/wt/ - Watch Thread

[Anonymous No.13872468]

This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that are required to make a functioning timepiece.

> Required viewing for new people:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSJRkEIVRM4


> Used watch guide:
https://pastebin.com/f44aJKy2

> Strap guide:
http://pastebin.com/SwRysprE

> watch essentials 102:
http://pastebin.com/Rc77hhXV

Previous thread:>>13864684

[Anonymous No.13872492]

Tfw you’ll never be Jean-Claude Biver’s son

https://youtube.com/watch?v=XvLhJamAjAs

[Anonymous No.13872493]

[DoñaPepa !!K2U/aBrgGFE No.13872514]

I wanted an oyster perpetual with the rhodium dial but the lume on the Explorer is calling me

[Anonymous No.13872515]

>>13872493
The fuck?
Are you in here 24/7?

[Anonymous No.13872517]

>>13872515
yes, I sleep at odd hours and have 0 obligations

[Anonymous No.13872557]

Sinn 556i is my daily
G-Shock DW5600 is my beater

[Anonymous No.13872558]

>>13872517
Based
You should start to shitpost with a theme other than your collection
Pick a watch and become the new windyknob

[Anonymous No.13872562]

>>13872492
Too many heavy hitters, how can you fully appreciate them when you have them like alpha m has mvmts

[Anonymous No.13872566]

>>13872493
bottom left
the band off that Casio, I must have it. Can you help me? Also that Orient...fucking nice.

[Anonymous No.13872579]

>>13872558
I bought a year hosting for a site, will post it when I'm done but all it's going to be is pictures of my collection, videos of me handling them over royalty free violin music, maybe affiliate links. I don't want to be a youtuber but I spend so much time looking at watches I should have something related to it

>>13872566
Thanks, https://www.cheapestnatostraps.com/search?q=le+mans

[Anonymous No.13872592]

>>13872579
>I bought a year hosting for a site, will post it when I'm done but all it's going to be is pictures of my collection, videos of me handling them over royalty free violin music, maybe affiliate links. I don't want to be a youtuber but I spend so much time looking at watches I should have something related to it
Okay, that's a very solid start!

[Anonymous No.13872831]

>>13872492
Such a comfy video, but I gotta say I disagree a little with him when it comes to small size watches, I would use them even today.

[Anonymous No.13872840]

what's more /fa/, having the day dial in English or Japanese?

[Anonymous No.13872846]

>>13872840
English if you are not a slimy sperg

[Anonymous No.13872858]

>>13872493
A couple of my straps costs more than your entire sotc

[Anonymous No.13872864]

>>13872858
So?

15..
Im so done

[Anonymous No.13872874]

>>13872840
>Japanese
Stop being a weeb

[Anonymous No.13872882]

>>13872831
I agree with you on the small sizes. He’s a real mad lad, check out his twitter.

[Anonymous No.13872947]

>>13872858
I doubt it but good for you

[Anonymous No.13872973]

90s core diver checking in

[Anonymous No.13872975]

>>13872973
Are you a lefty?

[Anonymous No.13872979]

>>13872975
Yea.

[Anonymous No.13873016]

>>13872973
Just wondering, can you replace the bezel of that watch?

[Anonymous No.13873019]

Very cool clock just restored :) this electric eureka clock was made in 1909 and only 10000 were made. Very hard to find a complete original one these days. Sry for bad quality.

[Anonymous No.13873020]

>>13872979

[Anonymous No.13873028]

>>13873019
>1909
Very nice anon, too bad most of these /fa/ggots here care more about watches and fashion than technology.

[Anonymous No.13873060]

Why is Archie perpetually butthurt about the Urban Gentry?
Did TGV cuck him or something?

[Anonymous No.13873065]

>>13873060
TGV is more successful and gives credit to nun luxury watches too, that is pretty much why he hates him.

[Anonymous No.13873070]

I don't get how archie even has an audience. The kind of people who would value the opinion of a greasy little shit probably can't afford the things he's talking about and I'd imagine the people who can afford it have better shit to do

[Anonymous No.13873094]

>>13872831
You realize hes just saying they have to cater to the chinese and the nouveau rich

[Anonymous No.13873098]

>>13873060
>>13873065
The Urban Rat fucked him over and shills garbage seiko shitters to poor children. He also has toys all over his office like a fucking little boy.

[Anonymous No.13873109]

>>13873098
This tells a lot about ac3 and his audience

[Anonymous No.13873143]

>>13873016
You must be able to remove it. Don’t think spares are very common.

[Anonymous No.13873184]

OP forgot to include the link

https://discord.gg/8nj7key

[Anonymous No.13873186]

>>13873020
You lack both taste and class.

[Anonymous No.13873187]

>>13873184
You should have made a proper thread.

