/fa/ - Fashion

[Anonymous No.15248385]

Why are men's fashion so boring

[Anonymous No.15248440]

Because most men don't give a fuck about it and only wear generic mallcore crap.
Once you start getting into custom-made clothing and weird vintage stuff, the amount of variety is practically endless.

[Anonymous No.15248494]

>>15248385
implying womens fashion is any better? most people just dont really care. In terms of the amount of options you have, nothings stopping you from putting on woman clothes

[Anonymous No.15248517]

because every man is trashed on and called a faggot everytime he tries to put on something that is considered unusual

[Anonymous No.15248601]

>>15248385
it's not you're probably just too pussy to wear anything besides denim and a tee shirt. also >>15248517

[Anonymous No.15248612]

>>15248385
"I don't understand men or women, or the masculine or feminine principles", the post

[Anonymous No.15248616]

>>15248385
It's really not, maybe go outside.

Women wear - T shirts, tanks, Jackets, Hoodies, Jeans, leggings, Sweatpants, Shorts.

Men wear - T shirts, Tanks, Jackets, Hoodies, Jeans, Sweatpants, Shorts.

[Anonymous No.15248621]

>>15248517
He's not though, you're just insecure and imagine this is what would happen.

[Anonymous No.15248721]

>>15248517
This is 100% the case if you live in certain places. This was definitely the case for me growing up in Europe.

[Anonymous No.15248734]

>>15248385
Everything and anything can look good on women

[Anonymous No.15248741]

>>15248385
cuz u don't know anything about fashion or designers

[Anonymous No.15248804]

>>15248621
no anon, im quite the opposite i honestly dgaf and wear what i want thats why im constantly being called a larper here, bc its honestly more fun to be a larper than to dissolve with the background.
also i live in portugal so i know well what it feels like to wear smth that gets me constant stares and comments when im walking down a street.
but you cant deny there is this culture around menswear that mandates for it to be simpler and toned down, a man who stands out a bit is automatically considered flamboyant and other men stay away from getting out of the norm bc they dont want to be judged that way, making the menswear market very stagnant.
i mean just look at this board, the inspo threads are filled with the same type of menswear, if its not trad/prep its some other classical shit, we just keep recycling the same shapes, silhouettes and colors over and over again in menswear.
obviously there's interesting stuff happening in the fashion industry, but do you actually see dudes wearing it? no

[Anonymous No.15248847]

I used to be like you OP, than I realized that men's fashion is far superior to females right now. Modern female fashion = aping men's look.

[Anonymous No.15248856]

>>15248616
Women have so many more types - to list a few: dresses, rompers, overalls, etc. men wear any of those things (apart from overalls if they’re blue collar) and they’re fags

[Anonymous No.15248865]

>>15248856
just join the Catholic Church.

[Anonymous No.15248866]

I think mens fashion is in a much better state than womens fashion is. Designer‘s styles are clearly distinguishable from one another, whereas if you want to look for womens clothing the sheer mass of different shapes and styles for different bodies is completely overwhelming. It is much easier to find something that you like for men if we are talking about actual fashion from respectable designers, not high street garbage that is either designed by robots or copied from creatives. Mens fashion has very clearly defined styles (genres for a lack of a better word) whilst female fashion styles flow into eachother a lot more, making female fashion a muddled mess. Male fashion is a lot more interesting, but due to less demand a lot less talked about.

[Anonymous No.15248892]

>>15248517
>>15248856
this

[Anonymous No.15248937]

>>15248385
because SEX

[Anonymous No.15248938]

>>15248385
Maybe because you are looking in wrong places.

[Anonymous No.15248963]

>>15248385
Hey I made this meme!

[Anonymous No.15248965]

>>15248721
if that's true for europe, its probably the same everywhere

[Anonymous No.15248974]

>>15248440
>most men don't give a fuck
They absolutely do. They just think everything that isn't a t-shirt announcing brand affiliation and jeans that are too big looks bad (and may be gay).

[Anonymous No.15248985]

>>15248385
Women's fashion sucks. You either look slutty or childish.

[Anonymous No.15248991]

>>15248856
I never see Women wearing this shit.
>>15248804
No one gives a shit what you wear, I used to wear purple tunics and jeggings.

[Anonymous No.15248999]

>>15248517
>tfw got bullied relentlessly in high school for wearing cuffed blue jeans, white socks and converse, and smoking cigs and listening to dadrock
>tfw five years later those same people were smoking cigs and wearing the same exact thing at SXSW listening to Mac Demarco and now it’s super cool

Fuck them

[Anonymous No.15249027]

Any other guys that powder their faces?

>born 1997
>grew up with real goths
>now grown up
>too old and too young to be goth
>not actually trying to be goth in the first place

The thing is, I just want powder, corsets and panniers to come back. Feels bad

[Anonymous No.15249143]

>>15248517
wearing skirts is not usual

[Anonymous No.15249150]

>boring

[Anonymous No.15249168]

>>15248385
it's not if you not a conformist faggot like 99% of posters here

[Anonymous No.15249189]

>>15249168
>temple OS

[Anonymous No.15249193]

>>15248991
>No one gives a shit what you wear
Bullying solved, bullies btfo

[Anonymous No.15249212]

>>15248385
>craig green
>kiko kostadinov
>Chinsai Yamamoto

youre so fucking ignorant "DURR WOMEN CLOTHING HAB MORE COLOR"

[Anonymous No.15249238]

>>15249150
God I wish I could wear plus-fours in public without being mocked

[Anonymous No.15249241]

>>15248517
How is this literally any different from women?
It's just that "unusual" for women means "anything that isn't in current popular fashion trend this season and year". They won't tell it to her face, but they'll talk behind her back and undermine her social power, just because she's "different" if maybe she tries going for a more classic historical style that isn't "in" at the moment.

