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>matrix 4 coming out soon
>cyberpunk, vaporwave, emo and scene are all becoming more and more mainstream in recent years
>masks
>bright, neon colors juxtaposed against gothic clothing, very reminiscent of some e-girl fits
>billie eilish
>brightly-colored dreads are trendy
>can easily be rebranded as a sort of post-apocalyptic look/"cyberpunk but with COVID"
if i were a celebrity or fashion designer i'd jump on this ship ASAP

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when i scratch the fold under my penor it stinks

>> No.15736622

>>15736613
that's more rave and less cybergoth
i still dig it, but i don't see it coming back anytime soon. i'm not saying people will be dressing the same way they did back in 2002, but a more wearable and casual version of cybergoth would def be a hit

>> No.15736629

>>15736622
ok cool
have you ever seen a real boob?

>> No.15736632

>>15736610
>matrix 4
Literally a travesty
>cyberpunk, vaporwave emo and scene more mainstream
Cyberpunk because of the game, but this is only a very specific type so if anything it's bad for cyberpunk. Vaporwave is not cyberpunk and far from mainstream, you're probably mistaking it for synthwave like most.
>masks
Will disappear within a year.
>bright neon colors
Literally where?
>billie eilish
Fuck off.
>brightly colored dreads are trendy
Nowhere. Absolutely nowhere.

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>>15736632
i never said whether i like any of the things listed, i'm just saying now's the perfect time for someone to bank on this
>Will disappear within a year.
LMFAO
> Vaporwave is not cyberpunk and far from mainstream
it is though. maybe not the music itself but parts of the aesthetic have very much been adopted into the mainstream
>Nowhere. Absolutely nowhere.
>what is rap
>>15736629
yes
pic related

>> No.15736685

>>15736610
>matrix 4 coming out soon
WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY

>inb4 zoomers start dressing like trinity

>> No.15736690

>>15736632
agreed with all of this

>>15736647
you are out of touch and behind. neon coloured haired rappers and billy eilish are old fucking news by now.

>> No.15736694

>>15736690
billie's still relevant tf are you on. just because bad guy is old by now doesn't mean she's not influential or part of the cultural zeitgeist, same goes with rappers

>> No.15736697

>>15736685
More like trannyty

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It is indeed time for the big cybergoth uprising.

However.

YOU MAY NOT WEAR THE MASK UNLESS YOU ARE A CERTIFIED INDUSTRIAL DANCER WITH A DANCER NAME AND A DANCE CREW WITH A CUSTOM LOGO AND A YOUTUBE CHANNEL WHERE YOU UPLOAD DANCE VIDS AT LEAST ONE OF WHICH HAS TO BE OF YOU DANCING TO GRENDEL - SOILBLEED 2.0

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>>15736694
Totally relevant and totally not related to Bad Guy, right?

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>>15736768
>>15736694
>>15736647
>>15736610

Do NOT conflate Billie Eilish with Cybergoth culture. I will dislocate your skull with deadly kung fu moves passed down from Bio-Sektor down to X-Ferax and down to myself.

You will die, instantaneously.

>> No.15737599

Yeah but it should have more a thriftcore mutant punk vibe, because of upcoming economic collapse. Less polished and less hot topic.
What's that culture from the cyberpunk vidya?

>> No.15737622

>>15736610
Yeah in some form I think it could work. Eilish kinda jumped the shark.

I was listening back to some DnB and Electronica recently and found it super charming somehow.

>> No.15737625

>>15736610
I still listen to aggrotech and harsh electro, so yeah let's bring it back.

>> No.15738063

>>15736613
mf looks like he came out of Jet Set Radio

>> No.15738231

>>15736610
>matrix 4
didnt they fuck up the last 2 anyway? why bother

>> No.15738242

Witch house
glitch hop
more ascetically relatble to
internet wizard

more like death grips, little peep, ghostemane , young belial, and baby goth, and all the other tsundere goth chick rappers and rockers.

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>>15738242
WRONG
WRONG
WRONG

CYBERGOTH MUSIC IS AS FOLLOWS:

HARSH EBM

ELECTRO INDUSTRIAL

AGGROTECH

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>>15738338
OH AND ALSO CYBER METAL

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>>15738338
>>15738343
Let's face it, amigo: we're old and our music has gone up to the great neon blood rave in the sky. The best we can hope for is to have our fashion appropriated by flavor of the week zoomer rappists.

