/wt/ - Watch Thread [Holy Grail Edition]

[Anonymous No.15090541]

This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required to make a functioning timepiece.

Thread video:
>https://youtube.com/watch?v=jXzHj7vKmbk [Embed]

Guides:
> Watch essentials 102: https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV
> Purchasing used watches: https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2
> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE

Should I buy this MVMT / DW / *Fashion brand* watch?
> Scroll throught this album first: https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8, but yes, absolutely!

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, flieger, etc...
> Desired bracelet option, e.g. leather, nylon, metal
> Wrist size or desired watch size, e.g. 17cm / 38mm

Previous thread: >>15085140

[Anonymous No.15090543]

I don't believe it...it fucking worked!!!

[Anonymous No.15090545]

what's a cheap-ish watch that looks like a Hublot Classic Fusion?

[Anonymous No.15090547]

>>15090545
Maybe try Skagen? The key visual is the metal head with the rubber strap that is screwed in...

[Anonymous No.15090667]

>>15090543
Good job seagullanon we're proud of you

[Anonymous No.15090938]

Post your Attainable Grail™
For me? It's this 1940's Vacheron Constantin 4217

[Anonymous No.15090941]

>>15090543
>.it fucking worked!!
What worked?
>>15090545
>Hublot
Get some Diesel shitter. Same shit, more cheaper.

[Anonymous No.15091217]

Posting my 1970's shitter that I showed in the last thread. I love this horrible piece of crap so much.

[Anonymous No.15091292]

>>15090667
So am I Anon, so am I.

>>15090938
Speedy cal. 321 from '67 or '68. Available, varying conditions, but not impossible.
>pic related

>>15090941
I've only created 2 other threads in the past few years, and they both had flaws (i.e. missing references, errors in the text, etc.). This one was smooth as the winding of a recently serviced diving watch.

>>15091217
It really does look like the kind of watch an Italian drug lord would wear....lol Fun stuff.

[None !IGORsW/P/E No.15091318]

why's Breguet so rare on /fa?

[Anonymous No.15091320]

>>15091292
60s sports chronos were the pinnacle of watch design imo

[Anonymous No.15091327]

>>15091318
1) Cost out of reach for most Anons.
2) Designs waver from 18th century conservatism to Journe placement oddballism (with old hands). I'd say it's niche enough the way that modern Zenith or IWC (minus the Fleigers) are that you won't find them here often.

>>15091320
I agree with you, with a limit: I think they're the peak of legible analog chronograph watch designs. Unless we find a new analog design that doesn't involve circles, I think there's nothing one can do (or perhaps should do) to change it.

[Anonymous No.15091334]

>>15091318
Alternatives for 50-100 euros anons? I rarely wear a suit

[Anonymous No.15091350]

>>15091327
It just feels like all of my favourite designs – watches, cars, etc. – happen to be from the 60s to early 70s. I'm not one of those "I was born in the wrong generation" but damn boomers had it good

[Anonymous No.15091393]

>>15091334
I've always been partial to pic related: Citizen ecodrive, though I have no idea how big it is or how it looks on the wrist. You could also try going vintage; lots of mechanicals from the 20s-40s that are small and square.

>>15091350
Yeah, it was before things became too homogenized. I'm curious to see what happens in the next 20 years or so, and which designs from the 90s and 00s will be considered 'timeless' or 'classic' and which other ones will fall into the dust.

[Anonymous No.15091478]

I'm a rolex fan boy, and nearly everything else pales in comparison but I have appreciation for:

>Omega Speedmaster
>Vacheron Constantin Overseas Crono
>Jaeger Lecoultre Ultra Thin Moon Phase
>Most things by A. Lange & Sohne

[Anonymous No.15091565]

>>15091478
>I'm a rolex fan boy
Rolex haven't come out with one (1) new design that doesn't look like shit in half a century, and all of their existing designs have been made gradually uglier and uglier over the years (picrel)

[Anonymous No.15091671]

>>15091565

[Anonymous No.15091691]

>>15091478
The only brands I knew as a kid were Rolex and Omega - my dad had some vintage Seamaster. I can't ever see myself spending fuckoff money on a snooty sounding brand name I only heard of because of the internet.

[Anonymous No.15091810]

>>15090938
I know this sounds silly for a grail because it's not something that's super far out of my reach but I'd love a blue newer 38mm Aqua Terra. A couple years of putting away money could very easily allow me to get that Omega but it seems really silly for me to have a watch that's worth more than any of my cars.

[Anonymous No.15091811]

Recommend me a watch with this aesthetic but on the budget

[Anonymous No.15091961]

my first watch. somehow fucked it up trying to set the time and it won’t tick I feel retarded

[Anonymous No.15091964]

>>15091961
>>15091961

[Anonymous No.15091984]

>>15091811
just get a smartwatch

[Anonymous No.15092068]

>>15090541
Just ordered this meme watch for $60, how retard am I?

[Anonymous No.15092075]

>>15092068
Not retarded at all. This is the watch our future techno-emperors will wear to flex on poors.

[Anonymous No.15092327]

Who makes the comfiest MN style straps for cheap? I'm not spending £70 on this shit

[Anonymous No.15092335]

Can someone get me a QRD on the piss watch? you know which one

[Anonymous No.15092342]

why doesn’t my new watch work

[Anonymous No.15092398]

It's been fucking cold today lads. Decided to switch from my shitter here >>15091217 to my other shitter in pic related. How's everyone holding up with the Corona Virus spooks around the world? Things have finally (mostly) shut down here in the UK.

[Anonymous No.15092405]

>>15092398
my sister and aunt were berating me for going to work still because apparently it’s very selfish

anyway I want to find another small watch like this but silver and black stap

[Anonymous No.15092471]

>>15091565
The fucking new case Rolex has been using, the Maxi case or whatever, pisses me off to no end. Rolex watches were comfortable but that case is an absolute step back, compromising comfort for ostentatious fashion. Fuck Rolex.

[Anonymous No.15092493]

>>15090938
This is my grail. If I ever become mega rich somehow, I'm selling all my watches for this.
https://youtu.be/AaOFjHOdJ1c

[Anonymous No.15092566]

I have an sbbn033 tuna divers on the OEM black strap

to switch things up a little I want an orange strap. which style/brand should I get?

[Anonymous No.15092592]

>>15092405
>selfish
catching the virus is literally fine just don't pass it on to old boomers

[Anonymous No.15092595]

>>15092566
Nick mankey hook strap is goat elastic fabric strap

[Anonymous No.15092639]

>>15090541
TECHNOLOGY RELATED THREADS SHOULD BE IN /g/ not /fa/

>thread for appreciation of watch components and materials
You op thread description is completely NON fashion related go back to /g/. Make your thread there where it belongs and STOP RUINING OURS

[Anonymous No.15092656]

>>15092405

[Anonymous No.15092673]

>>15092639
wow youre really committed to this meme

[Anonymous No.15092675]

>>15090541
> This thread is about
Oh?
>the appreciation of watches,
Ok
>as well as the micro-engineering
Hmm
>and materials engineering
Oof
>that are required
>to make a functioning
Oh so it’s all about function WHY IS THIS THREAD ON FA??????????????

[Anonymous No.15092676]

>>15092675
Go talk abou watch watch technology on the /TECHNOLOGY\ board stupid fucking assholes, GTFO off our FASHION board

[Anonymous No.15092753]

Can someone recommend me a watch? Budget is $500

[Anonymous No.15092801]

>>15092753

Seiko Alpinist

[Anonymous No.15092829]

T H I C C

[Anonymous No.15092830]

>>15092829
definitely my size

[Anonymous No.15092838]

>>15091961
Just give it some light shake or hit… Oh, it's a quartz. Don't know then. Did you press the crown into the non-setting position?
Anyways, congrats on you new shitter.

[Anonymous No.15092840]

>>15092068
>how retard am I?
Probably very much so, but what does that have to do with watches?
>tfw you kinda want those ridiculous retro casios, but can't really justify shelling out money for frivolous things in current situation

[Anonymous No.15092913]

>>15092068
Well done.

[Anonymous No.15092921]

Thoughts on pic related (quartz version) ? I want an affordable diver I can actually wear when sailing and at the beach, and I like the fact that it is reasonably sized (39mm).

[Anonymous No.15092924]

>>15092921
I liek it.

[Anonymous No.15092958]

Last thread some anons where discussing why Vostoks are a meme:
>>15090208
>>Vostok is a meme. Anyeone who buys one for real gets disappointed they ddind't get a seiko isntead.
>You aren't wrong but I do think that the wobbly crown and hilariously Russian loose tolerances have something charming and novel about them
>>15090220
>>>15090208
>I can agre ewith you, but the problem is that Anons aren't told about the wobbly crown and loose tolerances up front at all; it's a surprise on delivery, and then they get accustomed to it because it's 'their' watch and they grow fond of it. You see the same thing with anything from cars to pianos. People find a humane charm in a technological device because imperfection is such a mirror of humanity that they accept the flaw because it's like accepting a person or someone else (by extentsion accepting themselves).
>I would never acept it because I've never bought a flawed watch, so if I did buy one I'd be pissed off. A mechanical watch is a piece of engineering; why waste money on something that should be reasonably fine out of the box? Semes like such a waste.

