/wt/ - Watch Thread: Jesus Christ our Saviour Edition

[Anonymous No.14607443]

This thread is about the appreciation of utterly amazing and truly stunning timepieces ($500,000+) and the sense of pleasure that comes with relaxing with a couple of lines of PCP while enjoying your utterly amazing and truly stunning timepiece, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required to make an utterly amazing and truly stunning timepiece.

> Required viewing for new people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW5V4KCSAAE

Guides:

> Watch essentials 102: https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV
> Purchasing used watches: https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2
> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE
> Guide for plebs: https://imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK
Should I buy this fashion brand watch?

> Scroll through this album first, then kill yourself: https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Buy a MOTMFM or fuck off.

Previously on /wt/:

>>14601308

[Anonymous No.14607471]

First for Seiko is based!

[Anonymous No.14607472]

should i go for it

[Anonymous No.14607479]

>>14607443
Archie convinced me not to buy a cheap shitter but to save up and buy a decent watch so I can sell it if I want to later.

[Anonymous No.14607534]

I make 17k a year and have a 17k net worth. Which Tissot should I get?

[Anonymous No.14607583]

>>14607534
Casio GShock since you’re going to kick yourself when you can afford better watches.

[Anonymous No.14607605]

>one of the big three
>/wt/ hates them anyways

why do you hate them?

[Anonymous No.14607616]

>>14607479
>buying a watch to sell it

This is literally the most low IQ move to do.

That's like buying a car to sell it. You're just going to lose money, I don't care how "good" your Rolex is.

[Anonymous No.14607628]

>>14607443
Should I get this shitter till I get some money for better watch then I'll just use it as a beater. Atm I don't have a watch and refuse to buy a smart watch.

[Anonymous No.14607637]

If I get a Reinhart, most people won't say shit right? Just the watch snobs who will take offense?

[Anonymous No.14607653]

>>14607472
Yaaassssss

[Anonymous No.14607654]

>>14607628
I got one of those myself fampai.

Get the 38mm, it's okay, and that's all I ever wanted/expected.

[Anonymous No.14607657]

>>14607479
>so I can sell it if I want to later
Easier said than done

[Anonymous No.14607663]

So any rec on watches with blue dial? I’m tempted to get a blue sturmanskie because I’m an “””””ironic”””” hipster that doesn’t want any mainstream shit.

But I’ll probably get an Orient in the end tho.

[Anonymous No.14607685]

>>14607605
boring dial

[Anonymous No.14607706]

Is this a shitter?

[Anonymous No.14607711]

>>14607605
All class and no style

[Anonymous No.14607714]

>>14607605
I would never wear a watch with a Nazi cross on it.

I work at a school. If a student saw that I'd be fired the next day.

[Anonymous No.14607718]

>>14607479
I've searched around for a while and can't get an answer. WTF are those lumps on his temples?

[Anonymous No.14607755]

>>14607718

seiko warts

[Anonymous No.14607767]

What are the best watches for wristlets

[Anonymous No.14607771]

>>14607767
rolex 34mm op.

[Anonymous No.14607772]

>>14607471

seikopaths GTFO

>>14607767

lady versions or bracelets to visually thiccen your pathetic anatomy

[Anonymous No.14607791]

>>14607714
That's a maltese cross you retard

[Anonymous No.14607825]

>>14607771

the red grape dial oyster perpetual is one of the best superreplica watches. for that reason I would never want to buy a real one.

[Anonymous No.14607830]

>>14607825
you can clearly tell the left is fake, though.

[Anonymous No.14607849]

>>14607830
i literally cant tell

[Anonymous No.14607864]

>>14607605
big three is a meme, it's Rolex and Patek
VC is dead and AP is a fashion brand for the Royal Oak bracelet

[Anonymous No.14607883]

>>14607864
>falling for the Rolex meme

There's only one reason to buy a Rolex: to get thots on your dick.

If you're actually buying it for horological purposes you're retarded.

[Anonymous No.14607885]

>>14607830
I can see the very slight difference in this side by side but if you showed me the watch alone, or even both full watches side by side, I would be completely unable to tell

[Anonymous No.14607891]

>>14607885
the dial is fine.

the batons give it away. the white batons on the fake are clearly stainless steel versus white gold on the real one.

[Anonymous No.14607901]

>>14607891
No normie will ever notice who gives a shit nigga

[Anonymous No.14607918]

I'm a zoomer and I have about $7500 saved. Should I be a nigger and dump $3000 on pic related? Or should I save my money, keep wearing my basedko shitter, and wait a few more years? Pic related is my grail watch.

[Anonymous No.14607928]

>>14607883
also a meme, girls don't notice watches

[Anonymous No.14607930]

>>14607918
vintage is the "right" thing to do but i can't help but thing they're ugly compared to modern

[Anonymous No.14607934]

>>14607918
Never. Ever. Spend money on a watch you don't really want.

Save up and get want you really want.

[Anonymous No.14607941]

>>14607918
Put it in a 401k you literal nigger, spend $1500 and get a nice Seamaster. And girls do notice that watch

[Anonymous No.14607942]

>>14607918
>I'm a zoomer and I have about $7500 saved

Invest it instead.

[Anonymous No.14607982]

>>14607942
buying a watch is an investment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li0mRLcGbU8

[Anonymous No.14608035]

Stephen Stills wearing a Sub.

[Anonymous No.14608055]

>>14607472
Can't be more than $250, go for it. Find some reason to celebrate your successes and enjoy having a decent affordable timepiece.

[Anonymous No.14608088]

What can I get between $500-$2000?

[Anonymous No.14608090]

>>14608088
Anywhere between 500 and 2000 snickers bars

[Anonymous No.14608098]

>>14607616
>being this much of a low IQ dipshit
>calling others low IQ
I'm sorry you're too stupid to figure out how to make money from flipping cars or how to at least earn back the money you spent on the watch. Have fun making poor financial decisions.

[Anonymous No.14608103]

>>14607825
W2c super replica?

