/wt/ Watch Thread

[Anonymous No.15789631]

Time To Fuck Edition

This thread is about the appreciation of watches and their design, their history, and the engineering and materials that are required to make a functioning timepiece.

Guides:
> Poorfag guide: https://m.imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
> Watch essentials 102: https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV
> Purchasing used watches: https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2
> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE

Should I buy this MVMT / DW / "minimalist" fashion watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

Should I buy this Armani / Michael Kors / mall watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/Sw1FsAn

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
> Wrist size or desired watch size

Old bread >>15787780

[Anonymous No.15789643]

kneel!

[Anonymous No.15789644]

How well is the watch industry going to hold up over pandemic economy?

[Anonymous No.15789651]

>>15789644
It has never done better. Watch prices have gone up during the pandemic especially pre-owned.

[Anonymous No.15789655]

>>15789644
People with money and time don't have anything to spend it on, so they go online shopping

[Anonymous No.15789661]

>>15789651
>>15789655
Interesting. I figured there would be more online shopping, but since there's less socialising, it also means less people can actually see your new watch.

[Anonymous No.15789663]

>>15789631
>cutting off the image

[Anonymous No.15789695]

>four (4) quartz movements

[Anonymous No.15789710]

>>15789661
>>15789644
bigger, more established brands are doing well

fringe mallshit brands are suffering i.mo
the sales and price slashing i see on these look pretty desperate

[Anonymous No.15789718]

Uhh guys... some itch-scratching to be had here - of the Zeitwerk kind!

[Anonymous No.15789725]

>>15789661
It's a combination of factors. Factories closed for several months so production numbers are lower this year so demand far outweighs supply for new watches even for previously not so hot models. Rich people did surprising well during the crisis. They bought stocks when the markets crashed and but companies like Amazon which has spiked. There is more money being spent on high-end watches now than ever. Even before the pandemic the watch market was soaring especial for the Instagram favorites and it has just increased. Previously it was just steel sports that was popular but now even precious metal models are going for over list. That is very unusual.

[Anonymous No.15789727]

>>15789663
it was a screenshot.
it's impossible to save images these days.

[Anonymous No.15789751]

>>15789644
Extremely well. We are in the midst of the greatest transfer of wealth (to the top) in human history and prices for luxury goods reflect this.

[Anonymous No.15789757]

Is it okay to buy a fake seiko dial to swap into my real seiko skx?

[Anonymous No.15789761]

>>15789710
Probably not due to pandemic, but a long term trend due to smart watches. People who'd previously bought whatever now buy smartwatches. People who'd buy more expensive watches from established brands still do.

[Anonymous No.15789762]

>>15789757
Forgot pic

[Anonymous No.15789765]

>>15789757
its just a skx
do what you want with it
people have smeared and modded all kinds of shit onto their own watches
you might as well change the hands too while you are at it

(rare or vintage watches and buying/selling are another issue obviously)

[Anonymous No.15789767]

>>15789761
Are there any smartwatches that are more privacy-oriented and have good battery life? You know, stuff that nerds would have liked to wear in 1999 before everything went to shit?

I don't get how people let tech shift into this direction, it seemed so cool back then.

[Anonymous No.15789773]

>>15789767
>more privacy-oriented

[Anonymous No.15789783]

>>15789718
>$1275 when it was available
>jumping hour
Nice... anyone know if it's an in house movement?

[Anonymous No.15789785]

I don't think I want to be watch collecting anymore. I want to stop. I only need 2 watches, one for free time and one dress for work. Should I just cut the shit and buy a fucking Submariner or something equal? I love the stories of people handing down their one watch that they always wore to their son for example, I don't think that's gonna be 3 Vostoks, 4 Seiko 5s, a Hamilton Cucky and a box of G Shocks.

The pieces can be cliche or unique, but they have to be timeless. 10k budget per watch then I'm out of here.

[Anonymous No.15789789]

>As Seiko Folk, we trade Latin names for reference numbers, common names for an endless array of increasingly indistinct nicknames. When a friend texts an image of a large and imposing puck of a watch on his wrist with the caption reading "SBBN013 :)", it is incumbent upon you to translate and reply in due form, "Oh, nice Darth Tuna"

[Anonymous No.15789799]

>>15789789
Lol

[Anonymous No.15789800]

>>15789767
A smart watch by design is a bunch of sensors used to give more or less useful information.
You want something with a bunch of sensors and connectivities but at the same time doesn't track you?
You get what I mean, I think that even without any bad intentions, most smart features only work by tracking and processing a ton of information about you.
You're into muh freedom, simply don't buy one.

[Anonymous No.15789802]

>>15789783
Calibre AN0735A automatic self winding mechanical movement with jumping hours.

It can be had for a bit more than that here
https://www.chronoluxfinewatches.co.uk/armand-nicolet-hs2/armand-nicolet-hs2-a136aaa-nr-p974nr2

[Anonymous No.15789803]

>>15789783
its not, they only have a few models with their inhouse and the jumping hour isnt one of them
its some eta thing cant remember now

[Anonymous No.15789805]

>>15789803
>ETA with jumping hour
That means there's more where that came from.

[Anonymous No.15789814]

whats his wrist circumference again?

[Anonymous No.15789820]

>>15789785
You're not going to be handing down shit.

[Anonymous No.15789825]

>>15789805
I think it's just some module they can slap on top of a standard eta.
Meistersinger actually makes one, unfortunately it's in an even more stupid and impractical case than most of their other watchers.

[Anonymous No.15789826]

>>15789800
>You want something with a bunch of sensors and connectivities but at the same time doesn't track you?
Yes? I mean I can literally get a thermometer and stick it in my ass and get the info without it being recorded anywhere (yet), so why not a watch?

[Anonymous No.15789844]

>>15789785
>not having 10 children so you can give each of them a shitter

[Anonymous No.15789860]

>>15789785
Ive browsed "used" watches on online bazaars quite a bit. People are selling whole collections of shitters, noone wants to sell them separately, after grandpa died and noone knows whats what, or they dont care and just want to get rid of trash and thought watches might be worth something. 99% of the time they are a bunch of tasteless worthless shitheaps. With no more value than their run-down battery.
There is also no guarantee that your heir will actually wear the piece with pride as a heirloom and not sell it within a month of your death for drug money (or your spouse, for that matter).

In the end, noone can answer this question for you.

[Anonymous No.15789877]

can someone please replace the ratto with a watch of your choice

[Anonymous No.15789881]

>>15789631
Lol imagine actually caring about... watches HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHSBFJRKRKTN

[Anonymous No.15789893]

>>15789860
It's not like I'm gonna give the watch away when I'm 90 to my degenerate grand kids, I'd give away my watch when my son finishes college or something, teach him about watches beforehand so he can appreciate it and then give it to him for becoming a decent human being. If the heir sees it as a symbol and as a reminder for something personal, they probably won't sell it for drug money.

[Anonymous No.15789941]

Unmoggable.

