/wt/ - Watch Thread - [Flieger Edition]

[Anonymous No.14110886]

This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required to make a functioning timepiece.

Thread video:
> https://youtu.be/jKXRTaaT8sA

Guides:
> Watch essentials 102: https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV
> Purchasing used watches: https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2
> Purchasing straps: https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE

Should I buy this MVMT / DW / *Fashion brand* watch?
> Scroll throught this album first: https://imgur.com/a/6CNO8

"Suggest a watch for me."
> Your budget
> Watch type, e.g. dress, diver, flieger, etc...
> Desired bracelet option, e.g. leather, nylon, metal
> Wrist size or desired watch size, e.g. 17cm / 38mm

Previous thread: >>14106801

[Anonymous No.14110889]

Does anyone know any Australian sellers I can get a good NATO strap from?

[Anonymous No.14110896]

I just graduated and I want to buy myself my first real watch. I've been using a generic digital Casio for the past 5 or 6 years.
I want a watch made from metal, not too obnoxious, but something durable, elegant and quite minimal to be honest. I know NOTHING about watches.
My budget is up to 400$. I don't mind used. I just want the watch to scream 'yeah this guy appreciates good quality and has class'

[Anonymous No.14110898]

2nd for slavshit.

[Anonymous No.14110901]

Let me ask again since the old thread is dead. I have a Seiko 5 which has around 30 hours of power reserve IIRC, this is not enough to last through the weekend. So I wanted to buy one of those long power reserve watch such as the Tissot Powermatic 80 or a derivate. Anyone has experience with these movements? Any other movement that can last at least 60 hours on a full charge?

>just recharge it during the weekend
Sure, if I wasn't retarded I wouldn't forget to recharge it every single weekend.

[Anonymous No.14110911]

>>14110901
>Powermatic 80
Literal garbage.

[Anonymous No.14110912]

$1,500 used is the minimum to buy a watch worth even putting in your wrist.

[Anonymous No.14110914]

>>14110886
My german grandaddy gave me a watch but it had an evil swasztikaka on it so i sold it for 10 dollars are a grage sale!

[Anonymous No.14110923]

>>14110911
How so? Because of the (disproven) "plastic escapement"?

[Anonymous No.14110924]

>>14110911
Can you elaborate? What's so bad about it? It's an ETA movement with reduced heartbeat. I would take the 80 hours in exchange for seconds hand smoothness. I would also assume the slower heartbeat makes the movement wear less.

[Anonymous No.14110927]

>>14110896
seiko cocktail time

[Anonymous No.14110929]

>>14110924
These weebs meme about Tissot being "Tossit", including misinforming people about the Powermatic having a plastic escapement when it clearly has a metal one. It's a parrotted uninformed forum post.

[Anonymous No.14110930]

>>14110912
Yeah, no. Unless you want to impress other autists on imageboards, even Amazon brands are respected among normies. Nobody cares about your watch, you don't need to spend so much especially if you can't afford it or need to make sacrifices for it. I would argue that in a strictly fashion point of view, some shit tier watches such as Skagen or DW are more stylish in design than many luxury ones. I personally dislike those chronographs with those huge ass numbers, date magnification lens for old men with poor eyesight, 5-10-15 for children who can't tell the time, and so on. I have to admit I really want to buy pic related (costs 80 bucks) because to me it looks good, but the fact it uses a 5 bucks chink movement and glass holds me back.

Anyway, if you're rich as fuck, you can buy whatever, but I would still set my absolute limit at 500-700 bucks max, which would still put you above 99% of people.

[Anonymous No.14110938]

>>14110896
Hamilton Jazzmaster Viematic
https://www.jomashop.com/hamilton-watch-h32715531.html

Certina DS-1 Powermatic 80
https://www.jomashop.com/certina-watch-c029-407-16-081-00.html

Or just have a browse through here and just ask us about your selection:

https://www.jomashop.com/watches-for-men.html?dir=desc&movement=Hand+Wind%2CAutomatic&order=bestsellers&p=6&price=-500%2C&style=Luxury+Watches%2CCasual+Watches%2CDress+Watches

[Anonymous No.14110941]

>>14110886
I don't know who that is but she has great taste in watches.

[Anonymous No.14110942]

>>14110930
You don't own any good watches, so nobody cares what you think about good watches.

[Anonymous No.14110947]

>>14110886
Who is she?

[Anonymous No.14110952]

What is a good diver that is <250€ and doesn't look like a Submariner clone?

Orient Mako?

[Anonymous No.14110953]

>>14110929
I think it refers to "high tech escapement" on the lower end p80 mvmts. I googled it and while it is definitely some type of plastic polymer, the information on whether or not it's better or worse than traditional metallic escapements is mixed and I don't have the technical knowledge to tell if it makes any difference other than lowering the price of the watch (even if the plastic piece wears quicker, these watches have a reduced beat rate to keep that power reserve so it would wear less either way I assume?).

But then again I might just stop being an autistic fag and just buy a quartz, mechanical is cool and all but it's too much of a hassle imo, if I were ever to buy a second watch, the first one would pretty much always be empty if it only has 30 or so hours of reserve like this one I have.

[Anonymous No.14110960]

>>14110941
>>14110947
Austrian cutie Nadine Leopold.

[Anonymous No.14110995]

>>14110942
99.9% of people don't have any "good" watches. You should just buy whatever looks good to you (it should also match your overall style IE don't buy a dress watch if you dress like a nigger).

If you spend 500 bucks you can get a very respectable watch that will put you above the vast majority of people already if that's what you care about, also it will probably be worth passing down and using for a lifetime. If you're in a permanent competition in your richfag circle on who spends the most on vanity items, that's another story. But saying that you MUST spend over a grand is a huge fucking meme.

[Anonymous No.14110997]

Thinking of buying this.
Any good?
This will be my first serious watch and I intend to wear it daily.