[Anonymous No.13873191]

What are /wt/'s thoughts on the Seiko Astron and watches like them?

I never see anyone ever talk about them to the point where I don't even know what the generic name given to these types are, nor what the general opinion is about them. I figure that people immediately write them off because of the quartz movement.

I'm kinda tempted to add one to the collection but I'm not sure.

[Anonymous No.13873193]

>>13873191
Looks ugly.

[Anonymous No.13873200]

>>13873187
Yeah, but I don't want to be a thread splitting cuck.

[Anonymous No.13873202]

>>13873060
>more successful
>not a fat, balding mess
>more popular
>not a petty piece of shit

The fact that AC3 is so butthurt and has to take pokes at him all the time with that dollar store Tiger Air merch just shows this shit keeps him awake at night.

[Anonymous No.13873203]

>>13873191
>astron
The what?

[DoñaPepa !!K2U/aBrgGFE No.13873216]

>>13873060
Because he wont pander to the seiko, casio, invicta crowd and pretends that all of his viewers are gentlemen with good taste
How can you not dislike tgv? From his pretend family crest to his fake Roman ancestry
He's just some slimy brit
At least he's better than that homo teddy and that fat jew with the disgusting beard

[Anonymous No.13873226]

>>13873216
>seiko, casio, invicta crowd
aka the cancer of the watch community

[Anonymous No.13873233]

>>13873226
Are you retarded? Seiko are basically the toyota of the watch world. They make everything from $100 shitters to $200k halo pieces. You need to be a very small brained person to hate them

[Anonymous No.13873239]

>>13873216
I don't get it, where did the watch world go wrong. Our choices of reviewers are basically:
>larping Brit
>fat slimy shouting Aussie
>fat bearded jew
>fat bearded wop
>homo twink shit
>a pair of faggots larping as ADs

Surely there must be someone decent out there.

[Anonymous No.13873260]

>>13873226
>hating on seiko and casio
But why

[Anonymous No.13873269]

>>13873187
This is the proper thread, dont come to this site if you dont want to actually post here

[Anonymous No.13873271]

>>13873028
Probably why these threads got moved over here. But yes, /wt/ seems to be about cases and dials. I post clocks in here every now and then, but very few people seem to care about them. Not suprised considering how few people know how to work on clocks. And it IS a watch thread i guess. I just post to share cool watchmaking projects for those who are really deep in.

[Anonymous No.13873276]

>>13873260
Why wouldn't you?

[Anonymous No.13873277]

>>13873271
>Probably why these threads got moved over here
Yeah I"m sure it had nothing to do with a certain gaylord faggot. Are you high?

[Anonymous No.13873280]

>>13873271
Show how it works then. We like clocks but they are not as common as wristwatches.

[Anonymous No.13873281]

opinions on Gant watches?

[Anonymous No.13873284]

>>13873186
The watch is fine, lefties are sub-human.

[Anonymous No.13873285]

>>13873239
Tgv, archie, time teller, fredrique, teddy, theo & Harris
Were those all right?
For a while I considered him a B tier watch channel, but Just one more watch has ascended to tier 1, not insightful shit or lengthy discussions, just watch overviews but good.
Armand the watch guy makes solid content, despite the fact it puts me to sleep.
I dont get any serious hate for TGV, just whatever he says with a grain of salt and enjoy the presentation (which is usually way above everyone else) . Also the larping shit is fun and sort of what I want in a watch presenter , isnt that half what watches are about? Delusions of grandeur

[Anonymous No.13873294]

>>13873276
Why would I?

[Anonymous No.13873295]

>>13873277
Will you calm down? Sorry i dont follow every single thread, jesus.
>>13873280
How what works? If you mean the eureka electric clock its very simple!
Down by the big balance there's an egg shaped disc, turning with the balance, when the balance is rotating the egg pushes the lever, wich pushes the wheel. A spring grabs the wheel to make sure the wheel doesnt go back once its pushed! Its electric so there is no spring or weights on this clock, it gets a tiny push with every turn and runs on 1.5 volt!
I dont know all the terms and words for parts in english so hard g
to explain correctly. Here's a better pic instead of that low quality gif :)

[Anonymous No.13873297]

>>13873276
Because it isnt seiko's fault that they are nowhere near the king status of casio where everything they touch turns to gold. With their actual useful technology they embed in their watches, effective modern marketing, and an array of different lines of watches, that in themselves include such a deluge of designs that you simply cannot resist 1 or 2 even if you hated the idea of owning casio. They close in on you and embrace with their spindly cold japanese arms and laugh as you are powerless, groping your cock as the doors close and the train departs from the station.

[Anonymous No.13873304]

>>13873281
Knockoff Junghans.

Its a cheap quartz that'll last like a year or two max.

[Anonymous No.13873307]

>>13873284
I’m not really left handed. I just wear my watch on my right hand because I always have.