[Anonymous No.15789944]

>>15789860
>someone actually made a watch for ""people"" who wear their watches wrongly

ah, very creative....

[Anonymous No.15789959]

>>15789695
you are like baby

[Anonymous No.15789978]

So what's the deal with this case? Are they using a chink fake bb58 case with a different bezel and crown or did they actually make this themselves? It's not identical to the vintage rolex or tudor case as far as i can tell.

[Anonymous No.15789980]

>>15789959
>>15789695
8 quartz movements 1 ETA
$7000

[Anonymous No.15789983]

>>15789978
>is a Chinese company using a Chinese case?

[Anonymous No.15789984]

>>15789980
50mm

[Anonymous No.15789985]

Is there anything that has to be specially designed for a watch to work in space or is it that watches that happened to have been taken to space got memed hard into "space watches"

[Anonymous No.15789986]

>>15789980
>>15789984

[Anonymous No.15789988]

>>15789985
Casio G-Shock Mudman.

[Anonymous No.15789990]

>>15789985
Look up NASAs testing requirements for watches to be used in space I guess.

[Anonymous No.15789992]

>>15789983
I know it's a Chinese case, I'm just wondering if they designed this one themselves or if they are repurposing some existing case. And if they are where it's from, since i don't see anyone else using it from the usual chink brands.

[Anonymous No.15789997]

>>15789985
>Is there anything that has to be specially designed for a watch to work in space
No, it's 100% memes

[Anonymous No.15790000]

>>15789718
Jump hour (not jump minute) watches are quite commonly and cheaply found om ebay from the 70s. There are a couple of affordable jump minute watches with the ESA9159 movement; I have one and it works quite nicely.

[Anonymous No.15790014]

Guys I've been wanting to buy this watch for about 2 years now. I forgot all about it but recently saw a picture of it again and it makes me so fucking depressed that it's not produced anymore and is sold out everywhere. Does anyone know any way at all that I could get my hands on one?

[Anonymous No.15790019]

>>15789978
yes, it's literally bb58 fake with worse bracelet, crown, dial, hands and clasp.
(pic is fake one)

[Anonymous No.15790020]

>>15789985
no
the 1st watch ever in space, worn by Yuri Gagarin was just a normal 17-jewel, 33mm acrylic-crystal shitter. It wasnt even a big deal or anything. Not like how Omega markets their EXTREME, FOR SPACE meme moon watches now

[Anonymous No.15790030]

>>15789985
It has to not fall apart when flying in the rocket. That's it.

[Anonymous No.15790045]

>>15790020
>normal 17-jewel, 33mm acrylic-crystal shitter
No it's a watch that was given to specifically pilots after they graduate, so it was purpose built for such conditions.
There was also regular ver for sold to normal people but movement in it was cheapened.
Yes I've read 50 page long thread in russian about this watch, how could you tell?

[Anonymous No.15790054]

>>15789826
Probably some kind of g shock or some old fit/tracking device without a ton of functionalities.

[Anonymous No.15790063]

>>15790054
They even make military cell phones without spyware so something has to exist.

[Anonymous No.15790073]

>>15790014
That looks more like the SNKM47K1 and they are on ebay

[Anonymous No.15790090]

>>15789767
As the guy you're replying to, I really have no idea. All the watches I wear are from the 60's and 70's.

[Anonymous No.15790127]

>>15789944
eh, I get what you're saying but I feel like it's just a different version of the Ventura aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.15790154]

>>15789978
>screws sticking out of links
Is that a thing or just san martin?

[Anonymous No.15790156]

Ok, ciao guys and welcome to the show.

[Anonymous No.15790159]

>>15790154
Fake riveted bracelet. Is also a thing on the BB58

[Anonymous No.15790211]

>>15789785
I rationalised my collection and it felt v.good. From about 30 to:
>Pre-bond quartz Seamaster (1984 - means something to me)
>3 x Tudor Black Bays (SG, GMT, Dark)
> AP Royal Oak Chrono

[Anonymous No.15790214]

>>15789785
>I love the stories of people handing down their one watch that they always wore to their son for example, I don't think that's gonna be 3 Vostoks, 4 Seiko 5s, a Hamilton Cucky and a box of G Shocks.

The value of the watch does not matter, you can inherit a shitter and it will have sentimental value if that watch was used or is attached to the owner.If the watch has only economic value it will be sold.

>>15789985
Yes, Omega skywalker x-33, not suitable for spacewalks, but made for space missions, it is pretty resistant to shocks, it has a good light, bezel, chrono, timezones, and a countdown that is used to track the number of days/hours left until the end of the mission or task, people say it is useful to track time when you have to travel or doing some specific shit in many days. On top of that the alarm of the watch is apparently very loud because on the ship there are many loud sounds so the alarm has the same volume as a hairdresser. From all the meme space watches is probably the only legit one,it packs a lot of stuff.

[Anonymous No.15790215]

>>15790214
hairdrier*

[Anonymous No.15790216]

>>15790214
the z-33 is the one to go for if you have big wrists.

[Anonymous No.15790239]

>>15790216
That watch is very weird, like 60's sci fi aesthetic, hard to wear it without looking like a larper.But its cool.

[Anonymous No.15790243]

>>15790239
If you can find one for £3K, I'd wager they'll skyrocket in value over the next 5 years.

[Anonymous No.15790246]

>>15790154
thats the same as the original rolex that the SM is based on

[Anonymous No.15790247]

>>15790214
>x-33
Nice. I think I'd take this over a GS or a Rolex of the same price.

[Anonymous No.15790259]

>>15789978
very tempted to get this san martin
apparently its selling extremely well

>>15790154

[Anonymous No.15790263]

>>15790214
I know it's a tool watch but still
>45mm
What about the rest of us who aren't astronauts?

[Anonymous No.15790268]

>>15789978
But why is everything piss colored
Can we just stop making faux patina for 2 weeks

[Anonymous No.15790292]

>>15790073
definitely not SNKK47K1

[Anonymous No.15790296]

CWC confirmed weeb trash brand

[Anonymous No.15790320]

>>15790247
If you value an utilitarian mountain jew watch over mountain jew marketing or samurai folded steel, the watch is really nice, the movement is thermocompensated,has saving energy mode (when you don't use the functions it only works in analogic mode), and you can turn it off when you want, it has jewels, it's not an aliexpress movement, a servicing cost around 800 but it's quartz, so I guess it will last many years before a servicing and them Omega slaps another movement into the watch and it will be like a new watch for another 15 years.The only problem with the watch is the price, it's high, but there is almost no competition in that niche, it's the Omega x-33, the Breitling aerospace, or some high end smartwatch.

[Anonymous No.15790347]

>>15790263
At least is 48mm L2L wide and not some 53-55mm monster.I have seen pictures of 6.5inch wrist with it and does not look very bad, pretty decnt considering it's a tool watch, similar to Gshock, the type of watch allows for some non meme WRIST PRESENCE.

