/wt/ - Watch Thread: Breetling Edition

[Anonymous No.15019519]

Guides:

> Watch essentials 102: https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV
> Purchasing used watches: https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2
> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE
> Guide for poorfag plebs: https://imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK

Should I buy this fashion brand watch?

> Scroll through this album first:
> https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

Should I buy this Seiko watch?
>no

"Suggest a watch for me."
>see guide

previous thread >>15016036

[Anonymous No.15019523]

>>15019519
First for FUCK Seiko.

[Anonymous No.15019533]

Give me your

>beater shit
>chrono/diver shit
>dress shit

Go

[Anonymous No.15019538]

>>15019523
no u

[Anonymous No.15019539]

>>15019533
why would i give a stranger on a anonymous Chinese mask manufacturing forum my watches?

[Anonymous No.15019542]

>>15019533
>speedmaster
>superocean heritage ii
>superocean heritage ii

[Anonymous No.15019546]

>>15019538
why doesn't the Monster get shilled as much as the Turtle, Tuna or SKX?

[Anonymous No.15019548]

>>15019519
Reminder: Breitling's literally have AliExpress tier external finishing.

They just hit absolutely fuckign everything with a buffind wheel with polishing compound until the lozenge the SHIT out of it and the distorted reflections off every surface entrance clueless mall dad boomers into giving away thousands of dollars for them.

[Anonymous No.15019552]

>>15019533
>casio f91
>casio duro
>casio a158

[Anonymous No.15019553]

Is there any good site for researching vintage Shiteling chronographs? Heuer guys have onthedash.com , Speedmaster sois have speedmaster101.com. But what about Breitlings? Especially non-Navitimer chronos.

[Anonymous No.15019564]

>>15019533
Currently
>alpinist
>hked 1963
>vintage seamaster

Don't actually own a diver atm

[Anonymous No.15019569]

>>15019553
Buy a top time and fuck off

[Anonymous No.15019572]

>>15019553
I mean, is googling the model name or code and the movement code not turning anything up?

[Anonymous No.15019573]

[Anonymous No.15019577]

@15019548
seething

[Anonymous No.15019582]

>>15019573
Love the vintage field watch aesthetic. Anyone know of any other square case field watches like this eterna?

[Anonymous No.15019584]

How do the dials on some vintage watches get so fucked up? I'm having a hard time understanding how they get covered with scratches or get huge blotches of discoloration. I'm guessing lots of it is water damage but how the hell does a dial get scratched up while it's under glass?

[Anonymous No.15019591]

>>15019584
light damage is a thing

[Anonymous No.15019600]

why aren't metal stretch bands used anymore

[Anonymous No.15019604]

>>15019591
What caused the damage next to 9 on the face of this?

[Anonymous No.15019609]

>>15019604
Water

[Anonymous No.15019615]

>>15019600
Most mobsters are dead now and their grail stolen.

[Anonymous No.15019631]

>>15019505
It really depends on whether you want to pay for multi band 6, which is radio time

[Anonymous No.15019652]

>>15019519
Guys how do I remove this battery without breaking anything?

[Anonymous No.15019658]

>>15019631
which is pretty neat along with the solar. Just give it some daylight and you can rely on it for 15+ years

[Anonymous No.15019689]

>>15019652
>buying quartz
you already fucked up

[Anonymous No.15019741]

>>15019658
Man of culture I see.

[Anonymous No.15019759]

What's with all the poorfag shit around here lately?

[Anonymous No.15019763]

Hand wind chronographs?

[Anonymous No.15019769]

>>15019759
Some us want to own watches instead of be owned by them :^)

[Anonymous No.15019777]

>>15019763
>>15019564

[Anonymous No.15019798]

>>15019553
Like the other anon say, top time are stunning, you can get pandas, reverse pandas etc, very rolex 6239 alike. And since hodinkee started shilling them recently, I can see them going up in price. I believe that vintage breitlings are going up, like what happened to vintage heuer.

[Anonymous No.15019810]

Does anyone have any strong opinions on Breetling that they'd like to share?

[Anonymous No.15019836]

> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE
That's nice but most of the producers are not available in UK without big shipping costs. Any other recommended strap brands that I could look after in UK if I'm after an alligator skin strap? It'd be great if I could close costs in £50 for a second hand one. Or should I just order a Vietnamese one?

[Anonymous No.15019882]

What's the poorfag version of this (€~1000)?

[Anonymous No.15019899]

>>15019882
Probably some Hamilton which I can't be arsed to find for you.

[Anonymous No.15019933]

>>15019548
post some pics as proof desu

[Anonymous No.15019950]

>>15019810
have you graduated your shilling from microbrands to macroshitters?

[Anonymous No.15019953]

[Anonymous No.15019962]

>>15019810
they seem alright, not my favorite brand though

[Anonymous No.15019963]

>>15019933
Reflection of my hand in the side of Breetling vs side of Boctok; edges of the reflection are clearly more defined in the watch that's 30x times the price (to the surprise of no one).

Breetlings at this price point aren't going to impress you with chamfering or brushing, but the finish of the hands and hour markers pisses all over brands like Choodah.

>>15019950
Boctok isn't a microbrand, and definetly isn't a shitter.

[Anonymous No.15019967]

>>15019533
> Tissot T-touch
> Omega Seamaster
> Oris Artelier Complication

[Anonymous No.15019970]

wtf is a shitter exactly?
> inb4 anything i don't like is a shitter

if it isn't swiss made, is it automatically a shitter?
if it isn't > 5k, is it automatically a shitter?

[Anonymous No.15019976]

>>15019970
If it isn't a genuine Russian stunner with incalculable value that your kids will be humbled to recieve when you pass, you can be guaranteed it's a fucking shitter.

[Anonymous No.15019978]

>>15019970
Just means something that has at least some (likely most) of these qualities: very overpriced compared to what you're getting, some dogshit fashion watch like michael kors/mvnt/whatever, low quality just in general, some chinkshit pretending to be swiss/european, etc. See also: https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

[Anonymous No.15019993]

Why is the automatic of the stowa chronographs more expensive than the handwind?

Also, is it better than a seiko 8R?

[Anonymous No.15020005]

>>15019978
now explain to me why alot of anons here and from outer forums as well call seiko shitters?

[Anonymous No.15020012]

>>15020005
Either being contrarians, just trying to troll, or have only had experience with their lowest end watches. It's why I don't really go by what others call a shitter but evaluate a given watch myself.

[Anonymous No.15020036]

>>15020005
Because they're fucking trash and even their $1000 watches have worse QC than a $5 Casio.

