Are you fucking blind?

[Anonymous No.14300673]

The quality of all major clothes brands has decreased tremendeously. Hugo Boss is now made in Turkey, once it was in Germany, Adidas is now made in China, once it was made in Germany, Givenvhy made in China, once if was made in France, Lacoste same story, and there are many more. Even companies who still manufacture their products in the countries where they were established now use inferior materials and less noble production.
Zara is destroyed in a couple of washes, not even mentioning their sweatshops. Are you fucking blind? Why don't people start to look at different options, or invest into quality clothing for fuck sake?
Tailors are becoming extinct, even in Italy business is on it's decline, replaced by cheaper solutions. Why don't people search quality anymore? Just compare quality of your fathers or grandfathers pullover, how durable it is, and look at your cheap shit you bought in Zara or H&M. Poorly made clothes are also a vaste of precious natural resources. It's actually happening in all parts of the industry, for example furniture, computers, phones etc...or people just don't see the difference? People are dumb as fuck.

[Anonymous No.14300680]

>>14300673
All those brands are trash mall tier. Who cares.

[Anonymous No.14300681]

>>14300673
Well where do you shop OP?

[Anonymous No.14300686]

>>14300681
I try to find mint condition second hand shit. Or I buy some less known brands for which I know that still do quality, but those are dying fast or become cheaper like the rest of them.

[Anonymous No.14300693]

>>14300686
Post those less known brands

[Anonymous No.14300694]

>>14300680
They are, but most people buy them, so those companies are making profit for selling garbage. I understand that. I know that companies did this because of capital in it's power. But the thing I don't understand is why people are still buying it anyway? They support those companies and forcing others to do the same if they want to survive. That's why I care,

[Anonymous No.14300718]

>>14300673
I have noticed a drop in quality of sneakers in recent years, I bought a pair in 2017 and I used it all the time in fitness, running, walking etc and I had no problems with them, but this year i bought another pair and the quality has decresed, i guess i because they want to make more money and put less money to make them.

[Anonymous No.14300719]

>>14300693
I won't post all of them, but I'll post some of them.
For shoes: Luca Rossi, Rossini, Baldinini (well this one is known), but for shoes I think there still are many companies that have standard, so Church's, Gucci, Crokett & Jones. The last three are well known, I know, but they still do the things they should, that's what I want to point out.
For trousers, there is no good brand unfortunatelly that would be known for doing trousers.
For shirts there still are good brands. But Anna Matuozzo, Brioni, Turnbull And Asser. Brooks Brothers, Charles Tyrwhitt, Pink still aren't that well known and presented in the world as they should be.
However, for pullovers I'd choose Paul and Shark or Loro Piana, but I must say that both have decreased in quality as well. There are plenty of Italian brands for pullovers, like Santori, Pal Zileri etc.

[Anonymous No.14300721]

>>14300718
Well, it's up to you if you are going to buy them again from same brand. Which brand was it anyway?

[Anonymous No.14300730]

>>14300694
But this isn't a recent trend. All those stores have sucked for awhile. Their staying power is solely from branding or affordability.

As someone who worked for many years with vintage clothes, there's a very sharp drop in the quality of everyday clothes around late 70s early 80s and a steady decline since then.

Designer stuff fluctuates and doesn't follow the same patterns as mainstream fashion. I wouldn't focus too much on country of origin. These tags can be very misleading, and are less and less an indicator of quality.

[Anonymous No.14300740]

>>14300673
Even brands that are made in Italy are made in Prato, which has the highest Chinese population and have conditions on par with Chinese sweatshops

[Anonymous No.14300789]

>>14300673
i agree with you, but the mentality of people these days isnt the same as generations past. It doesnt make sense for them to spend a lot on quality, because the majority are trend hoppers, and wear something for a few months, then buy the next trendy piece of shit, wear it for a few months, etc. thats why fast fashion is so popular. young people can switch their styles every few months. personally i like to wear the same high quality items for many years, but young people today dont think this way. they would rather buy cheap , poorly made shit and wear it for a short period and throw it away

[Anonymous No.14300796]

>>14300730
I agree. But how to bring back that quality? Mint condition clothes in vintage shops will become rare. And it gives me anxiety that I can't find a piece of same quality, unless I made it to measure, which is also complicated because of lack of tailors and materials.