[Anonymous No.15790361]

>>15790073
no thats the seiko 5 nautilus homage
>>15790292
>>15790014
you could put up WTB listings on various sites
and be prepared to pay like $350 or something ridiculous (for real)
at that price why not get the san martin nautilus lol
it has better everything

[Anonymous No.15790377]

>>15789785
Just something to remember if you arent wealthy to the point where loosing/damaging it wouldnt be a worry having such a fancy watch would be a bad idea for 2 watch collection.

My plan is
-one beater/beach watch
-Work watch
-Dress watch
-Special occasion/ autistic watch

[Anonymous No.15790381]

>>15790377
>loosing
its spelled losing.
loose is a totally different word.
why cant people spell anymore

[Anonymous No.15790388]

>>15790381
Back too redit yuo go

[Anonymous No.15790393]

>>15790045
Bless your autism anon

[Anonymous No.15790397]

>>15790388
>not being able to spell grade school words is a 4chan thing now
didnt know the 13% hang out here now

[Anonymous No.15790401]

>>15790381
Mother drank heavily and I spent a lot of time in state care.

[Anonymous No.15790412]

>>15790259
I ordered one, should be coming on Friday

[Anonymous No.15790454]

>>15789814
hi tim
Six and a quarter

[Anonymous No.15790494]

Do you guys accessorize your watch wrist at all?

I'm not a /fa/g just curious

[Anonymous No.15790495]

>>15789767
apple's entire thing is privacy, stinky

[Anonymous No.15790499]

>>15790494

[Anonymous No.15790505]

>>15789727
Use the Allow Right Click extension
Also there are plenty of ways to get around websites and extract images.
t. data hoarder

[Anonymous No.15790509]

>>15790259
>>15790259
>100m
>diver watch
lmao

[Anonymous No.15790510]

>>15790020
>acrylic-crystal shitter
All watches that have been to space were acrylic crystal

[Anonymous No.15790512]

>>15790494
Why are you wearing that kabalah string?

[Anonymous No.15790517]

>>15790499
yeah Id be worried about that wearing at my Explorer. nice piece tho

[Anonymous No.15790519]

>>15790512
>> Wearing a thin scarlet or crimson string (Hebrew: חוט השני, khutt hasheni) as a type of talisman is a Jewish folk custom as a way to ward off misfortune brought about by the "evil eye" (Hebrew: עין הרע). The tradition is popularly thought to be associated with Kabbalah and religious forms of Judaism.

[Anonymous No.15790528]

>>15790494
No, i only put stuff on the other wrist sometimes. Even if i use a material that can't scratch my watch, it still feels strange and annoys me visually. Never wore a string but that would be fine. I sometimes wear a bead bracelet with small beads.

[Anonymous No.15790532]

Is there any reasons why Oris arent more desired here? The diver 65 looks pretty nice imo and the used prices are really good value.

Is it just the name? the movement? people buttmad over buying one new?

[Anonymous No.15790540]

>>15790263
Apparently the 45mm includes the portruding bits while the bezel is 41mm.

[Anonymous No.15790541]

>>15790532
i've seen more interest lately. Until fairly recently they didnt have some of the most exciting designs, but the diver 65 (funky numeral one especially for me), aquis, and big crown pointer date are all well liked. Now theyve come out with a couple in house movements (albeit with some problems) so that should increase their brand prestige

[Anonymous No.15790557]

Match belt to watch strap or who cares?

[Anonymous No.15790565]

What watch is he wearing?

[Anonymous No.15790566]

>>15790532
I don't dislike Oris but they're right at the price where it's more than a shitter but not quite enough to really be considered luxury, and for a little more you could get a Tudor or Omega

[Anonymous No.15790567]

>>15790565
who cares it's on a skinnyfat larperator with the meme high speed low drag minimalist pc and the reddit flannel

[Anonymous No.15790574]

>>15789767
any watch that isn't able to connect to a smartphone.

[Anonymous No.15790586]

>>15790565
Probably an armitron or timex, something cheap

[Anonymous No.15790590]

>>15790566
Its hardly a little more. Its double or triple in some cases.

[Anonymous No.15790601]

>>15790532
The aesthetics of their watches aren't for me, but they offer a totally reasonable price to quality ratio in a price range where almost all of their competitors are way overpriced for what you get.

[Anonymous No.15790605]

>>15789985
coils work in low gravity, go figure

[Anonymous No.15790606]

Got a mostly focused LOOM shot of my new marathon. Parallax makes the bezel look misaligned. Very happy with the watch overall.

[Anonymous No.15790607]

>>15790565
Garmin or Suunto

[Anonymous No.15790617]

>>15790565
Looks like a smartwatch.

[Anonymous No.15790618]

>>15789985

It has to be a OMEEGA MAN ON THE FAHKIN MEWN

[Anonymous No.15790620]

>>15790557
I would unless you have somrthing like blue or green leather. Generally speaking I feel the leather and metal in an outfit should match. So no mix and matchong grey metals with yellow ones and same with brown and black leather or what ever other color you have. Obviously there are exceptions.

[Anonymous No.15790649]

>>15790590
The point being that if you're saving up for something nice then you probably won't be satisfied with an Oris compared to a Breitling, Tudor or Omega. And at the higher end for Oris you're already approaching the same price range, so why not save a little more and get something better at that point

[Anonymous No.15790651]

>>15790649
I'd rather have an oris than a Breitling. And I sold Breitling.

[Anonymous No.15790654]

>>15790454
it's 16 centimeters, get it right

[Anonymous No.15790657]

>>15790651
Not him but I have a soft spot for the Aerospace, even if the bezel is hideous.

[Anonymous No.15790668]

>>15790651
And?
I never said anything against Oris.
I said at their price that they're between being a shitter and entry level luxury, where most people would rather get a higher end watch but settle for something less.
So what are you trying to say, that Oris is more popular than Breitling? Because I seriously doubt it

[Anonymous No.15790670]

>>15790657
Breitlings quartz watches are unironically their best

[Anonymous No.15790678]

>>15790532
it's a stupid point but I really dislike the logo. the big, bold helvetica or whatever looks cheap, like something a label maker would spit out.

[Anonymous No.15790687]

[Anonymous No.15790688]

>>15790670
That lighting is tripping me out

[Anonymous No.15790700]

[Anonymous No.15790702]

[Anonymous No.15790704]

[Anonymous No.15790707]

>>15790704
looks good on your wrist

[Anonymous No.15790708]

[Anonymous No.15790711]

[Anonymous No.15790712]

>>15790704
wristlets, when will they learn.

[Anonymous No.15790789]

hi im tim

[Anonymous No.15790794]

[Anonymous No.15790798]

>>15790499
Thought about getting one of these in good/ pink gold for right hand, thoughts?

[Anonymous No.15790799]

>>15790789
Is this a good watch if I want to LARP a high ranking member of a phantom organization? If not, which one?

