/wt/ - Watch Thread: Cartier Beauties Edition

[Anonymous No.14930232]

This thread is about the appreciation of quality watches, please limit Vostok posting.

Guides:

> Watch essentials 102: https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV
> Purchasing used watches: https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2
> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE
> Guide for poorfag plebs: https://imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK

Should I buy this fashion brand watch?

> Scroll through this album first:
> https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

Should I buy this Seiko watch?

> SKX007 (or 008 or 013) is a standard and should be a part of every collection.

"Suggest a watch for me."

> just b urself :)


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>>14918430

[Anonymous No.14930251]

First for the SEX013

[Anonymous No.14930268]

>>14930251
Wild shitter appeared

[Anonymous No.14930275]

I was hoping /wt/ died when no one made a new thread

[Anonymous No.14930277]

>>14930232
So what's /wt/ verdict on Cartier? Many people say that these are watches for people who don't know a crap about high watchmaking and their prices are inflated by the brand name. Do Santoses/Tanks have in house movements?

[Anonymous No.14930302]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA i really want this watch but im a poorfag. are there any other that look like this for considerably less?

[Anonymous No.14930312]

>>14930302

[Anonymous No.14930344]

>>14930312
i was uh thinking something like $200

[Anonymous No.14930351]

>>14930302
>muh Heisenberg watch
Don't fall for it, it sucks. Save up for a Daytona or at least MOTFM. (pic unrelated)

[Anonymous No.14930367]

>>14930275

[Anonymous No.14930623]

>>14930302
>>14930351
I concur, fuck tag heuer

[Anonymous No.14930661]

First for Hamilton.

[Anonymous No.14930663]

>>14930344
Yema has some of their Mecaquartz watches on sale for under $200
https://en.yema.com/pages/sales-2020

[Anonymous No.14930670]

>>14930623
Is Tag just a "higher end" Invicta at this point?

[Anonymous No.14930713]

>some dude is selling a Heuer Bund for $2.5k locally
>the lowest on chrono24 is a bit less than $4k
Am I going to get scammed? What are the risks? What do I look out for? Is it stolen?

[Anonymous No.14930725]

Is this watch a replica? Looks like it to me, but I have two guys, including the owner, telling me it's genuine.
1/2

[Anonymous No.14930729]

>>14930725
2/2

[Anonymous No.14930732]

>>14930663
https://en.yema.com/products/yema-flygraf-heritage-yfly2018

Holy shit this looks SO GOOD. But why doesn't it have a display case back and why is it 15.35 thick, that's insane.

[Anonymous No.14930736]

>>14930725
https://www.clubreplica.co.uk/Discount/breitling/breitling-bentley-replica-watches-3591/

[Anonymous No.14930748]

>>14930663
these look good, im torn between this and Asphalte II

[Anonymous No.14930780]

>>14930725
Of course it's a replica. Trying to replace a tourbillon with an open heart...

[Anonymous No.14930790]

I bought a vintage Seamaster this weekend.

[Anonymous No.14930799]

Thank god the threads back, post Vostok.

[Anonymous No.14930804]

>>14930799
oh my fucking god delete this thread

[Anonymous No.14930810]

>>14930251
based

[Anonymous No.14930870]

>>14930790
Pic?

[Anonymous No.14930872]

>>14930804

[Anonymous No.14930879]

I fucking love this thing

[Anonymous No.14931006]

Is this the perfect watch?

[Anonymous No.14931016]

>>14931006
is that the Benrus Vietnam watch?

[Anonymous No.14931041]

>>14931016
Ya one variant. There were different specs made for pilots and ground troops by Benrus, Hamilton, Bulova, Timex, Westclox.

[Anonymous No.14931055]

>>14931006
I have one but it's in really poor condition. Local watchmaker said he could open it up and have a look but that it would be expensive and he couldn't guarantee he could fix it. I keep it as a collectible now more than an actual watch.

[Anonymous No.14931076]

>>14930870
Its coming in the mail tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.14931086]

>>14931076
what seamaster?

[Anonymous No.14931133]

>>14931086
168.0022

[Anonymous No.14931154]

>>14931133
acceptable

[Anonymous No.14931157]

>>14931154
With the orange hand and concentric circle style polished dial.

[Anonymous No.14931165]

>>14931157
The only shitty part is no band (just a leather strap) and Omega bands cost as much as the watch.

[Anonymous No.14931193]

>tfw you put the 1st set of scratches on the hesalite crystal

feels liberating man.

[Anonymous No.14931205]

>>14931165
you're not buying an original omega band for a 168 seamaster

[Anonymous No.14931290]

>>14930277
I think a 80-90s Louis Cartier Tank is the way to go (but I think they are mineral glass) or the new Santos no date. Your statement is right but there is always the exception. I think you need to have a few watches first and the Tank or Santos would be the 3rd or 4th, I feel the same way about IWC, GS, Zenith and JLC to a lessor degree.

>>14930302
I had it, wears very large on a 7 inch wrist, in the end the fact it only had a 60min chronograph drove me mad, 12hr sub dial or nothing on a chronograph.

[Anonymous No.14931301]

>>14930277
All about Cartier Tank Louis because Hedi Slimane wears it.

[None !IGORsW/P/E No.14931307]

For me, it's Breguet.
Someday I'm goona win a jackpot and locate this watch and buy it.

[Anonymous No.14931354]

>>14930277
Imo Cartier watches are less of horological interest than they are jewelry

[Anonymous No.14931389]

>>14931290
Stop posting this repulsive shit

[Anonymous No.14931459]

>>14931389
Not him, but if you're telling him to stop posting his watches you have to post yours first.

[Anonymous No.14931508]

>>14930748
>>14930312
I saw a thread on watchuseek today with the same band and the guy refused to include it in the sale because it's no longer made. No shit, it looks like crap.

[Anonymous No.14931517]

>>14931459
No I don't.

[Anonymous No.14931518]

Red pill me on the Datejust 41 and Explorer II

[Anonymous No.14931524]

Got a new band so I can finally start wearing this.

[Anonymous No.14931525]

Okay gang help me out. I'm going to buy my first real watch after seeing this general often and decided on a few things

>diver or all-occasion
>39mm size or less
>11mm thick or less
>around $200
>not a "homage" or fake

The closest I can find to my criteria is the Oris65 Diver in 36mm but it costs way too much ($1500) even though it's made for like $100 in China.