[Anonymous No.15020047]

>>15020005
There are two competing definitions of shitter which come from different types of people interested in watches. The first definition is 'anything not Swiss or German and costing at least $5,000 is a shitter' The second definition is anything that is objectively crappily made or a terrible price:quality ratio is a shitter.

The former definition is used by people who see watches as social status totems, the second by people who care about the objective material properties of the actual watch rather than the supposed social status wearing it is supposed to confer.

And Seiko used to offer many watches with a very reasonable price to quality ratio, but as they've continued to increase their prices over the last few years most of their watches are now similarly terrible values to TIssots and other overpriced 'affordable luxury' shitters in the $750 - $3,500 uncanny valley in the market.

[Anonymous No.15020063]

>>15020047
To be fair, if you care about objectivity quartz is just the best. Any reply to the contrary is just cope.

[Anonymous No.15020064]

How can I get a watch for well under fair value so I'll make money while wearing it?

[Anonymous No.15020066]

>>15020063
He's not just talking about timing accuracy, but quality of finish.

[Anonymous No.15020069]

>>15019582
That's a pretty unique case, don't know of any other watch that looks like it. They're not crazy expensive yet, relatively speaking.

[Anonymous No.15020074]

>>15020066
Then seiko still occupies everything up to grand seiko unless you narrowly define it as movement finishing, except for chapter rings on dive watches.

[None !IGORsW/P/E No.15020077]

Grand Seiko or cheap rolex?

[Anonymous No.15020080]

>>15019798
Top Time are nice, but I feel like those "surfboard" Datoras or panda Chrono-Matics are way more funky and interesting looking

[Anonymous No.15020084]

>>15020077

[None !IGORsW/P/E No.15020092]

>muh grand seiko snowflake
Why is it so hyped? I can buy it. but I don't like the way it looks.

[None !IGORsW/P/E No.15020099]

>>15020092
I honestly prefer the way some trashy shitty old $25 Seiko from India looks over the muh grand snowflake

[Anonymous No.15020102]

>tripfags
the human equivalent of shitters

[None !IGORsW/P/E No.15020104]

>>15020102
and you are the equivalent of fedora
Your style is gross

[None !IGORsW/P/E No.15020106]

clueless fedora fags

[Anonymous No.15020107]

[Anonymous No.15020108]

>new carrera LE
>it's 38.3mm in diameter and 14.5mm thick
Guess I'm just gonna keep my CS3113. It does look pretty nice at least.

[None !IGORsW/P/E No.15020110]

You are correct sir. I shit on you.

[Anonymous No.15020113]

>>15020107

[Anonymous No.15020114]

>>15020092
Me neither.
I hate watches with power reserve in the dial, is like having a fuel gauge in the windshield of a car.
The case looks like a blown up version of the oyster case, the other case that they do, the one which the lugs drop like a royal oak is much better looking.

[Anonymous No.15020115]

>>15020113

[None !IGORsW/P/E No.15020116]

>>15020115
sad but true

[Anonymous No.15020117]

>>15020115
fuck you you piece of shit dont reply to me

[Anonymous No.15020118]

>>15020115
Archie Luxury 2.0.
He needs a youtube channel.

[Anonymous No.15020120]

>>15020092
> I can buy it. but I don't like the way it looks
Then don't. I agree that the power reserve looks shit but other than that it's an attractive watch

[Anonymous No.15020121]

>>15020115

[Anonymous No.15020122]

need i even say anything?

[Anonymous No.15020124]

>>15020120
Not him, but I just wish GS would make it in <=39mm. That and maybe make it hand wind only and stick the power reserve on the back like they did with pic related.

[None !IGORsW/P/E No.15020125]

>>15020120
I don't like that thick bezel

[Anonymous No.15020128]

>>15020063
I'm talking in terms of case, bracelet, dial, hand finishing, and movement quality, accuracy, serviceability, and finishing. People find mechanical movements interesting for different reasons than quartz, so I think there's room for both in looking at quality.

>>15020074
Not really. Seiko's prices have increased 30-50% for equivalent models in the last few years. Stuff like the 6R powered Alpinist was a good value at its own pricepoint, but it's outrageously priced now. Seiko used to sell Brightz tier models with significantly better external finishing than the Alpinist for ~$600 US a few years go.

[Anonymous No.15020129]

>>15020125
No one cars what you think Mr. Gutman. You are a worthless KIKE.

[Anonymous No.15020132]

>>15020124
Completely agree. I hope those special editions without the reserve are indicative of the direction they're taking the brand.

>>15020125
It's not even thick?

[Anonymous No.15020133]

>>15020124
Forgot to mention, but being smaller & still made out of titanium with a bracelet would be nice. Almost every other snowflake dial aside from the SBGA211 isn't titanium

[Anonymous No.15020134]

>>15020125
No one cares what you think Mr. Gutman. You are a worthless KIKE.

[Anonymous No.15020135]

>>15020102
>Not instantly filtering namefags and tripfags
You have no one to blame but yourself.

[Anonymous No.15020149]

>>15019538
how's the bracelet?

[Anonymous No.15020199]

Check

[Anonymous No.15020209]

>>15020199
bruh

[Anonymous No.15020217]

>>15019652
Slide it out, maybe?

[Anonymous No.15020227]

>>15019658
You could rely on it for ~10 years without any need for solar power if it had CR2032 or other similar battery. And CR2032 is much cheaper than a rechargeable battery, and it's sold everywhere.
Solar watches are a meme.

[Anonymous No.15020261]

>>15020199

[Anonymous No.15020273]

>>15020128
>accuracy
>serviceability
There, the mechanical loses. Especially since you can get nicely finished quartz. And don't give me that crap about how you still have to oil the quartz moving parts every few decades and replace the battery, it's way less.

The main reason to buy a mechanical is as follows:
To buy a small sweeping hand if you don't like bulova, which is fair. Just know that a stop seconds was once a hard to make complication.
You like to stare at gears moving. Also fair.
You fell for the marketing memes. Falling for this makes you a dumbass no matter how much money you have.

Also, if all you want is a shiny watch the SARY cocktail watches are still as well finished as the old SARB. The movement finising is irrelevant, because neither the 6R or 4R are really decorated that nicely.

[Anonymous No.15020295]

>>15019552
this guy has it figured out

[Anonymous No.15020307]

>>15020199
Nice. My first memory of this watch is seeing it on one of my parent's friends just like that. Full of dust and paint, looking glorious.

[Anonymous No.15020308]

I like this thing

[Anonymous No.15020310]

>>15020273
I consider mechanical and quartz as separate categories it doesn't make much sense to compare to each other. There are plenty of people who find mechanical movements fascinating because you can see and understand all the processes involved in the timekeeping, and because making mechanical movements well requires considerably more effort, skill, craft and labour than quartz movements do.

