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>DO NOT POST SHITTERS IN THIS THREAD
>DO NOT DISCUSS SHITTERS IN THIS THREAD
>LUXURY WATCHES ONLY, NO SHITTERS


Guides:

> Watch essentials 102: https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV
> Purchasing used watches: https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2
> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE
> Guide for poorfag plebs: https://imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK

Should I buy this fashion brand watch?

> Scroll through this album first:
> https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

Should I buy this Sei-
>FUCK OFF

"Suggest a watch for me."
>see guide

previous thread
>>15019519

>> No.15022121

>>15022117
FUCK SOLAR

Also inb4 "but Breetling is shitter xddd"

>> No.15022178
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>>15022121
SHITTERS FUCK OFF!

>> No.15022179
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Is this watch a shitter?

>> No.15022205

>>15022179
It's a fucking shitter.

>> No.15022207

are there any watches similar to the edifice/sarb with a sapphire crystal? preferably quartz due to improved shock resistance over mechanical

>> No.15022232
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?

>> No.15022324

>>15022232
if you are old enough to drive, you are 5 years too old for a digital watch

>> No.15022335
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15022335

Hey, what’s going on in this thread?

>> No.15022358
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Thoughts on Oris?

>> No.15022449

OP failed, this thread has more shitters than the last one already.

>> No.15022461

>>15022178
>Timex
>not a shitter
lmfao

>> No.15022503

im just gonna post affordable luxury watches now

>> No.15022516
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>> No.15022523
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>>15022516

>> No.15022526
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>>15022523
Bring back the 40's

>> No.15022560
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15022560

I had my 16610 black dial Sub stolen. Looking to replace with another one or this? What do?

>> No.15022578

>>15022560
>Coke bezel
Patrician detected

>> No.15022593

>>15022560
Submariners are aimed squarely at tasteless brown people who don’t know any better. They’re the Real Madrid of watches.

The GMT Master is a much better watch, though it too doesn’t deserve its price tag. If you could actually get one at retail by some miraculous act of God, then go for it, but anyone who knows anything about how Rolex ADs behave will assume you either bought 40k worth of disgusting Cellinis and Yachtmasters to get it, or you forfeited whatever dignity you had left by sucking off the sales manager to get bumped up the waitlist. Coke > Pepsi btw.

>> No.15022632

Here you go, guys.
https://youtu.be/xSZ-TUAaRXE

>> No.15022689
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>>15022503
>affordable luxury

>> No.15022715
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15022715

hello

like this watch. what do you anons think?

https://wornandwound.com/review/le-jour-mark-001-chronograph-review/

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>>15022117
How do you identify a good mechanical watch? I'm interested in looking for a vintage one when I thrift, are there any quick and dirty indicators?

>> No.15022750

>>15022715
helo

u r a faget

lel

>> No.15022754

>>15022737
>are there any quick and dirty indicators?
manufacturer, of course, and condition are the top two indicators

>> No.15022770

>>15022560
>Sub stolen
why were you hanging around white trash and niggers wearing a Rolex anon?

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>>15022117
fuck you im posting it

>> No.15022824

>>15022179
No

>> No.15022885
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Stainless steel AW, only watch I'll ever need.

>> No.15022938

>>15022358
Don't like most of the designs but the external finishing (case, dial, bracelet, hands) is noticeably better than any of the mid-range Swatch Group brands (Tissot/Hamilton/Rado/Certina/Mido/Longines).

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WAY/WT/? Bonus points if it enrages the resident troll.

>> No.15022953
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>>15022949
For me, its the Omeeega semenmaster.

Nice basedko though. Are these solid gold, gold capped, or just colored?

>> No.15022956

>>15022953
That one is gold capped. Seiko did make a few solid gold models back in the 1960s and 1970s, but not many.

>> No.15022960
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>>15022949

>> No.15022984

>>15022593
I loved my sub. I hate how popular they are with normies though. I believe the design is perfect and I'm not sure I like the GMT bezel as much, it seems more busy.

The good news is I'm not interested in the new ones for many reasons. The primary reason is the Maxi cases are way too big for my wrists, so I will not be buying one at an AD

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>>15022949
Poor lighting but here is a shot of my timex q I picked up last week

>> No.15023036

>>15023021
Imagine actually wearing driving gloves HAHAHAHAHHAAHH

>> No.15023038

>>15023036
leather winter gloves bro, snows where I live

>> No.15023094
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>> No.15023097

>>15023021
i like generally Timex, but don't get the hype for the Q. the battery hatch is neat tho

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>> No.15023110
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>> No.15023111

>>15023097
I agree, the hype around the Q is too much. The specs are underwhelming for the price but the style is what lead me to buy it.

>> No.15023112

>>15023107
strap/watch combo game on point

>> No.15023113
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15023113

waiting for this to drop

>> No.15023114

any watches that look like the Orient Bambino, but a chronograph?

>> No.15023122
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>> No.15023128

>>15023114
>Bambino

You have to be more specific. There's like eight different variations of this meme watch.

>> No.15023143

>>15022117
after seeings Drake's working roulette wheel in a watch I wanna know where to find a watch with a little mechanical gimmick i can play with for a decent price(not 620k)

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15023336

I have to say I'm really disappointed with the quality of the posts in this thread so far.

Surely we can be better than this?

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15023344

>all the shitters ITT
Bum ass niggas can't even compete. Wouldn't know a real watch if I smacked you across the face with it on.

>> No.15023351

>>15023336
No. This is /fa/.

>> No.15023353
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>>15022984
Had it for a day to flip it. Incredible watch irl, but too chunky for me.

>> No.15023364
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>>15022715
Looks like this Seiko I recently bought.

>> No.15023371
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>>15022814
Based.

>> No.15023375

>>15023364
what's the point of all the mini clock things inside the main face? i'm not trying to bait here or anything, i just don't know anything about watches

>> No.15023382

>>15023375
It's for timing stuff, like a stopwatch.

>> No.15023388

>>15023375
It's the chronograph function, this is what they display.
>top sub-dial
1/100 & 1/10 sec
>bottom sub-dial
Minutes & hours
>left sub-dial
Running seconds. The long red centre seconds hand measures the chronograph seconds.

>> No.15023395
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15023395

whats the deal with these explorer dial oyster perpetuals? i was considering buying the blue black bay 36 but like the look of this better and dont mind paying the extra money for the rolex.

I considered buying a 36mm explorer 1 but i dont really want another black dial watch or another shitty 90s rolex bracelet.

>> No.15023396

>>15023375
The pic is from the online listing, the subdial hands all needed resetting to zero, that's why they're pointing all over the place.

>> No.15023412
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15023412

The effects of the Swatch Group on the swiss watch industry have been catastrophic for competition and growth between entry and mid tier brands. Since the buyout, once grand brands like Longines have been dumbed down to simple eta complications with no chance of competing against the mid luxury market like that of Omega and Rolex. Tissot shall forever be the entry brand, and Omega their mid luxury breadmaker. Brands have no chance of growing or improving on watchmaking and comfortably sit in a growth limbo. Etas are rampant and the competition nonexistent. Can you imagine such a scenario in the 60s? There's no identity to most swiss watches anymore since most of them answer to the same top dog. And that top dog being? Fuckind disposable plastic watches.

