/wt/ - Watch Thread [Datograph edition]

[Anonymous No.14048300]

This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required to make a functioning timepiece.

> Thread video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmKAMvwB4yc

> Used watch guide:
https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2

> Strap guide:
https://pastebin.com/SwRysprE

> Watch essentials 102:
https://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV

> Previous thread: >>14046142

[Anonymous No.14048325]

>tfw my normo friends compliment me on my vostoks all the time and deep down I know I’ll never be able to afford a genuinely nice watch

Reaction pictures for this feel?

[Anonymous No.14048329]

>>14048325
Just commit to an aggressive saving plan and you will have a decent watch like a used speedy or a rollie in no time.

[Anonymous No.14048349]

>>14048325
I saved like a madman. Got 8k to spend.
Was thinking either a Reverso or a used Breguet Marine. So many cool watched available if only you got some cash to spend

[Anonymous No.14048356]

>>14048349
Tell me you also accounted for upkeep costs when you bought that

[Anonymous No.14048373]

>>14048356
Not my pic, haven't bought anything yet. Upkeep can be a bitch yeah, especially on something like a Breguet. I was considering an El Primero once AS well, but I've heard that servicing those is a bitch

[Anonymous No.14048435]

[Anonymous No.14048461]

>I prefer the traditional craftsmanship of mechanicals, instead of soulless quartz
>fanciest watch in collection is a 6R15

[Anonymous No.14048570]

How long has the watch thread been on /fa/

I remember people bitching about it being on /g/ for ages.

[Anonymous No.14048579]

Submariner or Explorer II?

[Anonymous No.14048672]

Post your watch collections.
Here’s mine.

[Anonymous No.14048687]

>>14048300
Hey /wt/, /diy/ here
I'm a carpenter and as a result wear mostly workwear, I make a lot of money though and I'd like a decent watch (anywhere from $200 to $4000 or so) that goes with workwear well (I wear mostly Carhartt WIP stuff because I try to be /fa/) and can for the most part take a beating. Any recommendations?

[Anonymous No.14048709]

>>14048687
Gshock

[Anonymous No.14048730]

>>14048579
GMT master.

[Anonymous No.14048749]

why is this thread up when there's one with 50 posts up?

[Anonymous No.14048752]

>>14048749
Retarded threadsplitters.

[Anonymous No.14048881]

>>14048687
G-Shock blackout

[Anonymous No.14048883]

>>14048730
Blue and black or blue and red?
I like blue and black a lot

[Anonymous No.14048927]

https://twitter.com/youngchopbeatz/status/1089583178673729537

[Anonymous No.14048975]

Is it safe to shoot at the range while wearing a mechanical watch?

I use a .357 LR and recoil is pretty tame.

[Anonymous No.14048991]

god shipp showed archie his gold stunner. rolex prices are crashing as we speak

[Anonymous No.14048999]

should I do it?

[Anonymous No.14049080]

>>14048975
Why wouldn't it be?

[Anonymous No.14049082]

Final grail.

Until the next one.

[Anonymous No.14049117]

>>14048999
yes, kiss yourself self

[Anonymous No.14049150]

>>14048687
this is actually an interesting question, what is a good expensive watch that can take an absolute career of trade labour?

one of the tough seiko divers?

[Anonymous No.14049152]

>>14048999
I want to jizz on that blue dial

nice trips

[Anonymous No.14049157]

>>14049082
looks like $80 dollar mall bait

[Anonymous No.14049183]

>>14049080

The shock of it

[Anonymous No.14049202]

>>14049183
Just take it off

357 is a pretty big round

Any handgun besides a 22 or .25 I'd probably take it off

[Anonymous No.14049207]

Here are some of my watches boyos

[Anonymous No.14049210]

[Anonymous No.14049215]

[Anonymous No.14049300]

>>14048300
Post watches fit for honorable men believing in a worthy cause.

[Anonymous No.14049326]

>>14049300

[Anonymous No.14049339]

>>14049326
Based and coalitionpilled

[Anonymous No.14049648]

>>14049157
Post a cheap mall watch that looks like that.

[Anonymous No.14049655]

>>14049339
Fucking Janitors
>>14049157
What’s it like being a plebeian?

[Anonymous No.14049656]

>>14049157
> $80 dollar mall bait
I wish it was, then I could afford it.

[Anonymous No.14049660]

>>14049656
I do like the previous design of the mainspring barrel better.

[Anonymous No.14049668]

>>14049660
Doppelfederhaus though. From 36, now 72 hour power reserve and it’s 0,3mm thinner. Fucking impressive.

[Anonymous No.14049671]

>>14049668
Yeah, I know.
But with watches like this, absolute practicality very much takes a backseat.
I mean you could go out and get a $15 watch that has 2 years of power reserve.

[Anonymous No.14049687]

Fuck Swiss watches.

[Anonymous No.14049770]

>>14049660
I know what you mean but function beats form in this case. There have been several improvements to the movements in the new Date model and not just to accommodate the new functionality.

[Anonymous No.14049771]

>>14048999
I'm not sure about that dial but the Club is a great watch.

[Anonymous No.14049775]

>>14049687
>Fuck Swiss watches.
Yeah, German watches are far better.

[Anonymous No.14049816]

My dad's oysterdate was last serviced in 1990. It still runs fine. Should I send it to service now or do I wait until there's a problem?

[Anonymous No.14049837]

>>14049816
Get it serviced. The oil has turned into grinding paste mixed with metal particles. It’s like asking should I exercise now or should I wait until I’m obese?

[Anonymous No.14049857]

>>14048975
>>14049183
>>14049202
Reminder that they fought the entire WW2 wearing mechanical watches, not to mention before shock-protected balances became a thing.

[Anonymous No.14049864]

>>14048579
Recent vintage submariner. Can buy one fron the '90s for 6-7k.
All newer Rolex "version II" models look ugly as sin, they fucked up everything with those horrible bulky cases.

[Anonymous No.14049871]

Anyone have any ideas to seamlessly turn my old watch into a keyring so it doesn't go to waste?

I can't let go of this watch so I want to make it into a keyring. any ideas of doing so whilst having it look clean and not simply hanging off its lug lol.

[Anonymous No.14049874]

>>14049770
The old mainspring barrel just looked a lot more interesting.

[Anonymous No.14049880]

>>14048687
NO luxury watch is supposed to take beatings, even if they would withstand it they will be scratched or dented and you just lost 1k of value at least.
What you are looking for is a "tool watch", preferably within $200.
Or if you want a luxury watch, wear it and take it off when you work.
Between these two extremes there is a grey zone of overpriced shitters that hold no value. For 4k you can easily get an entry level luxury on the used market. Omegas are cheap now, start looking at the speedmaster man on the moon or the seamaster.

[Anonymous No.14049886]

>>14048975
Mechanical watches fear sharp shocks like being dropped on hard ground. A gun's recoil is buffered by your hand and by the watch being losely attached to the wrist, so no big deal.

[Anonymous No.14049895]

>>14048687
Sinn 856

[Anonymous No.14049905]

[Anonymous No.14049909]

>>14048687
Pic related, Seiko SBBN031.

