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Welcome to The Thunderdome Edition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhg9bYNLvOg

This thread is about the appreciation of watches and their design, their history, and the engineering and materials that are required to make a functioning timepiece.

Guides:
> Poorfag guide: https://m.imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
> Watch essentials 102: https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV
> Purchasing used watches: https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2
> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE

Should I buy this MVMT / DW / "minimalist" fashion watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

Should I buy this Armani / Michael Kors / mall watch?
> https://imgur.com/a/Sw1FsAn

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, pilot
> Movement, e.g. automatic, hand wound, quartz
> Desired features, e.g. water resistance, day/date, 2nd time zone
> Preferred strap option, e.g. leather, nylon, bracelet
> Wrist size or desired watch size

Old bread >>15441716

>> No.15444338

>>15444335
That watch looks stupid as fuck
Why are all the most expensive watches some shit you would win at Chuck E. Cheese?

>> No.15444339
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Find.

a.

FLAW.

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>>15444335
based
what a pretty watch

>> No.15444344

>>15444335
five identical thunderdomes

>> No.15444347
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15444347

>>15441906

how do you like the rav4, toyota senpai

>> No.15444349

>>15444339
cut numeral
retarded crown positioning
chinktier guilloche

>> No.15444356

>>15444335
It’s like something from the Discovery Channel Store

>> No.15444357

>>15444339
its pretty but
>gemstones on a watch
no go unless you are 1) a woman ; 2) producer michael

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15444359

think I’m gonna get a Rep one of these for the laffs

>> No.15444363

>>15444357
it's a women's watch

>> No.15444367

>>15444347
I’ve had it 7 years and only had to change the battery and tires, so it’s been pretty good to me. It’s pretty fun to drive in sport mode, too.

>> No.15444370

>>15444359
Girls won't suck you dick with a fucking JLC, anon.

>> No.15444371

>>15444359
Who would rep a watch no one wants?

>> No.15444374
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>>15444349
>retarded crown positioning
i never got this
why do people insist on having a 3olock crown
especially for watches that arent handwind

a 2 or 4 oclock crown makes more sense, its not in the way and the crown is more protected without having the need for ugly big crownguards

>> No.15444378

First time /fa/ poster.

What's a good watch you'd wear for something like a job interview or a first date. Nothing too fancy, but not too casual either. Budget is $500.

>> No.15444379
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15444379

>>15444374
probably for symmetry reasons
I think the 2 o'clock crown looks better than the 4 o'clock personally.
alternatively: 12 o'clock

>> No.15444383

>>15444378
look up seiko presage on chrono24 and pick your favorite model.
if you don't know watches I recommend trying some on at the mall or something so you know what diameter fits your wrist best. nothing worse than buying one that's way too big because you don't understand that 44mm is large

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>>15444367

very based. look into some of the new ones, covid deals are still in place.

>> No.15444386

>>15444378
Richard Mille RM056

>> No.15444388

>>15444378
a f91w to show that you are poor(so you DEFINATELY need that job), down to earth and and an honest guy. :)

>> No.15444389

>>15444378
Hamilton Khaki FIELD WATCH.

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15444394

Changed the shark mesh strap for you guys. I could get used to it

>> No.15444397

Are there any "watch guys" here who don't own a Rolex at all? If so, how do you explain it?

>> No.15444407

>>15444397
the only person I've ever met irl with a rolex was a kid who got it from his rich dad after graduating high school.
this might sound like a larp but the people I've met with the nicest watches always trashed rolex for various reasons.

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>>15444378
>all these poo suggestions
get a $350 orient star classic white (38.5mm)
probably the best finishing you can ask for in a sub $500 watch and its not ostentatious
alternatively the $100 SNKL41 but swap it onto a leather strap
presage is too flashy and show off

dont get this >>15444389 , even though its a $500 watch it looks like a $100 timex, its only for well to do people to larp

>> No.15444414

>>15444407
>this might sound like a larp but the people I've met with the nicest watches always trashed rolex for various reasons.
Well yeah it's easy when you can say "oh yeah, this cost 10 times as much as a Rolex", I meant more so people with watches of equivalent or lower price.

>> No.15444424

>>15444414
I mean, my family friend owned a PP annual calendar and an IWC minute repeater but he also collected early Hamilton electrics, different omegas, etc.
Some people just don't like rolex for whatever reason. you're not obligated to like them just because you're into watches. I find them boring, except for the milgauss and some cellinis strangely enough

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>>15444378
Tissot Heritage Visodate

>> No.15444451

>>15444407
Rolex is merely a brand for Bangladeshis to ogle on Instagram, in the same vein as Ferrari or FC Barcelona. White people who give a shit about watches tend to curate their tastes a little more.

>> No.15444455

>>15444397
oddly the same reason as >>15444424
rolexes to me are kinda boring, once you "get into watches" theres like a ton of far more interesting pieces and quirky shitters to like

my cousin has a rolex but hes also a retard who knows absolutely nothing about watches and it was bought by his father

>> No.15444457

https://youtu.be/9Shutxcxi4g?t=388

I WANT THIS SO MUCH

>> No.15444460

>>15444451
>>15444455
See >>15444414

>> No.15444466

>>15444457
I hate this girl.

>> No.15444468

>>15444397
You can't call yourself a watch guy and not appreciate Rolex however that doesn't mean you have to own one. I know many collectors with expensive collections, some have Rolex and some don't. They all just buy what they like.

>> No.15444469

>>15444397
I owned a Rolex then gave it away after I got a better watch.

>> No.15444471

So far the only excuse people are giving is that they have a more expensive watch, interesting.

>> No.15444475

>>15444468
appreciate rolex for what? for bringing MUH INVESTMENT cancer into watch collecting?

>> No.15444476

>15444444

>> No.15444477

>>15444471
>ignoring the other points clearly elaborated on
the absolute state of rolex shills

>> No.15444485

>>15444475
That's not a reason to hate a well made watch. Hell it's not a real reason at all.

>> No.15444494

>>15444477
>>ignoring the other points clearly elaborated on
Every single one said they have a more expensive watch dude.

>> No.15444498

>>15444468
if you want to talk about engineering, there are brands like Zenith, Grand Seiko and even J&Co/ RM that legitimately push innovation and all sorts of mechanical memery. Rolex doesnt even offer a tourbillion (a basic for any competent watchmaker)

if you want to talk about visual design theres nothing much to talk about, its all very safe no-risk stuff like the submariner or total garbage like the new Air King or Yachtmaster

if you want to talk about history basically any heritage swiss brand wins, even INVICTA of all brands have a longer history than rolex, its nothing special

>>15444485
they created it by artificially limiting supply

>> No.15444503

>>15444494
how about
>>15444455
>>15444414 (me) I didn't say that I had a more expensive watch, I have one comparable in price to a sub
>>15444498

>> No.15444506
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>> No.15444510

>>15444357
>2) producer michael
kek , that guy sure loves shiny and expensive shitters, on one vide he was shown a couple of suitcases filled with awful looking watches, there was just one decent loking one without any diamond or gold, and the dealer said something like ''this watch is not very pretty, it's not really popular like the others''

>> No.15444511

>>15444498
I haven't been in these threads for a long time but its good to see the same old Rolex haters haven't changed at all.

I have all the major HH brands including Rolex and I can honestly say this year my Rolex have had the most wrist time out of them all this year. They are reliable, resisilant and the perfect every day watches. Only you kids seem to care about all that other irrelevant nonsense.