My point was to evaluate the relability, accuracy, serviceability, finishing and so on of mechanical movements in watches against other mechanical watches as one aspect of their quality, not to compare mechanical movements to quartz.

>Also, if all you want is a shiny watch the SARY cocktail watches are still as well finished as the old SARB.
Those Presage models are priced well above where the SARBs used to be, and their external finishing--particulalry cases and bracelets--are resoundingly mediocre compared to price equivalent Seikos from 5 years ago. Not to mention that they have 4R movements, which even even worse than the 6R what used to be used SARB and up lines.

[Anonymous No.15020316]

>>15020308
i like your thing too, might be a little too small for my 8 inch wrists though

[Anonymous No.15020317]

OH NO NO NO NO

[Anonymous No.15020319]

>>15020308
id?

[Anonymous No.15020323]

>>15020308
The digits on that are sexy. Some of the best I have seen on a digital.

[Anonymous No.15020328]

>>15019552
F91 and A158 are the same exact watch made out of different materials. Boring.
Also, F105/A168 is a superior version of F91.

[Anonymous No.15020330]

>>15020317
Grand Seiko bends spacetime.
©2020 NASA

[Anonymous No.15020338]

>>15019810
very nice model

[Anonymous No.15020341]

>>15020328
The f-91w is a heritage design. It's like how people buy the omega astronaut chronos even though they use outdated movements.

[Anonymous No.15020343]

>>15020310
>a machine is better not because of performance, but because of how hard it is to make
Watchfags are the worst gearfags of all time.
At least you have the sense to not grasp at straws. I thought the SARY watches went for $400? That's what I saw them for at Macy's. And seiko bracelets were always crap, that's how they got the case finishing for the dollar. Do you really think people buy cheap mechanical seiko for the accuracy? It is a shame that they downgraded, but I feel that you people on the other side shouldn't care because a lot of high end watches don't advertise accuracy and don't use it for a selling point besides Zenith's wacky new movement or the spring drive. Those are the future of mechanicals and everything else is irrelevant outside of being a very nice boy toy.

[Anonymous No.15020363]

>>15020343
>Watchfags are the worst gearfags of all time.
I mean, is it really that strange to have an appreciation for the effort that goes into traditional crafts? No one would look at you strangely for preferring Amish furniture to modern stuff you can get for cheaper and that has more practical utility.

>And seiko bracelets were always crap, that's how they got the case finishing for the dollar.
Not on SARX tier, or what used to be Brightz tier, models. Seiko's upper mid-range stuff is made in a totally different production chain than their lower mid-range stuff like the old SARB line, SARY, the new Alpinists, etc.

>Do you really think people buy cheap mechanical seiko for the accuracy?
No, but worse is still worse and the 4R is definitely worse than the 6R, and the 6R was already a downgrade compared to a 2824 standard. The price and external finishing used to be a fair trade for that though. Not anymore.

>Zenith's wacky new movement
I'm quite disappointed by the struggles they've had industrializing that movement. I was hoping LVMH would be able to get them into more models by now. That movement has so much potential to shake up the market if they can start producing them in volume.

[Anonymous No.15020367]

>>15020343
Watchfags have been mad about seiko since the, 60s. They showed up out of nowhere and ate the swiss breakfast. Then they proceeded to crash the automatic market with no survivors with the quartz revolution.
That being said these 2019 seiko 5 models that are going for $250 are extremely overpriced for their quality. The wole point of cheap seikos is them being cheap.

[Anonymous No.15020407]

>>15020363
Think about how people talk about guns, cameras, computer parts, knives, car engines, and power tools. Watches is a whole different world where specs play second dog to a vague romanticism, instead of the other way around. It's kind of like fountain pens, actually.

Maybe this says more about me than it does for others, but mechanical watches are just toys to me. I like toys as much as anyone else might, but somehow other watch people seem odd to me. I like the unitas movements and even the sistem 51, mostly for their simplicity. But everyone thumbs their nose at them. For the swatch it makes sense because of serviceability. But for the unitas movements you ask why they don't care and it's just a longer version of that stupid "soul vs soulless" thing going on, which looks kind of like the green text in
>>15020343


I do wonder why Zenith has been dragging their heels.

[Anonymous No.15020409]

>>15020367
Wait, what? Why would anyone pay $250 for a seiko 5? Did I miss something?

[Anonymous No.15020418]

fuck off with these long ass posts you fuckers holy shit

[Anonymous No.15020451]

>>15020418
kek

[Anonymous No.15020467]

>>15020409
Apparently people are paying $250 for these 100m wr "divers" seiko 5s now that seiko dropped the snk divers.

[Anonymous No.15020486]

Is there anything that looks kind of like a vintage seamaster and has water resistance?

[Anonymous No.15020506]

>>15020467
What a bunch of shit eaters. No wonder Seiko downgraded everything like you guys said. Guess I just didn't pay enough attention.

[Anonymous No.15020535]

[None !IGORsW/P/E No.15020546]

I respect audiophiles.

[Anonymous No.15020548]

>>15020546
>>15020107

[Anonymous No.15020550]

>>15020548

[Anonymous No.15020553]

>>15020550
>>15020115

[Anonymous No.15020554]

>>15020546
Kike alert

[None !IGORsW/P/E No.15020557]

>>15020554
Bezos is not Jewish

[Anonymous No.15020562]

>>15020557
That’s your own 23andme Igor, you fucking kike

[Anonymous No.15020565]

>>15020546
Pictured; an asshole

[Anonymous No.15020570]

So why are you so mad at Igor?

[Anonymous No.15020601]

>>15019899
Fuck you poly

[Anonymous No.15020603]

>>15020546
there is no reason to spend more than $200 on a pair of headphones for recreational listning

[Anonymous No.15020619]

>seiko 8L35B
>breitling caliber B09
>rolex 3130

these are the three movements that power my watches, all outstanding and superbly engineered. out of all of them the 3130 is the oldest yet continues to be the most precise.

how did rolex do it? it’s literally +/-0spd for a weeks straight and the fucking thing is like 13 years old with a single service in between. i beat the hell out of it and it doesn’t even phase it.

[Anonymous No.15020645]

>>15020619
>8L35B
Is it an SLA017?

[Anonymous No.15020650]

>>15020645

yes my fren

[Anonymous No.15020666]

>>15020650
What model watch is that?

[Anonymous No.15020678]

>>15020666

sla017

[Anonymous No.15020692]

i really want to try out a GS spring drive but all the higher end models seem too big and thicc. the SBGA285 which is their super basic model seems to have the best dimensions imo (39 mm
x 12.3 mm).

thoughts? anyone own one? theyre only like 3k new.