>rugged and manly design, but with nice polished details
>rugged as all hell (overbuilt old school quartz)
>accurate (a few seconds off per month)
>highly functional (visibility and readability is second to none)
>best lume in the watch industry

It has the quality of a Pelagos, Seamaster, or even Submariner, but without the fragile and mechanical movement, and without the badge premium.
Also has an iconic case design in its own right (Tunas have been around since the 70s).

[Anonymous No.14049913]

>>14049909
>It has the quality of a Pelagos, Seamaster, or even Submariner,
I'm in such a state of shock I can't even properly reply to this
What can I say, here's your (you)

[Anonymous No.14049923]

Post racing watches

[Anonymous No.14049925]

>>14049923

[Anonymous No.14049984]

>>14049913
t. clueless faggot.

See those knurling scallops? They're individually polished.
See those shroud screwhead bevels? They're polished too.
See that top edge of the shroud? With the tight corners? Polished.
The little center link shoulders? Polished.
This is the kind of detail you simply do not get on the Submariner, and certainly not on the Pelagos.
The Pelagos and Submariner by contrast are entirely brushed; with the Sub having machine polished case flank slaps with no bevel.

The Seamaster has intricate finishing as well, so in terms of finishing the comparison is much fairer between the Tuna and the Seamaster.

Between the Tuna and the Pelagos/Submariner however, the Tuna is leaps and bounds ahead in terms of finishing.
Unless you somehow believe that the Rolex'/Pelagos' brushing is magically "better" than the Tuna's.

[Anonymous No.14049992]

>>14048300
>really like the colors on everose sub
>don't have money for it

what is something cheaper that has the same color palette?

[Anonymous No.14049994]

>>14049984

[Anonymous No.14050012]

>>14049994
Compare with the knurling on a Submariner.
With the Sub, you should be glad you get knurling at all anymore.

[Anonymous No.14050023]

Can anybody identify this watch?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdzusA7RGnI

[Anonymous No.14050028]

Most popular and maybe iconic American watch brands?

[Anonymous No.14050052]

>>14050023
>Shitniel Shittington

It's a shit brand that sells $5 watches for $150 you wouldn't want to have anything to do with it.

[Anonymous No.14050054]

>>14050028
Casio
Seiko
Orient

[Anonymous No.14050057]

>>14050052
anything that has this look and style but doesnt suck then?

[Anonymous No.14050066]

>>14050057
Buy direct from Ali

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/CTPOR-Top-Mens-Watch-Fashion-Trend-Men-Wristwatch-Strap-Nylon-Red-Blue-Black-Man-Watches-Luxury/32910023890.html

[Anonymous No.14050067]

>>14050057
Just buy a Timex

[Anonymous No.14050086]

>>14050067
i only buy american brands

[Anonymous No.14050098]

What's better, the newish nomos automatic or the in house damasko?

[Anonymous No.14050111]

>>14049880

Why are people always meming on resale value and retention of value? If you need to sell a watch later, just don't buy it to begin with.

>>14048687

Most divewatches will do. Seiko makes the best, Rolex has the most famous one. Both will take a beating.. Seiko is better value, obviously. But it's not a Rolex.

[Anonymous No.14050126]

>>14050054
All three of those are Japanese retard.

[Anonymous No.14050133]

>>14050126
no they're not

[Anonymous No.14050134]

>>14050086
America is a social construct

[Anonymous No.14050144]

>>14050133
Take a second to google it and see why you're an idiot. They're all Japanese.
>>14050134
Which is why I love it.

[Anonymous No.14050145]

>>14050144
You're mistaken seiko, casio and orient have never been japanese.

[Anonymous No.14050156]

>>14050145
Native name
セイコーホールディングス株式会社

[Anonymous No.14050163]

>>14050144
They are sold in Macys and Walmart. Nothin more american than that.

[Anonymous No.14050169]

>>14050156
that's just to trick people into thinking they're japanese. Seiko is secretly a subsidiary of kentucky instruments.

[Anonymous No.14050201]

BLACKED makes me genuinely mad, but I'd so many fuck black chicks. What watch does /wt/ recommend for me? Steel Datejust?

[Anonymous No.14050203]

>>14048687
Many g shocks can, some have ABC watch functionality. There is also the Seiko marinemaster.

I recommend against an automatic, but if you insist:
Rolex
Damasko
Sinn

>>14050028
All of the good ones died and their name got used by whatever foreign company bought them. Most of the "American" brands use parts made in China with some assembled here.

Anyone else that actually does everything in the US is a microbrand no one knows.

Some say that RGM is good, but I know nothing. Try for a vintage Ingersoll or Waterbury?

[Anonymous No.14050208]

>>14050203
>actually does everything in the US
Name one.

[Anonymous No.14050316]

>>14050208
That was more of a catchall, because there probably is one somewhere that I don't know about. The closest I can think of for all American are the ones below, for the other two that used to be well known it has to be vintage.

[Anonymous No.14050374]

What's a nice Chronograph for work in the £200 range?

[Anonymous No.14050390]

[Anonymous No.14050397]

>>14050374
Seagull 1963

[Anonymous No.14050428]

Is it still worth it to pick up an SKX? I lost the one that I bought six or seven years ago and the price has increased significantly. Wtf. Is there a better alternative? No orient ray please. I hate the bezel on that one.

[Anonymous No.14050469]

>>14050428
SKX is beautiful and timeless. I'd just buy it again maybe go for a J model or a vintage one.

[Anonymous No.14050549]

>>14050469
I've never seen a single person in my entire life wearing one. Those that do must be isolated to a few poor countries or something.

[Anonymous No.14050611]

>>14050374
At that price range you'll want to go quartz.
One of these?

[Anonymous No.14050614]

Anyone know where I can find ""good""" fake watches like Rolex?

[Anonymous No.14050632]

>>14050614
> good
> fake
pick one.

[Anonymous No.14050638]

>>14050632
You know what I mean not necessarily good quality but looking similar to the real thing

[Anonymous No.14050670]

>>14050638
Tiger concepts with no logo, miyota 9015 movements for 250 bucks. They have no water resistance lol

[Anonymous No.14050781]

I have absurdly skinny wrists, about 6,5 inches, and apart from a few tiny vintage dress watches have yet to find a watch for everyday use that isn't too large, feminine, or otherwise unappealing. I have been looking at this braun I like, its certainly quite thin looking, but Im afraid the face is just too large

[Anonymous No.14050794]

>>14050781
39 mm should be good

[Anonymous No.14050796]

>>14050374

Any Citizen with a 0510 movement. Can be had for well under the 200 mark too, and I pursonally wouldn't spend more on a quartz chrono.. If you want mechanical, go more expensive or go Chinese. Seagull (other anon recommend one) is well regarded, especially in these threads. I don't like them because the Commie-factor is off the charts, but that is too is well regarded in these threads.

[Anonymous No.14050830]

>>14050781
How about this slim 35mm dress watch anon? Perfect size for you.

[Anonymous No.14050853]

>>14050781
I have one in black and it's the only watch I'll ever need. Should get one with a date though.

