Trad/Ivy/Prep Thread

[Anonymous No.15813209]

FORUMS:
http://www.forums.filmnoirbuff.com/https://askandyaboutclothes.com/viewforum.php?id=13
https://www.styleforum.net/forums/classic-menswear.5/
forum/
https://www.reddit.com/r/NavyBlazer/
http://thecurriculum.net/forum/

BLOGS:

American:
http://www.ivy-style.com/
https://oxfordclothbuttondown.com
https://www.saltwaternewengland.com/
http://www.dressdecoded.com/
http://sartorialtalks.com/en/
http://www.fivepointfox.com/

European:
http://thelandlessgentry.blogspot.com/
http://tweedlandthegentlemansclub.blogspot.com/
https://bespokeunit.com/
http://www.manolo.se/
http://claseleganciaydistincion.blogspot.com/

Not being updated anymore:
http://www.mreero.com/
http://anaffordablewardrobe.blogspot.com/
http://alexandergrant.blogspot.com/
https://inner-city-style.blogspot.com/
http://thetrad.blogspot.com/
http://maxminimus.blogspot.com/
http://theivyleaguelook.blogspot.com/

READS/BOOKS/ALBUMS:

https://pastebin.com/JUHD4Hwu
https://pastebin.com/SMMg3tK9
Quick guide to prep: https://www.mreero.com/journal/how-to-dress-like-a-prep
Gentleman's Gazzete info on /TIP/: https://pastebin.com/QrNDDG60
The Preppy Handbook: https://issuu.com/fiyero109/docs/toph
Nautical clothing guide: https://epochs.co/features/epochs-guide-to-nautical-clothing?p=nauticalpost
Boat shoe lacing guide: https://blog.sperry.com/stories/style/lacing-guide/
Waxing Barbours: https://www.saltwaternewengland.com/2019/09/waxing-barbour.html
80s Inspo compilation: http://www.ivy-style.com/heres-to-a-preptastic-year-the-1982-prep-for-all-seasons-calendar.html
Inspo albums: https://imgur.com/a/SRKjs, https://imgur.com/a/eEw6B and https://imgur.com/a/XZuwA

Where to find clothing:
Spier and Mackey
Polo Ralph Lauren
Alden
Mr Porter
Brooks brothers
J press
O’Connells
InverAllen
Jamiesons Shetland
Barbour
Sperry
LL Bean
Nautica
Orvis
Rancourt
Eastland Shoe
Quoddy
Russell moccasin co
Oak Street Bootmakers
Yuketen
Bill's Khakis

Previous Thread:
>>15787867

[Anonymous No.15813211]

>>15813209
Instagrams

Prep:

https://www.instagram.com/kjp/
https://www.instagram.com/alexstourbe/

https://www.instagram.com/muffyaldrich
https://www.instagram.com/dixielandtrad/
https://www.instagram.com/thepreppytexan/
https://www.instagram.com/sweatbrah/
https://www.instagram.com/josephcrabb/
https://www.instagram.com/wmbrownproject/
https://www.instagram.com/thepreppyguy/
https://www.instagram.com/pjhavel/
https://www.instagram.com/hardinglane/
https://www.instagram.com/seangaleburke/
https://www.instagram.com/thepreppynewenglander/
https://www.instagram.com/howieguja/
https://www.instagram.com/_______jung/
https://www.instagram.com/kazuyahiramatsu/
https://www.instagram.com/sophieschumacher0/
https://www.instagram.com/carly/
https://www.instagram.com/abbycapalbo/
https://www.instagram.com/julia.harpe/
https://www.instagram.com/jackiegreaney/
https://www.instagram.com/kileyskeff/

Trad:

https://www.instagram.com/acutestyle/
https://www.instagram.com/tintinfellow/
https://www.instagram.com/andreasweinas/
https://www.instagram.com/thelandlessgentry/
https://www.instagram.com/dave_money3/
https://www.instagram.com/kleidsam/
https://www.instagram.com/parisian_gentleman/
https://www.instagram.com/oskarsalomonsson/
https://www.instagram.com/nortonofmorton/
https://www.instagram.com/the_mulberry_tree_lifestyle/
https://www.instagram.com/eleanoraudet/
https://www.instagram.com/sonyaglyn/

Ivy:

https://www.instagram.com/benton.down/
https://www.instagram.com/oxfordclothbuttondown/
https://www.instagram.com/arnoldsteiner/
https://www.instagram.com/tko3r/
https://www.instagram.com/jcl.84/
https://www.instagram.com/took_ivy/
https://www.instagram.com/dick.carroll/
https://www.instagram.com/gezzaseyes/
https://www.instagram.com/georgewbush/
https://www.instagram.com/sartorialchap/
https://www.instagram.com/psy3927/

[Anonymous No.15813263]

>>15813108
>A blazer doesn’t have to have contrasting buttons, not all club blazers have crests. Plenty of blazers with horn buttons out there.
Do you know anything about blazers? Holy shit, yes, navy blazers need to have contrasting buttons to differentiate them from suit jackets and to make them more casual, how the fuck do you not know this? It's quite baffling that you're still trying to say otherwise. A club blazer that is in navy always has a crest, maybe along with piping but if it is a club's navy blazer, they will always have a crest to show off their club, how else would you know what club they belong to? It's genuinely perplexing that you pride yourself in your "knowledge" of construction yet you don't understand simple terms.
>In any case, Polo may not be what it was, however it will always be superior to the imitators
You called Brooks brothers an imitator ahahaha
But nah, Polo today can bring out trash, whether you accept that or
not.
>No amount of canvassing will save a garment with twisted grain blah blah blah
No fucking shit, that doesn't mitigate the role of a canvas that isn't fused garbage.
>Gorge heights, pockets and lapel widths are subjective. POLO styling is modern now. It’s not entirely to my taste, but it’s about the bigger picture
For most here, it simply won't work, even you admit that you don't like the look! I would also just like to add that these are trends and will be gone very soon at this point.
>If you want real fine details, you will have to pay a tailor after the fact to remove the old stitches and add new ones
You don't ask for some tailor to give you new button holes, I mean that is probably the most retarded reason to go to a tailor. How a button hole is made can very clearly tell you how the entire jacket is made. If it's machine sewn but in the worse method (there's two) expect it to be trash.
>POLO hits every notch at the right level.
Piss right off mate, you cannot be serious.