>> No.15023503

>>15023412
> And that top dog being? Fuckind disposable plastic watches.
which watch is this desu? casio?

>> No.15023532
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15023532

Which would you get?

Grand Seiko:
>absolute best external finishing
>movement is rather featureless, but the movement finishing of the highest quality out of the three

Lange:
>movement is the most interesting structurally

Patek:
>most illustrious brand in horology
>steel case AND quirky dial

>> No.15023534

>>15023503
Swatch, my dude.

>> No.15023535
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>>15023532
Some more info on the Grand Seiko's movement, to avoid confusion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rP_swhiEeX0

>> No.15023536
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>>15023532
>>15023535

Actually meant this Grand Seiko.

>> No.15023538
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HE FELL FOR THE GRAND SEIKO MEME

>> No.15023540
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>>15023532
I'd get an Eichi II to be honest.

>> No.15023541
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>>15023538
OH NO NO NO NO

>> No.15023542

>>15023540
The case design is a little too dainty for me.

>> No.15023544

>>15023542
It is a dress watch after all, but fair enough. The 8-day is nice, but a little too big for my taste. Not like you could really make it smaller with 3 barrels in the thing. That said there are other GS models that are made by the micro art studio if I'm not mistaken.

>> No.15023547
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>>15023544
>That said there are other GS models that are made by the micro art studio if I'm not mistaken.
Yes, pic related.
But again a little too dainty for me.

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>>15023547
Nigger what are you talking about, that case isn't "dainty". Also
>Grand Seiko
>Absolute best external finishing
Have you actually seen any of these in person or are you just out of your mind

>> No.15023563
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>>15023547
>>15023556
You're not going to buy the Patek and say "I wish it had better finishing", and the anglage doesn't count for much when the architecture is so boring. Don't get me wrong, I like GS, and they're well finished, but I don't think they should be considered on the same list at the literal best chronograph in the world and a calendar complication for the king of complications. It's like debating whether you want to live in a victorian manor or a large concrete cube because the windows are nice and the lines are sharp

>> No.15023567
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>>15023556
>Nigger what are you talking about, that case isn't "dainty".
Well it does to me.

>Have you actually seen any of these in person
Lange doesn't even finish the sides of its hands, while Grand Seiko polishes everything to perfection, even the undersides.

>> No.15023569

>>15023563
>You're not going to buy the Patek and say "I wish it had better finishing"
>and the anglage doesn't count for much when the architecture is so boring
I agree with both to an extent.

>I don't think they should be considered on the same list at the literal best chronograph in the world and a calendar complication for the king of complications
Both of these points are included in my post here: >>15023532

The Lange's chrono architecture is probably the absolute best ever, and Patek's aura is unparalleled.
But the GS does offer some counterweight with the absolute level of its internal and external finishing.

That's the conundrum pretty much.

>> No.15023575

Oh boy this shit again. This nigger would claim a 10/10 model has too sharp elbows.

>> No.15023577
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>>15023567
>while Grand Seiko polishes everything to perfection, even the undersides.
Pic related, that's the Seiko logo on the dial reflected off the back of the seconds hand, and then in turn reflected off the front of the minute hand.

>> No.15023579

>>15023575
I like watches because of a number of variables; such as movement structure, brand history/aura, level of finishing, ...

In my threeway, Lange wins movement structure, Patek wins brand history/aura, and GS wins level of finishing.
And right now I'm pretty much stuck evenly between the three.

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>>15023577
LEL

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15023581

Rate my new pickup

>> No.15023582

>>15023532
The GS easily.

>> No.15023583

>>15023580
Maybe if you made it more blurry we'd be able to see even less.
Missed opportunity, shame.

>> No.15023584

>>15023581
pure class

>> No.15023586

>>15023580
OH NO NO NO NO

>> No.15023590

>>15023567
>>15023569
You didn't answer whether you've actually seen any irl. If you're dropping this much on a watch you should 1000% go into a boutique and try them on. Like I say though, I just don't think the design of the GS can hold a candle to the other two, front or back. You need to consider the entirety of what's being offered, and slightly better finishing under magnification doesn't make up for the rest of it imo. To be honest I don't think you'd be disappointed to own any of the three however

>> No.15023591

Where could I find pictures of fits with watches?
I've always worn a watch with a silver face and metal band and I'd like to see leather bands and colorful faces and how they match clothing other than suits.

>> No.15023593
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>>15023580
>>15023586
Pathetic samefag grasping at straws

>> No.15023596
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>>15023593
Nigger

>> No.15023637
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15023637

>walk past the grand Seiko dealer in knightsbridge
>have literally never seen another person in the store other than the staff
>convinced I'm the only "customer" that's ever been inside

Why is GS such a shitty and unloved brand?

>> No.15023650

>>15023590
>You need to consider the entirety of what's being offered
Absolutely.
And I do like the overall design of that Grand Seiko a lot.
It's dressy yet robust and sporty at the same time; conservative yet modern.

By contrast, the case designs on the Lange and Patek are very traditional and unremarkable, and their attractions lie elsewhere (movement for Lange, dial and prestige for Patek).

>slightly better finishing under magnification doesn't make up for the rest of it imo
I like the three watches about equally, with each watch edging out the other two in a different area.

For GS, finishing is the area where it edges out the Lange and Patek.

>> No.15023655
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BUT GS’ EXTERNAL FINISHING BRO

>> No.15023659
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>>15023655
BRO THE EXTERNAL FINISHING BRO

>> No.15023661

>>15023532
Lange looks best.

>> No.15023662

>>15023655
>>15023659
Honestly, those super tight tolerances are shit if you like to change straps often. You're bound to fuck your watch up at some point.

>> No.15023672

>>15023662
Have you not seen how tight the end-link fitments are on Rolex’s watches? That mong thinks GS is superior.

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Remember

IT HAS GOT TO FUCKING HURT! PHECKEROOONIES

>> No.15023675

>>15023532
patek. unless you really want the chronograph

>> No.15023679

>>15023596
Obvious shop. You can go away now archietard your opinion has no value.

>> No.15023680

>>15023672
>That mong thinks GS is superior.
That mong doesn't think it, everyone knows it.

>> No.15023686

>>15023680
GS were sold at 40% off last year lmao. Yeah, so superior bro.

>> No.15023689

>>15023686
Wow what an argument.

>> No.15023694
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>>15022949
old reliable

>> No.15023704

>>15023689
Please find me a Patek, Lange or Rolex discounted 40% brand new with box & papers.

>> No.15023705

>>15023704
Why?
How will that change the finishing?

>> No.15023709

>>15023650
I wouldn't necessarily call the GS 8 day dressy or conservative when it's 43mm wide. Do you even know if it fits you? And I definitely wouldn't call the Lange or PP cases unremarkable but there you go. The Lange despite being my favourite is the most dressy of the 3 so if you want something more "robust" I'd take the Patek.