Men "have it better" in a sense, because men don't fall prey to fashion trends, and don't care as much about social conformity. Men infuriate marketers because men basically figured out that the only person they need to impress is themselves, and simply being proud and confident and wearing clean clothes in complementary colors (and even that's loose, just basically not random clown colors {unless that's the hip trend}) that fit your body well is enough to impress and attract women. Furthermore, many women (still the ultimate goal of most men {hetero}) may see a particularly fashion-conscious and self-conscious man as being less confident and more concerned about what others think of him than what he thinks of himself or others, which is "follower" and not "leader" material.

Basically: BE GLAD SOCIETY DOESN'T EXPECT YOU TO WEAR MAKEUP OR TRENDY, EVER-CHANGING BULLSHIT, AND IF YOU WANT TO LOOK DIFFERENT OR FLASHIER THAN MOST GUYS JUST FUCKING DO IT YOU PUSSY, BE THE ONE THAT STARTS MAKING IT LOOK COOL BY BELIEVING IT LOOKS COOL ON YOU

[Anonymous No.15249257]

>>15248621
you either don't go outside or dress too normally. i used to get called a faggot all the time.

[Anonymous No.15249261]

>>15248938
This nigga is anime villain

[Anonymous No.15249476]

>>15248938
lil nigga looks like a goomba from the mario movie

[Anonymous No.15249478]

>>15249150
I fucking love those grids

[Anonymous No.15249484]

>>15249257
Probably because you're just an ugly faggot.

If you're a likable attractive person, no one cares what you wear.

[Anonymous No.15249487]

>>15249241
^^ This
>" wyaaaa, why can't we be fed blind consumerism to the same extent women are, wyaaaa "
OP is a tranny who wants companies to take his money for trends that go out of style in months.

[Anonymous No.15249500]

>>15248385
bladee

[Anonymous No.15249507]

>>15249241
Society has other expectations for men, and women have higher expectations for men than men do for women.

[Anonymous No.15249558]

Thinking women's fashion is better than men's fashion is the number one trans dog whistle. I personally don't have anything against trans women or men but men's fashion is wayyyyy better than women's. Women look like shit in Rick Owens Raf Simons usually what I'm dressed in

[Anonymous No.15249563]

>>15248385
Because decent men have jobs.
When you have a job, there's a uniform or 'standard' whether you're aware of it or not.

[Anonymous No.15249839]

>>15249563
Have sex

[Anonymous No.15249941]

It's because men are afraid of being called gay if they wear something that's too colorful. Literally fragile masculinity.

[Anonymous No.15249957]

>>15249563
But it applies to workwear too. Just look at what female politicians vs male politicians can wear.
Women:Red, Blue, Yellow, White, etc
Men:Black, Navy, Charcoal

Obama got shit from the media for wearing a tan suit, meanwhile Teresa May wore a bright red suit to events and no one cared.

[Anonymous No.15249960]

>>15249941
Wrong. Men naturally do not wish to be too colorful, as it serves no purpose and men are naturally more practical than women.

>Look good without looking like a fucking christmas tree

[Anonymous No.15249987]

>>15249960
>men naturally do not wish to be too colorful

Read some history, brainlet. Men have only been dressing in dark neutrals since Beau Brummell popularised the dandy look in 19th century Britain. Prior to then, men would spend more money than women would on their best, most colorful court dress. Even men's casual wear has gone through colorful phases, such as the Peacock Revolution in the late 1960s. What is considered "too colorful" is entirely relative to the social setting and time period.

[Anonymous No.15249993]

>>15248517
Good, there's no reason to put anything unusual on unless you want to look like a flamboyant faggot to achieve your special snowflake status.

[Anonymous No.15249998]

>>15249960
>>15249987
Pic related is from the Peacock Revolution in menswear, circa 1965-1975.

[Anonymous No.15250008]

>>15249987
>>15249998
>Rich nobles and flaming homosexuals acting like women.
Did i need to specify, queer? Real, normal straight men are practical and dress plainly. You might want to wear a fluorescent tanktop with one diamond earring as you sip soi lattes but 99% of men do not.

[Anonymous No.15250014]

>>15248385
men's fashion used to be quite fabulous - look at the outfits from XVII-XVIII century. Then capitalism emerged and destroyed any sense of style with their "hurrr business suit".

[Anonymous No.15250026]

?First level
men throughout time are more practical
function uber alles.
Women subjegated by men
women throughout time are more about substance.
Like that fat bitch carved from a stone rock.
Gotta look good.

The men that are interested in fashion are generally rich and famous like thouse courtiers to king lious who brought high heels into style and quit wearing them when women started too.
So they have the money and status to jet set and wear ceremonial garb during diplomatic banquets or wearing some desiner avant gaurd fashion for their music video.

The next ones are kids, but since fashion industry cares about money and parents ultimatly decide the wardrobe of their kids, and most parents are more interested in their kids being socialized correctly so they buy similar clothes so their kids can fit in with the rest of the crowd.

To be fair fast fashion, and work wear are still fashion, but fashion that has a more stoic rather than hellenistic aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.15250299]

>>15250008
>polearms you for double pay

[Anonymous No.15250301]

society loves women
society hates men

do the math.

[Anonymous No.15250327]

>>15249241
>IF YOU WANT TO LOOK DIFFERENT OR FLASHIER THAN MOST GUYS JUST FUCKING DO IT YOU PUSSY
Read the fucking thread you absolute brainlet >>15248804

[Anonymous No.15250328]

>>15249987
ah yes of course a painting from the 18th century, surely the cultural values and standards expected from men in this period still apply today in 2020

[Anonymous No.15250338]

>>15248385
women have more interesting body shapes and also what >>15248517 said.

[Anonymous No.15250388]

>>15248385
guy in the comic looks like pic related

[Anonymous No.15250393]

>>15249941
>the oppressed are at fault for being weak enough to be oppressed

Nice circular logic brainlet. Should have told that to the suffragettes and saved us all some trouble huh?

[Anonymous No.15250396]

>>15249150
This was the best thread ever made on /fa/. Hopefully "more like this"-core will become a thing one day

[Anonymous No.15250413]

>>15248865
jeez, the look on his face. you just know he's hitting it off with that sweet tenderloin.