As a Vostok Shill…err… Vostok Chad, I have to add some things to those statements:
>wobbly crown
It's not a bug, it's a feature! Theres a kinda clutch on the stem that detaches the crown from the stem in the screwing position. While wobbly, that is a much better screwdown crown design than say what role is doing.
>unexpected loose tolerances
they're not really unexpected. It's a <$€100, 200m waterproof, mechanical, automatic watch from russia. No one expects premium fit and finish.

If that's a dealbreaker for you - fine. No one has to like them, just because they're a great piece of horologycal history, but for me, zhats part of the appeal. Also, from a style perspective, their "it's clearly a diver, but unlike anything else" looks are really appealing, especially compared to the "99% of cheap divers look like it" submariner.

[Anonymous No.15092962]

Holy shit lads! I can't believe it!
FUBU still exists AND they make watches!

[Anonymous No.15092963]

>>15092958
Also, with all the >muh heritage shit rolex is pulling, it's quite embarrasing how far removed from the OG sub their current shitters are. Wheras Vostok afaik is 100% the original design, it just doesnt give you an allergx anymore.
Also, the fact that the amphibia is quite small for this day and age, makes it quite versatile to wear with whatever.

[Anonymous No.15092966]

>>15092962
>they make watches!
probably more like
>they slap a logo and some design details on a china sitter
But apart frpm that, your pic doesnt look half bad. gives some slight RO vibes. and totally unlike the image I have in mind when thinking FUBU

[Anonymous No.15092972]

>>15092966
Yeah I'm just having fun, they make a chrono version too in the same case. I'm sure they are exceedingly mediocre but they do feature rhonda movements apparently which is more than I expected.

[Anonymous No.15092974]

>>15092963
Rolex is the biggest fucking meme. That whole "superlative chronometer: officially certified" thing comes from them being literally the only wristwatch manufacturer to register to have their watches certified, when all certifications were for giant regulatory clocks at the time. They were 1st place because they were the only one running and then memed that. They were also the first to wank off celebrity influencers, running huge ads about how Edmund Hillary wore a Rolex Explorer (in reality it was a Precision) and how the guy flying the Concorde for its inaugural journey wore a GMT. Oh, and James Bond.
They make a high quality watch, but the prices are gouged even beyond the norm of Swiss milking and they have always come up on fucking marketing as much as, if not easily more than, quality. What's worse is that somehow the design of their watches is getting worse over time with the Maxi case and shit like the Hulk.

[Anonymous No.15092979]

>>15092921
consider this band

[D-M-T No.15092982]

a. lange & söhne > your fav watch brand

[Anonymous No.15092984]

>>15092982
why haven't you put down your deposit for an odysseus yet, then?

[Anonymous No.15092996]

>>15092982
Literally the posh version of this monstrosity
>>15090941

[Anonymous No.15092998]

>>15092982
What if als was my favourite watch brand?

[Anonymous No.15093001]

>>15092963
Allergyfag here, hi. My Vostok Amfibia's bezel is clearly nickel-plated, and touching it for any longer than it takes to turn does give me the itch. I suspect the body is also, but (on the 420 case) it could be solved by putting the watch on a nato strap.

[Anonymous No.15093010]

>>15093001
Amphibia bodies were always stainless steel. Old bezels were plated brass but new ones are steel too, you can get one for cheap.
Komandirskies are chromed brass.

[Anonymous No.15093035]

>>15092753
hamilton khaki king auto

[Anonymous No.15093096]

My grey flieger finally came in

[Anonymous No.15093102]

>>15093096

I'm a sucker for blued hands

[Anonymous No.15093109]

Are there any watches that are worth the price they demand besides a basic citizen eco drive or a cheap g shock? I'm starting to feel as if everything is marketing and all us watchfags are being rused.

[Anonymous No.15093137]

>>15093109
What exactly do you mean by "worth the price", unless they have a gold bar inside, no, they're not.

[Anonymous No.15093153]

>>15093109
What the fuck do you mean by "worth the price" that's completely relative to what you want and how much money you have

[Anonymous No.15093187]

>>15093096
>>15093102
That looks kinda cheap, but I like it. Just some basic, no frills shitter.
What is it?

>>15093035
Call me an autist, but I hate 24h dial without a 24 complication. What's the fucking point? Might as well paint moon phases or a tide graph or whatever on it, it's going to be as useful.

[Anonymous No.15093194]

>>15093187
>Call me an autist, but I hate 24h dial without a 24 complication.
Nah, you're 100% correct. It just clutters up the face for no reason.

[Anonymous No.15093199]

>>15093187

Yeah it wasn't that expensive. Just a nice little tool watch. It is a stowa flieger 40

[Anonymous No.15093230]

>>15093109
Buy a used Rolex from the 70's if you want bang for your buck. They're worth every penny.

[Anonymous No.15093264]

>>15093230
>vintage rolex
Wow all I have to do is sell a testicle

[Anonymous No.15093277]

>>15092656
that’s honestly 3x the thickness of the seiko I posted

[Anonymous No.15093356]

>>15093264
Imagine being this poor

[Anonymous No.15093361]

>>15091320 Neat chrono, I agree with your words
>>15092801 These are nice, but deserve better photo
>>15093035 Nice, they'll be better without 13-24 numbers

I recently bought 105W. Are they /fa/? Original PU strap is unwearable for me, so I replaced it with a black Nato.

[Anonymous No.15093365]

These one my friend gave me after I saved life of her animal. I don't wear them much, but like the concept of the solar charging. Chronograph is fun to use too.

[Anonymous No.15093366]

My favorite. This was a gift form my dad. I often wear these when I go out. Eco-Drive means they covert light to electricity. No battery change needed, so good water resistance then. I like the luminescence of these. Quickly charged, then glow all evening.

[Anonymous No.15093394]

>>15093264
Anyone who is even remotely financially responsible can afford a vintage rolex if they want one. You can get an air-king for practically fuck-all.

[Anonymous No.15093412]

For me?

It's getting made redundant from your 200K a year job and having to get used to wearing shitters again.

[Anonymous No.15093415]

>>15093366
>>15093365
Fuck, why do I like ultra busy dials so much? Even though I’ll never use those functions.

[Anonymous No.15093438]

>>15093394
Is there no better watch you can think of getting for 2000 dollars?

[Anonymous No.15093450]

>>15093415
There is busy and there's messy. And there's Messi.

[Anonymous No.15093515]

>>15093230
How are they? Overpriced shit with hideous Seiko5-tier bracelets, plexi, badly mantained, lacklustre case desing...

Their competitors of the day are much cheaper now, and at least as good.

[Anonymous No.15093522]

>>15093515
It has a crown on it so it's worth 10 million dollars. You don't want people to think you're poor by not owning one, do you?

[Anonymous No.15093525]

>>15090541
Anyone have recommendations for entry level (preferably more budget friendly) watches? I literally don't own a single watch so I'm starting from scratch.

[Anonymous No.15093528]

>>15093525
pic for attention

[Anonymous No.15093533]

>>15093525
How much money do you want to spend, where will you be wearing this watch, and what do you expect out of it? There are multiple entry levels. Some people think 2000 dollars is entry level. And there is a difference between a dive watch and dress watch

[Anonymous No.15093546]

>>15093153
Not like that.

[Anonymous No.15093552]

anyone know good super slim quartz watches? like 5-8mm

[Anonymous No.15093556]

>>15093552

[Anonymous No.15093557]

>>15093556
perfect anon thanks

[Anonymous No.15093561]

>>15092962
ronda, saphire, 10ATM.
I actually like this. bracelet is weird but not offensive, it looks cheap but I like it. it's 44mm but I mean they're a hip hop company. if anything it's a wonder it isn't bigger.
that's the only good one imo. the rest look really stupid.

[Anonymous No.15093563]

>new watch
>leather strap is shiny
any anons know this pain

[Anonymous No.15093581]

https://www.jomashop.com/montblanc-4810-watch-115935.html?utm_medium=cpa&utm_campaign=1225267&utm_source=CJ&cjevent=10393bb76ba311ea82e104050a240613

Is Montblanc good?

[Anonymous No.15093601]

>>15093552
The best slim quartz i can think of is the JLC Heraion (pic). Even the Heraion chronograph, or the Master Control Quartz Chronograph.

[Anonymous No.15093603]

>ac3 finally selling off all his grandpa daniel wellington clones

[Anonymous No.15093604]

>>15093552
>super slim quartz

[Anonymous No.15093606]

>>15093603
Cringe pic.

[Anonymous No.15093621]

>>15093604
Those are always an option, 3mm thick too. People will think its something like a Swatch Skin tho.

[Anonymous No.15093623]

What's Obama wearing?

[Anonymous No.15093632]

>>15093623
Looks like a random shitty Polar.

[Anonymous No.15093634]

>>15093623
looks like some fitbit

[Anonymous No.15093645]

>>15093601
The chronographs are pretty cool with the pulse scale, and slim too

[Anonymous No.15093655]

>>15093528
>loose band
>2/10, would not bang
But seriously, you gotta give us some more info.
Also, since this is /fa/:
What style are you going for?

