Fashion Discussion

[Anonymous No.15665749]

ITT: We genuinley discuss fashion.

This thread is intended to discuss cultural impact of fashion trend, both past and present. It is for speculation of future and emerging trends. It is for discussion of fashion theory, history and interpretation.

-this is not a r8/8 my fit thread
-feel free to post pics of your fits and elaborate on your choices
-feel free to critique and offer thought out advice

-runway photos are encouraged
-discussion of vibes/styles you're going for are encouraged
-analysis of trends is encouraged

[Anonymous No.15665753]

POOPA

[Anonymous No.15665767]

The e-boy aesthetic takes large inspiration from both nu-metal and early 00s prep-casual.

It's a really strange hybrid and textbook example of how even though an era may return (early 00s in this case)... styles as a whole don't. When an era makes a resurgence, people pick and choose staples of said era, combining them into something representative of the decade as a whole but rarely something cohesively period correct.

[Anonymous No.15665769]

>>15665767
>people pick and choose staples of said era, combining them into something representative of the decade as a whole but rarely something cohesively period correct

Which brings us to the fact that each and every "[insert decade]s AESTHETIC" is an exaggerated pastiche that only exists in retrospect. Nobody instinctively knows which stupid fads will later be viewed as decade-defining.

[Anonymous No.15665773]

Could be a cool thread. I’ll dump some runway I have saved

[Anonymous No.15665777]

>>15665773

[Anonymous No.15665781]

>>15665777

[Anonymous No.15665787]

Undercover has kind of turned into a meme brand but some of the runway stuff is/was excellent

[Anonymous No.15665790]

>>15665769
Absolutley. Little things like tattoo cholera were the last thing I'd have expected to come back.

In terms of hair... spiky frosted tips were without the go to hairstyle men, but there's been almost no resurgence; whereas longer hair with middle parts, which weren't especially popular are definitley back in the forefront.

Much like the 1970s revival of the late 90s and 00s... It wasn't trendy disco era glitzy suits and large lapelles that defined the resurgence, but rather more plebian rural styles.

[Anonymous No.15665791]

>>15665787

[Anonymous No.15665792]

>>15665790
>cholera
Chokers*

[Anonymous No.15665794]

>>15665787
I’d like to see a lot of interesting mask exploration this year. We’ll see.

[Anonymous No.15665805]

>>15665777
I much enjoy talking about the cyclical nature of fashion and this image sparks very strong 2002 vibes.

Again, not trendy styles of 2002, but lower class streetrat utility exaggerated.

Some kind of carhardt collab? Really dies a good job portraying the utility of work wear and its transition as a casual staple among the lower class.

[Anonymous No.15665808]

>>15665794
Me too. It's been present as a runway tool for ages, but given the circumstances; there's now an opportunity to incorporate it into layman's styles as well.

[Anonymous No.15665823]

I’ve been really interested in Japanese sashiko, I was curious if anyone has any experience with sashiko and Boro or at least share an interest for Japanese denim and mending techniques. The Japanese denim culture is absolutely insane. It would be a dream of mine to go their and learn sashiko. (I do not watch anime btw)

[Anonymous No.15665829]

>>15665823

[Anonymous No.15665845]

>>15665823
>>15665829
I've got a pair of pants that I love but recently blew the crotch out of that would Benifit from this greatly.

I'm honestly not even sure they could be salvaged at this point but I can't bear to get rid of them.

Any insight into this is very appreciated.

[Anonymous No.15665858]

>>15665829
Thanks for reminding me this exists anon. I fucking love the aesthetics of the stitching, big fan of the sustainability of it. Fuck fast fash

[Anonymous No.15665864]

>>15665749
> uses disgusting pic for the thumbnail
Hope this thread gets killed asap

[Anonymous No.15665867]

>>15665823
I've really been meaning to get into this. This embroidery on clothes by bandulu is pretty similar, I've tried emulating it but I've gotten lazy and haven't worked on it in a while.

[Anonymous No.15665870]

>>15665749
alright, ambitious thread. but first we take second to imagine the smell.

[Anonymous No.15665873]

>>15665864
>implying the OP image isn't commentary on the shit culture surrounding the majority of this board

[Anonymous No.15665876]

>>15665845
Honestly man just go for it, there’s nothing to lose and the more thrashed it looks the more “sashiko” it is.
I’m going to try and create a patterned patch tonight. I wish you luck buddy!

>>15665858
I’m just so fascinated with denim from Japan, they are just leap and bounds above Levi’s in my opinion

[Anonymous No.15665881]

>>15665867
Yeah that’s absolutely beautifuL, I could see how ones hbd would start to hurt easily. Are these the ones you did yourself?