>> No.15023714

>>15023709
>I wouldn't necessarily call the GS 8 day dressy or conservative when it's 43mm wide.
It's dressy, not a dress watch.

>I definitely wouldn't call the Lange or PP cases unremarkable
They're nicely done, but very traditional and conforming.

>> No.15023720

>>15023412
Breguet and Blancpain are hopeless too
You think AP and Vacheron are kinda weak? Ok but look at Breguet and Blancpain

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>>15022949
Metal G-Shock.

>> No.15023748

>>15023581
What's that?
>>15023637
I always feel the same way about their store in Burlington Arcade kek. There's always a cloud of people surrounding David Duggan and not a single soul in Grand Seiko. However, I think they're doing the right thing for the brand in the long run imo. In 30 years zoomers won't have as much of a prior to Seiko as we do and their perception might be of a luxury brand. I was thinking about it recently that it's a continuous struggle to stay on the top. Who knows if PP,AP,VC will be the holy trinity in 50 years. It certainly hasn't been that way in the past.
>>15023650
>By contrast, the case designs on the Lange and Patek are very traditional and unremarkable, and their attractions lie elsewhere (movement for Lange, dial and prestige for Patek).
I disagree
>>15023679
Please.
>>15023705
You're yourself making a point about an aura surrounding a house. It definitely makes look GS cheap.

>> No.15023749

>>15023353
Yeah I love everything about the newer models: the lume, the clasp, the bezel. But the larger case is an absolute dealbreaker for me. Even on bigger wrists it still looks bloated.

>> No.15023754

>>15023720
>Breguet
Isn't Breguet pulling off state of the art high end watches each year?

>> No.15023756

>>15023128
any of them other than v2 and small seconds

>> No.15023757

>>15022232
>gshock casio
>not original casio

shitter

>> No.15023759

>>15023748
>I disagree
Those cases (minus small details) are basically templates for "dress watch with complication".

>You're yourself making a point about an aura surrounding a house. It definitely makes look GS cheap.
Aura is just one part of what makes a watch.
To me, Grand Seiko has an aura of vertical integration and some historical aura as well from beating the Swiss in their own observatory trials in the 60s.
Some retailer having a sale changes nothing about that.

>> No.15023762

>>15023110
mega shitter

>> No.15023765

>>15023412
More fundamentally, the Swatch Group and, simultaneously, Jean Claude Biver spearheaded the triumph of marketing driven watchmaking over product driven watchmaking.

Hayek and Biver both realized that every dollar invested in marketing would net more revenue and profit than every dollar invested in product quality, and so large portions of the costs of 'making' most mid-tier Swiss watches became marketing rather than manufacturing.

Where Hayek stands out as having been especially worse was in his ruthless dismantling of the manufacturing arms of Omega and Lemania, essentially throwing away two of the greatest series production movement designers that have ever existed and reducing Omega into just another marketing label for generically cased ETAs.

They are hailed for having 'saved' the Swiss watchmaking industry, but they did so by robbing all the mass market watchmakers of everything that would have made them worth saving.

>> No.15023766
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>None of my newer watches are gonna age so well.
What's the point anymore if watches aren't gonna patina?

>> No.15023768

>>15023532
I generally like Grand Seiko, but this is not a reasonable comparison. Sure, I'm aware you're talking about GS models that are made by the micro-artist studio, but they are still time only models being compared to *the* chronograph and a haute annual calendar.

Of the three, my head says the Datograph but my heart says the Patek. The steel case and fun design language are great.

>> No.15023771
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15023771

>no shitters allowed edition
M-m-may I post mine??

>> No.15023773

>>15023580
Moisture in the case, I'd guess. I've seen that exact pattern of spotting on hands before on other watches and it was usually prolonged slight moisture in the case that did it.

>> No.15023776

>>15023768
>The steel case and fun design language are great.
Yes, but then again I can just imagine turning over the Lange and getting lost in the deep movement architecture every single day.

>I generally like Grand Seiko, but this is not a reasonable comparison.
>they are still time only models
The complications don't really matter to me.

These are simply the three extreme high end watches that appeal to me the most. And they're not to far from each other in terms of price.

>> No.15023779
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15023779

U are a bunch of faggots, talking about fucking jew old man dress watches and movements instead of being an exclusive rolex only thread guiding newfags to acquire the cheapest two tone datejust, quartz tag heuers or chinese rolex clones baka

>> No.15023782

>>15023655
>>15023659
The only watchmaker that makes it a poitn of doing super tight end-link to case tolerances is Rolex. It's fine if you strongly prefer Rolex's approach in that respect, but don't pretend as if Grand Seiko is an outlier in that respect compared to anyone else in the industry.

And the gaps in the braelets are a deliberate design choice to give the bracelet more flexibility for comfort. Rolex chose to go the other way and eliminate as much flex as possible from their bracelets, but that decision comes with tradeoffs and its not a simple matter of one answer being better than the other.

>> No.15023783

>>15023779
With a car, you can go anywhere you want

>> No.15023784
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15023784

I'm looking to buy a vintage Cartier Tank this fall. Is the pic related the best book I can get on the topic? I'm aware of "Cartier: Gentleman's Files" by the guy from http://www.troisanneaux.com/ but it seems to be of a bit too broad and I rather want to understand differences and type of different vintage Tanks.

>> No.15023787

>>15023637
>>15023748
Grand Seiko's primary customer demographic in the west are WIS who often buy online or from smaller retailers. I know a Seiko and GS dealer who has a tiny store but does almost 100% of their business online and by phone and people only go to his store if they want to try on a specific model or to pick up their orders. Guy can't keep any of the GS he gets in stock, either.

>> No.15023790

>>15023637
It's the same for Euro brands.
There's a high-end Rolex/Omega/Breitling dealer in my town here in Europe, and I always have a look at the watches when I pass, and there is NEVER EVER EVER anyone inside.

>> No.15023792
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15023792

>>15023759
If you want a swiss btfo watch I'd get a period piece like a GQ 4843 for a couple hundred bucks and still pick up one of the other 2 haute horlogerie watches. Best of both worlds

>> No.15023800

Why is anything vintage now so expensive? Even shitty no-name dead Swiss brands are going for so much.

>> No.15023824

Curious to see if anyone takes me up on this: Rank these characteristics from most important to least important for a luxury sports/everyday watch

>style
>reliability/robustness
>accuracy
>finishing
>value retention
>functionality/complications
>movement quality/specs

>> No.15023835

>>15022715
Looks great, nice retro vibes.

>> No.15023840

>>15023824
For a "luxury" sports watch, mine goes as follows:

1 style
2 movement quality/specs
3 finishing
4 accuracy
5 functionality/complications
6 reliability/robustness
7 value retention

>> No.15023853

>>15023824
Everything equally except value retention is way down at the bottom

>> No.15023965

>>15023853
Buy some ETFs and tape a printout to your wrist
How many of you are just wealth signalling with your watches?

>> No.15023974

>>15023824
1) brand recognition

That's it.