[Anonymous No.15020759]

>>15020678
Oh im dumb, nice pickup, that thing is sexy

[Anonymous No.15020838]

>>15020678
>Google model number
>Click first article
>The coolest seiko diver you will never own
t-thanks...

[Anonymous No.15020840]

>>15020199
Checked

[Anonymous No.15020848]

What is the ultimate vintage digital lcd watch?
No g-shok
No LEDshit
No computer, databank, camera, tv etc meme features

[Anonymous No.15020858]

>>15020848

i wouldn't say its the ultimate but this has been with me since the late 80s

[Anonymous No.15020861]

>>15019538
Nah, the 2nd gen Monsters with the shark teeth is the best design.

[Anonymous No.15020872]

>>15020858
It's a little chaotic but kind of sexy at the same time. Do you know if they put the same module into a square case?

[Anonymous No.15020875]

>>15020848
Replying to myself.
This seiko A829 is pretty cool. You rotate the bezel to select the different modes.

[Anonymous No.15020877]

>>15020872
apparently they did, just google citizen pro master wind surfer D060. at the time i bought this i had zero idea about horology i just felt it looked cool without it being a diving watch.

[Anonymous No.15020878]

>>15020875
I had one as a kid and loved it

[Anonymous No.15020886]

[Anonymous No.15020888]

>>15019882
besides probably some chinese clone, a smiths prs-35

[Anonymous No.15020890]

[Anonymous No.15020893]

[Anonymous No.15020902]

>>15020261
What model?

[Anonymous No.15020904]

What does/wt/ think of Franck Muller?

[Anonymous No.15020926]

>>15020227
Or you could stop being a giga nigga and pay 20 bucks more for a better technology.

[Anonymous No.15020934]

>>15019519
>"Suggest a watch for me."
>>see guide
But there's not chink shit in it, besides the Seagull. I'm looking for actually good stuff off of aliexpress. So no obvious fakes (though inspired designs are OK) and not ultracheap fashion crap or gadgets. Just some solid, no name watch. Does such a think exist?
Particularily fond of mechanical divers. Think Vostok Amphibia. Budget's up to $200.

[Anonymous No.15020940]

Bros, is there a brand tier list? I'm looking for a 1000ish dress watch I can dress down. I'm looking at Hamilton, Frederique Constant, Longines, Rado, what else?

[Anonymous No.15020941]

>>15020199
Blue collars should be massacred.

[Anonymous No.15020948]

>>15020940
https://www.watch-rankings.com/watch-rankings/

[Anonymous No.15020951]

>>15020941
What do you recommend for not being blue collar? preferably without going into debt, , or being a yuppie faggot having to interact with women and other guys in our unnecessary little office costumes

[Anonymous No.15020967]

Are there alternatives to the SKX013?

I wanted a midsize small diver and thought this was the one. I got to try it on but I didn't really like it. It's too thick for its size and also it has a top heavy weight distribution that it tends to flail on your wrist.

What can replace it?

[Anonymous No.15020971]

>>15020550
He looks like an egg in a vest.

[Anonymous No.15020972]

>>15020967
There's that 36mm longines legend diver, also the 36mm oris divers 65.

[Anonymous No.15020979]

>>15020972
I don't like super compressors because I had one before and wrist movement or your sleeve brushing on it can reset the timer.

Also those are kind of overpriced bad at $1500-2000. I'm looking at $400 max budget but actually cheaper is better.

[Anonymous No.15020982]

>>15020979
>Also those are kind of overpriced bad at $1500-2000
Yea can't really argue there. Not sure what other small divers there are under $400.

[Anonymous No.15020989]

>>15020848
G757

[Anonymous No.15020994]

>>15020951
I reccomend making 200K and buying a Vostok.

[Anonymous No.15020995]

>>15019882
Stowa Marine, 740€

[Anonymous No.15020998]

>>15020940
Seiko SARB.

[Anonymous No.15021003]

>HE FELL FOR THE GRAND SEIKO MEME
>NGMI.

[Anonymous No.15021004]

>>15020982
V O S T O K
O S T O K V
S T O K V O
T O K V O S
O K V O S T
K V O S T O

[Anonymous No.15021007]

>>15020982
You could take a look at some of the older citizen divers. They tend to be smaller and thinner than the seikos.

[Anonymous No.15021022]

Sterile dial Parnis GMT as a shitter? Batman or plain black bezel?

[Anonymous No.15021028]

Can someone id the watch?

[Anonymous No.15021034]

>>15020904
has been that never should've been "a thing" in the first place
>joke brand by a coke addict/criminal
>factory caught making rolex fakes
>factory caught passing cheapo russian movements as "swiss" 20 years ago (canary in a coal mine for the whole "swiss made" = chinese made thing today)
>only popular in the first place because fagguette extraordinaire elton john shilled the fuck out of it back in the day, not even he wears it anymore
>like all standard cartier models, poorly finished, >cheaply made and marked up like cinema popcorn
>shitty resale value = shitty market value = shitty worth

gay clown watch for coked up bandwagon faggots in the 90s. if that's the look you're into then go ahead lmao

[Anonymous No.15021056]

>>15020994
I already have the vostok, how do I make 200k

[Anonymous No.15021076]

>>15021028
Stop posting your parents pictures

[Anonymous No.15021080]

>>15021056
Easy.
If we’re assuming that you’re getting like 3.5% return on your capital (dividends and such), you just need a bit less than $6 mil to make 200k a year. But 3.5 is quite conservative. If the market continues its roll you can probably already get by with about two millions.

[Anonymous No.15021081]

>>15021028
Looks like one of those ceramic Rados.

[Anonymous No.15021084]

>>15021028
Where’s the watch bro?

[Anonymous No.15021089]

Movado Eliro PVD

[Anonymous No.15021090]

>>15021080
I get the shtick but I wish you would of said something else

[Anonymous No.15021094]

What's a non meme watch between 1 and 5k which is not overpriced?

[Anonymous No.15021096]

>>15021094
Breetling

[Anonymous No.15021098]

>>15019652
Undo the two screws holding that plate down. Common sense my dude.

[Anonymous No.15021114]

>>15020972
That Oris looks like an inferior Baltic.

[Anonymous No.15021116]

>>15021096
He said non meme

[Anonymous No.15021119]

>>15020848
A friend inherited this and it's growing on me. Apparently you use the bezel and the crown to manipulate the digital displays. It's very thin and has a realitvely small diameter.