[Anonymous No.14608116]

>>14608098
>buying a watch
>"lol it's a good financial decision"

25 year old zoomer detected.

[Anonymous No.14608120]

Yema is the future!

[Anonymous No.14608124]

>>14608120
And the future is now!

[Anonymous No.14608173]

>>14608103

use replica watch forum to find the list of superreplicas. Then use the approved dealers list at those forums and look for the watch you want on that forum.

[Anonymous No.14608184]

I know I shouldn't like it but i do, I'm thinking of getting this shitter!

[Anonymous No.14608185]

>>14608120
>>14608124
can you literally imagine waking up each morning and slapping this fucking shit on your wrist? and just going about your day like nothing happened? holy fuck what lmao

[Anonymous No.14608194]

>>14608124
>>14608120

Holy fucking cringe

[Anonymous No.14608202]

>>14608184
disappointed that I want this

[Anonymous No.14608230]

>>14607628
What about a Seiko SNK809?

[Anonymous No.14608265]

>>14607534
Ballade

[Anonymous No.14608277]

Compulsively buying another shitter will fill the empty void that is my personal life...right anons? I'll totally go /out/ with a watch like this...like I always want to before crippling depression stops me. A tool watch will change all that

[Anonymous No.14608290]

>>14607479
buy a discontinued JDM and it'll appreciate

[Anonymous No.14608310]

Based Russians

Name a better watch for the money

[Anonymous No.14608318]

>>14607706
no

[Anonymous No.14608323]

>>14607605
Actually VC are my favorite but I wish they didn't miss out on opportunities.
The titanium overseas they will never make was the coolest watch I've seen in years

[Anonymous No.14608326]

>>14608310
I heard the movements break really easily. Anyone know which vostok movements are better? Is the one with the date complication less solid than the one without?

[Anonymous No.14608327]

>>14607706
No but they seamasters hold their value very poorly from what I've gathered. Rolex does the smart move by making their watches artificially scarce.

[Anonymous No.14608342]

>>14608326
People have problems because they misuse them or buy from random ebay sellers who are probably peddling 90's era shitters. Buy from Meranom and it'll be solid (and if it's not they'll replace it for free)

[Anonymous No.14608343]

>>14608326
Really? I always hear they're durable as fuck.

[Anonymous No.14608346]

>>14608277
I've thought about these, but it's expensive for what it is (just another diver)

[Anonymous No.14608405]

>>14608342
What does misuse entail in this context

[Anonymous No.14608433]

What dial color would you recommend for the Sinn? I like the picture of the blue watch better, but I think that's just because the picture has better contrast with the strap.

Will the grey dial be more versatile?

[Anonymous No.14608437]

>>14608433

[Anonymous No.14608442]

>>14608433
It will obviously be more versatile but if your wardrobe has decent amount of color then I would go for blue. My wardrobe is a lot of monochrome with dashes of color here and there so I would go for the grey.

[Anonymous No.14608446]

>>14608405
I probably should’ve worded it better. Misuse the watch, not the movement itself. Most problems with Amphibias are:

>hey guys I forgot to screw the crown down and took my watch swimming and now it’s broken wtf I thought this was supposed to be a dive watch

>hey guys I bought an amphibia from a random turkish ebay seller with 94% feedback and it arrived DOA fuck you vostok shitter brand

>hey guys I followed a youtube guide and modded my vostok and now its all fucked up what do I do

You will still occasionally get QC issues from the factory, but buying from Meranom is reliable and they will fix any problems. The main problem is the slow Russian mail system so you will wait a while to fix any problems.

[Anonymous No.14608480]

>>14608433
>>14608437

Stop being a pussy and buy the based green one

[Anonymous No.14608484]

just spent $150 on one of these. how badly did I fuck up lol?

really excited for it to come in

[Anonymous No.14608489]

>>14608484
I want a penis quartz. Where'd you buy it?

[Anonymous No.14608491]

>>14608120
Ive got a yema too. cost me $3

currently have it on an Erika MN strap but regret getting navy blue instead of black.

waiting for a perforated leather strap to come in.

where do you guys get your leather straps anyways?

[Anonymous No.14608499]

full lume basedmasters available new on chrono24 for a fair price? tempted to buy one to replace my current one which is pretty destroyed....

https://www.chrono24.com/citizen/ny0040-09w-promaster-aqualand-automatic-gomma-full-lume--id12284200.htm

[Anonymous No.14608506]

>>14608489
eBay

should I be worried about fakes D:

[Anonymous No.14608510]

>>14608446
It's good that you mention this, I want to change the hands on my vostok, I suppose I should bring them to my watch guy if I don't want to fuck it up, or is it just having after market hands that fuck them up?

[Anonymous No.14608516]

>>14608484
That dial material looks like what you'd see on cheap appliances.

[Anonymous No.14608525]

Going to Japan soon, are watch prices much different locally compared to online prices? General tips about buying a watch in Japan welcome

[Anonymous No.14608542]

>>14608525
>Are watch prices much different locally compared to online prices
Online prices tend to actually be a little better.

>General tips about buying a watch in Japan welcome
Depends what kind of watch you're after. Yodobashi/Bic Camera/Softmap are the better grey market dealers out there. Don't bother going to any boutiques or ADs unless you just want to look at the watches, the prices are higher than the states.

[Anonymous No.14608544]

>>14607663

[Anonymous No.14608555]

>>14608525
Theres a lot of them, grand seiko is marked up vs the west. You realise were all the rolex steel sports have gone. They don't really haggle over price or like to, it's the japanese way. Yodobashi and Bic great, if your into your headphones your in for a treat as well. Go to Jack Road, it's a little out of Tokyo but theres a good few other watch shops there as well, they have some nice watches bring all your money. I'm heading in 2 weeks to pick up a GS quartz.

[Anonymous No.14608647]

>>14607472
Nice Christopher Ward homage.

[Anonymous No.14608781]

>>14607472
Get the green Kamasu.

[Anonymous No.14608795]

Are newly made entry-level Swiss watches (Tissot, Hamilton, etc) objectively superior to old vintage Omegas?