[Anonymous No.14051117]

>>14049984
>>14049994
>>14050012
BIG YIKES

[Anonymous No.14051118]

>>14050781
I've got the same size wrists, I think you'll be fine with anything that's a case size of <40mm (apart from some divers with a short lug to lug) and isn't all dial. Here's a SARB on my noodle wrist, I don't think it looks too big, the main thing to avoid is lug overhang.

[Anonymous No.14051136]

r8

Still needs work on the crown gasket.

[Anonymous No.14051156]

Guys, I've decided to get one of these montblancs. Which one would you go for? I feel like the world timer is more unusual but I don't know if I'd get tired of it.

[Anonymous No.14051183]

https://hangouts.google.com/call/gN3Xx-4oR1Fk24t5jm-cAEEE

[Anonymous No.14051188]

>>14051156
This one to be honest.

[Anonymous No.14051223]

>>14051136
Not a fan of the milanese but the watch is nice. How's the crown gasket? I know some older watches have virtually irreparable gaskets.

[Anonymous No.14051233]

>>14051223
As far as I could tell through microscope it might be irreparable, and it's a signed crown, so I'd rather just wear it in dry weather from now on, than to replace it.

[Anonymous No.14051250]

>>14049150
My timex expedition shit the bed from just normal wear and tear being out at sea. Can't get a shock, which is the real deal in durability, because the radar fucking destroys digital watches(and your sperm).
Right now I have pic related on order because it looked nice and was cheap. Kinda wish i had come here first before ordering though. Maybe next time. I know that automatic watches aren't for me, I just need a good and accurate analog watch that can get wet and not suck.
The /fa/ aspect also went into play though. I like this style of watch.

[Anonymous No.14051285]

I await your hate.

[Anonymous No.14051303]

>>14051285
the dots being off center from the 12 are the worst thing about this

[Anonymous No.14051308]

>>14051303
I actually use my bezels, so I am not as OCD about it.

[Anonymous No.14051333]

>>14049984
Nigger, you’re baiting. Rolex individually polishes the bezel scallops. You’re the same animu weeb Jap-obsessed macro-posting autist.

[Anonymous No.14051348]

[Anonymous No.14051363]

Reminder that when it comes to case finish, after a year of daily wear it won't matter anymore if it was originally a $10000 or a $300 watch.

[Anonymous No.14051392]

>>14051333
>Rolex individually polishes the bezel scallops.
See >>14051348

They are not polished. They're just milled out and left as is.

[Anonymous No.14051422]

[Anonymous No.14051430]

Post watches you hate

[Anonymous No.14051434]

>>14051363
Not if it's sort of in your sleeve all the time or one of the hardened case ones

[Anonymous No.14051445]

>>14051422
See >>14051348

That's a current-production ceramic bezel Rolex, and the scallops are clearly not polished.

[Anonymous No.14051476]

I don't like Rolexs' engraved rehaut thing.

Looks dumb desu. But I understand why they did it.

[Anonymous No.14051481]

>>14051363
Whoever owned that watch must have smacked it against walls and tables.
My watches don't look like that after 10 years of daily wear.

[Anonymous No.14051484]

>>14051445
Who cares? Why does this trigger you so much?

[Anonymous No.14051505]

>>14051484
It doesn't trigger me at all, what are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.14051513]

>>14051505
Then shut the fuck up already autismo, damn

[Anonymous No.14051517]

>>14051513
nah I'm good

[Anonymous No.14051544]

>>14051484
>>14051513
Sounds like you got triggered instead desu

[Anonymous No.14051562]

>>14051513
>spazzes out
>calls the other guy autismo

[Anonymous No.14051567]

Look at the base-ness of those collection.

[Anonymous No.14051919]

>>14051567
What a poorfag “collection.
“. Wannabe Submariner next to a wannabe Day-Date next to a wannabe Royal Oak next to a wannabe GMT-Master. Sad!

[Anonymous No.14051929]

>>14051567 #
What a poorfag “collection“. Wannabe Submariner next to a wannabe Day-Date next to a wannabe Royal Oak next to a wannabe GMT-Master. Sad!

[Anonymous No.14052001]

>>14049925
Legit wear this to work so I dont fuck up my nice ones

[Anonymous No.14052095]

Anyone else really like the Rolex Sea Dweller?
I love Submariners but the fact that it's basically a Sub on roids seems so badass. I don't even dive and probably never will but just knowing that I had a goofy-ass watch that I can wear deep in the ocean even though I never will just seems so ridiculous that I want one even more.
Discuss.

[Anonymous No.14052103]

>>14051567
There is not a single watch there worth having.

[Anonymous No.14052155]

What's the best sub 300 skeleton for those people who really like them? I kind of forgot to put it in poorfag guide

[Anonymous No.14052163]

I'll never buy a Grand Shitko

[Anonymous No.14052164]

>>14052155
I typically recommend Fossil if it absolutely has to be a full skeleton. They're not good, but they're miyota movements and could be worse. If an open heart is sufficient, Orient has better offerings.

[Anonymous No.14052206]

>>14049923
120 split; 10 sucesive countdowns; solar; 100m wr; world time; thicc pushers to use easy with gloves; all the normal casio stuff.

30 burgerpounds

[Anonymous No.14052252]

I really want a dive watch as I'm becoming obsessed with their aesthetic. The dream is obviously a Sub or Seamaster, but that's far away.
I'm thinking about a Seiko but how accurate and reliable are their movements? What's the best dive Seiko diver for 500 or under with the most accurate and reliable movement? Any that pull off +/-5 or so a day?

[Anonymous No.14052263]

>>14048687
Hamilton, sinn, or stowa

[Anonymous No.14052266]

>>14051567
What's that fake royal oak? Might cop.

[Anonymous No.14052276]

>>14048687
A gshock can be run over and still be fine.

[Anonymous No.14052322]

>>14048349
Blancpain Bathyscaphe, or perhaps a Villeret if you want something less dive-y

[Anonymous No.14052340]

Recommend me a good cheap timegrapgher /wt/. Show me yours if you have one.

[Anonymous No.14052346]

>>14052252
I have an SKX that I usually wear on weekends since I wear my dress watch to work. The movement is non-handwindable and it gets annoying really fast. It's okay if you wear it everyday but if you don't I recommend buying something with a better movement.
In that price range there is a lot of choice. There are tons of turtle and tuna models that you can buy at that price range.
That being said, I love the clean aesthetics of SKX the best so I'm willing to put up with the shitty movement.

[Anonymous No.14052401]

>>14050390
I'm looking for that one in gold but can't find it anywhere, help someone also can we get more gold casio

[Anonymous No.14052412]

>>14049909
Tunas 4 lyfeeee

[Anonymous No.14052416]

>>14051333
Nigger, ALL rolexes are made by fully automated machines.
Nothing is hand polished, nothing is hand made.
Do a little research.

[Anonymous No.14052420]

>>14049857
In WWII only your platoon leader needed to know what the exact time was and the watches were synchronized daily.

[Anonymous No.14052427]

>>14051567
It’s a solid collection.
Dig the Casio and skx.
I am a Bulova fan but only of their old school tuning fork or newer ultra high frequency quartz. I personally wouldn’t buy a Bulova automatic.
Last two watches don’t do anything for me personally.

