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On one hand, rock music and party life is rebellious and based, totally effay, as shown in this dude's design.

But on the other, there is the degeneracy of drug use, scummy, violent people and the trashy nature of it.

What is the consensus, my fellow right wingers?

>> No.14893659

Experimentation is based. Abuse is not.

>> No.14893668

>>14893648
Form your own opinion on something for once in your life.

>> No.14893673

>>14893648
theres nothing interesting or rebellious about rock music but nightlife and drugs is indisputably cool and effay.

you dont know what you're talking about if you think nightclubs are scummy, violent, and trashy. you've obviously never been let into one. they are by far and away the most pleasant, welcoming, and easy going places you can find

>> No.14893736

>>14893673
Clubs fucking blow ass dude. The music's shit, the people are vapid, and a bottle of Heineken costs $12. Bear in mind that I'm stuck in Canada though, they might be better in real countries.

>> No.14893781

>>14893648
I can't believe I used to be like you. Move past the /pol/ phase mate, you'll feel better for it. Letting your political view become your identity just makes you look like a massive fucking spastic. Your post reads like a bloody 50's educational pamphlet.

>> No.14893825

I do coke and am drunk three times a week because its fun, not because of wether it is effay or not

>> No.14893854

extreme asceticism is the only way to TRULY be effay, sorry buddy

>> No.14893868

>>14893648
>rock music and party life is rebellious
In what world are you living? Maybe 50 years ago... that's mainstream today.

>> No.14893885

>>14893868
>rock music is mainstream today

>> No.14893888

partying occasionally is based, but partying every evening or weekend makes you really vapid and lame. you end up not having time/money/energy do interesting things or have meaningful hobbies, and it's hard to connect with people on a deeper level in an environment filled with loud music, drugs and drama. after a while you lose touch with what's important and fulfilling, your health declines and you'll have a hard time making conversation that isn't petty gossip. your real friends are people you like drunk or sober, and you should be able to like yourself drunk or sober.
t. former degen stacy

>> No.14893889

>>14893648

The quality of nightlife depends greatly on the place, be it club, disco or bar. Most clubs I've been to were pretty boring desu, a bad DJ will kill the mood too. The only place I'd consider worth visiting most times would be the smaller metal/rock hall at a disco at a nearby highway. Or maybe the rocker/goth/emo/punk crowd there is just more pleasant company, idk.

>> No.14894478

I want to go to clubs but I just moved into the area and have no friends to go with. How weird would it be to go alone?

>> No.14894505

>>14893648
This is a hard one. I loved playing in bands, going to house shows and punk clubs, getting mildly drunk and high, hitting up cool parties with creative people. It was a wonderful time. But i look back and think also about all the time kinda wasted on getting wasted. I lacked motivation and discipline.
Still struggle to this day. Totally not based to have to rely on drugs and alcohol. But people have relied on it for centuries. Even in ancient times.
Totally not based to be a social retard who cant strike up a conversation and let go and have a good time.
I dunno i think partying is based if u control it but more often then not it ends up controlling you. Better to put effort into personal projects and physical agility.

>> No.14894512

>>14894478
Not weird at all. I used to do it all the time. Dress /fa/, have a drink, look cool and comfortable (even if ur not), enjoy the scene/music, strike up casual convo with either sex. Dont come off as desperate or sad. Just confident and enjoying ur time.

>> No.14894673

>>14893648
>muh degeneracy
You do realize where you are, correct? Ease up a bit. Fashion, in and of it self, is full of perversion, or some sort of abuse, be it sexual, psychological, or drug-related.

Politics doesn't matter, either. You can go out, and have a bit of fun, regardless of your political standing - unless you're some kind of extremist.

>>14893868
Rock is not mainstream, or underground today. Bit in the middle, I guess. Rock is not dead, before someone claims that, too. There are plenty of upcoming bands, or already established bands, or people, whatever.

>> No.14894707

>>14893885
It's not mainstream, but it's not really counter cultural either. Rock is long dead unless you're a shitkicker in a flyover state. Then you're probably getting Creed or Powerman 5000 plays in.

>> No.14894710

>>14893888
>you end up not having time/money/energy do interesting things or have meaningful hobbies
You're just weak. And this deeper level of connection you describe doesn't exist, unless you think telling a girl what your sign and favorite episode of the Office is over and over.

>> No.14894712

>>14894478
Don't listen to >>14894512 unless you're at least a 9/10 or a guy other guys mancrush on. If you're anything else, the very fact you're alone will get you labeled as a weirdo and a potential date rapist. The nightlife is nowhere to meet people unless you already have a robust social circle.

>> No.14894875
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14894875

Partying has always been effay. From the 15h century to the current day.

>> No.14894887

>>14893673
>theres nothing interesting or rebellious about rock music but nightlife and drugs is indisputably cool and effay.

>you dont know what you're talking about if you think nightclubs are scummy, violent, and trashy. you've obviously never been let into one. they are by far and away the most pleasant, welcoming, and easy going places you can find

This.

