlemen, I have sold my Speedmaster.


(in order to buy the new Speedmaster)

>> No.15866787

>>15866781
why downgrade to the new one?

>> No.15866793

>>15866781
LMFAO you can't be that much of an idiot can you, please tell me you're memeing.

>> No.15866802

what watch is this?
https://youtu.be/9oBrE5DRLVY?t=140

>> No.15866806

>>15866793
Not memeing. I saw that the old models were still selling at high prices (I lost exactly $750 and I've owned this watch for two or three years now) and decided I'd try the new one. I haven't ordered yet, but I'm certainly planning to.

>> No.15866811

>>15865829
>>15865857
>Vacheron watches are boring
Compared to what?

>> No.15866813

what's more accurate, a rolex or an f-91w?

>> No.15866815

>>15866813
F-91W, by a long shot.

>> No.15866816

>>15866811
You’re about to enter an argument with people who have never even owned a decent watch, much less a piece from Vacheron.

>> No.15866817
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15866817

>>15866617
damn I want a speedmaster reduced but have spent way to much money on watches recently. will have to hodl until a decent example pops up, preferably without the shitty bracelet (I'd just an uncle seiko flat link one I reckon.)

>> No.15866818

>>15865863
>I'm not impressed with the finish
Buddy, the Overseas has Geneva Seal finish both inside and out.

>> No.15866821
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15866821

>>15866596
>>15866642
>>15866654
holy based

>> No.15866825

>>15866781
Well i can't say you picked a bad time to sell it.
You planning on getting a new one with sapphire or hesalite?
I know the speedy is iconic but there has to be some other interesting chronos in that proce range.

>> No.15866829

>>15866679
Thank you for the effort posting anon- what impact are micro brands having in your view?

>> No.15866835

>>15866825
Going with the hesalite, same as I did the first time. The bezel insert is aluminum anyways, and the bracelet shows wear pretty fast, it's not going to be a pristine watch for long, may as well let the crystal look a little worn as well. If it ever effected legibility you could buff it out easy.

>> No.15866839

Complete newfag to the wt. Been lurking for a bit, checked out the OP poorfag guide but don't really care for much of those. Recommend a beater daily watch.

<= $200 with give to go higher if necessary
Must be analog
Don't care about movement
Some water resist might be nice, but not an absolute necessity.

Some side things:
Will be used during my job in food service and soon will transition to my job in a hospital setting.
Would not need to be dressy at all, but I don't want a really tacky looking plastic thing, I really just don't care for the Casio look.

I'd be getting a nicer watch later down the line, but for now I'd want something for every day and wouldn't mind if it got scuffed a bit.

>> No.15866841

I live in Switzerland and I don't know shit about watches. Read the sticky, but there are barely any swiss watches there.

My budget is $500. I want a blue or green dial and not a dress watch. Average/thin wrist, so above 43mm is probably too big. Wat do?

>> No.15866847
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15866847

>>15866841
Get a green dial hamilton with the manual wind movement, preferably the older hi-beat 2804-2 in it.

>> No.15866848

>>15866839
Personally I'd look into the Islander series from Long Island Watch. The dive models might be out of your price range, but the dress watches, pilot watches, and field watches should all be right in that zone.

>> No.15866851

>>15866184
it's not a breguet hand

it's an observatoire hand

>> No.15866859

>>15866841
>I live in Switzerland
>My budget is $500.
lol waht

>> No.15866861

>>15866841
Tissot LeLocle would be my choice.

>> No.15866867

>>15866847
Perhaps I was not clear. I meant emerald green, not camouflage green.

I'm not a fan of field watches. Diver would be perfect., because I want something a little more flashy than practical. Field watch is slightly too casual and as I mentioned, I don't really know much about the topic, so I don't care about hi-beat movement on an ugly watch.

>> No.15866875
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15866875

>>15866867
Oh right, it might be reddit but if you after emerald Greem get an alpinist, the older SARB017
Unless you have an issue with wearing japanese watches since you swiss and all.