It's like a newly made Honda with the latest tech vs your grandpa's old Jaguar that's falling apart

[Anonymous No.14608825]

>>14608484
can't really go wrong for 150.

[Anonymous No.14608826]

>>14608795
modern entry level swiss watches are full of chinese parts so I'd take a gamble on the vintage omega.

[Anonymous No.14608940]

>>14608826
>>14608795

at least they're not using jap crap

[Anonymous No.14608955]

>>14608544
>we want the royal oak and patek audience
>Lmao let's just rip off both!

[Anonymous No.14608962]

>>14608795
In the same utilitarian sense in which Sinn is superior to Patek or rolex and a gshock superior to everything, sure. Just use your phone if that is your view though.

[Anonymous No.14608979]

So glad I never bought a luxury watch. I’m not into the hobby anymore. Was totally just a phase for me. Luckily I only got a few Orients and Casios.

[Anonymous No.14608999]

Hello anons, I am pretty new at this whole watch thing, and I would like some opinions on this watch and it's brand. Thanks :)
https://www.mvmtwatches.com/products/chrono-gun-metal-sandstone-leather

[Anonymous No.14609009]

Ed got it to me in under a 3 days to the UK, thanks anon on the advice of going with the blue dial, white secs would have been cheap looking.

[Anonymous No.14609012]

stopped caring about watches months ago
why do i still come here?

[Anonymous No.14609053]

>>14608962
Modern materials, better size, better movement without dealing with unknown service history. I don’t see how it’s buying a G-Shock when they’re both mechanical watches from the same huge conglomerate but Tissot are just further down the ladder than Omega. Finishing kind of goes out the window when a watch is 50 years old

[Anonymous No.14609058]

>>14609012
I stayed for the ambiance

[Anonymous No.14609060]

>>14608999
No. Any watch brand that advertises on youtube gaming channels is no good. It's like a college that advertises for students: Full Sail? Devry Technical Institute? Stay away.

That particular watch you posted is a chonograph. But because the subdials have no indices it's impossible to read, making the whole thing useless.

But I think it's okay to own one crappy quartz watch, so long as it's cheap. We all need a beater.

[Anonymous No.14609066]

>>14608999
Assuming this isn't bait, it's shit and I'll walk you through why. You see how the subdials and date window are all cramped in the centre? That says they've used the smallest, cheapest movement inside they could get their hands on and stuck it in an oversized case. Also good luck using those tiny, unmarked subdials for literally anything. Next is the price. You can get the exact same watch - not a copy, the exact same - from aliexpress for 1/10th the price. MVMT and many other "fashion brands" buy their watches from China, mass produced from the same off the shelf parts and often built in the exact same factory. Picrel is $10. Finally, the most subjective part, is the design. It looks tacky and shit. Minimalism isn't inherently good, it's actually one of the more difficult styles to get right as you need to be very tasteful in what you subtract. I'd describe that thing as "reductionist" - doing the bare minimum possible and disguising it as artistic intent. Look up the bauhaus school (not bauhaus watches, the art movement as a whole) or old braun electronics and see if you can tell the difference between those and this.
If you're looking for a cheap watch read the poorfag guide in the OP

[Anonymous No.14609093]

>>14608795
there's very little meaningful new tech in watches but vintage watches have shitty ugly insides (dials, movements) due to moisture seeping in probably
"b-bu-but it's patina" - fag

[Anonymous No.14609102]

>>14609093
There's a bunch of stuff that's fairly recent, e.g. silicon balance springs were only brought out by Ulysse Nardin in 2001 and have already seeped down to the $500 Tissot level. At the higher levels there's a lot more innovation.

[Anonymous No.14609104]

>>14607472

I got one, really happy with mine.
It's my first diver mechanical/automatic watch. You'll definitely enjoy the versatility of it - change the strap and it's a completely new watch.
I got two nato straps, one dark smart casual one, one colorful casual one, and one classic/formal leather strap.

[Anonymous No.14609105]

Why did you nasty vicious PHUCKERS break my string of Speedy threads?

[Anonymous No.14609111]

>>14609102
you can't claim innovation when it's convenient then say it's undiluted traditional artisan craftsmanship when that sounds better

[Anonymous No.14609170]

Hey watch thread, I'm addicted to big clunky watches, mostly divers, post some fine clean watches, preferably with white dials.

[Anonymous No.14609178]

>>14607706
>not a Rolex
Sure is.

[Anonymous No.14609196]

>>14608826
Of course, how the hell you can make a swiss watch that cheaply? They are assembled in swiss, not swiss made.

[Anonymous No.14609202]

>>14609196
Many people still seem to be under the illusion that "swiss made" means something.

[Anonymous No.14609205]

>>14609009
What is this watch? W2c?

[Anonymous No.14609206]

R8 the watch i'm gonna get

[Anonymous No.14609220]

>>14609205

"HKED" Seagull 1963

https://www.hkedwatches.com/collections/1963-38mm

[Anonymous No.14609223]

>>14609220

[Anonymous No.14609225]

>>14609220
>>14609223
Thank you

[Anonymous No.14609242]

>>14609220
>>14609223
>>14609225

Np, shipping was fast! Great service!

I was thinking Grand Seiko Quartz or Oris Aquis next, anyone got some good recommendations on a £500-£1000 diver.

[Anonymous No.14609262]

>>14608310
>>14608326

I wore this Vostok Amfibia once a day for about a year, took a year break from it, and have now gone to wearing it daily. Great watch, really durable. If I have any complaint it's that the bezel doesn't click and is simply tension rotation but for the price it's whatever.

Removed the stock metal link strap and replaced it with some random NATO. I replaced that with a Crown and Buckle Supreme NATO and the quality difference is such an improvement over a standard NATO I can't recommend it enough.

[Anonymous No.14609265]

>>14609262

>once a week for about a year.

[Anonymous No.14609275]

What do y'all think of the $1k Seagull tourbillons? From what I've heard they come with a lifetime warranty

[Anonymous No.14609278]

>>14609262
Some of the newer models, like the one anon posted earlier come with a click bezel.

