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This thread is for those who hate modernity, consumerism, and most of all, synthetic fibres.

Previous thread: Let's call it a test run.

>Rules
-Try to attach a relevant image to most of your posts. No reaction images. ("Is this Neofolk?" posts allowed.)
-"Not Neofolk." posts tolerated but only with a Neofolk image.
-Calm discussion of politics/philosophy allowed.
-If the discussion's quality degrades or it gets off-topic, stop.

>What is Neofolk?
>Neo-
From Ancient Greek νέος ("new").
>Folk
Of or pertaining to the inhabitants of a land, their culture, tradition, or history.
-
Neofolk is a dark, esoteric, often militaristic take on folk styles. It is best known as a musical genre but the principles can apply to any aspect of style/art. In clothing it manifests as traditional and military pieces in earth tones and natural materials (mainly wool, linen, and leather). Looks in this style range from soft and earthy to sharp and militant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neofolk

>Where to cop?
>Europe
https://www.varusteleka.com/en
https://www.carriercompany.co.uk
>North America
https://kommandostore.com

>How do I live it?
Hiking
Foraging
Hunting
Traditional crafts
Homesteading
Folk religion
Poetry

>Music
Current 93
Death in June
Falkenstein
Heilung
:Of The Wand And The Moon:
Rome
Sol Invictus
Werkraum
Wolcensmen

>Authors (and a recommended work)
Lord Robert Baden-Powell - Scouting for Boys
Savitri Devi - Impeachment of Man
Ralph Waldo Emerson - Nature
Julius Evola - Ride the Tiger (Cavalcare la tigre)
Knut Hamsun - Growth of the Soil (Markens Grøde)
Ted J. Kaczynski - Industrial Society and Its Future
Pentti Linkola - Can Life Prevail? (Voisiko elämä voittaa)
Ernest Thompson Seton
Henry David Thoreau - Walden
J.R.R. Tolkien
-
The Poetic Edda
Kalevala

>More:
https://herrurst.com
https://www.instagram.com/herrurst
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938–39_German_expedition_to_Tibet

We are not the last of yesterday, we are the first of tomorrow.

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As always, starting off with some OC posted in the last thread.

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New OC and suggestions for the OP are always appreciated.
Not sure why I reddit-spaced the last post.
2/2

>> No.15648287

STOP

JUST

STOP

you are killing all the creativity in this by doing a daily thread with guides and other stupid shit.

also
>>15648281
not neofolk

>> No.15648289

>>15648281
Nice disgusting trash tats. Good job ruining your chest, you stupid, vapid cunt.

>> No.15648290
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>on folk styles

nope

that's not what the folk stands for

there is no african tribe neofolk

there is no americana neofolk

there is no indonesian neofolk

it is EURO centric

>> No.15648291

>>15648276
>J.R.R. Tolkien

Are you fucking kidding me? This has to be a troll post at this point

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>>15648291
>

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>>15648303
Not neofolk

>> No.15648307

>>15648281
>tats
degenerate

>> No.15648308

add heidegger to the essential reading list

>> No.15648309

>>15648306
Not good music.

>> No.15648310

>>15648309
Neofolk is terrible music but hobbits are still not neofolk. It's continental european. The eternal anglo can only watch in jealousy. inb4 doug is brit

he's a fag

>> No.15648313

>>15648309
Then what is good music, faggot?

>> No.15648318

>>15648313
Not neofolk

>> No.15648322

>>15648318
coward

>> No.15648327

>>15648318
Man, im asking what kind of music you are into. I require an honest answer.

>> No.15648332

>>15648327
Classical. Neofolk is still extremely shitty music.

>> No.15648341

>>15648276
Weirdo

>> No.15648343

>>15648313
>>15648310
If you want good, entry level English new (neo is a stupid marketing term anyway) folk music.
Comus - First Utterance.
The Incredible String Band - The Hangman's Beautiful Daughter.
John Renbourn - Sir John Alot'
Fern Knight.
Mellow Candle.
The Owl Service
Venereum Arvum
The Horses Of The Gods.

:Of The Wand And The Moon:, Catherine Ribeiro and Blood Axis are also good. All together anything on this list is magnitudes better than Douglas' literal faggot windchime bullshit. For the record Neo-Folk was invented by Brits.

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bump

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>>15648276
its actually incredibly based how hard you're triggering fragile euro faggots

please god continue posting these

>> No.15648386

>>15648383
As expected from a retarded amerimutt. You didn't even get it.

>> No.15648389

>>15648386
please continue to seethe it literally warms my heart

>> No.15648394

>>15648389
I'm not european

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>>15648343
>the list of literal whos

OTWATM is literally Kim trying to blatantly copy Doug. Copy is good, but still it's a copy.

NADA is the pinnacle of the genre. Nothing ever came close and it's not to be discussed, if you don't get such basic thing about neofolk then you need dig more before posting ridiculous shit.

