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15068029 No.15068029 [Reply] [Original]

I will admit that I don't necessarily like nappy hair, but Black people should like it? And I prefer to see a nappy haired Black woman than a Black woman with an Indian weave on her, because it looks artificial, ugly and just not good. Also from an economic perspective, Black women waste too much money on that shit, and that money will make Asians and Europeans rich, not Americans, and even less so Black Americans. We are talking about millions of millions of dollars invested each day.

Anyway Black (4a, 4b, 4c) hair general.

>> No.15068034

>implying natural hair does not need a ton of expensive products

But yeah, well-maintained natural hair is the best

>> No.15068041

>>15068034
Well I wouldn't know, I'm not Black. If you are Black you could tell me how you maintain your natural hair?

From what I understand, they use some kind of oily product (e.g shea butter or coconut oil) to dress it, and shampoo it with black soap. None of that seems that expensive, and for sure not as expensive as the weave shit.

>> No.15068078

>>15068029
>>15068034
>>15068041
"Black" hair isn't exclusively type 4 and not every black woman sinks tons of money into her hair. I guess you could argue that they put too much time and money into styling, but that really isn't exclusive to black people. Though I am of the opinion that people should try to accept their natural hair, because trying to change it is expensive, damaging and ultimately not that effective. I know there's some discrimination against natural black hair, but I don't know how pervasive that actually is, or how much is self-perpetuated.

For most people, regardless of ethnicity, hair care isn't actually all that complicated. Just wash it as needed, keep the ends trimmed, Use some oil or moisturizer, and don't strain it by overstyling. If you're using the right techniques, tools and products, it shouldn't be too difficult.
The trouble comes when you try to do unnatural things to it. Artificial straightening or curling, dye, heat treatment, tight hairstyles, extensions, whatever. Not only does all of that cost money in and of itself, but it also hurts your hair, making future care harder and more expensive too.

>> No.15068082

>>15068078
>"Black" hair isn't exclusively type 4
This thread is about type 4 hair in particular, hence why it was precised. I'm not saying Black people can't have 1, 2, or 3 type hair naturally, especially considering that Black in the West is understood in terms of one-drop rule.

>> No.15068083

>>15068078
>>15068082
And thanks for your lengthy and thoughtful response to this thread anon.

Are you Black if you don't mind me asking?

>> No.15068090

>>15068082
You did title the thread "Black hair." I know what you meant, but wanted to make the distinction because it impacts hair care quite a lot.
>>15068083
Not personally, but I've known several black people pretty closely, and I've had some experience with hair in general.

>> No.15068151

>>15068078
I think straightening is ok when you use natural products such as chebe powder. Though it won't give you the silkiest hair you can easily reach 2 type hair if you are 4 with it.

>> No.15068192

>>15068041
Hi, I'm one of the few black anons here. I have type 4c hair, which I used to wear in an afro, but now wear in dreadlocks. Generally speaking hair in the 4 category does not ever get greasy like straighter hair does. Instead it tends to be pretty dry, so we have to moisturize it. Many of us can be lazy about this, and prefer to just keep it short so we don't have to bother with it, because the more hair we have the more frustrating it is to keep it well moisturized. Coconut oil is a popular way to moisturize our hair, but some of us make our own mixtures of things like castor, jojoba, and hemp oil. I find it easier to keep my dreadlocks moisturized than it ever was when I had an afro, and I'd definitely recommend dreadlocks to just about every person with hair in the 4 category. Especially because it's pretty much how black hair is supposed to look, we've just gotten so used to keeping it very short, or covering it with weaves and wigs. A lot of black people just don't know how to love themselves or their hair, and the only fix would be a huge cultural shift. Its definitely getting better, but it will take a long time to reverse the way many blacks perceive their hair.

>> No.15068233

>>15068192
>Many of us can be lazy about this, and prefer to just keep it short so we don't have to bother with it
That's me. I don't even moisturize it well so I tend to have a lot of dandruffs even if my hair is super short.

I like dreadlocks but I wouldn't do it myself because 1) I'm lazy and don't have the time to maintain it 2) my family. My family, especially my mother, hates dreadlocks, they think it's dirty and associate it with people with mental illnesses and drug addicts. I will be ostracized or looked in contempt by my family if I have dreadlocks.