[Anonymous No.14111009]

>>14110995
Your seikno isn't respectable. Bill Gates wearing a $50 watch is cool because hes trying to show that he doesnt care even though he could easily wear the fanciest watches ever made. Some 4chan loser wearing a $500 watch isnt cool or respectable because most of you dont even own a vehicle, and youre wearing a $500 watch because thats a lot of money to you and you think it will matter that its a $500 seikno instead of a $50 seikno. Its still a seikno. Its still trash. Youre still a weeb. You still have bad taste. You still have no money. A $1,000 used breitling or omega would be infinitely better, but you dont make enough money to responsibly purchase anything let alone a $1,000 piece of jewelry. A $500 piece of jewelry is pathetic.

[Anonymous No.14111016]

>>14111009
So much projecting to justify your 1500 bucks paperweight. Seiko is fully respectable and has as much heritage as any Swiss brand. It's also a common brand and normies will recognize it as a quality\classy watch before they recognize some obscure luxury richfag brand.

On top of that, servicing a Seiko is gonna be cheaper than servicing an Omega. I think lots of people buy expensive watches and then run them to death by never servicing them because they don't feel like spending 500 bucks for service on top of the 2000 they spent to purchase the watch itself.

[Anonymous No.14111019]

>>14111016
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA HES SERIOUS!!!!!

[Anonymous No.14111023]

>>14110952
That or SKX unless you're one of those autists who think a watch having a bezel and a black dial automatically make it a submariner clone.

[Anonymous No.14111034]

>>14110889

Why not order from cheapestnatostraps? Shipping costs? Also, To answer your question in the last thread. High quality natos are more rigid and sometimes have nicer hardware. I prefer the cheaper ones actually because they form to your wrist more easily. And I like when they look a little shitty, they're meant to be used.

[Anonymous No.14111073]

>>14111034
My experience is that shipping costs will fuck you pretty hard, so I'd prefer an australian seller if possible.

I see NATO straps floating around on ebay for about 15-20 AUD, the reason I asked about NATO quality is I don't want to order some piece of shit strap that feels like ass (at least relatively speaking) on your wrist, but I have no real experience with the subject so I don't know if that's something to be concerned about.

[Anonymous No.14111074]

>>14110960
IBTC>>>

[Anonymous No.14111089]

Hey guys how do you like my rad new watch?

[Anonymous No.14111118]

>>14110997
Nothing wrong with it. I wouldn't fork over 500€ for a quartz, probably.
Wish they would have put a 6 instead of a date, but maybe i just hate date windows too much.
Looks too fat due to the added material on the lugs.

[Anonymous No.14111156]

>>14111089
64 BITS

[Anonymous No.14111161]

Thoughts on Mühle?

[Anonymous No.14111166]

>>14111111

[Anonymous No.14111173]

>>14111161
>Large 5,10.15.20 just as prominent as the hours
Is this watch for idiots who don't know how to read analog time?

[Anonymous No.14111184]

>>14111161
the thinking man's watch company

[Anonymous No.14111187]

>>14110901
Probably ok
I forget if the 6r15 (seiko) was close enough or not
>>14111016
>replying to frogposters

[Anonymous No.14111201]

>>14111184
>Seigfried that watch needs more style
>Ok hans Look I added a pointless ring of blue paint around the edge of the dial, effectively decreasing it's diameter.

[Anonymous No.14111216]

>>14111201
Still better than any Seiko shitter out there.

[Anonymous No.14111223]

>>14111216
hardly. Adding that gay stripe ruined the 3:00 marker too what a bunch of amateurs.

[Anonymous No.14111225]

>>14111216
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[Anonymous No.14111391]

>>14110929
I'd really like an answer to this. Is the movement disposed when they 'service' that powermatic? Or are they confident that it survives just as long as a metal one?

[Anonymous No.14111461]

I've always worn my watch on the right.
Am I in the wrong for this?

[Anonymous No.14111490]

>>14111461
Casually, it is not much of an issue. Formally you will be expected to wear it on the left but 99% of people really won't care.

[Anonymous No.14111499]

>>14111034
they take two months to ship

[Anonymous No.14111509]

I’m thinking of buying bulova lunar watch. Is it dum idea paying 700€ for a quartz watch?

[Anonymous No.14111518]

>>14111509
Where does I cost that much? My watchmaker has a couple in his case for less than $400.

[Anonymous No.14111519]

Okay lads, I don't own a watch but would like to get a cheap, low-key silver watch for basic social stuff.

What's a good watch in the price range of say... 50-100€? I talking the kind of watch you can wear to parties and casual stuff.

I know fuck-all about watches by the way.

[Anonymous No.14111538]

>>14111518
I live in Finland and I found only two shops selling these and both for 700€. If I order watch outside of finland, I will have to pay import taxes and in the end it will cost me almost same amount.

[Anonymous No.14111551]

>>14111509
It’s a really cool watch, and it’s the most affordable legit moon watch.
If you like it, get it. There’s nothing wrong with quartz watches, unless you care about what snotty people on the internet think about you.

[Anonymous No.14111552]

>>14111519
check out seiko 5 and orient

[Anonymous No.14111571]

>>14111519
Timex or just classic casio. Thay are cheap and good.

[Anonymous No.14111576]

>>14111519
Seiko 5 hands down if you want an automatic.
You can get a Bulova 262 uhf quartz watch used in that price range as well, which is a really cool watch with a unique movement. It’s the only watch aside from the expensive spring drive seikos that has a sweeping seconds hand. Look it up on YouTube.
Or if you want to save a lot of money there are a lot of nice offerings from Casio/timex/orient/citizen/etc

[Anonymous No.14111658]

[Anonymous No.14111664]

watch thread more like gay thread

[Anonymous No.14111676]

>>14111391
Reading comprehension. Look at the damn photo, it shows the Powematic 80 literally has a metal escapement, why would they bin it during a service? People are confusing the Powermatic with the Sistem51.

[Anonymous No.14111678]

>>14111519
read, brother
imgur.com/a/NFMXDuK

[Anonymous No.14111713]

>>14111073
>some piece of shit strap that feels like ass (at least relatively speaking) on your wrist, but I have no real experience with the subject so I don't know if that's something to be concerned about.

I have some <$3,- NATOs from Aliexpress, and sometimes they're a bit rough on the wrist. Usually due to stitches being a little rough or sharp. You can fix that by running a flame (lighter, candle, something small like that) past it once or twice to get the rough edges to melt and round up a bit..