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>>15648394
>>15648389
>>15648386
>>15648383
>>15648332
>>15648327
>>15648322
>>15648309
stop ruining the threads seething retards. go argue somewhere else. this is the fashion board. a place to talk about fits, style and accessories.

non-douche people, please post OC and keep these threads alive. the style is cool and the style is what we are here to discuss.

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the jew fears the yarn spinner

>> No.15648447

>>15648426
Unwearable larp costume. Not neofolk

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Reminder to not give shitlords their (You)s.
Will repost some stuff from the last thread in a bit.

>> No.15648460

>>15648457
why bother reposting the same old three pics

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From the last thread

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>>15648457
>Will repost some stuff from the last thread in a bit.
If that's the case then this thread, like most generals, really didn't need to be made.

>> No.15648474

>>15648473
this guy gets it


I'm starting to think these threads are a falseflag to just shit up the board even more.

>> No.15648549

>>15648276
i can't imagine how unbearable you are if you actually dress like this

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>>15648287
There hasn't been a guide image posted since a few threads ago.
>>15648291
>Fought in WWI
>Dressed well
>Smoked a pipe
>Crafted an entire mythology to reawaken parts of the European soul
What's not Neofolk about that?
>>15648310
If you think it makes sense to separate the cultures of the British Isles from those of continental Europe, then you don't understand European history or culture.
>>15648426
Good post.

>> No.15648565

>>15648558
The OP functions as a guide.

Kill yourself

>> No.15648576

>>15648558
Lord of the rings is NOT neofolk. No matter how you try to steer your narrative.

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>> No.15648599

>>15648590
w2c jacket

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>>15648565
If you have a better way to describe the style without introducing too many limitations, then try posting it rather than whining. Maybe I'll use your description in the OP.

>> No.15648610

These threads. nothing changes, only gets worse.

>> No.15648615

>>15648601
There should be no description. No discussion. This needs to stay underground.

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>>15648615
Based, I love the hegemony of athleisure too. No one should ever dress like this or talk about it because that would be cringe. I love modern life.
Retard.

>> No.15648664

>>15648278
>>15648634
>>15648644
>>15648648
>>15648652
I like these a lot.

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>> No.15648669

>>15648652

never button up the bottom button of a suit jacket.

>> No.15648671

>>15648648
At his most 80s German new wave look lol

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>>15648652
Funny. You think the guy in your pic ever asked what media to consume to be able to dress the way he does?

>> No.15648677

>>15648669
Reddit advice. That's a sporting coat with a 2 button stance in the waist, it's supposed to be buttoned shut. If you opened the bottom one it would flap open all the time because the buttons are so high on the body.

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>>15648669
That's not a suit jacket.

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>> No.15648713

>>15648684
>>15648674
>>15648666
>>15648652
>>15648644
>>15648634
imagine being a völkisch elitist and having shitty posture like this. good fits though

>>15648668
saved. source?

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please let this thread be better than the last

>> No.15648720

>>15648668
Based kino

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>>15648713
His posture is fine. He isn't a völkish elitist either you fucking mongrel

>> No.15648723

>>15648648
Those are some really nice boots.

>> No.15648728

>>15648713
You realize he's doing poses for pics right?

>> No.15648733

>>15648276
anyone got a reputable place to get a ruck like in op's pic? i was thinking of going soviet milsurp but I wanted something a little older looking.

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>> No.15648736

>>15648728
>>15648722
he slouches and doesn’t stand up straight. not proper posture for a Mann of the neofolk Reich.

>> No.15648738

>>15648374
I can read middle egyptian and that wadjet with the text is simplistic bullshit. Can only assume how correct the rest is.

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>>15648736
Oh a troll post. Carry on.

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>> No.15648757

>>15648718
also don't mind the quality, I have an old phone...

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>>15648733
A couple that are similar:
https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/czechoslovakian-m60-backpack-w-o-suspenders-brown-surplus/6173
https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/italian-mountain-rucksack-surplus/15543
Varusteleka is generally a pretty good place for milsurp and the like.
Pic is a different bag to the links.

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>> No.15648767

Make sure to call the next thread Koch general cause that’s all that gets posted

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>>15648767
cry moar faggot

I don't see you provide anything of worth.

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>>15648276

Here's something that isn't just more knoch.

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>>15648771

Love the fits here. Natural fibers, relaxed, and exploring distant lands.

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>>15648776
Can guns be /nef/?

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>>15648771
terrible

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>>15648782
Lol my bad not a gun

Pic from previous thread

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>>15648782
yes

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>> No.15648792

>>15648281
>tfw no based beret and strichtarn pack boating gf

>> No.15648794

>>15648792
Tattoed only fans whore as a gf? no thanks

>> No.15648795

>>15648791
>>15648788
>>15648770
he literally slouches in every picture. as if his shoulders can’t bear the weight of his body. what an Untermann.