>> No.15444517

>>15444511
>irrelevant
>having an interest in actual horology and innovation is irrelevant

>reliable, resisilant and the perfect every day watches
so is a $500 citizen ecodrive shitter, whats your point? thats it? lmao

>I have all the major HH brands
post them with timestamp

>> No.15444523

>>15444397
I like them but for pretty much every model there's an alternative that I like more, and the few that I really DO prefer to the alternatives (mostly the GMT Master II and maybe the Daytona) are out of my price range and have insane waiting lists.

>> No.15444537

>>15444517
> mad coz they can't afford a proper watch
you're funny.

>> No.15444545

>>15444537
>missing the point this much

>> No.15444546

>>15444537
>y-you mad cos you can't afford it
actual rich people >>15444510 dont even buy rolex

post your 'HH watches" or fuck off, m8

you rolexfags act like your $25,000 """"tool watch""" is a rarity from heaven when reliable mechanical workhorses are literally one of the most plentiful thing in watches

>> No.15444550

>>15444511
The submariner production cost is about 800$, rolex isnt offering you a bargain,they make you pay a ton because marketing and business reasons, the same as the speedy, it used to cost way less, then at omega realized they could increase its price and people would see it as a luxury item.

>> No.15444554

>>15444550
But that is true of every brand - Rolex, Omega, Lange, Patek etc. Base production cost is a fraction of MSRP. In fact that is true of most luxury goods and it the foundation of any retail business so why criticise a watch brand or any company for making money?

>> No.15444562

Reminder that watches with blue dials are far more difficult to match with straps than black dialed watches.

Take the black pill.

>> No.15444566

>>15444554
there are varying degrees of greediness
also, ((( )))

>>15444562
>black dial and not white/cream dial
you roodypoo lover

>> No.15444575

>>15444554
Not him, but I just can't justify the price difference between Rolex and some of their competition. There's like a $4k difference between a Seamaster and a Sub, and yeah, I could spend $9k on a watch if I really wanted to, but I'm not rich enough to not care about that price gap or enough in love with the Sub that I wouldn't rather have a Seamaster and $4k worth of other stuff instead. (Or, for that matter, another watch, you could just about have a Seamaster AND a Speedmaster for what a date Sub costs these days.)

>> No.15444587

>2 packages from ukraine
>2nd package ordered 1 week after the 1st has already arrived a few days ago, while the 1st package is still stuck at "it has left the country"

did the 1st guy cheap out on shipping?

>> No.15444588

I really want a navitimer but I don't want to spend 8 grand for one, is there anything in the 3-4k range that looks just as good?

>> No.15444592

>>15444575
It's almost as if brands target different price points for people with differing budgets.

>> No.15444602

>>15444588
A second hand navitimer.

>> No.15444612

>>15444588
>3-4k range
just buy a $300 seiko flightmaster or the citizen nighthawk/skyhawk
dont waste your money on a 4k watch, you'll just feel like "well its nice but its not THE navitimer..."

so either save up or >>15444602
if you cant afford it its a bit silly to spend big money now anyways especially in this covid nonsense economy

>> No.15444632

>>15444378
https://www.jomashop.com/glycine-airman-base-22-watch-gl0212.html

>> No.15444645

>>15444378
>>15444632
https://www.worldofwatches.com/mens-airman-vintage-the-chief-gmt-leather-black-dial-glycine-glygl0246
The Chief is more aesthetic

>> No.15444650

>wearing anything under 2k
I know you'll spin this as "just a snob incel" but sorry, I couldn't be caught dead wearing some piece of trash with a quartz movement that you call "affordable", id rather wear nothing at all.

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>>15444335
anybody like the seamaster 300M?

>> No.15444666

>>15444339
its for women, gimme overseas

>> No.15444680

>>15444592
not him, but this isn't the best point. the two brands are targeting different price points while offering the same product, so of course it's worth drawing comparisons. any justification that the rolex is superior relies on referring to the price, I'd wager that if you asked a hypothetical person who didn't know anything about the two brands but knew a lot about watches and watch tech, they would put the two much closer in value.
if you want to split hairs then it's easier to argue you're getting MORE from the seamaster (I'm using PO as reference) in terms of tech and purchasing options. also it's really hard to argue against having an exhibition caseback, anyone saying it doesn't matter or that they prefer a closed back is lying through their teeth.

>> No.15444686

>>15444680
>while offering the same product
Except they're not, they're offering a vastly different product. One is made for people who've made it, the other is made for people who didn't. And everyone knows it.

That's like saying vacationing in Croatia is the same as vacationing in Dubai, after all they both have beaches and sand and water, but one is for the loser, another is for the winner.

>> No.15444690

>want to pull the trigger on an expensive watch
>scared i'll get buyers remorse, despite me loving it right now in the moment
terrified... might just pussy out and buy a 200 dollar nighthawk and forget all about it.

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>>15444650

Would you wear this one?

>> No.15444693

>>15444686
>One is made for people who've made it, the other is made for people who didn't. And everyone knows it.
holy hell the amount of mental gymnastics you have to go through to reach this point

okay reading your second point it's definitely a troll my bad

>> No.15444702

>>15444690
What expensive watch are you looking at?

>> No.15444703

>>15444702
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kjGSOPSxsY

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>>15444650
I just got done watching a documentary about people in 3rd world countries so desperate they are drinking leftover water from the drain so yea you're a snob

there are plenty of "nice enough" watches like the SARBs under 1k. Unless you are doing business with the chinks or a CEO of a large company wanting to impress your underlings it will never matter.

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>>15444686
>hat's like saying vacationing in Croatia is the same as vacationing in Dubai

let me guess, youd go to the muslim filled one?

>> No.15444709

>>15444703
sit on it for a month or so without looking at promotional stuff, if you still want it after that time then get it

>> No.15444712

>>15444703
good luck with the warranty and servicing kek

>> No.15444718

>>15444690
Relax and wait a couple months.
If you still really like it then get it.
If you've cooled off on it then you probably only wanted it as an impulse buy

>> No.15444724

>>15444686
>wearing a Rolex is making it
into middle management
>Dubai is for winners
are Eastern European escorts "winners" now?

>> No.15444727

>>15444724
poorfag cope where's your sub?

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>>15444650
Sorry dude, your unnaffordable luxury watches wont be as efficient and classy as my Royale.

>> No.15444737

>>15444690
Seriously get it, and be sure to dab on all of these fucking penniless holes-in-they-shoes faggots here that constantly blog about their sub 1k trash heaps here. Watches shouldn't be a "participant" sport. Nobody gives a shit about some shit sucker with an 800 dollar quartz seiko that has a plastic composite crystal, this is the big leagues for lack of a better term. Buy your ticket or shut the fuck up forever. What's it going to be?

>> No.15444742

>>15444712
not him but is there anything extra bad about brietling's warranty/service cost?

>> No.15444746

>>15444727
a gypsy snatched it off my wrist while I was vacationing in Dubrovnik. it was a very convincing $30 replica that I was saving up for for months, working double shifts in retail.

>> No.15444748

>>15444737
>brietling is big league
cringe
post your $200,000 HAUTE HOROLOGIE or shut up

>> No.15444749

>>15444378
Deep Blue Master 1000

>> No.15444763

>>15444748
>$200,000 HAUTE HOROLOGIE
And it better be a goddamn Thunderdome too

>> No.15444767

>>15444748
there's actually only one person who can post in this thread and that's the person who owns the most valuable watch on Earth.
everyone else is just a cringe larper

>> No.15444772

>>15444742

No

>> No.15444773

>>15444742
No that idiot is just being a dipshit.

>> No.15444783

>>15444588
Dude you can easily find pre-owned in perfect condition for 3k. Buying new Breitling is throwing your money away.