>> No.15866876

>>15866841
Look at some citizens

>> No.15866879
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15866879

>>15865930
Pick their watches /wt/

>> No.15866885

>>15866879
Sonics so fast. One could say he's a speed master

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>>15866879
this could be sonic, it's high beat

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>>15866879

>> No.15866909

>>15866841
>>15866867
im pretty sure theres no swiss diver under $500, plus a small one at that

your best bet is japanese/russian/microbrands
i would have recommended the islander38 green but its out of stock at the moment and i dont know if they ship to EU

Orient has green divers, Seiko has green divers. Vostok Neptune is a nice green.
i know you dont want dress watches but the Vario empire emerald green is a very nice one, and its not a typical dress watch

>> No.15866920

>>15866879
Wheres sonichu? He should be a particularly bad chinese knockoff maybe apex rare

>> No.15866936

>>15866920
Plenty of white space, add it in.

>> No.15866955
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15866955

>>15866936
It wasn't easy, but I did it.

>> No.15866966

>>15866739
>>15866741
this

>> No.15866967

>>15866955
high effort
10/10

>> No.15866970
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15866970

Just got this baby. I fucking love it so much

>> No.15866999

>>15866970
Looks clean
I can dig it

>> No.15867022

>>15866970
you're going to get so much dick with that

>> No.15867031

>>15866970
How does it smell?

>> No.15867040
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15867040

I opened up this shitter and had a pleasant surprise when I found a a Miyota 2115 rather than a chink copy. It surprised me as I would think they'd put 'Japanese movement' on the caseback.

>> No.15867044

>>15867031
I've missed you

>> No.15867045
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15867045

>>15867040
chinks put qc rejects in shitters :)

>> No.15867047

>>15867040
How hard is it to read the numbers on the bezel? The lighting and color reminds me of old plastic toy truck tires.

>> No.15867050

>>15867040
i dont think chinese really do quartz
cheap mechanicals yes, but quartz is the domain of japs and swiss
they arent expensive, especially wholesale.

>> No.15867064

>>15866970
cringe

>> No.15867071

>>15867045
Probably
>>15867047
It's not easy, there are versions with white painted bezel numbers.
>>15867050
I've seen chink clones of cheap Miyota quartz movements.

>> No.15867090

>>15866879
I've jerked off to Rouge ever since I was in middle school. Don't tell anybody though.

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>>15866723
Movado is based and leaves room for potential growth, just like your gf.

>> No.15867103

>>15867090
Brb, gonna go tell everybody

>> No.15867104

>>15867090
HEY FELLAS
THIS ANON RIGHT HERE SAYS HE'S JERKED OFF TO ROUGE SINCE MIDDLE SCHOOL

>> No.15867105
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15867105

>>15866839
A G-sh...
>Would not need to be dressy at all, but I don't want a really tacky looking plastic thing, I really just don't care for the Casio look.

Okay, if you want a reliable movement, I'd say quartz is the way to go.
Casio actually makes some cheap decent analog watches (look at the MTP series), but you can also look at Citizen models.
Most of them are oversized IMO, but their eco-drive movements are maintenance-free for about two decades and the bracelets are as comfy as it gets at this price point.
Pic related is the BM7430-89L Not a beauty queen, but it has a titanium case and bracelet and a sapphire glass, it's reliable and will fit about anywhere.

>> No.15867113

>>15867090
Same but with Miles

>> No.15867122

>>15866781
Oh no

>> No.15867123

>>15866750
Seiko SARBs

>> No.15867132
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15867132

almost 2 months and my 70s? VCM arrived
had searched for this for a long time

dont have the tools to open the caseback (one of those friction casebacks that needs a rubber ball)
its a petite watch, 35mm
very pleased with the external condition,
the winding is very painful though, looks like i'd need a crown winder as recommended

>> No.15867135
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>>15867132

>> No.15867154

>>15867132
>>15867135
really dig this, tell me a bit more about it if you can/how much it set you back

>> No.15867159
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Why is this the best cleanest amphibia.

>> No.15867163

>>15867103
>>15867104
NOOOOOOO STOP SAYING IT
YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO TELL ANYONE

>> No.15867172

>>15866816
Ah yes, you must own at least a HH watch to be able to critizice the design you can see at any website.