[Anonymous No.14111734]

>>14111173

Type-B flieger dials have the minutes even more prominently, especially compared to the Type-A which only showed hours. If you use a watch to navigate, minutes are more important than hours.

That watch has 'nautical instruments' written on the dial, so possibly a nod to a marine chronometer, or the navigating heritage of clocks/watches.

I think it looks good btw.

[Anonymous No.14111759]

>>14111734

Googled on a bit, and it's even more interesting and cool imo.. They based the dial design off an old indicator gauge Muhle used to make back when they made all kinds of fine instruments.
>pic

[Anonymous No.14111762]

Related to >>14111519

I do own a watch which I haven't used yet(doesn't fit my wrist and I haven't bothered fixing it). It's a Champion watch model C7322, pic related.

Is it worth buying a new watch(one of the ones you all recommended) or should this one be fine? Is orange fine?

[Anonymous No.14111785]

>>14111762

Watches are a very personal choice to be honest.. If you think that watch is fine, it's fine. And honestly, based on your budget and what you want ($100 steel daily watch) I would have recommended you something like that.. I googled it, and it's listed between €40-€100,- in Europe. I've never heard of the brand, it to be honest it looks a little meh..

If you want something similar in the same price range, I can recommend Citizen and Seiko, for analog quartz watches.

I have pic related, which looks slightly better than that Champion based on pictures, at a similar price. (+-€90-120)

[Anonymous No.14111806]

Redopill me on Grand Seiko

[Anonymous No.14111816]

>>14111806
overpriced weeb watches

[Anonymous No.14111842]

>>14111806

Coolest technology, best finish but not a lot of great designs in my opinion.

Worth getting for the seething (you)'s alone.

[Anonymous No.14111845]

>>14111016
>Seiko
>Heritage

[Anonymous No.14111873]

>>14111845
Seiko founded in 1881
Rolex founded in 1905
Omega founded in 1848
Tudor came to be in 1926
Patek Phillipe in 1839
AP In 1875
Cartier started making watches in 1911
All seem legit to me

[Anonymous No.14111879]

>>14111873
>Heritage = age
Seiko Derangement Syndrome seems to have had devastating effects on this individual's psyche.

[Anonymous No.14111880]

>>14111873
The company was founded in 1881 when Kintarō Hattori opened a watch and jewelry shop called "K. Hattori in the Ginza area of Tokyo, Japan. Eleven years later, in 1892, he began to produce clocks under the name Seikosha.

>Eleven years later, in 1892, he began to produce clocks under the name Seikosha.

>Eleven years later, in 1892, he began to produce clocks under the name Seikosha.

>Eleven years later, in 1892, he began to produce clocks under the name Seikosha.


Lol.

[Anonymous No.14111883]

Casio gbd 800
Fucking love having pedometer data on my phone and being able to set alarms and customize timers remotely. It's a neat fucker.

[Anonymous No.14111884]

every /wt/
>hey guys looking for a casual but dressy watch
>hesalite back and saphire front
>needs a croc grain leather strap
>preferably solid gold
>budget is in between my belly button lint and toe cheese thanks!

[Anonymous No.14111885]

>>14111883
What are you measuring pedos for?

[Anonymous No.14111896]

>>14111873
seiko didn't produce any watches under that name until 1924 btfo

[Anonymous No.14111897]

>>14111879

>still mad about the quartz revolution

kek

[Anonymous No.14111900]

>>14111509
Pretty dumb, 700€ for a quartz AND a Japanese watch? Plenty of European and mechanical watches out there at that price point. Only get that watch if you truly like it.

[Anonymous No.14111905]

>>14111880
> The first watches produced under the Seiko brand appeared in 1924.

[Anonymous No.14111909]

>>14110886
just got pic related. It's kinda a piece of shit, loses about a minute per day, but it was cheap as fuck. I like the style though. Can anyone recommend a better quality watch that looks similar?

[Anonymous No.14111910]

>>14111897
seiko is so shit for anything beyond their budget value watches. inb4 grand seiko, nobody takes that seriously

[Anonymous No.14111914]

>>14111897
>Being proud of producing literal shit

[Anonymous No.14111917]

>>14111900
fyi the watch is the first quartz to go to the moon

[Anonymous No.14111919]

>>14111909
Japs nicked European design. That's a Type B Flieger, plenty of watches out there. What's your budget?

[Anonymous No.14111920]

>>14111910
>>14111914

I can't hear you over the sound of the Swiss watchmaking industry almost going bankrupt.


Also, when are we going back to /g/?

[Anonymous No.14111925]

>>14111917
Do you think I'm some sort of söyed bugman and that I'm supposed to be impressed by that?

[Anonymous No.14111926]

>>14111919
like 300$

[Anonymous No.14111927]

Always remember, your watches should be like like your women: thin and european.
HH brothers, Söyko niggers stay mad.

[Anonymous No.14111930]

>>14111920
>Having plastic inside your watch.
Lol

[Anonymous No.14111931]

>>14111920
that literally didn't happen. people were enthralled with new technology found out eventually mechanical is the shit
>>14111925
what the fuck are you saying

[Anonymous No.14111932]

>>14111919
>That's a Type B Flieger

Revised version though. The inspiration is clear, but the proportions are different.


It looks better in black btw.

[Anonymous No.14111935]

>>14111931
>that literally didn't happen


Never stop posting here.

[Anonymous No.14111940]

>>14111926
https://www.jomashop.com/hamilton-khaki-field-mens-watch-h69419933.html

Nice Swiss movement, enjoy.

[Anonymous No.14111944]

>>14111940

Water resistance?

[Anonymous No.14111946]

>>14111926
Some other Hamilton Fields https://www.jomashop.com/hsearch/#keyword=hamilton%20field&sort=salepriceasc&mpp=20

[Anonymous No.14111949]

>>14111944
50 metres

[Anonymous No.14111951]

>>14111930
So what? People still by tissot’s.

[Anonymous No.14111958]

>>14111951
let me know when you find a plastic part inside of a Heritage Petite Seconde

[Anonymous No.14111959]

>>14111951
Here comes the plastic escapement meme again. You know you sound so uninformed right? >>14110929 Is literal proof.