[Anonymous No.15790801]

[Anonymous No.15790802]

>>15790708
>>15790711
It's amazing that they can put on a cruise for people that apparently have enough money to afford such a thing but also have such shit taste in watches. I feel like if you really enjoyed huge ugly watches and you had money to go on a cruise you would move onto some other upmarket huge ugly watch brands rather than invicta.

[Anonymous No.15790805]

[Anonymous No.15790810]

tim im hi

[Anonymous No.15790813]

>>15789643
fuck off newfag

[Anonymous No.15790815]

>>15790802
I want one of these but I'm not gonna pay more then 120ish. Invicta is garish, it's for sad low IQ people, it prays on shopping network addicted women, negroid menaces. But the question NO ONE asks, that no one WANTS to ask, that no one wants to KNOW. That no one wants to acknowledge..... at basement level MSRP, aka around what they go for before they are discontinued..... are they dogshit on a pure spec level? as much as teddy or jew teller or ____ wants them to be..... no, they are about on par. Is the QC orient/citizen tier? No, is it as bad as alixpress? No, and it's a growing empire, they were considering 2 cruises a year before covoid and half of their consumer base buys 10 or more.


I got this as a shitpost for around 100 - >>15790687 , and for a big ass mecha quartz where the bezel lines up and everything is solid.... unless the hands fall off I cannot tell you this thing is bad at all. Yeah it's plastic shells inside but sorry I can't tell you not to get a massive spongebob watch as a joke (it's hyrdoplated, is that good? who knows because only invicta is doing it)

[Anonymous No.15790821]

>>15790708
me in the back

[Anonymous No.15790855]

>>15790794
These are so kino. Like a mech gshock the way they spell everything out for you

[Anonymous No.15790863]

>>15790798
Rose gold is personally my least favorite looking out of the 3. I've seen it look good on certain skin tones but consider that most watches default to steel. White gold would be more versatile. I love how regular gold looks but I seem to be extremely picky about gold colored watches. I love my bracelet but kinda wish it matched my taste In watches.

[Anonymous No.15790866]

[Anonymous No.15790881]

Thoughts on this mido? Looks like they're using at least a top grade 2892.

[Anonymous No.15790883]

>>15790881
not sure the size but clearly too big with that terrible date window.

[Anonymous No.15790884]

>>15789631

I spent $115 on a Seiko SNKL45J1 and I love it.

Is it weird if I keep buying different Seiko watches instead of different makes?

[Anonymous No.15790887]

>>15790883
Its 42mm. The date wheel is on a smaller ring compared to the 2824 which is probably what you're used to.

[Anonymous No.15790893]

>>15790887
kk thats fair.
42mm is still a little large imo. But if you like it you should just go for it. Given its Mido I'm sure its fairly priced.

[Anonymous No.15790905]

[Anonymous No.15790909]

>>15790866

Saw those online, fuckoff thin and hand-wind only right? Neat stuff, looks good.

[Anonymous No.15790912]

>>15790909
>Thin
Pretty thin
>hand-wind
Yes, but there is an automatic at 40mm (?) iirc.

[Anonymous No.15790935]

>>15790884
I wish Seiko would bring back their old 5 lineup. Honestly, modern Seiko is 90% embarrassments.

[Anonymous No.15790947]

Oris Aquis Date vs. Monta Oceanking, go!

[Anonymous No.15790963]

>>15790935
I mean you can still find them there is no shortage

[Anonymous No.15790967]

>>15789941
>mogged by a g shock square

[Anonymous No.15790969]

>>15789984
>50mm
i can only imagine the case diameter

[Anonymous No.15790985]

I like the simplicity and balance of this longines. Plus it's superior Quartz, GMT and has a nice bracelet

[Anonymous No.15791005]

>>15790320
To add, of whatever value it may be, Chris Hadfield also wears one, and has done so in spess. He also wears his bracelet ridiculously loose, but hey.

[Anonymous No.15791010]

>>15790969
The skeles fear the 57mm B-Uhr.

[Anonymous No.15791013]

>>15790815

Some of their rolex homages are decent for the price HOWEVER, even if their horrendous 50mm watches are only 150 and that is technically a good deal for what you get, there comes a point where a watch is such an ugly piece of shit you are throwing money away if you spend anything on it.

[Anonymous No.15791023]

I'm the only person in my entire family who wears a watch so my grandma I guess thought I should be the one to have my great grandfather's pocket watch.
I've been considering buying the Spectre Omega seamaster and this sparked that idea back up.
Also do you guys think I should restore it or leave it alone?

[Anonymous No.15791024]

>>15791023
Based and wholesome, wish I had my grandpas watch.

[Anonymous No.15791027]

>>15791013
That is all completely meaningless nonsense though, obviously you don't buy the fuckin thing if you don't like the way it looks. Some of their rolex homages are decent for the price? uh, no, like most of their watches are if you do wait it out on them, it's just a lot of steel/ complications/ coatings/ etc. bullshit for the $.

No one has to like them but it's this annoying thing you see where everyone skirts around whether they are objectively "bad" for $$$, they hide behind snide comments on appearance and then harp on MSRP until they can get to 10 minutes and monetize the video. There is just a severe disconnect and it's paper thin arguments against them, especially because when they release shit like the 1953 and sell out immediately from every "enthusiast" buying them

[Anonymous No.15791031]

>>15791023
If by restore you mean fix the movement and maybe replace the crystal then go for it. Leave the hands, dial, & case alone.

[Anonymous No.15791033]

Has anyone purchased from Ippo Japan Watch?

[Anonymous No.15791035]

>>15791027
And then they are doing shit like this preorder in europe. I'm guessing to gauge how many people want their vintage designs. If they start cranking more 40mm vintage designs after seeing the 1953 do so well then a lot of people are going to be doing more then just the typical "prodivers are ok" stance and eating their words. Be ahead of the curve, get a 78mm spongebob watch

[Anonymous No.15791054]

>>15791010
jebus

[Anonymous No.15791065]

>>15791023
I would get functional repairs done to the movement and getting that seconds hand reattached. Wouldn't do any cosmetic restoration though.

[Anonymous No.15791082]

>>15790494
So your a jew, all becomes clear, you shit posting that explorer every thread, I'm so rich, I could just about scramble 6k together to buy baby first Rolex.

[Anonymous No.15791084]

>>15790494
small wooden bead bracelet sometimes

[Anonymous No.15791085]

>want to start a watch collection with at least 6 watches so I can be a watch guy and have expensive watches that go with everything
>buy an Edifice
>doesn't seem to make sense to me to buy anything else at this point
Saved me $50k that I don't have.

[Anonymous No.15791089]

>>15791031
>>15791065
Basically just get minimum it needs to work again. Im really into antiques and like to leave stuff as original as possible.

[Anonymous No.15791095]

>>15791085
Which edifice did you get?