[Anonymous No.15250424]

>>15249241
The problem is the availability of interesting men's fashion. The attitude of "lol gay" also keeps men's clothing from being anything too interesting. It's unarguable that women have a much wider and higher range of acceptable pieces of clothing to wear. Even in our most conservative settings, a woman in a suit walking into a business meeting is the same as if she wore business dress or jacket, blouse, and skirt. Good luck keeping your job if you're a guy going out to meet clients in your flowing, pleated, black skirt and high socks and gucci loafers.

[Anonymous No.15250476]

>>15248517
the problem is that as a guy you wanna appeal to women and if you dress like a literal faggot you're not gonna earn any respect or admiration from them.

I dress pretty low-key and almost conservative and boring normie and I recently bought a silver cross necklace (which I like and wear) but I already think it's too flashy because I don't wanna get bullied or judged by idiots. that's why I never wear rings either. only watches at best.

[Anonymous No.15250480]

>>15249957
>Obama got shit from the media for wearing a tan suit

but he's black. he can pull off a tan suit.

[Anonymous No.15250484]

>>15250476
>the problem is that as a guy you wanna appeal to women and if you dress like a literal faggot you're not gonna earn any respect or admiration from them.
Not true. Women like fashionable men. Even the conservative ones.

[Anonymous No.15250492]

>>15250484
I think our views on what is fashionable and what isn't vastly differ. bottom-line is that they are not attracted to gay-looking twinks. I ain't gonna put it more directly and clearly.

[Anonymous No.15250587]

>>15248999
You and them are fucking faggots though?

[Anonymous No.15250606]

>>15250008
Fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.15250681]

>>15248999
you were bullied in highschool for being a faggot
they just picked on things they knew would hurt you

[Anonymous No.15250689]

>>15248866
men's fashion is "boring" compared to womens fashion but it's way easier to find clothes that fit cause fat guys do not try to get into fashion most of the time
>>15250424
this might have been true a decade ago, not so much these days
>>15249241
>society expects x of you

you literally don't have to follow anything "society" expects of you stop being a faggot and letting other people tell you how to dress

>>15249484
this is true

[Anonymous No.15250741]

>>15250476
>if you dress like a literal faggot you're not gonna earn any respect or admiration from them.
If you dress like a faggot because you're insecure of what other people think then yes it won't be attractive.
If you dress flamboyantly cause you like it, know it looks good and don't give a fuck/be confident about it then it's definitely attractive to women. Attitude it's what matters, if you wore that silver cross confidently and didn't care about being bullied or judged by idiots then it would be considered attractive.

[Anonymous No.15250745]

>>15250689
>this might have been true a decade ago, not so much these days
Nah it's still true. Don't let social media fool you. Even in the much more open minded spaces of Hollywood, no man is going to risk his 75 million dollar movie deal by showing up to a business meeting in his Thom Browne skirt and high heels. Doesn't matter how well put together he looks, people's sensibilities or sense of decorum will still be insulted.

[Anonymous No.15250750]

>>15250492
>bottom-line is that they are not attracted to gay-looking twinks.
oh you sweet summer child, as long as he's not talking with a gay lisp or has a face full of makeup girls are going to like him.

[Anonymous No.15250768]

>>15250745
Far left looks good except for the heels.
The streamline silhouette looks a lot better than a skirt, and elongates a man's torso.
Heels are only good for making a woman's ass stick out, displaying her secondary sex characteristics.

[Anonymous No.15250770]

men's fashion is fantastic but somehow retards decided that dressing up in actual menswear was too much for nearly every setting, and that everyone had to go to work in sweatpants and snapbacks

[Anonymous No.15250773]

>>15250745
people will laugh because thom browne is shite

[Anonymous No.15250928]

>>15248999
Get fucked, you probably deserved it.

[Anonymous No.15251517]

>>15250928
Care to put up your dukes and back up such words?

[Anonymous No.15251562]

>>15248974
Wrong. Most men don't care.

You obviously want to dress super avant garde and are angry you'll get weird looks. Sorry, no body has to lick your shitty weird taste. Fuk u.

[Anonymous No.15251589]

>>15250492
>they are not attracted to gay-looking twinks
False. Look up fujoshi's. Women relish in gay feminine looking men. Maybe you just can't pull off the look or you come off OBVIOUSLY gay in your pink tube top dress or whatever the fuck you're wearing.

[Anonymous No.15252502]

>>15251589
This. I attracted way more women now that I'm gay than before when I was straight.

[Anonymous No.15252701]

>>15250689
>this might have been true a decade ago, not so much these days
you are full of shit

[Anonymous No.15252763]

>>15248865
"NO!"

[Anonymous No.15253115]

>>15252763
its crazy how larpers on the internet have evangelized for the orthodox church with their shallow memes more than the orthodox church itself ever did

[Anonymous No.15253122]

>>15248938
This dude looks like he works for the Joker robbing banks.

[Anonymous No.15253309]

>>15253115
I think it's mostly due to the popularity of neo-völkisch movements in certain demographies of internet users. By certain demographies, I mean people who are drawn towards (alt-)right wing politics, traditionalism and mystical spiritualism à la Julius Evola. They probably see Pope Franciscus and secularized West as being pozzed and effeminate, whereas Russian Orthodox Church allied with a strongman like Vladimir Putin is masculine and strong bastion of Christianity against the Moslem World. In other words, the /pol/ crowd.

[Anonymous No.15253370]

>>15250299
Based

[Anonymous No.15253389]

>>15253309
doesn't help that the catholic clergy is where families sent their gay sons for hundreds of years.

[Anonymous No.15253472]

>>15248517
That doesn't happen if you wear something with confidence. I wore the gaudiest thrifted clothes in highschool but because I wore it with almost smug level confidence people didn't give me shit, even got complimented.

[Anonymous No.15253650]

i just want options to wear that are not ludicrously outlandish or bizarre or just wearing women clothes as a man.