[Anonymous No.15093690]

>spent over three grand on various watches
>this $15 unit still goes better with almost all my fits
how did they do it bros

[Anonymous No.15093691]

>>15093655
Its her Bf´s watch suposedly

[Anonymous No.15093694]

I just got my watch in the mail yesterday. Could you guys help me with changing the time and size so it'll fit me? The watch is pic related.

[Anonymous No.15093702]

>>15093623
His electronic tag

[Anonymous No.15093703]

>>15093694
I'm a sucker for russian watches, and a retro russki digital sounds like just the thing, but lol, reading russian? Nope.

[Anonymous No.15093719]

>>15093703
>>15093694
They probably cloned the casio functionality

[Anonymous No.15093721]

>>15093691
>implying a Rolex owner would ever stoop so low as to have sex with a woman

[Anonymous No.15093723]

>>15093694
Holy shit i want one, what is it?

[Anonymous No.15093726]

>>15093723
Elektronika 52 Signal

[Anonymous No.15093762]

>>15093366
Thats a big boy, whats your wrist size?

[Anonymous No.15093775]

Thinking of getting a pic related, thoughts?

[Anonymous No.15093778]

>>15093775
Consider the Mako which is essentially the same watch with a different and more unique dial. Or the Kamasu which is a bit more expensive but the best dive watch for value in the price bracket. Or the tried and true Seiko Turtle which is the most comfortable diver in the price bracket.

[Anonymous No.15093779]

>>15093690
The 80's were a crazy time when it was considered fashionable to wear plastic sci-fi looking tech on your wrist even if you were rocking a suit. Hence minimalist digital watches like that are universally /fa/

[Anonymous No.15093786]

>>15093778
Does the Turtle have a hacking movement? I initially looked at the Seiko SKX but it doesn't have one, and that's a dealbreaker for me

[Anonymous No.15093794]

>>15093786
The Turtle uses a 4R36 which has hacking and hand winding. SKX uses the 7S26 or something which is an old as fuck movement, like literally 70 years old at this point. The real issue with the Turtle is that Seiko is famous for misaligned chapter rings/bezels on their watches, something that can be fixed easily by yourself or probably corrected by a watch repairer for cheap, but it is annoying.

[Anonymous No.15093799]

>>15093762
7 in

[Anonymous No.15093803]

>>15093563
pls help

[Anonymous No.15093808]

>>15093799
Wears allright on you M8. Im 7 inch myself and have been thinking about getting a 45 mm watch. Guess it depends on lugs design as well.

[Anonymous No.15093827]

>>15093137
>>15093153
Watches are both jewelry and tech, but jewelry is generally overpriced. What gives the most of both without trying to trick people into paying more than they should?

[Anonymous No.15093831]

>>15093827
why do you want a watch

[Anonymous No.15093832]

>>15093827
Seiko seems to actually give people a good quality watch for a reasonable price, even if they have been raising that price in recent years. Meanwhile Swiss, mountain Jews that they are, charge 10x for a watch of the same quality because they want you to believe if you do you are supporting some 90 year old aryan artisan whose soul flows into every Tissot Powermatic like a gypsy curse

[Anonymous No.15093862]

anyone in here order from sakura watches? they seem weirdly cheap

[Anonymous No.15093868]

>>15093187
>>15093194
Just think, there's got to be a reason for the 24hr numerals if the most no-frills, utilitarian, style of watch (field watch) most commonly has them. Being able to tell the time in 24hr format at a glance is very useful if you ever have to deal with it. It's intended to be a stylized version of a field watch, so I completely understand if you don't care for the look, but removing the 24hr numerals would make it less true to form

[Anonymous No.15093879]

>>15093808
It depends on a lot of things; case diameter, lug length and curvature, wrist size, musculature, personal style, etc. If you wear a lot of baggy or oversized clothing you can probably get away with a watch that would be too big for you under normal circumstances. Always try watches on before you buy them if you possibly can

[Anonymous No.15093880]

>>15093868
It's stupid. If you deal with 24 hour time on a regular basis, it is second nature to convert between the two.

[Anonymous No.15093881]

>>15093832
If recent price hike showed us anything then its the fact Seiko wants to be like the swiss brands so fucking hard. They absolutely would jew you as bad as swiss if they could. But they cant..yet.

[Anonymous No.15093888]

>>15093862
If you live in EU or similiar hellhole with high import taxes and what not, you gonna get screwed by customs. Also good luck with warranty.

[Anonymous No.15093893]

>>15093881
I don't like it but to be fair, admittedly the price hike did come with upgrades for a lot of watches. A new movement, occasional redesigning, and sometimes even sapphire. The problem is that while there's still value there, there needs to be more value. If you're going to foolishly start chasing the midrange market you need to offer exponentially more value, especially when you have established yourself as the value brand

[Anonymous No.15093903]

>>15093880
Then why do just about all military issue field watches have them, hmm? They deal with 24hr time exclusively. I get it, it's not that hard to convert, but you can't do it at a glance, while your mind is occupied by some other task

[Anonymous No.15093905]

>>15093879
Thats what I thought, try the watch live and see if it fits me.

Been eyeing up Tissot seastar quartz chrono as a summer casual beater. Its bordering on what I consider clown size category of watches but design is strangely interesting to me. Will try to find AD near me and try it on. Then order it online for 40% less..

[Anonymous No.15093911]

>>15093905
Tissot Seastar sucks. Definitely try it in person before you buy that. In my experience it's one of those watches that you regret buying when you own it and wear it for a while, like marrying an annoying woman.

[Anonymous No.15093915]

>>15093893
Which new model got the sapphire upgrade? Im not aware od that.

4r movements upgrade in 5kx series is tragicaly not enough, considering you get the same movement in sub 100 bucks watches.

[Anonymous No.15093922]

>>15093911
Why does seastar suck? It has the mallshitter vibes but other than that seems allright.

[Anonymous No.15093923]

>>15093915
The Monsters got sapphire but then the price tripled. That's what I mean by the value not being there. The new King Turtles have sapphire, I don't know what the street price is on those but they seem to be going for around 150 dollars more than the regular Turtle. I think that's almost reasonable but still feels like a big ask.

[Anonymous No.15093926]

>>15093794
>like literally 70 years old at this point.
No, not even close.

[Anonymous No.15093928]

>>15093922
Something about the proportions looks off. Try it in person.

[Anonymous No.15093938]

It’s up, boys!
https://youtu.be/WS1X6ULlI8Q

[Anonymous No.15093940]

do the seiko “solar” watches actually need to sun to function? will they work in quarantine

[Anonymous No.15093963]

>>15093940
Mine are still working.

[Anonymous No.15093971]

>>15093940
all modern solar watches will charge fine from indoor light.

[Anonymous No.15093977]

>>15093971
fuck I love this watch, it's like some kind of industrial art

[Anonymous No.15093984]

>>15093827
Microbrands like Helios

[Anonymous No.15093987]

>>15093525
Speedy, Sub, Explorer, that's about it.

[Anonymous No.15093995]

how can you think about watches in a time like this?

[Anonymous No.15094001]

>>15093995
Easy, lots of online stores are having sales because of the unstable situation.

[Anonymous No.15094025]

>>15093995

[Anonymous No.15094028]

>>15093694
Buttons are:
LIGHT----ON
MODE----SELECT

[Anonymous No.15094033]

>>15093903
>>Then why do just about all military issue field watches have them, hmm?
Because the average soldier IQ is 80?

[Anonymous No.15094035]

In old watches you can find under a grand, are omega or higher end seiko watches better?

[Anonymous No.15094038]

>>15093775
Orient bracelets are horribly built trash. Be prepared to buy an aftermarket one or swap it out for a strap.

[Anonymous No.15094039]

>>15094035
omegas will impress sluts

[Anonymous No.15094055]

>>15094039
sure but so will literally any watch, sluts can be impressed by basic casio shitters as long as the fit is right because watches are so rare

[Anonymous No.15094060]

>>15094055
I see a lot of younger people wearing watches now. I think they are coming back.

[Anonymous No.15094061]

>>15094055
No they can't unless you're in middle school, and even then pretty sure most of them are already on Instagram and know what Rolex/Patek/AP/etc. are.

[Anonymous No.15094085]

is a 14k speedmaster stupid to buy if I only make 40k a year

[Anonymous No.15094090]

>>15094085
Why is your Speedmaster 2-3 times the normal price? Was it actually worn by a moon man?

[Anonymous No.15094093]

Are there watches that actually look better with age, with small scratches and possible "patina"?

[Anonymous No.15094100]

>>15094093
Most of them.

[Anonymous No.15094104]

>>15093581
Not good fa?

[Anonymous No.15094107]

>>15094093
divers

[Anonymous No.15094120]

>>15094104
It's fine. Montblanc makes nice watches at an okay price. There's just not much to say, what you see is what you get.