[Anonymous No.13873339]

>>13873295
>it gets a tiny push with every turn and runs on 1.5 volt!
Cool stuff.
But did they seriously have 1,5 volt batteries in 1909? Or did it originally use some power converter?

[DoñaPepa !!K2U/aBrgGFE No.13873344]

>>13873260
Don't hate Seiko, but their fanboys are terrible.
Worse are the Invicta pro diver crowd, and now you have this growing movement of faggots slowly pushing vincero, mvmt etc like that guy I didn't know existed (alpha m)
>On November 13th, 2018 the watch community went in an uproar
>One of the largest authorities
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMjPukG6fUM

How can anyone like that teddy guy?

[Anonymous No.13873349]

>>13873344
I have seen only a few videos of that alpha m, but even though he doesn't know what he's talking about, the guy has a fun personality.

[Anonymous No.13873350]

>>13873344
Both of them are garbage people.
Teddy is a hurt beta who ate and digested the mechanical meme and Aaron is a slimy marketing scumbag who just sells bullshit to his beta audience.

[Anonymous No.13873365]

>>13873285
>Were those all right?
Congrats, you know your Watchfags.

[Anonymous No.13873395]

>>13873339
Originally these clocks had a large leclanche type batteri wich would last about 3 years! Now you would just use a D cell batteri :)

Gif is a ships clock escapement! Pretty much a big version of what you'd see in a wrist watch

[Anonymous No.13873513]

Would you trust a 100m rated watch with a pressed in caseback?

[Anonymous No.13873533]

>>13873513
Try administering the watch up your rectum to simulate the pressure down at 100m, then eat a bad curry to simulate the water. When you shit the watch out, if it's still working, then congrats it can dive to 100m.

[Anonymous No.13873540]

>>13873281
why would you want a boomer brand on your watch

[Anonymous No.13873568]

>>13873513
My citizen is 200 meters rated and has a snap on back. I was swimming and showering with it. Works fine.

[Anonymous No.13873585]

>>13873395
Pretty cool stuff anon
I like those old clock mechanisms because they are not as fragile as watches, they are very interesting to watch too.
They are loud as fuck though.

[Anonymous No.13873587]

Looking for a watch for work, either as a waiter or service, like as a Barista or something similar.
Would getting a Vincero do me well?

[Anonymous No.13873612]

>>13873587
Yes, a Vincero would be stunning

[Anonymous No.13873672]

>>13873587
>Vincero
Why is this a fucking meme now?

[Anonymous No.13873678]

>>13873540
>boomer brand
what now?

[Anonymous No.13873691]

[Anonymous No.13873723]

Best analog beater under 50 burgers?

[Anonymous No.13873727]

>>13873723
vostok amphibia

[Anonymous No.13873774]

Hello wt

[Anonymous No.13873854]

Well /wt/. In the end it sold for $120. Thanks for the advice it really worked out.

So I guess the next step if buying non-white dial Seiko 5's for 1000-2000 yens, servicing them and throwing them on Ebay.

[Anonymous No.13873898]

>>13873774
Good evening, very tasteful timepiece you have there.

[Anonymous No.13873914]

>>13873854

Nice one, bruv. Congrats.

[Anonymous No.13873985]

want a junghans chronoscope

[Anonymous No.13873991]

>>13873854
wait what was the issue with those? was it a fake?

[Anonymous No.13873998]

>>13873991
What?

[Anonymous No.13874084]

Any opinions on Sternglas watches? particularly the naos model but also the zirkel.
i know i know the naos is quartz reeee but is this a respectable enough watch?

[Anonymous No.13874119]

>tfw wear a watch so long that you get the ol' greasy wrist and it smells funny

[Anonymous No.13874120]

>>13874084
What is it with these fashion shitters that attract you people?
Just buy a fucking MVMT if you want that crap and be done with it.

[Anonymous No.13874123]

>>13874084

[Anonymous No.13874152]

>>13873297
based

[Anonymous No.13874155]

>>13873395

very cool thank you

[Anonymous No.13874161]

>>13873774

That watch looks like absolute dogshit but you have an excellent cellphone camera.

[Anonymous No.13874177]

jura not shipping friday order bbbbooo

[Anonymous No.13874187]

Did l fuck up?

[Anonymous No.13874202]

I'll never be happy until I get a Rolex Milgaus with that ridiculous second hand.

[Anonymous No.13874312]

>>13874187
no
>>13874202
you are retarded

[Anonymous No.13874317]

>>13874312
Atleast tell me why.

[Anonymous No.13874403]

>>13874161
I'll grant the looks are dated and I have to find a better strap. It's a technically excellent watch of course - the most tightly-specced wristwatch ever produced by daini and the fourth-most tightly-specced wristwatch in history

[Anonymous No.13874419]

>>13874187
The only Omega chronograph you're allowed to buy is the original MAN ON THE FUCKING MOON.