>>15250745

this is not fashion, its so terrible and haphazard its like my 3 year old niece got to choose their out fit for the day from there parents closet.

[Anonymous No.15253664]

>>15253650
i forgot to add that i think a major bottle neck in male fashion the restriction on hair styles. woman have an insane amount of freedom that is acceptable both professionally and in society in general that allow them to more fully create an aesthetic, this extends into all peripherals such as stocking/socks/legwear,shoes, jewelry, and smaller layers that add detail like hats and all kinds of scarves etc.

because male fashion is basically long pants and a shirt and 1 of 3 short hair cuts, deviation stands out so much more and is far far more difficult to fly in any even slightly professional setting.

[Anonymous No.15253666]

>>15250299
Implying unifrom is a typical wear kys

[Anonymous No.15253688]

>>15253472
You would get the shit beat out of you if you wore some "gay" things at my highschool. Good luck with your confidence when you're getting jumped by 5 random dudes you've never even seen before.

[Anonymous No.15253701]

>>15253688
where do you live where people are jumping random strangers bc "i dont like his clothes."
also lmao high school?

[Anonymous No.15253709]

>>15253701
>lmao high school?
You absolute brainlet. I was replying to a post which was talking about high school and was sharing my high school experience.

>>15253472
>I wore the gaudiest thrifted clothes in highschool

>where do you live
Europe. It's not as queer as the liberal media would have you believe.

[Anonymous No.15253715]

>>15253709
sounds like a shithole

[Anonymous No.15253718]

>>15253688
>>15253709
Jeez, what country do you live if that kindof retards are still walking around that beat you up because of your style of dress. My highschool was comparatively really peaceful with almost no fights happening.

[Anonymous No.15253721]

>>15253666
There was no such thing as uniform. This style of clothing was worn during that time.

[Anonymous No.15253732]

>>15253718
>still walking around
STILL? are you niggers retarded? It was in high school. I am no longer in high school.

[Anonymous No.15253737]

>>15250008
For most of Europe's history the peasantry would wear bright pink, green, yellow, and depending on clime and culture, blue clothes. The "brown drab dung ages" is a Hollywood meme created by Jews to make Medieval Europe look bad (this is not a meme, btw, that's literally why).

>>15253666
Landsknechts did not wear a uniform, they literally just put on whatever the fuck they felt like. They were the Ye Olde equivelant of a bunch of rich dudes with guns joining the military and wearing whatever flashy shit they wanted.

[Anonymous No.15253740]

>>15253732
and hows freshman year of college treating you?

[Anonymous No.15253752]

>>15253740
I've been out of college for well over a decade. I hope high school is treating you well, anon. How's that reading comprehension coming along?

[Anonymous No.15253849]

>>15253752
been out of college for a while now too so we have that in common. im just messing w you bc you went full "brainlet" and "are you niggers retarded" at the mere thought of you=high schooler. like jesus why are you flying off the handle at the smallest things lmao. also never implied that you were in HS in the first place just that high school is not a good representation of the real world but i guess reading comp isnt ya strong suit

[Anonymous No.15253858]

>>15253752
also as an aside your HS is most likely an exception to the rule as more often than not, nobody is going to get beatnen up if they wear gaudy garbage.

[Anonymous No.15253866]

>>15248517
This

[Anonymous No.15253869]

>>15251562
> Most men don't care

maybe in the US where men dress like trash. In europe we do care

[Anonymous No.15253903]

>>15248517
maybe its bc i live in nyc where people get used to weird/loud/avant garde outfits but ive never seen anyone get called a faggot for their style. unless you live in rural nebraska, people are gonna look and then forget about you the instant you turn the corner.
>>15248385
also mens fashion isnt boring. you just dress boring

[Anonymous No.15254055]

>>15253903
>also mens fashion isnt boring. you just dress boring
What a bullshit response. Walk into some normie store like H&M or a large department store and you'll see that over all mens clothing is far more limited than womens.

Women have the choice to dress in all kinds of different styles, different fabrics, different patterns.

Department stores will have 5 floors of women's clothing all with wildly different styles while the mens department looks the same from every angle.

You could put me in the mens section of any H&M from 10 years ago and I wouldn't be able to tell you what was different from today.

[Anonymous No.15254059]

>>15253903
i unironically live in rural nebraska and wear mostly yohji/ann D and have never dealt with anyone being confrontational over what i'm wearing.

[Anonymous No.15254065]

>>15254059
then thats even better.
no ones gonna call you out on anything. for the most part no body wants to get confrontational over such a non issue like how someone dresses

[Anonymous No.15254068]

>>15254065
i have richfag parents that were supportive of my interests through highschool (fashion), and i literally only ever had positive things said to me about my fashion sense, which for me in HS, amounted to full rick every fucking day.

[Anonymous No.15254095]

>>15254055
if you go to a normie store what do you expect to find but normie clothes. this goes for both men and women. go to a better store that doesnt cater to such a general audience and youll find clothes with different fabrics, patterns, silhouette,etc. what do you expect from HM and Macy's but safe cookie cutter clothes. OP's pic could have the left side dressed in uniqlo and the right side in Michele's Gucci and the pic would be very different. There are loud and cool outfits for men, sometimes even in all black, if you dont solely shop at basic stores. just look at the mens section of ssense and tell me you dont see color and oversized things

[Anonymous No.15254100]

>>15254059
>yohji/ann D
Not exactly colourful or very feminine. Yohji has a very masculine vibe to it and I'm guessing your Ann D are some leather boots?

[Anonymous No.15254110]

>>15254100
depends on the yohji. i wear hakamas and ann D boots (which are heeled slightly bc i'm a 5'4 asian manlet) a lot of days. i do own a fair few women's pieces, mainly pants, because they tend to fit me better due to having a thin frame. maybe i get a pass because i'm not white? i dunno. you're right on the lack of color though.

[Anonymous No.15254111]

>>15254095
This whole thread is about generalizations. No one ever claimed there are ZERO clothes that will fall into that category. Of course men can wear other things. Of course men can wear colours. Of course there are mens fashion designers making clothes that are outside the norm.

