/fa/ - Fashion

[Anonymous No.14999741]

how do you make sure that the way you dress is authentic to your personality and lifestyle and that you aren't being some sort of LARPer like those Asians you see in the expensive Americana workwear from a few years ago?

[Anonymous No.14999788]

>>14999741
try to avoid trends because those are socially driven and not personally influenced.
Priority wise it goes: personality>lifestyle>fashion style.

you have to work on your self before you style your wardrobe otherwise you will come off as disingenuous or as a LARPer. Try to make your hobbies and tastes outside of fashion shine through your wardrobe as much as possible. Say you like biking you might have a few accessories that help you facilitate that lifestyle and the cuts and fabrics of your clothing are carefully chosen to compliment that and not interfere. If you like being outdoors you might have a few pieces in that wardrobe that serve dual purpose as hiking equipment and casual attire. Even if you have simpler hobbies and interests like music you can still wear a bit of merch or dress like the subculture that has built around a band you like, even this is more genuine than whatever is worn at coachella. Then comes personality which is a bit more abstract and difficult to convey through clothing, this means choosing the right colors and pieces that reflect your mood or general demeanor. If you prioritize lifestyle and personality you will make something truly unique that no one can really call you out on unless they hate your character.

[Anonymous No.14999800]

>>14999788
oh.. came here to say essentially this but it seems i have been replaced by a different paragraph-poster.

[Anonymous No.14999920]

>>14999788
Tbh most people that follow this are either extremely cringe or end up blindly following trends without realizing it. It's truly hard to actually be unique and "cool".

[Anonymous No.14999944]

>>14999920
are you saying it's cringe because it doesn't adhere to a norm? it's kinda dumb to make a blanket statement like that without backing it up with some examples of what you are pointing out. As for blindly following trends you will only see it as this when that particular style is in the spotlight and it is being pilfered by the mainstream. It may seem like they are just following trends but they might be the ones that started it. It really isn't hard to be unique and cool, there is always going to be someone out there who digs what you're doing but not everyone is going to accept it.

[Anonymous No.14999971]

>>14999741
Look at characters in movies and tv shows, they have a wardrobe department that is tasked to making sure they are wearing clothes that accurately reflect who the director wants them to be. The clothes they wear are designed to make sure they complement the character and not over shine. Be your own director and clothing wardrobe team. Thinking about who you want to portray yourself as, then think about what clothing will help complement that, without taking the spotlight off of you. Very rarely would you have characters dress in a way that overshadows their personality/things they do.

[Anonymous No.14999974]

>>14999741
Get out of touch with fashion and then pick whatever clothes you personally like the most. People may laugh but if it's authenticity you're going for then that's the way.

[Anonymous No.14999978]

>>14999788
>you have to work on your self before you style your wardrobe otherwise you will come off as disingenuous or as a LARPer. Try to make your hobbies and tastes outside of fashion shine through your wardrobe as much as possible. Say you like biking you might have a few accessories that help you facilitate that lifestyle and the cuts and fabrics of your clothing are carefully chosen to compliment that and not interfere. If you like being outdoors you might have a few pieces in that wardrobe that serve dual purpose as hiking equipment and casual attire. Even if you have simpler hobbies and interests like music you can still wear a bit of merch or dress like the subculture that has built around a band you like, even this is more genuine than whatever is worn at coachella. Then comes personality which is a bit more abstract and difficult to convey through clothing, this means choosing the right colors and pieces that reflect your mood or general demeanor. If you prioritize lifestyle and personality you will make something truly unique that no one can really call you out on unless they hate your character.

I can't disagree with anything here.

[Anonymous No.14999982]

>>14999920

By default you are unique. There is nobody who looks like you, thinks like you, or acts like you. They may have parts of you, but they will never have your entirety.

[Anonymous No.14999990]

>>14999974
there will always be someone who laughs at you even if you are wearing the most in trend clothes out there so it's better to just wear what you feel like lol.

[Anonymous No.14999997]

>>14999974
>Get out of touch with fashion and then pick whatever clothes you personally like the most. People may laugh but if it's authenticity you're going for then that's the way.

Make sure that if someone were to make a movie about your life, it would make sense for the actor to be wearing those clothes without the movie being cringe.

[Anonymous No.15000003]

>>14999920
He's right though. The best "inspos" and looks are here are from people who actually have hobbies or are interested in what they're doing. When someone just wears it to wear it, it looks stupid.

[Anonymous No.15000009]

Stop letting fashion speak for you.