>>15866811
Compared to the shitter world, it has endless designs. I'm not talking about finishing you can't see with the naked eye, I am talking about design you can see and anyone near you can see.

>> No.15867175

>>15867172
>Compared to the shitter world, it has endless designs. I'm not talking about finishing you can't see with the naked eye, I am talking about design you can see and anyone near you can see.
This is cope, you realize that right?

>> No.15867177

>>15867159
Because it's an accident, Amphibias are not supposed to be clean.

>>15867132
Nice! Love the red tip on the seconds hand.

>>15866970
Fuck Rolex for discontinuing it.

>> No.15867179

>>15867172
>finishing you can't see with the naked eye
What kind of finishing is that?
Because a nice movement finishing and external finishing is extremely apparent with the naked eye.

>> No.15867181

>>15867177
>A dive watch isn't supposed to be clean and legible
What

>> No.15867186

>>15867175
Not him, but if you don't like a design on screen, there is a close-to-nil chance that you will suddenly like it when you see it IRL.
You can appreciate the watch more and see why it costs what it costs, but that's another question.

>> No.15867188

>>15867181
Legible yes, clean is another problem. For example the scuba guy is the opposite of clean, yet it doesn't affect legibility.

>> No.15867189

why are rolex's so gay /wt/?

>> No.15867190

>>15867186
Good designs that aren't nicely made are auto-nope.

>> No.15867191

>>15867188
I wish that the normal blue scuba dude didn't have a date window.

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>>15867159
Komanderskie dials are where the fun is at.

>> No.15867199

>>15867179
>What kind of finishing is that?
The one you see autists ranting here and in many sites,dial finishing, hand finishing, if one side its not polished apparently that's a big deal,same with indices numerals and other small shit you can imagine, I have a shitty Casio Edifice and it shines, nothing feels wrong without a loupe.The more far away from the watch you are, the less evident the finishing is and you will only be able to appreciate the design. See the YT videos with fake-real side to side, you need to study the watchclosely to know if the watch is fake, the only fast way is looking at the movement,that's where the difference is obvious.

>> No.15867200

>>15867199
This is cope, you realize that right?

>> No.15867221

>>15867199
>I have a shitty Casio Edifice and it shines, nothing feels wrong without a loupe
What's wrong with a loupe though?

>> No.15867268

>>15866750
you think it's weird that the most common 'reddit' watch you'd actually see IRL are the Rolex Submariner and Omega Speedmaster?
I've never seen anyone IRL wearing an Alpinist of any SARB but every second rich chinese student at uni has a Rolex.

>> No.15867279

>>15867190

Well, you see how one quality won't make you like a watch in spite of the other.
For example you could give me a supremely finished Franck Muller (if such thing exists), I still wouldn't wear it.

>> No.15867288

>>15867279
We're going in circles.

The discussion was about Vacheron watches being boring.
They are not boring compared to Patek for instance, which tends to have a lot less detail on the dial side primarily.

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I have a vintage automatic mechanical watch that I love wearing but loses between 2 and 5 minutes a day, so obviously I need to have it looked at. Otherwise, the watch is in remarkably good condition for its age.

What are the basic dos and don’ts when it comes to repairing vintage watches? I know that polishing the case and restoring the dial are generally considered undesirable these days but what about servicing the movement?

Pic related isn’t my watch but is the same model.

>> No.15867294

Are there any modern GS watches that have the day of the date wheel too? It seems like it just dropped off.

>> No.15867296

>>15867189
Just because you were raped by someone wearing one doesn't make them gay.

>> No.15867300

>>15867294
Honestly this is kind of a thing across the board with higher-end watches, not just Grand Seiko. It seems like the higher up market you go the more difficult it is to find a day/date. You can find day/date dive watches under $500 all day. Shop for something above $1000 and I can only think of one.

>> No.15867316

>>15867288
Yeah, I cannot provide perspective about VC being boring, they make my favorite watches. Just saying that someone doesn't like it, just let him be. You won't educate anyone online, much less on this board.

>> No.15867322

>>15867316
I just asked compared to what Vacheron is boring.
Comparing them to "shitters" doesn't really count.

