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14287636 No.14287636 [Reply] [Original]

A seed has been planted to the pile of shit know as /fa will it start to grow? Now that everyone has realized how bad the state of /fa is, how about we try to start something new and actually fashion related? And what would be better than a general for the 3% of /fa that can afford yohji and appriciate his designs!
What to post?
>suggestions for the direction of the yyg
>yohji sizing guide
>season info
>Retailer info
>pictures of yphji as inspo
>other yy inspo
i believe in you all, let's get this going!<3

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inspo

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>> No.14287654

Also quick about sizing from experiene
>dressshirts
fit one size small and then the sleeves can be quite short, atleast in older Y's for men
>pants
tts however inseam is usually quite short, but its a part of the look!

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Not much I can add, but I love his work. I could never afford it

>> No.14287867

>>14287836
mmmh i understand that well, however if you are willing to put in the effort yahoo auctions japan has some steals! You can also sell them later for big profit since yohji prices are super inflated outside of japan :) and feel free to post all the info that you want!

>> No.14287870

>>14287867
inspo*

>> No.14287879

Good thread. Im starting to be able to afford his stuff finally. Anyone know retailers in Europe? Buying from japan always means 30% tax.

>> No.14287888

>>14287879
well I always buy sale/secondhand so I'm not the best with this (also from euro) but I'd guess ssense and luis viaroma to be good! however rakuten & yahoo auction jpn for the low

>> No.14287891

>>14287879
And there might be some local stores so just google yy (city), I live in helsinki and there is only one botique but with a good selection and usually stuff can go up to -60% due to low customerbase

>> No.14287958
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His latest mens and womens shows were weaker than usual but he's still so goddamn good

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>> No.14287973

>>14287958
yeah sadly agree, but I don't believe that this would turn into a downward trend due to his solid as steel foundations! I'd love if he'd work more with linen again since it reallt fits the comfy yohji asthetic which I absolutely adore!

>> No.14287975

When Yohji dies I will cry
Also does he really design Y-3? He shows up for the runway, but it's so disappointing and disgusting.

>> No.14287978

>>14287971
based as fuck haven't seen this before had to save!

>> No.14287985

>>14287975
yeah I dont like Y-3 either, he prob plays a part in it but probably less than in the earlier collections. However I'm happy for Y-3 since it helped Yohji when he felt creatively stuck!

>> No.14287988

>>14287975
found this https://hypebeast.com/the-hypebeast-hundred-2015/nic-galway so no Y3 is not yohjis work (purely atleast)

>> No.14288104

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3zNtaeVTNo
I heard most of his story before, but never fails to touch me. But there are three key things that I really got me:
His resentment to the Japanese people after WII, he feels cheated at birth from all of the turmoil in his country and how it affected him physically and countless generations of Japanese men of women.
And his idea his clothes aren't Japanese, feeling distanced from his countries traditions he was happy when he wasn't being referred to as that Japanese designer anymore.
Lastly, when he played his favorite recording in English. I really would really like to know the source of this because he really does describe what designs to a point

>> No.14288122

>>14288104
Yes this video is truly touching, I'd love to know the song too, will look into it when I have more time! But yeah yohjis interviews make it evident that he is an true artist which I don't feel many designers are.

>> No.14288131

>>14288104
also about music&yohji https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw97ARkEwZ8 there is this masterpiece

>> No.14288148

>Only five posters
The absolute state of this board

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>>14288104
i actually went to this talk and got to meet him afterwards
super amazing experience, yohji is a legend

>> No.14288161

>>14288157
You lucky piece of shit, and your fits are fantastic too

>> No.14288162

>>14288157
shit dude never been this jealous, also looking good ;)

>> No.14288165

>>14288148
we'll 5 good posters better than 20 bad ones, desu this is allready going better than i hoped!

>> No.14288168

>>14288161
>>14288162
:D

>> No.14288208

Sice a lot pf this seems to be inspo, how about we create an inspo folder on google drive or smthing so that the same inspo won't need to be reposted all over again in the next /yyg/? also an video "archive" could be added there?

>> No.14288212

>>14288157
good shit

>> No.14288229

>>14288208
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1PPy5UQ3v70hrffS9CTuHx4BLH4y775Wx?usp=sharing
well made it so feel free to add inspo! if it gets raped i'll janny it

>> No.14288238

I'd really like to get into Yohji and copping his pieces, but I'm afraid I'll look like a LARPer. Do you know any brands that are cheaper but have a similar aesthetic?