[Anonymous No.15813278]

>>15813108
>but it doesn’t matter because a garment is not just the canvas, the pocket, the gorge, or the cloth. It is all of those things together.
Can we have a round of applause for this truly beautiful statement right here! Okay but you do realise that shit added onto shit is just shit, right? It's quite funny how you failed to even attempt in telling me what modern polo does that is actually good for its price which makes the look, other than saying stuff about the pattern work and pattern matching which is pretty fucking easy to do as others can do it too.
Since your grammar is subpar, I'm starting to think that you're some Indian who bought a lot of polo junk all at once for a lotta money and now hearing how bad it really is, getting all defensive about it to justify those purchases. Like seriously, how could you be so defensive about a brand which has clearly fallen from grace?

[Anonymous No.15813325]

Does anyone have any recommendations for where I can find quality green herringbone pants that don't have a fishtail back?

[Anonymous No.15813507]

Lets pray those two dudes with the shoulders too big don't shit up the thread with bad fits and bickering again.

[Anonymous No.15813534]

>>15813507
You're a dumb piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.15813538]

>>15813534
kek shoulderlet spotted

[Anonymous No.15813544]

>>15813538
You're still not very bright

[Anonymous No.15813555]

>>15813544
just SHRUG it off

[Anonymous No.15813580]

>>15813209
got any good examples of green sweaters? im trying real hard to nail down what i want in a sweater and ive yet to figure out green without velvet.

[Anonymous No.15813597]

>>15813580
>green sweaters
May I speak with Tay.io please?

[Anonymous No.15813701]

>>15813209
I bet all those guys in that pic are latent homoshrekuals

[Anonymous No.15813810]

>>15813701
More for me

[OP No.15813833]

New thread rule: all pics must be green

[Anonymous No.15813844]

>>15813833
Great thread so far, faggot

[Anonymous No.15813849]

>>15813597
wat

[Anonymous No.15813854]

>>15813580
Mate, you mean waistcoat. If you do, a green waistcoat could easily be found in tweed but I would rather go with the velvet ones.

[Anonymous No.15813874]

>>15813854
no i mean sweaters, but im toying with going with a green velvet waistcoat to scratch that itch

[Anonymous No.15813903]

>>15813833
Greenpilled

[Anonymous No.15813906]

>>15813903
Too bad the fit is shit

[Anonymous No.15813960]

>>15813906
it’s actually not

[Anonymous No.15813981]

>>15813960
Yes it is, take a look at the jumper and how it fits.

[Anonymous No.15813986]

>>15813903
is this a pregnant women?

[Anonymous No.15814021]

>>15813981
it’s fine

[Anonymous No.15814054]

>>15814021
No it's not hahahahahaha

[Anonymous No.15814277]

>>15813209
This might be the most embarrassing OP yet.
Up there with green sweater sunglasses guy on the boat.

[Anonymous No.15814278]

>>15814277
Does it really matter?

[Anonymous No.15814326]

I got bored and put together a trad/ivy/prep diagram. Of course none of those terms are fixed, but I thought it might be a fun exercise to kill time (I like categories).

[Anonymous No.15814478]

>>15814278
yes

[Anonymous No.15814548]

>>15814326
>american

[Anonymous No.15814550]

>>15814054
nah it’s fine

[Anonymous No.15814600]

>>15813507
This
>>15814277
Aww sad merry Christmas any way to you

[Anonymous No.15815190]

>>15814550
I mean, could you attempt to say why or are you just going to continue embarrassing yourself?

[Anonymous No.15815222]

Does aero clothing make trousers which are of good quality?
Merry Christmas.

[Anonymous No.15815443]

>>15815190
no u

[Anonymous No.15815466]

>>15815443
>Le epic r/3ddit reply
Kill your self

[Anonymous No.15815503]

>>15815466
I’m not going to say anything hateful to you on this day. Merry Christmas anon

[Anonymous No.15815640]

>>15813263
>still seething
>still wrong
Lol. A blazer does not need to have contrasting buttons to be considered a blazer. It’s a blazer/sport coat when it doesn’t match the trousers, thus indicating that is not part of a suit.
>t. Oxford Dictionary
A club blazer can be shown by the markings on the buttons. It is not a requirement to have a crest or binding for it to be a club blazer.

Yes, brooks along with Hackett, Gant, GAP, and more are imitators. Ralph is still an imitator as well. An imitator of, originally, classic English style found in bespoke tailoring.
>fuse is automatically garbage because it’s fuse
Pleb view. Fuse has a role. I say this as an actual maker of garments. Canvas is not as important as people would like to believe. The pattern will always reign supreme in the appearance, fit, drape, and hang of a garment.
>polo is trash
cool opinion. Anything objective?
>for most it won’t work
According to who? You? How do you know? You don’t know everyone here, you only know yourself. How would a classic menswear brand not work? It’s one of the largest brands on the face of the earth, so it clearly works for most of humanity. As far as styling goes, I prefer a longer jacket because of my time in actual English bespoke. On the other hand, French houses such as Cifonelli have a completely different style to English bespoke. Style doesn’t indicate quality.
>you don’t pay a tailor to add details
full retard. Are you a tailor? I’ve had various clients approach me and my colleagues to remove machine details and add hand details instead. Literally happens all the time. I have a friend that gets his from Suitsupply MTM without buttonholes and edge stitching and then takes them to a bespoke tailor for edge stitching and hand buttonholes. He pays good money for it too, as he should. Clearly you don’t know anything about tailoring, but reading your seethe is hilarious.
Also, machine buttonholes can be quite nice. Stay wrong.
>t. Bespoke tailor

[Anonymous No.15815686]

>>15813903
Men in Dubarry boots always look silly. You need to literally be sat on a horse and if that's your game you wear proper riding boots.