[Me !1n6WugqKa6 No.15665888]

Considering “fashion” is mostly affected by current cultural events
(IE Vietnam war bred the hippie movement and the aesthetic that followed...the 60’s youth rebellion popularized miniskirts that were never really acceptable before..suffragette women’s rights movement changed how women dressed overall into more revealing and less “obedient” styles)

I’m very interested to see how the times we are living in are going to reflect in fashion...or is the internet just going to be the major source of inspiration (which is also a cultural thing in itself)?

From what I have seen people are getting less elaborate and more simple/functional/comfortable when it comes to fashion - which I’m here for - but also maybe it’s bc I’m getting older and therefore I’m not hanging out with 20 year olds that do “risky” looks. Hard to tell.

[Anonymous No.15665911]

>>15665749
we need to bring pic related back

[Anonymous No.15665932]

>>15665911
already back along with y2k

[Anonymous No.15665942]

>>15665911
I've mentioned this in a previous thread, but women's hairstyles rarely every see a resurgence.

If you look at film and media placed in the past; it's very uncommon to see period correct hairstyles. Clothes are on point but hair and to a lesser degree makeup are kept within current beauty standard to increase sex appeal and marketability.

Men's hairstyles seem to come back around much faster and my theory on that is due to the fact men tend to lose their hair a they get older. Women in the other hand can keep their same hairstyle from the prime of their youth well into old age should they choose.

This, vintage hair style on a man is representative of youth. While vintage hairstyle on a woman can resemble the littler old lady down the street.

The glimmer of hope with big emo hair is the fact it feel out of vogue very quickly and almost nobody wears it's any more, especially not those who would have worn it I
the 2000s who are now aging into their mid 30s.

[Anonymous No.15665958]

>>15665749
Is it even possible to be /fa/ while fat?

[Anonymous No.15665964]

>>15665958
As a man, yes.

As a woman, no.

[Anonymous No.15665967]

>>15665964
OK cool. I was on a good path until the gyms closed but I can get back on track now.

[Anonymous No.15665976]

>>15665958
As a man, no.

As a woman, yes.

[Anonymous No.15666018]

>>15665964
Bingo

To elaborate on this... It all boils down to the culture we live in.

You can't be apologetic about being fat. You must own it. But conversely, fat women cannot be fashionable, because society pushes the fall fallacious notion that fat genuinley is beautiful way too far. This notion goes against our natural instincts, is delusional and delusion is never effay.

A corpulant man, is well aware he doesn't have an ideal body type. He makes no excuses and dressing fashionably is counter cultural risk that goes against societies expectations of cargo shorts and collegiate tee shirts.

A well dressed fat man, stands out in a crowd. Dare I say even moreso than an thin well dressed man. Well dressed fat women are a dime a dozen.... Fucking sheep like the rest of them playing into the same beauty standards they claim to be fighting.

[Anonymous No.15666028]

>>15666018
This actually makes alot of sense.

[Anonymous No.15666031]

>>15666018
cope fatty

[Anonymous No.15666047]

>>15666031
Nah m8. Not even fat. But there's a reason pic related works...

[Anonymous No.15666049]

>>15666047
And pic related doesn't

[Sieg !NP2jUmGKeo No.15666053]

>>15665911
The cute emo chick from high school is divorced and a mother of 3

[Anonymous No.15666056]

>>15666047
It doesn't work at all, fatty.

[Anonymous No.15666061]

>>15666053
like every other woman

[Anonymous No.15666078]

>>15666047
>>15666049

>But there's a reason pic related works...
>and pic related doesn't

Fashionable fat men are not attempting to sell sex appeal. They sell hedonism. Hedonism is how you become fat in the first place. The implication that all body types are beautiful is flat out wrong. they're not. A Fat man will never be attractive. Fat is ugly but fat men are not even attempting to sell aesthetic attraction or beauty they're selling the concept of a good time.

It's the same reason a fatty fuck in a peice suit and fedora is the embodiment cringy. There's nothing attractive or dignified about being fat. But dressed properly a fat guy can signal to the room that he sure as shit knows how to have a good time.

[Anonymous No.15666095]

>>15666053
literal truth

[Anonymous No.15666229]

>>15665888
checked

I'm also noticing stranger 'cuts' with fashion but I don't know if it's just a trend

people are moving to very "comfortable" clothing that the material choice is more important

Honestly I wish we would move to something more futuristic I'm tired of the ol' t shirt combo, I wish something would change to bring back some sort of elaborate care or technological revolution to the tshirt with whatever capitalism brand on it

[Anonymous No.15667216]

>>15666053
Kek

[Anonymous No.15667461]

>>15665787
Most of undercovers recent shows haven't been great but the Throne of Blood one was excellent both in terms of the clothing and the performance art that was done. Undercover produces such a wide range of designs and has done for many years that I don't really think it's fair to call it a meme brand in the same way say, Off-White is - I'd like to add though that Off-White has excellent womens stuff but is simply given a bad name by the screen printed and overbranded and boring mens clothing and (mostly) uninspired sneakers.