[Anonymous No.15791097]

>>15791095
none, get a forester

[Anonymous No.15791098]

>>15791097
na get an oceanus

[Anonymous No.15791102]

>>15791098
seriously, what's the deal with ocean anii? The lineage line look nicer, the g shocks are better tools, and the forester is King of the jungle. What's the selling point for anus besides the name?

[Anonymous No.15791104]

>>15789984
I unironically think this is cool. Would cop if it were cheap. I like how you can see the quartz movements arranged around the automatic.

[Anonymous No.15791106]

[Anonymous No.15791108]

>>15791102
External finishing

[Anonymous No.15791110]

>>15791106
this watch is gay, just get a 5600 you limp wrist faggot

[Anonymous No.15791113]

The thing is, if you don't care about some of the features it's a beautiful watch. Easy to read and with the time calibration radio that gives you the right time automatically (awesome). Never needs a battery.
But some of the features are REALLY FRUSTRATING. For example:
1. Neo-brite luminous hands and markers- The markers are OK but the hands are almost impossible to see in the dark. You keep thinking how Casio can make a watch with so much technology and is incapable of making a hand that glows (one can almost laugh at this).
2. The alarm should came with an hearing aid. You cannot imagine how low it is. At first I thought it was broken because I couldn't hear a thing...until I put it like 5 inches from ear.
3. This one you won't believe. Let's say you are traveling to Hong Kong. And you need an alarm to wake you up. Your watch is naturally with the Hong Kong time, but you'll have to set the alarm accordingly to your home time. So you will need to guess what time would be in your city at the time you want to wake up in Hong Kong (LOL).
4. You can swap from a city in the world time to you "home" city. But to go back to the "world city" you will have to press the bottom several times. This a pain because for those who travel, you usually want to see the time in your city and come right back to the city were you are.
5. The cities are written is a very small and hard to see letters.
6. I think it should have the day of the week, because if you travel to distance places sometimes you get completely lost.
So, until Casio fix these annoying things I wouldn't recommend it...

[Anonymous No.15791114]

>>15791108
is it solar? 200m?

[Anonymous No.15791116]

>>15791108
>>15791113
it does look nice, i'll give it that. I just never got teh features, they seem plain for being flagship watches

[Anonymous No.15791120]

>>15791114
The Casio Oceanus OCW-S100-1AJF is a 39mm, 10.7mm thick, 100m solar powered watch, with a proprietary bracelet.

[Anonymous No.15791122]

>>15791102
>The lineage line look nicer
???
Are there some JDM lineage models i don't know about? The cheap ani-digi lineage models look like ass.

[Anonymous No.15791126]

>>15791110
I have one, and no the baby g is better on wrist, and also better then a mini

[Anonymous No.15791137]

>>15791126
can you change the bezel to an aftermarket one that doesn't say "baby g" on it?

[Anonymous No.15791144]

>>15791137
Nope, you can take the paint off, or you can stop being a pussy. Absolutely no one is reading the text on your watch.

[Anonymous No.15791152]

>>15791137
They actually just released a series of metal bezel models that are smaller than the 5600 and don't say Baby-G
Most of them are gold colored but you might like the silver one.
GM-S5600-1

[Anonymous No.15791162]

>>15791152
they look like the 5600bb i have, i'm not the biggest fan of the metal cases though, kind of defeats the purpose of it being a beater

[Anonymous No.15791165]

>>15791137
literally why do you care, who gives a fuck

[Anonymous No.15791166]

>>15790967
untrue
the basic bitch 5600 only has an hour chrono, the chadifice has a full fat 12 hour totalizer. and it can do math.

[Anonymous No.15791168]

How much do I have to spend to get a decent, sub 40mm auto on a wearable bracelet? All the AliExpress specials are either ugly or too big. Considering an Islander 38mm diver right now, it's around 300. I want an everyday watch that's worth taking care of.

[Anonymous No.15791172]

>>15791168
Islanders are nice. It's basically the same watch you'd end up with if you fully upgraded a Seiko SKX007/SKX009 with all of the usual suspects. Hacking and hand-winding movement, sapphire crystal, fully lumed ceramic bezel insert. Great watches for the money. Personally I'm not wild on the looks but I'd wear one.

[Anonymous No.15791176]

>>15791166
>24h chrono
>200m WR
>shock resistant
>countdown timer
>5 alarms
>world time
>electroluminescence backlight
M O G G E D

[Anonymous No.15791214]

>>15791027
Except the MSRP shit is literally QVC marketing tactics, you don't see actual watch makers doing shit like this. Even casio wouldn't tell you an f91w usually retails at 100 to sell you one for 10. Their original designs are objectively shit because 99 percent of humans can not even fit a 50mm watch.

[Anonymous No.15791219]

is this effay or what
pre crisis spanish? brand, swiss movement
mother of pearl blue dial

[Anonymous No.15791224]

>>15791219
36mm, 43 L2L, 11.5 T
17 jewel handwind
$180

[Anonymous No.15791257]

>>15791168
>Islander 38mm
literally a fake seiko skx007

[Anonymous No.15791261]

>>15791257
Eh, you can say fake, but realistically it's made up of entirely upgrade parts that people would mod an SKX with anyways. Plus they don't make the SKX anymore, it's discontinued.

[Anonymous No.15791263]

>>15791257
>fake!!!
can you stop using terms that you dont know what they mean
its a homage, theres a very clear distinction
also, fuck seiko

[Anonymous No.15791266]

>>15791263
Frankly if the SKX were still being produced I think I *would* consider it a fake. Even things like those Pagani Design watches, sure it doesn't have a crown or say Rolex, but it's a lot more than an homage or "inspired by", it's a 1:1 copy with a different logo.

[Anonymous No.15791271]

>>15791214
Yeah, and it's really unfortunate and sad.
But that doesn't fucking matter when you are holding it in the hand and you only pay ____.
It's always the only negative followed by by endless insults on how they look. Which is fine but after you see so many videos you notice the blatant double standard and how they throw any semblance of objectivity out the window.