[Anonymous No.15815783]

>>15815640
polo ralph lauren is garbage, simply as

[Anonymous No.15815799]

>>15815640
This really isn't worth replying to at this point.
>A blazer does not need to have contrasting buttons to be considered a blazer.
A navy one does, which is what we were discussing from the very beginning.
>It is not a requirement to have a crest or binding for it to be a club blazer.
If it is in navy, it definitely does.
>Fuse has a role
Fuse has no fucking role other than over-heating you once you enter a building with heating. There is no craftsmanship put into a fused canvas, it is mass produced because of how cost effective it is and this will usually be indicative of the garnments quality most of the time.
>The pattern will always reign supreme in the appearance, fit, drape, and hang of a garment.
Well then that's too bad considering most of modern Polo trash is slim fit.
>How would a classic menswear brand not work?
Because of the things they sell nowadays? We're talking about the people who frequent this thread, who I assume want to get a classic look. I'm not talking about the majority of people, I'm talking about someone who is interested in /tip/, so you applying the average person into this is really fucking stupid but I've come to expect that from you.
>Suitsupply MTM without buttonholes
Yes, mate, that's good and all but we're not talking suitsupply where you can have no button holes, we're talking about about Polo! Not made to measure so unless you go straight to the factory in China, you're gonna get machine made button holes, you blubbering fool! And again, button hole quality is a good indicator of the general quality!
>t. Bespoke tailor
Oh I'm sure you are, yeah, just keep on repeating that you are a "bespoke tailor" and everyone will believe you. If you are, let's be real fucking honest here, you're probably not that good. Maybe instead lf posting your hilarious reaction pic, show us some of your work. Modern Polo is trash but keep on coping that it's not, it's absolutely amusing and makes my day even better!

[Anonymous No.15816193]

>>15815799
>not worth replying to
>writes an article in response
Seethe harder. You’re deliberately leaving out a great deal of context in my response. My point about suit supply MTM is to illustrate the fact that you’re wrong about suggesting that nobody brings a garment to a tailor to add handmade details. As I said, I’ve done it multiple times, as have many colleagues.
>seething about fuse as if it is indicative of quality
You’d be surprised at how much fuse is used in bespoke. The fact that you believe it to be indicative of a low quality garment displays your lack of knowledge on the topic of construction. If you open up a bespoke jacket, supposedly the finest option available, you’ll find fuse everywhere.
>fuse
>overheating
Lol. You really don’t know shit about construction at all. If overheating is an issue, it’s because your jacket fully lined and the exterior cloth is likely not suitable for the season. Canvas is far heavier than the majority of interfacing used on the foreparts of RTW garments. A traditional canvas also has a layer of pocketing in the lapels, and domette + horsehair over the chest, adding even more thickness and heat retention so.... you’ve also got the extremely heavy wadding in the sleevehead and shoulder pads.
>polo is slim fit
>hurrr slim fit bad
According to themselves. In actual fact, it fits as most RTW should fit OTR: boxy. There’s also nothing wrong with something being slim fit. For instance, a bespoke garment is slim fit in the truest sense as it fits the wearer exactly. I suppose that makes it trash?
>u r not bespoke tailor
Cope. You clearly have 0 knowledge of construction.

Pic related. Some canvas, a pocket bag that’s been backstitched into the canvas, and some apparently worthless fuse that has been cross stitched into the canvas providing support for the jetted pockets and preventing the cloth from fraying when cutting the mitres. Dilate. POLO will always be king of RTW Prep style.

[Anonymous No.15816204]

GDDAMN MOTHERFUCKERS

[Anonymous No.15816223]

>>15815799
One more to cement your butthurt.
>striking out and mark stitching a DB on some corduroy
One day, you may.

[Anonymous No.15816230]

>>15816223
Modern Polo is garbage nonetheless

[Anonymous No.15816243]

>>15816193
>you’re wrong about suggesting that nobody brings a garment to a tailor to add handmade details.
Which I stand corrected on, however, you at the very beginning said that you can take out the old details and add new ones, you can read your post from the other thread.
And I would just like to say, we are talking about polo, which isn't bespoke so stop applying the same shit onto it. When a of the rack piece is fused, it nearly always is of lower quality.
Modern Polo is garbage for its price.

[Anonymous No.15816269]

>>15816243
Yes, I did say that. It’s because we do it all the time. A friend of mine gets multiple garments per day, cuts off the machine buttonholes, unpicks the machine edge stitching, and then redoes it all by hand. It’s very common.
>otr and fuse = low quality
But it’s not true. Fuse is just cotton or polyester with glue applied to the wrong side. It is then fixed to a garment in a large industrial heat press. Fuse only indicates that fuse is present, not that quality is low. I also don’t think I ever advocating for paying RRP for Polo, in fact I highlighted purchasing RLPL for £35 on eBay, alluding to this being the correct option. I’ve only ever purchased directly from the RL store on Bond Street during invite only sample sales. Otherwise, it’s eBay 24/7.

>a fully lined front and sidebody
A lot of fuse in there. Fuse in each jet, fuse in each interior flap, fuse behind each pocket stand, fuse down the entire front edge, fuse along the shoulder, armhole, hem, fuse along the underwent and on the canvas to strengthen the exterior pocket.

[Anonymous No.15816426]

>>15816269
Oi, TailorAnon, how should one go about learning, starting to cut/construct/sew one's own clothing?

[Anonymous No.15816609]

Fantastic collar roll on Macaulay’s shirt here. W2C?