[Anonymous No.14111962]

So, is it Seiko shills trying to make European brands look bad by false flagging or what

[Anonymous No.14111964]

>>14111879
What’s is Rolex doing to better themselves?
They haven’t innovated anything in the past 50+ years.
Only thing they have done is bettered their marketing.
Wow.

[Anonymous No.14111965]

>>14111958
Atrocious Amerimutt curriculum grammar. "by" "tissot's", No wonder your taste is so shit.

[Anonymous No.14111967]

>>14111958
Ok so one of their watches doesn’t have plastic in it.

[Anonymous No.14111968]

>>14111964
Is Rolex the only European brand?

[Anonymous No.14111969]

>>14111964
>Rolex no innovation meme
For me, it's the Rolex Sky-Dweller.

[Anonymous No.14111976]

>>14111967
lots if their heritage series doesn't. it's called price point

[Anonymous No.14111979]

>>14111927
Based & patrician-pilled.

[Anonymous No.14111980]

>>14111964
Because all of Rolex's recent innovation have been due to material science and improvements to the movements. None of which is visible.

[Anonymous No.14111983]

>>14111969
So adding in a couple more gear wheels is innovation?

[Anonymous No.14111984]

>>14111964
>In 2005, Rolex introduced a new patented process to modify the surface of the Parachrom hairspring and thereby further reinforce its long-term stability. This same treatment produces its characteristic blue colour.

[Anonymous No.14111985]

>>14111964
What is parachrom? What is syloxi?

[Anonymous No.14111986]

>>14111983
Now you're just baiting. Enjoy! Your last (You) from my part!

[Anonymous No.14112000]

>>14111986
The calendar THE selling point for the sky fwrller. Which was made of a few new gear wheels.
>>14111980
Using better materials is not advancing horology.
Plus for all their innovations you would think they wouldn’t have constantly borrow springs and shit from swatch.

[Anonymous No.14112003]

>>14112000
>Using better materials is not advancing horology.

[Anonymous No.14112012]

>>14111958
>let me know when you find a plastic part inside of a 70 year old movement design
You got him.

[Anonymous No.14112013]

>>14112000
i know this is bait but just so you know the basic design of a mechanical watch hasn't changed in 300 years. the only innovations are materials and complications

[Anonymous No.14112017]

>>14112003
>goes from using 316L to 904L.
Those guys are absolute madmen. I don’t know how they can get away with pushing the envelope like that.

[Anonymous No.14112018]

>>14112012
the design is old, how does that change the fact that he said tissot has plastic inside which is invariably false.

[Anonymous No.14112031]

>>14112013
So
>board meeting at Rolex
>should we design something new or just use the same movement we have been using for the past 70 years?
>engineer: don’t make me do stuff
>sounds good to me.

[Anonymous No.14112036]

>>14112018
No one apart from the imaginary strawmen in your head said that it does.

[Anonymous No.14112037]

>>14112031
your iq is too low bruh

[Anonymous No.14112038]

>>14112031
Answer me, is Rolex the only European watchmaker out there?

[Anonymous No.14112062]

>>14112031

[Anonymous No.14112074]

I want a very accuate watch. Should I settle for something with radio recieved time or spend money on a Citizen Chronomaster or Longines VHP, or a Bulova Precisionist or Accutron? I just want accurate time. Does a certain technology have the best radio controlled time or are they all the same?

[Anonymous No.14112096]

>>14112074
If all you want is accuracy just use a phone.

[Anonymous No.14112100]

[Anonymous No.14112102]

>>14112074
If you want accuracy over anything else then you should just buy quartz, or one of those cool radio thingys. Junghans have one of those radio watches, very accurate.

[Anonymous No.14112108]

>>14112100
>no plastic in there, looks good to me

[Anonymous No.14112115]

Reminder that these are the weebs you are arguing with.

[Anonymous No.14112117]

>>14112100
the world's first watch to be made entirely of plastic, movement included. the result of 20 years of research and partnership with omega, plus what spawn the system 51

[Anonymous No.14112126]

>>14112115
>tries to prove tissot's have plastic parts by literally posting a watch that was literally and specifically designed to be the world's first watch produced in plastic
muh CROC GRAIN

[Anonymous No.14112132]

>>14112108
I. Am. Fucking. Dead.

[Anonymous No.14112133]

>>14112096
Pocket watches are why we now have wrist watches, no.

[Anonymous No.14112140]

>>14112115
Damn, you're obsessed.

[Anonymous No.14112145]

>>14112115
KEK. That doesn't even look like calf.

[Anonymous No.14112150]

>>14112140
Damn, your proper leather strap is a meme.

[Anonymous No.14112163]

>>14112115
Why the fuck does that leather have stretch marks?

[Anonymous No.14112175]

Just a reminder that’s omega charges 300$ for a fucking nato strap.

[Anonymous No.14112184]

>doesn't wind
>doesn't set
>doesn't really want to run
>something is definitely wrong with the ring-rotor
Yup. Should be either a fun or a disastrous build.

>>14112140
Yeah, I wonder what I did to that guy.

[Anonymous No.14112186]

>>14112184
Externally it's pretty fucking wrecked, but we'll see what a little Cape Cod and a new crystal can do.

[Anonymous No.14112189]

>>14112074

If money is no object, go Seiko Astron. It's not radio controlled by GPS controlled, meaning it picks up its time signal directly from GPS-sattelites, which keep time via atomic clock.. If money IS an object, there are FAR cheaper radio-controlled watches out there. Digital will probably be least expensive..

Oh, if you're in the US you might want to check the status of radio wave time. I keep reading these memes about the US govt being to poor to keep the signal up or something.

[Anonymous No.14112192]

>>14112189
>It's not radio controlled by GPS controlled
*but GPS controlled

[Anonymous No.14112218]

>>14112186
Also checking Cousins, looks like this acrylic crystal with the inner cyclops exists, yay! I was worried about losing that with a crystal change, but then again I'm not sure if the movement is totaled or not.

[Anonymous No.14112226]

>>14112074

Chronomaster or Seiko 9F models are solid choices.

[Anonymous No.14112228]

Have started saving to get pic related.

I think the reversibility of these watches is super neat and would actually be useful to me.

