How do we make fashion straight?

[Anonymous No.13934373]

Im sick of all the faggots in men's fashion now.

Dressing well and being presentable used to be an indicator of class and cleverness.


Now everything is fucking gay. All the people at suit stores are gay. Luxury wear shops are filled with gays. Can't even buy a Rolex without a faggot worker looking to touch my hands and help me "try on watches"

Even the bro-tier stores like Patagonia and L.L.Bean have been infiltrated by faggots and asexual Asian men.

What the fuck? Are straight men supposed to wear rags now?

[Anonymous No.13934376]

>>13934373
off yourself retard

[Anonymous No.13934392]

>>13934376
Gays are getting dethroned

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>>13934392
yeah and your thread asking for "straight clothes" is really doing a fuckin bang up job, great work there bud

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>>13934373
get back in your designated hole, hetfag

[Anonymous No.13934472]

>>13934373
it's inherently gay. "straight" men are a minority for a reason on this board.

[Anonymous No.13934485]

Did you ever see the old bonger show "Are you being Served?"
The setting was a department store and the male characters weren't all fags.

I think what you would need to happen, among other things, is to largely flush women from the workforce and stop mass immigration.
If you decrease the supply of labor available to these stores the they will be forced to pay more and more of those workers will be men.
This would make those positions more viable for straight, normal guys.

This is over-simplistic, though, in that it's rules for a world where I won't just go buy shit online instead of going to this store where I have to pay more to pay for those guys to have good wages.

[Anonymous No.13934551]

>>13934485
the one character with the yellow tie was uber gay though, he was hilarious

[Anonymous No.13934552]

>>13934373
I think part of the reason this board dresses so shit is because it is full of faggots

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>>13934373
first we have to un-fag and de-cuc k str8 bois lol

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>>13934373
techwear is the last bastion for the straight male. real techwear, not that acronym clown shit

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>>13934373
>Can't even buy a Rolex without a faggot worker looking to touch my hands
The only thing touching your hands if you went near a Rolex would be handcuffs you neckbeard larper

[Anonymous No.13934718]

I've seen WAYWT threads, try not dressing like faggots.

[Anonymous No.13934722]

>>13934373
Wait until it’s all Muslims and loud pushy black women.
You’ll pine for the halcyon days of yore when you “only” had to deal with gays.

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>>13934472
>hurr durr we are all gay

Fuck off

[Anonymous No.13935069]

nigga tailors/clothemakers have been a stereotypically gay profession for like 200 years

[Anonymous No.13935310]

Imagine posting in a Mongolian cow farmer’s forum thinking you’re making a difference

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>>13935069
Incorrect.

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>>13934555
nice trips

[Anonymous No.13935510]

>>13935069
Hahaha what? Yeah all those patriarchal old school Italian and Korean tailors are gay

What the fuck is wrong with you? Gays invaded high fashion like 30 years ago shit head

[Anonymous No.13935580]

Related question: how do I stop all these faggots sucking my dick?

[Anonymous No.13935585]

A perfect example of how those far enough on the Autism spectrum tend to see people as "bizarre objects". Truly fascinating.

[Anonymous No.13935606]

>>13934552
this and agp trannies
fags have terrible taste

[Anonymous No.13935606,1]

Imagine being so entitled and insecure about your sexuality that you can't stand dressing the same as gay people

[Anonymous No.13936122]

>>13934373
Like this?

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>>13934373
thread is full of fags
op is based

[Anonymous No.13936151]

didn’t know alex jones browsed /fa/

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>>13936151
Alex jones isn't homophobic

[Anonymous No.13936384]

>>13936360
Being straight is homophobic. The very thought of having sex with another man is revolting and disgusting is by definition homophobic.

Shaming people on "homophobia" is gaslighting people into eventual faggotry.

Just come out of the closet so we can purge you.

[Anonymous No.13936386]

>>13935585
>I don't like this it must be autistic

[Anonymous No.13936391]

>>13935606
>fags have terrible taste

Thank you

[Anonymous No.13936396]

>>13934485
>to largely flush women from the workforce
Yes. Based.