The point is that MOST mens clothing is safe and boring. Even most of whats at SSENSE is very safe for men.

Go to a store such as Saks 5th Ave and you'll find the same thing as what I mentioned is the case at H&M. Mens clothing is more homogenous and boring.

[Anonymous No.15254113]

>>15254100
this is honestly one of the safest yohji fit ive seen. also ive seen men wear the rick kiss heels in nyc and it was just another tuesday for everyone.

[Anonymous No.15254115]

>>15254110
The sad thing is that that's already considered "crazy" for men. You're also admitting that you're not the norm. This only reinforces what OP was trying to say.

[Anonymous No.15254118]

>>15254113
>in nyc
>just another tuesday
in NYC maybe, yes

[Anonymous No.15254124]

>>15254115
i'm saying that wearing clothes that aren't the norm really isn't a big deal. it's just generally carrying yourself like a normal person and being conventionally attractive is a bigger requirement the farther from the norm you stray. the halo effect and reverse halo effect are very important to what you can and can't get away with wearing. if you're ugly, people will neg you for wearing anything. you can't win. if you're hot, you get away with wearing anything.

[Anonymous No.15254133]

>>15254124
What I'm saying is that your clothing choices aren't all that crazy to begin with.

[Anonymous No.15254147]

>>15254133
i think i see your point. you are right in that men's clothing tends towards the safe because men in general aren't really that interested in fashion with the same regularity as women, which leads to a preoccupation with practicality and comfortable designs. but, I've borrowed a friend's rick larry boots for a couple fits and didn't get much more than lingering glances, and they're one of the more crazy menswear options. you only really get shit from people if you're dressed like a freak and look bad. if you're dressed oddly and still look good, people will almost always not care.

[Anonymous No.15254167]

>>15254147
I agree with you over all but this all depends a lot on where you're located. Dressing one way may work in a certain location but not all, no matter how confident you are. Good luck showing up to the county fair or rodeo with your Ricks without getting some stares. Pull up with your Ricks to most places in Eastern Europe and see what happens.

[Anonymous No.15254173]

>>15254111
ive been inside Saks 5th ave and yeah its boring. but theyre catering to conservative rich older people. if you ever been to the women's bag section or womens clothing section of saks everything looks the same as well. (logo t's, dress pants, knee length skirts, basic evening dresses).
MOST stores are going to be safe and boring. That goes for both mens and womens stores. safe/boring is what most people are going to wear. odds of women wanting to go full iris van herpen runway is just as low as the likelihood of most men wanting to go full yohji.
but then again i am from NY so the selection tends to be a lot more varied in stores (or at least there are more varied stores)
also i wouldnt call everything in your pic safe or boring either.

[Anonymous No.15254176]

>>15254173
>conservative rich older people
aka closeted homos

[Anonymous No.15254198]

>>15254167
i could also argue the same for women as well. a women dressed in a wedding gown to a county fair or rodeo is going to get the same amount of stares as a man in rick. likewise women dressing out of the norm of Eastern Europe are probs going to be stared at/gawked at the same way men will get beat up. both of these arent arguing in favor that womens clothing is more interesting than mens. youre more talking about situational awareness/context and that goes for both men and women.

[Anonymous No.15254253]

>>15249241
>How is this literally any different from women?
Because women don't get called faggots for attempting to dress nice? Also, keep in mind that while women are accepted and encouraged to "be gay", it's still a deep insult to call men gay, as you are attempting to take his masculinity away (your identity is ultimately based around how others perceive you, to the dismay of trannies).

[Anonymous No.15254254]

>>15254198
Women can wear more in any of those situations than men and you're lying to yourself if you say it isn't so. In both those situations a women could probably pass just fine when wearing a vast variety of style and clothing choices (dress, skirt, jeans, track pants).

For men the spectrum isnt that big. You dont need to get into obscure fashion designers and the likes to see that women have more choice than men in whats generally socially acceptable.

>going to be stared at/gawked at the same way men will get beat up
You're demonstrating how differently of-beat fashion choices by men are viewed different versus those by women. A women might get a few looks, a man might be beaten up over it.

A woman wouldn't feel the same pressure to dress differently in order to conform as a man would.

[Anonymous No.15254269]

>>15253737
>Landsknechte
>a bunch of rich dudes
If you're rich you're hiring those madmen.

[Anonymous No.15254302]

>>15254254
sure women have dresses and skirts and heels, but that doesnt mean theyre instantly interesting. women may have other types of garments, so i agree they have a large selection of items, but that doesnt mean those garments are inherently interesting. i believe that a dress and heels is about as interesting as a suit. a Fendi dress with balenciaga knife heels is equally interseting as a gucci all over print suit.
>>15254254
>You're demonstrating how differently of-beat fashion choices by men are viewed different versus those by women. A women might get a few looks, a man might be beaten up over it.
i was going to use rape and sexual harassment in my original post but felt that was uncalled for. but yeah, men can get beaten up, women can get sexually harassed so im not quite sure where youre going?
>A woman wouldn't feel the same pressure to dress differently in order to conform as a man would.
societal pressure and standards applies to everyone but in different ways. lots of women get labeled slut for the way they dress.

[Anonymous No.15254355]

>>15248517
This is 100% true. I once wore a sweatshirt that i shrunk in the wash to school and it was just shrunk enough to show a little bit of skin of my belly and some guy i knew and two girls called me crop top boy. I didn't mean really notice until i got there. 100%, if you try stuff that's even a little different as a man you will be made fun of

[Anonymous No.15254365]

>>15254355
I got made fun of by a few people in middle school and high school for dressing different, but I was popular, got invited to all the parties, and got laid

[Anonymous No.15254375]

>>15254365
Oh, i know. I used to wear trash clothes and shit because i was broke but i had a good face and body so girls still liked me and i made friends. What i'm saying is that the post i replied to is 100% true. As a woman you can walk around in skin color yoga pants but as a man if you wear something that shows not even half an inch of your belly you will be made fun of for it.