[Anonymous No.14052429]

>>14051285
Dope collection.
U must really like monsters lol.
That dial on the turtle is nice af.
The combined lume from all those watched would probably light up a small room lol.

[Anonymous No.14052445]

>>14052252
Mate, if you can afford £500, keep saving to get a Seamaster. You won’t regret it.

[Anonymous No.14052470]

>>14052252
All the Seiko solar divers are +\-15 seconds a month. And they are all very affordable.
All the tunas have great accuracy as well.
Well maintained 7s26’s can keep good time but their newer automatic movements are better like the nh35 I believe it is? They offer handwinding and hacking.
Can always put that movement into a skx.

[Anonymous No.14052540]

>>14052416
This.

[Anonymous No.14052551]

>>14052416
All they all constructed, tested, regulated and adjusted by machines too?

[Anonymous No.14052589]

>>14052551
Some assembly is absolutely done by machine.
But the testing, regulation, and adjustment are indeed done by hand.
But don't get too big a boner over that.
At Breitling for instance, chronometer adjustment/regulation is done by a Muslim roastie.

Also, even the most mass-produced firearm in the world (the AK family) involves very significant and pretty intricate manual adjustment/regulation processes (headspacing, sight adjustment, ...).

[Anonymous No.14052597]

>>14052445
How much did you pay for that? Nice rabbit.

[Anonymous No.14052605]

>>14052589
So exactly the same as every other watch manufacturer then so why criticize Rolex for it? No one hand makes the parts except for some independents.

[Anonymous No.14052607]

>>14052597
£1850 and it’s mint condition except for tiny marks on the AR coating.

[Anonymous No.14052610]

>>14052605
>So exactly the same as every other watch manufacturer
Yes, that part is exactly like every other watch manufacturer.
In fact, more than pretty much all other watch manufacturers (with a few exceptions) since Rolex' accuracy standard (+2 / -2) is second to none.
Also, Rolex still uses metallic hairsprings, so they'll have to do more adjustment than any watch with a silicon hairspring (Omega, etc.)

>so why criticize Rolex for it?
No-one is criticizing Rolex for its adjustment/regulation.

[Anonymous No.14052678]

>>14052607
That's not bad, where from and did it come with the bracelet and box? Are you Giugario reissue guy? Either you've got a shit ton of watches or you flip them frequently.

[Anonymous No.14052705]

What are some cheaper divers with the Glidelock feature? I really like this kind of on-demand wrist adjustment.

[Anonymous No.14052714]

>>14052678
I only buy the Guigiaro watches to flip. I do flip a lot.
Yea box and bracelet mint condition. Not a single scratch on the clasp.

I had a speedy and flipped it and I’m preferring this to the speedy so far. Feels a lot better finished and more striking in design.

[Anonymous No.14052733]

>>14052714
Do you just sell on ebay? My digital watch collection is becoming a bit much and I just got a Seiko Running Man which may or may not work, if it does I'll likely sell a few of my other digitals as it's one of most sought after.

[Anonymous No.14052780]

>>14052705
Look for Seikos with this clasp.

It's even better than the Rolex or Omega exension systems, because you can extend and retract this Seiko system while the watch is on your wrist.

The exact same clasp is used on the Grand Seiko divers too (but with better finishing).

[Anonymous No.14052782]

>>14052780
Forgot pic.
Not all Seiko clasps that look like this while closed have this system though. So you'll have to look into each one.

[Anonymous No.14052799]

>>14052782
Which models have this though? Seem really rare.

[Anonymous No.14052847]

>>14052163
Neither will I, they are complete shit overhyped online by people that have never touched one.

[Anonymous No.14052855]

>>14052163
>>14052847
Wrong!

[Anonymous No.14052864]

COME ON EVERYONE, TIME TO POST MACROS WITH RED CIRCLES. TIME FOR THE THREAD TO GO TO SHIT.

[Anonymous No.14052876]

>>14052855
Go try them on peasant

[Anonymous No.14052882]

>>14052429
Thanks anon!!!

[Anonymous No.14052891]

>>14052799
Marinemasters. They're not that cheap but even the quartz version uses the same clasp. You could one of those new for around 1300$.

[Anonymous No.14052914]

>>14052340
A weishi off eBay for $150 to $200 is fine.

[Anonymous No.14052916]

>>14052610
>Rolex still uses metallic hairsprings
Not in the new 32xx family

[Anonymous No.14052922]

>>14052914
Mine is just a project box with an amplifier circuit inside hooked to my laptop.

[Anonymous No.14052964]

>>14052922
Thinking of buying a piezo contact mic from AliExpress and connect it with my phone.

[Anonymous No.14052966]

whats some effay cheap ass watch on AliExpress?

[Anonymous No.14052971]

>>14052966
Parnis

[Anonymous No.14052992]

>>14052966
Skmei

[Anonymous No.14053096]

>>14052992
that is some nasty shit

[Anonymous No.14053143]

>>14053096
It is pretty shit, the back light is interesting. It inverts the display for some reason.

[Anonymous No.14053155]

>>14052163
>>14052847
Honestly, main reason I buy watches is for the actual quality.
In that price range, nothing comes even remotely close to a Grand Seiko in terms of manual work and finishing.

[Anonymous No.14053164]

>>14053143
Take it apart and tell us how that works please

[Anonymous No.14053169]

Am I retarded for wanting a tool watch with an automatic instead of quartz? It must be a contradiction of some kind.

[Anonymous No.14053200]

>>14053164
No.

[Anonymous No.14053241]

>>14052992
Is the case metal? I'd like to get one for a project, just to tinker before moving to the real deal.

[Anonymous No.14053242]

>>14053169
I had the same predicament.
A tool watch is supposed to be robust and accurate.
Mechanical watches are neither (relatively speaking).

In the end, I found that there are quartz watches with similar horological pedigree, movement snob satisfaction, nice finishing, … as any Omega or Rolex; but with quartz accuracy and robustness.

[Anonymous No.14053244]

>>14053169
No

[Anonymous No.14053245]

>>14053155
Completely wrong. Case polish and the indices are not the entire watch and omega and Rolex and jlc all do every single other thing better

[Anonymous No.14053249]

>>14052782
Those stamped steel clasps are shit you brainlet.

[Anonymous No.14053250]

>>14053242
Are Citizen and Seiko the only choices for that shit? Because I don't think any of them do case hardening.

[Anonymous No.14053253]

>>14053241
Yeah, it's chrome plated brass.

[Anonymous No.14053257]

>>14053245
>Case polish and the indices are not the entire watch
Case, dial, indices, hands are what you actually see.

>omega and Rolex and jlc all do every single other thing better
Like what?

[Anonymous No.14053273]

>>14053250
Seiko does case hardening.

And there are other "nice" quartz tool watches outside of Seiko & Citizen like the oil-filled Sinn, a whole list of Breitlings, etc.

There are caveats though; the Sinn for instance doesn't align the seconds hand ticks with the markers, and the Breitling's hands shake slightly at the end of the tick.
Both use generic ETA quartz movements too, if that matters.