>> No.15648796

>>15648770
Not crying at all faggot. Just sad that this general consists of nothing other than non stop Koch pics and reposting the other few images there are. You’re not contributing either considering Koch doesn’t post here anymore, just brainless reposting for what?

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>>15648784
Please explain what you mean. I think it's great

>> No.15648800

>>15648799
That's just because your horny, nothing interesting about her fit

>> No.15648801

>>15648795
Keep projecting kike.

>> No.15648806

>>15648796
You're reposting nothing but old shit everybody has already seen and even worse stuff than before.

>> No.15648807

>>15648801
IT'S THE JOOOOOOOS

>> No.15648815

>>15648795
I don't see it. I think you're just trying to find a flaw to shitpost about.

>> No.15648819

>>15648807
You certainly are a degenerate that's for sure.

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Mandatory reading:
http://www.shekhovtsov.org/articles/Anton_Shekhovtsov-Apoliteic_Music.html

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>>15648807
>>15648815
>>15648819
That's enough, lads.

>> No.15648841

>>15648840
Not neofolk. Stop posting

>> No.15648843

>>15648771
>>15648693
Saved

>>15648722
That leather bomber looks great, anyone know the source?

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>>15648843
iirc its an A2 pilot jacket

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>>15648841
Stop complaining unless you're going to post something better.

>> No.15648861

>>15648858
Still not neofolk. Me calling you out on posting shit that doesn't belong here is a service.

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>Neofolk/Earthy/Forest

>> No.15648896

>>15648861
its close enough

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>>15648861

Are kimono's /nef/

>> No.15648919

>>15648913
Well, they're folk. They're a bit more anachronistic than even most /nef/ags are willing to go-roughly mid 19th century at most. But more power to you.

>> No.15648920

>>15648795
>>15648736
>>15648713
Are you that retard who doesn't understand how wool pants work?

>> No.15648923

>>15648913
I think if ur Japanese there’s a lot of influence to be drawn from, like the aesthetics of imperial Japan, traditional warrior culture, and yukio Mishima. I think it’s a fertile ground for neofolk

>> No.15648971

>>15648920
How do wool pant work?

>> No.15648972

>>15648919
>>15648913
>>15648923

I find it supremely gay that the west never developed anything as effay as the kimono

>> No.15649014

>>15648971
>>15649010

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>>15648972
>the west never developed anything as effay as the kimono
Oh?

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>>15649018
Absolutely BASED landschnekt posting, lemme see that phat cod piece

>> No.15649030

>>15649022
>landschnekt

lmao

>> No.15649112

>>15648844
Thank you, also that pic is fire

>> No.15649117

>>15648861
>shitting on everyone's posts without contributing anything of his own

>> No.15649121

>>15649018
>>15649022
based

>> No.15649132

>>15649117
90% of the thread is my pics faggot

>> No.15649178

>>15648795
It's a posture of a man who never exercised in his life. And I don't mean gym, just a couple of pull-ups/push-ups in the morning which is a must for every man with self-respect will do the work on proper posture. He simply has no muscles. Who are you cosplaying in the end, it's ebil nazi soldier of auschwitz prisoner?

>> No.15649184

>>15649178
he posted his body before. you're projecting

>> No.15649185

>>15649178
he is down to about 12% body fat

>> No.15649190
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15649190

since this hasnt been reposted yet.

>> No.15649194

>>15649178
He could be a literal skeleton underneath those clothes and I'd still let him fuck me simply because of his perfect face.

>> No.15649196
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15649196

>>15649022
>landschnekt
Landschneck

>> No.15649214
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15649214

>>15648722
>>15648728
>>15648920
>>15648747
>>15648770
>>15648801
>>15648815
>>15649184
>>15649185
>>15649194
imagine being so massive faggot that you have to gatekeep the thread 24/7 just to defend some anorexic cosplayer you're obsessed with.

>> No.15649219

>>15649214
imagine being such a faggot you need 4chan to dress yourself

>> No.15649220

>>15649214
U mad you didn't get spoonfed?

>> No.15649225

>>15649214
Gatekeeping is a word only used by people of low intelligence who cannot achieve something without help

>> No.15649231

>>15649214
Imagine being such a massive faggot to not contribute literally anything and still whine like a little bitch

>> No.15649285

>>15649219
>>15649220
>>15649225
>>15649231
Wow. Do you have a name for your band of something?
Like "The Anorexic Fuhrer's bodyguards",
or "Retardsgrenadiers",
maybe "Gruppenfaggots"?

>> No.15649287

>>15649285
You realize the guy you're shit talking doesn't even post here and nobody cares about you either?