>> No.15444786

>>15444783
I wish I was good at spotting fakes because I'm scared I'll be owned hard and scammed.

>> No.15444800

>>15444783
>pre-owned
I do ritualistic sexual things to my watches before selling them. Judging by the popularity of the term pre-loved, I might not be the only one. The box and the paperwork are always intact though, I'm a civilized man.

>> No.15444820

>>15444786
>>15444783
is it a thing to ask for a caseback opening before buying?

like meeting up at a local watchmaker and having the movement examined on the spot before money changes hands
i would definitely do that for a $25000 rolex

if people expect movement photos on ebay for $50 russian vintage shitters why not luxury watches costing a hundred times more, right?

>> No.15444827

>>15444820
yeah but if this watch isn't that expensive to them they'll likely just say no because it's inconvenient, not because it's fake

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>> No.15444862

https://www.amazon.ca/Citizen-AT8020-54L-Angels-Stainless-Eco-Drive/dp/B008RNKIV8/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=citizen+blue+angel&qid=1596083268&s=watch&sr=1-1

Thoughts negroes? Looking for a decent-ish chrono.

>> No.15444867

Speedmaster is for those who can't obtain a steel daytona

>> No.15444876

>>15444867
steel daytona is for those who can't obtain a platinum daytona

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Greetings from /g/, boys

>> No.15444902

>he wears a seiko
whats it like being a gutter rat poorfag

>> No.15444951

>>15444862
solid pick for a quartz chrono

>> No.15444953

https://youtu.be/OsFm05MiyTA?t=288

Should I get one of these? It's really cheap for a better-than-Rolex brand.

>> No.15444968

>>15444686
No, people who've "made it" buy Patek, AP, ALS, (or gauche brands like Richard Mille) etc. The steel Sub and the Seamaster are targeted at exactly the same upper middle class demographic, anybody who can reasonably buy a $5k Seamaster can also afford a $9k Sub if they want to. Both watches used to cost pretty much the same too, Rolex just inflated the Sub's price through the roof in the last decade or so without any real justification except that people were willing to pay for it. (It's gone up almost 3k in the last decade and that's accounting for inflation.)

>> No.15445000

>>15444953
which one the video has 3 you autist

>> No.15445012
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Hey dudes I'm in from /frag/. I'm guessing digital watches are frowned upon here but still, whats the go? can someone give me a rundown of what are legit brand from the 80s and 90s? i found a shop today with heaps of digital (and analog) watches sitting around in boxes and i bought these two for $5. I creamed when I saw the Casio was made in Japan, its a 31QR-12. But they had some other stuff as well that I can't find much on. There was a resin Cardinal with an aesthetic 80s pattern, can't find any photos online. And a stainless steel sanyo but it looked old but it was made in China so i dunno. inb4 poorfag.
>>15444686
did you compare dubai to croatia? goddamn dubai is the most boring place i've ever been to and i can't believe someone would use a holiday there as a metric to having made it.

>> No.15445022

>>15444767
The cartel lawyer from Nicaragua or whatever?

>> No.15445026

>>15444953
I'd buy the JLC in a heartbeat if I were looking for something in that bracket. The Breguet is a nice watch but I'm not really feeling it. I hate the El Primero but I've only ever heard good things about them so if you like the look I don't see why not.

>> No.15445029

>>15445000
>which one the video has 3 you autist
The one on the timestamp, JLC Master Compressor.

>> No.15445030

Newish to the watch scene. How the hell did you guys get over the value proposition issue for watches? It seems like any chucklefuck can just buy a bunch of 2824s or 9105s for maybe 150 street, have some cases fabbed and just mark it up to a sweet sweet $1-3k and call themselves a microbrand. (Or real brand. Looking at you Marathon/Traser/etc.) It's not even like it's absurdly expensive at the end of the day, but it just feels so wrong to be getting marked up 5-10x on workhorse pieces with no history, no complications, and no flair.

>> No.15445035

>>15445030
By not buying poorfag "watches" lmdfao

>> No.15445041

>>15445030
it's the same with jewelry. brands with significant craftsmanship are the only ones worth considering, and even if that raises the price at least it's a product I'm happy with.

>> No.15445045

>>15445030
While I agree that microbrands have a decent markup, this holds true for most watches.

However bear in mind that making a watch is not only putting the movement into a case, but creating a specific design, finishing techniques, materials, production means etc all amount to price.

For example, Dan Henry uses Seiko mecaquartzes on $250 pieces, however the dial finishing or glass curvature of his watches is very decently done which can validate the asked price, especially if you like the vintage design of that particular era.

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>>15445045
An example. It looks a lot better in person than that rendering by the way.

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Does a mechanical watch have a value that is fair?

For instance, would someone covet a Rolex if it cost 600$? Furthermore, if it was instantaneously worth 600$ tomorrow, would that put all the mechanicals for 600 and less out of business because everyone would be buying the Rolex instead?

How much is 'status' in society worth, as well as societal perception?

I think if you can answer those questions, then you'll understand why Rolex could never lower their prices, why Omega strives to increase their prices to be a direct competitor, and why small watch companies that impregnate their watches with generic ETA movements will rarely cost less than 500$...

>> No.15445058

>>15445051
Don't forget the fact that the entire heritage meme exists, as well as limited, controlled supply and these alone justify insane price increases.

>> No.15445060

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_ZEozWlPJs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_ZEozWlPJs

>> No.15445063

>>15445051
>>For instance, would someone covet a Rolex if it cost 600$
Yes, I'd buy one right now.

>> No.15445071
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>>15445058
Yup, it's how luxury defines itself. Consider:
1) Diamond industry nearly collapsed during the great depression, and DeBeers and the conglomerate they controlled needed a way to get people to buy diamonds again. So they created the engagement ring, created marketing ideas (3 months wages, diamonds are forever, etc.), paid celebrities to wear this shit (including royalty), and implanted the greatest marketing strategy into the public in the history of mankind. It's pervasive, even to today.

2) During the quartz crisis of the 1970s, many watch brands collapsed or had to be bought out. For years there was no reason to buy an inferior mechanical watch over a technology superior quartz. Then, like magic, during the 90s the reconstituted watch brands recognized that their survival depended upon moving away from 'accuracy' and 'reliability' towards 'heritage' and 'craftsmanship'. It's the only inlet they have, because if one were to recognize what this truly is, one would never pay the prices for a new watch from any of these brands.

>>15445063
So would I. The engineering, R+D, materials, and thought that goes into these watches is easily worth 600$. Is it worth 12,000? Nope. I've handled quite a lot of watches in the range between 6000-15,000 and the problem is that many if not all in this range 'feel' the same if you're dealing with stainless steel. The external finishing is comparable, the bracelets are comfortable and comparable, the winding mechanisms all smooth, the performance comparable, etc. One can argue about the aesthetics and personal taste of what they're looking at, but after owning a GMTII directly alongside owning the Seamaster, it absolutely didn't feel different (aside from being slightly less heavy), and it definitely wasn't worth 3 times the cost in terms of performance, comfort, or anything else. The status was immediately noticed though, especially at work and with clients.

>> No.15445080

>>15445071
I personally think that most watches of this caliber should be "Speedy-priced" i.e. between 3.5k and 5k, when it gets over 5k it's just dumb flexing shit.

>> No.15445085

>>15445051
Fair.

To me, the "status" of the pieces by venerable 100 year old makers are justified by their history, unique expertise, etc, as well as obviously the status of those makers.

Meanwhile, all the people fucking around with cheapo generic movements but marking them up to 4 figures, especially those who make _functional_ watches, are like if some random person got a bunch of scrap rolls of print fabric from fabricland, sewed them into decent but not spectacular shirts, but then priced and marketed them like low end designerwear. They're the jank, low-carat bulk diamond jewelry of watches.