>> No.15738619

>>15738604
FUCK THAT

better dead than rapped

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>>15738604
No, let's make our own dance crew and stomp down the zoomers, are you anywhere near Paris?

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FORCE

>> No.15738644

>>15738642
doesn't look cybergoth to me

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>>15738619
>>15738623
As much as I would like to make a 30 year old boomer dance crew and stomp zoomers, I am too geographically isolated. The plandemic has given me plenty of opportunities to wear my goggles and respirator though.

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>>15738644

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>> No.15738653

>>15738642
>>15738651
What exactly am I looking at here?

>> No.15738654

>>15738651
ok the dude has it. Not the girl though

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V2A
V2A
V2A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyvMjgeh80Y

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new codex soon fellow Kabalites

>> No.15738724

>>15738648
yyyyup.

Xentrifuge now THAT was an act.

*sip*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzKPVpUhcfk

>> No.15738727

>>15738653
you are looking at MUTANTZ//REBIRTHCYBER-TRAPCREATOR GARGOYLE5GWIFICYBERLORD 20[OBEY][OBEY]99
soundcloud. com/leprosy2099/cyberchamber
check him out, he's fucking hilarious

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>>15738727
>trap

NO.

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>>15738735
retard

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>>15738737
STOP

>> No.15738973

>>15738724
Xenterfuge is great. Can't go wrong with the classics though. Psyclon9 and Combichrist.
*Siiiip*

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>>15738973

heh!

>> No.15739264

I hate that social media essentially killed subcultures.

>> No.15740391

>>15739150
Saved!

>> No.15740461

>>15736768
That's normal for a planetary hit to be scrutinized in the information era, especially when it's considered a new way of making hits, coz there was no such loner pop hit since fucking royals by lorde

But she would still be famous and have a grammy without it, and definetly was a part in the process of bringing back goth esthetics

>> No.15740463

>>15738231
No they didn't

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>> No.15742822

>>15738642
wow jelly janetty finally got a clue

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>>15736613

>> No.15743102

>>15736647
hentai proportions

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>> No.15743844

>>15739264
how so?

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I don't know about a full blown cybergoth revival, but it's definitely time for matrixcore.

>> No.15744046

>>15736610
The true redpill is that we're already living in a cyberpunk dystopia, we just aren't dressing like it yet.

>> No.15744324

>>15744046
This, except I am

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>> No.15745950

>>15744046
I've added a leather trenchcoat and a gasmask to my wardrobe.

>> No.15745955

>>15743999
Bout 5 years too late, my friends and I have been making fun of/making matrix style fits and music since 2016

>> No.15745989

>>15745955
I applaud you, but I am hoping for a broader resurgence beyond your autistic friends.

>> No.15745991

>>15738642
>>15738651
is that riff raff

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>> No.15746210

>>15736610
the fact that you rats value conformity over actual self expression is a mockery to all of those subcultures you're ripping off

>> No.15746254

>>15736610

cybergoth is dead, hyperpop ate it.

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>> No.15746311

>>15736610
>cybergoth
what about gothninja
raf simmons rick owens usually what i'm dressed in

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>> No.15746588

i mean, scene is back so yeah cybergoth will probably come back next year too

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>> No.15747116

>>15746311
too recent and played out
raf doesn't really do "ninja"
ricko only incidentally

>> No.15747298

>>15747116
Wanna know how i know you're a newfag?

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>>15746311
I sill do goofninja with my big ass scarves and floppy layering, but honestly goofninja is not viable, it's a very distinct look that could work if it was part of a bigger multi-media subculture, but it isn't.
There's no goofninja movies, no goofninja music or books or comics or whatever, it doesn't have a cultural anchor point. So the best you can do with it is use goof pieces to spice up whatever subculture you belong to

>> No.15747681

>>15746588
>scene is back
it isn't, fortunately

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>>15746254
true

>> No.15748553

>>15736610
Only if EBM gets more attention, which will never happen

>> No.15749271

GET ME HARD AND GET ME FAST
GET ME HARD AND GET ME FAST
GET ME HARD AND GET ME FAST
GET ME HARD AND
HIT ME HARD
HIT ME FAST

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>> No.15749525

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e4tR_0FRp4

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>> No.15753384

>>15736610
if you need to use the word "unironically", the answer is no

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>> No.15758328

it never left. aspects of it such as techwear, neon dyed hair, custom computer peripherals, silver hardware, exaggerated boots, distressed clothing have all been updated

>> No.15758526

>brightly-colored dreads are trendy

Hardly. I think we may see some specks of it mixed in with the larger tiktok-goth/nu-goth/whatever-goth scene if anything, with a lot more monochrome.