[Anonymous No.13874442]

>>13874403
Explain please
How much are those?

[Anonymous No.13874454]

Anyone see anything worth getting on Cyber Monday? JCPenney seems to have decent discounts in Seiko and an extra 30% off at checkout. Wanted to get the black and gold solar for $85 on Friday but didn't make it in time.

[Anonymous No.13874480]

>>13874442
Mine was $174 on Yahoo jp. It is a twin quartz movement specced at 5 seconds per year, the only 5spy watch movement family made by daini Seiko. Seiko has made four 5spy movement families ever - the 948x, 968x, and 998x, which I own, and a limited edition 9f movement. All their other haq (including the current production 9f) are 10spy or more. 5spy is a pretty universal barrier. The only credible tighter spec ever from a quartz watch was the citizen 8650, a 4mhz high-frequency quartz rated 3spy. The citizen 7370 (the one I own) is much more common; it's rated at 5spy with essentially the same movement. Aside from that the only two tighter specced watches were atomic watches (from hoptroff, for example) specced at 1 second per millennium (they actually contain a miniature cesium atomic clock). Morgenwerk and hoptroff have made tighter specced quartz watches on paper but the evidence so far is they don't really meet spec. Citizen will release a 1spy wristeatch soon but hasn't yet.

[Anonymous No.13874533]

>>13874480
You might know, how do they even spec a watch to 5 spy, is it all theoretical until they actually run them for months and check the deviation?

[Anonymous No.13874545]

Cop or not fellas

[Anonymous No.13874557]

>>13874533
I mean you don't determine the weight limit on a bridge by building it, driving heavier trucks over it until it breaks, weighing the last truck, and rebuilding it. Quartz crystals have decently understood temperature responses that can be reasonably well measured and controlled - a big part, especially today, is how much effort you want to go into calibrating any specific watch. I'm sure there was indeed testing on high-end haq watches in the late 70s and early 80s; I wouldn't be surprised if all that distinguished Grand movements vs Superior movements was their testing results after whatever adjustment that could be done economically at scale was done.

These days at least it is very reasonable to measure the precise rate of a watch to much better than 1spy precision and thus spec your watch at whatever level you choose. The biggest issue is aging - it is hard to predict how any given quartz crystal will age, which is why it is such a shame that so few modern quartz movements are user-adjustable (though I believe the Seiko 9f is, if I remember correctly).

[Anonymous No.13874626]

>>13874403
Woooow

[Anonymous No.13874628]

>>13874545
bruh its fucking timex is this a joke

[Arachni No.13874674]

Did I fuck up?

[Anonymous No.13874682]

>>13874674
Ÿou were born black, it's not your fault.

[Anonymous No.13874685]

>>13874674
good watch if ur lifeguard at inner city pool

[Anonymous No.13874686]

>>13874312
TELL ME WHY I'M RETARDED!

[Anonymous No.13874707]

>>13874403
This asshole has all the cool watches

[Anonymous No.13874754]

>>13874707
there is no need to be upset anon.

[Anonymous No.13874759]

>>13874682
>>13874685
I knew I should have bought the Invicta. It was on sale too

[Anonymous No.13874784]

>>13874628
I should probably lurk moar, but unironically I'm seriously considering this watch

[Anonymous No.13874834]

>>13874759
Idk what you're gonna do with it. It's not particularly stylish. I would have only gotten that gshock if it was on sale and I needed a new outdoors watch

[Anonymous No.13874891]

Serious question. Does the level of finishing on a movement have any effect on the efficiency and performance of the movement? In other words, higher end watches tend to feature extreme finishing in their movements, but will it contribute to the movements actually being more accurate long-term (or even something like contributing to less wear on the movement through use)?

I've never gotten a satisfactory answer to this...(I don't mean I want to hear the answer I want to hear, I mean that I want some quantifiable information that says, 'yes, a well finished balance cock will perform better than a brutally cut one because xxxx').

>>13874187
Yes you did, and you posted this in the previous thread, and it was answered. 5100 all the way.

[Anonymous No.13874993]

>>13874674
>Black
>Namefag
Is this some elaborate bait?

[Anonymous No.13875044]

>>13874891
generally no. Anglage, perlage, etc. are non-functional. That said, there is certain things that have an impact on the long-term reliability of a watch. Precisely machined parts will be easier to disassemble and reassemble.

[Anonymous No.13875057]

>>13874891
Finishing of moving parts and contact surfaces does

[Anonymous No.13875062]

>>13875044
Thanks Anon. I was leaning towards that answer, but I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who thinks so.

The precisely machined parts makes sense, of course. Well, there we are.