Anyone think of something else? I'm willing to forego the diver spec but the size is something I need to have.

[Anonymous No.14931536]

>>14931525
Heres the kind of shit you can get for $200
>https://www.watchrecon.com/?price_end=200

What you should do instead is research and decide what watch you really want, regardless of cost, then save for it. Wear a casio for now if you need a watch.

[Anonymous No.14931560]

>>14931536
>maybe anon knows what he's talking about
>check site
>40% of the listings are just shitty straps
>50% of the listings are 0 bid Rolex, IWC, big names
>10% of the listings are actual watches in that price range with no way to filter by size

What a worthless site

[Anonymous No.14931565]

So is this it?

Is /wt/ finally dead?

What song will be at its funeral?

[Anonymous No.14931585]

>>14931565
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwk5OUII9Vc

[Anonymous No.14931595]

>>14931525
All I could find is lady's diver. People won't know if you change it to a black rubber strap that is for ladies.
https://phoiboswatch.com/products/phoibos-sea-nymph-300m-lady-diver-watch-px021c-black.html

[Anonymous No.14931628]

>>14930232
Re the Cartier watch trend. I've seen a few post pics of the Seiko SUP880, but never on the wrist.

Here's a shot of mine just now. Looks pretty similar to a tank if you like the look but are tight on cash. I like it

[Anonymous No.14931660]

https://forums.watchuseek.com/f2/i-promise-unique-worth-look-if-not-you-can-rag-me-comments-5106679.html

What do you think?

[Anonymous No.14931664]

>>14931628

dimension wise how do you think it compares to the Cartier tank Louis?

[Anonymous No.14931666]

the finishing looks like 50 dollar mallcrap

I also don't like how most of the watch is from a royal oak fake factory

[Anonymous No.14931687]

>>14931664
Less square. The metal is thinner and less rounded as well. You're also not getting blue on the crown

[Anonymous No.14931699]

>>14931560
It's actually a really useful site but the price filter doesn't work too well. Which is understandable given that it's just compiling random people's posts on various forums.

And it demonstrates a good point, for $200 basically you can get a decent strap.

[Anonymous No.14931736]

Reminder that Casio is the most based brand because their prices actually reflect the materials unlike your ““““““““““““““““““swiss””””””””””””””””””” brands

[Anonymous No.14931749]

>>14931006
Been thinking it is for a while. When I find a nice example I'll get one.

[Anonymous No.14931754]

>>14931389
At least someone's posting oc. Nigger.

[Anonymous No.14931759]

>>14931736
Gonna have to agree here. Casio is a fantastic company who makes amazing pianos and synths also. IF you can get past the name brand and stop being snobs. IF all you care about is virtue signalling you wealth though Casio can't do that.

[Anonymous No.14931796]

>>14931565
You wish. The weekend is over, now its back to hate on disgusting NATO trash and mall shitters.

[Anonymous No.14931802]

>>14931525
Aefd530 by alba, a subsidiary of seiko
38.5 x 11.3mm
Uses a seiko solar movement.
It's only $120 so use the leftover money to replace the shitty resin band

[Anonymous No.14931803]

>>14930277
They have a place as an innovative designers with some historically significant designs.

[Anonymous No.14931808]

I'm gonna go ahead and say it. There's nothing more cucked in this world than buying a Tudor. Imagine forever living in the shadow of Rolex. Imagine always being the "other" choice, the poor man's Rolex. The disdain when you explain what Tudor is. Imagine wilfully giving money to the brand designing their watches like shit just so they don't canibalise the main brand's sales. They know the snowflake hands look like dogshit. They know they'd devastate the entry luxury price point with actually competent designs, but then nobody would cough up the cash for a Rolex and why would they do that when they can just piggy ride off of it's success. They even purposely withheld the Tudor Sub back in the 50s just so Rolex could take the credit. Imagine wishing "Damn, I wish this was a Submariner..." every time you look at your wrist. And imagine paying several grand for that reminder. Buying a Tudor truly is suffering.

[Anonymous No.14931823]

>>14931389
Every shit post ever, 0 wrist shot.....

[Anonymous No.14931855]

Just a question, do you regulate your mechanical watches? Like you synch it to your quartz and see it gained a few minutes after ome weeks and get a strong urge to pop a caseback and adjust it?

[Anonymous No.14931856]

The new strap is pretty nice, it's one of those aliexplress "safety belt" Nato's. Feels really soft compared to usual ruggedness of other straps.

[Anonymous No.14931857]

>>14931808
Big if true

[Anonymous No.14931873]

>>14931808
Based

[Anonymous No.14931889]

>>14931823
I get that it's the only Rolex you could afford, but that watch is about 6mm bigger than its properly designed proportions. It looks stupid.

[Anonymous No.14931900]

>>14931808
You're retarded. Tudors have always been workhorse watches, that's why the US Navy issued them in SEALs in Vietnam and the UK issued them to its Arctic explorers in the 50s. No one cares about your mountain jew conceptions of "luxury" and "price point", they're just solid watches that you can wear today without looking like an uppity tryhard nigger.

[Anonymous No.14931901]

>>14931855
Of course. If my watch can't keep time to within 10 seconds a day, I work on it until it can.

[Anonymous No.14931903]

I dont know a lot about watches, maybe that is the reason, but: please explain the appeal of "square" watches...i don't understand on what occasion could they be worn, they dont really look aesthetic...maybe im just really ignorant and dont know something?

[Anonymous No.14931905]

Hello frens, I hope you enjoy your fine timepiece to start your work week on a right foot.

[Anonymous No.14931928]

>>14931808
Imagine paying over $8000 for a niggerized maxi Submariner. Or almost as much for a 10+ year old non ugly one probably with a shit stamped bracelet. Modern Rolex buyers are true bugmen. No wonder chinks want them

[Anonymous No.14931935]

>>14931903

[Anonymous No.14931938]

>>14931808
Is this pasta

[Anonymous No.14931943]

>>14931938
It's about to be baby

[Anonymous No.14931956]

This was a great purchase. You should all get one.

[Anonymous No.14931972]

>>14931956
Based. Love mine.