[Anonymous No.14112240]

>>14112228
>saving for a watch

[Anonymous No.14112242]

Tried on my buddy's black bay black last night, loved it. i couldn't pull it off since my wrists are smaller than his, so that's why i'm on the waitlist for a BB58 from the local AD.

[Anonymous No.14112245]

>>14112240
Its probably the most pathetic thing ever. Its like a girl saying she is saving for a necklace lol

[Anonymous No.14112254]

>>14112245
Probably the only thing worse is putting expensive watches on shitters. That's why I only put a $6 strap on this quartz-crisis shitter 6309 that I traded for a dial-damaged Roamer and one of my many Cosmotrons.

[Anonymous No.14112260]

>>14112242
The bb58 still has a lug to lug at 48mm even tho it's 39mm. It's kinda like wearing a speedmaster in terms of size.

[Anonymous No.14112269]

Here's the unsolveable problem Seiko has.

[Anonymous No.14112273]

>>14112240
>>14112245
Post your collections.

[Anonymous No.14112276]

>>14111762

[Anonymous No.14112281]

>>14111927
>your watches should be european
You mean infested with mudslimes?

[Anonymous No.14112282]

>>14112269
Could be worse. Could be poor Rolex who no longer stands out in the sea of Submariner and Datejust knockoffs.

[Anonymous No.14112288]

I already own this watch in pic: >>14111762

And I've been thinking that I might not need another silver watch if I decide to keep it. Instead, I'm looking at some sort of leather watch as an alternative(pic related)

Orient defender caught my eye(also would you trust this ebay seller: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Automatic-watch-ORIENT-FET0N003Y0-Defender-10-ATM-New/392223540923?hash=item5b525846bb:g:Wu4AAOSwYuNbPjRU))

It looks nice and within my price range... I do like the brown, but is black more versatile?

If you had to pick a leather watch of similar quality/aesthetic/price which one would be your first pick?

[Anonymous No.14112289]

>>14112273
Why do you want to see a pile of affordable but quality watches that I bought with some loose money I had at the end of the month?

[Anonymous No.14112296]

>>14112288
Defender is a big watch, what's your wrist size anon

[Anonymous No.14112304]

>>14112260
yes and no. I've owned a speedy before, and i've tried a 58 on my wrist as well. The major difference is the speedy is TALL, at least the hesalite version i had was. the extra height makes it wear much chunkier than a 58 even if a lot of that thickness came from the crystal.

along with the bezel and lug size being much different from each other, i would say the 58 is a much more comfortable and svelte watch, probably the only other thing i can say that feels like it is a non maxi case sub or an explorer 1.

[Anonymous No.14112306]

>>14112289

So that he can call them a pile of shitters, and claim that you shoulda saved for ONE PROPER WATCH.

Because that's the hottest meme in watchblogger world.

[Anonymous No.14112315]

>>14112281
pathetic attempt bucko

[Anonymous No.14112341]

>>14111927
Hulk Hogan, Honk Honk, Haute Horlogerie, brother. Whatever it is I can’t keep track of the lingo jingo these days. Say hello to the kids for me.

Bill

Sent via TapaTalk on my iPhone 7

[Anonymous No.14112345]

>>14112341
Haute Horlogerie, brother. You were correct.

[Anonymous No.14112365]

[Anonymous No.14112388]

Not sure if I'm retarded or not but I'm having trouble finding a watch strap.
Blue, leather, 20mm, preferable if it's a dash longer than regular, 200mm total length seems standard to some manufacturers and is good to me. Around the $20 USD range not including shipping. And in Aussie would be perfect but shipping to Aussie is fine.
I have been looking for the past hour but an battling.

[Anonymous No.14112396]

>>14112388
Wouldn’t find a quality one for 20$ kangaroos/USD brother.

[Anonymous No.14112399]

>>14112296
I just measured it, and depending on how far up you go, it's between 16cm and 17cm. How big is the watch? Isn't it a bit more adjustable anyway, with the strap?

[Anonymous No.14112400]

>>14112388
Get a croc-gain calf, but proper leather.

[Anonymous No.14112405]

>>14112240

Saving for watches is the reason I have a 4 watch collection that total more than $15k in value while still being able to afford a nice house and a car my dude.

I don't just go around dropping $6k on anything that I realistically do not need. That JLC would be the first watch I would buy in 3 years.

[Anonymous No.14112410]

>>14112396
Pastebin says there are some decent options in the 20 Americanpeso range. What would you recommend ignoring the price range then? And where from
>>14112400
That's what I want but I didn't include a finish to try open up more options because I might be being too specific, though I'm sure it's the colour that is killing me. I can't seem to find a good one. Where would you get that strap from?

[Anonymous No.14112414]

>>14112410
Agree on the croc-grain calf, but proper leather. >>14112115

[Anonymous No.14112423]

>>14112115

What is this then ? Like leather from a croc that has eaten a calf?

[Anonymous No.14112432]

>>14112410
Have you tried looking on Etsy?

[Anonymous No.14112436]

>>14112423
Nah mate, it’s leather from a Chinese calf that saw a crocodile once from afar.

[Anonymous No.14112440]

>>14112423
They are only made for sheitko’s.

[Anonymous No.14112445]

>>14112423
>>14112436
KEK

[Anonymous No.14112449]

>>14112432
I know nothing about esty
Something like this?
https://www.etsy.com/listing/664020594/royal-blue-vegetable-tanned-watch-strap?ga_order=price_asc&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=blue+leather+watch+strap&ref=sc_gallery-1-5&plkey=08b41edfe14ee575ba86c3221ae407c9c31d44d5%3A664020594
Jesus what a link

[Anonymous No.14112460]

>>14112410
What watch are you putting it on? Here’s something, it’s from the US though https://www.etsy.com/listing/609862070/dassari-premium-crocodile-embossed

[Anonymous No.14112462]

Wait, there is a meme against *insert lizard here* embossed calf leather straps?

[Anonymous No.14112464]

>>14112462
*croc-grain calf, but proper leather

[Anonymous No.14112467]

>>14112423
It's calf leather with a croc-pattern pressed on it. Basically imitation croc.

Most watches under $1000 will have that.