>>13875057
Hmm...but aren't the contact surfaces mostly jeweled, and or gear and wheel contacts? In other words, I could understand that finishing of the escape wheel would make obvious differences....but the sides of the escape wheel (as in, the spokes of the wheel) could be rough as shit and it wouldn't make a difference, as long as the wheel itself was balanced by weight properly...right? Or am I far off...?

Hope everyone is having a good night....as usual, it's quiet.

[Anonymous No.13875070]

>>13875062
don't drink alone, anon.

Good news for me - my Slava finally budged after being stuck in Russia postal tracking for weeks.

[Anonymous No.13875082]

>>13875070
I always do...it's the only way I can guarantee that I don't hurt anyone (not physically, but verbally). I get very direct, which most people can't handle. So, it's far better to drink alone, because then I can be happy and no one gets bothered...

That being said, I'm sure you're happy with the Slava. I've never been attracted to the Russian watches myself...though I'm sure I could understand the historical significance in them. How's it running?

[Anonymous No.13875084]

>>13875062
Read my comment again it is correct

[Anonymous No.13875092]

>>13875082
I don't have it yet, it just got to US customs. But at least it landed at JFK and isn't stuck in Russia anymore.

[Anonymous No.13875098]

>>13875084
Sorry, you're quite right. Now for the question that is really at the heart of it all. Do any of you actually find it attractive in a piece to have all the decorations on the movement that are not connected at all with the running of the watch? There's a part of me that can't help but see it as unnecessary extravagance (though that's somewhat laughable considering what it is that the ornamentation is carved on). But to me it's like a well decorated handgun....Fine to put in a museum, but I'd never want to use one as a real weapon.

With watches it's very strange....on the one hand, there's an obvious attraction to them due to their aesthetic value...if not, we'd all be using cheap quartzs and not thinking of anything else. But the decorations on a movement really seem odd to me...I don't know why I can't square the circle on that one.

>>13875092
lol Sorry, I misunderstood your comment. OH SHIT!! This is the Russian version of the Accutron, right? How the hell are ya man? Jesus...is my writing style really that recognizable?

[Anonymous No.13875113]

>>13875098
Yes, it's the Russian copy of the 214. Again, not 100% sure about the dial but it seems decently legitimate as far as I can tell from the very limited references out there. Hopefully it's runs okay because it's basically unserviceable.

Yes, your writing style is pretty recognizable.

>>13875098
My interests are obviously fairly technical in nature but I am a fan of very well-finished movements. But, separately, I am not as much a fan of thoroughly decorated movements. A simple finish like a dufour is much more what I look for than something gaudy like a FP Journe.

[Anonymous No.13875127]

>>13875113
>Yes, your writing style is pretty recognizable.

It hurts so much more because there is no ambiguity in the statement..lol Eh, such is life.

Given your knowledge though, couldn't you at least be able to attempt to service it if things are not great? I mean, I can understand the lack of parts which might be a problem...but in terms of diagnosing problems and at least coming up with potential solutions....I'm sure you'd be able to do that, right?

[Anonymous No.13875137]

>>13875127
I'm definitely not qualified to service it. Unfortunately, if it doesn't run well, the issue is most likely "the index wheel needs replacing." And no-one will likely agree to disassemble it, since if they damage the coils, they are irreplaceable, unlike a normal accutron, for which replacement coils are readily available.

[Anonymous No.13875141]

>>13875113
Journe's movements don't look any more extravagantly finished than Dufour's to me. The only extra finish is the barleycorn guilloche on the mainplate. Looks pretty good to be honest.

[Anonymous No.13875165]

>>13875137
Hmm...fair enough. Well, here's hoping it works Anon. I must admit, I've thought about picking up a basic accutron out of sheer curiosity. I've always wanted to hear it hum.

>Pic unrelated but obligatory

[Anonymous No.13875166]

Own: Seiko SKX007, Orient Bambino. Casio f91w

want a watch around $500 what should i get?

[Anonymous No.13875170]

>>13875166
Get a Seagull. It'll be your first column-wheel mechanical chronograph. Handwound, around $300, depending on where you get it.

[Anonymous No.13875176]

>>13875165
I took a spectrogram of my 300Hz Longines and my 360Hz Accutron at one point. The peaks are super clean. If you want to get a tuning fork I recommend an accutron 218, or if you want to spend a little more, an ESA9162 like the longines ultronic or omega f300 (the movement was used in tons of watches, many of which have awesome names, like the tissot tissonic). Those two movements are the most reliable and have the best parts availability.

[Anonymous No.13875189]

>>13875176
Thanks Anon...I will admit, in the very cursory research I did, I came to the conclusion that I absolutely wanted one of the old Bulovas. The technology isn't want interest me as much as the idea, if that makes any sense. As an example, the other day I was thinking about getting one of the cheap Seagull tourbillons, not because of the quality of the piece, but so that I could eventually take it apart. They're ugly as shit, but it has nothing to do with the watch, it has everything to do with what is inside.