[Anonymous No.14932121]

>>14931525
Answer me watch gang

[Anonymous No.14932131]

>>14932121
Just get a vostok amphibia with one of the smaller case sizes, or a seiko skx013 if you're willing to push the budget a little (it's discontinued so the prices are inflated, but you can still find some for ~$250)

[None !IGORsW/P/E No.14932154]

>>14931307
my beater 66-9990 I got a decade ago for $50

[Anonymous No.14932164]

>>14932121
Look at Orient idk

[None !IGORsW/P/E No.14932194]

>>14932154
can prolly fetch $200+ nowadays
It's too old man for me at this point in my life. I wanna switch to a younger style.

[None !IGORsW/P/E No.14932197]

>>14932154
can prolly fetch $200+ nowadays (I just had it repaired and serviced for $50)
It's too old man for me at this point in my life. I wanna switch to a younger style.

[Anonymous No.14932198]

Everyone hates my new watch but I dig it.

[Anonymous No.14932207]

Meranom vs zenitar for buying vostok?

[Anonymous No.14932208]

>>14931956

How was the wait time for getting yours? I’ve read online that a lot of times it’s 5-6 months from ADs. I called one near me and they said it would be 6-8 weeks, but I don’t want to put down a deposit and then find out I won’t get it for 6 months

[Anonymous No.14932218]

>>14932121
What wrist size do you have? The orient Mako/Ray is 41,5 mm but it look smaller while wearing it. I think it even looks better than the seiko skx013 on a smaller wrist.

[Anonymous No.14932248]

>>14932207
As far as I'm aware meranom is the official supplier

[Anonymous No.14932262]

>>14932198
nice fucking shitter anon

[Anonymous No.14932278]

Should I get a 36mm explorer, thoughts on the watch?

[Anonymous No.14932285]

>>14932278
They're not worth the price people want for them now

[Anonymous No.14932289]

>>14932208
You might get lucky anon, I found an AD near me with one in stock. A guy was there looking at it when I walked in, another guy came in and asked about it when I was looking at it, and when they were sizing it for me a lady asked about it. They're in high demand

[Anonymous No.14932300]

>>14932278
Are any Sports Rolexs now, they make good watches but things have gone crazy all I wanted was a no date sub, I have moved onto other brands, JLC and Zenith is good buying now.

[Anonymous No.14932393]

>>14930799
>>14930872
I'm gonna do it you filthy slave cunters.
I'm gonna try and relume that boctok that had the lume pip fall out after a week that I talked about last thread.

Ordered some C3 Superluminova (that costs more than the watch lel shit's expensive).
Now the waiting game begins.
Will have to order a spare dial in case I fuck that shit up, which is likely.
Last time I had to do finicky detail work like this was when I was into /tg/ shit way over a decade ago.

[Anonymous No.14932396]

>>14932300

[Anonymous No.14932408]

>>14932393
Hey man, micromechanical talent can bloom on the battlefield.

[Anonymous No.14932539]

>>14930725
I don't know nothing about breitling, but it has to be fake, like the other anon said, its simply an open heart trying to look like a tourbillon watch

[Anonymous No.14932542]

>>14930277
I would love to have an cartier crash, I don't care if they are girly, I want one soo bad.

[Anonymous No.14932570]

>>14930725
Besides the exposed escapement issue (I fucking hate that insipid marketing term "open heart"), there's the issue with the digits in the date window: look how fucking crooked they are.

[Anonymous No.14932599]

>>14930277
>Many people say that these are watches for people who don't know a crap about high watchmaking and their prices are inflated by the brand name
That's more or less true to a certain extent. But you don't have to have some kind of sperg's notion of "muh high horologologol" to want a time telling piece of jewelry, which is what every single wristwatch above a certain price is.

Cartier at least compared to some other brands has some standout, signature models. If you like that look then that's that. That's what you buy if that's what you want.
There's little "horological merit" in these basic models, but then again that's true of almost all watches below shit like grand complications.
>Do Santoses/Tanks have in house movements?
No. They'll probably be getting movements one day from other brands in the Richemont portfolio.

Remember that Cartier is a jewelry house first and a watchmaking house second, unlike the dedicated watch brands that you're familiar with.
They're in that niche with Bvlgari, Piaget and Chopard.

A note about value:
There were some articles a year or so ago talking about how in 2017 Richemont (Cartier), had to buy back 250 million worth of watches and scrapped them to prevent them from being sold at ultra discount by retailers and flooding the market, devaluing the brand like all fuck.

Now, sure this period coincided with a lot of shit going on in the watch market that caused a mini crisis (Chinese laws clamping down on gift corruption, which was very frequently luxury watches etc.), but still, it puts into perspective just how valuable these things are and perhaps how much they really should cost.

Have a look at resale on whatever models you're interested in, see the general used market price and then decide whether or not you'd want to pay the price for a new one.

IMO, if it's a square watch a JLC reverso is much more interesting, in every way. Costlier though. I don't like the dials on many cartiers; look cheaply painted.

[Anonymous No.14932606]

>>14932599
Correction:
just looked it up. Holy shit they had to buy back and subsequently destroy £400m of watches.
And this won't be the most expensive artsy fartsy pieces either; this'll be the basic bread and butter models, lots of quartz and likely a metric fuck tonne of ladies quartz.

[Anonymous No.14932633]

>>14931205
They are out there but they cost as much as the watch. No, I won't be buying one, but they do exist.

[Anonymous No.14932650]

>>14931354
You have a laughably inadequate understanding of the brand. They have been making fascinating watches with unique and fantastic movements for the last decade ranging from ultra thin Louis Cartier tanks to full blown flying tourbillons.

To argue they’re a jewelry brand when they have made watches far more advanced and iconic than at least 90% of pure watch brands is a meme perpetuated by the ignorant.

[Anonymous No.14932665]

>>14932599
>Do Santoses/Tanks have in house movements?
>No. They'll probably be getting movements one day from other brands in the Richemont portfolio.

The Santos models that came out a few years ago do have in-house movements as do many of the higher end tanks. They have been making in house movements for quite a while now.

[Anonymous No.14932666]

Help me brehs, I don't know why I dig the Cartier Pasha (35mm) so much
>>14932599
>>14932606
High quality posts

[Anonymous No.14932692]

>>14932665
Oh shit I had no idea. I just assumed they were still using stock and modified ETA like virtually everyone else with a renamed calibre movement.

That practice gets real old:
>oh this model is fitted with our super duper explicit calibré de 32454352343-a supermatic
>find out it's a stock fucking sellita with an engraved rotor attached.
wow
such in-house
muh horoogolgol

How much of what they do high end wise, >>14932650
tourbillons etc., is just JLC's handiwork?