[Anonymous No.15094127]

>>15094090
canadian pesos

[Anonymous No.15094145]

>>15094127
>>15094085
as a guy who bought an omega speedmaster profession 300m while wagecucking fast food and living in his mom's attic, I'll tell you that, while not the smartest decision, it's something you could do, but only if
1) you are not a wristlet and can handle the speedmaster
2) you have tried it on in person and are absolutely comfortable with how it feels on the wrist, how it looks, and its weight
3) you really, really like this watch, it will complete you on some spiritual level, and it's probably going to be the only watch that costs this much that you're going to buy for the next couple decades
4) you are financially stable so you don't have any debt and buying this watch will not put you in the poorhouse and if you are buying this on credit or installments, you can make all the payments
5) you are financially responsible so you will not buy this and then spend 10k more on bongs and dragon dildos
6) you really, really like this watch

[Anonymous No.15094153]

>>15094033
But I thought it becomes second nature if you deal with 24hr regularly? If it's that intuitive to convert immediately under any circumstance then anyone should be able to do it. Point is, if it wasn't useful, it wouldn't be there

[Anonymous No.15094164]

tfw the boot don't fit :(

[Anonymous No.15094174]

>>15094127
Dude, I was looking at some of my stocks yesterday, and I did not realize how much of a nose dive the CAD had taken.

I think I know where I'm taking a vacation after all this crap blows over.

[Anonymous No.15094182]

>buy a $70 shitter from amazon on impulse late at night
>it’s “okay” but all the dimensions are slightly wrong
>remorse.png
not much lost in terms of cash but yeah thanks for reading my blog

[Anonymous No.15094193]

>>15094182
post watch, or at least a link to the Amazon page

[Anonymous No.15094209]

>>15094193
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B0013LKFQ4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_image_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[Anonymous No.15094244]

>>15094145
That's a weird in between, to like watches so much that you'd drop tons of money on it, and yet be satisfied with one. Most people either get the powerful urge to make a collection if they're into them. The only exception I see is from people who get a watch to check a box, in which case it's not a smart idea to do as a poorfag.

[Anonymous No.15094251]

>>15094244
most people who collect watches have a grail watch that represents the ultimate in what a watch is to them. you can have some other watches every now and then before and after while working your way to the grail or fantasizing about it if it's something financially impossible for you, in order to scratch the itch, but the dream is to have the one watch that will complete you, a true love in comparison to which all other watches are just flings of passion.

[Anonymous No.15094258]

>>15094251
Ok, and what happens when you get that grail watch? You either drop the horology hobby entirely or you find an even more expensive and unattainable watch to be your new grail and fixate on that instead. It's the hedonism treadmill.

[Anonymous No.15094260]

>>15094251
lolno

[Anonymous No.15094262]

Test

[Anonymous No.15094263]

>>15094258
>Ok, and what happens when you get that grail watch?
you can buy other watches after you get your grail watch, just like you can find other women sexy despite being married

[Anonymous No.15094265]

>>15094244
i’m the guy who originally asked about the speedmaster, I started my collection a few years ago, so far I have 4 watches in different styles that i’m happy with. All are under $500. for the past few months though I just can’t get this dark side of the moon collection out of my head...i’m not in any debt and will probably just settle for something less considering it would be 4x the price of my car

[Anonymous No.15094287]

>>15094263
you don't fuck those other women though (inb4 yes you do)

[Anonymous No.15094289]

>>15094287
you can't sell your wife either if you don't like her

[Anonymous No.15094296]

Own a few Casio's already, but finally got a G-Shock to round off the collection.

[Anonymous No.15094298]

>>15094296
post more cat

[Anonymous No.15094301]

>>15094296
What does the bluetooth do?

[Anonymous No.15094310]

>>15094301
Not him, but it varies on modules. On some it will update the time and let you check the power level on the watch. On some others you can push a button on the watch and save a GPS coordinate.

It's pretty dumb, honestly. It adds no real utility to the watch.

[Anonymous No.15094312]

What's the cheapest watch that has heat blued hands instead of chemically blued?

[Anonymous No.15094322]

>>15094298

On it.

>>15094301

Like >>15094310 said it lets you sync the watch up to your phone. On this model it's so you can sync up the time, but I haven't really messed around with it yet. Not really sure if it's a feature I'll ever really use since I got the watch more for the solar power, but I'll at least try it out.

[Anonymous No.15094323]

pure sex

[Anonymous No.15094325]

>>15094323
why is there a bowling ball stuck to the side of it

[Anonymous No.15094327]

>>15094296
>>15094298
Cat seems to like the watch.

[Anonymous No.15094330]

>>15094322
I'll give you a tip: don't sync your watch to your phone time.

I've found that when I use time.gov to compare my watch and phone, my phone is anywhere from .25 seconds to nearly 2.0 seconds off of UTC where my GW-5000-1JF is right on UTC from using the multi-band 6.

[Anonymous No.15094333]

>>15094322
>>15094327
What a beautiful cat.
The watch is alright, I'm not a fan of stuff like bluetooth or multiband that I think is kind of unnecessary.

[Anonymous No.15094336]

>>15094333
>What a beautiful cat.
Not that guy, but you're not kidding. What a beautiful feline. Mine is so ugly in comparison.

[Anonymous No.15094341]

>>15094330
Thanks for the advice, I'll keep that in mind.

>>15094333
>>15094336
Thanks guys. She's a great cat, has tons of energy.

[Anonymous No.15094407]

>nearing 40
>can't afford an adult watch
>can't afford an adult car
>can't afford an adult house
Literally what the fuck am I living for at this point? No matter how hard I work I will have to stretch beyond my means to buy entry level stuff in all categories, in all aspects of life, this is incredibly humiliating and disheartening.

[Anonymous No.15094413]

>>15094407
I'm kind of the same. 30 year old boomer and I don't own a car and I rent. But then again I don't enjoy driving. What do you mean by "adult watch" though? A Rolex? An adult watch is whatever watch you like, not something that shows you're in a certain tax bracker

[Anonymous No.15094416]

>>15094413
I enjoy driving in theory until I remember that since I'm not a proper adult I don't have the money for fines, I'll get harassed by the cops because I don't really have a reason to drive anywhere, I don't have a lawyer, and so on.

I also enjoy walking in theory until I remember that I'm a friendless ugly loser.

[Anonymous No.15094418]

>>15094416
Your watch can be your friend.

[Anonymous No.15094421]

>>15094407
>can't afford an adult watch
just buy fakes, bro. tho i wouldn't buy a fake of anything that costs >$10k if you want to pass

[Anonymous No.15094425]

Is it retarded to wear a watch on my right wrist? I am lefthanded but was corrected to write with the right when I was young.

[Anonymous No.15094426]

>>15094416
why would you get harassed?

[Anonymous No.15094428]

>>15094425
Not at all, smooth brain. You're supposed to wear your watch your non-dominant hand.

[Anonymous No.15094436]

>>15094323
shiny cases always make a watch look cheap

[Anonymous No.15094447]

>>15094428
I was wondering because I write with my right people might think I am retarded by assuming I am right handed and wearing on my dominant hand.

[Anonymous No.15094450]

>>15094447
if you write right, wear left

[Anonymous No.15094458]

>>15094251
>>>15094145
>it will complete you on some spiritual level,
Imagine attaching this much spiritual importance to the mindless act of consumerism

[Anonymous No.15094460]

>>15094458
it's mindless consumerism if you buy something like a speedmaster just because it's a speedmaster. it's not mindless consumerism if it means something more to you. this is not a hard concept. you can like things for reasons besides "a marketer told me to."

[Anonymous No.15094471]

>>15094458
I don't know senpai. I have pretty serious attachments to a few of the watches I own. One them I bought on my first overseas contract and another my fiance bought me on a vacation in Europe. Neither of them are particularly expensive but they mean a lot to me on a level that I guess you could call spiritual.

[Anonymous No.15094479]

>>15092974
Is there anything more mindlessly consumerist than the watch industry

[Anonymous No.15094482]

>>15094479
Almost everything else fashion-related

[Anonymous No.15094489]

>>15094296
got my first G-Shock last week, m’self

[Anonymous No.15094491]

I love the size, dial, and hands but paying $200 for a seiko quartz is dumb. This shouldn't cost more than $50.

[Anonymous No.15094502]

>>15094491
Oh boy wait until you find out about Grand Seiko

[Anonymous No.15094504]

>>15094491
If the movement is good, the price is justified. Whats the movement they put in this?

[Anonymous No.15094509]

>>15094502
> 9F
or, you know, Credor's $400k quartz watch

[Anonymous No.15094522]

>>15094489
Nice! Really like the look of that one. The color scheme makes it a super stand out piece.

[Anonymous No.15094525]

>>15094182
You can return it and get your money back. Amazon has a certain date window, as long as you don't go past that then you can get a refund.

You don't have to pay for postage, but you will need a box or some sort of parcel bag and a printer to print the return label.

[Anonymous No.15094535]

>>15094522
thanks. I thought it was a bit of a funny gag, getting a watch meant to be beat up in colors that are easily scuffed. I really like your red screen model too. Might get that or the clear red skeleton down the line if my Casio addiction gets too bad.

[Anonymous No.15094542]

Are bronze watches really that great or is it just a fad?