[Anonymous No.15254387]

>>15254365
Ok. Good for you. Now don't go acting like your anecdote is the norm.

[Anonymous No.15254395]

>>15254375
Showing off your belly isn't an attractive look for the male body shape though. I experimented and even wore women's clothes-- you just gotta know what looks good and what doesn't. I mean, in high school you're gonna get fucked with somehow. I don't think it's exclusively a male thing, females are catty and mean as hell when they're around each other.

[Anonymous No.15254449]

>>15254395
You must have gone to some real nice highschool. I don't remember highschool the way you're describing it at all. Sounds like some reddit circlejerk.

[Anonymous No.15254543]

>>15254198
>comparing a wedding gown to rick owens
are you actually retarded?

[Anonymous No.15254554]

>>15254449
Reddit wasn't even a thing when I was in high school. I actually went to a very small high school in the south

[Anonymous No.15254603]

>>15254543
i compared the inappropriateness of both in a certain setting. was your takeaway from that just wedding dress=rick owens lmao

[Anonymous No.15254807]

>>15254603
actual room temperature IQ
my point is how can you compare how inappropriate they are, when one is something you wear in this specific day of your life that also comes with a ton of symbolic baggage, and the other one is simply some designer clothes that go a bit out of the norm

[Anonymous No.15254816]

>>15254603
if you want to actually compare male vs female, then put both in rick owens in that same setting and try to imagine if the outcome would be the same
you absolute brainlet

[Anonymous No.15254889]

>>15254807
i couldve said a regular dress or an office suit or anything else and the point still stands jfc what an absolute retarded thing to nitpick on
>>15254816
if a woman wore rick to a rodeo you dont think shes not gonna get looks? is that REALLY what you want to claim lmao

[Anonymous No.15255085]

>>15254889
There are many times when a woman can wear Rick and get no (more or less) looks because of it.

There is almost no time a man can wear Rick and get no (more or less) looks because of it.

[Anonymous No.15255386]

>boring

[Anonymous No.15255390]

>boring

[Anonymous No.15255399]

>>15255386
>>15255390
Do you have links for these threads? I want to find them but don't know what to search for.

[Anonymous No.15255400]

>>15255399
I was the OP, the text was just: "more like this"
Probably hard to find

[Anonymous No.15255429]

>>15255400
Found them. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.15255436]

>>15255429
Sorry, should have linked while I was at it:
>>/fa/thread/S14832916

[Anonymous No.15256372]

>>15250299
I want to believe guys were really showing leg like second from the bottom right

[Anonymous No.15256385]

Literally a thread full of closeted tr*annies who are mad as fuck that people think they look like freaks when they wear grandma sweaters with a pink skirt made for a 12 year old and ugly neon colored leggings.

[Anonymous No.15256418]

The issue is that streetwear and general fast fashion is in a retarded rut where they can't do anything fun except shlep logos and shitty screen prints on hoodies and tees. They could do something a bit rarer like blousons or rugby shirts, but why should they? Retards will eat screen printed tees up.

[Anonymous No.15256443]

>>15249476
lol

[Anonymous No.15256465]

>boring

[Anonymous No.15256498]

>>15248517
So this is why every man in the US dresses like literal toddler, the kid on the back has the same clothes as this guy.

[Anonymous No.15256503]

>>15256498
Looks comfortable honestly. The only issue here is that he's massively overweight

[Anonymous No.15256508]

>>15256503
Also when I travel to big cities I purposely dress shitty so people don't steal my shit or beg me for money, especially New Orleans

[Anonymous No.15256613]

>>15248385
Just use modern pieces to imitate some traditional style if you are afraid of being judged but still want to play around with some varied options.

Colored shirts is currently the best way to express yourself and still look sharp.

[Anonymous No.15256907]

>>15256613
Pretty much.

I mostly dress in a low-key, retro (para)military manner. Military surplus (including laceless leather boots) with assorted monochromatic, dark colored sweaters and shirts.

Haven't had any issues with it socially or jobwise, though I do lament that I have to buzzcut myself as a kosher alternative to just growing out my hair and beard.

[Anonymous No.15256913]

>>15256907
Peak proletarian simplicity.

[Anonymous No.15256929]

>>15256913

[Anonymous No.15256982]

>>15254302
>i was going to use rape and sexual harassment
People play up these acts way too much, not saying that it doesn't happen but if it were as common as people make it out to be then almost no women would be walking around in skimpy or skin tight clothing. The truth is that 95% of the time women are fine to dress however they want, and no one says any thing to them. Certainly not men. If anything I've always heard that they get more nasty or negative comments from other women.

[Anonymous No.15257022]

>>15256913
>>15256907
stalin was a genocidal maniac yet in pictures he looks so fatherly with his mustache and slightly receding hair

[Anonymous No.15257030]

>>15257022
>a genocidal maniac
Maniac? Nah. Uncle Joe was just a pragmatic, no-nonsense sort of guy.

You know what they say about making an omelette, comrade.

[Anonymous No.15257094]

>>15256982
>The truth is that 95% of the time women are fine to dress however they want, and no one says any thing to them.
cant you apply the same thing to men? more often that not, no ones going to be making a scene/calling ppl out bc they see a man dress weirdly either. people arent confrontational nor are they going to waste their time heckling a stranger on the streets

[Anonymous No.15257151]

>>15257094
No, it depends on the location honestly. A man dressed in a weird or provocative way in certain neighborhoods of a major cosmopolitan city? People will be less likely to care or to notice becuase it's not that far out of the norm for them. Outside of those few areas men can not show too much skin or wear too tight clothing or too much jewelry, or do up their hair, or be noticeable in any type of way without at least one person making a big deal about it. For example, I have tragus piercings (not that common of a piercing, but not weird or offensive, and hardly noticeable) if I go back to my old neighborhood there's always some dude saying it's weird. You can't even have an earring without somebody going out of their way to badger you about it. Women have much more freedom in this regard. I've seen too many women grocery shopping in booty shorts and white tank tops with no bra to know that they're afraid of being called out or sexually harassed for their style of dress. Again not saying that it doesn't happen (I've seen it happen) just that it's not as common as people want to make it out to be.