>> No.15023985

>>15023824
Only care about style and value retention

>> No.15024003

>>15022949
what reference number is that? Ive been really into collecting vintage seiko lately.

>> No.15024005
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15024005

Look what arrived today /wt/! I finally became a proud owner of prestigious Boctok amphibia watch. Thanks for your recommendation!

>> No.15024011
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15024011

>>15024005
>made in russia
>not in CCCP

>> No.15024029

>>15023792
nice penis watch

>> No.15024060

>>15024005
Do you have thick wrists?

>> No.15024063

>>15024011
Gotta help Olga earn enough rubles to buy little Dmitry brand new PS2 or to get herself high on krokodil. CCCP versions are frankenwatches anyway (not to mention cracked dials).

>> No.15024090

>>15024060
Nah, 16.5 cm/6,4 inch

>> No.15024105
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15024105

This is probably a long shot but can anyone ID the driver's watch?

>> No.15024107

>>15024003
King Seiko 45-7001

>> No.15024108

>>15024105
Best shot of it at 0:08

>> No.15024109

>>15024011
Contemporary BOCTOKs have superior crystals. I can't point out a better acrylic crystal than that, and would quite like to hear about it if one existed.

Seriously, this shit seems to reject fingerprints. As though finger oils and shit weren't in its sphere at all.

>> No.15024113

>>15024105
>>15024108
zoomies gonna zoom zoom

>> No.15024118

Holy fucking shit. That automatic Timex Q has a fucking acrilic crystal? And they are asking $250 for them? And people are snapping them up?
Clearly there is huge demand for retro 70s style watches, why the fuck is everyone either ignoring this demand or making 44mm reissues instead of sticking to the original dimensions?
Seiko could clean up if they just rereleased a bunch of 70s seiko 5 shitters.

>> No.15024186
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15024186

>>15023532
Of the three there, it'd have to be the Lange, simply because the Seiko is too dressy and the Patek is too fussy. If we're picking anything from the three brands, though, I'm one of the (apparently) few who likes this Patek, I'm an actual pilot and the second time display is a very useful complication for me.

>> No.15024195

>>15024186
Why do Patek watches cost 80k again? Is it 100% demand and status meme? They look like hot shit

>> No.15024221

>>15023672
That's what I meant. When my semenmaster was new it was tight af, almost impossible to remove the bracelet without damaging the watch.

>> No.15024226
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15024226

breitling is one of the tackiest brands

>> No.15024231

>>15024118
What are you even complaining about?

>> No.15024240 [DELETED] 

prostatitis and social isolation

>> No.15024242

>>15024231
I want more cheap shitters. But 70s style

>> No.15024248

>>15024195
A lot of it is that there's a huge amount of skilled labor involved in making them, much of which is unnecessary from a functional perspective but it contributes to the inflated price and the status thing.

>> No.15024254

>>15022885
>only watch I'll ever need
Until Apple makes a new one and you rush to buy it.
Or until the battery dies and stops holding charge.
Or until it becomes obsolete and stops connecting to other Apple crap.

>> No.15024260

>>15024254
Apple watches are disposable. They only cost $500. You are supposed to just buy a new one every few years. Should be no problem unless you are some poorfag.

>> No.15024266

>>15024254
like the servicing scam for luxury watches is any better
muh oils muh movement

>> No.15024269

>>15024266
Yeah, this watch costs 80k, by the way you have to spend 5k getting it serviced every 2.5 years.

>> No.15024284
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>>15022117
can I get an ID on this watch
>also if anyone can ID the earbuds that would be sick

>> No.15024286

>>15022179
Nice Timex.

>> No.15024287

>>15024266
Right? Who even takes their car to get serviced, it's obviously a scam that mechanical systems in prolonged use would require cleaning and lubrication, right?

>> No.15024288

font sucks

>> No.15024295

>>15024266
Every single watch with moving parts needs servicing. This includes dogshit $5 quartz watches. The only reason people don't do it for cheap watches is because the service would cost more than the watch itself.

>> No.15024298
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15024298

>>15024287
>€7 car part costs €15 at a Skoda, €25 at VW and €75 at an Audi dealer
Yes, most "luxury" shit is a meme.

>> No.15024299

>>15023779
Is Rolex sleazecore?

>> No.15024305

>>15024299
The two tone gold and silver rollies are peak sleezecore

>> No.15024308
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15024308

What's everyone's thoughts on the Breitling Superocean Heritage II?

>> No.15024310

>>15024284
Donno about the watch but the ear monitors are TIN Audio T2 with a
"Hifi MMCX port wireless Bluetooth adapter sports cable For Shure SE215 SE535 UE900". Pretty much the best bang for your buck IEM you can buy, especially when you can combine it with a Bluetooth adapter. I prefer my QCY QS2s though.

>> No.15024323

ITT: What the third world looks and sounds and feels like.

>> No.15024329
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15024329

Got today this 60s Omega cal.600 watch for 190€

>> No.15024385
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15024385

>>15023749
Here's a shitty pic of the wg one on the wrist of its new owner. Had the idea that the blue on the bezel in this one was more of a royal blue than the darker tone of the steel one. Had that for a day as well. It's ridiculous, a big hunk of fuck you. Can't wait to get a yg daydate.

>> No.15024389

>>15024329
I like it

>> No.15024399

>>15024329
Thanks, the crystal has a few deep scratches but it runs very accurately and love the fact it’s so thin.

>> No.15024402
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15024402

>> No.15024406

>>15024329
>>15024402
I like it.

>> No.15024408

omega brand name sucks

>> No.15024416 [DELETED] 

>>15024329
< longines 30

>> No.15024426
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15024426

>> No.15024434
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15024434

>>15024329

>> No.15024451

>>15024329
Great, enjoy it

>> No.15024454

>>15024434
Igor fuck off

>> No.15024538

>>15024308
Get a Tudor instead.

>> No.15024549

>>15024329
>>15024402
>>15024426
Beautiful. Too bad getting it serviced and a new crystal would cost 4x what you paid for the watch.

>> No.15024577
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15024577

I remember misc going nuts over this watch constantly but is it fa?
u aware?

>> No.15024582

>>15022117
>Guide for poorfag plebs
Is there a guide for non poorfags?

>> No.15024590

>>15024454
what why

>> No.15024604

>>15024590
>Tripfag with trash opinions constantly making low quality posts
>"Why would anyone tell me to fuck off?"

>> No.15024607
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15024607

>>15024604
Thank you.

>> No.15024690

>>15023694
ngl that looks like utter shit

>> No.15024702

>>15023787
As a smaller retailer you need to have a physical store to maintain the dealership tier that is allowed to sell higher-end models.

>> No.15024718
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15024718

Can anyone tell me if this is real? Not a big deal if it isn't. Any help is appreciated, thank you.

>> No.15024726

>>15024718
chink practicing

>> No.15024737

>>15024726
What does that mean?

>> No.15024775
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>>15024434
Igor you should have bought picrel. Sold on leddit for 2750

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>>15024310
>Bluetooth adaptor
I've been considering this for my tinaudio t2's. What would you reccommend?