[Anonymous No.15816613]

https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2020/dec/25/barbour-jacket-tv-the-crown

Normie wanna bes are coming for Barbour

Sad

[Anonymous No.15816713]

>>15816426
+1

[Anonymous No.15816784]

[Anonymous No.15816786]

>>15815640
SuitSupply all comes with buttonholes. Stop lying

[Anonymous No.15816799]

>>15814326
very nice

[Anonymous No.15816805]

Post fresh inspo . People who seethe that it’s always the same pics posted why don’t you go and find new inspo yourself and post it cheers

[Anonymous No.15816808]

[Anonymous No.15816826]

How do you prevent leather loafers and boots from staining socks brown? I've heard to spray the inside full of hairspray before wearing, but I could see that becoming a pain after a while.

[Anonymous No.15816832]

I love this style, but when I imagine my poor ass wearing it feels cringe

[Anonymous No.15816846]

serious question. i live in Russia and i dont quite understand, why do people want to wear TIP? whats the idea in dressing like this if you aren't actually upper class or an ivy league student? especially if you're not in US?
obviously, one reason might be to emulate this higher class academia fashion. but then it's just larping. one may then refute that you don't have to be a worker to wear workwear, a punk to wear a leather jacket, etc, that it's just the spirit and an aesthetic. but then, what's the point? to look smarter than you are, like with thick rimmed glasses? this is very pretentious too.

[Anonymous No.15816855]

>>15816846
The point is just to look dressed up and nice but in a casual and careless way. You don’t need to be an WASP to want to do that

[Anonymous No.15816870]

>>15816855
so is it kind of like American version of sprezzatura then?

[Anonymous No.15816906]

[Anonymous No.15816909]

>>15816826
No don’t spray hairspray in your shoe. If it’s a leather lined and it’s veggie tanned for instance your gonna get that issue

[Anonymous No.15816912]

>>15816832
Try thrifting and see if you like how it feels
>>15816846
Bait

[Anonymous No.15816939]

>>15816870
>>15816870
Sure. Probably b8, but its supremely comfortable to dress TIPish, and the nature of TIP clothing lends itself to looking nice and a cut above other styles even with casual fabrics and cuts, which makes the wearer instantly look better dressed/ more stylish/etc. than the average man wearing trainers and sweats when out and about. Money, background, and class don't factor into it at all, at least for me; Its comfy and looks look, which makes me feel relaxed and casual, which comes off as self-assured, secure, and confident, at least from what I've gathered from people that I've talked to that have asked me to help them learn to improve their sense of dress and style.

[Anonymous No.15816945]

New Inspo

[Anonymous No.15816946]

>>15816945

[Anonymous No.15816949]

>>15816946

[Anonymous No.15816952]

>>15816949

[Anonymous No.15816978]

Are v neck sweaters cringe without exception?

[Anonymous No.15817013]

>>15816939
ok, i guess i can see what you mean. thanks
>>15816912
you cant even make a remotely controversial question on 4chan now without people accusing you of baiting
you americans have weird obsession with both finding bait and baiting others

[Anonymous No.15817053]

>>15817013
Merry Christmas

[Anonymous No.15817136]

>>15816909
Why not? Hairspray is a nice color seal. Regardless, there must be a way to prevent color bleed. I know people who wear knit wool socks aren't replacing them every other wear due to staining.

[Anonymous No.15817217]

>>15816786

this is true and utterly destroys anon’s ludicrous tailor larp

[Anonymous No.15817231]

[Anonymous No.15817237]

>>15816426
>>15816713
Good question, but mega oooooof. It was hard as shit to get into this. You don’t need to go balls to the walls at the beginning. Tailoring is all about your hand and machine skills. You can develop this through simple hand sewing technique practice and machine drills such as straight lines to a specific seam allowance. The main thing you want to forget about is being able to actually make anything for at least a month. You could probably do trousers as the overall handwork is minimal, but a jacket will take awhile. Cutting/Drafting a pattern can be learned very quickly.

Good books:
Metric Pattern Cutting for Menswear by W. Aldrich
Classic Tailoring Techniques by Roberto Cabrera

These books will never be enough. You need hands on experience and to go through the experience of your own retard moments where you completely fuck up a whole garment by not paying attention. I’m currently working on rewriting all of my tailoring notebooks to produce a book that teaches the Savile Row style of bespoke tailoring in a more complete sense. Shit’s gonna take forever though.

Starting gear should include:

cheap navy blue wool, probably 10 metres for sampling.
Tailoring thimble (worn on your middle finger
Tailoring shears (only used on cloth)
Pattern shears (only used on paper/card)
3/9 Betweens Quilting Hand Sewing Needles
Tailoring Chalk (Hancock is good, Japanese stuff is better but hard to get)
Aluminium Ruler 30cm/12inch with Imperial and Metric measures
Metre ruler
Leather Hole Punch
Gunshot Basting Thread
Polyester Machine Thread
Tailoring gimp
Silk Buttonhole thread
Pattern Master(most important ruler)
Pins
Pin cushion
Super glue
Mechanical pencil
pen
Heavy fuse

Unfortunately there is so much goddamn shit to explain that it’s impossible to write it up, but those things that I listed will allow you to do a large part of the sampling and full tailoring work, assuming you already have a machine and overlocker.

>jacket needs lining

[Anonymous No.15817239]

>>15816786

this is true and utterly destroys anon’s ludicrous tailor larp

[Anonymous No.15817255]

>>15817237
Most important advice I can give anyone is probably to not get frustrated with it. If you’re frustrated and hand seeing, you’ll fuck up whatever you’re making, the same is true if you get frustrated trying to get a foot in the door within the industry. There’s a lot of people, due to Instagram, that wanna be bespoke tailors. Unfortunately, many of them are richfags, so they can work for free. Thing is, if you practice the techniques in those books and keep a record of your samples, you could make it, but don’t expect any pay or at least any decent pay.

Once you make it, you can expect around 600/jacket. Maybe £150-250 for trousers. You’ll make more money doing trousers than jackets, but there is no artistry in trousers and it is overall boring as shit. This is probably why all trousermakers that I know are complete degenerates.

All the work is freelance, you get no sick pay, no guarantees, no set working hours, etc. It’s good if you want to have children though as you can work from home and always be there.