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>>15866457
>casioak
+1 to that

>> No.15867375

>>15867322
I'll play devil's advocate :
The basic Patrimony models are like a Calatrava with a less striking hand set.
Its design is quintessential, but that's also why I can see the link between it and Aliexpress shitters from afar.

The Overseas doesn't have a textured dial, which could feel lazy compared to the other simiar watches on the market. (I think the bezel is already busy enough, but hey.)
And it looks like many elements are superimposed over other elements, unlike the Nautilus or the APRO.

The FiftySix nails it (could use more lume), but the general theme is assumedly extremely classic.

>> No.15867380

>>15867159
710 case or 420 case?

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>>15866457
>>15867366
Yes the Casioak is based.

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>>15867366
This one in particular it super legible and versatile.

>>15866445
I would also recommend MTGs if you have some money to spend.

>> No.15867386

>>15867375
The 56 is like the Corvette of watches. You can’t beat the value for what it is, but when you’re concerned about value within that particular class of goods maybe you should rethink your buying priorities?

>> No.15867391

>>15867386
>but when you’re concerned about value within that particular class of goods maybe you should rethink your buying priorities?
That's ridiculous. When you're spending huge amounts of money on something frivolous, you should in fact be even more critical of value.

>> No.15867392

>>15867375
The cheaper FiftySix models don't use Vacheron movements.

>> No.15867393

>>15867375
>I can see the link between it and Aliexpress shitters from afar
Just like you can tell the link between solid gold and gold plated from afar.

Peak midwit thinking right here.

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>>15867375
>The basic Patrimony models are like a Calatrava with a less striking hand set.
What?
See pic.

>The Overseas doesn't have a textured dial, which could feel lazy compared to the other simiar watches on the market.
The blue dial Overseas uses the same dial-making process as the FP Journe chronomètre bleu.
The black-dial Overseas has the wettest, deepest looking black lacquer you'll ever see.
Wanna talk lazy, consider that the Nautilus dial pattern is stamped.

>And it looks like many elements are superimposed over other elements
You're reaching.

>The FiftySix nails it
To each his own.
It's one of my least favorite designs they do.

>> No.15867407

>>15867384
Yeah I didn't fancy the complete black "stealth" one, it looks like a pain in the ass to read.
How is the MTG? It looks way thicker than the GA-2100s.

>> No.15867409

>>15866970
>buying the absolute cheapest model you can just to say you own a Rolex
Lmao. Rainbow Daytona or bust, faggot.

>> No.15867416

>>15867391
Let me extend the car analogy. Patek and AP are the Rolls Royce and Bentley of watchmakers. It doesn't make sense to cross-shop a Corvette with a Rolls Royce or Bentley.

>> No.15867419

>>15866970
Is that the 39? I would have gone with a 34 or 36.

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>>15867384
why would you want to receive emails and fax on your watch?

>> No.15867428

>>15867391
Why would Rolex be the most popular watchmaker in the world if 0.1%ers actually considered value when purchasing a high-end watch?

>> No.15867429

>>15867428
Because people are idiots, but that doesn't mean that everyone with money has to be a retard.

>> No.15867431

>>15867404
>What?
>See pic.

This is a traditionelle, Anon. it's about 30k€. I'm not calling it a basic Patrimony.

Agree about the Overseas, but you'll admit that it's not as in-your-face as other popular models. It's a good thing to me, but don't blame me if other people don't care.

>> No.15867434

>>15867407
Yeah, it is thicker, about 14.5mm for this model.
Wanted to mention it because it's weirdly versatile too, IMO.

>> No.15867437

>>15867431
>This is a traditionelle, Anon. it's about 30k€
Just the platinum one.
The white gold version is about $20k

>> No.15867438

>>15867375
>The Overseas doesn't have a textured dial, which could feel lazy compared to the other simiar watches on the market.
This is so cringe. People jizz themselves over the lacquered dials.

>> No.15867439

>>15867409
>the absolute cheapest model
That was before it was discontinued.

>> No.15867442

>>15867434
Yeah quite bigger, was looking for an alternative to the casioak for a true beater that I wouldn't mind scratching to pieces, might just have to wait for another production run of the grey ones since I'm not going to pay fucking twice the original price lmfao.