>and stop mass immigration

No. Brown people bring traditionalism. Whites left to their own devices fuck dogs, shoot children and eat pork

[Anonymous No.13936410]

>>13934373
You cant. Be manly no matter what you're wearing. Just don't act like a fag. Fashion is mostly attitude, clothing is just the draping. You can wear whatever you want just don't be a soi cuck but its so prevalent now that it seems like fashion is all gay as fuck.

[Anonymous No.13936518]

>>13936410
Don't give up that easily

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>>13936134
this,desu

[Anonymous No.13936663]

Have the same question as OP. Bump

[Anonymous No.13936667]

>>13934373
>bomber jacket
>flight jackets
>parka jacket
>trench coat
>peacoat
>cargo pants
>cardigan
>t-shirt
>aviators
>boots
dont know any of the men who designed military fashion
yet I can name a bunch of homosexuals who derived their designs from them

[Anonymous No.13936732]

>dude you like fashion? are you some kind of fag lol?
>wtf why is this industry so gay?!
I dunno OP, you tell me.

[Anonymous No.13936756]

>>13936667
>thinking the military isn't the most homoerotic profession in history

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>>13936756
Discord trannies.

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>>13934373
I get what you're saying but it isn't the gays fault. Straight men by and large have given up and completely abandoned formal wear

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The new guy on the men's wear house commercials is gay now too

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rangeban asia and canada

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Someone has a real hard on for trannys...

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>>13936948
Arachnophobic, huh? You must want to fuck spiders.

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isn't it time for you chinks to go to bed? its rate tomorrow you have schoor

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>>13936877
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>>13936967
>Self hating tranner

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>>13936978
Arachnophobic, huh? You must secretly be a spider.

[Anonymous No.13937002]

>>13936992
I don't keep a folder full of spiders

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>>13937002
WTF I love chopping my penis off now.

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>>13937012
Do it

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>>13937015
I didn’t even know what /cd/ was before you posted that. I had to look it up. But I’m the secret tranny? Yikes, comrade.

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>>13936978
>OY VEY THE GOYIM KNOW SHUT IT DOWN

[Anonymous No.13937025]

>>13934373
there's nothing wrong with a homo helping you out getting /fa/ when buying clothes

[Anonymous No.13937036]

>>13937025
Right just like there was nothing wrong with homos push big butts as a male beauty standard and now every dude who lifts squats and deadlifts like its his fucking job

[Anonymous No.13937042]

>butthurt hetties
Hohoho

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>>13937042
Being gay peaked in the early 2000's

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>>13937042
Epic smack down, fellow 4channeller. Those hetties sure are butthurt, hey, the straights sure are assblasted now. We sure got them good, fellow 4channeller. Hohoho. Epic, simply epic. Hohoho.

[Anonymous No.13937075]

imagine living like this everyday

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>>13937075

[Anonymous No.13937230]

Honestly this tranny shit is nightmare fuel,
imagine one day you start acting insane but instead of helping you get better, your friends - some afraid of saying something "wrong", some overeager to virtue signal through you - encourage you that your delusions are real and that you only doubt yourself because of brainwashing - you, of course believe them because the thought something's wrong with the world is nicer than the thought something's wrong with you.

With time they start incentivizing you with attention and praise to be as degenerate as you can be which slowly detaches you from the normal functioning world.

You reach that point where suicide is just waiting to happen - the point at which there is such a stark difference between how the world truly views you and how you view yourself that you start finding the world painful to be in. It's too full of reminders that you're wrong. So you only hang out with the right people, you only visit the right websites, you only consume content that's safe for you - but that means your tolerance to any antagonism is crumbling away. You are left with illness and without defenses in front of a harsh world.

The real travesty is that if you had told your friends you're a dragon or want to chop your arm off they might've tried to help you, but you had the misfortune of wanting to cut your cock off, which means you're totally fine.