[Anonymous No.15094544]

>>15094535
The skeleton models look pretty interesting. Would definitely like to try one on at some point to see how they look on the wrist in person.

[Anonymous No.15094547]

>>15094502
I don't mind paying for a 9F, but $200 for a basic quartz is pure jewery.

>>15094504
7n01

[Anonymous No.15094584]

>>15093366
Excellent choice: I have the black on black model. Fucking awesome beater.

>>15094258
You wear it in good health and enjoy the fuck out of it. If I got my Speedy, I'd probably not wear anything else. It's that simple actually. Further, the 'hobby' of collecting watches would be finished in terms of purchasing, but not in terms of researching or learning. There are phases to everything. I have 1 pocket watch which I adore, and I'll never need to or feel the emotion to want to buy another. Do I stop reading about pocket watch movements? Nope.

>>15094323
Fun, though I was never a fan of the 8-day display...looks odd in person.

>pic related was mine, and is now my brother's.

>>15094542
Fad. Companies enjoy charging you for things that would normally be a detriment. See Black Diamonds.

That being said, I think it still looks cool...it's just not something that should be MORE expensive than the regular.

[Anonymous No.15094597]

>>15094584
Yeah I think the look of bronze is interesting. Maybe I'll get a watch in bronze from China

[Anonymous No.15094606]

>>15093356
I'm so sick of people sucking Rolex dick to flex on poorfags.
Rolex used to be an upscale tool watch brand worn on the wrist of middle class laborers. Then those Swiss homo jews increased the price exponentially while also cutting production down to a tenth. This skyrocketed the price of used Rolexes. And then in response to the inflation they themselves created, Rolex proceeded to jack up the price even higher.
Now Rolex sells you watches with no warranty so you cannot flip them too. You would have to be a serious cuck to buy Rolex in this day and age. There is no such thing as a deal or discount on a Rolex, you are always getting ripped off.

[Anonymous No.15094608]

Why's Breguet so seldom discussed on /fa/ ?

[Anonymous No.15094615]

>>15094606
You seem to forget that modern people don't need wristwatches anymore, least of all, mechanical wristwatches that require periodic servicing. Rolex, like any watch over $4.50, is a luxury. Poorfags lust after luxury items no matter what, so you can't really blame people who are fans of the brand from talking about them in glowing terms.

Consider too that many watchmakers love Rolex as a practical device: they're reportedly easy to service, easy to maintain, and they don't give trouble. They're very well engineered, and the quality control is exceptional for a mass-produced item. There are many professional watchmakers who wear a Rolex as a daily wear because it's a 'set it and forget it' watch. That has a certain appeal to it, I can't deny that.

As for Rolex artificially adjusting their price-point and desirability based on 'availability', any company can do this if their product is in demand. See Diamonds and DeBeers.

>>15094608
I answered this in the last thread. Go back and look.

>pic for >>15093366, my blackey...

[Anonymous No.15094619]

>>15094615
I just think Rolex is a fucking scummy scam company and it makes my eyes roll to hear people treating them as some hallmark of class

[Anonymous No.15094622]

>>15094619
It's not a hallmark of class, it's a hallmark of success retard. It gives you the right to shit on the plebs.

[Anonymous No.15094627]

>>15094622
Rolexes are pleb as fuck though. If you really want to shit on plebs you would have an AL&S or a Dufour.

[Anonymous No.15094630]

>>15094627
No, if you really wanted to shit on plebs you would have a Patek 6300A

[Anonymous No.15094631]

>>15094619
Then ignore them. Class is only spoken of publicly by people who don't have any.

Perhaps what you hate most is what Rolex represents: wealth and the perception of status. But that's outside of Rolex, and affects other brands too.

When you do even cursory research into modern watchmaking, it becomes very obvious when analyzing a Rolex movement that they've thought out a great many things to make a watchmaker's life a lot easier. Furthermore, their innovations allow for a more robust watch overall, and this (in some ways) explains their hesitation in altering the outer aesthetic approach too quickly. But that's another argument entirely I guess.

What can one say...it's like owning a Mercedes. People buy it, usually for the status, and rarely for the engineering (even though depending on the model the engineering can be excellent).

>>15094622
I don't think anyone needs to shit on a pleb Anon...everyone has been 'down-and-out' at some point in their life. The question is whether or not they're able to pull themselves out.

>>15094627
I disagree: plebs have no idea what these are. They don't recognize the status from afar. If you wore a VC, no pleb would recognize it as any different from a really nice quartz Seiko (especially ones without any second indicators). While I lust after a George Daniels, I know that I'd never get one...but if I did, I can tell you that the vast majority of people I'd meet would never know the provenance, the horology, or the thought that went into it.

Hell, even my unobtanium Omega flies under the radar except to aficionados. The only way you 'impress' the pleb is to show them something they lust after...they don't lust after Pateks, they lust after Rolexes.

[Anonymous No.15094635]

People who buy watches to impress or style on others are retarded and missing the point of watches.

[Anonymous No.15094636]

>>15094631
This is why I dont like you watch people. Past by these threads and read your post and what is with this snobbish attitude on watches. It's a God damn watch! An accessory that most people don't give a damn about!! This "pleb" thing is so dumb
You guys must really think you're better than others cause you have a watch that no one knows about.

For me I have a seiko 5 and a gifted apple watch. They work well for the stuff I do. Future watch is a grand seiko. I don't care about whether people notice or not. I have these things because they are used for a task and I like them. God fuck these watch threads

[Anonymous No.15094641]

>>15094636
Yes all watch people care about is flexing brand name-

[Anonymous No.15094642]

>>15094631
My problem with Rolex is their bullshit business practices. How is it acceptable for a company to withhold a warranty on something you buy for a year?
>but they do it to prevent flipping
Which exists because they created that false scarcity
>but diamond companies...
Yeah, and? Rolex is a horseshit company.

[Anonymous No.15094648]

>>15094641
So do you guys have a mental disorder for taking This much energy into watches? I mean I watched some dude break down a Japanese and Swiss automatic and it's cool but I don't think I need to talk to other watch people

[Anonymous No.15094652]

>>15094648
The people who are really into watches are freaks. Here, I will show you.
https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/street-style-baselworld-2019

[Anonymous No.15094653]

just let your freak flag fly

[Anonymous No.15094658]

>>15094636
I fail to understand why you have a problem with anything I've said. I'll put it to the good people on this board: is there anything I've said that is 'snobbish'?

Of course it's a watch, an accessory. As for the use of the term 'pleb', I used it in response to others who used it too. Perhaps there's another word or description one can use: the uninformed. The average person doesn't care about horology in the slightest. For people who do, there are varying levels of knowledge and financial input they're willing to put towards this hobby.

It's not about being 'better than others' because I have a cool watch. I'm already better than others, and that's a fact. But there are people who are better than me too: that is the challenge of real life. Having a watch doesn't make someone automatically superior. It only means they had the resources to put towards such a purchase and/or the intelligence to determine which watch to get that satisfies them.

Nothing wrong with the Seiko 5 (it's a beater that has a very solid reputation, especially in the previous iterations). Future watch is a grand seiko...have you tried them on? They never seem to work on me, but if you find one that sings to you, go for it. I've always been impressed with the internal engineering...the future of watches, in my view.

I think you need to either drink more, drink less, or fap. Then you'll be a little more relaxed Anon.

>>15094642
Any company can have their policy; it's up to you to decide if you want to 'buy in'. I'm sorry, but I think it's unreasonable to criticize a brand like that if you don't want to buy in in the first place. The grapes seem more sour than ever. False scarcity is real, and the diamond companies thrive on it. You may think it's horseshit, and that's fine, but it's business. It's not personal. They're providing a status symbol, not a practical thing that everyone needs. Most of luxury (clothing, accessories, shoes, etc) is the same.

[Anonymous No.15094661]

>>15094652
Dude all those photos of those people look so fa and have cool ass watches. Compared to this thread that website is everything you guys want to be

[Anonymous No.15094665]

>>15094648
No, hobbies are actually quite healthy, as long as you don't endanger your ability to live in any way that is permanent. Most men I know have hobbies they're passionate about, though it can range from anything like cars to old books.

Watches offer a lot to men who like mechanical and technological objects, and there are many areas of complexity in which they can be enthralled. As for >>15094652; you have to understand that for many of these people it's not only a hobby but also a business, and the projection of 'enthusiasm' is similar to what you see in the access media whenever something by Disney premiers.

>>15094661
I don't fall into that category, Anon. I'm quite happy being me, as my life adventure is more exciting than theirs. Sometimes after a while in life you learn to trust your intelligence and your abilities to learn and research...then you realize that the people who follow others don't really know much better, and through biology or training (or both) they've given up the struggle to learn on their own and instead just want easy answers handed to them on how to be individual. Then they become one of the flock, and the snake eats itself.

Save up, buy what you love, and wear it for your own enjoyment. If others like it, it's a bonus. If they ignore it, who cares.