I'm getting quite sick of the LOL OVERSIZED CLOTHES XD and athleisure styles that many designers are still producing. I'm increasingly becoming interested in independent, expensive Japanese brands that have next to 0 presence in the western sphere of the internet and have few stores stocking it in the first place.

[Anonymous No.15667488]

>>15665787

First picture isn’t UC!

[Anonymous No.15668084]

Unfortunately I'm not big brained enough to provide worthwhile contribution but I just want to say excellent thread guys, this is what /fa/ is meant to be like!

[Anonymous No.15668128]

>>15665823
You might look up tutorials online (make sure the person who posted the content is Japanese though.) Sashiko uses a different style of sewing than is commonly used in the US, the technique is to move the fabric instead of the needle. I was interested in sashiko a while back and found this website: http://www.designbyaika.com/sashiko-tutorials/sashiko-stitching-right-and-wrong/ you might find it useful

[Anonymous No.15668149]

Casual clothes are becoming formal.

White and black tie is based on what people wore and suits were casual. Then, suits were formal and sports coats, polos, shirts, slacks and jeans were casual. Now those are semi business casual and formal and casual is hoodies and sweatpants.

I imagine that smart clothes will be the norm in the future. A t shirt that can change colour on demand, stain proof and crease free

[Me !1n6WugqKa6 No.15668177]

>>15666229
I agree with more futuristic fashions and forecasting can be very interesting
I really do think techwear is gonna take the reins for a bit given the current social climate...though I haven’t done proper research or anything

But one thing I’ve noticed is as the pendulum swings from what’s inspiring what - wether it’s high fashion being inspired by low fashion or vise versa - I’m seeing low fashion as the designers go to rn for inspo and ideas

[Anonymous No.15668227]

>>15668149
>Casual clothes are becoming formal.

Absolutely.... and I greatly dislike it.

My interpretation is this was largley established in the late 80s-90s with the jeans + blazer combo becoming extremely normal.

Jeans + blazer and Oxford .... then Jeans + blazer & tee shirt was this awful low standard set buy many celebrities at semi casual settings like Planet Hollywood events or planned interviews. Basically casual attire, cheaply spruced up with a blazer and it always looked odd and lazy to me.

Things got really accelerated in the late 90s - early 00s with the prominence of hip hop culture. Before 1996, outside of gym teachers, and b boys it wasn't common to see people wearing athletic clothing in any kind of setting outside arthritic activity.

Even late 90s prep casual that was heavily athletic inspired had some weird mildly formal elements like prevelance of khakis, collars on jerseys, Polos with zippers in place of buttons and classic rugby jerseys; which amount to highly decorated long sleeve white collared polos.

By 2001 athletic inspiration was at the forefront of everything from the street to red carpet events. Track suits were no longer only associated with mobsters but you had big names wearing velour trackies to red carpet events.

Around 2003 things diverged again into two seperate subsects where urban types devolved into what I'd consider a low point with drastically oversized clothing and jerseys at the forefront. Whereas white culture split of into 70s inspired weathered jeans, retro button ups and fitted tee shirts.

Now well into the 21st century, "athleisure" is a term frequently thrown around. Whereas it seems like lower class are pushing harder to dress more formally, upper class are going full blown gym attire with yoga pants and half zip pullovers being perfectly acceptable attire for everything except in person meetings and rare high societal functions.

[Anonymous No.15668229]

>>15667488
Technically you’re right, it’s Takahiro, I should have specified. Joint runway show though.

[Anonymous No.15668253]

>>15668177
Theres some unusual pushback in clothing right now where there is also a saturation of clothing due to people with kon-mari (too much clothing in thrift stores, chinese fast fashion pushing down prices) and the obvious, covid, making it difficult to make any headway in "new" clothing styles
I expect probably maybe ten years before we start seeing anything revolutionary and as mentioned, social changes will have to change which I think after 2020 we might begin seeing some sort of change where clothing goes along with it

>>15668227
>Whereas it seems like lower class are pushing harder to dress more formally

There is barely any chances to ever get 'dressed to the nines' anymore unless someplace forces you to do so
It is kind of disgusting how casual lack of care has become the norm, showing up at a wedding in a tshirt is crass but not the way it used to be. Black tie is quickly becoming a thing of the past and working at home has eroded any kind of business suit and tie.

[Anonymous No.15668285]

>>15668128
Thank you so much, I appreciate you taking the time to show me this website!