>>14300740
I've heard that yes, that some countries import Chinese people to work there. Nothing wrong with Chinese by the way, I'm not saying they can't make same quality, but it's a phrase for sweatshop workers.

[Anonymous No.14300812]

>>14300796
Even the materials they are starting to use are differen. I noticed Bugatchi new mens line is made of that fitness stretch material, idk how well it last but its def not how they use to make their button ups, it seems like a cheap move.

[Anonymous No.14300815]

yeah, boss quality is really embarassing lately

[Anonymous No.14300823]

>>14300812
I'm really irritated of all those cheap synthetic materials.

[Anonymous No.14300824]

>>14300796
>But how to bring back that quality?
Solve overpopulation, consumer apathy, and the need of public corps to constantly prove to investors maximum possible short term earnings.

[Anonymous No.14300826]

2% elastane

[Anonymous No.14300830]

>>14300826
literally makes a pant better in every aspect

stop being a philistine that hates all things new out of principle

[Anonymous No.14300831]

>>14300815
Yes, I give Boss as an example because I think they really are the worse from them all. They ain't worth a cow's shit.

[Anonymous No.14300834]

>>14300824
Yes, I know. But that's people fault because they allow it to happen.

[Anonymous No.14300838]

>>14300830
thats bs. after time, anything with 2% elastane will stretch out and lose its shape and begin to look like pajamas

[Anonymous No.14300846]

[Anonymous No.14301129]

>>14300694
Turkey is fine . There are $2000 velvety blazers by Armani made there.

[Anonymous No.14301133]

>>14300673
Adidas was practically never made in germany and has been maid in taiwan since the late 80's

[Anonymous No.14301136]

>>14300719
Based Loro Piana owner.

>>14300740
It's made in Italy so it has some standard regarding working conditions and dye processing.

Btw the only brand that has top tier quality and sometimes is made in ooga booga countries is Stone Island.

[Anonymous No.14301177]

>>14300824
>overpopulation meme
First world countries aren't overpopulated. Only shitholes like India and China are.

[Anonymous No.14301193]

>>14300673
It's a diffusion line you fucking moron
I hate you fedora tippers

[Anonymous No.14301277]

Thats it our era has opted for full nude owens where men look like tarzan washcloth and high quality mammal skins for warmth. What you kill is what u wear

[Anonymous No.14301318]

>>14301136
Read this article, they’re immigrants who were smuggled in illegally who are there for the sole purpose of driving down the cost of manufacturing, the quality of the factories they’re working in are comparable to the ones in China

https://www.google.com.pk/amp/s/www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/04/16/the-chinese-workers-who-assemble-designer-bags-in-tuscany/amp

[Anonymous No.14301467]

buying and repairing old clothes is huge brain but our culture is fucked to death ADHD retards with no sense of object permanence or long term planning

[Anonymous No.14301857]

>>14301133
It was. Just go on Etsy, a lot of track suits made in West Germany not even ridiculously priced means they won't rare

[Anonymous No.14301896]

My Hugo Boss coat was made in Ukraine

[Anonymous No.14301908]

>>14300830
no, you are a faggot. I dont buy any jean or tee if not 100% cotton

[Anonymous No.14302027]

>>14301857
Shoes tended to be made in Asia, clothes much more likley German. Same with vintage Fila; track suits made in Italy , shoes in gooksville

[Anonymous No.14302030]

> talking about mall brands
Lurk more before posting, newfag

[Anonymous No.14302081]

>>14301177
Moot point. It still feeds into the problem. Overpopulation anywhere = desperate and uneducated workforce that will be exploited by more powerful economies.