[Anonymous No.15000301]

>>14999944
No, it's because people just end up looking stupid.

[Anonymous No.15000439]

>>15000301

just do what wardrobe people on tv shows and movies do for the characters

[Anonymous No.15000461]

>>14999741
>imagine not having a personality or your own style and having to ask a forum of incels for help
My sides

[Anonymous No.15000466]

>>15000461

asking is better than retards who think they have style when they're dressed in LARP

[Anonymous No.15000838]

>>14999788
>>14999920
>>14999944
This is cringe because you're not being yourself by doing this, you are actively trying to 'look like' yourself. Even if you have a hobby like hiking, hiking isn't the sum total of yourself. You would look like a NPC because you're literally trying to look like an archetype.
Taking the time to work on yourself is genuinely good advice, though. It's easier to dress as yourself if you know who that person is.

>>14999741
My personal policy is when I find something I think looks good and want to buy, I take a minute and ask myself honestly if I can see myself wearing this for a long time, possibly for the rest of my life. If I find myself 'making excuses' to buy it, e.g. I could wear this at x event or when I do x activity, then I'm not buying it to dress authentically. You should be able to answer yes or no to the question, no excuses necessary. Once I started doing this I noticed that I made fewer purchases I regretted, and I wore the clothes I bought more routinely in my daily rotations.

Like other posters have mentioned, you should also try to be mindful of trends, and try to catch yourself if you think your interest in buying something is being affected by it's current popularity. It's obviously impossible to avoid this completely, but it helps to keep it in mind.

[Anonymous No.15000859]

>>15000838
>>14999741
You should also take some time to properly figure out what your thoughts are on what fashion and wearing clothes mean to you. It's possible to have a unique look and dress sincerely even if you don't care about what you wear all that much. For example, people who look natural in workwear look that way because it's usually something they actually wear when they work, so they're comfortable wearing it. A lot of people that follow trends and get labelled 'NPCs' dress like that because they don't want to think too hard or too introspectively about what to wear, so they choose what is popular and looks 'good enough' rather than dressing more expressively and risk looking bad.

If your idea of dressing authentically means looking great all the time, that's a lot harder. You need to have a lot of confidence and be willing for people to think you look stupid, since the only person you should be impressing is yourself. If this is what you mean, then don't overthink it, just wear what you like.

[Anonymous No.15000973]

>>15000838
>>15000859

>This is cringe because you're not being yourself by doing this, you are actively trying to 'look like' yourself.
You are always yourself. You cannot be anything but yourself. The you at work, the you at school, the you at home, the you with parents/family, the you with friends. These are all facets of who you are. The "you" that is dressed in a black suit for a funeral is as much "you" as the one who is casually lounging around. Wear whatever is most appropriate to each situation/occasion. If you're hiking, wear your hiking clothes.

>I take a minute and ask myself honestly if I can see myself wearing this for a long time, possibly for the rest of my life.
This is helpful for someone who wants to keep a tight wardrobe and save some money. The more space and money you have, the more freedom you have for wearing things that might not have the longevity other pieces may have. This logic starts breaking down when you take this to the extreme, at 20 you should be buying clothes for when you're 80. At most you should be looking 10 - 20 years ahead...and really 20 is really pushing it.

>It's possible to have a unique look and dress sincerely even if you don't care about what you wear all that much.
I don't know how much I can emphasize that you're unique just through your very own existence. You don't need clothes to prove that you are unique. The insecurity and low self-esteem is just screaming.

[Anonymous No.15000974]

>For example, people who look natural in workwear look that way because it's usually something they actually wear when they work, so they're comfortable wearing it.
The secret to not looking like a LARPer is to be able to pull off your look and make it look believable. It doesn't matter how "comfortable" you are in it. People either buy the image you're projecting as natural or they see it as contrived.

>You need to have a lot of confidence and be willing for people to think you look stupid, since the only person you should be impressing is yourself. If this is what you mean, then don't overthink it, just wear what you like.
Horrible advice that followed great advice about recommending people to be mindful of what image they want to project.

> A lot of people that follow trends and get labelled 'NPCs' dress like that because they don't want to think too hard or too introspectively about what to wear, so they choose what is popular and looks 'good enough' rather than dressing more expressively and risk looking bad.
You should move one step further and just think that everyone is an NPC.

[Anonymous No.15001018]

>>15000974
>>15000973
You're projecting onto me pretty hard here.