[Anonymous No.15668290]

>>15666078
Fat males are not really selling hedonism either, there is strong cultural and historical showing that fat male == wealth, he is able to not work for a living, and therefore the obvious is unspoken; able to care for a woman and child(ren) with ease, there will be no hard times for them.
A skinny rail thin man being attractive is relatively new, usually a fit man of good health, even in the 1920s, it was common for someone to describe themselves as "healthy, with good teeth, and good skin" in order to display that they were not sickly.
>>15666049
Fat woman however, doesn't display the same items. Fat woman displays sheer lack of control or lack of impulse. Since women Are caretakers of the home and historically children, a fat woman may well impose those upon the things she is expected to care for: her household and her children, so even subconsciously in many cultures, it is seen as slovenly.

[Anonymous No.15668392]

>>15668290
Fat men culturally and historically represent the degeneration of culture and civilization. They're not and will never be /fa/.

[Anonymous No.15668470]

>>15668177
I've seen people wearing LEDs that can change color a lot more often lately.

[Anonymous No.15668566]

Just wanted to post this.

[Anonymous No.15668655]

>>15668566
Nice.

Probably not the best example but it reminds me of that David LaChapelle style of photography that was very prevalent in advertising around the turn of the millennium.

Enhanced saturation and highlights, false shadows, soft glows around the subject. It gave things an almost holy look.

[Anonymous No.15669042]

>>15668227
>Absolutely.... and I greatly dislike it.

I completely agree with you. People don’t care what they were anymore. Blazer/sports coats and t shirt is seen as TOO formal these days for streetwear or even business casual.

>upper class are going full blown gym attire with yoga pants and half zip pullovers being perfectly acceptable attire for everything except in person meetings and rare high societal functions

>>15668253
>There is barely any chances to ever get 'dressed to the nines' anymore unless someplace forces you to do so

Agreed. People don’t wear suits to interview. That’s the reason I brought one. Made sure it fitted nice, had the pants tailored, nice matching tie, pocket square. Said I was too formal....and I didn’t get the job neither. People don’t give a shit anymore and the suits gonna be a relic of the past decade. I bet jeans and button shirts will follow. Makes me sick. I don’t wanna look like a chav

[Anonymous No.15669456]

>>15668084
Similarly small brained but that guy's fit is my favorite in this thread. Thanks for sharing, anon.

[Anonymous No.15669858]

>>15669456
>brained but that guy's fit is my favorite in this thread.

[Anonymous No.15670015]

Can I dress like this at home?

[Anonymous No.15670056]

I feel like androgynous fashion could go one of two ways
It'll either continue to expand, much larger than it already is (which is significant but not that massive) or come to be seen as the 'look' of the late 10's.

Some thoughts;
>Cheaper production costs.
I think it's funny that people call these companies schilling this look 'forward thinking' or 'progressive' in some way when it's clearly easier to set up the schematics for one garment for both sexes then 2 thus leading to higher profits.
>Popularized by queer 'influencers'
I'm personally of the opinion that peak tumblr-bullshit-queer culture peaked a couple of years ago (I.E woke, idpol bullshit. See Adolf Reed Jr if you want a very decent critique of this) it's always possible it's just the milieu of ppl I hang with having actually fucking matured (though a fair amount are gay) it's possible this could still be in ascendance and thus, the gender-neutral 'look' could gain greater mainstream appeal.

I don't know a great deal about womens fashion but many high fashion mens brands (take any brand associated with football hooligans. Stone Island, for example.) have exploded maybe not just in opposition to this 'look' but because it's exceptionally popular in and of itself. I guess we'll see.

tl;dr I think androgynous clothing could either be seen as the defining 'cringe' fashion of the late 10's, or increase in popularity due to low production costs and queer internet culture.
We'll see.

[Anonymous No.15670059]

Why bother posting runway if it looks retarded

[Anonymous No.15670071]

>>15668392
Wrong, women represent the degradation because ever since they got rights everything has went to shit. Economy, fashion, culture.

[Anonymous No.15670357]

>>15670015
>based 56k 2001 poster

[Anonymous No.15671072]

>>15670056
Yeah I dunno. Androgynous styles were very popular in the 80s too but died out in the 90s.

[Anonymous No.15671355]

>>15668227
I think this is related to tech bros becoming the new elite. Guys think adopting a norm core uniform will make them into Steve jobs, but is actually despicable in its disingenuous attempt to reject aesthetics

[Anonymous No.15671381]

>>15670071
Lol they’re both disgusting but you are probably the most disgusting the way you try to cope

[Anonymous No.15671397]

>>15670357
Let's bring back early 2000's faux wigger-core. Max comfort.