The Seiko quartz I went for has an overbuilt in-house movement from the 80s that is used exclusively in the SBBN model line, is high-torque (so no shaking seconds hand like with the ETAs), is large enough to fill the entire case, hits every seconds marker perfectly, can be serviced, and has rate trimmers to adjust for decaying accuracy decades from now.

[Anonymous No.14053274]

>>14053257
Movement design, finish, accuracy, durability

Watch design

Service locations and resale value

[Anonymous No.14053284]

post watches set to current date and time boys
lets see them stunners

[Anonymous No.14053295]

>>14053274
>Movement design
What's wrong with GS movement designs?

>movement finish
Rolex and Omega movements are not finished any nicer than GS movements.

>movement accuracy
No.
Grand Seiko was already putting out +2/-2 spd production watches in 1969.

>movement durability
On paper maybe. Personally I don't buy into the whole "full balance bridge" meme.
The silicon hairspring models by Omega will be more resistant to deformation and magnetism, but remember that silicon is also much more brittle than metallic hairsprings.

>Watch design
Eye of the beholder.
Pic related.

>Service locations and resale value
Oh sure.

[Anonymous No.14053313]

>>14053273
>The Seiko quartz I went for has an overbuilt in-house movement from the 80s that is used exclusively in the SBBN model line, is high-torque (so no shaking seconds hand like with the ETAs), is large enough to fill the entire case, hits every seconds marker perfectly, can be serviced, and has rate trimmers to adjust for decaying accuracy decades from now.
picrel

Those two little holes with the vertical wires visible through them (somewhere bottom left from the middle of the movement) are the rate trimmers.
If after a few decades the watch starts drifting too wildly, you cut either the (+) wire or the (-) wire to adjust by a few seconds per month in the desired direction.

[Anonymous No.14053410]

>>14053274
>>14053295
You both have valid points. I own most of the high end brands and that includes some GS. The are good watches but have their own unique problems compared to the alternatives.

They have very little variance in style. Get one of their dress watches and you have no reason to buy another. They are almost identical.

Their bracelets are by far the worst in that price bracket.

Servicing and replacement parts can be a pain as it can require shipping to / from Japan.

Resale value is bad.

This one is completely a personal opinion but they simply "wear cheaper" on the wrist. Put on a Rolex, JLC, L.U.Chopard, etc and it feels like you're wearing something of quality. I don't get that from a GS.

Nice dials though.

[Anonymous No.14053419]

>>14053295
>Grand Seiko was already putting out +2/-2 spd production watches in 1969.
This is true, but a little beside the point. Contemporaneously, 2spd watches were available from at least Girard Perregaux, longines, zodiac, probably others, and these watches were considerably more accessible than the Seiko VFA models. Today, only Rolex makes watches at scale with 2spd precision; seiko's recent vfa was a limited edition of 20 and cost tens of thousands of dollars.

[Anonymous No.14053438]

>>14053295
On the durability point you also forgot that GS has no free sprung balances.

No third party accuracy testing

Omega and jlc do far more in terms of decoration all new GS models look identical besides divers

GS movement design In the mechanically regulated realm offers nothing over an eta besides a cooler escape wheel and pallet fork production technique

Also GS bracelets are garbage and they all feel like mall watches

[Anonymous No.14053454]

>>14053284
Love that watch

[Anonymous No.14053543]

>>14053419
>Today, only Rolex makes watches at scale with 2spd precision
A little misleading, it's +2/-2.

[Anonymous No.14053561]

>>14053410
>They have very little variance in style.
Rolex is the same.
The Submariner, Deep Sea, Seadweller, Yachtmaster, Explorer II, GMT Master, and even the Daytona are all basically the same watch.
And the models without (rotating) bezel all have basically the same case design too.

>Their bracelets are by far the worst in that price bracket.
Not in terms of finishing.

>Servicing and replacement parts can be a pain as it can require shipping to / from Japan.
>Resale value is bad.
Sure.

>This one is completely a personal opinion but they simply "wear cheaper" on the wrist. Put on a Rolex, JLC, L.U.Chopard, etc and it feels like you're wearing something of quality. I don't get that from a GS.
That's crazy talk. The external finishing on a GS beats them all.

[Anonymous No.14053574]

Should I just pull the trigger /wt/? The movement is shit but I fucking love the aesthetics. Although I prefer the 013 since I'm into smaller watches.

[Anonymous No.14053606]

>>14053273
Does Seiko's case hardening compare to Sinn and Damasko? I think you are talking about grand Seiko rather than regular Seiko. Is that the case? Also, are you suggesting that new Seiko quartz movements are not up to par anymore? If not, do you know a few models I can look at?

[Anonymous No.14053608]

>>14053438
>On the durability point you also forgot that GS has no free sprung balances.
Same deal, both have their pros and cons.
In terms of shock resistance, free sprung is probably better though.

>No third party accuracy testing
Well they did get snubbed by COSC for beating the snot out of the Swiss in the late 60s.

>Omega and jlc do far more in terms of decoration all new GS models look identical besides divers
You mean case and dial designs?
Rolex is the same.
The Submariner, Deep Sea, Seadweller, Yachtmaster, Explorer II, GMT Master, and even the Daytona are all basically the same watch.
And the models without (rotating) bezel all have basically the same case design too.

Omega switches it up the most out of the three, but this "variety" is exactly one of their key downfalls: lack of focus.

>GS movement design In the mechanically regulated realm offers nothing over an eta
Because it has a metallic hairspring, a balance cock instead of full bridge, and smooth balance wheel?
Same is true for tons of high-end watches. Pic related.

>Also GS bracelets are garbage and they all feel like mall watches
The finishing on them is godlike.

[Anonymous No.14053631]

>>14053606
I generally consider the citizen A060 to be a better movement than the 9F. It has a 5spy spec, an independent hour hand, and Eco drive. Even the new longines vhp might give the 9f a run for its money, technically speaking. The movement finishing of the 9F is much better than the A060 or VHP, but that's not really a concern of mine.

[Anonymous No.14053645]

>>14053606
>Does Seiko's case hardening compare to Sinn and Damasko?
In a way.
They're all types of surface treatment, but Sinn and Damasko take it way further.
The downside to Sinn and Damasko's methods is there's only one type of optical finish possible: matte blasted.

> I think you are talking about grand Seiko rather than regular Seiko. Is that the case?
No. Grand Seikos do not have Seiko's surface hardening because it makes top-tier refinishing all but impossible.

>are you suggesting that new Seiko quartz movements are not up to par anymore?
That really depends.
The tech in modern Seiko quartzes is often superior (solar, etc.), but the build quality is often simplified.

Pic related for instance is the chronograph equivalent of this Tuna movement: >>14053313

Every subdial has its own little motor.

Seiko re-released a few Giugiaro watches that used to have this movement, but with a much cheaper movement with just one motor.