[Anonymous No.14932694]

>>14932665
>>14932606
>>14932599
>>14931290
Thanks anons!

[Anonymous No.14932714]

>>14932692
>I just assumed they were still using stock and modified ETA
> Mystery double tourbillon and minute repeater
You know nothing

[Anonymous No.14932840]

I feel like I've pidgeonholed myself into wearing Casio digitals exclusively. My wardrobe is heavily techwear inspired and I live the kind of lifestile where I need a watch but also need it to be able to take getting smacked against a doorframe from time to time without issue. I also want to get an analog watch to mix it up. What do?

[Anonymous No.14932848]

>>14932840
I've had my omega PO for about 2 and half months not babying it at work and it has taken the banging against shelves and shakes really well. unless you literally beat your watch with a hammer every day most well made pieces will work out.

[Anonymous No.14932849]

>>14932840
Analog gshock or victorinox

[Anonymous No.14932860]

>>14932840
vOsToK

[Anonymous No.14932864]

>>14932840
Suunto

[Anonymous No.14932911]

>>14932840
Seiko 7a28 sounds up your alley

[Anonymous No.14932941]

Imagine having an automatic watch that doesn't keep time to 2spd.

Just fucking imagine it....

[Anonymous No.14932946]

>>14930872
Heineken the watch

[Anonymous No.14932970]

>>14930312
Which resources should I browse to find more watches like this one?

[Anonymous No.14932980]

Leddit shitter coming through

[Anonymous No.14932994]

>>14932941
Doesn't appear to be chronometer certified so that accuracy probably won't last.

[Anonymous No.14933041]

>>14932994
2 years and counting

[Anonymous No.14933052]

>>14930232
My dad gave me a watch that is 99% similar except the brand is "universal geneve", is this worth anything?

[Anonymous No.14933062]

>>14933052
>universal geneve
post it faggot HURR DURR just fucking kill yourself and your dad is a faggot

[Anonymous No.14933068]

The one thing I agree with Molyneux on - you should cut your parents off, grow the fuck up, burn that bridge.

[Anonymous No.14933070]

Your mom is the toxic cunt who's been sabotaging your life. Manipulative dumb bitch

[Anonymous No.14933077]

>>14933052
UG made good watches, post it anon

[Anonymous No.14933200]

Post women wearing men's watches.

[Anonymous No.14933278]

Anyone has a Mako or Ray I? I can only get those on my shitty semi communist country, so no II or USA version. I know they don't have hacking or hand winding, but are they good besides that?

[Anonymous No.14933421]

>>14933278
Good is very relative. If you like the look and the specs suit you, then go for it.

I feel like the original Mako/Rays don't really hold up value-wise, or resale-wise and you could find something a little better on the used market.

[Anonymous No.14933425]

literally the only real watch posted in this thread was the rolex guy

[Anonymous No.14933449]

>>14933425
One shekel has been added to your account.

[Anonymous No.14933470]

What's your next purchase going to be?

I'm picking up one of these tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.14933496]

>>14933470
literally the only real watch posted in this thread

[Anonymous No.14933500]

>>14933470
I've got a ``Soviet'' stunner in the mail. Gonna be in my hands on Friday, if all goes well. Some straps from CNS gonna land in my mailbox before then also, most likely.

Anticipating seeing over the weekend whether it'll autowind enough during a day spent at the computer to keep itself running, and other such silly measurements such as deviation per day...

[Anonymous No.14933512]

Literally came to /fa/ just to show off my new datejust

[Anonymous No.14933521]

>>14933512
v nice.

[Anonymous No.14933523]

>>14933512

god i hate the cyclops so much

[Anonymous No.14933542]

>>14933523
A valid criticism. It's sort of hard to tell the date unless i'm looking directly at it, which can be annoying sometimes. Fuck it though, it's a rolex!

[Anonymous No.14933589]

>>14930790

[Anonymous No.14933633]

>>14933542
Before I ever had a close look at a Rolex I thought the magnifier was like embedded in the crystal and flush with the surface. It would be a lot cooler if they could do that.

[Anonymous No.14933723]

Haven't owned an apple watch since the ipod classic way back in school, looking forward to beating the shit out of this used eBay series 4

[Anonymous No.14933730]

Thoughts on this? Thinking of getting it either on the bracelet pictured or a leather strap

[Anonymous No.14933766]

>>14932840
buy a fields watch desu

[Anonymous No.14933785]

>>14931905
nice watch. too bad not gw5000 tho

[Anonymous No.14933829]

how do you guys feel about omega?

[Anonymous No.14933841]

>>14933052
Probably a few hundred at least, could be more.

[Anonymous No.14933847]

>>14933470
Yikes.

[Anonymous No.14933855]

>>14933785
>gw5000
What's the difference?

[Anonymous No.14933869]

Where do I get high quality Chinese fakes?

[Anonymous No.14933871]

>>14932970
ebay

[Anonymous No.14933875]

>>14932980
What bracelet is that?

[Anonymous No.14933887]

>>14933470
based entry level automatics

[Anonymous No.14933895]

>>14933829
That tachymeter thing seems like the most useless scale.
>that thing I for some reason needed to time took thirty seconds so how fast was it going, oh 120 units per hour! Cool!!

[Anonymous No.14933897]

>>14933829
Who doesn't like omega? I'm more of a tag guy but omega is also the business

[Anonymous No.14933903]

>>14933897
>I'm more of a tag guy
yikes

[Anonymous No.14933913]

>>14933903
At least im not a shitter guy like u

[Anonymous No.14933915]

>>14933730
Silver dials and silver or gold hands have a real legibility problem senpai.
I wouldn't recommend it on that basis alone.

[Anonymous No.14933921]

Dad gave me this, is it a shitter? I'm not a big fan of sub knockoffs. I think I'd like it more if the band was two-toned.

[Anonymous No.14933924]

What are some cheap datejust like watches with a jubilee bracelet?

[Anonymous No.14933948]

>>14933921
>>14933913
how does /wt/ define what a shitter is?
> inb4 anything i don't like is a shitter

[Anonymous No.14933967]

>>14933948
>Anonymous
>not the first post from this ip
hello james

[Anonymous No.14933975]

>>14933948
>how does /wt/ define what a shitter is?
anything i don't like is a shitter

[Anonymous No.14933979]

>>14933948
Anything not Swiss is an easy target. Most "Swiss" too are susceptible since they are owned by huge conglomerates now who don't give a shit about secretly producing parts in Asian sweatshops. Anything without an in-house movement because reasons.