>> No.15649372

>>15648473
>>15648474
This
>>15648276
OP plz stahp

>> No.15649373

>>15649372
this really didn't need a bump

>> No.15649376
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15649376

>> No.15649384

>>15648771
good pic, dogshit stance

>> No.15649388

>>15648784
ID on the boots?

>> No.15649420

>>15649388
wouldnt you like to know

>> No.15649517
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15649517

Pretty sure it’s not neofolk, but thoughts on old Hunter shit?

>> No.15649527

>>15649517
Why bother posting it if you already know.

>> No.15649537

>>15649527
We’ll i was wondering if certain aspects could be incorporated, which is why I said hunting shit instead of specifically the pic

>> No.15650093

Forestbump

>> No.15650143
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>>15648276
Anyone know where I can get a nice green coat?
I don't normally shop for clothes but I know target had a nice $50 green blazer last year but they ran out of them.

>> No.15650248

>>15650143
Look into Carrier Company's Norfolk style work jacket in Olive. It's not a blazer but it's suitably rustic.
https://www.carriercompany.co.uk/collections/mens/products/norfolk-work-jacket?variant=6766352760885

>> No.15650293

>>15648291

Trad Catholic obsessed with Germanic folklore who lived in the English countryside writing fairytales about the evils of industrialization.

You will never be this neo-folk

>> No.15650326

>>15650293
he might be his work is not

>> No.15650342
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15650342

R8 fit

>> No.15650521

>>15650326
yes it is faggot

>> No.15650635

>>15650521
it's not

>> No.15650645

>>15649517
Swap the plaid for a black wool jacket, toss on a rucksack, and you've got a pretty /nef/ outfit

>> No.15650697

How to get the neofolk look without spending £100 on a fucking sweater?

>> No.15650704

>>15650697
You don't. Generally poor people should not try to wear anything larpy.

>> No.15650725

>>15650697
Thrift shops and Surplus stores, if your country has them. Rucksacks, canvas clothes and bags, older wool clothes, all good stuff. If the point of neofolk is to make a statement about consumerism, I think buying it on a tight budget is right on the mark.

>> No.15650760

>>15650725
Sure, if you want to make a statement looking like shit.

>> No.15651036

>>15650635
it is

>> No.15651125

>>15648473
This is nice

>> No.15651209
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>>15648276
What I just don't get about neofolk is the obsession with the military aesthetic. How does that fit in with the supposed love of culture and tradition? Modern warfare is something that's created by centralized leaders to enact their will in one way or another, not something that's in favour of the common man, who had to leave house and family behind for months or years to do the will of their leaders.
>but muh defending against enemies
Ofcourse you shouldn't just let yourself get invaded by enemies and destroyed, but being vigilant for war is something else than romanticising and idealizing it, which neofolk seems to do by constantly using military symbolism, ideas and actual clothing pieces.

To me it just feels like an excuse to wear military clothing but distancing yourself from actual larpers or guys that wear camo pants with their metal shirts.
If it were up to me I'd push neofolk in the direction of going back to actual folk clothing pieces and normalize them in modern society, instead of them only being something for enthousiasts or special occasions (highland dress, German tracht etc.)
Now it just feels like soft larping a mix of WW1&2

>> No.15651225

>>15651209
I agree with you but I'm sure you'll get a bunch of responses about why fascism is necessary and other delusions

I've been lurking these threads for a while and had the same thought because comfy rural workwear is what I love and seek more inspo for so thanks for the pic

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>>15651225
Thanks, what I'd recommend doing is looking up if your country/state has a national archive with an online photo collection. I've found loads of inspo there, but it takes some time to sift though everything as not every photo shows clothing well enough and not everything is tagged.

>> No.15651239

>>15651233
actually really decent idea, never thought of that. I used to live near a fairly large mining town turned brewery town so I'll have to do that

>> No.15651253

>>15651233

I pretty much dress like that, 1920's 30's working class attire, grandad shirts, waistcoats, high waisted trousers in wool/cord suit jackets flat caps, boots etc. i don't have any fashie views though more old style left.

>> No.15651304

>>15651209
>>15651225
>>15651233
>>15651239
>>15651253
This is what I was looking for, thank you!

>> No.15651312
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15651312

>>15651304
Nice pic from 1936 of the jarrow marchers toi get a basic idea of what ordinary people wore

>> No.15651334

>>15651209
Guy standing on the right is total inspo

>> No.15651355

>>15651209
If you take the "new folk" idea literally, then military has little to do with it. But it's always just been a name for nostalgic but hopeful wandervogel, hitler youth, and wehraboo larping. Military aspects are central to that concept because of the heavy influence of military surplus elements in the germanic experience of the '20s and '30s.

>> No.15651449

german anon here. my grandfather was in the wehrmacht. does this make me neofolk by nature?

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>>15651449
Jah

>> No.15651459

>>15648674
Yes, lmao. Where do you think we are?