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>>15867154
Meihualu was the main brand of the now defunct Jilin Watch Factory, one of the "Original 8" watch factories set up in 1958 communist china (the other factories include Shanghai, Beijing, and Tianjin--aka Seagull)

this particular Meihualu is a play on words. Meihualu translated word for word is "plum blossom deer" (Sika Deer, a deer species in eastern asia), hence the subtle plum blossom texture embossing on the dial.
It is also one of the few pictorial textured dial for VCMs, usually these old chinese watches are quite plain.

movement inside is (likely-ive not opened it yet) the ubiquitous Tongji (unified) movement, a consolidated, simple 17-jewel standardised movement out of all the early chinese movements

>how much it set you back
the seller wanted 1600RMB/$250 for it, which is many times higher than what VCMs normally go for. Normal ones sold domestically on chinese apps only cost $10-$50
I also had to pay a taobao agent as he did not want to ship out of the country.
Would likely need a service/clean/lube also.

its not that much money, but the process of actually finding it and communication was extremely demanding. This was the only example I found. There is another anon who also has one here.
From what Ive read on WUS, the golden age of collecting VCMs is over, most have long been snapped up by western collectors years ago due to the low pricing.

>> No.15867454

>>15864790
To those who have mechanical chronographs: how often do you actually use your watch to time things? How long in duration do these things tend to be? Do you ever time anything that lasts more than one hour?

>> No.15867455

>>15867442
You may wait for a long time, the grey model has been discontinued this month.
I'm pretty sure that they will release a ton of other variants this year, though.

>> No.15867456

>>15867455
Well shit. Yeah I'm hoping that this is going to turn into one of their new core products, they've certainly sold a ton of them. Any news on the new variants?

>> No.15867457

>>15867454
The only time I use a chronograph function is while cooking. Hurray for sports and adventure.
Could also be useful when I workout, but there is no way that I'm wearing a watch when using my kettlebells.

>> No.15867459

>>15867457
I use my watch's dive bezel occasionally for timing short things like cooking times. Basically I'm wondering if my eyes just aren't open to day-to-day things that I could time using a chronograph or if, functionally, my dive watch suits me fine

>> No.15867460

>>15867459
Do you really need your day-to-day things timed down to the precision of a chronograph? That just sounds like it's going to cause you more strain than anything else.

>> No.15867465

>>15867456
From today : smaller models should be released in march.
https://www.g-central.com/g-shock-gma-s2100-mini-casioak-series/

It must cheap to produce, so I expect it to be the new GA-110 in terms of variants.

>> No.15867469

>>15867465
Sweet, I take it if they're starting a smaller range of different colours then it's a good indicator of future versions in regular size too. Maybe even a metal variant!

>> No.15867471

thoughts on 5 digit subs?

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Please, talk me out of wanting this

>> No.15867475

>>15867474
> cyclops
kek

>> No.15867476

>>15867471
I like the look, but they are heavily overpriced now

>> No.15867480

>>15867465
fuck me
i just bought the normal casioak
would have possibly waited for these as im a wristlet

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>>15866611

i just bought 1 eth which means you’re officially my crypto accountant and financial advisor you fuck.

if i lose my money i WILL find you and break your legs.

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My daily driver is silver colored,
but ever so often I like to wear gold.

>> No.15867484

>>15867475
it can be removed easily

>> No.15867485

>>15867474
>JUST

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>>15867465
http://blog.livedoor.jp/gshockjp/20210114#more
>(new)Casio Oak size is 42 mm in diameter, which is one size smaller than the existing Casio Oak(48.5 mm diameter).
>It seems to be a new model that seems to fit the arms of children and women in terms of size.

>to fit the arms of children and women in terms of size.

why must japanese be so brutal with words?

>> No.15867487

>>15867474
This wears smell on your wrist, and I don't often say it.
Silver dials have all the blandness of white dials without their cleanliness. Meh.

>> No.15867490

>>15867484
I'd rather not have to do finishing work on something that costs that much.
>>15867486
Based nips at it again.

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>>15867484
But it would look terrible with neither the cyclops nor a framed date.