Everyone will eventually take the vintage pill and realize all modern watches are shitters regardless of quality or price. It's a frivolous "luxury" market of purposeless designs, the type of thing that women buy into but men are supposed to see beyond. Thank God most men are stupid and my quality vintage is still relatively affordable.

[Anonymous No.14934038]

>>14933967
that was my second post, here >>14933766 is my first post in this thread

[Anonymous No.14934079]

based or cring?

[Anonymous No.14934088]

>>14934079
basing

[Anonymous No.14934107]

>>14934079
Appropriate if you're 11 and a young Republican

[Anonymous No.14934141]

QUESTION /wt/:
How much stock do you put into resale value of a watch?
I've got a small collection of watches and a lot of them are just ones I like and/or make me feel happy to wear, which are pretty cheap so it's fine (under $1000).
But when it comes to more expensive watches I always hesitate when it comes to watches that have bad resale or soft prices on the second hand market.

How about you /wt/?

[Anonymous No.14934146]

I love the look of this watch, but it's a noname brand, does anyone know the equivalent from a real brand?

[Anonymous No.14934148]

>>14934146
timex

[Anonymous No.14934153]

>>14934141
Almost none to be honest. Whatever watch I buy or want to buy eventually, is something I don't ever plan on selling. Though that's not necessarily a hard as stone rule. I might sell my other divers whenever I get a BB58.

[Anonymous No.14934199]

>>14934148
No, really.

[Anonymous No.14934227]

>>14930251
based
these are discontinued now

[Anonymous No.14934233]

>>14934199
Hamilton is a real brand

[Anonymous No.14934268]

>>14932289
i hate this watch

[Anonymous No.14934271]

>>14933875
https://www.strapcode.com/collections/replacement-band-for-seiko-alpinist/products/metal-ss-bcl20-b065

[Anonymous No.14934274]

>>14933512
We have the same model (different bracelet though) I'm >>14930251 enjoy your ROWLECKS kang

[Anonymous No.14934287]

>>14930879
nice watch anon

[Anonymous No.14934288]

>>14934141
>>14934141
The longer I collect the more I just want rarity and superb quality, and that usually goes hand in hand with cost but also resale value. I buy everything used so most of the time I can break even on a sale. If I'm pressed to sell something quickly then I usually take a small hit and I don't mind giving someone a deal. I haven't sat on anything long enough to make a decent profit but if I was more disciplined I could.

It's funny a couple years ago I thought I'd never own a thousand dollar watch, that that was just ridiculous. Now I have one worth 3k and it already feels a little cheap compared to others I have my eye on. But I'm also poor so I try to find hidden gems of the vintage world that collectors haven't honed in on yet.

[Anonymous No.14934292]

>>14934141
>>14934288
I should add that its addicting to be getting higher quality and more prestigious watches and improving my collection, but there's a hard limit I think around 5k, where the watch becomes something too valuable to wear without fear.. fear of loss or theft but also of just dinging it up too much. Sadly most of the really fantastic vintage watches are way past that point, but overall 99% of them are not. I've had to convince myself that it's better to just ignore that 1% even if I could drop 10k on a watch like it's nothing, just because they aren't practical tools anymore and I like to wear anything I have.

[Anonymous No.14934300]

Who is your favorite watch youtuber?

For me it's Tiny bulbasaur

[Anonymous No.14934306]

>>14933829
>there are people out there RIGHT NOW who dont have a dick at 12.
Tragic

[Anonymous No.14934307]

>Seiko keeps discontinuing their iconic popular models
>all my Seiko stuff is now $500+ even though I bought them $200 max

I didn't expect this but okay

[Anonymous No.14934308]

>>14932941
That looks like some $50 ali brand

[Anonymous No.14934315]

>>14934306
Where is the minute counter though?

[Anonymous No.14934319]

>>14934315
The right subdial counts both hours and minutes. The hands are just overlapping each other in that pic.

[Anonymous No.14934322]

>>14934300
They're all shit sadly. Either mentally ill normies like Archie or soiboi faggots like bulbasaur and the Rat. The only one I can moderately stand is Jack Forster from hodinkee.

[Anonymous No.14934328]

>IG feed full of trash microbrand shitters
There is so much garbage there. My friends know I'm into watches so they always send me links to these too and it's just such a shame.

[Anonymous No.14934329]

>>14934319
So does the minute counter count to 12 or 60? Either way that's kind of bizarrely hard to interpret.

[Anonymous No.14934331]

>>14934300
>>14934322
i like london watch collector. he doesn't show his face and his collection is expensive af

[Anonymous No.14934340]

>>14931290
based explorer ii

[Anonymous No.14934342]

>>14934331
>absolutely predictable collection, no vintage, creepy frog accent

No thanks. But I forgot the most based choice, mark lovick aka watch repair channel.

[Anonymous No.14934343]

>>14934300
I used to like Just One More Watch, but he's a bit too samey for my liking these days. You can only watch him gush over some microbrand so many times.
I like Watchfinder&Co, it's comfy viewing. I just don't care for Youtube watch personalities like The Rat, Bulbasaur, etc. Archie is okay in that a lot of his advice is actually pretty good but you do have to sift through his 10 mins of repetiton.

[Anonymous No.14934344]

>>14934292
Aren't you concerned about needing to service vintage watches and getting assblasted by the cost? I'd be so worried that an old watch would have problems that I wouldn't be able to pick up at first purchase.

[Anonymous No.14934347]

>>14934340
>tfw polar exp ii on aussie ebay for $8k
>data dropped and couldn't bid last minute
Fucking Vodafone.

[Anonymous No.14934350]

What is the top tier watch for $150 or less?

Can I get a gold automatic at that price?

[Anonymous No.14934354]

>>14934343
>Watchfinder&Co
Approaching decent, but very clickbaity and pedantic most of the time.

[Anonymous No.14934362]

>>14934350
>$150
I dont know if the Bambino meme is still a thing, but they're "fine" for the price. Shitty lug width limits straps, but they're dressy autos which look more expensive than they are to people who don't know better.

[Anonymous No.14934368]

>>14934350
You can get one, not too sure why you'd want a cheap gold watch (which isn't actual gold) but it's possible.