A skilled tailor can make a jacket in 3-5 days.
>oh shit nigga it’s time for pockets, fuck my life

[Anonymous No.15817263]

>>15817239
>>15816786
>thinking you are right when you are completely wrong
You can request them not to add them in from the factory when you are ordering MTM.
>my friend does this every single time
Even if you couldn’t do that, all you have to do is unpick and cut off the ones they put in.

Pic related

[Anonymous No.15817272]

>>15817255
For anyone willing to travel to the UK/lives in the UK:

The best schools to learn this trade are

Newham College (best value)
London College of Fashion (overpriced, too long)
Maurice Sedwell Bespoke Tailoring school (the richest of richfags only, expensive as fuuiuuaaaaaaark)

Alongside any of this, get work in any alterations place or tailoring workshop doing basic apprentice shit. Best bet is to be able to teach a total noob as you’re learning to cement your own knowledge and pass the trade on.

If you can’t go to those schools, just get the books I mentioned and then try to find work in alterations.

>yeah buddy, we finished that out breast pocket, let’s add the facing and try to to spear the lapels

[Anonymous No.15817305]

>>15816978
No

[Me 1n6WugqKa6 No.15817310]

I don’t understand why you men can’t just wear normal clothes. Why are you all pretending to be rich by dressing up as stuck-up snotty shits?

[Anonymous No.15817311]

>>15816609
Does collar roll really matter for shirts that you wouldn't wear a tie with like patterned flannels and such?

[Me 1n6WugqKa6 No.15817317]

>>15817310
based

[Anonymous No.15817318]

>>15817310
Define normal clothes.

[Me 1n6WugqKa6 No.15817323]

>>15817318
For God sakes wear jeans a tee shirt and sneaker women don’t give a damn about your military larping and overpriced wristclocks

[Anonymous No.15817331]

>>15817323
sad

[Me 1n6WugqKa6 No.15817335]

>>15817331
Whats sad about a good looking man that isn’t a faggot try hard ?!

[Anonymous No.15817343]

>>15817323
>women don’t give a damn about your military larping and overpriced wristclocks
Dressing first and foremost for woman is mega cringe, it's pajeet tier cringe. It's the same as starting cooking or any other hobby only because "women luv it".

[Anonymous No.15817354]

>>15817335
The entire idea that settling into the lowest common denominator for fear of looking like you care is sad. I look forward to the ironic detachment from life itself inherent in modern culture going out of vogue.

[Anonymous No.15817369]

>>15817323
>>15817335
BASED

[Anonymous No.15817380]

for inspo the old tv series "all creatures great and small" had some pretty good british trad fits.

[Anonymous No.15817395]

>>15817013
yes, it is similar to your weird obsession with Americans

[Anonymous No.15817438]

>>15816826
wondering this too.

unfortunately I think the answer is just "get over it', and as much as I wish I could embrace the TIP wear and tear aesthetic, I like my shit to not look visibly stained.

[Anonymous No.15817841]

15817310
15817317
15817323
15817335
15817369
>namefagging as a trip
>samefagging

[Anonymous No.15817987]

Fucking hell, what a dead thread.

[Anonymous No.15818091]

>>15817272
>>15817255
>>15817237
Thanks for the advice Anon. I'm not in it to make money, sure it'd be nice, but that's what my day job is for. I also considered moving abroad for a few years to learn, so that was especially appreciated, despite not asking about it.

[Anonymous No.15818267]

>>15817987
it's just as I said last thread, this general needs a break

[Anonymous No.15818278]

>>15818267
It doesn't, people just have to be more active!

[Anonymous No.15818287]

How many of you fags in this thread are actually white and upper-class? I see no point in trying to dress prep if you're a middle class brown chicano or some random asian flavour. I could see the point if you at least actually studied at an ivy league college but I doubt any of you do that.

[Anonymous No.15818331]

>>15818287
We like the look, which today isn't even associated with ivy university's, at least not outside of America. And I am talking about /tip/ overall, not just prep, with the latter still having such connotations in America, just not as much as you'd like to believe. I'm not sure why you, and many others like you have asked this question, as we'll dress like this nonetheless.

[Anonymous No.15818414]

How'd I do?
Shoes may be too casual to wear with a tie, but it's a knit fair isle so I thought it was casual enough. Planning to get a Barbour, but I'm back home from uni right now, so I needed a heavy coat.

[Anonymous No.15818472]

>>15818414
The only real flaw I see is that you're wearing this fit in the wrong season! Wait until spring comes and wear it without the coat or tie and it is nearing perfection. Bravo!

[Anonymous No.15818560]

>>15818414
pants could use higher rise. tie is a bit ugly, but is muted enough to not clash with the rugby. good post

[Anonymous No.15818576]

>>15818414
Those pants look baller. W2?

[Anonymous No.15818590]

>>15818414
imo the red looks a little too bright for the overall package, i get it's the style but on abstract color combining level it's a little annoying
otherwise, i like where this is going

[Anonymous No.15818616]

Any good sales happening?

[Anonymous No.15818685]

>>15818414
How exactly did Tretorns become a prep staple?

[Anonymous No.15818709]

>>15818576
>>15818560
Pants are LL Bean double L chinos, classic fit. Pic doesn't do the rise justice.
>>15818685
No clue. I used to think they were ugly, but after seeing them so much on Instagram I've really warmed up to them.

[Anonymous No.15818950]

>>15818414
Good but the polo looks bit tight

[Anonymous No.15819896]

>>15818709
>I used to think they were ugly, but after seeing them so much on Instagram I've really warmed up to them.
>easily shaped by popular opinion and mere exposure effect

[Anonymous No.15820017]

>>15816846
Classic questions like this are becoming a good sign that we are in a legitimate /tip/ thread and not some wannabe shit. Making anons seethe inexplicably is the true litmus test of a good /tip/ thread.

[Anonymous No.15820033]

>>15817255
Jake's shirts on Instagram is an interesting guy doing mtm shirts. Are you doing something similar or are you working for an actual tailoring company?