They still make this one though: >>14053313

Also, the Grand Seiko quartz (9F) has absolutely incredible tech, and is a (relatively) recent design.
http://watchesbysjx.com/2013/05/explained-seiko-9f-quartz-movements-definitive-proof-that-high-end-quartz-exists.html
Just to whet your appetite: every second the seconds hand makes two little jumps that look like a single jump to the naked eye, resulting in the greatest seconds hand stability possible.

[Anonymous No.14053653]

>>14053631
Not too familiar with the A060 or the Longines VHP, but the GS 9F is an absolute marvel.

-super sealed cabin for the vital parts (no exposure even during battery change)
-microscopic spacers for each individual hand (see pic)
-double-jump seconds hand
-hairspring just to stabilize the seconds hand
-special mechanism to make the date jump instantly at midnight (requires separate specialist just for the assembly)
-coil evenly wound with microscopic precision

[Anonymous No.14053679]

>>14053645
One thing that separates Damasko from the rest is that the whole case is harder, not just the surface making them less likely to cave in.

[Anonymous No.14053685]

>>14053653
If you're not familiar with them, it might be worth learning about them. The points you list in favor of the 9F seen to boil down to serviceability (a fair benefit), a bunch of cosmetic things (who cares how many milliseconds the (non perpetual) calendar takes to change?), and a well-wound coil (I guess, sure cool, but not sure how meaningful a benefit that is - either the stepper works or it doesn't).

[Anonymous No.14053699]

Imagine being such an anime dweeb that you let it carry over into an autistic obsession with Japanese watches that you make these posts on 4chan defending them to people that don't care

[Anonymous No.14053725]

Hello wt.

The citizen cosmotron gx was a clone of the accutron 219. Citizen and Bulova shared many tuning fork designs in tbe 70s and citizen in fact produced parts for Bulova - although the index wheels continued to be produced by Bulova, since they considered the process to be a trade secret. The 219 was derived from the 218, with one of the coils on the tuning fork replaced with an inactive weight to save power.

[Anonymous No.14053729]

>>14053685
>The points you list in favor of the 9F seen to boil down to serviceability
The sealed cabin thing hermetically seals the oils and vital parts, it means many decades of zero servicing needed.

>who cares how many milliseconds the (non perpetual) calendar takes to change?
Well, it's a system that makes the date change instantaneous.
The fact that it's done in milliseconds is a secondary advantage.

>either the stepper works or it doesn't
That's not entirely accurate. Today's high-end ETA 'superquartzes' for instance show noticeable seconds hand jitter in many designs.
With GS's 9F, the double jump means a very smooth ticking, even with the heavy dauphine hands.

[Anonymous No.14053733]

>>14053561
> Rolex is the same.
Rolex is not the same. Rolex have less lines than other brands but still more than GS.

> Not in terms of finishing.
> That's crazy talk. The external finishing on a GS beats them all.
Do you actually own a Grand Seiko? I do, you're wrong on both.

[Anonymous No.14053745]

>>14053729
But instantaneous date changes have existed in wristwatches for half a century. Surely that's not a breakthrough feature.

[Anonymous No.14053754]

Friendly reminder that the Grand Seiko fag is the thread splitter who autistically posts this shit when he doesn't get his way and his split thread doesn't become the main one. He does it to derail threads until he reaches bump limit so he can make his own thread.

[Anonymous No.14053761]

>>14053733
Not that guy but what do you think of this video?
https://youtu.be/rwA_gAHcmLs
The guy said that the grand seiko's finishing is more refined than rolex.

[Anonymous No.14053766]

>>14053733
>Rolex is not the same.
The Submariner, Deep Sea, Seadweller, Yachtmaster, Explorer II, GMT Master, and even the Daytona are all basically the same watch.
And the models without (rotating) bezel all have basically the same case design too.

I don't know if you had a look at the GS catalog in recent years, but they have a broad variety.

>GS doesn't have better external finishing than Rolex, JLC, Chopard
k bro

[Anonymous No.14053770]

>>14053745
It's different for quartz.
And it's not a groundbreaking feature, but it's something they developed a very nifty system for.

[Anonymous No.14053777]

>>14053754
>the Grand Seiko fag is the thread splitter
I'm "the Grand Seiko fag", and I haven't made a /wt/ thread since Basel 2017.

You seem upset though.

[Anonymous No.14053782]

>>14053777
>since Basel 2017.
Whoops, meant Basel 2018.

[Anonymous No.14053793]

The majority of people here will only recognize Swiss and German watchmakers and completly ignore everything Japanese, but would you really pick a BMW or a Mercades over a Lexus?

[Anonymous No.14053794]

>>14053777
Please make your own thread called Grand Seiko General so you can samefag with yourself and post macros to your heart's content.

[Anonymous No.14053795]

>>14053794
So very butthurt.

[Anonymous No.14053797]

>>14053793
>but would you really pick a BMW or a Mercades over a Lexus?
Absolutely. In a heartbeat

[Anonymous No.14053801]

>>14053733
Post some pics you fag I'm bored seeing the same soimaster again and again this week.

[Anonymous No.14053803]

>>14053797
But why?

[Anonymous No.14053818]

>>14053761
That's more a subjective opinion than factual. Comparing that GS Hi-Beat dress watch to a Rolex GMT tool watch isn't exactly an equivalent comparison. Of course a pure dress watch is going to usually be more refined.

>>14053766
GS are _at best_ on par with their competitors. GS had the benefit of being cheaper but since the rebranding with the Seiko name being dropped they are aiming to target that higher-end of the market and are increasing their prices. That's why they are aggressively marketing themselves in the US and released those US-only limited editions (I own the SBGA387G). Once they directly compete with the other brands at the $5k-$10k range they will likely run into problems.

The other reason for the GS push is that Seiko are being killed in the low end market competing with the Apple Watch. It's very likely the SARB's and SKX's will be no more in a a few years time.

>>14053801
Here you go.

[Anonymous No.14053825]

>>14053793
Maybe an old BMW. Also, the new grille on current Lexus models still looks weird to me.

[Anonymous No.14053827]

>>14053818
That's a strangely unappealing picture.

[Anonymous No.14053829]

>>14053793
Of course fucking not.
>t. Scotty kilmer

[Anonymous No.14053830]

>>14053818
>GS are _at best_ on par with their competitors.
They're leaps and bounds ahead in terms of external finishing.
Don't take my word for it, go check out any online watch authorities like here: >>14053761
or Tim Mosso (watchbox on youtube).

>Comparing that GS Hi-Beat dress watch to a Rolex GMT tool watch isn't exactly an equivalent comparison.
There's no difference in external finishing between GS's hi-beats, regular beats, quartzes, spring drives.

[Anonymous No.14053831]

>>14053827
Agreed but I'm in a strangely unappealing office with bad lighting.

[Anonymous No.14053837]

>>14053830
I can only tell you the facts based upon me owning the real things. If you refuse to even listen then it's pointless to argue with you.

[Anonymous No.14053846]

>>14053837
Ultimately, do you regret buying your GS anon? Not trying to stir shit but genuinely curious.