[Anonymous No.15791311]

>>15791168
A wearable bracelet really limits your options, an islander really is one of you best options. I've been looking for the same size/specs and there isn't much out there. I'm guessing you don't like the new san martin vintage diver? That's what i ended up getting but the bracelet is pretty uninspiring

[Anonymous No.15791314]

>>15791214
Also, their watches fit on the wrist, they all curve or have some harsh drop that grips the wrist. You can think they look dumb but this is just false

[Anonymous No.15791327]

Tasty
https://www.esquire.com/uk/watches/a34963728/jaeger-lecoultre-launches-a-year-of-reverso/

[Anonymous No.15791346]

>>15791266
>1:1 copy
>doesnt have the same dimensions or movement

then its not a 1:1 copy
a pagani is 0.003% the cost of the original
thats like saying all work boots other than Timberland is a fake or all jeans other than a Levis is a fake

> Homage watches should not be confused with fakes or replicas. Their builders don’t try to pass them off as the real things, or (illegally) put the names of the originals on their dials. Rather, homage watches provide more affordable versions of timepieces that would otherwise be forever out of the majority of watch buyers’ price range. But while legions of fans gratefully purchase these ersatz Grail timepieces, homages also have their detractors — those who write them off as mere derivative copies that don’t deserve attention.
>There are plenty of other homages, from Steinhart’s take on the “MilSub” to the modified Seiko “Fifty Five Fathoms”, that ape the real things, and others that are more inspired by original designs, like the cushion-cased Panerai-like watches of Magrette or the Bremont-esque Trident of Christopher Ward, the latter of which is an homage to a modern watch rather than a vintage. Can these watch companies be faulted for selling such obviously unoriginal timepieces? After all, they’re not purporting to be the real things.
>In fact, homage watches are not a new phenomenon. Look back as far as the 1940s and you find the Hamilton Otis, a more humble version of the Art Deco classic Jaeger-LeCoultre Reverso. Not long after the Submariner came on the scene, other watches mimicked its iconic design, from bezel markings to Mercedes handset. Rolex even created a separate company, Tudor, to sell watches that resembled their Rolex counterparts in every way other than a logo and a lesser movement inside. If a company builds homages to its own watches, do we call them homages?

[Anonymous No.15791349]

>>15791346
literally a JLC lmao

[Anonymous No.15791350]

>>15791346

[Anonymous No.15791357]

>>15791261
imagine missing out on owning one of the best watches in history

[Anonymous No.15791361]

>>15791357
>imagine missing out on owning one of the best watches in history
that would be the alpinist, not the skx

[Anonymous No.15791362]

>>15791346
>>15791350
Yeah, and I take at least slight issues with pretty much all of those watches named. Seiko shouldn't have a Tank watch or a Fifty Fathoms, Hamilton shouldn't have a Reverso, I'd never buy either of these watches because I don't want to support that sort of business model. People like to give other examples of more reputable companies doing the same same scummy things and thinking it makes it better but it doesn't. You want to see an homage watch?

The comparison of work boots doesn't fit either, they don't all look the same. That would be more of an argument of saying that no company besides Blancpain should make a dive watch. No, the other companies just shouldn't make one that looks exactly like a Fifty Fathoms. To me an homage shouldn't steal the entire style of another watch, it should be inspired by it. Put a cyclops on a watch, put a mercedes hour hand on a watch, maybe not at the same time, and maybe use a different case shape.

I at the very least understand that it's unattainable for a lot of people and they just like the style and don't care about the movement or the brand, but the fact is the style took man hours, it took design. You're still being a fucking scumlord.

[Anonymous No.15791364]

>>15791362
there wouldn't be a demand for homages if a daytona didnt cost like $35,000

i doubt rolex even cares, it probably even helps their allure

[Anonymous No.15791368]

>>15791364
Like I said I do understand that people just like a watch for looks and sometimes they're unattainable amounts of money, but personally I'd rather buy something with at least *some* originality that didn't look as cool than just pay another company to rip somebody off. I just sort of lose respect for those who do. I'd be more excited to see somebody buy a real Timex than an "homage" to a Rolex.

[Anonymous No.15791382]

>>15791362
>work boots doesn't fit either, they don't all look the same.
there are plenty, truckloads of mustard yellow fashion work boots that look like timbs but arent

it'll be somewhat understandable for a complex design like a RM. But many watches are rather simple. So nobody can make a 38mm field watch in a round case with arabic numerals and traditional cathedral hands without bulova(?) suing them? its a rabbithole not even watch companies themselves want to go down into. You'll run out of literations for design or end up with "extremely similar but not quite" designs that might as well be homages that exist now. The pagani daytona doesnt even look exactly like a modern rolex daytona, the bezel and casing is different.

[Anonymous No.15791387]

>>15791382
I did notice a couple small differences when I was looking. The red text that would say "Daytona" is slightly lower on the dial, the bezel insert says "tachymeter" instead of "units per hour" and also doesn't use exactly the same triangle markings. It's still just too close. And it's not like they have one, they have a Submariner, a Daytona, a Batman GMT Master, a Yachtmaster, a Panerai, a Datejust, a Seamster.

The majority of their watches are dangerously close "homages", I just can't in good conscious support a company like that.

[Anonymous No.15791400]

>>15791387
its down to personal pref, im not going to shed tears over rolex due to their own bullshit practices

for me personally, as long as its clearly disguisable from the original its fine. Nobody is selling a pagani as a rolex, they are selling it as a pagani. It says pagani right front and centre. Its not even a mechanical watch.

[Anonymous No.15791404]

What's a good less expensive alternative to something like this? A nice simple design on a well-matching rubber strap, preferably under $1000, but I'd even take up to $2000 as recommendations.

[Anonymous No.15791420]

Ordered this piece of shit when I shattered the face of my Oriental on the corner of a countertop for the second time in 2 years.

Who else has gone full poorfag here?

[Anonymous No.15791427]

>>15791420
I got a new job working around a lot of electrical stuff so now I wear a Casio a700 most of the time

[Anonymous No.15791429]

>>15791420
>I shattered the face of my Oriental on the corner of a countertop for the second time in 2 years.
how does this even happen
are you wearing the watch facing down.....?

[Anonymous No.15791432]

>>15789297
>about how long ago was your purchase?
Seven years ago
Where the fuck time go

[Anonymous No.15791434]

>>15791429
I'm guessing they were walking and their arm was swinging and it smacked the corner, not while they were seated or something.

[Anonymous No.15791435]

hello lads

[Anonymous No.15791436]

>>15791435
Shave your arm.

[Anonymous No.15791438]

>>15791436
>shaving arm hair
yikes
guys shouldnt shave anything, thats gay af
unless they are cute twinks with a delicious bubble butt
then please go ahead

[Anonymous No.15791444]

>>15790020
First watch in space was a Pobeda strapped to the space dog Chernushka. They claimed the scientist who did it unauthorized wanted to see if it would work in space, possibly settle a bet, but he denied that saying he knew it would.

Watches can be made better for space, but there are no basic requirements beyond being a suitably reliable watch, which NASA determined the Speedmaster was from testing. One later failed with its crystal flying off in the vacuum though, something easy to prevent had it been purpose-built, so realistically there's nothing special about it.

[Anonymous No.15791450]

>>15791438
>unless they are cute twinks with a delicious bubble butt
So, shave your arm.

[Anonymous No.15791462]

>>15791361
>alpinist

[Anonymous No.15791464]

>>15791404
boldr expedition

[Anonymous No.15791467]

>>15791435
how thick is that watch?

[Anonymous No.15791479]

>>15791467
15,5 w/crystal, but the crystal is like 3,5mm thick.
i don't notice it at al. at 38,5mm and 45 lug to lug it's perfect.

[Anonymous No.15791480]

>>15791435
chrono hour hand is misaligned

[Anonymous No.15791503]

why are these niggas so charming?

[Anonymous No.15791525]

>>15791435
Looks good anon!