I'm interested in being a trouser degenerate, as I find getting fitting trousers the hardest shit in the world. Right now I can hem my trousers. Is it much work to let out the trouser leg from the knee to the hem? I have some trousers from natalino but they have a really aggressive taper. There's about 1cm of fabric on one side and 2cm on the other.

[Anonymous No.15820044]

>>15817380
Just checked it out. Incredibly comfy.

[Anonymous No.15820046]

>>15816846
Poorly framed question with loads of assumptions and quick conclusions.

>why do people want to wear TIP?
Every person will have a different reason as to why they wear a certain style of clothes. Some might wear tip to appear smarter, to look wealthy, to distinguish themselves from the rest. Others might wear tip to conform to locally popular fashions or simply because they’ve been raised in the clothes.

>whats the idea in dressing like this if you aren't actually upper class or an ivy league student? especially if you're not in US?
These days, clothes aren’t as strictly tied to one’s class, school, not country.

>obviously, one reason might be to emulate this higher class academia fashion. but then it's just larping.
Clothes by themselves do not make the wearer a LARPER. LARP entails both the appearance and behaviours of the person who wishes to embody a character.

>one may then refute that you don't have to be a worker to wear workwear, a punk to wear a leather jacket, etc, that it's just the spirit and an aesthetic. but then, what's the point? to look smarter than you are, like with thick rimmed glasses? this is very pretentious too.

Yes, if you wear tip to appear smarter, that is very pretentious. Pretension is ugly and hollow. You ask what the pint is and answer your own question. People wear clothes for the spirit and aesthetic of the garments; it’s clothes for clothes own sake.

[Anonymous No.15820062]

>>15820046
We get this question in every single thread. There should be an answer to it in the OP.

Pic related, is this adaptation of aspects of ivy style an abomination? I myself like a more modern take on /tip/. It
keeps the style fresh and speaks to the sporty, youthful and forward looking ethos that ivy originally embodied.

[Anonymous No.15820064]

>>15820062
Drake's modernises the look well.

[Anonymous No.15820068]

>>15820062
The historical spirit of tip was rebellion so I see no incongruity in keeping the style “fresh.” I just can’t bring myself to wear sneakers/runners like the man in your picture. Otherwise, good fit.

[Anonymous No.15820070]

Koreans seem to be dominating the /tip/ game right now.

[Anonymous No.15820085]

>>15820070
Any Korean stores we should know about? How’d they take over Japanese tip?

[Anonymous No.15820099]

>>15820068
This. Plus it looks a lot better

[Anonymous No.15820133]

.>>15820085
Japanese are still really good (I'm amazed at the quality of jap brooks brothers) but there seems to be a lot of Korean mtm and bespoke going on. /Tip/ Instagram is FULL of Koreans. /Tip/ is far more alive in Asia than in the west.

Some Korean brands/tailors:

Bntailor, tannery shoes, brown.oc (super ivy. Wish we had something like this in Europe), ascottage (more trad) andreseoul, antiko....

Correct me if I'm wrong but Korean tip seems to be more trad and classic whilst Japanese mixes in much more work wear and casual wear.

It's always surprising how popular brands like JM Weston and trickers are in the East.

[Anonymous No.15820138]

Drake's is the only brand I know (lol rowing blazers) that does the youthful, fun side of /tip/ well. They also have GREAT marketing that really makes me want to be one of the drakes boys.

[Anonymous No.15820294]

[Anonymous No.15820319]

>>15820294

[Anonymous No.15820352]

>>15820294
Absolutely based. Do any of you here have /tip/pas which you bring into town for a dander around?

[Anonymous No.15820371]

>>15817255
Where can I get some nice patterns for high waisted wool trousers? A friend of mine started making her own things, and she said that she could make me something, I just need to cover the material cost and find a pattern that she can work with.
Preferably something cheap, yet decent, preferably also something I can just print as I am a poorfag from eastern Europe and don't want to pay 50$ for shipping.
Probably sounding like a newfag rn, but I don't really know where to start.

[Anonymous No.15820397]

>>15815640
If I went to a tailor and told him "hey I bought this thing brand new from - ehh not you! - can you pls make it look i bought something quality from you?"
I would expect to be kindly asked to leave.

[Anonymous No.15820460]

>>15820371
Flashy trousers aren't a good idea IMO. You don't want to distract from the trop half.

[Anonymous No.15820647]

Roll neck under moleskin shirt. Good idea it terrible idea? 80s preppies did this for some reason.

[Anonymous No.15820658]

>>15820647
Or*

[Anonymous No.15820666]

>>15820647
There's a good reason why it was left in the 80s. And God damn, close your toothpaste lid.

[Anonymous No.15820668]

>>15820666
Ok cool thanks. I just needed to know. Btw I left it open as a ruse.

[Anonymous No.15820693]

[Anonymous No.15820716]

>>15820693
Reddit tier meme

[Anonymous No.15820725]

>>15820716
post a 4channel meme then

[Anonymous No.15820857]

>>15820460
lol what a shit take. look into GTH trousers

[Anonymous No.15820879]

>>15820857
>GTH pants

Literally the exception to the rule. Also, your take is bad and you are ugly.

[Anonymous No.15820950]

>>15818331
>We like the look
I like the look of waffen SS soldiers and 19th century english dukes, yet I don't go out dressed as one.
Dressing /tip/ without being /tip/ must surely be a motive of ridicule, even if people don't express it to your face.

[Anonymous No.15820958]

>>15820879
lol sad
>>15820950
everyone ITT is white and upper-class

[Anonymous No.15820971]

>>15820958
>everyone ITT is white and upper-class
I don't think there is a single board or thread on 4chan where that applies to more than 20% of posters

[Anonymous No.15820998]

>>15820958
Define "white"

[Anonymous No.15821025]

>>15820950
Did a redneck laugh at you for wearing an ocbd when you were a kid or something?