[Anonymous No.15021130]

>>15020926
Being more complex doesn't make it better for this use case. The watch still performs the same functions, with or without it. Bluetooth and GPS may be the only exceptions, but most people don't need those in a watch - I certainly don't.
It makes the watch more expensive to buy and maintain, and it turns if from a self-contained device into a device that relies on external conditions in order to function, which makes it more similar to other "modern consumer electronics". I don't want to have yet another Li-ion battery that will need to be recharged regularly.

[Anonymous No.15021135]

[Anonymous No.15021154]

I'm a cheapfag but I really want a watch like this.

Are there any affordable watches with this kind of dial? Does't even have to be blue. Just the speckled streak effect.

[Anonymous No.15021160]

>>15021154
Wow what a rip-off of Glashütte Original. Fucking Japs.

[Anonymous No.15021167]

>>15021130
Atomic time is the best complication.

[Anonymous No.15021170]

>>15021116
AND I SAID BREETLING YOU CUNT

[Anonymous No.15021172]

>>15021160
Looks like the dial is vomiting

[Anonymous No.15021174]

>>15021098
Problem is, they aren't screws.

[Anonymous No.15021190]

>>15021167
I'm pretty sure that you don't need solar power for atomic time, it's not using anywhere near as much power as Bluetooth or GPS.
Also, personally, I don't want any wireless communications in my watches, and that includes atomic time.

[Anonymous No.15021202]

>>15021190
Based,
fuck solar and fuck atomic clocks.

[Anonymous No.15021238]

>>15020692
You kind of have to deal with it unless you go with certain non spring drive. Find a way to actually see it in person.

[Anonymous No.15021245]

>>15020227
Get fucked in the ass you parrot

[Anonymous No.15021261]

>>15021160
>ripoff
>different texture
>different design language

Why are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.15021275]

>>15021190
>Also, personally, I don't want any wireless communications in my watches, and that includes atomic time.
Why?

[Anonymous No.15021292]

>>15021275
Don't ask stupid questions

[Anonymous No.15021293]

>>15021034
>>factory caught making rolex fakes
wait, no it wasn't the factory it was the manager implicated in a violent robbery of rolex parts in order to create rolex fakes or some shit
went to jail sentenced to rape by mountain trolls for a century
such are the ways of the swiss

[Anonymous No.15021300]

>>15020967
If you're interested in microbrands, Nodus has a few 38mm divers under their Sector line and they're well regulated and not super expensive. Islander has a couple 38mm SKX homages for $299 if that's what you're into. You could also shoot for something that's got a Miyota 9015 to reduce thickness a little bit. The Maen Hudson is 38mm and has an STP-11 in there and is ~€400. That's a chunk more expensive than the SKX but it's a lot better movement and it's lighter.

[Anonymous No.15021304]

>>15020650
Wish the marker surrounds weren't so wide and flat. Other than that love it

[Anonymous No.15021309]

>>15021293
>>15021034
>>15020904
Someone I knew in real life owned a Crazy Hours watch of theirs and showed me before I got into all the watch stuff. Was pretty impressed at how the jumping time worked and it felt artistic without being illegible.

https://youtu.be/wH7g9DwaMBk?t=150

[Anonymous No.15021323]

>>15021309
It just jumps 5 hours ahead at a time.
I don't know how complex that really is as i've seen $100 chinese fake crazy hours accomplish the same feat.

[Anonymous No.15021331]

>>15021323
Well yeah I'll just buy the Chinese one at this point but I have to give them credit for coming up with the idea as early as 2003 when Rolex and Omega still had aluminum bezels and that was the height of creativity.

[Anonymous No.15021346]

>>15020619
The 313x has a free sprung balance wheel and a well designed mainspring that has very little drop in torque over the first 24 hours of mainspring wind.

With a free sprung balance, so long as the eccentric weights on the balance wheel were adjusted well at the factory or by the last person who serviced it, the balance wheel should show very little positional variation and a low average daily deviation. This is helped by having the amplitude of the movement remain consistent which is in turn helped by the mainspring which has a very even torque curve over the first 24 hours.

The bit of luck you got is that yours 313x either runs at the same rate on the wrist as dial up sitting in your watch box, or runs slightly faster and slower in ways that cancel each other out. Usually mechanical don't run at the exact same rate when on the wrist vs off the wrist. All the minor shocks and g-forces the escapement experiences when worn on the wrist usually cause it to run at a slightly different rate. My 313x runs slightly slower on the wrist and slightly faster left sitting dial up.

[Anonymous No.15021350]

>>15021292
>Don't ask stupid questions
Just answer it anyway, because I really don't get it.

[Anonymous No.15021351]

>>15021094
Tudor BB58 is a great value at $3,250.

[Anonymous No.15021354]

>>15021346
Fuck off with this wall of text you nerd. I know you’re that fat piece of shit with the flaky-skin hands.

[Anonymous No.15021359]

https://youtu.be/K8pXF8GzYNQ

[Anonymous No.15021362]

>>15021359
>Scammerico

Typical floridian conman who passed off replica watches as authentic

[Anonymous No.15021373]

>>15021130
>>15021202

I honestly dont get the hate for solar in these threads. Is it just one luddite autist?

>its more expensive
yeah, by like 20-30 bucks. If thats too much for you then you have wrong hobby. Picking trash cans might be more up your alley.
>its more complex
Technology is couple decades old and works flawlesly. So why care? If simplicity is your end goal then why wear digital watch at all?
>relies on external conditions
It relies on the fucking sun you massive autist. Not the CIA central database.
>don't want to have yet another Li-ion battery that will need to be recharged regularly
Go outside once in 9 months. Bam, problem solved.

[Anonymous No.15021376]

>>15021373
I will never buy solar. My dad bought an Eco drive and it shit itself after like 4 years. No watchmaker I brought it to could fix it. They're just disposable gimmicks. Just buy quartz it'll last you longer.

[Anonymous No.15021405]

What's a cheap, simple movement with enough documentation? I want to learn how to service watches starting with that one.

[Anonymous No.15021418]

>>15021373
I honestly don't get the love for solar in these threads.

>It's only 200 bucks more
Why would I pay any extra for something with no additional utility?
>It works
But not any better than a standard battery
>Just relies on the sun
Or I could have a normal quartz which doesn't rely on anything
>Just go outside
An easy condition, yes, but why choose to opt into it?

Sarcasm aside I genuinely don't get the appeal. Practically both techs will perform the exact same so why pay more?

[Anonymous No.15021419]

>>15021405
Eta 2824 is probably the most ubiquitous

[Anonymous No.15021420]

>>15021418
*20 bucks

[Anonymous No.15021421]

>>15021405
Chinese Unitas 649x clone.