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>> No.15758672

>>15736610
Matrix 2-3 = a dead horse
Matrix 4 = sad

>> No.15758834

>>15744046
if you aren't wearing tripp pants, new rocks, leather jackets and gasmasks already it's your fault tbqh desu senpai

>> No.15758839

>>15758834
>gasmasks

Dust masks, fren

>> No.15759260

>>15758839
>Dust masks
ngmi

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>> No.15760733

>>15736610
We saw GOT massively influence the fashion industry, if designers are similarly influenced by cyberpunk then sure.

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>> No.15760989

>cybergoth
>vaporwave
wat

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>>15760989
Zoomers

>> No.15761360

What's the difference between cybergoth and rivethead?

>> No.15761382

>>15761360
Riverhead fashion is typically more grungy, monochrome, and military inspired, while cybergoth has heavy raver influence.

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>>15761360
Rivethead

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>>15761360

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>> No.15761805

>>15760733
Did we?

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I mean I’ve always been a sucker for chunky goth shoes/boots
And with masks becoming a necessity I don’t hate the notion.

>> No.15762061

>>15762058
goth shoes are pointy not chunky

>> No.15762065

>>15762061
I mean I own both but my go to is Mary Janes for everyday wear.
I feel like exaggerated shapes in general go well with alt looks.

>> No.15762103

>>15762065
yeah well I have an exaggerated shape

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>>15736610
anon no sane person will dress like this ever. i cant imagine how much they had to pay her

>> No.15762133

>>15761360
Neon colors. That's your answer!

Seriously though, if you mean visually it's pretty obvious. Musically the rivethead scene has lots of aggrotech.

But most teens who first get into the scene tend to wear black boots, pants, jacket or whatever and visually fit into the rivethead aesthetic even if they do not listen to the music.

Even a metal head in black pants, leather jacket and chains can cross over into a rivethead look so I would really say rivethead is some kind of base standard in goth, especially those new to the scene before they branch out into other areas such as fangs and a pirate shirt.

>> No.15762141

>>15762061
Winkle pickers are trad goth wear; not all goth wear. Chunky footwear is 10 x more common overall in the goth scene than pointy winkle pickers.

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>> No.15762382

>>15762141
what you call trad goth is goth
what you call goth is mallgoth

>> No.15762394

>>15762382
I mean goth got so big it kinda split into subsections and “trad goth” is what was originally the roots of goth.

Also mallgoth isn’t the only goth associated with chunky shoes? Chunky shoes are pretty common in more modern takes of goth. Not to mention most mallgoths are still wearing converse

>> No.15762395

>>15762394
there aren't any modern takes on goth

>> No.15762412

>>15762395
Ok I mean this in no offence but is it safe to assume your a Gen X?
If so ya, trad goth/original goth was absolutely the best goth and I get it’s hard to see younger generations cherry pick elements from it and bastardize a fashion/lifestyle you clearly care a lot about, but unfortunately like literally everything else in life this just happens. Musics a great example of it. Like metal, when I think metal I think like true Norwegian black metal, but when I say metal my younger siblings think like that “bullet from my valentine” garbage. And well it is trash, and not as good as it’s predecessor, it is technically by today’s standards metal. Same for goth, goth has been pulled apart and altered by younger generations and transformed into many substyles, many that won’t ever do it justice, but they are under today’s understanding of the word “goth”

>> No.15762414

>>15762412
Today's standards are the result of ignorance and misinformation, not the result of a conscious effort to create continuity, they are not something to take into account.

BFMV is emocore

>> No.15762419

>>15762382
>>15762395
Le elitist attitude that everyone in the scene hates.