[Anonymous No.15094669]

>>15094658
You aren't getting it, and it's sad. I find Rolex's practices distasteful. I do not want a Rolex, because their policies are distasteful so I do not want to associate myself with their brand. They can do it, but I can criticize it. How am I unable to criticize them unless I buy a Rolex? If you see someone shitting their pants in public, can you not remark negatively about that unless you've also sharted yourself? Do you see how asinine your reply is? How is any of this sour grapes when I don't want one? Are you just talking bullshit to defend the company? Do you realize that, were you half the connoisseur you fancy yourself, you would agree to disagree and move on without the insult?

[Anonymous No.15094676]

>>15094665
Those people just look like clowns. If you want to show enthusiasm you show it just by being at Basel since only a horological superfreak would submit themselves to the gouging that happens there. Dressing up as a clown is all on them.

[Anonymous No.15094680]

>>15094665
I understand it now. Ignorant before your post but it's a hobby. I have hobbies too where I know more than average about a particular topic. That's being said.... Why post on 4chan? This place is a cesspool. If you have all these lived experiences why not do what you do instead of posting here? See my paradox?

[Anonymous No.15094685]

>>15094680
Because watches are really niche and most people don't care about watches so he is desperate to show off.his collection and talk about it anywhere.

[Anonymous No.15094689]

>>15094669
I do get it, I just don't see why you need to get your pantaloons in a Krueller.

You find Rolexe's business practices unethical. Fine. You don't want to associate yourself with the brand, no problem; they'll survive without you and not recognize the exclusion. You can definitely criticize them...I just don't see what the point is or what it will achieve. It's...a waste of energy, isn't it? Also, how did I insult you? (and do you have any idea where you are?)

>>15094676
Well, Basel has changed you know. The watchworld is in serious decline, and the alarm has been ringing for the past 3 years. Bottom line is that the only market that exists is the Chinese and some of the Arabs...that's about it. The Chinese money has at best another decade before it runs its course, and America's energy sector means that the Arab money is also not guaranteed forever. Then you have other problems too...aesthetic and design dead-ends and technological developments that threaten to make the lever escapement a thing of the past. The modern watch world is in danger Anon, and the people who go to Basel now do so for the most part to make their blogs and channels relevant.

>>15094680
Oh, I do so because it's a form of recreation. Sometimes you find Anons here who have very surprising depths of knowledge in specified areas. There's one Anon here who knows just about all there is to know about Accutrons and other Tuning Fork movements. There's another who used to post who was someone who knew Lemania 5100s like the back of his hand. und so wieter....

The bottom line is I enjoy talking in a forum without having to censor myself the way I would on a 'normal' watch forum. We can curse, we can argue, we can do all the things that skip the pleasantries of the modern world. I don't have to say, 'I respectfully disagree' or 'while I respect your opinion' or 'we'll agree to disagree'....none of that shit. Furthermore, if I'm wrong, Anons will call me out on it.

[Anonymous No.15094691]

>>15094680
Not him, but at least here you're not going to get a hugbox with people saying "wear it in good health!" to every piece of dogshit out there.

[Anonymous No.15094692]

>>15093533

Sorry for the delay guys, I had to go to work.
Realistically no more than like $150 for my first one. Just looking for something nice looking to get started with. I realize that's a pretty low price point.
As for style, something that pairs nicely with a suit but could work with a more dressed down business casual

[Anonymous No.15094694]

>>15094692
>>15093655
meant to tag you too

[Anonymous No.15094695]

>>15094692
Try Citizen; my post from Friday >>15091393
I like the square ones...though I have no idea if they look good on my wrist or not. Good place to start, as mechanicals are not great in that range nor do they tend to look good in that price range either. Unless you go vintage and have the servicing problems.

I don't know if you're lucky with work or not...they are paying me to stay home for two weeks...so we'll see what happens after...lol

>pic unrelated

[Anonymous No.15094697]

>>15094689
Are you seriously telling me I can't criticize Rolex's business policies because it's a waste of energy, like that's an actual argument? Nice job admitting that you have been talking out your ass this whole time.

[Anonymous No.15094701]

>>15094697
No, you absolutely can criticize them, but it's akin to yelling at the moon for looking so sad.

>it's not your fault Anon...

[Anonymous No.15094707]

>>15094692
You could try an Orient Mako for an automatic that dresses up or down easily. Otherwise just look for Citizen/Bulova/Seiko quartz watches and pick whichever you like best. Or a Casio Edifice or something.

[Anonymous No.15094714]

>>15094701
Who cares if it's a waste of energy? If I can criticize them, then what does it matter? I can and will. Just like it's a waste of energy for you to bitch about it, but you're doing it anyway. You can't see the irony? You are wasting energy right now by essentially saying nothing but "I disapprove of you complaining but you can do it." Literally as pointless as me complaining about Rolex, and in fact infinitely moreso.
I was extending a courtesy to you by not just calling you a fucking retard but the time for subtlety is over.

[Anonymous No.15094716]

>I was extending a courtesy to you by not just calling you a fucking retard but the time for subtlety is over.

Thank GOD....I was beginning to think I'd run into Bill again...

So, tell me what you really think.

>It's not your fault. Listen to me Anon...it's not your fault.

[Anonymous No.15094721]

>>15094716
Retard, I'm going to attempt to explain this as simply as possible. If I am allowed my opinion, but the opinion does not matter, then why do you care enough to complain about it?
You cannot answer this question, so you continue to beclown yourself by acting like a fag greentexting "it's not your fault" as though there is even something for me to be faulted for. You're an incoherent dumbass with no argument receding from reality because you cannot actually defend your own asinine views.
You are everything wrong with this hobby, and now everyone can see it.

[Anonymous No.15094723]

>>15094695
I work in news media so thankfully I can work fully remote no problem, though I still have crazy anxiety about what would happen to me if I got fired. Not like anyone is hiring these days other than grocery stores which I'm trying to avoid.
But that's a great suggestion anon I'll look into this thank you!

>>15094707
I'll look into these as well! Thanks a million guys!

[Anonymous No.15094724]

>>15094695
Fucking perfection, I would pay Omega's bullshit over priced le special edition 7000-10000 for a reproduction.

Post collections, still waiting for a Sub no date from my AD so I can hopefully have enough purchases to get a Daytona in a few years. Yeah I know generic Rolex. I'm a simple guy and I've only paid retail for my Rolex.

[Anonymous No.15094728]

>>15094721
>Hey...it's not your fault.

>>15094723
Well, keep your eyes open and careful of doorknobs, elevator buttons, and countertops (including keyboards). Both soap and hand sanitizer will work, so just be a little hyperaware and you should be fine as long as you're not sharing communal spaces (like break rooms). Sorry the suggestion is weak...your budget is really low. Consider saving for a few months and spending around 500 or less...you'll have many more options, including vintage.

>>15094724
They'll never reproduce it. Sadly, as we've seen with their 'Cal. 321 Reissue', they take a movement, reverse engineer it like the Chinese, make changes so that its easier to manufacture (under the guise of 'necessary improvements') and then sell it to the public for an exorbitant amount (that rivals what real Cal. 321s cost). Such is the business world.

I don't understand though, regarding the Daytona. Why don't you buy secondhand? There are more than enough of them floating around, and also, you'd be able to avoid the subdial problem they have on the new ones if you go vintage.

>no collection shot...but this is the most recent addition. Holding COSC standards, but better now that I know precisely how to carry it.

[Anonymous No.15094730]

>>15094636
>You guys must really think you're better than others cause you have a watch that no one knows about.
Actually everyone knows Rolex.

[Anonymous No.15094731]

>>15094730
That's the joke Anon.
>Insert Rainier Wolfcastle here

[Anonymous No.15094735]

>>15094692
Orient Mako/Ray are your best bets for automatics in the 150 dollar price range unless you want to roll the dice on something Chinese. They are basically the same watch except for the dial. I can't remember which one is which but the one with the circles is more of a standard diver with big markers so you can tell the time quickly at a glance, and big markers = more space for lume so you get more visibility at night too. The one with numbers is more unique and a bit classier in my opinion due to the numbers, thinner markers, and red-tipped seconds hand. This makes it more versatile. You should probably get it with a black dial. Sunburst blue dials offer more depth but black dials are more versatile so you can wear it with more stuff and pair it with more straps. Putting a new strap on a watch is the best way to liven it up. A 20 dollar leather strap can instantly make a dive watch look both more casual and more dressy. Some people will say having a leather strap on a dive watch is dumb but no one cares anymore since 1% of people who wear dive watches actually dives.

[Anonymous No.15094746]

>>15094728
>I don't understand though, regarding the Daytona. Why don't you buy secondhand?

Any Daytona that doesn't look like shit is 20-30k second hand. The Ceramic "Le panda" and black dialed daytona." are $12500 at an AD IIRC.

[Anonymous No.15094750]

>>15094728
Forgot, it doesn't need to be 1:1 I'd take any repoduction of it.

[Anonymous No.15094751]

>>15094661
>Dude all those photos of those people look so fa and have cool ass watches. Compared to this thread that website is everything you guys want to be
Well yeah, that's literally how capitalism works? You buy the shit the people you want to be like have.

[Anonymous No.15094758]

>>15094746
Hmm...is it possible to buy one at one of those airport dealers? Occasionally you'll find them in the windows...and if you frequent places like London Heathrow you'll see them multiply before your very eyes. Anyway, I can't stand the new subdial arrangement. Once you see, you can't unsee.