[Anonymous No.14609297]

>>14609275
nuke China

that's my take on it

[Anonymous No.14609310]

>>14609278

Cool, thank you for letting me know, I'll have to pick one up.

[Anonymous No.14609321]

>>14609242
Offload the DOGSHIT and buy a Rowlecks.

[Anonymous No.14609324]

>>14609297
China’s fine by me. For $1100 I can get a regulated tourbillon with enamel dial and blued hands or I could get a dog shit ugly Hamilton with a generic ETA

[Anonymous No.14609330]

>>14609009
WTF Is the case brushed? Also - lemme see the caeeback, is there a swan neck regulator?

[Anonymous No.14609353]

>>14609321
I'd like a sub no date but as you know it's hard to get your hands on one. I'll pick one up if thing die down. New seamaster and explore would be nice, reverso small secs if I could get over the price of replacing the straps.

Used mid level watches at a good price should be pretty safe, few shutters for fun :)

>>14609330
Yea tops brushed and poished sides, Ed for HKED did what I always wanted with the 1963, yea it has the swan >>14609223

[Anonymous No.14609372]

The only good brands are the independents. Prove me wrong.

Pro tip: you can’t

[Anonymous No.14609397]

>>14609372
>casio
>breetling
>not shit

?

[Anonymous No.14609410]

>>14609372
So Sinn and Guinand.

[Anonymous No.14609438]

>>14609410
+nomos

[Anonymous No.14609449]

>>14609275
Based chinks dabbing on the swiss

[Anonymous No.14609452]

>>14609104
My first mechanical watch also. Kudos

[Anonymous No.14609455]

>>14609324
>China’s fine by me. For $1100 I can get a regulated tourbillon with enamel dial and blued hands or I could get a dog shit ugly Hamilton with a generic ETA
I kinda doubt they bothered to do real blued steel. It's probably just anodized aluminium. Enamel and tourbillon is impressive though.

[Anonymous No.14609475]

I hate rolex

[Anonymous No.14609505]

>>14609372
Who owns oris? Or are they independent?

[Anonymous No.14609525]

>>14609505
indy

[Anonymous No.14609526]

>>14609242
>Oris aquis
Not a bad watch, but I don't understand why anyone would buy one when you could get a 65 instead

[Anonymous No.14609551]

>>14609297
America’s education prime example

[Anonymous No.14609554]

>>14609526
What's a 65? Not everyone knows all the model numbers and shit for every brand. You autistic fuck.

[Anonymous No.14609555]

>>14609278
Source on this? Apart from a few rare late 90s models I never heard of them having clicking bezels. It will save me the trouble of having to "engineer" a system which won't comprise the water resistance.

[Anonymous No.14609566]

>>14609554
>what is google and how do I use it
What is it with these fucking retards that insist on being spoonfed.

[Anonymous No.14609575]

>>14607706
> Not a Seiko 5
Yes it's a shitter

[Anonymous No.14609622]

>>14608999
If you're not baiting, do not get this piece of shit. Its got a $5-10 Miyota movement inside and absolutely no horological value and is in no way worth $135. This goes for any fashion watch brand. Check out Seiko, Casio, Timex, Vostok, Orient, or any other entry level actual watch brand for a better use of $135.

[Anonymous No.14609632]

>>14609554
It's a pretty well know watch to be fair

>>14609526
I like both so.e days I like the 65 and some days I like the aquis. Comes down to right price and condition at the time

[Anonymous No.14609636]

>>14609372
Invicta buying Glycine was pretty sad.

Chart needs more middling german brands.

[Anonymous No.14609681]

Why would anyone buy Rolex? Even if it's real, 99.9% of people would just think it's fake. For the same money you can buy other luxury brands that aren't associated with nouveau riche niggers.

[Anonymous No.14609687]

>>14609681
Rolex has the tightest precision spec and longest recommended service interval of any tradition mechanical watch under 400k.

[Anonymous No.14609703]

>>14609632
Aquis looks better in real life. Especially in green or blue.

[Anonymous No.14609708]

>>14609681
Rolex is an investment. They literally don't depreciate unless you ruin the condition like a tard.

[Anonymous No.14609719]

>>14609681
Because not everyone is poor.

[Anonymous No.14609736]

>>14609708
>investment
No its not, just because it 'doesn't depreciate' doesnt mean its an investment, its just money you've made less liquid, and more risky, so you can wear a watch that outs you as an insecure new-money with absolutely no tact.

[Anonymous No.14609773]

>>14609060
>>14609066
>>14609622
Thanks for the help lads, i wasn't baiting, I needed someone to say it because a dumbass friend of mine would not belive me when I said not to buy that shitty watch. I got him to buy the same shitty watch on Aliexpress. Thanks again.

[Anonymous No.14609777]

>>14609719
I see that argument everytime as if a Rolex didn't have any intrinsic quality and its appeal only comes from its high price.

[Anonymous No.14609778]

>wear Speedmaster on a NATO strap
>go on a rollercoaster
>have fun
>ride ends, I go for a coffee, and as I spill it on my watch I notice the crystal popped off
fml

[Anonymous No.14609779]

>>14609777
No the guy is asking why a poorfag would buy a watch that's for middle class people, which means he's poor as fuck and only hangs with poor people who would think it's a fake. If you're a normal person you know why you'd buy a Rolex already, no sense in going over those arguments.

[Anonymous No.14609810]

>>14609206
cuckoo

[Anonymous No.14609842]

>>14609778
Lol how the fuck did they go to the moon if the G force of a fucking roller coaster killed one?

[Anonymous No.14609866]

>>14609778

[Anonymous No.14609878]

rename to poorfag general plz

[Anonymous No.14609891]

>>14609736
A brand new rolex steel sports is more exclusive than any alternatives. Seeing someone wearing one is a status symbol as well as a symbol of extreme intelligence. You literally triple your money just from purchasing one at an AD. Not that you could. They wouldn't even let you buy a ladies datejust.