>> No.14288251

>>14288238
well yohji does what he does the best so I wouldn't consider alternatives, however if you are worried about the price try budget methods mentioned in
>>14287888
>>14287891
also you can always start with more lowkey classics like the balloon cut shirt

>> No.14288255

>>14288238
a lot of Yohji is pretty tame though, like in this photo >>14288157

>> No.14288259

>>14288238
I love Yohji's work but I probably never year most of his work. I just can't connect to his work philsophically. I don't see his world in his destruction and turmoil and feel I can't do his clothes justice just for that. I think trying to find alternatives might be even more of a disercive. That's just how I see myself buying into a designer.

>> No.14288282

>>14288251
Looks like I'll have to start with online shopping. Never did that before because I like to see how pieces look on me before buying. Time to measure myself.

>>14288255
His white shirt does look pretty tame. But jokes aside, I think that you have to go full Yohji to make it look tame, or otherwise the fit will not look unified.

>> No.14288286

>>14288259
I can wholeheartedly understand this however keep in mind that a lot of his work is playfull and for those who just wan't to enjoy lifes absurdity!

>> No.14288301

>>14288282
yeah be sharp with that since japan sizes can be tedious! however the recent stuff has been sized closer to EU sizes

>> No.14288309

>>14288229
fuckked it up with bad res will fix later

>> No.14288325

https://youtu.be/O4F5kxw-7Uw
Where can I get this documentry? Is it just gone?!

>> No.14288333

>>14288325
don't know but let's try to figure it out!

>> No.14288361

>>14288325
apparently it might be on netflix. It's a collectors item so it's rare but found some links but they didn't work, ill tell if i find it!

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>>14288364

>> No.14288382

Good initiative, given the amount of not-knowledgeable people on /fa/ you might struggle, you don’t want to include discussion about Rei and/or Junya ?

>> No.14288387

>>14287654
this is hilariously wrong. you cant generalize how clothing fits in a canon as large as yohji's i have pants with a 36" waist i also have pants with a 30" waist both marked size 3, in addition to the fact he changed sizing convetions from letters to number and the fact hes been making clothes since the 70s the clothes don't all fit the same


>>14287975
its designed by a team and he signs off on it, he barely designs his mainline anymore why would he be wasting time on y-3.
>>14288122
yohji considers himself a dressmaker, he is not an artist he makes dresses and clothing not art. these types of videos are made to further his brand image as the "wizened japanese old man making zen clothing" so congrats you're falling for marketing.

>>14287958
literally a caricature of a yohji collection, its been the same tired motives for close to a decade now wow straps! wow!!! meme prints/paintings/epic deconstruction!!!! hilariously sad that hes doing amazingly well finnacially but has barely any input on the collection.

>> No.14288398

>>14288387
thanks 4 nothing bby<3

>> No.14288399

there was also a yohji/comme discord it was shit but if someone was in it then they could steal the resources and use them here

>> No.14288401

>>14288382
why not but how about make a /cdgg/? so that things can stay consentrated

>> No.14288406

>>14288387
also tho yes yohji sizing is a mess

>> No.14288409

>>14288401
because no one knows anything about comme des garcons here , just go to instagram.

>> No.14288414

>>14288399
dubs of basedness

>> No.14288427

>>14288401
I feel for the best of making these threads a regular thing it might be best to include other designers that are cut from the same cloth like rei instead of having two starving threads. Rei doesn't do much interviews, for a period of time she absolutely refused them. There's just not a lot of her opinions and thoughts out there

>> No.14288434

>>14288409
implying there are more people who know about yy? but yeah maybe that could work, but then adding issey seems nesessary and then this will just turn into /japang/

>> No.14288452

>>14288427
I get the point i think i'll start with this and then see if it needs support then add comme, however I don't find myself to bee a good choice to post about cdg since my knowledge is limited on that

>> No.14288483

I'll start posting videos of Yohji to the drive
Wish I saved his other documentary cities and notebooks

>> No.14288492

>>14288483
thank you so much!<3

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Tips for Yahoo/Rakuten? How do you identify good prices and quality?

>> No.14288704

>>14288492
I've posted a couple now including the antifashion documentary that includes Yohji, but also many other designers like Rei.

>> No.14288720

don't have much to contribute but very interested in yohji stuff, seem to be split between the dark stuff like ccp and yohji-esque stuff. don't feel confident enough in my current understanding to post yet

where do you guys get this stuff btw? his pants are like $100+ everywhere i go..

>> No.14288846

Women's line is a lot better than the men's. I can't put my finger on it, but there's only a few outfits I liked in SS19 mens

>> No.14288847

>>14288483
Dude you are amazing thank you also based name! Tricky general back soon? ;)

>> No.14288867

>>14288104
>>14288157
I'm at brookes and im fucking coping that you guys got to have a Talk and a Q&A with him.

the only yohji thing i own is his book Yamamoto and Yohji. im going to buy my dear bomb and a physical copy of a notebook on cities and clothes sometime soon just to build up the collection and for a good read.