Granted, the two ideas are not the same at all, but it's how I'm thinking. I'd never take apart a fully functioning Accutron...that would be ludicrous. As would taking apart a proper tourbillon. But it's all about having the experience of it, rather than collecting. Does any of that make sense?

>pic is a tourbillon I'd be insane to take apart...

[Anonymous No.13875204]

>>13875176
All that being said, is there any reason I should avoid the Accutron 214s? I love the spaceview, but the astronaut (black face) is really in my wheelhouse in terms of aesthetics....

>as usual, pic unrelated

[Anonymous No.13875209]

>>13875204
The 214s are fine, they're just more difficult to service, and donor parts are not quite as easy to find. In particular the adjustment of the index mechanism is much more touchy - the 218 has an improved indexing system that allows the fingers to be adjusted by moving a collet, vs the 214 when the watchmaker has to literally adjust the fingers by bending them with tweezers under a microscope.

You should also decide whether your heart is set on an "original" spaceview or are happy with a conversion. I consider my conversion to be a true spaceview, since the whole *point* of the spaceview is how they were converted commonly, and since aftermarket conversion kits were officially available from the factory anyways, I don't consider them undesirable frankens. If you want an "original" spaceview you'll need to do a lot of research and pay a premium.

[Anonymous No.13875213]

>>13875209
Yeah, that was my understanding. The cost for a very good one has put me off getting one, but every few years I come back to the idea. I agree, both with the conversion issue as well as doing serious research before pulling the trigger. We'll see...Thanks for the thoughts.

>the one I don't miss...though it is somewhat rare in this titanium combo.

[Anonymous No.13875232]

>>13875189
Update on your father’s watch?

[Anonymous No.13875238]

>>13875232
Which one? Sorry, I can't remember...

[Anonymous No.13875248]

>>13875232
You’re the German right?

[Anonymous No.13875266]

>>1387523
This was meant for this
>>13875248

[Anonymous No.13875271]

>>13875248
This was meant for this
>>13875238

[Anonymous No.13875278]

>>13875271
And I thought I was drunk...lol

I have lived in Germany, but am not Germany by birth. Does that help? Warum?

[Anonymous No.13875283]

>>13875278
Why do you always post about being drunk?

[Anonymous No.13875290]

>>13875278
I don’t think you’re the one I’ve given advice to regarding refinishing bracelets

[Anonymous No.13875291]

>>13875283
To have a future excuse when spelling goes to shit, however tonight it was another Anon who mentioned not getting drunk alone. While I appreciate the sentiment, which is normally shared between friends, I did want to respond to him about it.

Normally I do try to talk about watches though, or at least questions that have plagued me and that I think are important enough in the general balances of horology to throw out to you guys. No matter what, I always learn something, and hopefully from discussion we all learn a little something too...though in truth I'm only a specialist in very specific watches, and even that I'm not as well researched as any of the watchmakers who occasion this board.

Why do you ask Anon? And/or, what are you drinking tonight?

>>13875290
No, I've never personally refinished a bracelet, and given what my Seamaster requires, I'd never choose to do it on my own. It's a pain in the ass. So, you've got the wrong McFly.

>The other...but this one was somehow more sentimental.

[Anonymous No.13875324]

Until next time then. Thanks for the company, mates.

[Anonymous No.13875342]

should I get one?

what's /wt/s opinion of them?

I used to think it was the ugliest thing ever but the more I see pictures of it, the more I am wanting one for some reason

[Anonymous No.13875463]

My Promaster is going back due to a movement issue where it wouldn’t wind automatically very well. Had about 5 hours of power reserve.
Probably going to try to find a new old stock one.

[Anonymous No.13875467]

>>13873307
You’re not alone.

[Anonymous No.13875468]

>>13875342
I love them but I’d never wear them as they’re too bulky and big.

[Anonymous No.13875492]

>>13873585
Very loud yes. I would never have a clock Running at home. The chimes would make me go insane.

[Anonymous No.13875503]

>bought mechanical watch, Omega Seamaster
>spent like 4x the price of a comparable quartz
>mainspring lasts less than 40 hours, most of the time it's dead on Monday if I don't wear it during the weekend
>sometimes dies overnight
>dreadfully inaccurate despite being a COSC chronograph (loses over 5 seconds a day)
>due to its inaccuracy I still have to fiddle with it even when it doesn't die overnight
>normies can't even tell the difference between quartz and mech, and if I explain it to them they look at me as if I were talking about rocket science
>meanwhile, grills keep miring basic DW and other shit brands
>ridiculous amounts of buyer's remorse, can't even sell it without taking a huge hit

Why do I keep falling for /g/'s memes?