Ironically the sperg forcing this meme got butthurt over me calling the Tossit of his dreams a shitter, while they put "embossed cow leather alligator look alike" straps on their $1800 chronometers. How embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.14112472]

>>14112462
Nah just one butthurt swissdrone.

[Anonymous No.14112476]

>>14112460
Yeah something along those lines seems good to me. It's SARX045 I have a blue strap on it now but it was a cheap one and is starting to crap out, I thought I would double what I spent on it to see how much better the quality is.
Wish the bracelet had micro adjustments to it because then I would just use that.

[Anonymous No.14112480]

>>14112467
There's nice imitation croc and there's chewn by croc grain. Yours is the latter and no, I'm not the Tissot guy. Can't you see the people commenting on the quality of the leather? There's a tremendous difference between a real proper lether, croc-grain strap vs your croc-grain calf, but proper leather strap.

[Anonymous No.14112496]

>>14112480
It's a $6 strap on an old Seiko I traded on impulse, who gives a shit?

It's literally one Pajeet who got his feelings hurt some time in the past.

Okay, how's this: I PROMISE everyone on /wt/ next time I'll put a $100 genuine croc Hirsch on this forty year old Seiko worn down to a °220 amplitude, holy shit are you people for real?

[Anonymous No.14112498]

>>14112460
If you know anything about esty is this one alright? >>14112449
It has some extra length which I like.

[Anonymous No.14112505]

Either way Tissot is a fucking garbage brand and everyone defending it literally deserves to be shot in the head. Here's your Swiss haute horlogerie, goys.

[Anonymous No.14112508]

>>14112410
https://www.hirschstraps.com/products/hirsch-highland-calf-leather-watch-strap-blue?variant=1317566488
This?

[Anonymous No.14112513]

>>14112498
Yeah, it's fine. makes sure to choose the 20/18 option. It ships from Vietnam, scroll down a bit and you'll see review with photos.

[Anonymous No.14112521]

>>14112505
Tissot isn't doing mass line isn't haute horlogerie nior have they claimed it is you idiot. Someone wearing a Tissot fuck your girl?

[Anonymous No.14112527]

>>14112505
Tissot's mass line isn't haute horlogerie nor have they claimed it is you idiot. Someone wearing a Tissot fuck your girl?

[Anonymous No.14112529]

>>14111927
>not liking thicc chingchong women

[Anonymous No.14112530]

I already own a silver/metal watch, and am looking at buying a leather watch for around €50-150-ish. I looked at the Orient Defender(brown leather, 2013). I was told that it's a decently sized watch and my wrist measures at around 16mm. How do I know if this watch fits my wrist assuming I can't test it IRL?

[Anonymous No.14112533]

>>14112521
>Tissot isn't doing mass line isn't haute horlogerie nior have they claimed it is you idiot
What is this sentence even? Angry much?

[Anonymous No.14112535]

>>14112529

[Anonymous No.14112544]

>Why yes, I do like watches that are both made in Europe and of little thickness. How could you tell?

[Anonymous No.14112555]

>>14112544
>How could you tell?
Looks like a stereotypical German Uhrmacherkunst owner.

[Anonymous No.14112557]

>>14112529
>Miscegenation

[Anonymous No.14112559]

>>14112186
Dial looks like it should be in good condition though?

[Anonymous No.14112560]

>>14110886
OP where the fuck are you finding all these girls? Keep it up.

[Anonymous No.14112562]

>>14112559
Hard to tell with the busted-up crystal. The mark between nine and ten looks to be on the dial. Meh I'll live with that. I'm not even sure I'll keep it even. I just wanted the movement.

[Anonymous No.14112571]

>>14111201
the contrast helps with visibility

[Anonymous No.14112580]

Also today this arrived.

At 1 yen I still feel like I overpaid. It has a pretty good automatic caliber, but the fucking uggo bastard is unsellable.

[Anonymous No.14112584]

>>14112580
You overpaid by even looking at the listing weeb

[Anonymous No.14112589]

>>14112467
You seem buttblasted that your strap became a meme. Just take it easy bro, at least it's not vasectomy-watch level.

[Anonymous No.14112590]

thoughts on this meme watch, /wt/? I'm thinking about picking one up. I can't imagine it'll lose much value if I ever decide to sell it, so it's pretty much a freeroll

[Anonymous No.14112600]

I can't see why some people take Grand BASEDko.
Take the Spring Drive. Its name implies a fully mechanical movement.
NO. The regulation mechanism is a Quartz clusterfuck controlled by a MICROPROCESSOR.
This means that if the chip dies, no watchmaker will be able to repair it without the replacement. This means that at the end of the day, it's just a FUCKING QUARTZ WATCH.

[Anonymous No.14112604]

>>14112530
Yeah your wrists mean 40mm hard limit, whereas the defender is 42
Save up for a mechanical 38mm hamilton imo

[Anonymous No.14112606]

So what's the best grand seiko?

[Anonymous No.14112608]

>>14112600
>chip dies
Which happens pretty much never.

[Anonymous No.14112616]

>>14112608
>solar flare
>atomic bombs

[Anonymous No.14112617]

>>14112606
Define best.

[Anonymous No.14112619]

>>14112600
Traditional guy here. I don’t like quartz because it’s just like cheating, to me. Soldered chips on boards, batteries, etc. Takes the authenticness out of a watch. A watch is a technical feat of micro-engineering, using what basically is a computer to tell the time is just cheating to me, it’s nothing impressive. What’s impressive is all these metal parts, moving in harmony, flawlessly to be able to keep and tell the time +/-1 spd. I don’t really feel like typing more but that’s the general feeling I have with quartz and why I’ll never wear one, emphasis on this being MY opinion.

[Anonymous No.14112621]

>>14112606
snowflake

[Anonymous No.14112626]

>>14112619
I agree but there are some rabid quartz lovers here so be warned that anyone who doesn't like it will get abused.

[Anonymous No.14112627]

>>14112606
Apparently they're coming out with something new this year, so it might change.

But other than that, probably a 44GS cased one for that unique design.
For me personally, I love the SBGV245 (see pic); sporty, elegant, quartz.

No-holds barred, the SBGD201.
I'd seriously consider it over a Lange if I had the money to splurge.