>>15094750
I can't be sure if I would as well. It would have to be 1:1, no compromise. Anything less would be...well...a little odd. I've thought seriously about getting one of the Fortis' that uses the same movement and facial configuration, just to see how it works and how it feels. Far less than the 25g that a normal grail would be on the open market right now...

>pic obviously unrelated.

[Anonymous No.15094765]

>>15094482
That’s why wt got banished from g . Fashion in general is consumerist, and you only talk about buying watches in this general consumption. Watches are made to be bought .

[Anonymous No.15094775]

>>15094636
>snobbish attitude on watches. It's a God damn watch! An accessory that most people don't give a damn about!! This "pleb" thing is so dumb
>You guys must really think you're better than others cause you have a watch that no one knows about.
Lol watch people (the users who bump this thread) only care about mindless consumption they only care about buying the next watch and impressing others with their vanity . That’s why they got kicked out of /G/ they do belong here because they don’t care about technology lol I see it now. Their thread description is nothing but a ruse

[Anonymous No.15094785]

>>15094765
If watches were about practicality most of the discussion would be about quartz

[Anonymous No.15094788]

Hello bros, If I wanted to buy a vintage Seiko from Ebay like this one

(This one gonna end in some hours)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-SEIKO-Automatic-Watch-LORD-MATIC-LM-5606-7000-25J-SS-1970/402167236019?hash=item5da30905b3:g:p84AAOSwO6xecLJg

Or this one

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-SEIKO-Quartz-Watch-TYPE-7123-7070-SS-1979-Original-Band/274313751874?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D77b1599486a64a1c8c7d59f222dc4207%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D11%26mehot%3Dnone%26sd%3D274313751874%26itm%3D274313751874%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3Aae4c53ac-6c07-11ea-9411-0e4baf4fb02f%7Cparentrq%3A00f671f01710aaeee6038301ffd2cb8d%7Ciid%3A1

I've read that I have to place the bid in the last seconds, that's a bit depressing but how much do you think one should bid for those? I really like them.

[Anonymous No.15094792]

Also if you have a seller from Ebay to recommend I will gladly hear you

[Anonymous No.15094793]

>>15094788
>how much do you think one should bid for those?
As much as he want.

[Anonymous No.15094803]

Should i pull the trigger on a used air king? Listed at 2,200 usd.

Considering this, a used black bay or stowa flieger.

[Anonymous No.15094809]

>>15094803
If it's a BB58 get that instead

[Anonymous No.15094814]

>>15094793
What do you mean? It's an auction, just asking how much usually people bid in those at the last moment on top of their previous bid

[Anonymous No.15094818]

>>15093868
>Being able to tell the time in 24hr format at a glance
But you can’t. It’s missing the complication for it! They’re always just printed on, whith no way to tell wether it’s e.g. 3:15 or 15:15. So why bother? It just clutters up the dial, making it harder to glance without any functional benefit.

[Anonymous No.15094831]

>>15094164
That’s an ugly watch, but I love the band!

[Anonymous No.15094871]

>>15094652
thanks for that, some really bizarre and amazing stuff

[Anonymous No.15094877]

>>15094652
>https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/street-style-baselworld-2019
Holy shit. that's a goldmine!
Fuck, I don't even want to know how much the shitty richard mille on his wrist goes for.

[Anonymous No.15094878]

>>15094877
I want that suit. And unlike him, I even got some good shoes.
Seriously dude, if you're dressing up that much, you don't fucking stop at the shoes!

[Anonymous No.15094881]

>>15094878
>Dude, can you tell me the time please, my phone broke
>Sure, which time do yo need to know?

[Anonymous No.15094882]

>>15094881
Damn, dude, you rock!

[Anonymous No.15094912]

>>15094758
Why does the dial surface under the crystal look like it's been skid across the driveway?

[Anonymous No.15094920]

so you guys buy automatic watches because of the mechanical thing but besides the fact that the mechanic thing is on the back of the watch isn't it also mostly always locked? or like can you buy some transparent case for almost all mechanical ones?

[Anonymous No.15094935]

>>15094920
Yes.
Also available with RGB LEDs, but that’s too Gaudi for me.

[Anonymous No.15094938]

>>15094145
>Speedmaster 300m
Do you mean Seamaster?

[Anonymous No.15094971]

>>15094935
Where is the quartz? Shit will fall apart on first bump

[Anonymous No.15094986]

>>15094971
Notsureiftrolling.BMP

[Anonymous No.15095053]

Lads, how many wristwatches can you wear before its no longer /fa/?

[Anonymous No.15095088]

>>15094765
Honestly, I think wristwatches, while being fashion, are in many ways anti-consumerism. I can't think of any other fashion items (save for maybe leather jackets) where one of the key selling points is "hey, this thing will last so long you can pass it on to your grandkids". Clothing follows trends, you're expected to keep buying to be in with what's popular. With watches you buy them because of an appreciation for their craftsmanship, their history, and the symbolism behind them, and for the sense of reliability that comes with buying something that you feel will last a lifetime. Smart watches are way more consumerist in that regard, they're all sold on the premise that there will be a newer model with more bells and whistles next year.

In that sense the watch hobby is a lot less fucking disgusting than many other hobbies based on buying things.

[Anonymous No.15095096]

>>15095088
Watches also follow trends

[Anonymous No.15095099]

Explain to me why I should shell out several hundred for a 40% muh heritage swiss when I could just get this sexy beast for 150 and call it a day

[Anonymous No.15095103]

>>15095099
All swiss watches are products of swiss mountain jews. Do not buy swiss watch.

[Anonymous No.15095113]

Ok, I don't think I have posted here in over a decade, but I am bored (thanks corona), so here's my little collection I've build up over the past 3-4 years.

Not included are the G-Shock, and the Omega Speedmaster Broad Arrow (with Omega for a service), will post a separate picture of it.

Thoughts/criticisms welcome, I can add details about each if there's interest.

Will follow-up with a couple dream watches.

[Anonymous No.15095122]

>>15095113
The missing speedmaster out for repair, you can see that the pusher at 4 is a protruding (ripped it out doing laundry... RIP £630...).

[Anonymous No.15095125]

>>15095122
Dreamwatch 1: Lemania milspec, unmarked. Last I saw this was £16k...

[Anonymous No.15095128]

>>15095125
And the holy grail, Rolex 4113.

[Anonymous No.15095131]

>>15095113
1.PASS
2.REDDIT
3.EXPENSIVE SWATCH
4.UNKNOWN PRE-QUARTZ SHITTER #1
5.UNKNOWN PRE-QUARTZ SHITTER #2
6.UNKNOWN PRE-QUARTZ SHITTER #3

[Anonymous No.15095133]

>>15095099
>Giving money to Ivan
Because better dead than red comrade

[Anonymous No.15095138]

>>15095131
Thanks for your cryptic thoughts.

Another grail watch: https://www.somlo.com/products/7802

[Anonymous No.15095139]

Do you know any proper brands with this style but of higher quality than this? the gears inside are fake but I like this color combination and the strap's style too but it costs more than 10 bucks and I'd rather go for a proper watch than spend that much for a toy.

[Anonymous No.15095159]

>>15094803
It's the one in pic? looks dirty as shit, I dunno whether this model is water-proof or not but I'd leave it to soak in vinegar for a day before putting it on my wrist.

[Anonymous No.15095195]

>>15095138
>>15095113
>>15095122

I always worry about the pushes on chronographs, I have passed on navi and el primero partly because of that, at least the speedy has some shouldering. Nice collection anon.

[Anonymous No.15095236]

Would you?

[Anonymous No.15095241]

>>15095236
No.

[Anonymous No.15095243]

>>15095242

[Anonymous No.15095269]

>>15095122
Thats interesting version od speedmaster you got there. Probably not the best daily beater though.

[Anonymous No.15095371]

>>15095131
>imagine leaving this place for a decade, coming back and seeing posts like this are what this place has turned into

[Anonymous No.15095396]

>>15095113
Tasteful enough, though the nato thing's a bit over done, particularly the black/white stripe on the omega. Doesn't suit that watch at all. I guess they're cheap and comfortable and washable though. Do you live in a hotter climate?

[Anonymous No.15095471]

>>15095371
Indeed, low class. I think with all the govt. sponsored socialism and rampant Marxism in higher education (not enough learning from hard knocks and graft), the average IQ or ability to interact as sociable humans has declined.

>>15095396
Thanks. I just have a soft spot for Natos :) But really, I just hadn't gotten around to getting some nice leather ones for them, they can be a bit pricey, and some of the older vintage ones have fixed lugs (I don't like the leather straps with the fold down clasps, feels less secure). I have the titanium bracelet for the seamaster and leather clasp for speedy (I don't like the speedy bracelets at all). Rolex Oyster bracelets are my favourite, but Rolex is fantastically overpriced in my view. Hence why I went for the SM 300 over the Submariner, as the former has better tech, and is probably less likely to get knicked on the street.