>> No.15651460

>>15651209
>>15651233
because if you weren't retarded you'd know that neofolk is literally LARPing as a mix of wandervogel/volkisch/waffen ss
that's the origin of neofolk

>> No.15651476

>>15651458
i actually visited him the other day and asked what kind of music was popular among the soldiers back then.. he told me they were mostly into french chansons, swing and blues.. the officially forbidden stuff. he said there even was a jazz club in (the west german) town before and during the war.. also a lot of richard wagner

concerning books, from what i remeber it was mainly the german classics like goethe, schiller and nietzsche... and of course ernst jünger..
(pin that, jünger is essential)

>> No.15651487

>>15648289
>>15648307
based

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15651512

>>15651355
>>15651460
Nothing wrong with larping as wandervogels or hitler jugend but acknowledge it as larping, instead of creating a whole story about returning to "tradition" with tradition being german milsurp from the interwar times. Don't pretend it's a revival of folklorical clothing.

>> No.15651524

>>15651459
well guess what he never did

>> No.15651533

HAHA, "I hate penicillin!" Fkn hippies.

>> No.15651553

>>15651524
Speak or communicate with you in any way?

>> No.15651556

>>15651553
lmao how much of a newfag are you

>> No.15651557

>>15651512
>Don't pretend it's a revival of folklorical clothing
nobody did you autist. you're projecting your definiton of neofolk which is retarded
nefolk has always been semi militaristic wandervogel LARP with some influence from folk dress
retard

>> No.15651578

>>15651557
Why are people too retarded to understand this? Neofolk is militaristic. it's not fucking farmers

>> No.15651581

>>15651578
this

>> No.15651607
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15651607

>>15651578
Idk I have no idea what neofolk is, i just associate it with dirlewanger aesthetics

>> No.15651622

>>15651607
This board is so fucking shit my god

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>> No.15651654

Is better to be clean shaven or have a beard for the neofolk aesthetic?

>> No.15651657

>>15651622
Yeah fuck you too guy

>> No.15651662

>>15651652
Pretty good

>>15651654
Clean shaven, wearing this look and having a beard pushes you too close to Dark Americana in my opinion

>> No.15651684

>>15651652
>airshit

lmao

>> No.15651741

Any recs for wool blend trousers?

>> No.15651759
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15651759

Is Tom neofolk? What's the difference between pagan and neofolk?

>> No.15651763

>>15649022

sword reads 'gambled my money away' lol

>> No.15651848

>>15651622

we need to rangeban eastern europe

>> No.15651856

>>15649018
>>15649022
The Landsknecht are the weapons and fighting style of Dark Souls and the outfits of RWBY

>> No.15651861

>>15651763
And the humor of Dark Souls

>> No.15651936

>>15651652
If gun is real, this is based. Points for beret and vintage quilted collar brown leather jacket

>> No.15651979

>>15651936
It's not.

>> No.15652110
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15652110

>>15651209
> What I just don't get about neofolk is the obsession with the military aesthetic. How does that fit in with the supposed love of culture and tradition?
What the fuck are talking about, retard?
Tradition and culture lol, take your fucking peasants away.

Neofolk was started by industrial performers, who loved military stuff because it made them look controversial, which is the point of the whole thing.

>> No.15652121

And yet again the only actualy neofolk fits in here are ages old and all by Knoch

>> No.15652126

>>15652110
this

>> No.15652217

>>15651979
What's the tell here? Also I thought airshit were supposed to have orange tips?

>> No.15652222

>>15652217
Orange tip is US only. The handguard is the most telling on this, plus the super cheap shoulder stock buttpad

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15652239

>>15652222
>>15652217
oh also that mag doesn't have the sheet metal stamping dimple because its just molded fake plastic

>> No.15652251

>>15652222
>>15652239
Fair enough. I live in Eastern Europe and am used to seeing them with the orange muzzle

>> No.15652256

>>15652251
Yeah its a few other countries as well but US is most prominent. Either way, that thing is fake as shit. You also don't get a MP5SD that easily that some homo on 4chan would have one

>> No.15652275

>>15651759
he's based is what he is

>> No.15652316

Is this music neofolk?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KNpljOs4Jo&ab_channel=Stormf%C3%A5gel-Topic

>> No.15652499

Or this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srrh7ke7ipk&list=RD6KNpljOs4Jo&index=10&ab_channel=Stormf%C3%A5gel-Topic

>> No.15652628

>>15651460
The closest waffen SS comes to neofolk is DI6's totenkopf. Usually it's not very central, because the aristocratic, disciplined, warrior culture, explicitly and thoroughly race-ideological, etc nature of the SS is a bit distant from more common rural neofolk aesthetic.

Wehrmacht is closer.