[Anonymous No.15821050]

>>15820950
>Dressing /tip/ without being /tip/ must surely be a motive of ridicule, even if people don't express it to your face.
You're just insecure, tell me why I should care if some people have a bit of banter about the way we dress? Fuck those people, they're usually under performing people anyway.

[Anonymous No.15821077]

Give me something to buy for a maximum of £25 which is /tip/ and of decent quality. It doesn't have to be clothing.

[Anonymous No.15821100]

>>15820085
>>15820070
>>15820062
>>15820017
Bait

[Anonymous No.15821153]

>>15821077
a safety pin for your collar to go behind your tie knot or a thrift/ebay repp tie

[Anonymous No.15821287]

>>15821153
damn imagine paying 25 £ for a tie at the thrift
>>15821077
A nice book or a jazz LP

[Anonymous No.15821302]

[Anonymous No.15821307]

>>15821302
not a fan of the clashing patterns and the monochrome look of the shirt and suit

[Anonymous No.15821311]

>>15821287
>damn imagine paying 25 £ for a tie at the thrift
I've noticed that on eBay knit ties can go upwards to £100! They are quite nice but is it worth the price? Probably not. Thank you for your suggestions btw.
>>15821153
Thank you but there is no need for a collar pin since I exclusively wear button down collars at the moment.

[Anonymous No.15821316]

>>15821302
That's absolutely abhorrent, what the fuck where people in the 90s thinking?

[Anonymous No.15821346]

>>15821025
i'm not even american

>>15821050
fashion is a social activity/statement. if your fashion is a reason for jokes in your social circle then you have failed at being fashionable. Dressing for oneself is not just a meme, but also likely a sign of schizophrenia.

[Anonymous No.15821362]

>>15821346
Many people criticizing the way you dress are usually insecure and you can usually just insult them back which may make you seem witty. But tell me, what's so strange about wearing chinos and an ocbd with a jumper thrown on top?
>but also likely a sign of schizophrenia.
Right, youre probably just baiting at this point to get (you)s because schizophrenia and the way you dress is not correlated at all, however, if you would've said sociopathy, then you would still have me. I think it's time for you to go back to whatever other general you came from.

[Anonymous No.15822137]

[Anonymous No.15822317]

>>15820319
Aren't the buttons bulging out like that a sign of the coat being too tight? I have an overcoat that wears almost the same. It fits and feels great otherwise but I can't get over the buttons pulling at the fabric and being exposed as in this pic.

[Anonymous No.15822319]

>>15822317
formatting messed up, particularly referring to the guy in the brown coat in >>15820319

[Anonymous No.15822338]

>>15822317
The guy is clearly a fat sack of shit, obviously it's gonna be too tight on him, so yes.

[Anonymous No.15822385]

>>15822317
this is not TIP

[Anonymous No.15822436]

>>15820460
By pattern I did not mean trousers with critter pattern, what I've meant is this form(?)(can't find a word, sorry) where you put the material on and cut it along the lines

[Anonymous No.15822573]

>>15822385
>Not trad as fuck.

Apart from being fat and having facial hair, they literally look like they stepped out of a 50s fashion illustration.

Thoughts on coat?

[Anonymous No.15822596]

>>15822573
It looks more 60s.

[Anonymous No.15822605]

>>15820371
Do your friend a favour and buy her ‘Metric Pattern Cutting for Menswear’ and she can make you the pattern herself. Alternatively, you could do the same. All you need is a pencil, long ruler, curved ruler, and pattern paper. So long as you can follow instructions and have measurements, you’ve got it.

[Anonymous No.15822640]

Why are there so few fits recently?

[Anonymous No.15822642]

>>15816939
wrong kek

[Anonymous No.15822647]

>>15819896
this

[Anonymous No.15822677]

>>15822640
>recently

[Anonymous No.15822686]

>>15822640
>constant shitposting regardless of actual quality of fit
>no one in these threads actually dresses /tip/
>every fit posted gets called 'not /tip/'
choose one, or several, makes no difference. This is a dead general that limps along solely due to a few dedicated bumpers.
Note that /tip/ as a style survives. Discussion of it on 4chan does not.

[Anonymous No.15823029]

Pleated cords, yes or no? Found some old PRL cords at a second hand shop and considering buying them.

[Anonymous No.15823031]

>>15822686
peopole are afraid to post pics now that your credit score can depend on where and what you say online.

it is a chilling effect of lack of privacy

write to your legislator

[Anonymous No.15823065]

>>15823029
Yes, in my experience the pleats won't be very visible anyway.

[Anonymous No.15823849]

Wore this on Christmas.

[Anonymous No.15823855]

>>15823849

what the fuck

[Anonymous No.15823937]

>>15823849
LMAO

[Anonymous No.15823953]

>>15823849
eww

[Anonymous No.15824064]

>Newham College (best value)

top fucking kek, who would have thought there'd be at least one thing of value in my shitty borough.

I unronically recall hearing about this years back that they had a solid course. Kinda wish I gave it a try 2bh despite not being into suiting/tailoring.

[Anonymous No.15824204]

>>15822686
>>every fit posted gets called 'not /tip/'
Seethe

[Anonymous No.15824208]

>>15823849
Nice I hope you smoke cigars or a pipe

[Anonymous No.15824366]

>>15823031
>credit score is impacted by what you say online
what

[Anonymous No.15824902]

>>15818414
Isn't it funny that despite that a lot of fits posted here are nice, most of the lads who wear them don't look comfortable in their own skin

[Anonymous No.15824926]

>>15824366
look at china's social credit system.
that is what is coming

[Anonymous No.15825194]

Bump

[Anonymous No.15825202]

>>15824902
Posing is a lot harder than what many would think as here you have to be able to showcase how it fits, which will usually put you in quite an unnatural pose.

[Anonymous No.15825243]

>>15824064
I tried to get on the course but I couldn’t. Walked around the area and it is a total shit hole

[Anonymous No.15825251]

What type of prep is this, and where do I find more of it?