[Anonymous No.14053854]

>>14053837
Like I said, go listen to any watch authority.
Here's a for instance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsRKRekFAF0

Or: https://youtu.be/rwA_gAHcmLs

[Anonymous No.14053855]

>>14053803
BMWs are basically perfect

[Anonymous No.14053857]

>>14053818
>Comparing that GS Hi-Beat dress watch to a Rolex GMT tool watch isn't exactly an equivalent comparison.
Why not?

[Anonymous No.14053869]

>>14053846
No. I like watches and there is a lot to like about GS and their history so are fine as part of the collection. However it's almost certain I will never buy another GS. They are good but not great.

>>14053854
I have, I also have two eyes and have seen *a lot* of watches in person.

>>14053857
Directly comparing a dress watch to a tool watch when it comes to style doesn't make much sense to me. Comparing the Rolex to say the Grand Seiko SBGJ229G would be a more apt discussion. Another watch I've actually tried on that looks much better in pictures than in real life.

[Anonymous No.14053871]

>>14053606
No. But Citizen has some duratect alpha watches that are titanium coated to be around the same HV as the Sinn coating.

Also, see
>>14053679

[Anonymous No.14053882]

>>14053869
>I have
Obviously you haven't.

Find me a single watch "influencer" with a semi-decent following who will agree with you that GS has the same external finishing as Rolex.

[Anonymous No.14053886]

>>14053882
So you based your opinions on YouTube influencers instead of leaving your basement and looking at things yourself?

That explains a lot.

[Anonymous No.14053908]

>>14053869
>Directly comparing a dress watch to a tool watch when it comes to style doesn't make much sense to me.
That Grand Seiko is not a dress watch.
And Rolex haven't made "tool watches" since the early 70s.

Also, Seiko's divers are finished to the exact same standard, with much more intricate case forms and much nicer finishing.

[Anonymous No.14053923]

>>14053886
I'm certainly not going to base it off some anon on a Belgian beer wort sniffing forum.

So find me a single watch "influencer" with a semi-decent following who will agree with you that GS has the same external finishing as Rolex.

Meanwhile, here's one of the more prominent voices in the watch world today:
https://youtu.be/BsRKRekFAF0?t=399
>"This is where the Rolex can't compete: case finish and case form"
Be sure to keep listening.

[Anonymous No.14053925]

Thoughts on the new orient ray? New design and they use sapphire crystal this time. Around 100$ more expensive than ray II.

[Anonymous No.14053982]

here's my basedko. and fuck me dead what is wrong with you idiots arguing about nothing all the time.


>14053725
>with one of the coils on the tuning fork replaced with an inactive weight to save power
how much power was actually saved?

[Anonymous No.14053992]

here's my basedko. and fuck me dead what is wrong with you idiots arguing about nothing all the time.


>>14053725
>with one of the coils on the tuning fork replaced with an inactive weight to save power
how much power was actually saved?

[Anonymous No.14054013]

>>14053992
Very little. The biggest saving was economic by reducing the cost of the movement. Still, one less coil to have to worry about.
Fotoplot, as always, has a decent introduction.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~fotoplot/acctech219.htm

[Anonymous No.14054020]

The absolute state of the Seiko autist. Telling a grand seiko owner that isn’t impressed by his grand seiko to listen to youtubers. But but but! Fucking dweeb. It’s a common occurrence with grand seiko, it being unremarkable and owners returning theirs.

[Anonymous No.14054038]

>>14050781
I’m a wristlett as well and Chronoswiss makes a lot of 38mm watches that fit me perfectly.
pic related is my klassik chrongraph

[Anonymous No.14054042]

>>14053992
Is the bracelet from strapcode? How is it? I hate my jubilee thinking of replacing with an oyster

[Anonymous No.14054049]

>>14054038
Christ how small are your wrists if that's 38mm? It looks oversized as fuck on you.

[Anonymous No.14054061]

>>14054020
Stop bringing your shitty /biz/ Pajeet-tier fud mentality here.

[Anonymous No.14054072]

>>14051363
There's absolutely nothing wrong with the way the finish of that watch looks.

[Anonymous No.14054076]

>>14054013
thank you

>>14054042
yes and i like it but the clasp despite being milled has many parts which make noise. It is the only option for a decent bracelet but i may try to replace the clasp in the future.

[Anonymous No.14054087]

>>14054049
small like I said. I can only wear slim watches up to 38mm, anything bigger looks off.

[Anonymous No.14054097]

Should I?

[Anonymous No.14054144]

>>14054097
probably not

[Anonymous No.14054192]

New thread:

>>14054190
>>14054190
>>14054190

[Anonymous No.14054198]

>>14054192
>260 posts
>another thread still up
Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.14054240]

>>14054192
Why do you do this? Is it actual autism? Are you being medicated?

[Anonymous No.14054249]

>>14050469
the fake patina annoys me t b h.

[Anonymous No.14054253]

Help, my dad recently gave me his watch and said it was also recently serviced a month ago. It suddenly stopped on my wrist today so I wounded it up but it didn’t work, noticed it was rattling and I opened it up when I got home nothing seemed misplaced so I closed it back up, what do now it still doesn’t work. Also fuck watchmakers who eat while servicing your watch, I saw a tiny rectangular bit of pink candy just sitting there inside my watch so I threw that away, disgusting fuckers.

[Anonymous No.14054264]

>>14053793
>Picking Lexus of BMW
>Ever

[Anonymous No.14054282]

>>14050469
Can’t afford a sub?

[Anonymous No.14054294]

>>14054253
Did the “candy” look like this?

[Anonymous No.14054298]

>>14054264
id buy a lexus suv over a bmw suv otherwise no

[Anonymous No.14054300]

>>14050549
if you live in america that makes sens as it was never sold here.

[Anonymous No.14054311]

>>14054294
Yes how the fuck did you find a picture of it? Is that some sort of watchmakers snack or something >>14054298

[Anonymous No.14054319]

>>14054311
>>14054253
Obvious bait.

[Anonymous No.14054332]

>>14049909
>Pelagos, Seamaster, or even Submariner, but without the fragile and mechanical movement

none of those movements are fragile.

[Anonymous No.14054333]

How can you tell if an in house movement is better than a high grade ETA 2824 that's been regulated and given a nice finish?

[Anonymous No.14054348]

>>14054332
Compared to quartz they're very fragile.

[Anonymous No.14054358]

>>14054333
You generally buy mechanical watches for subjective reasons, since they have zero objective advantages over quartz.
So buying something with a generic movement is like defeating the purpose.

[Anonymous No.14054363]

>>14049909
When you realize that the Seikofaggot is just baiting and not to take his posts seriously it all makes more sense

[Anonymous No.14054436]

>>14054358
What you're saying is irrelevant to my question. But maybe no one really knows.

[Anonymous No.14054453]

>>14049984
I like my tuna and all, but you're fucking delusional.

[Anonymous No.14054485]

>>14053818
>not even a spring drive
You're doing it wrong. Go buy a snowflake and come back to us.

[Anonymous No.14054497]

>>14054485
The SBGA387G is a Spring Drive Ltd Edition Snowflake. Learn to read and come back to me.

[Anonymous No.14054504]

>>14053886
Not that guy, but I've seen a few watches myself. GS watches have this clean "shine" to them on the edges of certain things that an omega or rolex may not. I almost got one after initially seeing pictures a couple months ago in one of these threads, but somehow I couldn't get over the design of the watch itself. Did you encounter the same thing in person?