>> No.15652635

>>15651578
>>15651557
You guys are being unnecessarily hostile. He was just clarifying and adding on to my point about /nef/ being a vandervogel/hitlerjugend/wehrmacht larp and you felt the need to sperg out and start swearing at him. These threads are only going to stay pleasant and productive if we give each other more charity.

>> No.15652777
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>>15652628
I wouldn’t be so sure of that, there’s two sides to the SS. On one end you have divisions like the ones you’re mentioning, but as the war progressed, the SS started taking on a different role. They became in essence the foreign legion of Nazi germany, with people of all races and nationalities joining in, as well as their equipment becoming much more “DIY” and experimental. This combined with the general mysticism of the SS i think makes them fit the mood more. I mean, a Spaniard or Turk in experimental camouflage smocks And homemade masks fighting desperately in these ancient eastern and Central European forests, something seems rather somber but fitting about that, but maybe that’s just me

>> No.15652792

>>15652777
Ok fair enough. I always try to understand the SS as it was intended, not as it turned out after stalingrad and a few meth overdoses.

>> No.15652802
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15652802

>>15652792
That’s fair, though I think i prefer what it became, because while being for show is cool and honestly they looked badass (pic related). But as the war progressed, they became a proper fighting force, pioneering mechanized infantry and becoming the interesting role of being the foreign legion. I mean everyone likes to paint nazis as these white psychopaths who killed all who weren’t blond or blue eyed, but the reality was you had sikhs, Turks, Spaniards, Frenchmen, actual nords, finns, Americans, and even Slavs fighting for them. All volunteer too, which is rather interesting. Plus they proved a valuable testbed for real experimental shit, like mass produced camouflage and assault rifles

>> No.15652825

hobbits

>> No.15652869

>>15648634
id on the boots?
>>15648652
these, too
>>15648684
these, too

>> No.15652874

>>15652802
Yeah of course the later SS was more pragmatic and innovative in an immediate pragmatic sense. But the early thing wasn't just for show; it was for reconstituting the spirit of a whole elite and society. Its contributions were spiritual and foundational, rather than pragmatic.

>> No.15652881
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15652881

W2C grey merino trousers

>> No.15652885

>>15652881
Cordings wool flannel trousers. Not sure if anyone uses merino for trousers

>> No.15652899

>>15651759
He is even if he doesn't realize it

>> No.15652955

>>15652874
I guess that’s fair, but I do think that stayed alive, at least in spirit. People of all nations and creed coming together to help Germany so that one day their people might too be free, noble shit, even if one doesn’t agree with national socialism. Also the Das Reich and Adolf Hitler divisions kept that same spirit from prewar all the way to the end, so the tradition of the SS never died. Honestly I’m just fascinated by the organization, I wish there were more like it today

>> No.15653600

>>15648291
He´s right, tho.

>> No.15653620

>>15653600
No. High fantasy novels are not neofolk.

>> No.15653675
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15653675

Tolkien is Dark Academia
Dark Academia is the urban Neofolk
Thus Tolkien is Neofolk

>> No.15653726

>>15648281
>Tfw no neo folk wife
Brb gonna swim to hell and stay there

>> No.15653737

>>15648782
>gun
Sure but
>not realising its a lur and therefore even more based
Shame

>> No.15653741

>>15648281
>that chest tattoo

>> No.15653745

>>15651759
>Based Tom
Probably somewhere between neofolk and dark academia. Pagan English countryside vibe

>> No.15653751

>>15648281
>>15653741
>black sun on her knee

>> No.15653753

>>15653751
Lol it's not, it's probably just some flower.

>> No.15653772

>>15653751
Its a flower you fucking retard.

>>15653675
Shut the fuck up mutt.

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15653797

>>15653675
Very True

>> No.15653959

>>15652777
>with people of all races and nationalities joining in
>>15652802
>you had sikhs, Turks, Spaniards, Frenchmen, actual nords, finns, Americans, and even Slavs fighting for them. All volunteer too
>>15652955
>People of all nations and creed coming together to help Germany so that one day their people might too be free

Are there any sources that show this multicultural/multiracial SS, or is this just made up bullshit?

>> No.15653984
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15653984

coppernaught?

>> No.15653985
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>>15653959
look it up yourself you lazy mongrel

>> No.15654005

>>15653985
you are not going to reject manpower with the dire strait germany was in later in the war

>> No.15654009

>>15654005
And? Just like kikes and niggers were in the US army.

>> No.15654019

>>15652874
>But the early thing wasn't just for show; it was for reconstituting the spirit of a whole elite and society. Its contributions were spiritual and foundational,

>>15652802
>you had sikhs, Turks, Spaniards, Frenchmen, actual nords, finns, Americans, and even Slavs

These two claims contradict each other though. The second undermines the first. I think this is a failing argument.

>> No.15654191

Daily reminder: Knoch’s paternal grandfather was 100% Turkish Muslim

>> No.15654197

>>15654191
That'd be funny if he hadn't posted his full family tree before.