[Anonymous No.15791544]

>>15791503
It's the luxury of the subtlety softer bracelet and bezel on the 5000-1jf combined with the luxury of the screwed caseback and the decadence of spending $250 on a g-shock that's heavier and otherwise has identical features to the $100 5610 series.

[Anonymous No.15791549]

>>15791168
I recently bought an Invicta Pro Diver for my uncle w a jubilee bracelet and I'm not going to lie, the shits are pretty nice

[Anonymous No.15791606]

>>15791137
no one cares, but lurk chinese websites that sell replacement cases/straps, they probably sell them without the baby print

[Anonymous No.15791607]

>>15791479
>15.5mm
She too thicc man

[Anonymous No.15791705]

Why did nobody tell me that Oris made the Alpinist good?

[Anonymous No.15791721]

>>15791705
I want to like Oris but their logo is mallwatch tier

[Anonymous No.15791725]

these things are pretty cool looking

[Anonymous No.15791726]

>>15791725
They need another layer of lume on the hands and the one color colorways are terrible. The all black one you posted is basically unreadable.

[Anonymous No.15791727]

>>15791721
> buy the watch for the logo
bruh

[Anonymous No.15791728]

Post watches with this dial aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.15791729]

>>15791727
R O L E X

[Anonymous No.15791731]

>>15791727
It's not aesthetic and looks cheap

[Anonymous No.15791733]

>>15791729
OYSTER PERPETUAL
SUBMARINER
1000 ft = 300 m
SUPERLATIVE CHRONOMETER
OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED
SEVEN DAYS A WEEK
WET ASS OYSTER CASE
MAKES YOUR SEAMASTER WEAK

[Anonymous No.15791738]

>>15791705
>Why did nobody tell me that Oris made the Alpinist good?
how long have you been away because anons here were on-and-off jizzing over this watch for months already
its one of the nicest looking watches sub $3000

[Anonymous No.15791742]

>>15791731
Gotta agree.
This is obviously a vintage-inspired watch, they could've changed the logo a little.

[Anonymous No.15791747]

>>15791731
>It's not aesthetic and looks cheap
wrong
>>15791742
>>15791721
gonna disagree
tryhard cursive font along with the vintage inspired design would be too much and make the watch cringey
right now its a good balance of 75% old and 25% modern

[Anonymous No.15791761]

Thinking about getting one of these or should I get something else?

[Anonymous No.15791764]

>>15791761
You could consider a Boldr Venture

[Anonymous No.15791765]

>>15791761
Tritium lume is based

[Anonymous No.15791769]

>>15791224
that's a handsome watch

[Anonymous No.15791770]

>>15791761
theres nothing much similar i think
you could consider bertucci, their tritium field watches come in steel/titanium but at 44/45mm and $150/$200 more. Marathon as a brand has much more clout with actual military use though

if you just want a tritium quartz watch aliexpress has those in steel at $100

[Anonymous No.15791773]

>>15791362
>You're still being a fucking scumlord
imagine getting this mad about the business practices of watch companies, of all things

[Anonymous No.15791778]

>>15791420
I work in a kitchen and have been wearing a Weekender since the poorfag guide was still relatively new. great watch took exceptional abuse.
on prime day the Citizen bm8180 was less than half off so I upgraded. more respectable but still poorfag beater, especially at $80.

[Anonymous No.15791795]

>>15791607
>19mm

[Anonymous No.15791808]

Can someone redpill me on enamel dials? I’ve been looking at pictures but having a damned hard time seeing a difference, probably because of photo quality. Is enamel a meme or not?

People seem reverent whenever an enamel dial comes out but I have no idea why.

[Anonymous No.15791812]

>>15791808
Enamel dials are hard to make because they are so thin and could break while firing in the kiln and come out looking like shit anyway at which point it has to be thrown out. It's some soul of the artisan shit. They also stay crisp and pristine forever while other dials will patina with age and get that retarded tropical look.

[Anonymous No.15791817]

>>15791728
What exactly are you looking for, black dials, concentric circles, or something with the numerals?

[Anonymous No.15791819]

>>15791808
They can't be machine produced. A lot of skilled manual labour is required.

>>15791812
I believe you are thinking of porcelain which breaks easily and is even harder to produce than enamel. However enamel coloring is prone to errors.

[Anonymous No.15791827]

>>15791819
>>15791812
What about this watch? It’s the SPB161. Seiko calls it an enamel dial but it was ~$1500 when it released. Is it not true enamel, or did they find a way to mass produce it?

Reading about it more it seems there are examples of “true” enamel dials (“grand feu”) and many imitators but it’s hard to differentiate.

[Anonymous No.15791832]

>>15791808
Cloisonne enamel is extremely time consuming and delicate to make
its basically painting + metalwork+ glassmaking all rolled into one and theres no room for mistakes

>>15791819
>They can't be machine produced.
recently there was a Vario trench watch with an enamel dial at only $300. So either the chinese found a way to print/mass produce enamel or it isnt true enamel (unlikely). Or It could be that its just plain enamel glass with printed numerals.
Even before that there was that Seiko enamel at $1000.

[Anonymous No.15791840]

>>15791432
different guy here.
so I was searching around and on WUS someone mentioned that meihaulu means plum blossom but also deer, so the logo/dial/name is a double entendre.
from there, another search showed this text:
>The Formosan sika deer has similar white spots to the plum blossom, which helps them stay...
clicking the link yielded a deadlink, but I think we may deduce that the deer was named after the flower because their spots look like plum blossoms, and the final word in the sentence was probably "camouflage" or similar -- the spots helped them blend in with the plum bushes and deceive predators.
it would really help if the page would load but that seems to be the drift of it.

[Anonymous No.15791846]

>>15791832
> Vario trench watch
> State of the art modern enamel
That sounds like it isn't real vitreous enamel and they are doing something funky.

[Anonymous No.15791857]

>>15791827
They could automated things like dial cutting and printing but I'm not sure about the firing.

Grand feu enamel is a multi-step process and requires upto 8 separate firings to make each of which can spoil. That is why its a lot more expensive.

[Anonymous No.15791859]

>>15791857
fuck off Tim

[Anonymous No.15791867]

>>15791846
well heres a close up
i think its a plain enamel glass disc (Grand Feu?) with numerals printed on, like how you would print graphics onto a porcelain mug.
if anOrdain can offer their vitreous enamel at $1200, with much lower labour costs in the mainland it would seem achievable.

[Anonymous No.15791884]

>>15791859
Thanks for comparing me to the master.

>>15791867
Yeah material costs are nothing for enamel, it's all labour. The fact the second dial is cut into the main dial is odd. That is a very difficult thing to do in real enamel and not crack it. It is curious for $300. I'd guess it could be lacquer rather than true enamel.