>You are always yourself. You cannot be anything but yourself. The you at work, the you at school, the you at home, the you with parents/family, the you with friends.
This part I 100% agree with. However, the advice I was replying to implies that you should be taking specific actions to look like yourself, which is reductive advice. Being yourself ultimately isn't a question of 'do x and y,' because then you're still following someone else's instructions.

>The secret to not looking like a LARPer is to be able to pull off your look and make it look believable. It doesn't matter how "comfortable" you are in it. People either buy the image you're projecting as natural or they see it as contrived.
Again, I think our thoughts here are the same, and we're both trying to give the same advice, but what you've said here isn't helpful. 'the secret to not looking like a larper is to not look like a larper' doesn't explain anything.

The most literal answer to the question 'how do I dress authentically' is literally just wear what you like, but that's not the real question being asked. The underlying question is 'how do I figure out who I am?' Any person that knows who they are doesn't need advice on how to be themselves, they just do. It's an unthinking action. I've tried to give a combination of advice that answers both questions.

[Anonymous No.15001061]

>>15000838
Way to give the most basic surface level advice that 100% percent of people are already doing here.

[Anonymous No.15001066]

>>15001061
The people who are already following this advice aren't going anywhere near this thread.

[Anonymous No.15001072]

>>14999741
You'll see alot of people like this in places like Shoreditch and Camden wearing the beanies as not to cover there ears but to cover there heads, wearing peacoats, vans and docs
Everyone wants to be unique and special, and when you have money and time you can either change yourself for the better by cultivating and improving yourself through fitness, learning new skills or just by trying to be a better person, is thus too much effort. So the next best thing to be a "unique" person is to spend money on clothes and accessories on trends and counter trends to make yourself appear nuance and fancy
It's also why you love they love alternative music(demarco/impala), alternative foods(veganburgers/craft beers) alternative politics (champagne socialism/identity politics) the alternative fashion is just one symptom of it all
you can all see these tropes are dominated by a certain demographic of young urban white middle class people
It's always easier to buy a way to look good/different then go through with the actual effort to look good\different

You'll see this in other cultures as well, punks and goths hate society for being the same despite all having the same five hairstyles, listening to the same music and wearing the same clothes. We try to stratify ourselves outside the box but this becomes a box itself. We will always be more similar then we are different

And that's why I abhor this board /fa/ is nothing but a chamber of stagnancy and narcissism, which encourages no cultivation of strength and intelligence through true development, you waste money on superfluous and superficial clothes in the hopes that it would improve how people see you, but it will never actually improve (you)

I remember a story as a child of the final judgment day when you stand naked before God, and he will judge you for what you are, no clothes no belongings, just what you are in the flesh and for that I will always improve upon my flesh and body

[Anonymous No.15001075]

>>15001072
your God can suck my dick

[Anonymous No.15001117]

>>15001072
Truth...too bad most here won't understand before it is too late.

>>15001075
STFU you heathen

>>15001018
LOL, I don't think you know what the word project means. Sad.

>However, the advice I was replying to implies that you should be taking specific actions to look like yourself, which is reductive advice. Being yourself ultimately isn't a question of 'do x and y,' because then you're still following someone else's instructions.
You're always yourself. The advice is to figure out how to be the best form of yourself when facing an audience. All you have to do is realize that characters on tv shows and movies have a wardrobe team that meticulously comb over and figure out what clothing to dress the characters in to best portray what the director wants to show to the audience.

>The most literal answer to the question 'how do I dress authentically' is literally just wear what you like, but that's not the real question being asked.
If you take the OP's question at face value, your answer is correct. However, this is not what the OP is truly asking. What he's truly worried about was being exposed as a fake. He was less worried about "being true to himself", but more worried about looking like a poser. All characters on tv shows and movies are fakes, but they're believable. Think about that for a moment. To stop yourself from being exposed as a poser isn't about how "confident" you are, it is able crafting your wardrobe based on what society expects you to look like.

>I think our thoughts here are the same, and we're both trying to give the same advice, but what you've said here isn't helpful.
You caught me here. I wasn't looking to really go too deep into the philosophy I've hinted at. Describing it is way too much of an effort and not many people would understand my perspective or what the hell I'm talking about when I refer to the wardrobe team, or characters in TV shows/movies. I'm just here to criticize you for saying "wear what you want".

[Anonymous No.15001145]

>>15001117
Alright, I see what's happening here. We've both psychoanalysed OP differently and we're both answering different questions based on our respective hot takes. I guess in that sense we're both right.