Pic unrelated

>> No.15024895
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15024895

early 90s timex ironman. iconic

>> No.15024906

>>15024895
actually wrong pic, meant the pre-Indiglo

>> No.15024916

>>15023375
When you're running the stopwatch they count minutes and hours. The small left one is the seconds hand and the big orange hand on the main dial is the stopwatch.

>> No.15025057

>>15023824
Style
functionality/complications
movement quality specs (same rank as below i think)
finishing
value retention
reliability
accuracy (are any luxury watches that much more unnaccurate?)

>> No.15025059
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15025059

>>15023375
The dials are so you can easily keep track of how many women you've had sex with. Every time you shoot your load inside one you use the pusher to advance the counter by one.

>> No.15025143

>>15022117
daily reminder that you could take multiple vacations and create actual memories with your money instead of blowing it on an overpriced watch and look like a douche in the process

>> No.15025145
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15025145

>>15022560
Ok I just bought the Coke GMT. Mint with box and papers. Will be here tomorrow morning

>> No.15025173

Tisell or Hamilton?

>> No.15025179

>>15025173
Casio

>> No.15025200

>>15025145
5/5 bretty gud

>> No.15025209

no

>> No.15025231

>just ordered a $500 Timex
idgaf

>> No.15025382

>>15022324
This is the sort of thing someone with a beard who doesn't know how to use a chainsaw, how to sail, or how to butcher meat would say. Tools fit their use, a gshock fits certain uses far better than any mechanical.

>> No.15025398

>>15023395
>explorer dial oyster perpetuals
Do it if you like the hands. That's pretty much it. 36mm is excellent.

>> No.15025428

>>15025231
American Documents?

>> No.15025469
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15025469

Who /skykang/ here?

>> No.15025483
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15025483

Hey guys. thanks for your advice from before. i opened my watch it was extremely easy what kind of battery is this?

>> No.15025484

>>15025483
evidently it is called sr920sw. im retarded

>> No.15025491
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15025491

Breitling lume before the 1970s was yellow because of the radium

>> No.15025496

>archietard tries to highjack general
>it becomes dead because it's just boring repeated shit from his retard eceleb

lmao

>> No.15025503

>>15025491
But radium lume was no longer used since the 60s? Unless you're just talking about one from the early 60s.

>> No.15025511
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15025511

tell me why not to get the one on the left. ive been looking at the others but i like the left one best

>> No.15025516

>>15025511
get what you like man, dont make others make a decision for you that you will end up regretting

>> No.15025547

>>15025516
ok I got the one on the left but I think ill pass on the milanese band

>> No.15025555

>>15025547
i agree, it looks much better with the standard band

>> No.15025679
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15025679

Choose wisely

>> No.15025680
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15025680

>>15025679
.

>> No.15025685

>>15024577
that takes me back brah...

>> No.15025690

>>15024582
Post budget pleb

>> No.15025693

>>15025679
>>15025680
Can someone finally explain why having atomic time is bad in a watch, why is this "wireless connectivity" bad in any way, what does it do?

>> No.15025696

>>15025693
having atomic time in a watch is not bad. the people telling you they're bad are schizos paranoid about the government giving 2 shits about them, thats literally it. well, aside from the cost but atomic time bundled with solar is a great thing to have on watch if you plan on keeping that watch forever.

>> No.15025709
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15025709

Pro tip: If your watch brand isn't indipendent or th parent company you're paying for fake prestige.

>> No.15025723

>>15025143
Reminder that not everyone is as poor as you and can afford to do both.

>> No.15025730

>>15025696
>the people telling you they're bad are schizos paranoid about the government giving 2 shits about them, thats literally it.
Can you really track a receiver like that?

>> No.15025733
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15025733

$200-300
39mm or less
Automatic
Sapphire crystal
Optional: Gold plated/tones

What watch?

>> No.15025752

>>15025484
>im retarded
Seems like it, yeah.

>> No.15025780
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>>15025733
Good god that looks horrendous. Really, it's shit like this that proves that Tudor is making ugly Rolex ripoffs for the sake of not canibalising the main brand sales. It just looks so wrong. You can't convince me it doesn't look like a mumbai special.

>> No.15025789

>>15025685
did we make it brah?

>> No.15025794

>>15025730
Please respond.

>> No.15025800

>>15022117
>>DO NOT POST SHITTERS IN THIS THREAD
>>DO NOT DISCUSS SHITTERS IN THIS THREAD
>>LUXURY WATCHES ONLY, NO SHITTERS
wtf are you talking about
all luxury watches are ugly analog crap

>> No.15025801

>>15025179
Neck your self.

>> No.15025803

>>15025789
honestly brah, im better than i was but i still got work to do. looking pretty joocy lately tho. you?

>> No.15025804
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15025804

which one?

>> No.15025808

Here it is, guys.
https://youtu.be/5EVDEO94FYo

>> No.15025812

>>15025696
>the people telling you they're bad are schizos paranoid about the government giving 2 shits about them
This has nothing to do with "privacy". No one ever said that. I don't want radio communications in my watch simply because I *enjoy* using a device that isn't connected to anything. That's it. Feels like a breath of fresh air after all of the modern "smart" crap.

You're in a fucking watch thread. Everything here is a matter of personal preference.

>if you plan on keeping that watch forever
Daily reminder that there are no watches that will "last forever" without service, solar watches also have a battery that will die.

>> No.15025848

>>15025812
>>This has nothing to do with "privacy". No one ever said that. I don't want radio communications in my watch simply because I *enjoy* using a device that isn't connected to anything.
Is it possible to track your location and other info if you wear a G-Shock with atomic time though?

>> No.15025870

>>15025848
No. The only data recorded is a very loose information about when was the time updatedand the strenght of the signal received.

>> No.15025877

>>15025804
padek but id take the lange posted in this thread above just about anything

>> No.15025880

>>15025870
>No. The only data recorded is a very loose information about when was the time updatedand the strenght of the signal received.
What the fuck, where is this recorded, in the watch?

>> No.15025899
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15025899

Thinking about purchasing one of these junghans chronoscopes. Anyone suggest better alternatives around 2k or less?

>> No.15025910

>>15025804
Vashy, because red sky you never see anywhere and for legibility and economy of eye movement (with the extra hands on patek your eyes have to dance around the dial more to get all the data).
Fuck off Patek with
>muh handprainted dial
bullshit no one cares about or likes. I want precision not the some faggot's shakey hands and a brush. Lastly, only Germans keep track of weeks like that and since I'm not Hans the Cuckolded or Helmut, Mustafa's Butt-toy, it's totally useless and just superfluous clutter. Only thing with the VC is that side on the case looks weird; Michelin Man's dress watch.

>> No.15025912

>>15023784
Any Cartier anon to help me? How to learn about vintages?

>> No.15025921
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15025921

>>15025899
Why would you choose that over the max bill chrono?

>> No.15025932

>>15025921
Bauhaus and cluttered chronographs don't mix well.

>> No.15025946

>>15025143
What if I'm a depressed piece of shit who doesn't want to go anywhere?

>> No.15025949

>>15025730
No. The watch reads signals and doesn't give them out. Also, ignore that one retard.