>> No.15867503

>>15867498
that just looks scuffed

>> No.15867507

>>15867498
If you moved the date wheel 2mm over it would be fine

>> No.15867509

>>15867486
>>15867465
Also a note on this subject, the retailer that is talking about the new variants says "Available in 6 weeks" on the S variants but also on the currently out of stock regular 2100s. New production run releasing in 6 weeks as well possibly?

>> No.15867510

>>15867498
How long till Rolex totally tanks at their new "exclusivity" business model?

>> No.15867517

>>15866879
>>15866906
Knuckles would wear an Invicta

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Hmm I wonder who buys high end watches these days.

>> No.15867520

>>15867519
Are they making a pangolin version?

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Lusting over Sinn again.

>> No.15867522

>>15867520
There is no pangolin in the zodiac so no

>> No.15867523
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>>15867519
>porky
its the year of the bull this year.

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The cheapest watches are the easiest the read, most comfortable but least desirable. Explain this.
I love/hate my cheap beaters

>> No.15867526

>>15867510
Not for a long while, the asian upper-middle class is huge and showoffy as hell.
Just get over it and find other brands/models.

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>>15867523
>>15867519
>VC doesnt make ugl-

>> No.15867528

>>15867524
Simplicity. No fucking month, moon phase, sunset, GMT or whatever indicators taking up space.

>> No.15867529

>>15867474
I can’t, I want it too, but would probably end up with the fluted bezel, everything else the same.

>> No.15867530

>>15867519
whats high end about this kitsch?

>> No.15867531

>>15867475
The cyclops is a great feature you pleb.

>> No.15867533

>>15867523
So? Isn't your zodiac animal based off your birthday month? That's what the placemats at the chinese restaurant taught me anyway. So wouldn't you buy your zodiac sign?
>>15867530
It's for chinese who lack taste and love gaudy shit.

>> No.15867536

>>15867102
kek

>> No.15867537

>>15867531
It looks like a tumour and you're also one for liking it.

>> No.15867538

>>15867527
These were made to the client's requirements.

>> No.15867539

>>15866839
Citizen bro. Solar quartz is durable and maintenance free. If you dont care about the movement avoid mechanical watches

>> No.15867540

>>15867527
>>15867523
>>15867519
Is this a joke? The fuck? Are ching chongs really the target market for nice watches these days?

>> No.15867541

>>15867533
It's based off the year in which you were born, but you also get assigned an animal by the month which is like your secret animal and depending on the specific year you also get an element like wood or iron

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>>15867540
Yes, China has more millionaires than pretty much any country.

>> No.15867543

>>15867540
Yes.
Chinese love Invicta-tier shit because they are all about flexing and they spend mad money on watches because they are propped up by free government cash and often use expensive purchases for money laundering

>> No.15867544

>>15867527
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.15867546

>>15867523
Ah that must be why the markets are so good.

>> No.15867554

>>15867533
>Not buying one of each zodiac sign for your collection

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>>15867483

>> No.15867558

>>15867542
this confirms VC as a tastelet brand.

>> No.15867559

>>15867554
I wonder how many Jack Ma had before they disappeared him to the re-education center.

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>>15867530
this VC series is actually the nicest luxury zodiac one, many other luxury brands do it as well. This VC one puts the animal front and centre without hands to ruin it.

>>15867533
>birthday month
no, year. chinese zodiac is by lunar year.

>>15867530
the animal is solid gold/platinum
the dial is etched and enameled
the movement is obviously some special inhouse thing

>> No.15867563

>>15867519
>>15867523
I am a new money Chinese PIGgy that indulges in frivolous BULL shit and this is my watch collection!

>> No.15867565

>>15867540
china is by far the biggest high end watch market
hongkong alone is almost the same volume as the entire US

>> No.15867566

>>15867560
So we all need some tiger bones and dillo dust to go with our $100k zodiac watches?

>> No.15867569

>>15867558
If you judge based on cherrypicked models, any high-end brand is for tastelets.

>> No.15867571
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Reminder that this is the kind of stuff Chinese big ballers buy
The ornamentation is made of bones carved by artisan monks. Dozens of bulls were killed just to make this.

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>>15867563
stop MONKEYing around

>> No.15867574

>>15867474
If I were getting a Datejust I would probably go for the fluted bezel and jubilee bracelet.