Here's a bit about each from left to right:
1. 1939 Omega Calibre 30. Purchase at an antique market in London, for around £400. Saw one for sale in Japan for about £2400, so reckon I did OK.
2. 1960 Omega CK1757 (bought randomly in a little village in Italy, I liked the messy patina, and it was cheap at EUR 300.
3. 2015 Seamaster 300 Co-Axial, excellent dive watch, look at and tried many different versions before settling on this.
4. Ancre - some random 1950s watch from Bulgaria I think (spur of the moment ebay find, I liked the hands).
5. c.1950s Roamer, cool little piece and cheap. Some Roamers are really gorgeous. I like the face on this one but not big on the case.
6. Stima, not any idea of date, given to me by girlfriend's step dad. Apparently his father wore it working on the Italian railway. Movement inside is made by Charles Gigandet, don't know much else about it.

Photo - some other grail watches: https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/george-daniels-watches-phillips-geneva-may-2019

[Anonymous No.15095472]

>>15094689
>I just don't see what the point is or what it will achieve.
Y-You know we are here to discuss watches, right?

[Anonymous No.15095485]

>>15094818
>no way to tell wether it’s e.g. 3:15 or 15:15
Wtf?

[Anonymous No.15095489]

>>15095236
No, they will break, metal looks poor quality.

Go to an antique market and find something. I remember walking through Lisbon and finding an old Longines pocket watch (working) for about EUR 50. Didn't buy it though.

>>15095195
p.s. Nice finds. I will get a speedy pro someday just because it's a must have. I LOVE the seconds hand, not sure why.

>>15095269
Yea, I really liked it. I settled on this as I wanted something newer (with some vintage styling), and don't like the two register ones. It may age well, or not :) According to Chrono24, I've made about £1400 in value on it since purchasing in 2016. Added pic of the caseback as it's exhibition. The piguet based 3603 movement isn't amazing, but it does the job.

Cheers

[Anonymous No.15095515]

>>15094746
Very difficult to find Rolex spots models, apart from perhaps the Milgauss at retailer new. You probably need to be friends with a dealer or wait a long time.

>>15094758
Daniels #swoon

>>15094803
It's barely going to hold its value and isn't a model I would go with. I'd save for an Explorer I if I were you. That bracelet also has alot of stretch. You should also factor in the need for service to the price you're paying, as by the looks of it, that needs a service.

>>15094716
Stunning watch, albeit I prefer no-date subs.

>>15094608
Breguet are gorgeous timepieces in my view.

New models in blue are gorgeous: https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-breguet-classique-7337-introducing

That said, the classique with applied dial and without the guilloche is my fav: https://www.breguet.com/en/timepieces/classique/7787

[Anonymous No.15095516]

>>15095485
There’s just one hand and it does point at two numbers with no way to tell which one it is. So it’s utterly useless.

[Anonymous No.15095522]

>>15095516
>no way to tell which one it is
do you spend long periods of time underground, or what? I've never once misread my watch by confusing what numerals to look at

[Anonymous No.15095594]

>>15094447
I'm lefty but wear my watch left, too, because I didn't know the "rule" when I was 16 and bought my first watch. I'm oldfag now so that's that.
nobody's ever noticed when I write in public. only watchfags know the rule and there aren't a lot of us.
so I say wear it how it's comfy for you.

[Anonymous No.15095739]

>>15095522
In fact, I have been at mines, 1000m BGL and i have lived in the Arctic in perpetual darkness for a while, so yes.
That’s what 24h watches are there for. Of course I can look at one and 99% of the time I know if it’s day or night. And 100% of the time I know what the time is in 24h format, so I don’t need a scale that tells me
>add 12, retard!
All the time. It doesn’t serve any purpose at all without a complication making use of it.
That’s like painting chrono subdails on the watch and going
>well, duh, you just know how much time elapsed, no need for hands using the chrono dials.

[Anonymous No.15095786]

>>15095739
None of that means a simple field watch shouldn't have 24hr numerals, even if you personally are perfect at converting immediately in every circumstance, which I dont believe. The extra numerals aren't there for the same purpose as a 24hr hand, they're just a quick reference to tell the time without having to convert. Not necessary, but useful, and they definitely dont make a watch more difficult to read. There's no way to explain away the fact that most analog military watches have them obviously for a reason. I'm sure there are military personnel much smarter than you who appreciate them being there. Also your analogy makes no sense because timing something can start at any point whereas the hour numerals never have to shift, with the exception of am or pm, which every human has an innate sense of at all times with few exceptions

[Anonymous No.15095790]

>>15095786
>they're just a quick reference to tell the time without having to convert
What is there to convert? It’s not a complicated mathematical operation. It’s literally just +12, something everyone is familiar with from childhood on. Or do you need a diagram on your shoes too in order to remember how to tie your shoelaces?

[Anonymous No.15095793]

>>15095790
Why are you so butthurt over something so simple that is purpose-built? You don't actually need a diving bezel either, you could just keep track of time in your head. You don't need a GMT function. The point is it makes things more convenient for some people.

[Anonymous No.15095797]

>>15095790
See above. There's really nothing more to say

[Anonymous No.15095798]

>>15095793
Exactly

[Anonymous No.15095837]

>>15095793
>Why are you so butthurt over something so simple that is purpose-built?
Because it serves no purpose. I literally have never, ever heard about anyone having issues remembering 24h times. It just makes the watch look like something straight out of special ed.

[Anonymous No.15095842]

>>15095837
It makes it more convenient to tell the 24H time at a glance, which might come in handy to someone who needs to do that multiple times a day and does not want to take an extra second to calculate it manually, you mongoloid.

[Anonymous No.15095846]

>>15095837
Why do digital watches bother to have a 24hr setting then as well? You sound like you have no experience actually dealing with 24hr format and just don't like the look of the extra numerals

[Anonymous No.15095849]

>>15095846
If we were going by pure efficiency we would all just be wearing identical quartz Movado lookalikes with no hour indices at all, just 2 stick hands with lume. Or Casio F91s with even less functions. Because none of the other stuff is actually necessary and you can do it all in your head with basic effort. There would be no chronographs because you don't need a dedicated, complex function to time and it just adds clutter to the dial.
Imagine having this kind of shit taste and poor logic.

[Anonymous No.15095852]

>>15095842
>calculate it manually
There is no calculation. That's something you know by heart. Or do you also need to think what to do with your left foot, before you step on the clutch?
>>15095846
For digital, it just makes sense to have it and it does genuinely give additional information. How useful that is, might be questionable, but it is a functional benefit.

[Anonymous No.15095860]

>>15095852
>it makes sense for digital watches to have 24H displays but not analog watches even though both are being used for the express purpose of telling 24H time at a glance

[Anonymous No.15095868]

>>15095860
You don't get it.
Analog without 24h complication but 24h dial:
>Oh, it's either 3:15 or 15:15.
>Hm, it's light, so it must be 15:15.
2 steps.
Analog without 24 dial:
>Oh, it's 3:15.
>Hm, it's light, so it must be 15:15.
2 steps.
Digital:
>Oh, it's 15:15.
1 step.
The 24 dial serves no purpose, whereas digital does.

[Anonymous No.15095872]

>>15095868
You are bitching about people not being able to instantaneously tell whether it's 3:15 or 15:15 on a 12H dial saying it proves they are brainlets if they need to take a second to add hours for military time... but you count knowing the amount of sunlight at that immediate moment as an extra step? Just fuck off, retard

[Anonymous No.15095875]

>>15095868
Well there you go, so there is a purpose. You're arguing against yourself

[Anonymous No.15095892]

>>15095875
Huh? I don't.
>>15095872
>military time
WTF is military time?
>but you count knowing the amount of sunlight at that immediate moment as an extra step?
Of course that step is so tiny that it doesn't really count at all, but in both cases, it is a needed step to figure out which time it is. And in a situation where that option is not available (e.g. arctic winter/summer) both are equally useless, so yes, it is a step, when we're talking about the usefullness of those ugly numbers.

[Anonymous No.15095915]

>>15095892
See, you wouldn't know whether they're useful or not, you're too triggered by the look. Thinking anyone who's ever worn a field watch and used those extra numerals to tell 24hr time more easily is an idiot is completely disconnected from reality. Of course it's not completely necessary, but it is useful and serves a purpose like many other things. Even if a dedicated 24hr hand could do it better, doesn't mean it's not useful

[Anonymous No.15095992]

>>15095489
Yea the speedy is a nice watch but I would only get it if you love it, idk if it would be my first watch again, I had to upgrade the clasp as it only has to micro ajustments, I wouldn't say it was a daily watch (it could be of course). If I could do it again I'd get a new seamaster or explorer first and speedy second but at the time I had to have a speedy as well so I get it.

[Anonymous No.15096038]

>>15094881
>fool, your attacks are meaningless! I control the flow of time itself! You never stood a chance!

[Anonymous No.15096042]

>>15095128
Why are the subdials asymmetrical?

[Anonymous No.15096421]

>>15096042
They aren't, it's perspective.

[Anonymous No.15096433]

>>15096421
They literally are retard.

[Anonymous No.15096573]

>>15096433
Confirmed braindead.

[Anonymous No.15096963]

>>15094881
This guy actually looks like some Silver Age comics villain