[Anonymous No.15257164]

>>15257094
No, it depends on the location honestly. A man dressed in a weird or provocative way in certain neighborhoods of a major cosmopolitan city? People will be less likely to care or to notice becuase it's not that far out of the norm for them. Outside of those few areas men can not show too much skin or wear too tight clothing or too much jewelry, or do up their hair, or be noticeable in any type of way without at least one person making a big deal about it. For example, I have tragus piercings (not that common of a piercing, but not weird or offensive, and hardly noticeable) if I go back to my old neighborhood there's always some dude saying it's weird. You can't even have an earring without somebody going out of their way to badger you about it. Women have much more freedom in this regard. I've seen too many women grocery shopping in booty shorts and white tank tops with no bra to know that they're not afraid of being called out or sexually harassed for their style of dress. Imagine a guy grocery shopping with the bottom of his ass hanging out? He wouldn't make it a black down the streeth without someone saying something rude. And again not saying that sexual harassment or the threat or rape doesn't happen just that it's not at all as common as people want to make it out to be.

[Anonymous No.15257167]

>>15257094
No, it depends on the location honestly. A man dressed in a weird or provocative way in certain neighborhoods of a major cosmopolitan city? People will be less likely to care or to notice becuase it's not that far out of the norm for them. Outside of those few areas men can not show too much skin or wear too tight clothing or too much jewelry, or do up their hair, or be noticeable in any type of way without at least one person making a big deal about it. For example, I have tragus piercings (not that common of a piercing, but not weird or offensive, and hardly noticeable) if I go back to my old neighborhood there's always some dude saying it's weird. You can't even have an earring without somebody going out of their way to badger you about it. Women have much more freedom in this regard. I've seen too many women grocery shopping in booty shorts and white tank tops with no bra to know that they're not afraid of being called out or sexually harassed for their style of dress. Imagine a guy grocery shopping with the bottom of his ass hanging out? He wouldn't make it a block down the street without someone saying something rude. And again not saying that sexual harassment or the threat or rape doesn't happen just that it's not at all as common as people want to make it out to be.

[Anonymous No.15257795]

>>15251589
>look up gay twinks

Sure

[Anonymous No.15258688]

if you're one of the people that said this >>15248517 doesn't happen, just look at the board you're browsing, there's threads like this >>15255346 that prove exactly that point

[Anonymous No.15258856]

>>15248385
bike cuck is just a basic bitch

[Anonymous No.15258860]

>>15250299
>>15253370
absolutely fucking based

[Anonymous No.15259220]

>>15254302
>i was going to use rape and sexual harassment
>>15256982
>>15257094
>>15257167
I thought how you dressed didn't matter? haven't feminists been telling us for years that sexual harassment, assault, and rape happen regardless of what they wore?

Women do not face more harassment, assault, and rape because of what they wear.

[Anonymous No.15259297]

>>15256498
literally every male in that picture is dressed like a fucking slob. whats it gonna take for western men to start respecting themselves?

[Anonymous No.15259348]

>>15254395
>Showing off your belly isn't an attractive look for the male body shape though.

Crop-tops were a fad in the early 90s. Only works if you are a jock with no body fat.

[Anonymous No.15259386]

>>15259348
>rop-tops were a fad in the early 90s
No they weren't. That's why your pic is the only thing that shows up when you try to search for this.

>but Prince did it
>but Bruce Jenner did it
>but these models from gay magazines did it
These don't count. These are certain individuals or single occurrences.

[Anonymous No.15259393]

>>15250745
lmao that shit gay af

[Anonymous No.15259397]

>>15259386
Yeah, they were. Knew a few kids at my jr. high that did it. Now get off my Gen-X lawn. Go movin' with your auntie and uncle in Bel Air.

[Anonymous No.15259400]

>>15255386
is that pewds bike?
based

[Anonymous No.15259402]

Men dress for 2 reasons, utility and displaying wealth.

Women dress for those reasons, but also as an advanced camouflage to make themselves look better.

[Anonymous No.15259419]

>>15259397
No they were not. I lived through those days too. Maybe it was a local fad where you lived but there is no evidence of this ever being a fad. I would love to see some proof of this and be proven wrong, because I can't find it. It's only a few celebrities and gays.

[Anonymous No.15259458]

>>15258688
that’s moreso this board being spectacularly insecure. Igor regularly posts shit like “Is this skincare product ok for a straight man?” as if skincare is gay or non masculine

[Anonymous No.15259625]

>>15248938
What's going on with his legs?

[Anonymous No.15259648]

>>15259402
why the fuck are you even on this board? I swear it wasn’t this bad 5 or 6 years ago

[Anonymous No.15259654]

>>15259648
Nearly every board has been invaded by people who love misery. I don't really get it.

[Anonymous No.15259658]

>>15259654
it’s not even that, his opinion is antithetical to the entire purpose of the board. if you were only interested in utility and displaying wealth with your clothes, why are you even here? I don’t understand

[Anonymous No.15259668]

>>15259658
Go take a look at /fit/, half the threads are "Why bother to lift, your genetics determine your failures in life" and other similarly miserable offtopic or anti-topic threads. And like half a dozen unironic threads about masturbation. It's very strange, but not in a fun or interesting way.

[Anonymous No.15259676]

>>15259668
doesn’t fit also have an absolute plague of balding threads? I don’t understand how things got this bad

[Anonymous No.15259682]

>>15259676
Yeah I dunno man, the public internet is overwhelmed by angry retards. I think these are the people who would have, fifty or sixty years ago, been yelling TV news and complaining about hippies ruining everything.

[Anonymous No.15259687]

>>15248385
Because protestcucks have been taught elegance and beauty are feminine values.

Which is why faggots have the monopoly of these things in their countries.

[Anonymous No.15259724]

>>15256508
This is a major factor.