>> No.15025981
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15025981

Nautilus with moonphase/date, power reserve, and sub-seconds. Any idea how much this thing would cost? Spotted randomly walking down the street in Italy.

>> No.15025989
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15025989

Which of these is your favourite panda dial racing chrono?
>One of the first auto chronos
>Y shape crown/pusher arrangement is cool
>Slightly boring hands and indices

>> No.15025992

>>15025981
Wild guess, 100k€.

>> No.15025993
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>>15025989
>Cooler handset
>Splash of red looks amazing
>Nice lugs
>Technologically and historically less interesting

>> No.15026011

>>15025981
65k

>> No.15026014

Real talk now. What percentage of the annual income one can spend at most on a watch to don't LARP for being richer than one actually is. I was thinking of a 1-2 months worth of salary.

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>>15025989
>>15025993
>virgin chrono
>CHAD ST19

>> No.15026030

>>15026014
1% of your pretax annual at most
you make $50k? enjoy a nice Seiko
make money in the millions? ok look at 5 figure pieces if you want

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>>15026023
Already got the black one

>> No.15026058

>>15024005
They changed the bezel for you? How much in total?

>> No.15026062

>>15026030
Calibration question: how much of your income would you spend on a car and a house?

>> No.15026071

Watch always seems to have way less mainspring power than I think it should, even if I've worn it all day it still stops on it's own while I'm sleeping. Is this a problem that can be fixed by servicing? What could be the issue?

>> No.15026088

>>15025880
Yes, the watch doesn't transmit, it just recieves radio waves

>> No.15026090

>>15025709
I mean, you need a little more nuance than that. Richement seems to keep their hands off of Lange, JLC and VC pretty much, and I don't think any of the three of them have pricing that is particularly out of line with the products they are selling.

Even Zenith, while most of their range is pretty damn ugly, delivers a reasonable level of quality for their pricepoint.

Meanwhile Breitling is independent, but their external finishing is *horrible* for the price and most of their movements outside of their in-house chronograph are pretty meh.

>> No.15026093

>>15026062
I'd always just get a 2-3 year old Honda Civic/Fit/etc and drive it as long as possible, then repeat

For housing, I'd keep costs pretty low on that too, especially if you're single just buy a studio or one bedroom apartment. If you're not retarded your stock portfolio should outperform most real estate. If you're having a family ofc have a bedroom for each kid/anticipated kid

>> No.15026097

>>15025989
>>15025993
Which movements are in each of them?

>> No.15026101

>>15026071
>Is this a problem that can be fixed by servicing?
Yes.
>What could be the issue?
Mainsprings can weaken over time from repeated winding and unwinding, plus the aging of internal lubricants and cause the drivetrain to consume more power than if it was clean and freshly lubricated.

>> No.15026109

>>15026093
Just in case I'm completely fine with your estimates anon. Just curious. Could you put pretax percentages of your annual income these are for you?

>> No.15026114

>>15025709
>>15026090
How would you rate these big parent organizations anons? I feel like watches from Richemont group are still having lots of freedom and are of good quality. Swatch group on the other hand is diving deep on the head. I would say Fossil < Kering < Citizen < swatch < LVHM < Richemont.

>> No.15026117

>>15026088
>Yes, the watch doesn't transmit, it just recieves radio waves
But does it record the updates forever? Where? Can this be extracted from it?

And I'm not sure that you can't track a receiver, the internet says that since a receiver amplifies the signal internally, it can be tracked.

>> No.15026118

>>15026101
Ok. On a side note, I was told that mechanical watches are better because they last forever and the same parts stay forever (why would anyone care about that?). This clearly isn't true.

>> No.15026121

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhlhyAOpPkI

Is Longines really a respectable brand? "Affordable" luxury sounds like poorfag shit to me, but the watches are pretty nice looking.

>> No.15026124

>>15026118
It is mostly true though. The vast majority of the parts in a mechanical watch only require periodic cleaning and re-lubrication. Mainsprings are commonly replaced at service, but don't always necessarily have to be. In vintage watches mainsprings can be kept if they still deliver good power.

>> No.15026126

>>15025733
>No serious replies

Help me you nerds.

>> No.15026129

>>15026109
I'm making 70K Canadian, car is probably worth like 7 or 8K, mortgage payment is a little under 1k a month

That percentages logic I used for watches isn't what I would do personally it's what I'd suggest to people who want expensive grail watches, at least be rich first. I'd get an old Speedy or Rolex on the cheap side and top out there even if I made millions in income or got a huge windwall

>> No.15026130

>>15026121
>Is Longines really a respectable brand?
They used to be, then they turned shit for a while. They seem to be turning things around recently though with some excellent vintage reissues. The legend diver, big eye chrono, flagship, and the new sector dial and RAF pilot models are actually pretty based

>> No.15026131

>>15026121
Their external finishing is roughtly in the same tier as Tissot/Hamilton/Mido/Certina/Rado and their movements no longer have the specialness of using true ETA 2892-A2s in them anymore, since they've switched to the Powermatic style escapement.

If you go compare them in person to, say, Oris, you may be able to notice how cheap the external finishing on the Longines watches will look by comparison.

>> No.15026133

>>15026124
The mainspring is basically a battery and you just said they sometimes have to be replaced.

>> No.15026134

>>15026126
>Affordable
>Good looking
>Mechanical
Pick two

>> No.15026136

>>15026121
at least Longines has history

>> No.15026139

>>15026133
It's not the need to replace batteries that marks most quartz movements as not being able to last forever, it's that most quartz movements are entirely unserviceable and the moving parts will eventually wear themselves out. When that happens the whole movement has to be replaced because it cannot be serviced.

There are serviceable quartz movements with all metal construction and jeweled bearings, but they are very rare and convined to relatively expensive high accuracy quartz watches.

>> No.15026142

>>15026136
>at least Longines has history
The Longines that had history died in the quartz crisis. When the Swatch Group was formed, they fired the movement design, movement manufacturing and watch manufacturing divisions off Longines, Omega, Lemania, Tissot, etc. and turned all those brands into designs and names affixed to models produced by a single design and manufacturing chain for Tissot/Hamilton/Mido/Certina/Rado/Longines/Omega.

>> No.15026143

>>15025733
Sticky

>> No.15026155

>>15026129
I see, I misunderstood you then because of what you said about Seiko (I agree with you on this one though, too - 1-2mo worth of salary of a $50k pretax job can get you pretty much a Seiko). I feel the same with grail watches. In grand scheme of things collecting watches is not a super expensive hobby like exotic cars of collecting art. You can eventually get yourself a high end Patek/ALS/VC by saving long enough in a middle class job. That's why I asked this question. I also share the sentiment that these watches should be worn by someone with appropriate income and lifestyle. Do you drive in your Aston Martin for vacations on your yacht in Saint Jean Cap Ferrat in summer, ski in St Moriz/Gstaad in winter and recently bought Jeff Koons off an auction in Christie's for your apartment in Chelsea, NY? Fine, this Nautilus with complications will look appropriate on your wrist. Do you work in IT making decent money but still book flights 2mos in advance looking for best deals and pay off your mortgage? Get yourself a solid Rollie but this Patek will look out of place imo as you don't really live a luxury lifestyle. That's why I wanted to ask people in this thread for estimations of what is appropriate percentage of income to spend on a watch.