[Anonymous No.13875512]

>>13875503
>omemega
should've bought a seiko 5 moron

[Anonymous No.13875513]

>>13875503
You buy watches for yourself, not for others, if you wanted to try mechanicals watches to see if you liked them or not, you shoulda started with a cheap one, not blowing a huge amount of money on a Omega as your first piece, this also applies to any passtime. You start low to see if you like what you're getting into and then you get to research ang buy something higher.
In short, you got noone to blame but yourself, not /g/.

[Anonymous No.13875525]

>>13875503
You bought it brand new? How old is it?

But yea. I learned that spending lots of money on a watch is a generally fuckin stupid thing to do.

[Anonymous No.13875538]

Looking ok on a perlon or back to brown leather? Can anyone tell me more about these earlier JeanRichards as im really only familiar with the more modern lines. Also whats up with cuervosy sobrinos?

[Anonymous No.13875540]

>>13875503
We never told you to buy a shitter. We told you to buy a vintage seiko quartz.

[Anonymous No.13875545]

>>13874545
If you like the watch, do it. Don't let buyfags tell you what to do.

[Anonymous No.13875557]

Just wondering, do people here wanted to take macro shots of their watches but don't have a profesional camera? Because I might have the solution for it.

[Anonymous No.13875574]

>>13875557
>Because I might have the solution for it.

go on ....

[Anonymous No.13875577]

>>13875574
7-8 dollars on ali, now these are only video, it gets even better on photos

>>>/g/68672013
>>>/g/68672284
>>>/g/68672434
>>>/g/68672757

[Anonymous No.13875687]

Anyone waiting for watches in the mail?

[Anonymous No.13875688]

And then one day I realized, the real shitter wasn't any watch. It was me

Good morning all

[Anonymous No.13875697]

>>13875688
p-powerful....

[Anonymous No.13875699]

>>13875687
Yeah

[Anonymous No.13875706]

>>13875687
Yep. Two SCEDs.

[Anonymous No.13875708]

>>13875687
I am waiting for the shittiest cheapest watches I have ever bought.

[Anonymous No.13875715]

>>13875687
I sworn off buying till spring, but right now I still got ones that customs randomly selected to rob me for, so I didn't reply. Now I'm waiting for them to get back to Buyee, so I can have them sent out again. Chances are they'll slip through the second time.

If I remember correctly one is a Hisonic, the other a King Quartz.

[Anonymous No.13875716]

>>13875699
>>13875708
What are they

>>13875706
Didn't they have a price hike?

[Anonymous No.13875717]

Good luck on the 9983 anon, I hope you get a good price.

[Anonymous No.13875720]

>>13875717
There's been a complication. zenmarket has locked out bidding on one of the 2 watches due to a poor seller rating. IDK how that works because they're both from the same seller

[Anonymous No.13875723]

>>13875717
Also I'm a little concerned about the day/date being misaligned in the window on the one that allows bidding

[Anonymous No.13875724]

>>13875715
Are there always an abundance of penis seikos or what is the deal with those. I know you gotta proxy Yahoo auctions, and they are really good quality. But I feel like I would check once or twice and forget about it, is there really 0 maintenance on them (I know its quartz but still), and the payoff to price (2-400 unless I'm way off) that good that it's worth always checking?

I'm not even able to find orients or gshocks from a decade back

[Anonymous No.13875725]

[Anonymous No.13875734]

>>13875720
>>13875723
Taking a quick look, I don't think the gold one is locked out due to seller feedback - there's some word in the description tripping a lock. That said, the steel one is what I'd consider more desirable given it's dial texture.

The date wheel misalignment is a legitimate concern. My twin quartz watches have date issues. That said, depending on what's wrong with the mechanism, donor parts are often available from cheaper calibers.
https://www.thewatchsite.com/21-japanese-watch-discussion-forum/171322-not-all-twins-were-alike.html#/topics/171322?page=2

[Anonymous No.13875739]

>>13874545
>>13874628
Don't listen to him anon, timex is fine for a cheap shitter. Be prepared for loud ass ticking though.

>>13875342
They look completely out of place on anyone who isn't wearing a full scuba suit

>>13875503
>I bought what other people told me to buy, for the sake of impressing other people, and now I'm upset because it isn't what I wanted.
Grats

[Anonymous No.13875751]

Call me spoiled by the Swiss, but I've grown to only want "complicated movements," and the simplest one I will settle for is a nice chrono.

[Anonymous No.13875754]

>>13875724
The maintenance on a penisquartz is no different than any other quartz. They should be disassembled and cleaned every few years; if you don't, they'll probably keep running for decades anyways. The watches run a huge gamut of quality; the last two steel 9983-7000 pieces I saw on Yahoo Jo sold for around 2k usd while cheaper ones and go for under 10 USD. There's always plenty available on Yahoo jp but if you're looking for rarer, higher end models, it can involve a couple months of waiting. I've been looking for a particular model of a 3883 for a little over a year.