[Anonymous No.15260110]

>>15259458
the thing is that people here aren't that special at all, this type of mindset is very present today even though its not expressed in a direct manner while out in public

[Anonymous No.15260113]

Nah I wear three different colors of suits

[Anonymous No.15260467]

>>15259419
This is just sexcore. Nobody in real life ever dressed like this. Just like when you see male models today wearing black jeans ripped at the knee tightly adhering to the contours of their leg. Nobody actually dresses that way besides celebrities and models.

[Anonymous No.15260477]

>>15260467
learn to read

[Anonymous No.15260479]

>>15248385
business wear is the absolute worst offender, women can wear anything they want as long as it looks somewhat "professional", but the only variance men are allowed is the color of your shirt and tie and whether you wear slacks or chinos

can't express how much I hate working in an office for many reasons, but that is certainly one of my top 10 aggravations

[Anonymous No.15260506]

>>15260479
>ree why can't i be an attention whore in professional settings

lmao go be a woman if that's what you want

[Anonymous No.15260548]

>>15248847

No, just playing around with men's looks. Suits for example, this and last year they've played around with wrap-up suit jackets (don't like them, look like short bath robes to me) and of course asymmetrical designs (HATE those, some look like they've just been bunched up everywhere). As for pants, it's mostly extreme wide leg this year.

[Anonymous No.15260554]

>>15248866

>whereas if you want to look for womens clothing the sheer mass of different shapes and styles for different bodies is completely overwhelming.

Yeah, no. For years now women's clothes have been cut for tall (5'8'' and up) and flat-chested women. Everyone else has to find niche online shops. (Thankfully ASOS has a petite section.)

[Anonymous No.15260569]

>>15250745

>far left
>pinstripe dress

Excuse me, coming through, let me just mog your outfit with my femininity. (by Jason Wu btw)

[Anonymous No.15260594]

>>15248517
just stop being an insecure faggot and this will NOT happen. chad can dress however he wants. if you cannot, you probably look like a skinny fat short, nerd looking white guy in his 20s. man the FUCK UP

[Anonymous No.15260605]

>>15260594
please read the thread first you imbecile

[Anonymous No.15260973]

>>15248385
hear me out. you may be a transsexual.

[Anonymous No.15261798]

>>15260506
Have sex

[Anonymous No.15261892]

>>15250476
You sound like such a bitch. Your telling the class you refuse to potentially grow because you give a shit about the opinion of strangers.

This is so sad what /fa/ has become. Ack when the board was fresh and new even if you failed at pulling fits off, people still enjoyed the experimentation others would take when it came to mixing high and fast fashion.

To read shit like this now is embarrassing especially as an indicator to all the broke and underage newfags who can afford to be brave and really dive into an interest, but shit on it under the guise of familiarity.

[Anonymous No.15261904]

It's easy and comfy. I'm 29 and basically wear the same shit I did when I was 12.

I like that people wear nice looking things but I'm personally not interesed in wearing that, I want my simple stuff.

[Anonymous No.15261905]

>>15248938
That pic looks like it could be a character from Jojo SBR

[Anonymous No.15261912]

>>15253709
No one you have such a shit opinion about men’s fashions. You got baggage, please gtfo of this thread and stop ruining it with such diluted ideals on what’s right for you and how boring men’s fashion really isn’t. You just have to look like everyone else.

[Anonymous No.15261919]

>>15253732
You sure act like it retard, maybe you should shut the fuck up and grow up a bit before typing your diarrhea laced bullshit projecting your own insecurities.

[Anonymous No.15262467]

You call it simple, I call it elegant, simple and effective.

[Anonymous No.15263526]

>>15248938
Which core is this

[Anonymous No.15263545]

>>15252763
Based.

[Anonymous No.15264153]

>>15250492

>bottom-line is that they are not attracted to gay-looking twinks.

Many of them absolutely are. Source: former gay twink.

>>15250476


Why are you so set on narrowly defining the preferences of half the human population? Do you really not see how absurd that is?

DESU senpai you sound wildly insecure, which is an ok thing to be but let's not pretend it's anything else. There will always be someone that will try to bully and judge even the most conservatively dressed person, there is no escaping from that kind of shit attitude. The question is, why care about such people?

[Anonymous No.15265106]

>>15255429
>>15255436
>>15255390
>>15255386
>>15256465

ty i needed that

[Anonymous No.15265111]

>>15248385
no woman wears the left outside
what is this false premise

[Anonymous No.15265123]

>>15248517
faggot

[Anonymous No.15265168]

better question is how are most women so badly dressed when female fashion is so varied and diverse compared to men's?

[Anonymous No.15265213]

>>15265168
It takes time and effort to dress well. Paint is cheap but most people stick with having white walls in their apartments because they simply don't want to put in the effort of changing the color.

[Anonymous No.15265228]

>>15263526
like >>15253122 said it's joker's grunt core

[Anonymous No.15265238]

>>15265213
I don't think that's it at all. A lot of masculinity is about time/effort. For example peak male physique requires thousands of hours at the gym.

That's the result of western society's division of men as earners, and women as spenders. You don't see the same division in 3rd world non-western countries. Especially those with less westernization.

It's unarguable that in any situation women have more choices than men. Men and women are both told to conform, but since there has been less evolution in mens it seems like by comparison women are giving more freedom. Yes, they have a bigger prison to run around in, but western gender roles constrain us all.

[Anonymous No.15265266]

>>15265238
No what I said was precisely it

>I don't think that's it at all. A lot of masculinity is about time/effort. For example peak male physique requires thousands of hours at the gym.

That's exactly what I said. No need to turn it into some weird pseudoscientific debate.

People don't want to put in the time, effort, and mental energy to going out and shopping for months to develop their own style especially if they have too many options. It's easier to conform to trends or not care too much about looking good in clothing.

[Anonymous No.15265292]

>>15252763
>Prefers to know God through mystical experience and contemplation

I almost forgot that hesychasm bullshit but you reminded me anon, thanks I guess, ya dipshit