>> No.15026167

>>15026117
Jewish high council uses it to track what midget porn you jerk of to in your mothers basement.

>> No.15026174

>>15026126
Parnis datejust hommage- president line. 100 bucks on aliexpress. Sapphire, miyota automatic movement and can be had in gold or two tone. You wont get a better deal in under 300 bucks because major brands wont give you sapphire and microbrands mostly do steel divers.

>> No.15026176

>>15026174
I can't bring myself to wear an homage.

>> No.15026186

>>15025680
Did you buy it yet?

>> No.15026187

>>15026167
I'm serious, why is there no info about this?

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>>15022949
My Zelos Singapore shitter. I kind of wish I got the frost one with the full lumed dial, but this teal dial is fantastic as well.

>> No.15026199

>>15026155
Watches are a dumb hobby at the end of the day and it's important to get away from our bubble sometimes

A middle class guy saving to get a super high end watch and putting a large (2 digit percentage) of his net worth into it is absolutely retarded, it's no different than if it was Pokemon cards or Star Wars toys or something. Personally I like being able to throw around my watches and not baby them, wear them in heavy rain despite poor WR and not caring about moisture getting in, etc. I can't have that peace of mind with a luxury watch

The worst possible luxury consumer to me is some completely un-/fa/ schmuck with a jacked up face, possibly fat, etc who absolutely no one would admire for having nice things but he gets them anyway to LARP and indulge delusions. You and I could have the same watch and same money but if I come off as a loser and you're cool they'll think "what is this guy compensating for?" when they see my watch and "wow this guy knows how to treat himself" when they see yours. Simple halo effect

>> No.15026201

>>15026117
It keeps the last known update on my pro trek. That is a sync and all it does is shift the time over a bit.

If you're really that paranoid check installgentoo wiki about software defined radio and see for yourself.

>> No.15026202

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGCDczgW91c

How does this disgusting manchild have all this money and such a position in the world and a wife and everything when I can't even afford a Speedy :(

>> No.15026219

>>15026155
The way I look at it is that money for watches should never be money that is valuable to you unless you're genuinely using it as a tool (which next to nobody is in the era of smart watches and solar/quartz). What percentage of your income is "right for you" isn't something so easily prescribed because people have all sorts of different priorities and expenses. A 50k/yr single guy living in an inherited house and no car payment is going to have much more "doesn't matter" money than someone making $150k/yr with a wife and 4 kids and an expensive house and car payment. I generally don't believe people should be looking at watches as an "investment" even watches that resell well like steel sports Rolex' and the Royal Oak/Nautilus. It's not even an "investment in yourself" really, so much as it is a hobby which allows people to exercise their autism which would have otherwise been channeled into some other task.

I love my watches and have spent probably more of my limited wealth than I should have on them, but anyone who is trying to justify the way they spend money on watches to someone else probably doesn't actually have the money to spend on it. Basically if you need to really think about it, it's probably beyond your reach and you shouldn't do it. Having some piece of consumerism that you can flex isn't worth needing to ration areas of your life that should be more important.

>> No.15026226

>>15026155
>>15026199
>>15026219
based

>> No.15026229

Why are Patek Philippe so expensive?

>> No.15026240

>>15026219
>>I love my watches and have spent probably more of my limited wealth than I should have on them,
How much?
>to ration areas of your life that should be more important.
Like what? If you're poor you're poor, it won't change, might as well wear a nice watch and be happy.

>> No.15026241

>>15026229
Because they're hand polished by Archie Luxury's knob.

>> No.15026256

>>15026240
you'd probably be happier buying things that give you active fun time or increasing your food/going out budget not some jewelry piece to stare at passively sometimes

>> No.15026275

Where's the best place to sell your used watches globally?

Ebay takes too much of a cut.

>> No.15026291

>>15026256
Like what specifically?

>> No.15026301
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My Omega Aqua Terra Big Size 2502.50 from 2006.
Gorgeous classic and versatile timepiece.

>> No.15026317

>>15026195
You the guy who bought this as a gym beater watch?

>> No.15026325

>>15026186
no lol, i just keep posting it to try and convince myself further

>> No.15026329

>>15026291
Book an exotic holiday you will enjoy and then fondly remember for years to come. Buy a good bike and spend some active time outdoors to give you endorfine boost. Upgrade your going out budget and go on some dates, you might get laid which is always nice.

If you´re on a tight budget, throwing away your disposable money on a watch influencers and social media convinced you to buy is kinda sad.

There is so much more to life than sitting in front of computer jerking it to the overpriced jewelry, feeling like a big boy for a few fleeting moments. Enjoy your shitters and invest money in things which improve your life.

>> No.15026331

>>15026186
As one of the people who asked about it last thread, I decided not to

>> No.15026341

>>15022814
Based komandierskie poster

>> No.15026346

>>15026329
memories fade. a watch is forever

>> No.15026348

>>15026229
Because you never really own it, you just merely look after it for the next generation.

>> No.15026356

>>15026348
Audible kek

>> No.15026358

>>15026348
That marketing spiel is cringe and insulting as fuck. What were they thinking.

>> No.15026360

>>15026329
>>Book an exotic holiday you will enjoy and then fondly remember for years to come.
You can literally see every country in the world now on google maps, what is the point of this? What will I remember fondly, the blowjob from some third world hooker that got me HPV? The scam some Indian taxi driver pulled on me? Is this Archieposting?
>Upgrade your going out budget and go on some dates, you might get laid which is always nice.
You're literally one of those, holy fuck.

>> No.15026370

>>15026139
This is still kinda shitty, the watch is worth as much as the movement because it's a fashion watch with an eta 2824 slapped in.

What movement lasts the longest?

>> No.15026374

>>15026030
I knew it-- Vostok Amfibias (for about 60€ or something like that) are for poorfags making less than 500€ per month. Which is like, jobseekers' benefits in many parts of the EU.

>> No.15026379

>>15026358
But don’t you want to start a family tradition? What will your daughter think of you?

>> No.15026382

>>15026325
cringe

>> No.15026385

>>15026370
For analog, GS quartz or the movements in the Citizen Chronomaster. Otherwise just get something with an LCD display and enjoy it until the resin falls apart in a couple decades.

>> No.15026395

>>15026317
Yeah. I don't actually take it into the sauna or hot tub but I do lift wear it when I work out sometimes.

>>15026240
I wouldn't consider myself poor. I'm fairly comfortable with my means and never struggle to buy things necessary to my life and the occasional thing that is only for enjoyment (like a watch). As far as the more important things, what's the point of buying a nice explorer style watch if you don't have the money to go hike with it? There's a very large difference between being "poor" and being so wealthy that you literally don't ever need to think about the way you spend your money. I'm saying watches should be coming from the portion of your budget that you are not particularly concerned about where it is spent. That could be $500 a year or $500k a year and it's essentially the same in principle.