>> No.15654280

>>15654197
>these things cannot be faked

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15654290

>>15654280

>> No.15654306

>>15654290
>muh family tree

>> No.15654313

>>15654306
Have fun rotting.

>> No.15654410

>>15648764

Who wants an original canvas Italian alpini backpack leave email

>> No.15654450

And another one of these reaches 300 posts without any posts of value.

>> No.15654454

>>15654450
Take the hint, stop making these threads. Join the neofolk discord and be done with it.

>> No.15654459

>>15654454
What makes you think I made this thread?

>> No.15654462

>>15654459
I didn't say you did. I mean nobody should make these.

>> No.15654464

>>15654462
Go back to school, pajeet.

>> No.15654465 [DELETED] 

https://discord.gg/6FEKCe
https://discord.gg/6FEKCe
https://discord.gg/6FEKCe
https://discord.gg/6FEKCe

>> No.15654467

>>15654454
>discord
die tranny

>> No.15654469

>>15654467
>less gay than /fa/
>tranny tranny

>> No.15654472

>>15654465
expired

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15654475

>>15654454
>>15654465
>come join my discord
t. pic rel

>> No.15654480

>>15654475
why would you save that are you gay

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15654486

>>15654480
Nothing wrong with fucking cute boys.

>> No.15654487

>>15654486
faggot

>> No.15654491

>>15654486
then join the discord then faggot

>> No.15654494

>>15654491
I'm a 25yo boomer I don't use discord. Have fun with your tranny friends LARPing as Nazis, kiddo.

>> No.15654500

>>15654491
The invite link has expired you incompetent tranny.

>> No.15654503

>>15654491
the link is invalid anyways

>> No.15654586

>>15654019
Well you had the 13th SS mountain division, who were made up mostly of Muslims, Though not specifically Turkish, so you got me there, and you had the free Indian volunteer legion. Plus there was the Turkestan legion

>> No.15654593

>>15654465
Repost the link, retard, it expired

>> No.15654633

>>15648634
Damn, I really like those boots. What are they?

>> No.15654822

>>15648472
w2c hat

>> No.15654864

>>15654822
German Renn Faire, he said it a couple of threads back

>> No.15654914

>>15653745
What exactly is pagan about his style besides his ideas?

>> No.15654918

>>15654019
The whole point is a temporal juxtaposition. Early on it was elitist, spiritually natsoc. Later on, they just wanted to win the war and had to compromise a lot more.

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15655148

>> No.15655181

>>15648634
w2c boots i need nice heeled ones like that

>> No.15655187

>>15654586
Fun fact, Knoch’s grandpa earned his German citizenship serving in the Turkestan legion.

>> No.15655196

>>15648738
not him but may i ask how you came to learn? i find it rly interesting, did u learn in school? or by a book/grammar? what made you want to learn?

>> No.15655286

>>15654410
For free?

>> No.15655308

>>15655196
It’s literally just some made up symbols fuccboius, you make it up as you go like they did

>> No.15655498

>>15652316
>>15652499
Actually, yeah. Well, at least the first one seems to fit the bill for sure, but I don't see why the second link wouldn't also.

>> No.15655504

the cringeprint

>> No.15655650

funny how everyone who dresses this way is a city slicker

>> No.15655684

>>15655187
Obsessed with shit posting. His grampa is blonde on the pics he posted.

>> No.15655825

>>15648788
This guy looks like a massive fag

>> No.15655826

>>15655825
Anon, photos are not mirrors. We know you're a faggot already.

>> No.15655830

>>15655650
this needed to be said

>> No.15655833

>>15655830
>>15655650
Neofolk is not 'country farmer'. The neo stands for the new folk which is confined to the cities and tries to break apart from the stereotype.

If you already live on a farm and fuck cows because you're bored you don't need to aspire to be anything else

>> No.15655856

>>15655833
lol so it’s fetishistic hippo-critical military natural fibres larp
hating modernity whilst 4channing on china-child slave devices
consoomimg from moral posturing companies
good bait thread

>> No.15655863

>>15655856
most of the pics in this thread are of people who do not post on 4chan

not to mention you post here too, so your point is moot

>> No.15655867

>>15655863
didn’t say I wasn’t a fellow hypocrite moot moot

>> No.15655868

>>15655856
You sound like you masturbate to anime

>> No.15655870

>>15655867
Thanks, at least you admit to being a faggot.

>> No.15655871

>>15655856
controversial words are always based

>> No.15655873
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>>15655870
yes i am

>> No.15655891

>>15654914
his tattoos are very pagan, also one of the only people ive ever seen with cool tattoos

>> No.15655895

>>15655891
tattoos are never cool

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>>15648276
Thoughts of Other seems to be a great brand for Neofolk.

https://www.instagram.com/thoughtsofother.dylan/

>> No.15655906

>>15655902
Not neofolk. It's just peasant clothing.