>>14893668
>Form your own opinion on something for once in your life.

Also but this.

>>14893736
You're going to normie trash clubs.

>> No.14894889

>>14893648
Pffft, right wingers dont know how to party dude. The right is a group of traditionalists who hate it when people deviate from the norm? What the fuck do you rebel against, your dad's choice of football team? Artists always trend towards the left, because the right are a bunch of socially stagnant babies who won't experiment, share ideas, accept people for who they are, or allow themselves to cut loose and feel the music.

You'll never rock, and you'll never be fun to party with

>> No.14894903

>>14894887
Also I fuckin' love people on four chan dot org talking about "degeneracy."

Like, dipshit, you realize you are in the seediest vortex of everything Western civilization has become possible? A site defined by the transience and facelessness of its content that began as a place for NEETs to talk about Japanese cartoons and turned into a place for people to indulge and get irony frission and orgasms off every final, weirdest twitch of their id?

And all this is FINE, the West was a shit and toxic project anyway, except you lot somehow insist on having it both ways and participating in this ultimate decadent chattering jizz-but-bloodless freak show AND using it as a platform to try to violently reassert ~traditional values~.

Like, stop hating yourself, stop hating black tranny junkies, it's okay to enjoy yourself and your life and hate everything this melting iceberg of a society considers success and the solipsistic fools who run it, just don't punch sideways or down. Connect, relate, value the differences you have with people. You'll find real power and agency in doing that instead of trying to ape the domination fantasies forced on you that you, let's face it, never have or could fit into anyway. Your life is too short for anything else even you somehow survive all the ecological, infrastructural, and social disintegrations that are going to kill most of us in the next few decades.

>> No.14894906

>>14894889
>>14894903
lol I spent twelve minutes writing that, but hivemind

>> No.14894993

>>14894903
I agree with this but I cannot bring myself not to hate trannies. There presence is literally insulting to me. Their whole get up moves with the assumption that they can fool me with their retarded wig or short haircut and hormone mustache. Like their little costume is the equivalent of my manhood or they can larp as a female like it's nothing. It's a public display stating that they think everybody else is retarded. And on top of that it's such an absurd situation and I'm supposed to act casual about it and not point it out. If they just went with it accepting that literally nobody but themselves would find it normal I'm pretty sure 90% of the hate they get would disappear
I live in San Francisco this is a daily occurrence

>> No.14895195

>>14894712
Than how tf am I supposed to meet people into the same kind of music? It's like one of those entry level jobs with experience required situations. I hate how finicky and random friendships are outside of school or work. How haven't they made a friend tinder or something

>> No.14895197

>>14894903
>stop hating black tranny junkies
Never.

>> No.14895208

>>14895195
The friends I met outside school or work come usually from Internet, festivals, or friends of friends.

>> No.14895243

>>14895208
>festival
Need friends to go with
>friends of friends
This sounds like capitalist "meritocracy"
I've been left behind and I didn't even realize it was happening until it was too late

>> No.14895279

>>14895243
>need friends to go with
I actually went to a festival alone and it has gone pretty well, I met a group at one of the concerts and we stayed together, and we would go to pretty much the same bands and artists. Very fun experience.

About friends of friends, yeah that kinda suck, you also need friends to start with. But just try to remember that when you have someday new opportunities.

>> No.14895290

>>14893648
Partying is associated with youth. Youth is inherently effay.

Personally, I'm too old for that shit. Fun every now and then, but it's sad seeing people my age trying to recapture or grasp onto that lifestyle.

>> No.14895307

>>14893648
ur a lame virgin, that's the consensus

>> No.14895381

>>14895290
How old are you

>> No.14895737

>>14894993
All gender is performative man. You're in control of your own personality, your own likes and dislikes, hobbies, clothes etc. The fact that you're so obsessed with what society has laid out for you tells me that you still have a slave mentality. Look at how you lose your composure when faced with people who choose to do with their body what they want. No one wants to mimic your 'manhood', because it's kind of weak, scared and submissive to the power of the majority. How do you expess yourself through fashion when you can't even accept expression through one's own body?

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>>14893668

>> No.14895884

>>14895737
>gender is performative
This is itself a mindless mantra and directly opposes what is plainly visible to the naked eye and to common sense. You are brainwashed to deny reality and you call others slaves?

>> No.14895956

>>14895884
It's easily seen in how performative gender is if you just look throughout history and if you observe other cultures besides your own. In middle Eastern cultures, men hold hands as a sign of friendship. In western culture, it's seen as gay and effeminate. Two different performances, same sex. Historically, pink was seen as a strong, masculine culture for boys to wear, not suitable for women. Now its associated with girls' toys. What men and women do and dont do is mostly dictated by our social sphere, rather than our sex. You're only limiting your own self by adhering to strict social programming.

If someone needs to put it in words a close minded fascist can understand, you're what you'd call an NPC.