[Anonymous No.14609908]

>>14609891
>Rolex are hard to buy from ADs.
>even basic stainless steel ones.

Where does this meme come from?

[Anonymous No.14609911]

>>14609891
>symbol of extreme intelligence

[Anonymous No.14609927]

>>14609908
I went into an AD and they wouldn't even take an oyster perpetual out of the case for me.

They told me to look at it through the glass,

[Anonymous No.14609945]

>>14609555
Started with the 020SE Amphibia's that have a 60 click and i stand correct that it hasn't transferred to the lower Komandiskie variants.

Which is a shame since those 020SE's went for like 130~140$ shipped from meranom and looked amazing.

[Anonymous No.14609977]

>>14609945
Speaking of, I'm looking for a white dial diver. Thoughts on an amphibia vs a mako? Is the orient worth the extra money?

[Anonymous No.14609980]

>>14609977
Vs

[Anonymous No.14609993]

>>14609977
>>14609980
Orients are fine, but their metal bracelets are iffy.

I'm not sure how good that one is, but I had a ladies Orient with a metal bracelet and it felt real cheap.

[Anonymous No.14609994]

Can someone help ID the brand, I can't for the life of me remember and I can only find a chinese knock off

[Anonymous No.14610005]

>>14609945
I wonder, is the ratchet mechanism in the case or bezel?

[Anonymous No.14610014]

>>14609977
Depends on how much into watches you are. If you love and are knowledgeable them and love quirky stuff, Vostok is great.
If you just want a watch, ick anything else, the quirks in Vostok will drive you mad.

[Anonymous No.14610022]

>>14609977
>>14609980
I hate to burst your bubble, but both of these are unobtanium nowdays.

But as somebody who owns both, i agree with >>14609993 as Orient's bracelets are pretty terrible including the solid link ones. Of course the Orient has a movement with more features with the newer F69 cal equipped models, but they are both pretty great if you're comparing Vostok SE's and Orients. (Standard Vostoks are also nice, but are more basic)

>>14610005
If you're willing to search i think somebody checked it out and i'm sure there is a post somewhere on WUS of somebody disassembling the bezel.

IMO it's likely a single click ball, but i never really delved into it.

[Anonymous No.14610057]

>>14609993
>>14610022
Any criticisms of the orient other than the bezel? I'm going to take it off anyways as its going to be my winter watch. I'll probably put it on a sailcloth or something.
Also, just how hard are these to come by? White dial divers are surprisingly hard to come by on a budget and I'd hate to compromise again, I was originally looking for a full lume dial but gave up when I realised my only option was the promaster which I find kind of ugly

[Anonymous No.14610059]

>>14610057
*bracelet not bezel

[Anonymous No.14610145]

>>14610057
I think seiko is releasing a (possibly) full lume seiko 5 diver thing that's replacing the SKX. Not sure if you prefer that over the basedmaster.

[Anonymous No.14610166]

>>14609778
Casio DW5600 doesn't have this problem

[Anonymous No.14610174]

STOP BUYING EXCREMENT PIECES

[Anonymous No.14610208]

>>14608999
most retarded design ever, chronograph without indices wtf?

[Anonymous No.14610229]

>>14609778
Hey it's a speed master not a loopdeloop master

[Anonymous No.14610234]

>>14609681
All high end brands are associated with niggers.
A 36 datejust is timeless and built like a rock.

Only thing is be interested at ~40 more would be a journe or moser

[Anonymous No.14610297]

>>14608484
I bought this for about the same, it's really nice though I can't tell what condition the bracelet's in or even it it's original

[Anonymous No.14610329]

>>14607443
winner tier white sinn

[Anonymous No.14610340]

>>14607714
>works at a school
>also this fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.14610343]

>>14608499
fucking based

[Anonymous No.14610375]

>>14609275
I'm really curious what this sort of thing is going to do to the swiss watch market when they like to charge a 20-60k premium for a tourbillion.

[Anonymous No.14610444]

>>14608999
Better than Rolex

[Anonymous No.14610451]

>>14610375
Nothing because no one seriously looking at a high end tourbillon will be cross shopping chink shit.

[Anonymous No.14610455]

>>14607714
>nazi cross

[Anonymous No.14610460]

Thoughts on the glycine airman

[Anonymous No.14610467]

>>14610460
Try and get an older model

[Anonymous No.14610612]

>>14610375
Chinks are going to crush the Swiss within 20 years. It’ll be another quartz crisis scenario.

At the low end you have Chinese mushroom brands putting sapphire glass and NH35’s into $40 watches (Seiko still puts hardlex and NH35’s up to $400)

At the high end you have all the Seagull orbital tourbillons and Beijing(?) resonance movements etc.

China is the world’s factory and can make extremely precise stuff. The only thing stopping them is their past image of making cheap crap (which Westerners demand). Japan had the same image in the 70’s and they overcame that pretty well.

[Anonymous No.14610699]

>>14607472
pic related
$49.95 at costco.
it's a shitter, and a good one

[Anonymous No.14610707]

>>14610460
I love these things
Got my first one graduating flight school in 1975.
It got stolen in 88, so I got another.
The original, true, GMT aviator.
Everything else is for wannabes

[Anonymous No.14610721]

>>14610707
How old are you, old timer?

[Anonymous No.14610726]

>>14610612
Chinks buy rolex as status symbol, not their own chink shit.

[Anonymous No.14610797]

I think I finally met one of you /fa/ggots in the flesh last week. Young dude with an Audemars Piguet worth 27 grand, had some diamonds in it. For as much as I've fantasized about owning and wearing an expensive watch and showing it off, how much it underwhelmed me and some of the other people he showed it to, to see something worth more than my car made me realize that it ain't worth it. Buy a watch that works great and looks decent.

[Anonymous No.14610826]

>>14610460
Invicta bought em. Man I cannot figure Invicta out, they could be making better products easily but they focus on shit. I guess Seiko is trying to move away from the shit category too, it's weird when your brand has watches on sale for $40, $400, and $4000.

