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My company is in the product stages of producing the first line of sneakers this spring and these are test samples of the overall build and look of the shoe. Any honest criticisms are appreciated and thank you /fa/ for pushing me forward.

>> No.14074180

>>14074177
Price?

>> No.14074193

>>14074177
Where's clown poster when you need him

>> No.14074196

>>14074180
The price is set at 100usd, and 120usd depending on the shipping cost we don't want it too expensive, we have a no-retros policy in place to assure we constantly move forward as a brand and company so after this release there won't be any more of this model. All patent leather upper with hits of calf leather, there is two choices of sole. Either our stock soles or our new in-house ones. That we'll showcase at a later date. After /fa/ hit us hard with our first few designs, I had to go back to the drawing board a few times.

>> No.14074203

>>14074196
The only good thing about this sneaker is that it wont be released again. Honetly anon it looks like you bought a cheap Asos tier high top, tore the designs off and stitched it by hand yourself. Why would anybody want to spend $100 dollers on a sneaker that offers nothing new or special? What type of technology is in it? What makes your design unique?

>> No.14074215

>>14074203
I'm very glad you said this, first let me thank you for your criticism. Simply by buying this shoe, you get a discount on our next release, we believe every unboxing of a shoe should be more than getting the same thing you see every single day.The new technology in this shoe is within the sole (not pictured due to these being samples), which also features not only a new take on soles but the outsole as well. One thing we can say for certain this shoe will get people looking down and people wondering what new wave you're on completely since we're on the low-know side for now. We build all our designs from scratch and from the information we've gathered from people wearing our shoes being asked what they were was one of the biggest compliments we received, we've been able to provide a better experience for the overall wearer while being a unique take. Currently, we have 4 patents in innovative technology in footwear that we're planning to be talking about later in the year.

>> No.14074228

>>14074215
What does the sole do? Obviously you don’t need to give me a rundown, but is it supposed to be more comfortable or something?

>> No.14074230

Absolute fucking dogshit, its like were in 2006 again

>> No.14074244

I like them op, they remind of those Russian hi tops that used to be posted here

I don't however like the symbol on the side and the colours could be changed too

>> No.14074245

>>14074228
Yes, it's a more comfortable sole that is also comfort adjustable to the wearer.

>>14074230
Thank you for your criticism.

>> No.14074270

>>14074177
The logo lines look pretty bad hope the won't look like that once (if) they're released. For the rest it doesn't look too bad I'm just not a fan of the colors looks very pre2013 like.

>> No.14074301

Perforation density and colors give off a cheap vibe, and as others have said the styling is outdated and side logo is still sloppy.
It's better than other prototypes you've posted though. Keep improving, you clearly give a shit about this project so I hope it gets somewhere interesting eventually.

>> No.14074311

>>14074177
Just wanna say I admire the effort and obvious love you have for the thing. Keep it up man.

>> No.14074335

>>14074177
fuck off phil that logo is still horrible.

>> No.14074364

>>14074177
I get this "eh, not quite" feeling from looking at these shoes..
It looks like DC/ETNIES/Air Jordan 1s had a baby.
To be quite honest, the only people I can see wearing these shoes are those mexican highschool kids with cargo shorts, but hey if thats the crowd you're targeting... go for it

>> No.14074369

>>14074177
make them green/yellow instead of red and we're talking

>> No.14074374

>>14074177
Honestly this shoe looks like an abomination/rip off of older designs. I feel like I've seen it somewhere. Either way, get SBE/GTB to wear it and you'll sell instantly

>> No.14074383

looks like it should have came out ten years ago, reminds me of skate shoes.
There's honestly too much going on at once

>> No.14074423

>>14074177
nice effort bro but the silhouette is really weird, the fabric looks cheap, and the perforation on looks horrible, especially on the side.

>> No.14074921

>>14074270


>>14074383
>looks like it should have came out ten years ago, reminds me of skate shoes.
>There's honestly too much going on at once

Thank you for your criticism


>>>14074177 (OP)
>nice effort bro but the silhouette is really weird, the fabric looks cheap, and the perforation on looks horrible, especially on the side.