>> No.15445088
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>>15445080
Sadly, even Speedys are overpriced. Given the technology (40 years old) and materials with a complete lack of R+D or anything else, the 861 and 1861 speedy should be roughly 1500-2000 (perhaps 2000 for the sapphire version on bracelet) with a base price of 1250 for the watch on leather. Obviously that would never happen, but that's what it should be given the actual specs. It's a non-hacking manual wind 40 year old cam operated chronograph.

Remember that the Seagull 1963 (and all the variants from China) use a slightly modified Venus 175 column-wheel chronograph, also manual wind. This you can get for 300$ approx, depending on the dealer.

300 for column wheel.....4500 for a cam. One is a shitty chinese brand, one is Swiss. Both have historical interest, but one went to the moon in the Cal. 321 version. Something is obviously wrong with the pricing here.

My Seagull is a wonderful watch, but the cost to service it by my independent watchmaker is more than the cost of the watch...so it's a one-and-done if anything happens to it. That's sad to me. But that's the way these things go.

>> No.15445096
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15445096

it turned up lads woooo
The good:
>still running chronometer specs; 1 sec fast a day
>really nice size, super thin (or at least feels thin)
>the hands weren't as yellow as it appeared in the listing
The Bad:
>bezel is misaligned, will have to see that fixed
Overall tho real fucking cool

>> No.15445108
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>>15445085
I can understand that, and I'm saying that as someone who also pays a portion of the high fees like most other people. When I first got the Mark 40, I was using it side by side to the Seagull, and the difference was absolutely noticeable. The Seagull was poorly finished, unremarkable aesthetically, but it performed well. The Omega was (by comparison) much better finished, more intricate, with a movement that 'felt' more robust (I mean...it's unfair to compare really as it's a modified Valjoux 7751 vs. a modified Venus 175). But the two were definitely not worth the same price, regardless of the performance. The casing, bracelet vs. none, etc....all of it added up. To me the problem that Anons earlier were discussing was how much of a markup is tolerable before it becomes obscene.

For a specific watch of concern, consider the Laco Flieger. For many of the movements, they house ETA generics like my older Seamaster. These perform well, and can be regulated to within COSC if one so wishes. So, as much as anyone could ask for in a mechanical watch. Laco also has an historical value of a sort, being one of the 5 producers of Fliegers in Germania. Their prices however are not extravagant. Would Anons on this thread consider Lacos to be 'fair' in terms of their pricing for what you get?

I'm genuinely curious...

>>15445096
CONGRATS ANON!! I remember you asking about that one a week ago or so. Yeah, the Seamasters are thin, like wearing a large coin on your wrist. The bezel can always be fixed...it pops out, but make sure you get a watchmaker to do it properly. To fill you in: I sent the Mark 40 in for servicing to Omega...I figured might as well do it now before they raise the prices on us.

>> No.15445115
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15445115

Maybe I should be more precise:

The Laco Memmingen is 1190$ on their website (USD), 42mm handwinding Flieger style A. Simple, and a perfect rendition in my eyes of a traditional Flieger A. It uses the ETA 2801.2 (Elaboré). Sapphire Crystal.

Is it worth $1190? In my eyes, that's reasonable but I think it's really worth around 800$. As I'd never get the 45mm (which is closer to the historical watch of 55mm but is technically unwearable on my wrist), the 42mm seems like a nice compromise. No logo on the front or anything...it looks like a true flieger.

What do you Anons think?

>Now that I look at the website, I had no idea I could customize it...I can put the crown on the left...or get a sapphire crystal backing...hmmm....

>> No.15445117

>>15445108
I wanted a cheap flieger just to check off some boxes, I could have gone for a much cheaper San Martin, Steeldive, Matarac, Tisell or whatever, but I bought a Laco Augsburg recently, which has a Miyota but is priced at €340. The ETA edition that also has better lume application is priced at around €1100, which I think is not that competitive compared to a Stowa flieger.

Overall though I'm very happy with it. Laco, like you said, has true ~100 year old history, and that is the main reason I got that one, authenticity just inexplicably feels good.

>> No.15445133
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>>15445117
Both Laco and Stowa are good options for Fliegers, and their ETA run watches are comparable in price from what I've seen. It seems like the determining factor between the two is the actual aesthetics.

As long as you're happy with it and it makes you smile when you look at the time, then that's all that really matters. I'm just curious what Anons think about the concept of 'value', with this specific watch by Laco.

Gotta run.

>Pic related makes me smile even though it's run by a generic ETA

>> No.15445138

>>15444680
No man, I really don't want a display caseback for a sportswatch. Being clumsy it's just someyhing I would break.
Had a sub and a semenmaster and regret selling the semenmaster much much more than selling the sub. It was more comfortable, better looking in many ways and not as obviously an expensive watch as the sub. I Iiked how it was a little more undercover.

>> No.15445140 [DELETED] 

>here's the winding key to your $5k travel clock bro

I've had nicer keyhangers as a kid.

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>>15444692
I'm a sucker for a high-end quartz, and a sucker for FP Journe.
But that thing is just too gay looking.

>> No.15445151
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15445151

>here's the winding key to your $5k travel clock bro

I've had nicer keyhangers as a kid.

>> No.15445152

>>15444692
I'm a sucker for a high-end quartz, and a sucker for FP Journe.
But that thing is just too gay looking.

>> No.15445172

>>15444397
You don't need a rolex when you have six identical Patek's.

>> No.15445193

5 identical Hodinkee winding keys

>> No.15445194

>FP Journe
>muh heritage
If their watches didn't have the FP Journe branding, more often than not, it looks like some aliexpress Chinese shitter

>> No.15445195

>>15444686
>That's like saying vacationing in Croatia is the same as vacationing in Dubai, after all they both have beaches and sand and water, but one is for the loser, another is for the winner.
Lol, please be trolling.
Dubai is a shithole full of goatfuckers and camel herders that only became relevant due to an accident of history. No culture, no taste, nothing to do besides spending money. Yeah sure, there’s beaches, but they’re shit and you can only use them because they’re fenced of an foreigners only, lest the primitive locals go crazy upon the sight of a topless female.
Dubai is only worth visiting for the same reasons as Las Vegas:
To awe at the sheer crazyness of the human race (ok, and maybe for a trip to their respective deserts around them).

>> No.15445198

>>15444707
>2 bars on the heater and a rollie
This guy don't have to care about the electricity bills!

>> No.15445202

>>15445108
>Would Anons on this thread consider Lacos to be 'fair' in terms of their pricing for what you get?
They're ugly as shit.

>> No.15445203

>>15445012
>I'm guessing digital watches are frowned upon here but still, whats the
no, digital watches arent reafrowned upon here and most people here own casios or gshocks
smartwatches are frowned upon here though
timex, casio, seiko, texas instruments
im not a digital expert

>Cardinal
it was a digital? all i know is that they are a canadian brand , their old mechanical watches were swiss but later they started to use russian

>> No.15445208

>>15445088

You can service Seagulls and Vostoks by yourself. Just follow some instructions on youtube.

You aren't really a watch geek if you cannot even service your Chinese beater watch.

>> No.15445211

>>15444338
>what's the time?
>oh right. I'm too rich to give a fuck.
they're also a good way to move massive amounts of money through airport security

>> No.15445213

>>15445208
Vostoks: probably (currently trying to figure out what I need to do for mine), but the seagull we’re talking about is a chrono and they’re quite hard to service (hence the high price) so it’s very likely that you’re going to fuck up.