[Anonymous No.15021423]

>>15021419
Actually maybe Miyota 9015 is more widespread

[Anonymous No.15021425]

>>15021419
>>15021421
Both are poor choices for someone learning from scratch compared to a Unitas 649x clone. The Unitas clone will be cheaper to buy, it's easier to work on due to being larger and manual wind, and there is extensive documentation about it aimed at beginners because it is usually used as the first movement type to learn on.

[Anonymous No.15021427]

>>15021350
>>>15021292
>>Don't ask stupid questions
>Just answer it anyway, because I really don't get it.
Well?

[Anonymous No.15021430]

Is this the only good chrono between the seagull 1963 and the speedmaster? There's a huge gap between 500 and 5000 with nothing noteworthy in it

[Anonymous No.15021433]

>>15021373
>>relies on external conditions
>It relies on the fucking sun you massive autist.
Do you know where you are?
Then you probably also know why that’s a problem.
T. Fap powered Vostok user

[Anonymous No.15021434]

>>15021405
Vostok 2415 and 2416.

[Anonymous No.15021436]

>>15021430
There's also the Tag Huehue monaco to consider. Other than that chronographs are kinda uninteresting.

[Anonymous No.15021439]

>>15021436

[Anonymous No.15021450]

[Anonymous No.15021451]

Of the 3 that I've been recommended, the unitas clone I've found, the seagull st 36 goes for about $40. Is this a decent price?

[Anonymous No.15021464]

>>15021425
How actually hard is to start with this? Im more concerned about initial tool costs, that is, im not exactly keen on spending hundreds and hundreds of bucks on specialized stuff like in this vid ( https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jgpfZsukqK4 )

[Anonymous No.15021471]

>>15021450
The best looking watch yema do nowadays, they made the yachtingraf way too chunky

[Anonymous No.15021472]

>>15021471
Kind of on the fence with that one because 19mm lugs

[Anonymous No.15021475]

>>15021464
Well you're not going to be able to service any mechanical movement without at least a basic set of watchmakers tools.

[Anonymous No.15021479]

>>15021472
What's wrong with that?

[Anonymous No.15021483]

>>15021479
well, i got a couple of 20mm nato straps already

[Anonymous No.15021488]

>>15021472
From what I understand yema has some shoddy QC. I'd un-ironically prefer a baltic despite all the recent shilling

[Anonymous No.15021491]

>>15021488
coincidentally, baltic is one of my options. guess this is the sign then

[Anonymous No.15021499]

>>15021430

[Anonymous No.15021500]

>>15021425
>>15021421
>>15021405
>>15021464
>>15021475
I'm starting this shit now.
I've just received today my 6497-1 sea-gull clone from hong kong (disinfected the package before opening and burned that shit). Over the past few weeks I've been assembling the tools listed on the timezone watchshool course (course 1 tool list).
Now I just have to decide what source of lessons I want to learn from.

>timezone watchschool pdfs and help forum; oldest online "course"
>learnwatchmaking 101 site with hours of videos
>watchrepairchannel's course
>random old books of which I've got a list that complied for starters + looking at youtube vids

My end goal is to be able to maintain my vostoks and other random shitters and pocketwatches that no one where I live will even bother to service or know how to service in the case of the pockets.
Gonna order some vostok movements to play around with too as I hear that it's basically mandatory to oil all vostoks, even the ones fresh out of the factory as most of the time they don't even bother to do that shit anymore.

[Anonymous No.15021513]

>>15021430
New? Pretty much. I mean, if you're really into functional design there's the Damasko DC80.

[Anonymous No.15021514]

>>15021499
That's just the seagull in a different case

[Anonymous No.15021523]

>>15021430
You can look for watches with the new(ish) seiko NE88 calibre column wheel chrono.

[Anonymous No.15021526]

>>15021500
That makes 3 of us, then. I haven't gotten anything yet, but my list looks like this:
Get the case openers, glass replacement tool, movement holder, loupe, hand remover, and oil.
Advised not to cheap out on screwdriver and tweezers, the rest can be whatever.
Already have the following:
Ultrasonic cleaner
Something to hold parts

Get the movement, find something on YouTube and mix with supplemental info on the internet. Take the parts, ultrasonic clean, and reassemble while oiling.

Then I have to find a case, dial, and hands. I have no idea what I'm going to do. Any ideas? All I know is that the unitas clone is a big movement so it might be better off as a diver or a pilot. Maybe I'll do a really shitty heat bluing on the hands and paint something on the dial.

[Anonymous No.15021579]

>>15021238
I actually like how it looks, just a bit boring. Ill head to my AD this weekend to try it on. If it fits well ill probably end up buying it.

[Anonymous No.15021591]

Is there a list of ST19 chronographs somewhere?

I'm pretty much set on buying a watch with the movement but don't know all my options. Also how do you know how much power is left since it is handwinding?

[Anonymous No.15021594]

>>15021430
Longines column wheel single pusher.

[Anonymous No.15021600]

>>15021373
>Is it just one luddite autist?
It's mostly one guy playing fantasy football about watch ownership. All the malformed, misrepresented theories in the world and zero practical experience.

[Anonymous No.15021602]

>>15021526
Also, post pilotwatches you like so I can get ideas.

[Anonymous No.15021606]

>>15021591
Seagull
Hked
A bunch of micro brands that want double, with a nasty habit of making one off productions you can't get anymore
Random shit on taobao or aliexpress

[Anonymous No.15021608]

I DROPPED MY DADS LANGE 1 FUCK

[Anonymous No.15021612]

>>15021608
FUCK ITS CRACKED ARE THERE EBAY CRYSTALS FOR THIS

[Anonymous No.15021613]

>>15021612
Yo I seriously need help he comes home Friday

[Anonymous No.15021615]

>>15021613
HELP. ME.

[Anonymous No.15021617]

>>15021488
Shit lume, also the grain dial doesn't look as good irl as in pics.

[Anonymous No.15021619]

>>15021608
Well there's a blast from the past, so to speak.

[Anonymous No.15021622]

>>15021615
oh you dead nigga

[Anonymous No.15021625]

>>15021615
>>15021608
My knowledge of online watch shit makes me know where this image actually came from lol.

The repair costs were ridiculous he could've bought a rollie or GS with it.

[Anonymous No.15021627]

>>15021615
Movement’s definitely fucked too. Congrats.

[Anonymous No.15021644]

>>15021405
Why not an nh35? Those are like $40-50

[Anonymous No.15021660]

>>15020941
then who will make goods for you to purchase? all you do is manipulate money that isn't really there to somehow make more money

[Anonymous No.15021679]

>>15021615
Well, look at the bright side: fixing this would still be cheaper than buying a new one.