[Anonymous No.14610828]

>>14610726
I learned that brands like Rado are super popular in the third world too.

[Anonymous No.14610921]

Redpill me on the eco-drive

[Anonymous No.14610979]

>>14610726
Rolex will survive, but a lot of the entry/mid range Swiss brands will face stiff competition. Most of the Germans (Sinn, Damasko, Nomos) have only been around since the 90’s and have already shaken things up.

The whole Swiss entry level is basically just ETA 2824. If you can buy one for $300, why would you buy a watch for $2000 with the same movement? There’s no value add when compared to Germans (Damasko use the same movement but at least they have their case hardening, anti-mag and crown tech to justify the cost) or China (legit tourbillons at $1k). You can argue the finishing is better, but it’s just a few more operations on a CNC, not any handcrafted artisanal stuff to justify the extra cost.

[Anonymous No.14611001]

>>14610979
>1961
>The Company foundation
>Helmut Sinn, an instructor for blind flight and former World War II pilot, founds the company “Helmut Sinn Spezialuhren” in Frankfurt am Main. The company's core business is the manufacture of, navigation clocks and pilot chronographs.

[Anonymous No.14611006]

>>14610921
It's fucking shit.

[Anonymous No.14611007]

>>14611001
I mean technically yeah, but it was basically dog shit until Schmidt bought them out in 1994. All the tech they’re known for (steel, antimag, etc) is from this era. Plus Damasko was still making cases for them until recently

[Anonymous No.14611008]

>>14610612
You can't really expect jap quality from china they're just not the same tier of asian.

[Anonymous No.14611013]

>>14611007
>it was basically dog shit
https://www.watchprosite.com/horological-meandering/sinn-from-the-early-days-ref-101-with-valjoux-726-/17.1051083.7559828/

[Anonymous No.14611014]

>>14611008
historically, japs were the inbred hicks of the gook world until fairly recently

out of 1.4 billion chinamen at least a few will make decent watchmakers

[Anonymous No.14611015]

>>14611013
Unintentionally proving my point

[Anonymous No.14611023]

>>14611014
Hardly. The real chinese people were raped out of existence over a thousand years ago. China has been invaded and raped so many times throughout history what we currently refer to as the "chinese" are some kinda mutt hybrids of the various invaders.

[Anonymous No.14611041]

I completely messed up the accuracy of my old Sinn 856 by the vibrations of pushing a shopping cart over some rough pavement. I constantly have to remind myself that despite these watches having a rugged "tool watch" aesthetic they're very delicate precision instruments at the core.

[Anonymous No.14611046]

>>14611041
>muh fighter pilots
>muh special forces
btfo by a shopping trolley

[Anonymous No.14611057]

>>14610057
Those particular two? Unless one miraculously comes up on Ebay or on f29 you're not getting one.

I honestly do like the Kamasu for what it is, especially for the 120click bezel, sapphire crystal, and the F69 movement. Only downsides are the meh at best bracelet, the crown being a bit small for my meaty fingers (In comparison to the Gen 1 Ray and Mako that have an amazingly comfortable crown), same issue that i have with my NY0040.

But there isn't a white version of the Kamasu from what i've seen, and Meranom's SE models are basically available at random and are a limited number so checking his website is the only way to grab one. But are much cheaper than microbrand watches, and in case of servicing getting a 2415/2416/2432/etc movement is cheap.

[Anonymous No.14611080]

>>14611046
>>14611041
>>14611007
>>14610979

>SEETHING shills

flappy small jap dicks never cease to make me laugh

[Anonymous No.14611084]

>>14611080
sorry dude but that looks like shit

[Anonymous No.14611087]

>>14611084

>jap crap dick

opinion kindly discarded

[Anonymous No.14611093]

>>14611087
alright dude enjoy and wear it in good health

[Anonymous No.14611100]

>>14611080
Auschwitz fence edition?

[Anonymous No.14611105]

>>14610979
Perhaps, but china's advantage is cheap shameless ripoffs and affordable complications of dubious quality. They can flood the market with fancy polished turds that impress normies and poorfags then they realize they have to service these fucking things.

It's going to take a while to convince people that they're not chink shitter.

[Anonymous No.14611108]

Does anybody know what this circle on the rotor symbolizes? Some omegas from this period have them and some don't.

[Anonymous No.14611114]

Allright, I'll own up to my newfag condition: what does MOTMFM mean?

[Anonymous No.14611123]

Morning /wt/

[Anonymous No.14611136]

>>14611114

[Anonymous No.14611137]

>>14611105
Their advantage is cheap labor. Think of how expensive it is to service even a relatively basic 3 hander anywhere in the West. Now how much would it cost to employ Swiss watchmakers to put together tourbillons all day at one of the high end houses? Labor costs are why the cheapest Swiss tourbillon starts at $16000 and Chinese start at $600. There will be a difference in finishing of course, but it's not a super complicated thing to manufacture as the Swiss will lead you to believe. And there are many people on WUS with Seagull tourbillons that have run fine for years, it's not really a polished turd.

Incidentally, the Swiss started out the same way - cheap labor costs and automation. The British were once the kings of watchmaking until the Swiss moved in, undercut them, and basically wiped out their industry.

[Anonymous No.14611143]

>>14611136
So Man On The Mother Fucking Moon then? Thanks.

[Anonymous No.14611149]

https://forums.watchuseek.com/f72/new-seagull-1963-am-i-being-fussy-5027269.html

[Anonymous No.14611155]

[Anonymous No.14611164]

>>14611137
Buying a Chinese tourbillon.

Big or big meme?

[Anonymous No.14611171]

>>14611164
>tourbillion
>power reserve
>only 27 jewels
>that's only 3 or 4 more than a seiko 5
How?

[Anonymous No.14611174]

I have 7700 dollars saved guys, what should i buy

[Anonymous No.14611175]

>>14611174
defy 21

[Anonymous No.14611178]

>>14611175
Those are nigger watches

[Anonymous No.14611179]

I cultivate this kinda look and was considering getting a Nomos Glashütte or if we're getting really crazy a rep Cellini. Would it fit or no? Would you guys suggest something different? Not into the big metal watches.