Excellent criticisms, thank you

>>14074369

>>>14074177 (OP)
>make them green/yellow instead of red and we're talking

Understood
>>14074270

No the finished sneaker will not have those defects at all, these are just sample test that will likely just be given to the testers. The finished product of every shoe we release will be the best possible shoe we can create. Quality, style and respect for the wearer is our main priorities.
>>14074244
Thank you for your criticisms, we take them to heart.
>>14074311
Absolutely brother, thank you so very much.

>> No.14074955

>>14074177
Those looks like basic ass margom soles, I doubt you have any tech going on in there. The upper looks like it was designed with no purpose or theme. I think the black strap of leather at the bottom of the eyestay doesn't fit for a shoe like this, it's not an actual sport shoe or even trying to imitate a sport shoe so there's no need for those reinforcements there. Overall I get a sketchy underpass shop skate shoe vibe.

>> No.14074961

>>14074364
Actually they look more like AJ2s

>> No.14074971

>>14074955
Thank you for your criticism, firstly as I stated before these soles are not the ones on the final product. Sorry if I didn't make that clear to you, secondly it is never meant to be a sports shoe. It's a lifestyle casual shoe, we aren't going into the sportwear market at all. Once we're done looking at all the criticisms here we'll make many needed changes to the final product. I appreciate your input greatly.

>> No.14074977

>>14074177
Airwalk core

>> No.14074983

>>14074971
I can see it's not a sport shoe, which is why I said that strap looks out of place. I think you need to rework the mudguard on the toe or just switch to a simple cap toe. That mudguard is too slim and dated, giving those 2012 feels some other anon pointed out.

>> No.14074993

>>14074177
They look like shit

>> No.14074994
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Those looked like something a juggalo would wear

>> No.14074998

The toe cap looks a bit naked because it's a big spot of white. As others have said the perforations look like shit. Also maybe because it's just a prototype but the side logo looks sloppy. If the intention is to make it look a bit more hand drawn it still needs to look a bit sharper. It could also benefit from a slightly darker shade of red

>> No.14075004

>>14074177
Way too busy and not in a good way. Hiking shoes are busy with straps and different closures but it looks cool. Sneakers have crazy designs too but they’re just color patterns and not some logo. Plus the red white and black color scheme is extremely dated. They come off as if you sat down and tried to design a shoe.

>> No.14075008

>>14075004
To help you, think about who would wear them, who is the target market. These do honestly look like juggalo shoes. Just think of the ideal buyer and shape the shoes to this imaginary persons needs and tastes.

>> No.14075023

>>14075004
Actually the crazy design of most sneakers actually has a purpose, usually stabilizing the foot in the shoe, same like hiking boots. OP's shoe just looks designed for the sake of it.

>> No.14075125

>>14075023
Thank you for your criticism, that isn't the case. While we focus on lifestyle and casual wear the overall build of our shoes are meant for comfort first, these are prototype versions as we work towards that. The last thing we will do is ship anything we ourselves wouldn't wear.

>>14075008
Excellent criticism, and thank you for the advice it is insanely appreciated and we will be making improvements.
>>14075004
Thank you for the criticism you have posted and we're noting them down. I understand your viewpoint.


>>14074998
Thank you for these design criticisms and your overall taste of the shoe and what you do and don't like about it. It is noted down. I respect your thoughts

>>14075004

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first off its ugly, but thats just a matter of taste, this isnt something you would sell to me imnot in your market. this is something to seel to people who wear osiris shoes, or old DCs or supras. essentially zumiez tier

that being said the leather looks good, the contrast stitching just brings more attention to the stitching so you need to be on TOP of that shit, the patterns also dont perfectly line up which is especially apparent where the black meets the white, until you master the substance of the construction id stick to all white or monochrome, something that wont show off the shitty construction

the design is cluttered, the weird shaped voids in the D arent bad but again u want cleanly cut patterns that make that shape look intentional not like a three yr old with those specialty scissors.

the little sliver cut out in the red looks like a mistake (i know its not, it just looks it)

i remember wearing shoes similar to these when i was like 12 or something and i really enjoyed having the tongue ove my pant leg, so maybe the nice bungee straps that make laces not totally necessary

another thing was a good interior tag, thirteen yr old love edgy meaningless shit so something on the inside of the tongue designed nicely w an edgy slogan or drawing or what have you

>> No.14075148

>>14074177
personally i think you could fix some design problems
the shape and the sewins on the brown stamp looks kind cheap
the sole looks comfortable
congrats on your release
wish you luck

>> No.14075199

>>14075148
>>14075126

Thank you both for not only your criticisms that we're taking to heart but also your honest thoughts and ideas for what can better the shoe as a whole. It is greatly appreciated and honestly it keeps us going.