[Anonymous No.15021704]

alright guys i need a beater, i was interested in the carbon fiber square gshock but after reading the posts about the unnecessary add-ons like solar, im reconsidering. anything similar? $200 price range for my beater, i would appreciate suggestions

[Anonymous No.15021707]

>>15021660
Watch makers aren't blue collar.

I don't manipulate money I just sit back and let my 200K roll in.

[Anonymous No.15021708]

>>15021373
It's just a shitposter, see the post right above mine

[None !IGORsW/P/E No.15021717]

>>15020967
What are some similar looking upmarket seiko models made in japan?

[Anonymous No.15021741]

>>15021526
Note: I read on a forum somewhere, that if you're going to get a chinese unitas clone try to get a sea-gull branded one over the parnis branded ones. Parnis buys seconds from sea-gull and sells them on. Apparently they're so flawed and the tolerances on these reject sea-gulls so bad that they're virtually impossible to reassemble. Not worth it. Does buying a sea-gull branded one guarantee that it's not a parnis reject? Dunno.
Also, if you're looking at ebay or whatever, avoid the China based sellers right now for obvious reasons; /g/'s /chinkshitgeneral/ is reporting cancellation after cancellation of shit from China.
Hong Kong might still be okay. I ordered last week but I'm also in Asia so it didn't take long. I've seen sellers of these movements based in the USA and in France, so you might be able to get local stock.

[Anonymous No.15021742]

>>15021704
Pony up another $50 and get this. G-shock square, metal case with screwback (still with the resin bezel, no solar, no radioshit. Just a good old watch that uses batteries.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Casio-G-Shock-35th-Anniversary-Limited-Edition-Mens-Watch-DW-5035D-1B/163648857063

[Anonymous No.15021762]

Is it safe to order from Guangzhou? I'm getting stuff from there.

[Anonymous No.15021763]

>>15021742
honestly, i dont see why this is 250, i know it has better specs and build but i own the cheaper version of that watch and cant justify purchasing a very similar looking watch for 250. i just need a new beater cause im going to be a fire fighter and want something new

[Anonymous No.15021772]

>>15021763
Just buy a replacement bezel and strap for the g-shock you have on tiktox. You might even be able to get the carbon fiber strap from the fancy one if you dig around a bit on there.

[Anonymous No.15021794]

>>15021772
looked around and found that it would be 130 euros for band and bezel. honestly if i go with that i might as well just purchase the whole watch for $200. whatever im just going to do it.
thanks anyways

[Anonymous No.15021806]

>>15021526
>>15021741
This is what I got assembled so far:
>Mvt holder
>blower
>rodico
>pith and pegwoods
>watch paper
>mvt base/pad
>hand removing spoons
didn't want to get the hand removal tool as they were very costly, and to be proper you actually have to buy two different types (#1&6) totaling $100 without shipping or more (one for the hour/minute and a different one for the smaller, more delicate seconds hand). The cheapo removal tools are not recommended as you're more likely as not to bend the fuck out of the hands with them, same goes for the cheapo hand press. I've seen a guy remove vostok hands off the dial with a two pocketknife blades so I think with my hand remover's I'll be alright. Better control and precision than the hand removal press thing. I think pocket watch movements (6497) use a different size hand removal tool; another 50 bucks
>dial protector
>finger cots
>glasses loupe x5+x10
>AF screwdriver set 0.60mm to 1.4
AF was recommended online and in-store as as budget alternative to the really good stuff, which is fucking expensive where I live. AF will suffice for my amateur hobbyist endeavours. Read that I'd have little use for the larger diameters (1.8/2.5 etc).
>AF 0.50mm screw
>Dumoxel antimag tweezers #5
will only come in handy when dealing with the hairspring
>Dumoxel antimag #2
>Random brand antimag tweezer set I got for cheap at an electronics store, varying sizes
>cheap generic chinese watch repair kit anon on here recommended including case opener, spring bar tool, watch blade, some shitty screwdrivers I'll never use and some oilers I'll use for applying lume
The watchmaking tools supply store I went to had way too many case opening tools and they were all costly. The cheapo kit has one that's known to open vostoks well enough and will suffice for the moment.
>grade A superluminova C3, thinner, binder
>that round, covered parts tray with the blue base you see in all the pics
>PTS generic chinese handwind movement + sea-gull st36

[Anonymous No.15021826]

>>15021806
Already have some silicon grease and an ultrasonic, but I'll need to get a better lamp for work (a watch guy recommended a 3,500K temp colour light or close too it).
Another thing I've been thinking about is the workspace: your chair really has to be quite low and the table quite high for a comfortable working session otherwise it's just too much back strain. Chest height.
Been meaning to get a new computer desk chair anyway.
Ikea has a table that can be raised that'd go well.

I've not bought any oils and shit first as virtually every guide or course and book I've seen starts off with just disassembling the movement and getting to know it back to front. Oiling and that kind of shit is the second stage that I'll get to eventually, and there are different oils for different types of movements etc.

Was thinking of starting a horology general on /diy/ as I don't think this general is very conducive for the technical aspects of this hobby.

[Anonymous No.15021827]

>>15020948
who decides these rankings?

[Anonymous No.15021836]

>>15021806
>>15021826
FUCK OFF with these long ass fucking posters holy shit

[Anonymous No.15021846]

>>15021836
>>>twitter
if you just want pics of watches and posts praising the purchase of another shitter, go to leddit

[Anonymous No.15021849]

>>15021836
>implying
>projecting
i use neither sites and of course youd know how reddit works

[Anonymous No.15021852]

>>15021849
room temp iq retard can't even post right
you need to go back

[Anonymous No.15021853]

>>15021708
Solar is shit and you should stop posting.

>>15021762
It's 100% safe to order from there, I get all my watches from there.

[None !IGORsW/P/E No.15021854]

breitling is one of the tackiest brands

[Anonymous No.15021861]

>>15021836
No.
Don't read it if you don't like it you zero attention span zoomer faggot.

[Anonymous No.15021862]

>>15021853
>Solar is shit

[Anonymous No.15021869]

>>15021275
>>>15021190
>>Also, personally, I don't want any wireless communications in my watches, and that includes atomic time.
>Why?
>>15021292
>>15021190
Still waiting...

[Anonymous No.15021885]

I gifted my dad a high end fake breitling

[Anonymous No.15021889]

>>15020989
Just got mine yesterday, trying to find a decent strap for it. Also need a new screw on the bezel but for $500 it's a steal

[Anonymous No.15021905]

Should I not buy a gold plated Omega on eBay for 300€? Is this a mistake? Am I going to love it or regret it?