>> No.15445214

>>15445202
Maybe you don't like fliegers? Their design hasn't changed in over 80 years.

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>>15445214
Nope. I like this.

>> No.15445223

>>15445151
This key unironically has a more interesting decoration.

>> No.15445224

>>15445203
yeah it was a digital. will probs just go back and buy it. the only thing i know about cardinal are their perfumes.

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>>15445223
whoops

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>>15445108
>Would Anons on this thread consider Lacos to be 'fair' in terms of their pricing
hmm idk. Its hard to justify spending money on such a simple utilitarian design like the flieger (considering san martin has a nh35 one for $150 right now (on sale)). Its not like these watches have typically have branding on them either

yes its a ETA, but if im going to get an ETA it would probably be on a dress watch or something fancier.

>>15445208
>servicing a seagull is easy
right...........you can try. its a lot more complicated than a vostok one.

>> No.15445230
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15445230

6'2 is the cutoff for being a manlet, what's the cutoff for being a wristlet?

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15445231

>Your order has been updated to the following status:
>Shipped
Let's see how it takes.

>> No.15445234
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15445234

>Your order has been updated to the following status:
>Shipped
Let's see how long it takes.

>> No.15445236

>>15445230
6.5" and below = definite wristlet

>> No.15445242

>>15445234
Just think of all the puss you'll abduct and keep confined in your rape dungeon with this.

>> No.15445249

>>15445242
Can't wait.
But I did order an extra black bezel as well in case the grille looks too ridiculous.

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15445263

>>15445236
>mfw 6.25"

>> No.15445272

>>15445263
Just wear it over your sleeve, nobody will notice your wrists then.

>>15445230
I don't know but I think 7 inches is the perfect size to pull off basically every style and size of watch.

>> No.15445279

>>15444840
Why not just wear a reverso?

>> No.15445334
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15445334

The Seiko Prospex SNR045J1 Is A Connoisseur’s Hulk Substitute

>Seiko’s quest to shift both their cachet and price point has taken another giant leap forward with the launch of the limited edition Seiko Prospex SNR045J1. Upon first glance, many will note similarities with the grossly overpriced Green Rolex Submariner – except this watch differs in many ways. Firstly, it costs less than half of what you’d pay for an aftermarket Hulk. Secondly, it’s made of titanium and has a wonderfully textured dial. Third and finally, it’s limited to just 500 pieces – so you can be certain there won’t be 15 other dudes wearing it at The Bot on a Friday night.

>With a 44.8mm x 15.7mm titanium case, the SNR045J1 comes with a shitload of heft. But never fear, as it also happens to be “shockingly light” according to James Robinson of Time & Tide. So much so that with closed eyes, you’d apparently think it was no larger than a standard 40mm timepiece. Those who do take issue with its dimensions will quickly find the forgiveness in their heart once they lay eyes on that striking unidirectional rotating bezel, the forest green dial, and gorgeous finish.

>Powered by Seiko’s 5R65 Spring calibre movement, one can expect 72 hours of power reserved with both a date and power reserve function. Water-resistant at depths of up to 300 metre/1,000ft for saturation diving, visibility won’t exactly be an issue for those plunging into aquatic exploration. The dial, hands, indices, and bezel are all coated with Seiko’s LumiBrite – a “long-lasting” luminous substance which claims to be “completely free of radioactive materials”.

>The Seiko Prospex SNR045J1 is currently priced at $9,400 and limited to just 500 pieces.

thoughts..??

>> No.15445356

>>15445334
the rolex hulk is an unbelievably ugly watch so it's not hard to be better than it

>> No.15445365
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15445365

>>15445334

>> No.15445366

>>15445356
>the rolex hulk is an unbelievably ugly watch
yet everyone wants to imitate it
haters gonna hate

>> No.15445370

>>15445356
*in your opinion* which obviously given just how many watchex Rolex sell is in a minority.

>> No.15445371

>>15445334
>>15445365
It's beautiful but then your eyes hit the crown which is strangely oversized. The crown is very industrial looking and its large size is probably a holdover from the original design of the watch which I think was actually done by an industrial designer so you have this huge tooltastic crown that's easy to grip with gloves or a wetsuit on. But when you refine the design with this elaborate algae forest dial it starts to clash with the rest of it.
Still very nice looking.

>> No.15445381

I got ~300.
I'm looking at either a working secondhand 1970 Grand Seiko 65 from some Japanese lad who took good care of it or should I go with something like an Omega?
I'm quite torn, even though it's a good deal.

>> No.15445394

>>15445381
pics?

>> No.15445397

>>15445394
Shouldve done that in the first place, my b.
Also it's a 56 not a 65.

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>>15445394
>>15445397
And I forgot the picture too.
I'm on a roll today

>> No.15445408

>>15445334
>>15445365
It definitely looks nice, even if I'm not a huge fan of 4'oclock crowns.

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15445414

>>15445371
>but then your eyes hit the crown which is strangely oversized.
now i cant unsee it

>> No.15445418

>>15445414
The hands (especially hour) are oversized, the bezel is oversized.
The whole thing about those Seiko subs is that they're too fucking thick.

>> No.15445448

>>15445418
That's the point, retard. It's a huge overbuilt dive watch from an industrial designer. Crown is too big though.

>> No.15445457

>>15445414
Nothing is perfect

>> No.15445472

>>15445334
I like it but the "real" grand seiko divers look even better.
How much is it? I'd wear that for about 2k €.

>> No.15445479

>>15445472
it's a special limited edition of 500 pieces that costs like 10K

>> No.15445514

>>15444686
Have you ever been to Dubai? It’s not that great. I’d much rather go to a Southeast Asian shithole where at least the food is good.

>> No.15445517

>>15445479
Hard pass at 10k for me.

>> No.15445519

>>15445514
not him but isnt ME food supposed to be good? like full of spices and shit

>> No.15445528

>>15445519
>isnt ME food supposed to be good?
Do you like spicy brown paste?

>> No.15445535

>>15445517
yeah it's a big ask. personally i'd think about it for 5k even though money is really tight for me at the moment but at 10 I can't justify it in these covid times

>> No.15445567
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15445567

>>15445408
i like 4oclock crowns
here is orient's LE saturation diver ($2k)

>>15445535
theres one on chrono for ~$6k+
but yea.....

>> No.15445570

>>15445519
ME food is nice but Dubai is just a commercialised shit hole. most food places are american (also jollybees for some reason). i remember someone called it a big shopping mall once and thats about right.

>> No.15445572

Do you think I'll be happy with a Seiko instead of spending 3K+ on a preowned Brietling or Rolex? Generally speaking of course.

>> No.15445576

>>15445572
Depending on the Seiko, yes. A watch is an expression of the self.

>> No.15445578

>>15445572
If you have never worn a Rolex you would be happy with a Seiko but once you've owned a good watch it's much harder to then lower your standards.

>> No.15445580
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15445580

9'oclock crowns are the superior option

>> No.15445592

>>15445572
there are (grand)seikoes nicer than any rolex or breitlings...

but if you are talking about entry-mid level seikos (<$2000)
why not
the worth of a watch is not in its pricetag
a $50 vintage shitter can bring you more joy than a soulless modern luxury watch
its about perspective and appreciation

>> No.15445595

>>15445572
>actually buying a seiko
couldnt even pay me to wear such trash, even the GS is disgusting kek

>> No.15445604

>>15445595
1/10
you gonna try harder

>> No.15445605

>>15445572
If you have to ask, buy the Brietling or the Rolex. You're clearly too stupid for Seiko.