[Anonymous No.15001150]

>>15001145

You're so level headed that it is hard to disagree with you.

[Anonymous No.15001152]

>>15001150
Arguments on a mongolian basket weaving board aren't worth getting heated over. And as we've both conceded, OP's question is a total farce.

[Anonymous No.15001157]

>>15001152

Just look at the frag thread and you can see how much of a shit show it can get.

[Anonymous No.15001161]

Anonymous 02/11/20(Tue)04:48:47 No.14999741▶>>14999788 >>14999971 >>14999974 >>15000461 >>15000838 >>15000859 >>15001072
how do you make sure that the way you dress is authentic to your personality and lifestyle and that you aren't being some sort of LARPer like those Asians you see in the expensive Americana workwear from a few years ago?
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Anonymous 02/11/20(Tue)05:11:35 No.14999788▶>>14999800 >>14999920 >>14999978 >>15000838
>>14999741 (OP)
try to avoid trends because those are socially driven and not personally influenced.
Priority wise it goes: personality>lifestyle>fashion style.

you have to work on your self before you style your wardrobe otherwise you will come off as disingenuous or as a LARPer. Try to make your hobbies and tastes outside of fashion shine through your wardrobe as much as possible. Say you like biking you might have a few accessories that help you facilitate that lifestyle and the cuts and fabrics of your clothing are carefully chosen to compliment that and not interfere. If you like being outdoors you might have a few pieces in that wardrobe that serve dual purpose as hiking equipment and casual attire. Even if you have simpler hobbies and interests like music you can still wear a bit of merch or dress like the subculture that has built around a band you like, even this is more genuine than whatever is worn at coachella. Then comes personality which is a bit more abstract and difficult to convey through clothing, this means choosing the right colors and pieces that reflect your mood or general demeanor. If you prioritize lifestyle and personality you will make something truly unique that no one can really call you out on unless they hate your character.

[Anonymous No.15001165]

>>15001161
This bait is high-tier

[Anonymous No.15001169]

>>15001157
Oh totally, this is the first thread I've actually posted in in weeks. There's not a lot of meaningful discourse here.

[Anonymous No.15001506]

30 year old boomer here. I've fallen for all the memes over the years and cringe at a lot of the shit i wore.

for me it didn't come together until maybe when I was 25-26 ish and pretty much wear the same/similar stuff since.

I would say the biggest thing is to not look at waywt and inspo threads too much because you will see too many things you like and will make you want too incorporate too many things that it becomes a larp.

I would say look more at the cringe threads to know what looks bad and goofy and what doesn't suit certain people.

I would highly agree with other people about getting into proper hobbies (no /fa/ and consooming is not a proper hobby) and the practical clothing you wear during those activities may creep into you everyday clothing and feel more natural to you.

[Anonymous No.15001531]

>>14999741
Just wear whatever you like.

[Anonymous No.15001590]

>>15001531

Fail

[Anonymous No.15001595]

>>14999741
You only buy and wear what you like and don't follow and major trends.

[Anonymous No.15001597]

>>15001145
w2c similar sunglasses?

[Anonymous No.15003251]

>>15001072
God isn't real, so lets not entertain fiction here. I do agree with what you meant though, but it's a terrible metaphor, absolutely unoriginal.

[Anonymous No.15003268]

>>15001531
Based

[Anonymous No.15003270]

>>14999741
Buying what you like is pretty shit advice, so dont listen to the people saying that. Heres the thing, I LIKE sneakers and think theyre pretty cool, but for my lifestyle, it doesnt really make sense to have 1 or 2 pairs even if I like stuff. you need to find what pieces, colors, styles, etc you naturally gravitate towards and narrow it down from there. Clothing is a tool, but do you want a jumbled mess of tools, or do you want a cohesive, comprehensive toolbox that functions well with what youre doing?

[Anonymous No.15003279]

Well first you blow 5-10 racks on Rick Owens raf simons yohji giudi margiela Ann d, and then you will be unique and very original of course. These "garments" are now your new personality, so by default they are authentic. Don't forget to flex your dark drapey silhouettes on basic internet peasants who cant get how esoteric and Avant garde you are. This is your new lifestyle, so enjoy but don't smile or else you won't seem dark and tortured enough.

Tldr: buy Rick Owens and change your personality and lifestyle to fit your clothes instead of the other way around

[Anonymous No.15003539]

Don't be afraid to experiment with different clothing styles. I think there's a point at which you have to stop intellectualizing it and just see what works.