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>>14074971
>Thank you for your criticism
>>14075125
>Thank you for your criticism
>Excellent criticism
>Thank you for your criticism
>Thank you for these design criticisms
>>14075199
>Thank you both for not only your criticism

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>>14074177
>Hi top

>> No.14075246

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>> No.14075256

>>14074177
Not enough holes. That is a joke.

>> No.14075262

>>14074971
Aint a thing casual about that shoe. It looks like it just drank 20 red bulls and tried to sell me it's mix tape.

>> No.14075266

>>14074203
>only good thing about this sneaker is that it wont be released again.
I agree

>> No.14075274
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>>14074177
How did you first get into the fashion business? I've thought about getting into it myself quite a lot but I don't know if I have the resources, education, money or time to do it. What advice would you give to complete newbies?

>> No.14075275

>>14075246
nigga what

>> No.14075276

Damn it's been awhile since this dogshit came around. Remember when it said 5bouroughs?

>> No.14075283

>>14075275
It's some sort of Chinese copy pasta from /pol/. Just ignore him and he'll go away.

>> No.14075291

>>14075266
Thank you for your criticisms, that's how we run our company. With this being out first shoe, it will never be released again.


>>14075262
Thank you for this criticism, we have released sample prototypes to individuals to wear and ask questions with and the results are people believe it's a casual wear or basketball styled shoe, even for skating. This isn't the final product however so it does not reflect the sum total of our hard work.


>>14075276
Yes we do and that shoe will never see the light of day again. Thankfully it isn't our first shoe release ever and is chalked up as a failed prototype.

>>14075274
I myself got into fashion by being in the technology space, I've always been a fan of interesting new tech I would make and decided to apply that with my drawing and designing skills towards footwear. My advice is its a long and hard road and you won't please everyone and there will be times where it seems so difficult you want to give up but never do. Life rewards the hard working, especially in fashion. Let your vision shine.

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>>14075291
Get a load of this passive aggressive faggot

>> No.14075336

>>14074177
Too much details, looks cheap with all that perforations. Too much color, try with two. Logo it's JUST...
Try with different laces they are just boring.

>> No.14075342

>>14074177
Looks like walmart trash, do something new or just steal your ideas.

>> No.14075369

>>14074177
How many times are you gonna show up here and post your shitty shoe, get told that it blows, and keep on doing exactly what you're doing?
We've told you on at least four other occasions that your brand name and logo are both absolute dogshit, that your design steals from 5 other shoes, and that you're destined to fail. What more do you want from us? Holy shit go fuck off to reddit.

>> No.14075377

>>14075369
Give him the money and he'll go away, r-right?

>> No.14075381

>>14075369
kek

>> No.14075382

>>14075369
Thank you for your reply, firstly we haven't posted in over 7 months, secondly that's how getting better works. I appreciate you thinking we're destined to fail as well, this is not the final design so we have much room for improvement, thankfully this is our first shoe. Try, fail, try and fail. I appreciate your thoughts.

>>14075369


>>14075342
Thank you for your thoughts, we don't steal ideas though. We just want to create the best possible shoe we can and have people enjoy it.

>>14075336
Thank you for these excellent criticisms, yeah these laces will not be the standard and are just stand-in for the prototypes. The logo is meant to attract attention since we want that, so far it seems to have worked but it takes time getting used to from the information we've gathered from people who test our shoes on the streets.

>> No.14075395

>>14075369
this, youre not actually boarding the criticism or taking the initiative to research what designs sell casual sneakers these days. This is an early 2000s type of piece of shit. You will NOT make money off this trash unless youre from Brazil, Mexico or some other 3rd world shithole.

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lawyer here, i'll be contacting you on star wars man's behalf shortly

>> No.14075414

>>14075395
We are taking every criticism to heart and I appreciate you thinking we arent.

>> No.14075430

>>14074177
the logo is by far the worst part. is it a fuckin wagon wheel?

they'd ALMOST be wearable without the logo.

>> No.14075439

If your target audience was Chinese FOBs then these will do very well.