[Anonymous No.14611180]

>>14611171
A Patek Grand Complications with perpetual calendar has 27 jewels and a Vostok Amphibia has 31

[Anonymous No.14611184]

>>14611178
Show me evidence that there's a nigger somewhere with a defy 21

[Anonymous No.14611187]

>>14611184
https://www.zenith-watches.com/en_en/defy-el-primero-21-swizz-beatz-2.html

[Anonymous No.14611188]

>>14611184
The anon is right anon, zenith is a certified nigger brand

[Anonymous No.14611190]

>>14611187
Ok you win. Who the fuck lets someone called swizz beatz near their brand? defy21 boner destroyed

[Anonymous No.14611202]

>>14611100
>german watch
>polish death camps

???

[Anonymous No.14611206]

>>14611202
>death camps

[Anonymous No.14611229]

>>14611123
>9:11
Reminds me of that tragedy.

[Anonymous No.14611232]

>>14611100
>muh 6 quadrazilions

[Anonymous No.14611294]

Why do need watch other than Casio $10 watch?

[Anonymous No.14611352]

>>14611294
Fashion

[Anonymous No.14611382]

>>14608173
>a good oyster perpetual rep can cost up to $1000
Fuck that might as well save a little bit and buy one used.

[Anonymous No.14611416]

>>14611382
No, the superrep oyster perpetual is $400

You can get a Milgauss tourbillon for $788. See the video here https://puretimewatch.io/milgauss-ss-label-noir-tourbillon-v9f-best-edition-on-ss-bracelet.html

[Anonymous No.14611427]

>>14611416
god i hate it so much

[Anonymous No.14611444]

>>14611229
National tragedy indeed. I walked through blood and bones in the streets of Manhattan, trying to find my brother.

[Anonymous No.14611466]

>>14611179
Too dressy. Old school Germans would look better imo. Hanhart, Stowa, Laco etc.

[Anonymous No.14611470]

>>14611179
Nomos Club would suit, or the Orion.

[Anonymous No.14611485]

>>14607982
this guy's GMT makes me want to cum every time i see it- I love the faded colors on the bezel-

[Anonymous No.14611513]

>tfw skx007 has been in shop for 3 weeks
w-what are they doing to my baby

[Anonymous No.14611536]

>>14611179
Pick up a used Club or Orion, will be fine as said already, I'd pick the Orion for the better movement.

I'd pick up a Oris big crown pointer date personally, think it would suit you perfectly, black dial.

[Anonymous No.14611567]

>>14611179
>>14611536

[Anonymous No.14611617]

>>14611513
Probably throwing away all the trash japcrap parts like the dial, hands, movement, bezel and crystal.

[Anonymous No.14611670]

>>14611513

you never know with those twisted seikopaths...

[Anonymous No.14611694]

>>14608499
Yes lad. I've been thinking about selling mine on ebay with bracelet. Was hoping to get £280 or above.

[Anonymous No.14611698]

>>14611694
>hurr durr I love this watch
>I'm selling it lmao

[Anonymous No.14611735]

>>14607479
Same, can't force myself to buy anything bellow Omega.

I guess I'll just save up for some vintage Date Just.

[Anonymous No.14611743]

>>14607714
this better be a fucking bait

[Anonymous No.14611760]

As much as I like the look of them, what's the actual point of Damasko? Why buy a $1200 mechanical "tool watch" when you can just get a shitter G-Shock to beat around?

[Anonymous No.14611773]

>>14610797
I get it for most people, myself included, 27k is unreasonable for a watch. But that PA would probably go for <10k w/ out the rocks on it. I would never realistically consider 27k for a piece but you could probably find something much nicer in that price point w/ out the extra gems.

[Anonymous No.14611774]

>>14611760
>As much as I like the look of them
Really?

[Anonymous No.14611780]

>>14611774
yeah

[Anonymous No.14611785]

Is the khaki field mechanical/automatic the best field watches out there? Give me some alternatives preferably with some poorfag options as well

[Anonymous No.14611791]

>>14611785
Also preferably in 40mm or less for my toothpick wrists

[Anonymous No.14611793]

>>14611427
The real one is $100k+ and not technically a Rolex as they swapped out the rolex movement with a tourbillon. So this $788 watch is no less or more of a Rolex than the $100k watch!

[Anonymous No.14611797]

>>14611785
Manchester watch works rattler

[Anonymous No.14611813]

>>14611760

watches are men's personal safe spaces. we couldn't conquer the world or go the moon, but on a little patch on our wrist we can create a world so intricate and perfect as we truly deserve it.

and in this damasko world, eveything is solid, reliable, tough, European, family owned, not overdone and yet beautiful to look at.

[Anonymous No.14611816]

>>14611785
If you don't mind quartz you can get a Bertucci for half the price. Sandblasted titanium, sapphire, 200m WR. Quartz + titanium means it weighs like 50 grams or something ridiculous

[Anonymous No.14611860]

>>14611816
I've been eying some I've the bertuccis I'm worried the lung length might be too much for me (as with the Hamilton's as well) since I have like a 6.5" wrist

[Anonymous No.14611918]

>>14611816
Apbt207 by alba. $80.
38mm 200m water resistant. There's also a full lume version. I would've gotten this one but I got the seiko sus quartz reissue instead.

[Anonymous No.14611955]

>>14611918
Holy shit thank you, these are pretty much what I'm looking for. Any testament to the quality of these watches? Best way to buy them being in the US?

[Anonymous No.14611990]

>>14611694
I ended up buying one of the ones from chrono24. I'll report back when it comes in. I probably won't sell my original one though. Not worth the time/effort required.

[Anonymous No.14611997]

>>14611793
>swapped out the rolex movement
Not really, no

[Anonymous No.14612126]

>>14611955
Ebay I guess? You could also buy them from rakuten but you might need to use a proxy service like buyee for that. I don't have the model personally but you could look the model up on youtube. There is a guy that reviewed them.