[Anonymous No.13937289]

>>13937036
Girls have been pinching butts forever. Why do you think tight jeans were a thing in the 70s and 80s? Women want thick gluted men to power fuck their quivering pussy.

[Anonymous No.13937295]

>It's a "schizo has an episode" episode

[Anonymous No.13937296]

>>13937230
That's just any circlejerk. I've seen this happen to people who get into far right politics, fundamentalist religion, far left politics

[Anonymous No.13937340]

>>13937296
>just like any other circlejerk

Where else have you seen a "circlejerk" result in people gaslighting others into cutting their penises off.

I heard someone say that they would listen to a 2 year old boy if he said he wanted to be a girl and tried to cut his penis off. "2 year Olds are a lot smarter than you think" this is literally the logic people are rolling with.


To be completely honest the "cis" people who ally themselves with trans rights are the fucking worst.

[Anonymous No.13937353]

>make fashion straight
you can't, it's for fags only

[Anonymous No.13937359]

>>13937340
>Where else have you seen a "circlejerk" result in people gaslighting others into cutting their penises off.
umm, all abrahamic religions??? my parents cut a piece of my dick of when i was 8 days old and they hate trans people

>I heard someone say that they would listen to a 2 year old boy if he said he wanted to be a girl and tried to cut his penis off. "2 year Olds are a lot smarter than you think" this is literally the logic people are rolling with.
somethings obviously not right if your two year old is trying to cut off their penis. You think we shouldn't listen to them and just ignore the issue?

[Anonymous No.13937366]

>>13937359
>somethings obviously not right if your two year old is trying to cut off their penis. You think we shouldn't listen to them and just ignore the issue?

He's fucking two years old and doesn't know ANYTHING. two year olds do stupid shit all the fucking time that's why you don't let them play with scissors you fucking idiot

[Anonymous No.13937372]

>>13937366
that's a non sequitor. there's a big difference between a dysphoric child and a fucking retard that can't be left alone around scissors

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>>13937372
You put way too much faith in the words of a 2 year old. Children say shit like "I want to be a dinosaur" "I want to be a mermaid" "I want to be a car I'd go vroom vroom" all the fucking time. A child has no fucking clue who he or she (ha) is, throw that in with the fact that children soak up their environments and influences with a sponge and you'd have to be 100s of levels of irresponsible to just let your kid go about their life.

If a kid is 18 and has stamps from mental health professionals that say that transitioning is the right thing to do then by all means. But until that, stop sexualizing children.

[Anonymous No.13937401]

>>13937393
Yeah no shit, no one's taking their kid to the doctor because they wanted to be the opposite gender one time. You're arguing against a strawman. Have you read the DSM? The primary symptom that you look for is *persistence*. You can know pretty well by puberty whether the kid has GD or not

>If a kid is 18 and has stamps from mental health professionals that say that transitioning is the right thing to do then by all means. But until that, stop sexualizing children.
This has nothing to do with sexuality

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>>13937401
>somethings obviously not right if your two year old is trying to cut off their penis. You think we shouldn't listen to them and just ignore the issue?

>Yeah no shit, no one's taking their kid to the doctor because they wanted to be the opposite gender one time

Pick one bitch

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>>13937402
one of those situations isn't like the other friend

[Anonymous No.13937501]

>>13937404
A child is going through changes and who the fuck knows what they'll think a year in the future. One child might freak the fuck out that their penis is getting bigger and be scared and another might whip it out everywhere and pee on random shit.

Its that room of "doubt" where the fallacious notion of "oh you're the wrong gender" is the most poisonous. Maybe I wore a pink shirt when I was 5. Someone would've probably gaslit me for being secretly a girl or gay or some shit. Now fuck my girlfriend and nut on her tits all the time and love being who I am, a male.


Imagine you have a girl who hates that her breast came in early in her development and all the Teenies around her make fun of her

She'll probably say "I hate these tits everyone makes fun of me". A bad parent will say "OK sweet let's get you a breast reduction" a good parent will tell her to tough it out and she'll have huge titties to flaunt around instagram and she'd make thousands of dollars like all the other grills do.