[Anonymous No.14934369]

>>14934344
I am almost to the point where I can service a movement, I just haven't taken the step of investing in a few of the specialized tools and lubricants. Many issues can be diagnosed with simple research on forums. A movement is almost never beyond repair, a good watchmaker can fabricate parts or modify things to make due.

That said, one of the considerations of vintage is the movement... how common and reliable it was, if it's prone to certain issues, how plentiful parts are. Many of not most vintage movements are easy to service, no different from a modern one. Some of the higher end chrono and in-house movements.., yeah you will get ass blasted. It's better to stay away from the watches that shared movements with iconic pieces, like vintage submariners, because most of them were cannibalized for parts by now. But on the whole it's not a big concern. I just paid 180 to have my 1930 Longines serviced and it should be good for another decade.

[Anonymous No.14934370]

https://www.oris.ch/en/watch/oris-prodiver-chronograph/01-774-7727-7154-set

What kind of a brand is Oris, is this a mall shitter?

[Anonymous No.14934374]

>>14934370
>is this a mall shitter?
I'll be damned if it doesnt look like one. Oris is a company with apparently some prestige and historical significance that they try to flex, but I don't think anyone really cares. I feel like only eurotrash wear them.

[Anonymous No.14934380]

>>14934350
>What is the top tier watch for $150 or less?
A stolen one

[Anonymous No.14934392]

Fondled this 80's coke kingpin Omega yesterday. The bracelet was way too large and can't adjust it, otherwise it would have been perfect.

[Anonymous No.14934393]

>>14934292
>>14934288
Lots of wisdom here.

[Anonymous No.14934405]

>>14934370
They used to be a good value but then they jacked up their prices to $1000+ even though they immediately sell for 50% after you buy it.

Trash brand.

[Anonymous No.14934409]

>>14934370
>RRP AUD$6500
Heck.
Can it be both? Oris is a brand with some name value but it's fucking overpriced and not worth it since you'll prorbably want to resell it and move onto something better.

[Anonymous No.14934439]

>>14934409
>something better.
Like what?

[Anonymous No.14934512]

>>14934300
I wish pushing people like Bald-ass-r and Theo and Harris in lockers would still be acceptable. I like Jody from Just One More Watch. He's pretty unbiased and a spec monster, while most others are brand cocksuckers. As another anon stated his content is a bit samey and I'm not into diver microbrands to begin with. I also like Tim from Caseback watches, actually fun guy and cares about the aesthetic aspect of watches, that and his kraut autism. Lastly, Federico Talks Hamburgers, he's a fat wop who you'd expect to sell you cocaine on a Florida mall but guy also seems pretty chill and I always listen to his videos when doing stuff around the house. Most other watch guys are boring goobers.

[Anonymous No.14934545]

>>14933924
Bump

[Anonymous No.14934551]

>>14933841
it's gold plated I think and my dad said he paid 500 quid for it
would get a black leather band for it and wear it more often instead of my casio a158w but it doesn't keep the time anymore

[Anonymous No.14934597]

>>14934300
>tailors his own clothing
>modified 30's styling
>is a breddy good jazz guitarist
>made his own leather briefcase; soon, watchstraps
>almost exclusively talks about vintage and non-modern watches
>doesn't go over the same tired territory as EVERY FUCKING ONE ELSE (subs, RO's, nautili etc., etc.)
>not just the regular CONSOOOMER channel
>emphasis on dress(ier) watches thank fuck
>looks like sigmund freud
What's not to like?

[Anonymous No.14934602]

>>14934551
Yeah it's about that.
https://www.wristclassics.com/product-page/kopie-von-universal-geneve-nos-tank-gold-steel

The real thing when it comes to a watches value is it's only worth what someone is willing to pay. Keep it and cherish it.

[Anonymous No.14934603]

>>14934512
>Lastly, Federico Talks Hamburgers, he's a fat wop who you'd expect to sell you cocaine on a Florida mall but guy also seems pretty chill and I always listen to his videos when doing stuff around the house. Most other watch guys are boring goobers.
fatterico has been outed as having bought and sold fakes whilst he was working (for piaget) lmao
what a fat piece of shit

[Anonymous No.14934606]

>tfw one of my co-workers has a Fauxlex and is passing it off as a real watch
Do I let him believe he got a Rolex Sub for $500, or do I expose him?

[Anonymous No.14934607]

>Bvlgari will be releasing a steel octo this year
2020 is a wrap the hottest watch of the year has already been announced.
I wish I could actually afford it

[Anonymous No.14934608]

>>14934606
Expose him in front of a crowd of peers lmao
But do it in a non-autistic way.

[Anonymous No.14934610]

>>14934597
I fucking despise him because he wouldnt sell me one of his watches for a good price

Emotions aside, he has a godtier channel

[Anonymous No.14934611]

>>14934607
>AU $20k for the titanium
Pretty impressive

[Anonymous No.14934614]

>>14934610
>I fucking despise him because he wouldnt sell me one of his watches for a good price
Which watch lol

[Anonymous No.14934619]

>>14934602
that's more or less the same one my dad gave me
wasn't going to sell it,,just didn't know anything about the brand and whatnot

[Anonymous No.14934623]

>>14934603
>>14934603
I can tell Frederico is a sleazebag (not even the cool kind) from one look. You see conman posers like him everywhere in south florida

[Anonymous No.14934624]

>>14934607
I want it so bad

[Anonymous No.14934628]

>>14934614
the one that he always boasts about he gets atleast 1 offer every week

[Anonymous No.14934630]

>>14934628
the absolute god tier watch

[Anonymous No.14934653]

>>14934630
>oris

trash it

[Anonymous No.14934655]

>>14934628
>>14934630
He'll never sell it, as he's explained: he had two, sold one and regretted it and due to his own videos the price has jumped dramatically such that if he did sell he'd never be able to get another one at a price that was worth it.

Funny how a couple of vids about a watch virtually nobody gave a fuck about before could have such an effect on price, and I'm sure they had an effect. The channel doesn't even have that many subs, relatively speaking.

[Anonymous No.14934658]

Is this the best flat Earth watch?

[Anonymous No.14934673]

>>14934315
>>14934329

It must be hard for you to tell the time, if you can't understand the sub dial.

[Anonymous No.14934688]

>>14934306
I never really thought much about the Speedmaster co axial models (sort of pricely) but really taken with yours, I've saw it in stock photos before but that sunburst dial look amazing!