>> No.15068256

Just be white, lol.

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>>15068029


Maybe if white people didn't spend centuries telling black people their natural hair is ugly/wrong/evil, black women wouldn't be straightening their hair with chemicals or gluing other people's straight hair to their heads today.

And even if they did somehow manage to love their natural hair, they'd still face discrimination in the workplace if they tried to wear it naturally.

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>Gov. Polis Signs CROWN Act, Banning Hair Discrimination In Colorado

>Gov. Jared Polis signed a new bill Friday, banning discrimination based on hair texture, type or style. Supporters of the CROWN Act gathered at Cleo Parker Robinson Dance to celebrate the bill becoming law.

>“The CROWN Act will right a decades-long wrong: forcing people across the ethnic spectrum to make their hair look and feel a certain way to succeed,” said Representative Leslie Herod (D-Denver). “This bill is for every person who has damaged their hair with a relaxer or burnt their scalp with a hot comb, for those who have spent countless hours and dollars to conform to eurocentric beauty standards. Everyone should be their true beautiful selves, feel proud of their culture and heritage, and be celebrated for their self-expression.”

>CROWN stands for “Create a Respectful and Open World for Natural Hair.” The new law prohibits hair discrimination in education, employment, housing, and public accommodations.

>Colorado is the fourth state to pass the CROWN Act, following California, New York and New Jersey. The bill passed 42-21 in the House and 23-11 in the Senate.

https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/03/06/gov-polis-signs-crown-act-banning-hair-discrimination-in-colorado/
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I mean, for fuck sakes. It's 2020 and we're only now passing laws to ban discrimination against black people's natural hair texture and it's only been passed in 4 states so far. And look at that, it wasn't even passed unanimously. There were people (no doubt racist shitbags) who voted no.

>> No.15068303

>>15068233
Just tell them that you are going to be rasta, and that it would go against your way of life to ever bring a razor to your head. They can't talk shit if it's religious.

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>>15068281
Discrimination, conformity and peer pressure suck. It's not even necessarily racial; people just love picking at others for petty reasons, even among their own social groups. Fashion and beauty are really just another vector for power dynamics. It sucks, but that's how it's always been and how it'll most likely continue to be for quite a while, all over the modern world.

>> No.15068306

>>15068281
America is still racist, that's just how it is. Luckily I can say I've never been discriminated against because of my dreadlocks, but I haven't had them for very long, so that may change in the future. Nobody has ever cared about my afro though, nothing but compliments when I had the fro.

>> No.15068314

>>15068306
Kys nigger

>> No.15068318

>>15068314
Kys white nigger

>> No.15068491

>>15068303
>Just tell them that you are going to be rasta
This will just make things worse lol.

>> No.15068518

>>15068491
Another option is to just do whatever you want anyways. You can't let your family dictate how you live your life. As long as you aren't a degenerate drug addict, you can always have that argument if they bring it up. But in the end it's all up to you how you want to go about things.

>> No.15068680

>>15068281
Black fragility is real. Holy shit

>> No.15068688

>>15068680
Unironically the most racist of races and the most butthurt/fragile at the same time. Thank fuck I’m Asian. Where’s our affirmative action? Oh that’s right we actually work for positive things in our lives and don’t equate behaving civilized with “acting white”. Dumb motherfuckers.

>> No.15068717

>>15068318
The correct term is snownigger

>> No.15068869

>>15068680
>>15068688

>Where’s our affirmative action?


Ignorance at its finest.

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A Nigerian photograph in the 90s took those pictures. I wasn't familiar with braids dressed like that, and I liked it because it looked like it was ok for work or the office, and it was kind of elegant

Just type "Okhai Ojeikere" on google image.

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>>15068877
Nigerians also do something weird with threads but the end result is nice. Like here on the top of her head

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>>15068893
You can have a closer look here

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Last bread

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15068958

Also things you won't see in this day and age, like here with charcoal and palm-oil plaited hair :
>"Hair-dressing as a Work of Art"
>"Charcoal dust and palm oil are freely used, but should necessity arise the structure must be cut away entirely, as it cannot be 'undone'."
>From G. T. Basden (1921). "Among the Ibos of Nigeria."