[Anonymous No.15021913]

>>15021905
only solid gold

[Anonymous No.15021922]

>>15021514
A much more beautiful case and with decent qc.

[Anonymous No.15021979]

>>15021056
Either open some sort of internet based business, or inherit good genes and connections to gainful employment in high paying fields. Everyone I've ever met who makes ~$200k/yr is either an entrepreneur in or was supported by their parents through college and were able to enter into a good spot in a stem field due to a combination of good genes, decent work ethic and having the right last names on their references.

[Anonymous No.15021985]

>>15021979
>supported by their parents through college and were able to enter into a good spot in a stem field due to a combination of good genes, decent work ethic and having the right last names on their references
wagie cope

[Anonymous No.15022006]

>>15021430
Maen Skyraider is fairly well put together with an ETA 2894-2 (which is basically just a more modern version of the modified Valjoux 7750 used in the Hamilton) and will run you around $800 less than the Hamilton. With that said, Maen is a dumb name for a watch and even though they're very high quality Swiss pieces, there's not really any lineage or history. The Hamilton Intra-matic is an homage to a history that Hamilton actually had. I'm not super concerned about the name on the dial so I'd probably just save the money and buy the Maen, but the Intra-matic is still a pretty fantastic watch that maybe if I was less tight for cash I'd spring for instead.

[Anonymous No.15022036]

>>15022006
>ETA 2894-2 (which is basically just a more modern version of the modified Valjoux 7750 used in the Hamilton)
The 2894-2 is not related to the 7750 at all. The 2894-2 is a 2892-A2 with a disposable Dubois Depraz chronograph module piggybacked onto it. Pic related is said chronograph module.

[Anonymous No.15022044]

>>15021885
shameful desu, respect your dad more

[Anonymous No.15022047]

Fits like a glove

[Anonymous No.15022064]

>>15021806
>cheap generic chinese watch repair kit anon on here recommended including case opener, spring bar tool, watch blade, some shitty screwdrivers I'll never use and some oilers I'll use for applying lume
What are these? Link?

[Anonymous No.15022113]

[SHITTER POLICE No.15022124]

MIGRATE IMMEDIATELY

>>15022117
>>15022117
>>15022117

TOO MANY SHITTERS HAVE BEEN POSTED

ABORT ABORT

I REPEAT AGAIN, MIGRATE THE SHITTER-FILLED SHITHOLE IMMEDIATELY

>>15022117

[Anonymous No.15022127]

>>15021985
What? Are you schizophrenic or something? It's a cope that most people I know in my personal life who fall into a certain earning bracket had very significant familial support through their education process and were able to capitalize on opportunities their familial connections could give them? What does that being a cope even mean?

[Anonymous No.15022131]

>>15022064
Go on Amazon and type "watch repair kit" and you'll find a whole bunch of zip up kits for around 12 bucks or less. They're junk, but for unscrewing a vostok it'll suffice. Only useful things in it are the case opener, springbar tool and the watch knife. Everything else is flimsy shit. Not that the case opener isn't crap, I just couldnt find one in store that would open my vostok and couldn't be fucked ordering an expensive one from another country.
The kit contents vary as they're all variations on a theme but as long as you get those three things it's okay.

[Anonymous No.15022167]

>>15022131
I have this exact kit and while it is absolute garbage it has mostly gotten the job done. The plastic link pin-pushing vice broke, every other tool bent. But it works.

[Anonymous No.15022176]

>>15022167
>The plastic link pin-pushing vice broke
Everyone who I've heard talk about that thing in any of its many iterations in these cheap shit kits has said that same thing about it.

[Anonymous No.15022186]

NO SHITTERS ALLOWED!

IT HAS GOT TO FUCKING HURT!

[Anonymous No.15022222]

>>15022127
>always someone elses fault, and out of my control
You've failed before even starting.

[Anonymous No.15022406]

>>15022222
There's no attribution of fault in what I've said. It's just an acknowledgement of the reality that having a combination of good genetics and a helpful family is generally useful for being put together in the way that high earners tend to be.

Isn't that the point of healthy and capable people forming strong families? To support their children as they use your genetic code and resources to become successful in the future? It seems odd that someone would deny something so blatantly apparent when it's also mentioned that for a large portion of people these advantages are not present so it's reasonable to adjust your expectations of yourself accordingly. If you come from a broken household and have tons of genetically inherited diseases, it's pretty reasonable to expect you're likely to fare poorly compared to the people who come from married upper middle class households and don't have as many genetically inherited diseases. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try to succeed if you're in that position, but temper your expectations to reality if you're not looking to be constantly crushed under a weight you can't handle.

[Anonymous No.15022415]

>>15022222
Also nice digits based Boomer bootstraps poster.

[Anonymous No.15022443]

im browsing through some casio squares and noticing alot of negative displays. what is the purpose of negative displays, just seems like it makes it harder to read the watch

[Anonymous No.15022476]

bump

[Anonymous No.15022492]

>>15021362
source on this desu? i'm only familiar with horologyhouse. does he sell watches as well?

[Anonymous No.15022808]

Which Rolex-Explorer like watch should I get?
Thinking about Longines Legend Diver, Sinn 856, Tudor Ranger
Preferring >100m water resistance, preferably greater

[Anonymous No.15022856]

>>15022808

[Anonymous No.15022868]

>>15022808
Just get the real thing

[Anonymous No.15022900]

>>15022856
>>15022868
I don't want one

[Anonymous No.15022905]

>>15022900
>I want something that looks like this thing I don't want

[Anonymous No.15022910]

>>15022905
The only Rolex Explorers that I think look good are so damn old that I would never use it underwater

[Anonymous No.15022932]

>>15022808
114270 is the right answer.

[Anonymous No.15022959]

>>15022932
Hmm, I'll think about it
I really like the look of the vintage age looking numerals on the Legend Diver and the Omega Railmaster too
I might pick up an Explorer and then later pick up something else

[Anonymous No.15022991]

>>15022959
buy this beauty

[Anonymous No.15022992]

>>15022991

[Anonymous No.15023701]

>>15020998
Sarb...

[Anonymous No.15024088]

>>15023701
Yes...

[Anonymous No.15024297]

>>15019519
can I get an ID on this watch?
>and/or the earbuds if anyone has it

[Anonymous No.15024762]

>>15020934
mate
you can get an Amphibia under 100 right now on amazon

[Anonymous No.15025216]

>>15024297
Don't know the watch. But the headphones are the tin t2

[Anonymous No.15025643]

>>15024762
But I already have an amphibia.