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>>14074177
Lel, it's like calling your brand "pleb" or "plantation nigger"

>> No.14075482

>>14075430
Thank you for your question, it's an arch. The logo is specifically made to draw your attention and for the foot it does really well. It was one of the strongest points we've received from the testers of our products. We're proud of it.

>>14075439
Thank you for your criticism

>> No.14075484

>>14075275
>nigga what
>>14075283

They say if a dude on Chinese internet sees that shit their internet cuts out and the authorities investigate them.

>> No.14075491

>>14074177
Remember when these dogshit sneakers were called 5boroughs and the only thing that has changed is the name? You've been posting your shitty sneakers here for years. Has anyone actually purchased them??

>> No.14075507

>>14075491
Thank you for your criticism and words of encouragement. Yes people have purchased and worn our footwear. As with any company, you don't start at the top and you're held in a critical light until you are and even then it gets worse. We want to produce products we're proud to ship and recommend to our family and friends.

>> No.14075544

>>14074177
VHILLINS? Really? That's the name? Wow, I already can tell every design you have made is pure trash. Honestly, it's so offensive you think this outdated style is enough to hold up in 2019, not only that but actually think you could make money off of it. I agree with some other posters, yes these shoes could potentially be worn by people living in 3rd world countries after they have been forced to be thrown out and recycled to charity due to not selling. And from reading other comments, apparently you have posted in the past with equally awful designs. If you want some truthful advice, please hire other people to do the work if you want to see any money being made because your ideas aren't holding up and you are wasting great material and labor creating these abominations. The only people thanking you for these failures are again, people in third world countries who will wear anything out of necessity. I know people don't start out on top at first, but damn the people on top right now probably didn't have visions as bad as this.

>> No.14075588

>>14075544
Thank you for your words of encouragement and your advice it is greatly appreciated. Again these prototypes aren't the finished product and if you look at the entirety of the sneaker industry you realize most timeless designs are over 30+ years old. Thank you for your input and it is greatly appreciated and considered in our criticisms.

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>>14075382
>>14074177


how much money would I have to pay you guys to help you rework this design?

I feel you got the production means to make something interesting and I actually would like you guys to succeed. Can you guys post your inspiration/mood board for these?

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14075599

Make these for us.

>> No.14075600

why do you even make these threads when you ignore all feedback anyway, we've been telling you for what feels like years now that your designs are terrible

sage

>> No.14075613

>>14075596
First let me thank you for your belief in us, secondly though. We don't touch other brands work and their own creative directions. We don't want to be Nike, Adidas, Puma, etc. Our inspirations for creating shoes come from our own visions and drives of creativity while having regular people be the judge.

>> No.14075617

>>14075599
if only he could do mmummy shoe

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>>14075544
>VHILLINS
lmao

>> No.14075620

>>14074177
I feel like there are too many holes in the toe box and I don't like the red accents on the heel. I'd like them better in a black and white colorway. Other than that they look cool. They remind me of the Adidas Stan Smith.

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>>14074177
sage

>> No.14075625

Thank you everyone who has responded with criticism and honest advice, we're going to use the data in this entire thread to generate the best first release shoe we can do. While the thread slowly devolves into nothing but blatant childish antics, we're cutting off replying now. To everyone who participated in this thread thank you. Everything after this reply will not be read by us.

>> No.14075635

>>14075588
thanks for taking in these harsh words, truly hope you get better, best of luck

>> No.14075638

>>14075600
He's black. Does that help explain his arrogance and obstinate refusal to accept earnest feedback from those whose opinions he solicited?

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>>14075635
>thanks for taking in these harsh words
Oh no no no, he'll be back for with other shitty design

>> No.14075641

>>14075625
>gets btfo by literally 43 different anons
>calls everyone childish and runs away like a bitch nigger

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>> No.14075649

>>14074177
who designs these
kudos to you for trying to start a brand but i dont think you really understand in what kinda race you are getting in to
you need to hire a proper designer the sneakers look abhorrent , these are not gonna make it in the current climate of fashion

>> No.14075652

>>14075491
>Remember when these dogshit sneakers were called 5boroughs and the only thing that has changed is the name? You've been posting your shitty sneakers here for years. Has anyone actually purchased them??