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15069043

>tfw too much white DNA to have nappy hair
>my straight hair makes me look like an arab
JUST

>> No.15069052

>>15069043
Post pics of hair, I'm curious

>> No.15069127

>>15068688
asians are literally always striving to be white, you sound so insecure

>> No.15069165

>>15069127
Acting civilized is acting white. Gotcha’ - you can call me colonel sanders then! Enjoy the civil war 2.0 you sjw loons are going to bring down on us all. We know who is going to win that. Let’s see how tolerant that landscape will be once you’ve alienated every white ally.

>> No.15069175

>>15068688
>Thank fuck I'm asian
BRADU PITUUU NOOOOOOOOO

>> No.15069180

>>15068896
This is some next level black futurist cyberpunk shit

>> No.15069192

>>15068192
very eloquent
I was one of those kids who just got their head shaved routinely so no one had to deal with it. But I like having hair so I grew it out when I got old enough to stand up for myself.

>> No.15069396

>4c
>go through regular shearing cycle
>finally get the confidence for anything other than minifro and clean shaven
>maybe i'll do dreads? I'll start with a fade, never done that before
>shave fresh to start anew
>grow hair out
>noticeably thinning patch the size of my hand right on top
>uh it's fine right? A fade would hide it?
>nope, separate thinning right on the crown
>guess i'll just shave it down
It hurts, bros.

>> No.15069399

>>15068688
Don't you have an illness to die of?

>> No.15069534

>>15069399
Proving my point. Most racist of the races but biggest whiners. The future is Asian. Blacks don’t even have a past.

>> No.15069600

>>15069396
I'm so sorry to hear that anon, if only you had used your hair while you had it, then hopped on fin. Maybe hormone therapy or a hair transplant?

>>15069192
I would always wear a minifro, that sometimes became a midfro. Once I got into gaming I didn't like it anymore, because wearing headphones would leave a big dent in my afro. So I started cropping it low, shaving it off completely, or wearing a high top fade. Around the same time I was originally going into the military, so I always kept my hair within regulations. A few months before I shipped I changed my mind, and started to grow my hair out. I wasn't entirely sure what I wanted, but I always loved the dreadlocks that all my favorite reggae singers had, and decided I wanted to have something like them. I don't regret my choices, but those military benefits were nice, maybe I should have done a single term.

>> No.15069607

>>15068281
Are you a furry from viginia? Revymao?

>> No.15069678

>>15068029
I relax my hair and I don't think ill ever stop unless i buzz it off. I've gotten too comfortable with how easy it is to manage.

>> No.15069681

>>15068281
if you showed up to work like that, i'd send you home. groom yourself m8

>> No.15069683

>>15069678
also, I understand your concerns about the hair industry being run by Asians and stuff it sucks that black people get priced out of it bc they have it monopolized thats why i only go to black-owned salons to relax my hair

>> No.15070371

>>15069678
Are you a woman, anon?

>> No.15070381

>>15069681
I have noticed that white people often think about overgrown Afros like in anons pic when we say "natural hair".

Don't be a fool, natural hair just means that it's not artificial(relaxed, extensions etc...). You can wear your natural hair in many ways, some more professional than others. But like for women, I think some of the short braids from vintage Nigeria posted here for example are absolutely professional-like, with a sense of elegance even. For men, you can do all sorts of aesthetic cuts(like fades) or condition your hair to shape it as you like(make it curly with products like Cantu Shea butter) etc...

>> No.15070387

>>15069681
He just picked it out so you can see the length. That's not how he would normally wear it.

>> No.15070424

>>15069678
I don't remember making this post, so I'll agree with you.

>> No.15070650

>>15070387
I hope that's not how he normally wears it, but if I remember correctly that's his tinder profile picture

>> No.15071364

>>15070650
It's very unlikely that he normally wears it like that. Probably just being flashy for tinder. But I don't know this dude, so maybe I'm wrong.

>> No.15071373

>>15071364
You'll see him more and more if you keep lurking here

>> No.15071396

>>15071373
Oh I've been lurking for about a year. See him kinda frequently. I don't like him, but I still feel a sense of brotherhood since he is also black.