Also I would consider the Omega Globemaster. It’s a really cool, advanced watch and is less common than the Datejust.

>> No.15867577

>>15867571
Get ready to see them driving around america with china joe as president

>> No.15867579

>>15867571
Even ignoring the animal waste this just looks fucking disgusting. Never seen a better example of the fact that money can't buy class.

>> No.15867581

>>15867498
The fact that the cyclops can be taken off bugs me. You would think at this stage Rolex would have figured out by now a way to mould it into a single sapphire crystal

>> No.15867582

>>15867527
ITS PAST MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON

>> No.15867583
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>>15867579
You could never understand, wide-eyed gweilo

>> No.15867584

>>15867577
They already are in Canada and the chinks own tons of property in the states. War soon.

>> No.15867585

>>15867583
christ it gets worse

>> No.15867586

>>15867571
>Dozens of bulls
more like thousands

>A BMW Z4 was used as the base of the ultra-premium dragon car before it was merchandised with the carved yak bones and gold sheeting.
>In total, 30,000 yak leg bones were used. They were individually carved and polished before being assembled together to form the shape of a dragon.
>Given the shape of the car's body and final contour, highly technical carving techniques had to be used.
>Several thousand scales mounted onto the 'dragon' were carved with Diamond Sutra, one of the earliest known Buddhist scriptures.
>There were also 999 small dragon patterns etched onto various parts of the car, including on its bonnet, wing mirrors and even the exhaust pipe.
>Additional decoration was created with 1,999 pieces of solid gold sheeting - even the wheels are made from gold.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/peoplesdaily/article-3224996/Riding-dragon-Chinese-company-builds-ridiculously-lavish-car-inspired-mystical-creature-using-30-000-yak-bones-1-999-pieces-solid-gold.html

>> No.15867591

>>15867574
>the Omega Globemaster. It’s a really cool, advanced watch and is less common than the Datejust.
Yes, but it is also ugly as sin.

>> No.15867596

>>15867595
>>15867595
>>15867595
>>15867595

>> No.15867611

>>15867560
>this VC series is actually the nicest luxury zodiac one, many other luxury brands do it as well. This VC one puts the animal front and centre without hands to ruin it.
oh deer god

>> No.15867621

>>15865508
handset needs to be thiccer

>> No.15867690

>>15867521
That bezel is so hawt and I dont know why

>> No.15867843

>>15865861
>>Name literally means bread
And, in my language, Timex sounds like a portmanteau of "Timo" (Scam) and "Rolex"
Just thought it was funny

>> No.15867971

>>15866697
Too many Seiko's, not enough Vostoks, one too many Casio, could be more original

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>>15867474

>not getting the jubilee bracelet
>not getting the fluted bezel
>not getting the clean white dial

>> No.15868233

>>15868027
>Too blingy
>costs 2K more

>> No.15868306

>>15868233

Fair critiques.

>> No.15868494

>>15868306
Looks like some girly princess shit a flamboyant effay boi would wear

>> No.15868649

>>15868494
Fluted+jubilee is always worn by fat swarthy boomers, I like it though and you have shit taste desu

>> No.15868748

>>15866750
Disagree about the rolex sub. Its a super common watch but I don't see it a ton on reddit.

Agree about the alpinist and speedy. The circlejerking over these ones is annoying af/

Reddit tier includes:

- Tudor Black Bay
- Any nomos
- Seiko SKX
- Seamaster 300
- Orient Bambino
- Grand Seiko, especially the snowflake ("Why buy a rolex when you can get a grand seiko?!?")
- longines heritage
- any oris

>> No.15868802
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Only a Rolex is good enough

>> No.15868809
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>>15868649
Someone's butt hurt about their faggot watch I'm rofling in my roflcopter

>> No.15868853

>>15867524
Best watch in thread

>> No.15868885
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15868885

Someone earlier mentioned MLM or something business model rolex does. Can someone TLDR me wtf that is?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Watches/comments/kvo9z2/tag_heuer_rolex_refused_to_sell_me_their_explorer/

>> No.15868919
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>>15868809
this is beautiful

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