The ideology is 100% bent on halting the growth of straight outgoing boys there's literally every blocker put in place to shame and drug any signs of masculinity into submission.

Thank God I'm not raising my kids in the US.

[Anonymous No.13937530]

>>13937501
>The ideology is 100% bent on halting the growth of straight outgoing boys there's literally every blocker put in place to shame and drug any signs of masculinity into submission.
So is that why you are the way you are then?

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>>13937530
heh sick burn kid XD

[Anonymous No.13937637]

>>13937296
I wrote the comment you replied to, I'm not sure who's the guy debating you - I do agree with him on a couple of things.
I also agree with what you say here - there's definitely a similar mechanism where we're lured into holding or discarding certain opinions and positions in return for social gains - but for the vast majority of examples I can think for it, it doesn't do irreversible damage, drive your chances for suicide so harshly upwards or is as free of criticism and clear debate.

There are people out there right now, who suffer from mental illness and who through fixation with sex/gender believe that SRS or HRT is what's going to fix them. I fear for what happens to them when they find out it was a false hope. I do - not out of cynicism or ideology, I really do wish these people were better off - and honestly if I thought SRS or HRT were what can help them then I'd be all for it. But I don't think it is and the fact suicide rate pre/post-op is about the same seems to confirm this.

The thought of these people going through irreversible changes to their body and lives based in false hopes seems just horrifying, absolutely cruel from the standpoint of the people who pretend to care for these people.

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>>13937637
I really appreciate your honesty and willingness to talk. It seems like this topic all too often devolves into shit flinging. People are going to look back on the way we treat gender dysphoric people with horror in the future, we are really in the dark ages in our understanding and treatment of the problem.

>The thought of these people going through irreversible changes to their body and lives based in false hopes seems just horrifying, absolutely cruel from the standpoint of the people who pretend to care for these people.
It can definitely look like this from the outside, but have you considered that not preventing a GD person from going through their natal puberty is essentially the same?

[Anonymous No.13937821]

>>13934373
To be completely honest they're the most helpful and this is coming from someone who hates gay, trannies, soi bois, and any kind of thing that isn't made by God.

[Anonymous No.13937828]

>>13936877
What I fucking hate the most is that communism is being infestes with these faggots, they wouldn't survive even a day in a communist state.

[Anonymous No.13937968]

>>13937817
>It can definitely look like this from the outside, but have you considered that not preventing a GD person from going through their natal puberty is essentially the same?

FUCK YOU. YOU HATE NORMAL PEOPLE AND WANT CHILDREN TO JOIN YOUR TRANNY PARTY. YOU DISGUSTING FILTH. A PURGE IS COMING

[Anonymous No.13938375]

>>13934373
Fuck off retard. You're not "straight" if you browse /fa/, this board has more gays per capita than /lgbt/.

[Anonymous No.13938383]

>>13938375
This is exactly the problem. Purge when

[Anonymous No.13938460]

>>13938383
There arent enough straightfags on this board to warrant a purge. None of them are straight either, they're all in the closet.

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>>13937968
What's it like to not be capable of empathy?

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>>13938496
>he's not responding to our shaming tactics
>shut it down

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>>13938460
That's part of your gay agenda isn't it?
Why do you hate the word of God so?

[Anonymous No.13938711]

You stop buying skinny garbage that doesn't fit.

Go back to 20s or 40s mens fashion.

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>>13936978
/ F A /
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>>13935585
>t, FAG

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straight men tend to have very poor taste, both in men's clothing and in women's clothing. If they designed for women there would be a lot more instathots and fat models walking around.

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>>13938920
Women have awful taste.