[Anonymous No.14612172]

>tfw placed an order for a Ploprof
>Darth Tuna pops up on a website for a not too bad price
>Got a friend asking if I want to buy his Smurf Sub
>Like a gorillion cheaper divers popping in and out of my interest
Real talk though, probably not gonna go for the Smurf, as I can't really dig how cluttered the dial looks with all the writing. Fuck off, if I wanted to spend a lot of money on writing, I'd buy a Gutenberg bible.
Gonna be hard to pass up on the Darth Tuna too, so I reckon I'll end up with a Baby Tuna instead. Really want that Ploprof, even if I'm gonna have to keep using my Helson as the only watch I have that can slip under the shirt cuff on days when I wear shirts. I can't say for sure about the Tuna/Baby Tuna, don't suppose anyone can weigh in on that?

[Anonymous No.14612180]

[Anonymous No.14612186]

>>14612180

[Anonymous No.14612404]

Is this a good everyday watch for sub-£100?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rotary-Watches-Avenger-Leather-GS90095/dp/B07812LD15/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_241_img_0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=921XTPDWNYW8GX8NX8SE

[Anonymous No.14612408]

>>14611785
why do people love these shitter watches?

[Anonymous No.14612459]

I want one

[Anonymous No.14612462]

>>14612408
Fake vintage lume, so tacky, I would buy one if it wasn't for that or the date on the older one. Wrecked it.

[Anonymous No.14612526]

How do the Chinese make watches this cheap?

[Anonymous No.14612529]

>>14612526
Everyone *makes* watches this cheap, they only *sell* it to you for more.

[Anonymous No.14612586]

>>14607605

Hitler wore a VC

Very based brand

[Anonymous No.14612600]

>>14612526
>make cheap watches out of cardboard and plastic
>eventually wind up with bins full of leftover hands, dials, and cases
>just slap all that shit together
>viola! $1 chronograph

Car manufacturers do the same thing. It's why every car lot has a lime green v6 automatic Mustang. It's just leftover parts from the manufacturer.

[Anonymous No.14612624]

I wish I had one. Today would be perfect to wear it.

[Anonymous No.14612635]

>>14612586
cool, now i want one, do you happen to know what model anon.?

[Anonymous No.14612640]

>>14607714
humanity is doomed thanks to morons like anon here

[Anonymous No.14612644]

>>14612635

Hitler notoriously liked his Vacheron Constantins the same way he liked his liked his jews;

Overseas Extra-Thin

[Anonymous No.14612652]

>>14612644

bless you my man and how can i forget the 6 gorillions, i saw speilberg documentary about it, so it must be true.

[Anonymous No.14612668]

This watch is fucking shit.

[Anonymous No.14612672]

Just ordered a GBP 50.95 Hirsch Ascot watch strap for my $20 watch.

[Anonymous No.14612673]

>>14612668
total dogshit

[Anonymous No.14612688]

>>14612668
>>14612673
Nah it's fine

[Anonymous No.14612702]

>>14612688
t.
>poor

[Anonymous No.14612723]

>>14612702
I don't own one lol, just like niche watches. They've been making that model for a really long time. Cheap, functional, minimal features but doesn't break.
It's just really unpretentious, unlike some of the shit-but-looks-expensive brands that get pedaled in these threads. I have more respect for someone that spends 15 usd on one of these than someone who pays 50 for an invicta or over 1000 for a quartz watch from an established Swiss/German brand

[Anonymous No.14612729]

>>14612723
>I have more respect for someone that spends 15 usd on one of these than someone who pays 50 for an invicta or over 1000 for a quartz watch from an established Swiss/German brand
Buy a
ROLECKS
O
L
E
C
K
S

[Anonymous No.14612747]

PINGAS

[Anonymous No.14612750]

been in the market for a new shitter, is victorinox any good? havent tried one yet

[Anonymous No.14612803]

>>14612408
muh heritage

[Anonymous No.14612830]

>>14612459
dial is way, way too big for that model's wrist, wtf

[Anonymous No.14612904]

>>14607443
This should be your favorite watch.

[Anonymous No.14612935]

>>14607534
I have the Tissot 1853.

[Anonymous No.14612941]

>>14612672
Based.

[Anonymous No.14612979]

>>14612904

>what time is it?
>uhh 1:51? maybe :52?

[Anonymous No.14613012]

NEW

>>14610256
>>14610256
>>14610256
>>14610256

[Anonymous No.14613294]

>>14612526
Fake subdials, shit case, awful straps & cheap movements.

[Anonymous No.14613297]

>>14613294
Good points. Real watches cost $10-$100.
>>14613012
Not a proper wt

[Anonymous No.14613308]

>>14613297
>Good points. Real watches cost $10-$100.
Exactly.

[Anonymous No.14613313]

What is /wt/ thinks about that watch?

[Anonymous No.14613393]

>>14612979
Will it ever matter once in your life?

[Anonymous No.14613396]

Give me one reason not to buy this

[Anonymous No.14613408]

>>14613396
I can think of no reason.

[Anonymous No.14613414]

>>14613396
Dooo eeeeett

[Anonymous No.14613415]

>>14613396
You may want to pick something to buy first.

[Anonymous No.14613417]

>>14613012
But that one is retarded :(

[Anonymous No.14613420]

>>14613417

worry more no

>>14613418

[Anonymous No.14613421]

Dear god please give me a bigger wrist so I can wear this one.

[Anonymous No.14613422]

>>14612979
>can't divide open space into four with own imagination.

Npc detected.

[Anonymous No.14613425]

>>14613420

[Anonymous No.14613434]

How much can a solid gold watch cost nowadays? My old man will be 60 in a couple of years and i really want something special for him.

[Anonymous No.14613436]

>>14611466
based choice

[Anonymous No.14613438]

>>14611567
beautiful

[Anonymous No.14613468]

Thoughts on Audemars Piguet ?