>> No.15445608

>>15445592
This. I know several people who got Rolexs but they just keep them in a safe or watchbox and wear them like two times a year because they think they are too precious and don't want to hurt possible resale value like it's a fucking gold bar and not a watch, then for daily wear they have some beater which is sometimes also a luxury watch, just doesn't have muh Rolex branding. In the end the beater is probably more valuable since they are traveling to all kinds of places with it and wearing it to all sorts of occasions while the Rolex is a safe queen

>> No.15445614
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15445614

>>15444506
Neat. The dial design is good. They could use even more plastic if they offered a plastic oyster bracelet, like those ice watches.

>> No.15445618

>>15445604
thats what i tell people who wear bargain bin trash

>> No.15445620
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15445620

>>15445618
unless you are wearing this $700,000 RM watch your watch is also bargain bin trash.

>> No.15445621

>>15444339
>Cut numerals
>no lume
>probably not a lot of wr

>> No.15445622

>>15445621
why would a dress watch need lume and WR

stupid

>> No.15445626

>>15445622
>what is humidity
>what is parties happen at night

retard

>> No.15445645

>>15445365
>>15445334
The dial looks like trees and shit. I like it.

>> No.15445649

>>15445620
Holy shit, those hands, hilarious.

>> No.15445650

>>15445572
Yes, the Rolex won't run away even if you wear a Seiko for 10 years.
Also keep in mind that the man makes the watch and not the other way around. Getting a Rolex now wouldn't make your status any better or make you any more powerful.

>> No.15445659

>>15445479
Artificial shortage is the worst argument for such incredibly jewish prices.

>> No.15445663

>>15445414
>10K for dogshit proportions, retardo thick case and gigantic knob on the side

It's like there was no thought involved at all, just slapped together shit from the parts bin and painted it different.

>> No.15445664

>>15445608
>they just keep them in a safe or watchbox and wear them like two times a year because they think they are too precious and don't want to hurt possible resale value
Is it wrong that this makes me super mad?

>> No.15445670

>>15445663
>make a bunch of "limited special edition" watches for 500 dollars each
>sell them for 10 thousand dollars each
It's easy money for Seiko.

>> No.15445677

>>15445664
No. This is actually really common among Rolexfags, the watch is like a holy fucking object to them that they're afraid of getting scuffed or stolen so they only wear them to house parties. Ironically 50 year old office boomers who buy a Rolex because "it's what Bond wears" are getting more enjoyment out of their Rolex because they wear that shit everywhere

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15445680

>>15444335
Swiss mountain niggers btfo
The future is high end quartz

>> No.15445681

>>15445664
Nope. It's just how poor middleclass goyem enjoys watches. These people have no soul, thus unable to appreciate a thing. So the emulate it but they just got memed into the watches=investment scam.

They saved up for months, had to be super nice to wifey and let her have a few extra rounds with the bull. Once she finally said yes, they then had to prep the salesmen at the rolex AD to get on the waiting list.

>>15445670
True. Fansöys hyped seiko up for years now. Seiko understood and is milking these cultish retards. They buy that POS and probably think that it will be worth 15K+, years later.

>> No.15445686

>>15445680
The finishing on the hands could be nicer.

>> No.15445688

>>15445663
>retardo thick case
you mean like the rolex maxi case?

>> No.15445692

>>15445680
>he removed the bracelet then put a $20 nato on it

why

>> No.15445693

>>15445686
the brushing is probably intentional. The indices and edges are all mirrored

>> No.15445698
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15445698

Navitimer or GS Diver?

>> No.15445699

>>15445664
>Is it wrong that this makes me super mad?
Yes, cause it shouldn't even matter to you.

>> No.15445703

>>15445698
I know movement and build quality is much better on the Grand Seiko but damned if the x8 pricetag is worth it over the regular Seiko PROSPEX

>> No.15445704

>>15445703
Spring Drive is really cool.
I hope in the next decade it becomes cheaper and more accessible.

>> No.15445705

>>15445699
"Investment" fags are keeping the prices high tho.

>> No.15445706

>>15445680
Is it wrong that I kind of want to sell most of my ok watches and just buy this instead? It'll pretty much last me until I die without having to be touched apart from a battery change.

>> No.15445710

>>15445706
many dream of having the one watch but it's an impossible dream. you could have the greatest watch on the planet and you will still feel the itch to buy some shitter with a kitsch dial.

>> No.15445713
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>>15445680
>The future is high end quartz
Then you should post some high end quartz

>> No.15445716

>>15445677
The boomers are right. If i pay so much for such a BS i will make sure to enjoy it as much as i could.

There is a youtuber, diresta, he wears his i guess 10K, older rolex to the shop and it gets banged and sratched. Pretty based.

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>>15445572

first become happy, then buy a seiko or whatever you like!

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>>15445677
As a millennial my Bond wore an Omiiiga so I'm getting one when I'm 40 for larping.

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>>15445722
>loading the pic
>"jesus, what a weird crown"

>> No.15445734

>>15445730
Goldeneye was an incredible film

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>>15445734
The best.

>> No.15445763

>>15445680
>>15445713
You can be as autistic as you want but no one in the real world cares about quartz.

>> No.15445764

>>15445713
>wearing a brand that's called citizen

Nasty and uncool

>> No.15445768

>>15445764
My dad wears a Citizen because he is an immigrant and was proud of obtaining citizenship

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not a fan of the brand CITIZEN

>> No.15445772

>>15445400
If you can live with the slight discoloration on the dial, that seems to be in excellent shape. If it's running well and the calendar quickset is working, go for it.

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>>15445680
Grand Seiko series has some extremely aesthetic watches. If I was going to increase my usual budget for a dress watch, they'd be one of my first stops for sure.

>> No.15445784

>>15445763
High end quartz is
>More accurate
>Doesn't stop if not worn often
>Doesn't need service every 2 years
>Finished like any luxury item
>Doesn't cost a kidney


Automatic watches are the biggest ripoff of the current decade.

And also very autistic if you stop and really think about it.

>> No.15445787

>>15445768
Kek
I almost spit my coffe all over the screen

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>>15445572
Impossible to tell. As others have eluded to, it's all about the man (or woman) wearing it. It's less about budget than personality. If I wore an expensive piece people would probably wonder if I was having a mid-30s life crisis because it's not my style. On the other hands I have friends who ran out and bought a 5k-10k watch with the first real career promotion that allowed them to comfortably do so and for most of them, the watch is fitting (not in a bad way). Find your style and then find a watch that compliments it. If you're the type of person who is worried about someone's impression of you based on the vehicle you drive, clothes and watches you wear, etc...a luxury watch might be fitting. Again, not a judgement on those who prefer that look/lifestyle.

>> No.15445792

>>15445784
And yet whenever someone has $20k to spend on a watch they go for mechanical. Only a tiny tiny fraction of buyers so for a high end quartz.

>> No.15445809

>>15445705
Simps gotta simp

>> No.15445817

>>15445764
I always imagine scenes of The Law Abiding Citizen whenever I see that name.

>> No.15445823

>>15445792
That's their problem, i'm not retarded like them.

>> No.15445832

>>15445620
This legit looks like a toy watch.

>> No.15445846

>>15445572
No.

I was never happy until I bought a $25,000 Vacheron Constantin, and even now I'm seriously considering buying another watch from them.

You will never find happiness because you, like me, are intrinsically materialistic.

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>>15445823
>>15445784
*if* im going to spend $20k, 40k on a watch it better be the one with the complicated spinning gear things in it

most(all?) watches in that range are handwind-able also anyway.

also its romantic
your movement is powering the watch
you are giving the watch life
and when you put it next to your ear you can hear its heartbeat

>> No.15445852

>>15445823
I think you need to go back to /g/, it seems to be where you belong.