[Anonymous No.15825256]

>>15825251
that's sprez not prep

>>15824926
why would they need our biometric details to shut off our transactions? Can't they do that anyway if all transactions tae place digitally?

[Anonymous No.15825300]

>>15825256
Hmm, I just feel that sprez is always about suiting, where some prep is less formal.

[Anonymous No.15825380]

>>15825300
Your feelings clearly cloud your judgement then.

[Anonymous No.15825394]

>>15825243
KEK, I'm sorry. Are you from a different part of London or outside London? You just get used to it after a while (somewhat)

I've gotta admit it is a shithole area which Is why its so funny they've got a good course. Good luck finding an alternative course though.

[Anonymous No.15825409]

>>15825202
Oh, I do agree, I am myself utter rubbish at this too

[Anonymous No.15825687]

>>15825251
nice

[Anonymous No.15826168]

Is it alright to wear a tweed tie? I’m really liking this one.

[Anonymous No.15826541]

>>15826168
I bet that's cheap. Is it even tweed?

[Anonymous No.15826703]

>>15825409
You just have to practice to get the perfect mix between being natural and also showing off how your clothes fit.

[Anonymous No.15826706]

>>15825251
Gay bars and such

[Anonymous No.15826708]

>>15826168
I personally wouldn't, especially not that one which looks really odd. There are many weaves which add texture to a tie. Even knits with the knit tie.

[Anonymous No.15826836]

>>15823849
yikes

[Anonymous No.15826991]

>>15825251
Not tip

[Anonymous No.15827391]

>>15825251
Wear a blue bandana in your ass pocket and it will walk right up to you

[Anonymous No.15827998]

>>15820647
bad call desu. hows moleskin as a winter shirt fabric?

[Anonymous No.15828011]

>>15817237
when it comes to thread what should i buy for machine use, any specific quality?

[Anonymous No.15828017]

>>15827391

[Anonymous No.15828120]

[Anonymous No.15828198]

>>15820647
I think it can be done well. Fit has to be immaculate though or it will look bad

[Anonymous No.15828287]

>>15826168
Awkward prom outfit tier. I would dump this in the same bin as black/deep red shirts.

[Anonymous No.15828293]

>>15828120
This is trying way too hard. It's a grotesque caricature of /tip/ and not relaxed at all.

[Anonymous No.15828654]

>>15828120
>simultaneously cold enough for a jumper and hot enough for shorts

[Anonymous No.15829647]

[Anonymous No.15830461]

B U M P

[Anonymous No.15830893]

>>15820064
What is that sort of stitching on the chinos called?

[Anonymous No.15831110]

AAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaAaaaaAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

I

HATE

NIGGEEEEEERS

[Anonymous No.15831129]

>>15831110
You trying to get banned?

[Anonymous No.15831154]

>>15831129
He's just trying to bump the thread since it's pretty much dead.

[Anonymous No.15831160]

AAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaAaaaaAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

I

HATE

NIGEEEEEER

America is better

[Anonymous No.15831220]

>>15831160
based

[Anonymous No.15831402]

[Anonymous No.15831592]

Bump :,(

[Anonymous No.15831630]

>>15813209

[Anonymous No.15831700]

I really want some cardigans for that cool trad ivy professor sitting in his office reading books and drinking coffee all day look

[Anonymous No.15831710]

>>15831700
https://www.depaz.it/collections/maglieria?page=3

[Anonymous No.15831713]

What is everyone's style new years resolutions?

[Anonymous No.15831723]

>>15831713
Sort out my trouser game nd learn to use the sewing machine to hem a bunch of trousers. Also need to let out a few which taper too aggressively.

[Anonymous No.15831726]

>>15831154
this general is dead

[Anonymous No.15831744]

>>15831726
That's pretty obvious but I'm wondering when it began to die and why? can anyone answer?

[Anonymous No.15831819]

>>15831744
Too much savage critique not enough fits.

[Anonymous No.15831886]

What's a very close alternative to the JM Weston 180 loafer without paying 800 dollars for the shoe to say "JM Weston" on it?

[Anonymous No.15831995]

>>15831744

1. gatekeeping
2. poltards
3. idiotic larping
4. Christian chensvold

[Anonymous No.15832000]

>>15831744
We all moved to /sprezz/

[Anonymous No.15832189]

>>15831886
Orbans, Loding, Septieme Largeur all do 'homages'.

[Anonymous No.15832252]

>>15832000
checked

this doesn’t explain much though because /sprezz/ also has very few fits and a lot of larping. It doesn’t have gatekeeping in the same way that /tip/ does but I think that’s because there’s an implicitly understood high barrier of entry so people with sub-immaculate fits don’t bother to post in the first place

[Anonymous No.15832354]

>>15832252
/sprezz/ is one South African posting fits, at best 2 others with fits of random quality per thread and that ugly tripfaggot shitting everywhere. It also gatekeeps although it claims not to and leans heavily towards trends as seen by its penchant for gurkha trouses.

[Anonymous No.15832371]

>>15831700
>coffee
You mean Scotch

[Anonymous No.15832375]

>>15832354
>that ugly tripfaggot shitting everywhere

He's actually pretty based and a nice guy. It's the reason I left these threads because of the hate non-stop and the more normal people in sprezz. Even to the point I'm working on dressing sprezz now.

[Anonymous No.15832428]

>>15832375
>t. Cecil

[Anonymous No.15832437]

>>15832375
Put your trip back on, we know it's you, faggot

[Anonymous No.15832440]

>>15831744
>>15831744
Most people who posted fits consistently have left for greener pastures. There's also a few dedicated trolls, despite them being being btfo'd over and over for not posting fits. also daily discussion sucks due to the constant influx of newfags who've never owned an OCBD

[Anonymous No.15832472]

Anyone here own the Alden loafer? How should I size?
I'm going to spend my stimulus Trumpbux on a pair, but I want to get the sizing right

[Anonymous No.15832500]

>>15832371
No I don't