Lol, really?
Why doesn't this dude just work out what kind of shoes we will through money at and then crowdsource it?
It would be productive AND it would give him more money to put into the stuff he artistically wants to do.

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>>14075652
lmao

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>>14075662
Made for NYC peeps yo

>> No.14075666

I have to say Your logo needs some work. There's way too much going on. It should be smaller and more elegant. Nike is a swoosh. Adidas is 3 stripes or that leaf thing. what they have in common is they're simple but recognizable at a glance.

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>>14075665
We culture now

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>>14075668
Red Nigga

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>>14075691
It's like talking to a brick wall.

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>>14075693
Like I think this guy is literally autistic. This is the way a child would role play customer service.

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JACQUAN

>> No.14075758

It seems to me that you are stuck in 2005 designing shoes for black men in brooklyn. Maybe that's your niche, but you wont find supporters here. If you want the attention of /fa/(not just the sneakerfags) you should make a shoe with most of these attributes:
-edgy, but simple
or
-elegant, but simple
-good build quality(stitching should be very good and no glue should be visible) if your shoe falls apart easily noone will trust your brand again.
-price point of $100 is decent depending on the quality of the end result. The pic you posted look fucking terrible. Tell the factory to go fuck themselves if thats the best they can do. Your build quality must match or beat your competitors.
-colors pleasing to the eye. this goes with being simple. The op pic was terrible with the colors. Less colors is better for now
-consider making a shoe with canvas.
-logo: no. No one wants your logo on their foot. Why? Nobody knows who the fuck you are. That's why. If i was still into shoes( i moved onto boots now) i wouldn't want people to see me wearing those because it would look like im wearing some kind of knockoff air force 1s. Lets face it tho, you arent going to shrink the logo or remove it entirely because without that logo, your shoes have no distinguishing features. And you know it. I hope you succeed but you dont listen to critique. If you came here for peoples opinions then ask questions. Dont just parrot "Thank you for your criticism". That's a great way to piss "us" off.

>> No.14075772

>>14075702
>See these guys
>Suddenly all the posts makes sens
The nig is the designer and the soi boi is the one posting thanks for the criticism

>> No.14075774

>>14074215
so there's nothing unique about it

>> No.14075775

>>14075772
Söyboy is from a different company and just produces the "3D printed test outsoles" for him, it's all 100% JAQUAN here and on instagram.

>> No.14075780

>>14075775
I just looked over the gram page. Everything on there is an ape of a shoe that already exists. I saw knockoff Stan's, forces, Adidas pods or maybe instapumps, sketchers, yeeezys, and DC skate shoes. Literally nothing on there is original

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JAQUAN Kelsor - CEO & Founder of Vhillins

https://youtu.be/aciM0aEiQvg

>> No.14075785

>>14075596
Are these customs? What fucking kinda shoe is that, it looks like the bottom is separate and can be worn on other shoes.

>> No.14075787

>>14075782
"BEFORE WE EVEN BEGIN... WE ADOPTED PYSCHOLOGY... THAT IS NOT KNOWN. IN THE FOOTWEAR INDUSTRY."

Fucking cringe

>> No.14075840

Can we all commit to reporting this fuckwit if he comes back in 6 months with the same sneaker? That or just troll him into believing his sneaker designs will really take off

>> No.14076016

>>14075482
>We're proud of it.
it's literally the biggest thing holding you back. change the fucking logo.

>> No.14076031

>>14076016
True. I actually thought it was the black sun at first.

>> No.14076041

>>14075621
your gift is too great for me

>> No.14076043
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14076043

>>14076031

>> No.14076125

>>14074177
honest thoughts... it's fucking boring as fuck. it's lame. do something exciting and unique, this looks like literal garbage. looks like you squished a DC skate shoe into an air jordan and then superglued it together. actually wait, that would actually be cool.

>> No.14076164

>>14075782
>27 views in 2 months

>> No.14076175

>>14074177
they look like sneakers from deichmann

>> No.14076183

>Vhillins is a black owned apparel clothing/sneaker company

Consider me shocked. Why mention your a black owned company lmao

>> No.14076186

>Vhillins is an black owned apparel clothing/sneaker company

Typo in your Twitter bio you dumb fuck, why should you be taken seriously? Also why mention it's a black owned business?

>> No.14076272

>>14075785
Mars yard 2.0 with the cover removed.

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