>> No.14288873

>>14288867
If you can, could you make a rip of Notebook on cities and clothes. It seems to have dissipated from the internet

>> No.14288877

>>14288553
well first learn how Yens to your currency works, then figure out the price range for products that you are willing to pay good idea can be to check trailed prices and then -50% of that but it depends on your wallet, then just check the pictures closely if you can! Usually yohji construction is top notch so the only issues would come if the fabric is destroyed

>> No.14288887

>>14288873
its on amazon prime player isn't it?, you just need to sign up to another thing for like a 7 day trial and cancel it after you finish watching it. unless it's also gone from there?

>> No.14288897

>>14288887
Sadly no

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hmm it must be region blocked then as i just looked it up and it came up straight away.

>> No.14288961

>>14288911
I'm in the states, what about you?

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I know the Eva x Yohji skirt is on grailed, but still way to expensive. I wouldn't even wear it, if I had my hands on any of these pieces I'm framing it.

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>> No.14288990

>>14288961
ah yeah im in england. if i can record it from there i'll try and put it online somewhere.

>> No.14288996

>>14288975
Feel the same way lol

>> No.14289020

Listening to Yohji talk aboit pockets abd women clothes. It's his brolen english and him trying to be modest makes it so funny

>> No.14289025

>>14289020
I can't type today, Christ

>> No.14289027

>>14289020
it's a great bit!

>> No.14289138

Uploaded Music for Yohji Yamamoto to the drive

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>>14289020
*brinks fifty times trying to translate thoughts to engrish*
*rong sirence*

>> No.14289190

>>14288846
The women's line is a lot more simple and I perfer the asysmetry in their pieces more than the mens.

>> No.14289292

I know the asymmetry and the unconventional proportions are part of the allure behind Yohji Yamamoto's pieces, but I was wondering if there are some that take a more standard approach, while still maintaining the quality associated with his products.
The drape is fantastic, however, I don't think I could pull it off along with the strange proportions without having a complete outfit put together.
Any ideas?

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If you guys haven't already, please read My Dear Bomb. It's an extremely touching book and what once and for all made Yohji my favourite designer.

I was extremely lucky to find it at the Paris store during a holiday for 30 euros, since it literally goes for hundreds online, both new and used. It's in French, but I can still scan it if you guys are interested. Everyone in this thread is amazing and I don't even know you guys, I'll give translations if you really want.

I've also got the Rewind/Forward 238 Pictures book if any of you are interested, which also goes for hundreds online. This one is evidently just pictures.

Bless you all

>> No.14289313

>>14287636
White people in yohji look so bad, in Japan I'd see french? Dudes trying to wear yohji in large sizes Because length issues and it looks like they're just looking for an azngf

>> No.14289318

>>14289313
I think they look great. Yohjis always got diverse casts in his runway shows, I'm gonna have to disagree here

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>>14289310
Please do it, I'd like to read it. J'espère que mon français est assez bon.

>> No.14289332

>>14289310
I'll probably have to just pirate one, or maybe anyone knows where I can get a copy for cheap

>> No.14289337

I want to get into Yohji and I'm looking to buy my first piece, can some of you guys give me some advice or guide so I don't get scammed or end up paying more than I should?

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>>14289292
I always try to ask myself the following before buying a piece:
"can I wear this without it getting in the way at work?"
"can I do minor physical labour in this?"
"will this be bothersome to take off/put on if I go out for the night?"
"Would I be able to incorporate this into my current wardrobe?"

Lots of y's (especially older stuff that's not as print-heavy) is fairly innocuous and is much easier to incorporate into your current wardrobe (think of that kentaro sakaguchi pic that always gets posted in inspo threads- yohji jacket paired with sweatshirt, skinny jeans, and new balance). Just stay away from the really flashy stuff and you will be fine. You can look at cos and lemaire/uniqlo u for current silhouettes and then find a bunch of old yohji that will fit into the exact aesthetic. Pic related is a very simple y's denim jacket that could go well with almost anything.

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>>14289375
That kentaro sakaguchi picture

>> No.14289392

>>14289379
I was fairly certain that was an Ann Demeulemeester piece, but you're definitely right that it doesn't look out of place at all

>> No.14289404

>>14289392
Haha nope, the blurb at the bottom says it's yohji.

>> No.14289438

>>14289337
I don't have any general rules, but if you find something you're interested in I'll give it my two sense

>> No.14289519

>>14289313

yohji can look amazing on anyone if pulled off correctly, you certainly don't have to be asian but some of his pieces DO look better on asians ngl

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>>14287636
how the fuck do any of you /fa/ggots afford this shit
or is it that no one can, and we just like talking about it

>> No.14290236

>>14290111
hello trips of despair, this has been talked about itt :) here u go!
>>14287888
>>14287891

>> No.14290307

>>14288990
maybe try to use a vpn?