[Anonymous No.14054506]

>>14054453
t. faggot with cognitive dissonance bias over his Sarb-tier Rowlecks.

[Anonymous No.14054520]

>>14054504
Liking the design is completely personal.

Always view a watch in person before purchase if you are spending a serious amount of money. A watch in natural light and on your own wrist can look very different to the photos you see online.

Because of how the GS are polished they do reflect light differently to other brands, it can be too harsh for some.

>>14054497
For those reasons I almost didn't buy this. The dial color looks quite different IRL and the bracelet sucks ass.

[Anonymous No.14054526]

>>14054192
Thanks.
Now I know which one to avoid :^)

[Anonymous No.14054527]

>>14054520
>GS polishing is TOO good

[Anonymous No.14054531]

GS and Rolex approach design from two very different philosophies.

One is quite literally built Japanese design that actually goes back long before Taro Tanaka.

The other is just as impressive but comes first and foremost from an angle of almost pure utilitarianism and function over simple form.

The case design of the Explorer for example is literally designed in this way to withstand higher water pressures.

Both are literal wonders of engineering. If aliens came down and took a look at our tech they would probably be just as impressed by these things as they would be by microprocessors.

[Anonymous No.14054532]

>>14054497
whoa we got a guy from Hodinkee in here

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-grand-seiko-spring-drive-us-only-limited-editions

[Anonymous No.14054536]

>>14054531
>The case design of the Explorer for example is literally designed in this way to withstand higher water pressures.
Now that's good memery.

[Anonymous No.14054538]

>>14054532
Google Images actually. I just don't have that watch on me. If I give a shit I may post a real wrist shot when I do.

[Anonymous No.14054542]

>>14054538
Sure thing boss, whatever you say.

[Anonymous No.14054550]

>>14054531
The discussions in here aren't even about the design, but about the workmanship and finishing.
Rolex' finishing was always pretty basic, and over the past decades has become even more basic as automation increased.
Can't blame them, their shit sells no matter what.

[Anonymous No.14054552]

>>14054542
Thanks for understanding kiddo. I spent all on 10 seconds searching for that example image.

[Anonymous No.14054558]

>>14054536

Paul Perregaux came up with it and Rolex bought the design because of it's water resistance.

It was the first watch to have a caseback that screwed into the case, a crown that screwed into the case, and a bezel that screwed the then acrylic crystal onto the case.

Back then Rolex and other watch manufacturers would try to top each other which feats of engineering, and Rolex was intent on showing their watches could survive anywhere, and having them be able to withstand the challenges of water could address the concerns of average watch consumers which were usually stuff like dust,shock, magnetism and water ingress.

[Anonymous No.14054568]

>>14053818
So, if that's the model you claim it is, then where is the little power reserve hand?

[Anonymous No.14054575]

I want to buy this but I don't want to spend $35k, the Big Bangs look dope but aren't a priority for me this year.

What's a good rep for Hublots?

[Anonymous No.14054577]

>>14054568
Because that's the SBGR305, I did say earlier I own a few GS.

[Anonymous No.14054581]

>>14053818
>>14054497
>>14053410
>claims he owns 2 Grand Seikos
>says they all look so identical that there's no reason to buy a second one if you have one
>says they feel cheap and not of quality
>says the quality is the same as its competitors
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight

[Anonymous No.14054591]

>>14054536
G shock and dive computers are definitely more resilient, and the germans have harder watches than rolex, but there was once a time when they were just neat tool watches and not what they are today.


I think rolex still claims the longest service interval for a mechanical, though.

[Anonymous No.14054595]

>>14054581
What's the issue?

> SBGR305
9S mechanical in titanium
> SBGA387G
Spring Drive in steel

I literally need nothing else. There's no other models in those lines that stand out. I'm certainly not getting a quartz.

At the new price point of those GS I'd rather get JLC.

[Anonymous No.14054598]

>>14048349
>Have 8k in bank account
>Buy 8k watch
Please tell me people don't actually do this. I have 30k and I would definitely say I can't afford an 8k watch. There's a big difference between being able to buy something and being able to afford it.

[Anonymous No.14054602]

>>14054558
>It was the first watch to have a caseback that screwed into the case, a crown that screwed into the case, and a bezel that screwed the then acrylic crystal onto the case.
You're thinking of the original Oyster case, where the bezel fluting served as a gripping surface for tightening the whole watch together.

[Anonymous No.14054603]

>>14054598
People actually do that but typically when that money is from a bonus.

[Anonymous No.14054605]

>>14054595
>"Grand Seiko """dress watches""" look so identical that if you have one there's no reason to buy another"
>buys two

>"Grand Seiko's finishing is at best on par with its competitors, and actually feels like it's lower quality"
>buys two

Good brain, fren.

[Anonymous No.14054610]

>>14054605
If anything you should be thanking him for his patronage since you like Seiko so much. Too bad people like him are giving Seiko a big head.

[Anonymous No.14054611]

>>14054605
*shrug* I'm rich.

A GS to me is like a Casio to you.

[Anonymous No.14054621]

>>14054611
Money doesn't even have anything to do with this: >>14054605
It's just stupidity.

Also, the fact that you fail to notice the universally accepted difference in quality between GS and Rolex (lesser extent Omega) confirms your brainlet status.

[Anonymous No.14054635]

Revamped, and proper new thread:

>>14054633
>>14054633
>>14054633

[Anonymous No.14054636]

>>14054621
It was only after my second GS purchase I realised I didn't want or need another but I didn't regret my purchase because frankly it wasn't a lot of money. What was I going to do next, buy more Snowflakes with different color dials?

The fact you believe there is a universally accepted difference in quality between GS and Rolex confirms your sheeple status.

[Anonymous No.14054643]

>>14054635
there are now 3 watch threads up not at bump limit you fucking chimp

[Anonymous No.14054656]

>>14054636
>The fact you believe there is a universally accepted difference in quality between GS and Rolex confirms your sheeple status.
You're an idiot.

[Anonymous No.14054672]

>>14054656
Well then I'm an idiot who owns Grand Seiko's and Rolexes and enjoys them both. How can I compete with someone who has some pictures from the internet?! Somehow I'll just have to live with myself and my little ol' watch collection.

[Anonymous No.14054685]

>>14054672
>owns Grand Seiko's and Rolexes and enjoys them both.

Nobody has any problem with that.

[Anonymous No.14054828]

>>14054672
Don't encourage the basedko nut bro. I guarantee you he's never even seen one in the flesh

[Anonymous No.14055359]

>>14051567
Name of the Seiko?

[Anonymous No.14055488]

>>14055359
Simon Kevin Xavier.

[Anonymous No.14055637]

>>14055488
thx sempai

[Anonymous No.14056281]

>>14051513

Still triggered by the Quartz revolution, fren?

[Anonymous No.14056308]

>>14053274
>accuracy

m8 pls. They banned Japanese watches from COSC because the Swiss were tired of getting their ass kicked at their own venue.