[Anonymous No.14112629]

>>14112616
>shit that literally never happens
Fuck off.

>>14112619
*tips fedora*

[Anonymous No.14112634]

>>14112627
> quartz

[Anonymous No.14112636]

I find this thread's lack of Seiko disturbing

[Anonymous No.14112640]

>>14112636
What the fuck are those hands

[Anonymous No.14112641]

>>14112636

[Anonymous No.14112644]

>>14112634
For a 2-3k sports watch? Absolutely.

Personally, I think mechnicals only make sense when they're actually hand finished.
If you're getting a mechanical movement that's 99% machine-made, might as well stop pretending and get a fucking quartz.

[Anonymous No.14112645]

>>14112636

[Anonymous No.14112647]

>>14112640
Can't you tell? They are obviously meant to be mini Katana's.

[Anonymous No.14112649]

>>14112644
>I think mechnicals only make sense when they're actually hand finished.
The movements I mean.

[Anonymous No.14112653]

>>14112640
Hands from 1966.

[Anonymous No.14112659]

>>14112636
Not sure why that 6206 has such short hands.

[Anonymous No.14112660]

>>14112653

[Anonymous No.14112662]

>>14112619
The only thing that bothers me with quartz watches is the jumping seconds hand, it gives me anxiety.
I only like quartz on digital displays.

[Anonymous No.14112667]

>>14112590
I love mine, but then again it was my 'first'. If you go with the Omega 1120 movement, it'll keep the value approximately, but if you go with the newer co-axial it might lose a bit more. Also, it has the best bracelet of this generation, though watchmakers will happily complain that it's tough to polish (which it is).

Try one on...it's like wearing a large coin. If it sings to you, get it. If it doesn't, try something else.

[Anonymous No.14112670]

>>14112662
Here, have a perfectly smooth sweep on a quartz.

[Anonymous No.14112671]

>>14112659
good catch, it's a pic from ebay so maybe the seller replaced the originals?

[Anonymous No.14112677]

>>14112645
>shock protected rotor
Fucking crazy japs.

[Anonymous No.14112678]

Mechanical >>> Computer-controlled watches.

[Anonymous No.14112681]

>>14112662
I like the jumping seconds hand on sports/tool watches.
Especially when the hand is super stable and hits the markers just right.

Pretty cool to see that long slender pointer jump so purposefully and with such control from one perfectly aligned hashmark to the next.
One-two-one-two-one-two.

Like a victorious Waffen-SS division goose stepping in front of the Führer's Benz.
Very satisfying.

[Anonymous No.14112682]

>>14112678
Depends on the price point. For luxury watches yeah but I'd rather wear my dw5600 over an unregulated 7s26.

[Anonymous No.14112684]

>>14112670
yes but that's uhm, dishonest.
I could go for an Accutron tho.

[Anonymous No.14112685]

>>14112467
yup, all the people posting your hilarious strap are wrong. your the right one m8, must be

[Anonymous No.14112686]

can someone post that “luxury Swiss quartz” omega movement from the 70s? It always makes me laff

[Anonymous No.14112691]

>>14112496
do it, we all know you cant afford a real one

[Anonymous No.14112694]

>>14112685
>>14112691
Calm down Mohammad.

[Anonymous No.14112697]

>>14112505
>he seriously expects haute horologie from 500 usd watches

[Anonymous No.14112698]

>>14112684
You wanted a smooth sweeping quartz, and there it is m8. Have another.

[Anonymous No.14112699]

Another point, a 0,50$ quartz movement is as accurate as a 7k Grand Seiko quartz movement that’s why Seiko is focusing on the finishing, because that’s the only thing separating them from generic quartz watches. No compare this with cheap mechanical movements with inaccuracy problems to actual high-end, regulated and certified movements and you can actually see a difference.

[Anonymous No.14112703]

Another point, a 0,50$ quartz movement is as accurate as a 7k Grand Seiko quartz movement that’s why Seiko is focusing on the finishing, because that’s the only thing separating them from generic quartz watches. Now compare this with cheap mechanical movements with inaccuracy problems to actual high-end, regulated and certified movements and you can actually see a difference.

[Anonymous No.14112704]

>>14112699
>Another point, a 0,50$ quartz movement is as accurate as a 7k Grand Seiko quartz movement
No it fucking isn't you dipshit.

[Anonymous No.14112707]

>>14112704
Seething

[Anonymous No.14112709]

>>14112681
Based

[Anonymous No.14112715]

>>14112699
>Another point, a 0,50$ quartz movement is as accurate as a 7k Grand Seiko quartz movement
lol no
And there are GS Quartzes for like 2.5k.

Learn more about quartz you pleb.

[Anonymous No.14112719]

All Seiko does is cover up the shameful printed circuit board with a piece of metal and it’s suddenly “Grand”, that same pcb material can be found in cheap electronics.

[Anonymous No.14112721]

>>14112617
Best looking

[Anonymous No.14112722]

>>14112703
Another point, a 0,50$ quartz movement is as accurate as an actual high-end, regulated and certified movements so that's why swiss and japanese jews focus on the finishing, because that's the only thing separating them from generic quartz watches.

[Anonymous No.14112723]

>>14112115
>someone blacked out the seiko logo
how embarrassed are you. 6309 is haute garbage it doesn't even hack

[Anonymous No.14112725]

>>14112699
>>14112707
The nervous double-posting retard strikes again.

[Anonymous No.14112726]

>>14112715
I don’t familiarise myself with brands I wouldn’t want to be seen wearing, sorry.

[Anonymous No.14112734]

>>14112722
There’s a difference with purely mechanical engineered watches to computer-assisted watches.

[Anonymous No.14112737]

>>14112726
>he thinks HAQ is exclusive to GS
plebtastic

[Anonymous No.14112738]

>>14112694
nobody here is a mutt but you poorfag. being that poor means you must be a nigger

[Anonymous No.14112739]

>>14112725
Croc-grain calf but proper leather strap wearer is properly buttblasted. Can’t afford real croc from being a battery monkey eh?

[Anonymous No.14112742]

>>14112719
SHAMEFUR
>>14112698
no hands on quartz are stupid, digital display can give you plenty of functionalities. It's a mini computer, a display is its natural complement.