>> No.15445854

>>15445703
People concerned with status and jewelry will argue otherwise. People who care about acceptable accuracy, function and reliability would agree. Owning a GS would be fucking rad though.

>> No.15445855

>>15445852
not him but theres no more /wt on g

/fa is better anyway
theres less autism and more variety here

>> No.15445856

>>15445847
Meh, the “soul” argument is stupid.

>> No.15445863

>>15445832
All Richard Milles look like toys yet they command insane prices. Literally a million dollars sometimes. The worst part is, that those photos actually make them look better. In real life they look even more like toys.

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>>15444335
how’s dan henry 1964?
Planning to buy one as I never have a chronograph

>> No.15445867

>>15445856
Sentimental value means a lot to people, far more than material cost. People get attached to objects all the time.

>> No.15445869

>>15445784
Reality and facts don't matter to these people, they want a Rolex because the ad told them to buy a Rolex.

They're zombies, plain and simple. It goes:
Watch fans > normalfags who buy designer watches because pretty colors > rich idiots with money to burn > People who buy automatic watches because they want to pretend they're "into" watches.

If more than 10% of your collection is mechanical, you're in the lowest category.

>> No.15445872

>>15445784
absolutely nobody in this world services their seiko5 every 2 years what are you talking about. they can run for 10 years

>>15445869
cope

>> No.15445877

>>15445869
Why are you so mad that people can afford and like nice things?

>> No.15445881

>>15445877
Automatics aren't "nice". They're outdated garbage, if you walk around with one on your wrist you're no better than some guy who thinks he's Steampunk Steve with a pocket watch.

It's thanks to idiots like you that "high end" watches are almost all outperformed by 10 dollar Casios. Imagine how many great watches we'd have by now if companies stayed with the times.

>> No.15445884

>>15445847
>Romantic
Ofcourse, the swiss watchmakers would love to be romantic with your wife after you gave them your money for a watch that literally can't keep time

> Movement powering the watch
That's a problem not a feature, because when you don't wear it, it stops
> Giving it life
Life is genetic code that makes copies of itself, and the only thing you're giving is your lifesavings to the mountain autistic niggers

> You hear the heartbeat

If you come Closer you'll hear also the swiss laughing all the way to the bang

>> No.15445887

>>15445881
>Imagine how many great watches we'd have by now if companies stayed with the times.
>if companies stayed with the times.

then you would have nothing but smartwatches
you would be able to talk to your SO through your smartwatch while taking a shit and having your brain blasted with radiation

>> No.15445891

>>15445881
> They're outdated garbage
So is quartz. Mechanical is not outdated, it's antiquated which is very different. It's takes craftmanship to produce. Being an unneccasry technology is literally a large part of the reason people like it.

>> No.15445894

Those of you with multiple watches, what do you keep them in?
Can anyone recommend a watch box with space for 6+ watches that's under $60

>> No.15445895

>>15445887
Smartwatches are a failed abortion of a product idea because they're fundamentally a return to the hell that was automatic watches. Take your watch off for the night? Nope, you've got to put it in a cuck box overnight to recharge it.

>>15445891
Quartz isn't outdated for wrist watches.

>Being an unneccasry technology is literally a large part of the reason people like it.
You like it because some ad told you to like it. If you had even half a braincell, you'd understand why it's outdated.

>> No.15445900

>>15445891
Quartz is outdated? What wrist portable device has replaced it?

>> No.15445902

>>15445894
Just go on Amazon, there are hundreds of watch boxes that fit your criteria.

>>15445895
Of course quartz is outdated. The movement inside any fashion watch costs less than $2 to produce. It is 1960's integrated circuit technology and hasn't been improved on since.

>> No.15445904

>>15445900
In the market segment quartz watches used to dominate it is now all about smart watches.

>> No.15445907

>>15445904
Those still use quartz crystals. Even when they sync with an atomic clock or gps somewhere, it still has quartz in it as a necessary component.

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>>15445894
i bought a 12 slotter off taobao for a mere $13

its laminated plywood (feels like real wood on the surface actually) and acrylic. (i had wanted glass but didnt read the fine print)

anyway that should give you a rough idea of how cheap these things actually are

it turns out that GOOD WOOD and REAL GLASS is kinda expensive and the same thing, handmade, would have costed me $250++ on etsy. So maybe one day in the far future I will upgrade.

>> No.15445911

>>15445902
>It is 1960's integrated circuit technology and hasn't been improved on since.
There have been plenty of improvements made to the gear train since, though.

Something is only considered outdated when a replacement offers better performance. You might as well say that the spoon is outdated because it's a few thousand years old.

>> No.15445912

>>15445907
There is also a quartz crystal on your PC motherboard but so what? There are also several hundred million or billions or other transistors too in a smart watch.

>> No.15445916

>>15445912
Outdated means there is a modern replacement that is much better. There is no replacement for a quartz watch, because even a smartwatch is quartz. What are you trying to pull here, are you just upset because someone said the mechanical watches you love so much are outdated?

On a side note, why are watchfags so good at understanding the ins and outs of watches, but display extreme stupidity for every other piece of technology out there? You can see it in the cringe analogies they make every now and then.

>> No.15445917

>>15445916
They don't even understand watches, because if they did they wouldn't own any mechanicals. What you're talking to is the equivalent of an audiophile who thinks everything sounds better on vinyl, and all his purchasing decisions are based around that fundamental misunderstanding.

>> No.15445921

>>15445916
Actually the (quartz) RTC stores the local clock but it's only used as a guide. In active use a watch or phone keeps its clock in sync by using a network based protocol like NTP because the RTC is never accurate enough.

>> No.15445933

>>15445917
No audiophile would say vinyl is a better technology than say a CD when it comes to bitrate. It however does sound different and some people prefer that but it is totally a personal preference.

>> No.15445934

>>15445917
I own quartz and mechanicals

>> No.15445940

>>15445620
* Prospective buyer must first provide a photo of their action figure collection room.

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>>15445940
there are unironically 100,000 dollar spiderman watches
https://www.ablogtowatch.com/rj-brings-spider-man-to-haute-horlogerie-with-two-new-limited-edition-models/

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>>15445947
if i were a spidey fan i would get this INVICTA instead

>> No.15445972

>>15445947
* or their comic library room.

My day is ruined.

>> No.15445992

>>15445908
those look ok. I have a mahogany wood watch box.

>> No.15445995

>>15445964
too small should be at least 72mm

>> No.15445996

>>15445992
ya but its not glass and pure unaltered wood so my OCD doesnt sit right

how much did you pay for yours

>> No.15446000

>>15445917
No one gets a mechanical for technological superiority. It's usually to stare at gears/moving jewelry or a way of feeling more cultured and superior.

>> No.15446002

>>15445996
around $350 I think. It was a while ago.

>> No.15446008

>>15446002
I should add its has an upper part with a glass display that holds 12 watches and a lower drawer that holds cufflinks and other stuff.

>> No.15446038

What are some good quartz watches with stainless titanium or gold case and bracelets. Talking 150-500

>> No.15446039

>>15445371
>>It's beautiful but then your eyes hit the crown which is strangely oversized. The crown is very industrial looking and its large size is probably a holdover from the original design of the watch which I think was actually done by an industrial designer so you have this huge tooltastic crown that's easy to grip with gloves or a wetsuit on. But when you refine the design with this elaborate algae forest dial it starts to clash with the rest of it.
Except it doesn't clash at all retard, it's all perfectly proportional.