[Anonymous No.15791887]

>>15791721
ORIS boss:
>"make us a good logo"
ORIS designer (son of boss)
>"on it!"
>[selects helvetica bold from font menu]
>[types ORIS]
>[save file]
>[send file in email to dad]
>total elapsed time: 1 minute 43 seconds
>"designer" goes back to playing video games all day

[Anonymous No.15791919]

>>15791887
the virgin Garamond fears the chad Helvetica

>>15791884
couldnt the base metal plate or whatever be precut before the enamel is done on top? so you dont have to cut through glass, you just have to remove the mold or whatever. Im not sure either. Its a curious choice to opt for enamel since Vario is a budget microbrand and nobody would have cared in the slightest if they used a normal dial. The enamel factor wasnt massively emphasised in the marketing as well.

[Anonymous No.15791923]

>>15791311
At what price tier do bracelets from major manufacturers start getting good? Doesn't have to be a diver.

[Anonymous No.15791924]

>>15791005

Wrists might swell up during his travels.

[Anonymous No.15791929]

>>15791108

I like the cleaner designs. Large numbers make them look tacky

[Anonymous No.15791932]

>>15791924
Peoples faces do puff up in space, I don't know about wrists though.

[Anonymous No.15791937]

>>15791257
You're a cuck to a shitty chink brand

[Anonymous No.15791957]

>>15791937
There’s nothing wrong with Seiko. In fact they’re one of the least morally reprehensible watch brands around.

[Anonymous No.15791961]

>>15790361
>san martin nautilus
Never heard of them, thanks. Very nice watch and would be an added benefit it being new as opposed to a second hand seiko. There's a difference of 140$ in the price of movement in that watch, would you have any idea if the more expensive movement would be worth it?

[Anonymous No.15791969]

>>15791961
Not that guy, but I have it with the cheap Chinese movement. It works fine. I only had to open it up and fix the rubber ring in place since it was blocking the rotor, but it runs good now, a handful seconds fast per day.

[Anonymous No.15791971]

Death to Tim
May he forever be forced to only wear Invictas

[Anonymous No.15791980]

Speedy Tuesday

[Anonymous No.15791988]

>>15790532
that brand makes me vomit. Would rather wear Casio.

[Anonymous No.15791991]

>>15791961
both SW200 and PT5000 are clones of the ETA2824, just that the former is "swiss made" (or rather, swiss assembled i guess). They are functionally the same.

>Just like Sellita has been doing with the SW200 for years, HK Precision Technology has created their PT5000 movement based on an already proven formula.
>The only problem with the ETA 2824 now is supply, and that's where companies like Sellita and HKPT come in. For the past decade or so ETA has been slowing down the production of their movements with the goal to eventually decrease or even stop supplying outside of Swatch group (Who they are owned by). This has created an opening for other companies to clone the design and continue the supply of this incredible movement to the rest of the industry, since the design is so old now that it is no longer protected by any sort of patent.
>In a bid to challenge the perception of Chinese made movements being unreliable and inaccurate, HKPT brought their highest grade of PT5000 to Glashutte in Germany to have it's accuracy reviewed by the Chronometer Observatory (They couldn't get this done at COSC; the worlds best-known accuracy certificate system, as they only test Swiss movements). According to the China Horologe Association, the standard set by the Chronometer Observatory at Glashutte is the world's most rigid. The observatory has seven testing categories, and only allows a mechanical watch a deviation "ranging from minus 3.8 seconds to plus 5.8 seconds within a day"
>This movement then went on to be China's first-ever watch movement to reach chronometer certification.
https://www.watchgecko.com/what-is-the-pt5000-watch-movement/

[Anonymous No.15791992]

>>15791980
POOPA

[Anonymous No.15791996]

>>15791923
citizen attesa has based titanium bracelet with milled clasp and quick adjust clasp, cheapest one is ~300$. It's quartz obviously
>>15791980
based poopa

[Anonymous No.15792025]

I like the engraved R O L E X R O L E X R O L E X on the modern refs

[Anonymous No.15792070]

>>15792025
Hmm. I can't think of any other obvious anti-forgery methods used on other watches.

[Anonymous No.15792075]

>>15791919
>couldnt the base metal plate or whatever be precut before the enamel is done on top?
it would have to be. the dial would be cut/stamped/whatever by the regular machinery out of whatever metal and then surfaced, fluxed, glass powder applied, and then fired. you couldn't do a whole sheet and then cut out dials, it would ruin them.
full disclosure: I'm going by what I learned doing copper enamel arts and craft projects at summer camp so obviously that's basic af but that's the oversimplified process IMO.

[Anonymous No.15792081]

>>15791991
Sellita used to make movements for ETA until 2003. Anyone know the history of what happened between them and why they split?

[Anonymous No.15792089]

>>15791996
That bracelet looks nice.

[Anonymous No.15792095]

>>15791996
The cheaper $300 attesa's bracelets aren't nearly as nice as the one in your pic. The cheaper ones all look like they have single link bracelets instead of 3-link.

[Anonymous No.15792096]

>>15791991
Some anon got a san martin watch with that PT5000 and the result was bad, the watch apparently stopped at night.

[Anonymous No.15792105]

>>15792096
see
>>15791969

it wasnt the movement it was the O ring

[Anonymous No.15792111]

>people still get subs when fifty fathoms exist

[Anonymous No.15792125]

>>15792111
>45mm
That's gonna be a no from me dawg.

[Anonymous No.15792135]

>>15792111
Nice date position

[Anonymous No.15792138]

>>15792125
It goes over the wetsuit, so no problem.

[Anonymous No.15792141]

>>15792111
it reminds me too much of a swim ring/lifesaver for some reason

[Anonymous No.15792144]

>>15792111
>>15792125
It not just the case size. That fucker is thicc.

[Anonymous No.15792148]

>>15792141
I really dislike those glossy bezels, look like they are made from candy.

[Anonymous No.15792176]

[Anonymous No.15792185]

What's some good yema style alts, fuck the french

[Anonymous No.15792195]

>>15792185
Which Yema? If you want a retro looking pilot chrono, Guinand.

[Anonymous No.15792202]

>>15792199
>>15792199
>>15792199
New thread

[Anonymous No.15792544]

>>15792135
4.30 date autist strikes again

[Anonymous No.15792628]

How to tell if a Raketa Copernic is legit and not a fake/Frankenwatch

[Anonymous No.15794024]

would someone point me towards a gold-colored aftermarket steel bracelet, compatible with my first Seiko 5 that I just purchased?

a few guys at watch stores downtown said there are no compatible aftermarket bands because the strap is a 'special size' unique to seiko. i don't believe them but haven't had luck with google yet

[Anonymous No.15794033]

>>15794024
also i want the band to be flexible

[Anonymous No.15794049]

>>15794033
>>15794024

http://www.watchsleuth.com/seiko5finder/search/?MOD=SNKA10

ah well, it's listed here that the band is difficult / impossible to replace, oh well, so much for modability

[Anonymous No.15794080]

>>15792628
compare it side by side to a real one is the easiest way

find a local jeweler who owns a real one.