[Anonymous No.14112744]

>>14112739
that seiko is honestly embarrassing. blacked out dial and some "leather" strap made in a Vietnam mud hole. this is why the white race is dying. i wouldn't be caught dead with that

[Anonymous No.14112746]

>>14112734
Not in terms of accuracy. Only aesthetics. And aesthetics is highly subjective so who fucking cares.

[Anonymous No.14112750]

>>14112739
>>14112744
Try harder Abu. I wonder what mall shitter contaminates your dirty brown wrist.

[Anonymous No.14112753]

>>14112115
You can tell he’s insecure about the shittiness of his strap. All he had to say is, it’s croc-grain calf but he had to add “but proper leather” and he had to justify it with “Not going to put genuine calf on every watch I own.” Pure insecurity.

[Anonymous No.14112756]

>>14112750
i'm wearing a watch about 70 times the price of that seiko

[Anonymous No.14112759]

>>14112750
You’re just an apprentice at a watch repair shop tasked with replacing batteries. The owner pities you so he lets you work on your personal watches from time to time. Post your WOSTEP certificate bitch boy.

[Anonymous No.14112762]

>>14112756
So it's worth $75?

[Anonymous No.14112764]

>>14112762
aha you are so poor. im wearing a rolex

[Anonymous No.14112769]

>>14112756
Post it then. Come on.

>>14112759
This isn't even an insult anymore. You're kinda dumb, Raj.

[Anonymous No.14112771]

>>14112764
You seems to be overly obsessed with money. Post your Rolex and I'll post a pic of mine. Bet my watch is worth more.

[Anonymous No.14112778]

Popcorn time

[Anonymous No.14112779]

>>14112769
>>14112771
you're embarrassing yourselfm

[Anonymous No.14112781]

>>14112753
Holy shit you dumb nigger, you can't even read. I never said that.

I said I'm not putting genuine croc on every shitter in the drawer, you dumb subhuman. The strap is real calf.

>>14112771
He's a low IQ shitskin. He doesn't have anything apart from free time to ruin the white man's fun on the internet.

[Anonymous No.14112788]

>>14112779
Post auto reversing wheels.
>inb4 you don't even have a Rolex caseback tool

[Anonymous No.14112789]

>>14112788
seething haha.

[Anonymous No.14112792]

>>14112779
BASED.

>>14112771
BTFO

[Anonymous No.14112796]

>>14112781
Nigga look at the screen cap, you literally said it.

[Anonymous No.14112803]

It’s all suddenly quiet at the Ostfront

[Anonymous No.14112805]

>>14112789
So you have money. So fucking what? How long till service time?

Or are you just a consumer who'll bring it to a proper watchmaker when the time comes? Why do you even own shiny rock then?

[Anonymous No.14112807]

>>14112779
Oh. It's only that model, I'm sorry.

[Anonymous No.14112808]

NIGGAS ALL GANGSTA UNTIL THE ROLEX STARTS GETTING POSTED

[Anonymous No.14112811]

>>14112807
Nice stripped crown. Get it fixed.

[Anonymous No.14112814]

>>14112779
BTFO
>>14112807
Based

[Anonymous No.14112815]

>>14112805
Truly seething battery monkey. You bet him to post his watch and you lost. JUST

[Anonymous No.14112820]

>>14112779
$6k
>>14112807
$60k
>>14112792
Now who's BTFO.

[Anonymous No.14112824]

>>14112805
seething so hard. ten years till a service and in that time you'll go through 10 seiko's and spend just as much

[Anonymous No.14112831]

>>14112807
It's a sin posting such a watch in terrible lighting

[Anonymous No.14112832]

WHATS GOING ON

[Anonymous No.14112833]

>>14112824
What's your job, asshole?

[Anonymous No.14112834]

>>14112807
>posts a 30 year old day date
>i bet mine is more expensive
if that's not your dads haha

[Anonymous No.14112837]

>>14112590

[Anonymous No.14112838]

First it was the GS vs Rolex wars, now some bullshit strap thing, /wt/ really has gone to the shitter.

[Anonymous No.14112842]

>>14112807
You’re not the croc-grain calf but proper leather owner though. You own Pateks and Langes.

[Anonymous No.14112844]

>>14112833
ask your parents, they probably work for me

[Anonymous No.14112849]

>>14112834
It's the latest Day Date model, less than 3 years old - https://www.rolex.com/watches/day-date/m228206-0004.html

>>14112842
Well spotted, you are correct.

[Anonymous No.14112850]

>>14112838
Aren’t you having fun?

[Anonymous No.14112853]

>>14112844
Lol, it's probably some bullshit kikery. I am a poorfag, but at least I'm doing a honest trade.

>>14112838
And now it's flexing your family money because you didn't like a $6 strap. The /fa/ banishment murdered /wt/. Thanks a lot Tudorcuck.

[Anonymous No.14112855]

>>14112560
You just have to know.

[Anonymous No.14112859]

>>14112853
Nah, it’s just that battery monkey buttblasted his strap became a meme. Why even call that shit proper leather when it isn’t?

[Anonymous No.14112860]

>>14112850
>>14112853
I miss the days when we had fat canadian and others actually posting interesting watches.

[Anonymous No.14112867]

>>14112855
That looks like the new Zenith Bronze Pilot. Really hard to get hold of and probably the only Zenith I'd consider buying - I've seen one in person.

[Anonymous No.14112868]

>>14112860
I miss ninefag even. Even PHOTONIC QUARTZ wasn't this cancerous,

[Anonymous No.14112870]

>>14112853
Quite unlikely for there to be two 4chan posters with that same Day-Date model tbqh and you posted your collection recently.

[Anonymous No.14112880]

>>14112860
Yeah and at least lawyerfag wasn't obnoxious.

[Anonymous No.14112887]

I want this so bad. Why can't seiko go back to making small watches with clean dials? Do nips even like huge watches? Or are they for the chink/western market?

[Anonymous No.14112890]

>>14112887
Just get a vintage piece m8.

[Anonymous No.14112899]

My Royale arrived today.

[Anonymous No.14112919]

New thread:

>>14112917
>>14112917
>>14112917