>> No.15446059

The girl walks away with the guy with the Rolex, and he drives her back to his parent's house in his M3!......... The girl walks away with the guy with the JLC, and he drives her back to his house in nightsbridge in his Aston Martin!

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>>15446002
>>15446008
that sounds like a good price
a 12slot+glass+drawer is like $230 on etsy
and it doesnt even say what the wood is (mystery)

>> No.15446066

>>15445791
>If I wore an expensive piece people would probably wonder if I was having a mid-30s life crisis because it's not my style.
Ouch, this sounds like you dress like a poorfag and talk like a poorfag and do poorfag things. Are you actually still a poorfag... in your mid thirties? Why even live if that's the case?

>> No.15446072

>>15446066
imagine being this superficial
its better to live a life you are comfortable with, than pretend to be a person you are not
there will -always- be someone richer than you so if you are getting happiness from that its kinda futile and hollow

>> No.15446074

>>15445894
>6+ watches that's under $60
Dude just sell your shitters and buy one decent watch instead... or maybe invest in some education if you're so poor that you can't even afford a good watch box.

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Thoughts on the Black Bay Bronze? Thinking about picking one up but am concerned that it could look like shit in a few years with patina

>> No.15446076

>>15446062
You know you can literally make one or commission the dude at the local wood shop to make you one for like $20 right?

>> No.15446078

>>15446066
>>15446074
you are that one depressive 3rd world guy who tries to split the thread by pitting poor vs rich

fuck off

>> No.15446079

>>15446072
Yeah but there will always be someone poorer than me to shit on... like you HAHAHA.

>> No.15446083

>>15446072
How can someone be comfortable being poor and looking poor and getting all the reactions poor people get from the world and society? Sounds like living hell.

>> No.15446086

>>15445947
>Pikachu watch
>Batman watch
>Pokémon tourbillon
>Super Mario watch
>Pacman watch
Props to Romain Jerome for realising there's a lot of rich Reddit manchildren around and hardly anyone is REALLY making an effort to milk them for huge amounts.

>> No.15446098

>>15445138
>breaking a display caseback
is this a meme? you know they're made of sapphire right?

>> No.15446102

well im in singapore there are no local wood shops
its a hive-city-state
its not like usa/eu where there are garages and hardware supply stores. Here the "hardware stores" only sell ready made products and not materials, I would have to get someone in malaysia or china to do it

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>>15445947

>> No.15446105

>>15446102
>>15446076

>> No.15446106

>>15446102
I doubt that, I saw documentaries and you have sweatshop manufactures and slaves everywhere. Just knock on an unmarked door.

>> No.15446112

>>15446038
Okay any good quartz watches in dial colors
Orange
Red yellow

Like the seiko sne109 butnit jumped back over 300 after discontinuation and is hard to find used

>> No.15446117

>>15446112
what style?
there are a million brightly coloured quartz watches

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15446121

We should make a separate thread named
>/ss/ Status Signaling
>Arguing about who's got more money and the more expensive watch

Maybe then we could talk about watches here. I didn't come here to read about retarded faggots arguing over who's more of a poorfag. Just fuck off and stop shitting the place up. Nobody cares.

>> No.15446173

>>15446121
There's one anon who does this d&c bullshit in every thread trying to derail them, and unfortunately it usually works

>> No.15446180

>>15446117
I think I sort of settled on a couple divers. Gonna take a run at a victorinox inox yellow and a seiko sne109 orange probably this week. Should be fun out there watches to wear and nice not to have to fiddle with them so much. Would like something in red though maybe a chrono but something metallic or fire engine red, louder than the usual maroon

>> No.15446183

>>15446075
>concerned that it could look like shit in a few years with patina
People pay more for "real" patina. It's probably the only Tudor I really like, so I'd get it but that's really just personal taste. There are a lot of nice watches you could get for the same price point.

>> No.15446193

>>15446066
I'm not an extremely wealthy man, but I'm far from poor. I spend and live well below my means for the most part. It sounds like you are obsessed with outwardly expressing your wealth status, which is typically a trait associated with those who are either new to money or who wish to convey that they have more than they do.

>> No.15446196

>>15445866
>how’s dan henry 1964?
I think they're really good value for the price, and are great for a daily beater

>> No.15446209

>>15446193
>I spend and live well below my means for the most part.
Why? Inferiority complex?

>> No.15446217

>>15446193
dont respond to the troll.
hes actually a jealous+bitter guy from some 3rd world shithole and he tried to beg for money a dozen threads ago

nobody real talks like that

>> No.15446229

>>15446217
So.... if I understand this correctly, you're against people flaunting wealth and status but you're trying to win an argument by flaunting your (unearned because you're not from a "3rd world shithole") wealth and status compared to the other guy...?

>> No.15446234

>>15446121
Only that one rich guy with the rings or the EDC Vacheron guy actually shows off their expensive watches. I’m convinced most of the people calling each other poorfags are insecure college kids.

>> No.15446242

>>15446180
have fun, there should be quite a few choices, like edifice/ecodrive or whatever
im not super familiar with quartz so cant help you out much

>> No.15446247

>>15446234
>EDC Vacheron guy
That's an asian girl larping as a spy, I shit you not

>> No.15446248

>>15446209
Inferiority complex would mean someone spends and lives beyond their means, not below them.

>> No.15446255

>>15446217
Good point, I'm usually good about not taking the bait but felt the urge to this time. Is /wg/ fake flex general?

>> No.15446260

New
>>15446259
>>15446259
>>15446259

>> No.15446277

>>15446255
/wg/ is for calling anyone with a watch cheaper than yours a poorfag, anyone with a watch more expensive than yours a retard who bought into bloated prices, and call every watch that isn't yours a complete shitter

>> No.15446334

>>15445908
You can make a box like that yourself for 50$

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>>15445151
>not engraving Hondinkey on it

>> No.15446417

>>15445866
Good, some people argue that its kinda overpriced, but it looks great, especially the glass, and the proportions are also top notch
Only negative is the 19mm lug width, but that's no biggie

>> No.15446442

>>15446098
Sapphire doesn't scratch but it's not hard to break at all.

>> No.15446525

>>15445933
in theory, but in practice vinyl ends up with more dynamics 9/10 times cuz of noise war compression and the people mastering vinyl records actually giving a shit. People prefer vinyl on the Steve Hoffman audiophile forum by a wide margin.

>> No.15446620

>>15446075
Looks fine, I like it's vague root beer scheme. The problem is the difficulty in wearing it fashionably, I would have it as a strict summer only short sleeve shirt watch.

>> No.15447111

>>15446075
I'm usually loathe to predict a 'future classic' but this would be up there.
Bronze case, original (as in for Tudor, obviously got Explorer vibes) dial in a dive watch and unusual colour scheme.
It'll be between this and the BB 36 for popularizing smaller watches again, just as Rolex had made them thick as shit and maxi cases.

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Hello frens. Trying to get my first watch so I will need something I can use daily for now. Budget is <$300. Also I'm a wristlet. Pic related is exactly what I am looking for (strap, shape, etc.). Found it on CreationWatches for $329 so might pull the trigger. What do?

>> No.15447137

>>15447128
Skx013 are cool watches. I'd say go for it.
The only thing I don't like is no hacking/handwinding but should you want to change that you can at a later point.

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>>15445236
>tfw just over 6.5"

>> No.15447307

>>15446083
Not that bad desu.
>>15446075
I like it. Kind of tempted by the bronze archimedes flieger myself.

>> No.15447309

>>15446247
I thought it was proven that it wasn't and it's some autistic anon larping as an an girl pretending to be a spy

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>>15445236
Tell that to Stallone, this is him wearing a 50mm RM dive watch.