>> No.14896077

hedi slimane is the greatest designer to ever live

>> No.14896287

>>14895737
Nope, I see it exactly how a black person would feel meeting somebody with blackface, wearing sagging pants, holding a watermelon, and talking in ebonics. Their public display is an assumption that a part of your biology that forms your identity can be easily recreated by referring to shallow stereotypes and imitation. It's a public display directly insulting you if you believe you're a man simply because you were born as one, not by adhering to the societal tropes you accuse me of. I see it as no different than walking into a reservation dressed like an Indian from a western. Trannies are basically telling you that you are only a short haircut and mustache, and telling woman they are only a wig, dress, and fake tits. Insult
>>14895956
These are bad examples and are only surface level differentiation on the social signals of the sexes based on culture. It does not mean men who hold hands and like pink aren't considered men, but that these traits while held by a man has implications of their behavior. If he has a penis he's a man, that's it. Attach whatever positive or negative adjective to it pertaining to the man, but nobody is doubting that they are a male

>> No.14896308

>>14895956

The social norms and roles are, however, themselves the reflections of biological tendency reflected in a variety of ways outward. They simply aren’t arbitrary little performances.

I think that is what makes trannies so jarring to so many. They cannot know what it feels like, to be the opposite gender. The impulses and coding are not there, and it shows. They merely play-act as women (or less often, as men) in the hope that it will make their delusion real.

But they can’t fake it til they make it.

>> No.14896629

>>14894512
I guess...i got laif plenty. No one thought i was a rapist. And im 7-8/10.

>> No.14896645

>>14894889
Lol not so. Im def a right winger and ive done more psychedelics then u can shake a stick at. Used to really love ketamine and xanex as well. Of course just a nice whiskey drunk at a punk show is def a fav. How silly. Most libtards i know cant hold a drink let alone drugs, suck at conversation and debate and have lame, too trendy fashion.

>> No.14896648

>>14894993
Based as fuck

>> No.14897550

>>14895290
this.
Old dudes in clubs are mostly cringe inducing, every time I see some bald bloated middle aged guy who tries to snuggle up the girl on the dance floor I think god I hope I'll be sane enough to stop going in these places before it's that late, it's unbelievably pathetic

>> No.14897640

>>14897550
What's the age cutoff

>> No.14897655

Yes and no. Anything is Effay with the right wardrobe and aesthic. You must take the good of the bad and the bad of the good. Drugs at a house show? Wear a retro sweatshirt, at a club? Something modern mixed with futuristic.

>> No.14897661

human traffic is a good movie to get insight on this topic

>> No.14897690

If you live like Gab3 it might be a based life. But in 2019, the streets are no longer wild. They haven't been in decades. And it's all LArp, roleplaying, pretending to be in previous times now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hpE60pYT8s

>> No.14897842

>>14897640
I think it's 35 for most guys

>> No.14897853

>>14897842
Ah ok I thought it was gonna be some zoomer teir shit like 25

>> No.14897889

>>14893659
This is pretty fair,
though it should be noted that with self control,
moderated use doesn't always mean abuse.

>> No.14898734

>>14893648
>rebellious
FUCKING KEK
Partying is the most normie tier trash I could fucking imagine. Read a book, cumbrain trashbag.

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14899192

>tell gf i got invited to a party
>she gets upset despite the fact that she occasionally parties too
What a meme. Fuck that bitch. Girlfriend's are memes, fellow /fa/gs.

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>>14899192
relationships = compromise
who knew?

>> No.14899304

>>14899229
She goes to them all the time, even when we were in a relationship. So, why is it an issue now that I'm also going to them? That's a bit ridiculous. Am I not allowed to have fun, while she can?

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>>14897550
To be fair, Hedi Slimane's 50. All he does is hang in clubs, parties, so on.

>> No.14899319

>>14899304
when i was in a relationship i noticed that no matter what i wanted to do she would always want to do the opposite so i got pretty good at predicting her mood and then pretending to want to do the opposite of what i actually wanted to do so that it could be "her decision" which was the only way she knew how to lover herself.
We're no longer together.

>> No.14899338

>>14894889
Can I borrow your time machine so I can go back to where your positions were true?

>> No.14900536

>>14896287
You sound really confused. How can your identity be so fragile that a stranger dressing/ acting different makes you feel insulted and emasculated?
Are you ok?

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>>14900536
>You sound really confused. How can your identity be so fragile that a stranger dressing/ acting different makes you feel insulted

>> No.14901913

>>14897842
>I think it's 35
Can confirm. Mid 30s is when the party scene starts to extract a toll on you, mentally and physically.
Besides, as you grow older you need to mature out of party mode and establish yourself as an adult. Career, family, kids, etc.
If you don't, you'll be that 45 year old guy that life left behind, still hustlin cheap drinks, bad drugs, and embarrassing yourself by hittin on girls half your age.

>> No.14901966

>>14897853
After 35 you really should be married to look normal. Or if you decided not to engage, then you have to stop hanging out in clubs and should specially avoid people younger than 30.