[Anonymous No.14934690]

>>14934603
>fatterico has been outed as having bought and sold fakes whilst he was working (for piaget) lmao what a fat piece of shit
Proofs?

[Anonymous No.14934694]

>>14934146
>but it's a noname brand

[Anonymous No.14934696]

>german watches remind you to kill yourself 1 out of 7 days

based

[Anonymous No.14934697]

>>14934597
I've love his channel. I use to like dress watches when I first got into watches. I slowly moved to sports models but I think he was the one that started my swing back to liking dress watches more.

[Anonymous No.14934700]

>>14934697
Boy that watch is huge for your wrinkly ass wrist

[Anonymous No.14934702]

>>14934597
>check him out
>can't understand a word he says
>close tab

[Anonymous No.14934710]

>>14934697
your skin looks dry
need some moisturizer senpai

[Anonymous No.14934724]

>>14934702
Yes, if you're not a native to english it can be very hard for you to understand when someone whose native tongue is not english speaks it.

[Anonymous No.14934749]

>>14934690
the vid that had collected the research of some internet autist detectives is gone, turned private
it had also collected evidence that tgv was plagiarizing vids by other youtubers so i guess it was reported so much by their rabid fans they hid the whole channel instead

what it showed to the best of my recollection:
old rep watch forums posts from a couple of years back (way before fatty was a "known name", so they're not recently planted posts by some fag with a grudge) with a screen name that corresponds to a known screen name of fatty's on legit forums
locations discussed and work discussed correlate with where he was living and what work he was doing at the time
the poster boasts at working for a legit watch manufacturer as they salivate over their fake daytona or whatever
this corresponds to the same city fatty claimed to have been working in for piaget or whoever it was then
list of owned/wanted fake watches coincides with his list at the time of real watches he supposedly owned/wanted, meaning that watches he claimed to have owned in the past were undoubtedly fakes
buy and sell posts on rep forums too by same screen name around the same period

basically, it can't be anyone else

[Anonymous No.14934789]

when i tap on my new automatic watch, it makes this rattling sound. Is it ok?

[Anonymous No.14934807]

Thoughts on the Urchin? It’s WR makes it feel like a toy watch but mods like pic related’s bezel and h/m hands look great

[Anonymous No.14934834]

>>14934789
no and you should throw it away to be safe

[Anonymous No.14934843]

>my new watch and band for it arrive on the same day
Blessed tuesday

[Anonymous No.14934909]

How do you feel about metal g shocks compared to the normal resin ones?

[Anonymous No.14934912]

>>14934909
I don't like the fact that they cost more, as I feel that half the appeal of a g-shock is that it's relatively inexpensive for what you get.
However, metal makes them feel more substantial on the wrist.
So in the end it's all about personal preference really. The coated metals are all going to get scratched to shit like all PVD, so don't expect it to not look beat up compared to a resin variant. Maybe that's a desired look for some.

[Anonymous No.14934971]

>>14934909
I feel like gargling on dick.

[Anonymous No.14934973]

>>14934789
Your hamster is dying inside.
You need to replace it.

[Anonymous No.14935040]

>>14930232
which one of these beauties should i get, /wt/?

[Anonymous No.14935065]

>>14934973
>>14934834
thanks for cool answers, guys! :) :)

[Anonymous No.14935073]

>>14934697
wait, is that blue or black
the seamaster just looks amazing

[Anonymous No.14935137]

My current pairing.

[Anonymous No.14935140]

>>14935137
nice Timex, bro

[Anonymous No.14935231]

>>14935073
Black

[Anonymous No.14935272]

>>14933921
Your dad gave it to you, just be thankful you got it.

[Anonymous No.14935302]

>>14934912
Enjoy your resin rot

[Anonymous No.14935304]

>>14935040
Linus, obviously.

[Anonymous No.14935317]

>>14935302
Time to just replace the watch.
No big deal.

[Anonymous No.14935345]

>>14934673
Didn't say I can't understand it. If you were familiar with watches you would realize that it's extremely odd for a chronograph to display that way and not as easy to quickly read as a normal design with one hand per subdial.

[Anonymous No.14935377]

>>14934749
So what? Posting on rep forums isn't illegal.

[Anonymous No.14935405]

>>14935377
It's like finding out someone posts on furry forums, or brony forums, or is a literal discord tranny as far as the watch hobby goes.

[Anonymous No.14935412]

Arrived today

[Anonymous No.14935457]

are watches like the one in the OP a meme? redpill me on rectangular/square watches

[Anonymous No.14935465]

>>14934370
It's top of the line mall shitter kinda together but slightly below Longines and Tag. Lately they seem to have jumped on the watch hype train and trying to become prestigious. They should stay around at that $2k range and focus on good designs like the sixty five which is quite nice.

[Anonymous No.14935469]

>>14935040
Linus is the most effay, but I like Lucy's football and psychiatrist running gags

[Anonymous No.14935487]

>>14935405
>the watch hobby
Stop assuming people have to fit into your preconceived notions

[Anonymous No.14935492]

>>14935345
Planet Ocean Chronograph, Seamaster Chronograph, Speedmaster Co Axials have all been like that for years and years. Yes I is different to other brands but it is a quick or not quicker, you don't have to read a 30 mins sub dial (is it the first past or second, look at hr sub and back at mins) it's a 60min sub with hours like any anolog dial even.

[Anonymous No.14935511]

>>14934710
ewwwww jesus christ

[Anonymous No.14935539]

>>14933589
Amazing, best watch in this post. Classic seamaster

[Anonymous No.14935545]

>>14934696
Quality post.

[Anonymous No.14935554]

>>14930232

[Anonymous No.14935571]

>>14934749
Oh okay, didn't know that, still is a pretty knowledgable guy although pretty biased. Wasn't planning on buying anything from his shop either way.

[Anonymous No.14935578]

>>14935539
;)

[Anonymous No.14935597]

What's the best "one and done" watch?

[Anonymous No.14935602]

>>14935597
That really depends on what you need in a watch and your budget.

[Anonymous No.14935604]

>>14935597
everyone has a different grail desu

[Anonymous No.14935615]

>>14935597
Steel Rolex Datejust 36

[Anonymous No.14935617]

>>14935597
Depending on your budget:
Picrel, Daytona or Royal Oak.