I've seen this shit in the 90s before you were even born. Goth has its roots in the punk movement and is primarily music based but the aesthetic of the scene has many sub genres with the "traditional goth" being only a part of it. "Mallgoth" is totally different and can be akin to babybats, but the aesthetic is certainly not rivetheads or cybergoths etc.

But even that is too simplistic because goth is not a uniform which you are purporting it to be. This is why simply wearing a "goth uniform" is not goth, and it's why these poseurs stick out so badly at any event.

In short: This means you. You'd be laughed out of a venue.

"Trad goths" for the most part will even refer to themselves as trad if asked. You're equating for an example a 15 year old who dresses in the 80s goth aesthetic as some true pure form of goth and that's what makes them so. Which tells me you have zero idea what goth is really about.

Maybe read a little more if you're interested? Best of luck.

>>15762394
>Also mallgoth isn’t the only goth associated with chunky shoes?

Dude. Even in the 80s goth evolved from punk which meant chunky boots. You're replying to someone who understands nothing of the gothic subculture.

>> No.15762420

>>15762414
Ya, I mean I can’t completely argue, but I also think with every generation there’s a lot of bad and some slivers of good coming from younger people who do generally care and want to explore the things of the past.

>> No.15762422

I’m not going to lie I’m really enjoying this discussion of the subsections of goth.

Good thread

>> No.15762428

>>15762412
Most of the adult goths from the 90s were goth teens in the 80s and listened to and were influenced by the bands, they are simply a changing continuation of it and not some random kids who just turned up a decade later and picked parts of it.

This is how different roots grew and sub genres evolved. The very thing that happened for goth to come into reality after evolving from punk!

To say a certain sub genre of goth is not true goth is like saying true goth is not true goth because it is punk.

It's stupid.

>> No.15762444

>heh, you're speaking english
>what you call english is french/german derived
>heh like you can't claim to speak english
>i speak a language derived from french/german

This is how retards sound when they say only 80s goth is "real goth" and the look that goes with it and no other sub genres exist.

They think only music from 1980 to 1990 and the clothing style then can only be goth.

This is called retarded elitism and people must post their pic to speak such shit because guess what? They won't look like that. We already know it. So if they don't look like that, how can they speak on such matters? By their own standards, they can not.

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If you really want to show the fools up and embarrass them, point out to them if only the original goth look with pointy boots is true goth then why does one of the biggest goth bands of all time look like this?

Lol..

Uh... oh.. now what?

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Oh wait, this is the only "true goth" aesthetic, r-right?

Ah no, these are new romantics.

Hence the whole hurr durr goth is only and can only be a set uniform isn't reality and it's what uneducated teenage poseurs say.

It's like the teenage dope heads who think the 80s were soaked in neon lights on every street corner.

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Hurr I am going to go up to the sisters of mercy and tell them they know nothing of goth and are not goth because they don't dress in a certain way!! durr!!

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Noo!! Fields of the Nephilim are NOT GOTH!! They are dressed WRONG!! noo!!!

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NOO THE CURE ARE NOT GOTH!! Are those white sneakers and not super duper leather pointy gothy boots?

OMG MALLGOTHS!!

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GOTHS DO NOT WEAR CHUNKY BOOTS!!

ROBERT SMITH IS A TEENAGE MALLGOTH WHO KNOWS NOTHING OF THE GOTHIC SUBCULTURE!!

>> No.15762521

Cecil calm down, the trad goth elitist is gone.

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>>15762521
Lol of course they have because they would look so stupid right now. They always do that. Remain anon, hide in the shadows, post their shit and run when actual reality pops up.

It just triggers me because they are likely some 18 year old non-goth dweeb in their room and the things they post could stop real people with an interest and stagnate things.

>> No.15763254

>>15762530
Making good things stagnate is inherently a better idea than making them change

Making good things change is a stupid gamble that only ever succeeds in spite of all likelihood

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I'm going to keep posting cybergoth in the cybergoth thread, and there's nothing you can do about it.

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>>15762471
Jokes on you, real goth is Vampyra, and only Vampyra

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>>15763749
I lied, jokes on me. My dumbass misspelled her name

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>>15736610

>> No.15765963

>>15744046
it's a cyberpunk dystopia, but not the cool kind where you can go to eat noodles in Chinatown in the rain while wearing a trenchcoat with your hologram gf