>> No.14290442

So 4 the next /yyg/ the start post could include
>inspo drive link
>How to get yohji 4 the low
>a reminder that yy sizing is a mess
we could also try and focus on getting our hands on more released stuff like the documentaries and so on, if we don't manage to do that here
and ofc discussion abou all the things surroundig yy
Also maybe still think about adding comme/rei,junya/issey and how to progress the general.
what yall think?
I think this has been a great start!
and obviously use this thread for as long as it lasts :)

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i haven't owned a lot of yohji but everything that i have is uncannily comfy and has some of the highest quality fabrics that i've seen in person
i do think that a lot of people follow the "black flowy baggy everything" look which is cool but there's a lot more diversity in his work i think

pic related, this fabric is insane. it has sort of an abstract floral/celtic patchwork print but it's also got a jacquard pattern of parrots and trees and stuff

>> No.14290529

>>14290509
that shitis beautifull, please post more!
also yeah have had pretty much the same experiences with the brand!

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>>14290442
I like the idea of a /japang/, it might add more discussions, insights and inspo. Unfortunately, for now I don't see the /yyg/ surviving for a long time and I can't even contribute much besides of pics because of lack of knowledge.

>> No.14290590

>>14290575
mmh yeah i get that, but I'd wish that these threads could provide a base to start from enriching the community, but yeah ill kkep it as yyg for atleast a few threads, unless someone else makes a /japg/ but we'll have to see how it goes. Nice pick btw!

>> No.14290642

>>14288553
also use this ヨウジヤマモトプールオム its yy in kanji that way you will get less results from resellers targeting eu/na markets!

>> No.14290649

>>14288720
https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/s658737634 thats 8eutos

>> No.14290654

>>14290649
euros*

>> No.14290661

>>14290649
however buying used online is always a bit risky tho!

>> No.14290686

>>14290642
>in kanji

>> No.14290703

>>14290686
:D well........ close nuff u weeb

>> No.14290972

>>14290590
/jpg/ sounds better

>> No.14291040

>>14290972
if japan general is ever made that will be the name, it's decided

>> No.14291054

>>14289310
fuck yeah man and appreciate it

>> No.14291191

>>14289332
I've looked for online pdf copies in the past but its always behind paywall scam stuff. Getting a physical one for cheap is probably doable but you'd need to be constantly looking, there's not really an abundance of copies out there unless you can read the Chinese or Japanese editions

>>14291054
np, i'll get around to it once I finish my exams, I just need to find a way to get good scans without messing the book up too bad

>> No.14291203

>>14291191
you could try to scan at your schools library ? they might have a decent scanner

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Happy that this general popped up; I used to run a discord for cdg and yohji but it's basically dead now. Here's the sticky I compiled for it though, it has a bunch of info on season codes and downloads for a couple of yohji documentaries.

pastebin.com/XBZtTHT2

Hope y'all can carry the torch for me

>> No.14291246

>>14291223
>you've been struck by

>> No.14291264

>>14291223
Would you happen to have something regarding sewing, like Showstudio's Design Download of a top?
How did the discord die?

>> No.14291266

>>14291223
wow this is amazing, thanks for sharing.
And yeah, how did the discord die?

>> No.14291276

>>14291264
>>14291266
Just a case of a lack of user base combined with a niche topic. It was a splinter server from a bunch of other fashion discords, so people just stopped using it after the new server shine wore off and people realized they didnt want to only talk about cdg and yohji. It's still up, but it's inactive and basically just a portal to access the sticky.

>> No.14291286

>>14291276
Makes sense. It's the same reason why this thread will die and should be replaced with /jpg/, there's not enough about purely yohji to talk about in the long-term

>> No.14291421

>>14291223
you are absolutely wonderful

>> No.14291581 [DELETED] 

>>14288382
Do you have a source that he's barely designing the mainline? I didn't know this but it does make sense considering his financial situation not long ago

>> No.14291589

>>14288387
Do you have a source that he barely has input in his main lines? I didn't know this but it makes sense considering his financial situation not long ago

>> No.14291590

>>14291223
love you dude copied the links to the /yyg/ drive so that if discord link get's lost there is that too!

>> No.14291631

>>14291223
currently trying to add the megas directly to drive

>> No.14291642

>>14288325
We might have it now in drive thanks to this awesome anon>>14291223

>> No.14291663

>>14291642
never mind still just the short one...

>> No.14292367

>>14291223
Downloading all the movies thanks

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bump

>> No.14294250

>>14288157
Religion = Asian Girlfriend.

>> No.14294340

We should honestly call it Karasu Zoku General so we're not just limited to YY but still maintain the aesthetic

>> No.14294903

Does anyone know where I can watch/download the 'Dressmaker' film/documentary, other than through paid channels?