[Anonymous No.14935618]

>>14935554
Holy fuck lmao

[Anonymous No.14935626]

>>14935487
cope harder fakefag

[Anonymous No.14935646]

>>14935554

[Anonymous No.14935649]

>>14935272
Dude was repaying a 7k debt to me but i get your point lol

[Anonymous No.14935653]

>>14935597
Sinn 556i. Let's be honest, 4channelers are too poor for anything pricier.

[Anonymous No.14935673]

>>14935412
>orient

[Anonymous No.14935678]

>>14935602
>>14935604
Sure now answer retards.
>>14935615
>>14935617
Sounds reasonable, too bad it's banal shit boring.
>>14935653
Yeah I guess.

[Anonymous No.14935680]

>>14935615
This is a pretty solid answer. I have a two toned datejust and its just too much for everyday wear. Would love a stainless steel datejust.

[Anonymous No.14935687]

>>14935678
>don't provide any info about needs/budget
>now give me an answer
Come the fuck on nigga.

[Anonymous No.14935700]

>>14935597
Your Grand Seiko of choice

[Anonymous No.14935701]

>>14931928
Imagine paying $4000 for a watch with fake patina. Imagine paying anything over $3000 for a watch with an intended use of diving into deep oceans. Imagine paying $14000 for a steel watch with an outdated movement in it. I've been in the watch game for a while and the only brand worth buying at the moment is Patek Phillipe. I'm a diver and it makes me cringe when some wage cuck has a Rolex Deepsea on, knowing it will never touch water. I mean, seriously, why would he pay that amount of money for features he'll never use and inconvenience himself with a huge chunk of steel on his wrist. Even cringier are the utter betas that wear Tudor. Yes, that's right, modern Tudors are made for men who watch their wives have sex with other men. That's it.

After all these years in the watch world, there are very few viable options. Seiko for dive watches. Patek for fine watches and horological appreciation. Maybe a zenith if you're interested in chronographs.

Buy anything else and you are succumbing to marketing ploys that want to sell you cheap shit for insane prices.

[Anonymous No.14935706]

>>14935701
lmao what a brainlet opinion (Tudor is dumb tho)

[Anonymous No.14935712]

the only tudor currently worth buying is the 36

[Anonymous No.14935713]

>>14935712
That's a strange way of spelling the BB58.

[Anonymous No.14935716]

>>14935712
Pelagos is ok, North Flag maybe too.
BB 36 is ugly and a bad Rolex Ripoff

[Anonymous No.14935721]

>>14935713
you wouldn't say that if you have actually worn the bb58, it looks and wears like a toy

>>14935716
are you really saying you don't like the bb36 because it's ugly but you like the pelagos and north flag

[Anonymous No.14935726]

>>14935721
I have actually worn a BB58, looked great imo.

[Anonymous No.14935729]

>>14935726
did you buy it

[Anonymous No.14935737]

>>14935729
Nah, I don't have ~5k syrupdollars lying around to blow on a watch. Whenever I do I'll take another look though.

[Anonymous No.14935757]

>>14935737
Lol "syrupdollars"...im guessing this is CAD?

[Anonymous No.14935764]

>>14935757
Yep.

[Anonymous No.14935765]

>>14935737
so you actually have to save up to afford $5k and you think its a good idea to consider blowing it on the most reddit and ugly tudor meme watch?

[Anonymous No.14935772]

>>14935765
I don't care about what reddit thinks about certain watches, nor should you. I think it looks better than a modern maxicase sub anyway.

[Anonymous No.14935782]

>>14935772
well considering your tastes it makes sense you would be dumb enough to think it's a good idea to buy a new $5k tudor dive watch instead of a used rolex or jlc

[Anonymous No.14935795]

>>14935782
It's not like I haven't considered those options anon. Feel free to find me a big crown submariner that isn't either beat to shit or far more expensive.

[Anonymous No.14935801]

>>14935764
I dont think i've ever heard that term. That just made my day.

[Anonymous No.14935811]

>>14935626
You're the one coping with what your normie bourgeois mind perceives as an attack on "the watch hobby".

Stay cucked my friend

[Anonymous No.14935844]

>>14933052
Yeah, dumb ass. Your Father gave it to you. And when he's gone, the memory and the watch will be worth more than Paul Newman's Daytona.

[Anonymous No.14935882]

hey friends, what do you think of this watch? not super into watches or particularly care, but this one looks pretty interesting and should be interesting to non-watch people

[Anonymous No.14935967]

>>14935701
>dive watches are for diving
>Tudor is wannabe Rolex
These are two of the ultimate watchfag bluepills, though. Blowing your top over some candydick wearing the wrong watch is bugman-tier, he's not affecting your enjoyment of your own timepieces.

[Anonymous No.14935979]

>>14935967
99% of the people that get mad at non-divers for wearing diver watches are seething poorfags

[Anonymous No.14935998]

>>14935811
Keep choking on frederico's chode then and buying those fake rolex you pathetic thirsty loser lmao

[Anonymous No.14936026]

>>14935998
I don't even care about that guy you moron.

[Anonymous No.14936070]

trying to sell a watch is there a site that shows price trends for swiss watches?
i think the price is rising and not sure if i should sell now or later

[Anonymous No.14936075]

>>14935554
Kek. Based

[Anonymous No.14936080]

>>14935554
Where's the hair around the crack? Shit gf.

[Anonymous No.14936103]

>>14936070
chrono24

[Anonymous No.14936189]

odds i trade now
even i trade later

[Anonymous No.14936226]

hows this for $115 USD?

Or any recommendations up to 150 USD?

[Anonymous No.14936243]

Any good sources that talk about budget watches? I’m not a rich fellow and I can’t afford anything over $600.

[Anonymous No.14936247]

>>14936243
check this out, found in the wiki
https://imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK

[Anonymous No.14936299]

new thread > >>14936238

[Anonymous No.14936472]

>>14936026
so you buy fakes and hang out on rep boards then?
as pathetic as a furry

[Anonymous No.14936723]

>>14936472
Some of the rep forum guys are more knowledgeable about quality watches than anyone in the world. They have to be. Try not being such an alarmist bugman bitch.

[Anonymous No.14936793]

>>14936723
you're not one of them fuccboi lol
you just want to wear that fake rolex

[Anonymous No.14937116]

>>14935967
>he's not affecting your enjoyment of your own timepieces.
He is though when he causes the inflation of watches which are used for a specific purpose. Most people can no longer buy a Rolex dive watch to use diving. It's simply far too expensive to use for its intended purpose. That affects my enjoyment for the brand.