>> No.15655909

>>15655830
>>15655856
>>15655867
>>15655873
holy shit based

>> No.15655912

>>15655909
dude, stop samefagging, nobody cares

>> No.15655917

>>15655895
obviously untrue, scythians and other indo european groups, ancient goidelic celts, vikings ect all had tattoos are theyre pretty good. also some islanders and japs have cool tattoo traditions. its only really modern westerns thatve somehow managed to make even tattoos cringe

>> No.15655919

>>15655917
Tattoos are shit smeared into your skin. They are just as bad as piercings or dyed hair. fuck off

>> No.15655920

>>15655917
and theyre pretty cool*

>> No.15655921

>>15655906
Looks really well made, with real silver buttons and all the materials are hand dyed and treated.

>> No.15655925

>>15655921
And? It's still not neofolk. It looks like budget geoffry b smalls

>> No.15655927

>>15655917
Tattoos are for impulsive retards.
I treat people with tattoos like I would children.

>> No.15655929

>>15655902
Looks jewish.

>> No.15655932

>>15655925
I don't know, looks neofolk to me. Urban but traditionally made.

>> No.15655937

>>15655932
Then you don't understand neofolk at all.

>> No.15655941

>>15655937
How so? Do you think Neofolk can only be used old surplus? That includes half the techwear guys if so.

>> No.15655944

>>15655941
It's not surplus. It's specifically continental european militaria. The shit you posted down to literal silver buttons looks like jewish merchant cosplay. Nothing neofolk about it.

>> No.15655950

>edgy cottagecore with nazi larp because hating da jooz is cool

yawn

>>15655856
based

>> No.15655953

>>15655944
>Neofolk is a dark, esoteric, often militaristic take on folk styles. It is best known as a musical genre but the principles can apply to any aspect of style/art. In clothing it manifests as traditional and military pieces in earth tones and natural materials (mainly wool, linen, and leather). Looks in this style range from soft and earthy to sharp and militant.
>natural materials
>Looks in this style range from soft and earthy...

Thoughts of Other looks perfect for that end of the spectrum. I think pure WW2 Larp like Knoch does looks particularly unwearable and autistic in an urban setting. I think if you go that route you need to break it up with softer pieces.

>> No.15655959

>>15655953
you're correct but you'll be bet with dumb responses

>> No.15655961

>>15655953
>urban setting
>90% of knoch pics are in the woods

>> No.15655964

>>15655961
>pure WW2 Larp like Knoch does looks particularly unwearable and autistic in an urban setting.
Maybe try reading the whole sentence.

>> No.15655965

>>15655959
>>15655953
samefag. wait a few minutes next time

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>>15655965
file name bud.

>> No.15655969

>>15655964
So you're acknowleding you're wrong AND you never leave your basement?

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>>15655965
noooo someone cant possible disagree with me without being some bogeyman

fuck off

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>>15655968
WOW

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>>15655969
aaaaah

>> No.15655981

>>15655969
Can you read? Let me make it simpler for you. If the average /fa/ anon who lives in a suburb or city dresses like Knoch does you will look autistic.

>> No.15655984

>>15655975
>>15655980
Why is this dude so mad?

>> No.15655996

>>15655984
don’t mind the autism he means no harm

>> No.15656022

>>15655902
>>15655921
>>15655932
>>15655941
>>15655953
>>15655964
Stop shilling your corny-ass instagram page
That's not neof dumbass

>> No.15656023

>>15655984
can’t tell if it’s just some dude or OP indoctrinating people about neofuck

>> No.15656053

OP is autisticslly obsessed with putting a name to a narrow “style” and engages in epistemological hairsplitting.

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>What Neofolk threads turn into, every time

>> No.15656461

>>15655650
i live in a semi-rural village. the nearest city to me is one of the smallest in my country, at about 20,000 people.

>> No.15656627

>>15648281
tattoos will always make you look like a whore
get rekt cunt

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>>15656204
>>15648276
OP don't make another bread, wait a couple days if not a week before the next. Nobody contributes, nobody shuts the fuck up. it just ends up being a bunch of pansy ass spergs arguing about off topic shit

>> No.15656818

OP here.
>>15656023
I'm not the person you're talking about.
>>15656053
At no point have I got into epistemology in this thread. In fact, I haven't posted since Saturday because I've almost given up on these threads working, so
>>15656775
I won't be making another, at least not for a while.

>> No.15657001

>>15656818
hopefully the next one turns out better

>> No.15657098
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I am NeoFoke

>> No.15657155

>>15657098
more like old fucker

>> No.15657182

anyone here sucks cock?

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>>15657182
do I LOOK like a fag to u??

>> No.15657232

>>15657182
me