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>>13937817
>People are going to look back on the way we treat gender dysphoric people with horror in the future, we are really in the dark ages in our understanding and treatment of the problem.
Mental care in general is still in its diapers

>have you considered that not preventing a GD person from going through their natal puberty is essentially the same?
I think this opinion requires a POV where biological sex is irrelevant - but it is, that's why the vast majority of humans don't even bother and say we identify as our gender, if you're an adult and someone walked up to you on the street and asked if you're a boy or a girl you'd probably feel it was an out of place question, animals who have never been told whether they're male or female grow up to take their sex's function and physique.
I'm going to assume that if a child with body integrity dysphoria told you he wants to cut his arm off you wouldn't tell him to go ahead - not because you think that a person can't be happy or fulfilled with just one arm, but because you understand that a fully functioning healthy physique is an important asset and that somethings not quite right with someone who plans on mutilating it.

Why are we giving gender dysphoria different treatment over other identity disorders and dysphorias? there's a vast array of them and they come in all flavors and not uncommonly layered on top of other chronic conditions such as (but not limited to) OCD, PTSD, paranoia, bipolarity, borderline, anxiety, depression.
Why is it that the route for all other dysphorias and identity disorders goes through treating the underlying conditions along with therapy to help the person come to terms with reality, but when it comes to gender we suddenly only treat symptoms of the underlying conditions and ignore the main issue? How come we're treating a condition that has exactly the same mechanism entirely differently?

I'm worried that we're making critical decisions for very vulnerable people based on whims.

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>>13939521
>Why are we giving gender dysphoria different treatment over other identity disorders and dysphorias? there's a vast array of them and they come in all flavors and not uncommonly layered on top of other chronic conditions such as (but not limited to) OCD, PTSD, paranoia, bipolarity, borderline, anxiety, depression.
Why is it that the route for all other dysphorias and identity disorders goes through treating the underlying conditions along with therapy to help the person come to terms with reality, but when it comes to gender we suddenly only treat symptoms of the underlying conditions and ignore the main issue? How come we're treating a condition that has exactly the same mechanism entirely differently?

Because gender dysphoria (in reality, MtF's, FtM's are still irrevelant) strikes the feminism / war on traditional masculinity and war on traditional femininity nerve.

Liberals eat that shit up and screech on social media and regular media. If you turn on the television you'd imagine transgenderism is a widespread epidemic instead of the reality that it's like less than 2% of the population.

We've sunk so low that instead of encouraging girls to be mothers and lovers we demonize femininity and push them into being Hilary Clintons. Instead of pushing boys to be leaders and athletes we demonize fatherhood, give them Ritalin, tell them to shut the fuck up and now we have a bunch of colored hair weirdos who make shitty SoundCloud music, reee about Chad and kill themselves

The state makes boatloads off of cash off this shit BTW

[Anonymous No.13940539]

>>13939720
>>13939521
>but when it comes to gender we suddenly only treat symptoms of the underlying conditions and ignore the main issue?
This is why it's important to see where the dysphoria is coming from. Is the person normally functioning and happy except for their body, or are they generally depressed and just think the other gender has it easy, that being a woman means laughing at salad or being a man means wearing sweaters and ties and confidence? Does their brain look like one you'd see in the opposite sex? It'll be awesome when we can see which of their sex genes just didn't turn on and created an altered development, and if everything is in order look at other issues. If you have BPD with narcissistic and histrionic tendencies, that's probably the cause of you latching onto what feels like a new trend.
>FtM's are still irrevelant
But they still exist and are some of the most passable and well-adjusted trans people - along with a lot that aren't because of the amount of female nonbinary teen and twentysomethings under the same category.
> it's like less than 2% of the population
Less than 150 million (if we're saying world population) is still a pile, and even 0.2% would be 15 million. The more people on the planet, the more naturally occurring cases.

Basically, there are people way too excited to give a treatment when not looking at causation, but that doesn't mean every person on HRT or with bottom surgery regrets it. With trans people being more evident in media, therapists and doctors need to consider other disorders (and people need to go to actual therapists instead of people on the internet with an agenda), but simultaneously it makes sense if their only disorder is gender dysphoria they'll be coming forth with questions about it.

Inb4 archived thread, it was trash from the start.

[Anonymous No.13940609]

>>13940539
Trans people get more media representation than interracial couples do lmao

Go away boygirl

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