>> No.15026418

>>15026395
*I do wear when it when I lift/workout sometimes.
I really need some coffee.

>> No.15026421

>>15026395
>if you don't have the money to go hike with it?
LMFAO what the fuck am I reading you literally go up a hill and down the hill and you're hiking holy shit I'm dying here do Americans pay Shekelberg for a hiking license or some shit

>> No.15026429

>>15026421
No. Many Americans live very far away from pretty much anything worth hiking. For someone in Florida to go hike anything worth the time you're talking about driving/flying multiple states over, taking time off of work and probably staying in a hotel or two. If you buy a watch that is beyond your means, that could very well cut into your ability to afford that sort of thing.

>> No.15026432

>>15026360
>You can literally see every country in the world now on google maps, what is the point of this? What will I remember fondly, the blowjob from some third world hooker that got me HPV? The scam some Indian taxi driver pulled on me? Is this Archieposting?
Wow, what a sad, impoverished mind.

>> No.15026445

>>15026360
>going on vacation is the same as Google Maps
Americans are literally braindead

>> No.15026460

>>15026429
Floridians don't hike. They go to the beach or do boating.

>> No.15026461

>>15026432
What a syphilitic cumbrain.

>> No.15026477

>>15026460
You get the picture. Buying a watch is a totally worthless endeavor if you don't have money to do the things you want to while wearing it. Just because you don't have literally infinite resources to spend on luxury goods, doesn't mean you're "poor". Making a decision on what money you can reasonably count as discarded and the using that to buy something you'll be happy with is much better than dumping your entire savings into a Patek that lives in a glass case in your living room and saying dumb shit like "looking at places on Google maps is the same thing as traveling" as a coping mechanism for your poor decision-making.

>> No.15026482

>>15026461
Wanting to see the world means you're a syphilitic cum brain? I know this is a meme but have to ever considered actually going outside for once in your life? There's plenty more to do while traveling than just fucking STD infested hookers.

>> No.15026492

>>15026477
I agree that watches aren't shit. But you must be some brain addled instagram woman if you think traveling is so magical and enriching.

I've lived in 6 different cities and been through Europe and Asia. It's all the same fucking shit. Looking at that mountain or yet another dusty historical building won't change your life anymore than a blingy wristwatch would.

>> No.15026514

>>15026492
I don't mean this in a negative way or anything, but are you literally autistic?

>> No.15026544

>>15026492
Not the anon you're responding to but I'll chime in. I think the fact that you don't have any good friends or actual hobbies may have something to do with it. Building upon your reasoning; what's the point of owning a watch if you can just watch WatchFinder guy videos on youtube?

>> No.15026560

>>15026492
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ilyapozin/2016/03/03/the-secret-to-happiness-spend-money-on-experiences-not-things/#260ed27339a6

>> No.15026561

For me, it’s not so much the actual purchasing price. You can save up to buy a Patek or a Royal Oak, but will you also have to save up for a few months to afford to have it serviced?
For me, that’s where I draw the line regarding what I want to buy.

>> No.15026564

>>15026482
Like what? Be specific.

>> No.15026576

>>15026564
Experiencing different cultures enriches your life and soul in an unspecific way, like reading a great novel. Don’t bother replying because your mind is too small to truly understand.

>> No.15026602

http://www.onthedash.com/spotted-chief-justice-roberts-pp-ref-5205g/
where is your god now libtards?

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>>15022117
Vostok good

>> No.15026614

>>15026576
Is your favorite book Eat pray love? Are you actually a basic bitch?

>> No.15026624

why do you hate Seiko?
I am not a /fa/g so i don't know.

>> No.15026649

>>15026624
It's just one swiss shill. People who appreciate horology on all levels know how fucking based Seikosha is whether it's delivering on value like Seiko5 or unique midranges like Presage or haute horologie like GS and Credor.

>> No.15026662

>>15026564
I mean, in my particular case I like seeing beautiful architecture and natural settings. Most of the time my wife and I travel, we go to see the old churches and temples and try to day hike a few smaller mountains/waterfall trails etc. I find it inspiring to look at the architectural achievements of the past in comparison to the bleak and sterile metropolitan cities that are present in wealthier parts of the West.

>> No.15026701

>>15026649
Meh. The Seiko 5 has a value as the cheapest actually reliable automatic watch, but aside from that, with the discontinuation of the sarb line, the replacement with a lot of traditional 6R movements with 4R movements and the move to take 6R up the price bracket, the 7750 competitors that come in over 1k USD, the 9F movements that can't stand up to the citizen A060 (independent hour hand, 10spy vs 5, eco drive, etc), and the run to higher prices limited editions in the 9R and 9S space, seiko's value proposition has gotten a lot weaker in the last decade.

>> No.15026723

NEW THREAD FUCKAROONIS

>>15026702
>>15026702
>>15026702

>> No.15026726

>>15026492
Based

>> No.15026728

>>15026662
Ok, so literally stuff you can see in videos, gotcha. Btw you live in a shit country, everyone in a civilized country has all that shit in walking distance, it's really funny to us that this is somehow a spiritual fucking experience to you.

>> No.15026821

>>15026728
You can see other people wearing watches in videos as well, yet somehow people in this thread tend to be drawn to want to experience the real thing.

>> No.15026864

>>15026360
>You can literally see every country in the world now on google maps, what is the point of this?
Go to Japan. See Kyoto. Stay at a ryokan or some such high-end westerner-friendly thing.

Go to eastern europe. See Prague. Get falling over drunk on cheap vodka and stagger back into your top-end tourist hotel.

Get an imagination. See an iconic tourist-friendly (even internally to the country) city. Participate in the mildly hackneyed local flavour of tourist shite.

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>>15022560
>>15025145

>> No.15027343

>>15026864
not him and i agree with you but people spend a bunch of money on other shit. some people here spend shit tons on clothes that last then a year. some people buy really nice cars or wine and shit. i agree that you should get sucked into spending all your money on watches but a decent watch (500-1000) isnt that much and the grand scheme of things, and going full circle, a lot of watch autists tend to associate shit theyve done with the watch they were doing it with so it become a bit of a talisman. definately about balance and eleiminating redundant shit in your life

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>>15026564
Rent a motorbike and ride towards that mountain you saw on your way to the place you'r staying at, only to find a waterfall with no other people and no plastic trash anywhere. Get back down the trail from the waterfall and the guy that just opened his fruitstand sees you need some energy and gives you a banana.
Go for a swim in the morning and when you come back the fisherman that lives by the beach asks you to come sit with him to have a coffee and a cigarette, you end up talking for two hours about life and you both get some interesting new perspectives on life.
Ask that cutie walking by to have lunch with you and end up travelling with her for a while.
Take up on your guide's offer to chill in his village, where you swim in the river with the locals and have a great dinner with his family.
Or you could just buy your watch and go on Google to experience all this stuff.

>> No.15028328

Reading about the history of Rolex is there honestly any reason to hate on their watches? I am completetly new to the watch autism.