[Anonymous No.13875760]

Newfag here...
Are Orient watches good?
Is Amazon a legit vendor of Orient watches?

[Anonymous No.13875765]

>>13875724
I think right now King Quartz, Grand Quartz and Superior models are overpriced for what they are, but Type II's are pretty good watches for a bargain.

[Anonymous No.13875770]

>>13875760
amazon in general is gray market mostly. There may be some QC problems but you should be fine

[Anonymous No.13875804]

The zenmarket site could use some work. It actually displayed "auction ended" for an auction that was still running wtf

[Anonymous No.13875806]

Ok so I won the double penis but it was way too easy that date problem might be serious.

[Anonymous No.13875815]

I like watches on a very consumer and superficial level when I really stop to think about it. I know which movements are generally better than other ones, I do romanticize moving gears on my wrist, and I do like the stories/history of it. But on a pure science level of how they work, I dont spend any time looking into it really, or have read any books on watches.

Yet I spend so much time looking at videos and refreshing this page. I would like to somehow profit off of watches, but I am no artisan, given the chance at becoming a watchmaker I could not tell you one way or the other whether I would be into it or possess the skills needed. So what is there to do? I am no writer, no presenter, and certainly there is no one I can talk about this with IRL. It feels like loving coffee or video games. I cant monetize it personally, I wish the things I enjoyed spending time on were skills. But they are not.

Pic related is the orient mako 3. Sapphire glass, same sizing. Orient ray 3 is fucked tho, 44mm and mineral

[Anonymous No.13875817]

>>13875815
Fuck, forgot to include it

[Anonymous No.13875823]

Fuck I wanted to get the gold double penis as well but it doesn't look like the unblock request is going to make it in time. I wanted to use it as a donor.

[Anonymous No.13875837]

>>13875806
Maybe. But it could also just be that the person who won the last one is now gone, and that was basically an auction between them and you, and everyone else who's interested was a much lower bidder.

>>13875823
Why on Earth did you wait a week to submit an unblock request?

[Anonymous No.13875858]

>>13875837
Block is removed! game on.

[Anonymous No.13875871]

>>13875858
Zen market seriously need to work on their stupid fucking site. I have a notification that my bid was accepted but the gold double dick auction ended at a much lower price. I lost it somehow. Gay/10 would not use again.

[Anonymous No.13875873]

>>13875751
they are just very aesthetically pleasing

[Anonymous No.13875875]

>>13875873
Don't you find a MONTH indicator kind of insulting? What moron doesn't know what month it is?

[Anonymous No.13875878]

>>13875875
why would a calendar not have the month in it
a pure chronograph is also very nice looking (and much cheaper) if you dont want those other functions

[Anonymous No.13875882]

Good morning wt

[Anonymous No.13875897]

>>13874187
What the fuck is that thing?

[Anonymous No.13875950]

Why are grail watches like rolex and patek so underwhelming irl? 99% of what you're paying for is sheep consumerism

[Anonymous No.13875962]

don't you guys who own expensive watches fear you could get robbed on the street for them?
I wouldn't wear a 5000$ watch that casually

[Anonymous No.13875980]

>>13875716
Not really in Japan. I’m flipping that one but also ordered this to keep.

[Anonymous No.13876009]

>>13875950
Rolex is not a grail watch and most peoples grails offer the best of their particular interest and thus cannot be underwhelming. If you like simple solid designs and perfect finishing a dufour would not be underwhelming. If you are incredibly interested in engineering and complications a complex patek or als would not be underwhelming. I am honestly baffled by your statement.

[Anonymous No.13876012]

>>13875882
clean that watchband out you filthy hapa fuck

[Anonymous No.13876015]

>>13876009
>patek
looks like $30 mallshit without the name

[Anonymous No.13876022]

>tfw ywn have a purple submariner
Why even live?

[Anonymous No.13876060]

>>13875962
It helps that I live in an area that I could almost never see myself getting mugged in. No crack addicts, tramps or black people around here.

[Anonymous No.13876123]

>>13876015
Are you actually retarded or are you just pretending?

[Anonymous No.13876186]

>>13876060
hm here we have professional watch stealers that can grab your watch without you even realizing it and gangs that target specific people for this
but it's a mainly white country so you can't really tell them apart

[Anonymous No.13876201]

cop or not?

[Anonymous No.13876202]

>>13876123
>easily impressed idiot

[Anonymous No.13876228]

>>13876201
How big is the dial? Over 38mm it's a no

[Anonymous No.13876231]

>>13876202
hand finished single pusher split seconds vs a chinese chronograph

[Anonymous No.13876233]

>>13876201
>pvd coated
>over 40mm "dress watch"
>that hideous dial
>fake croc strap

what would make this a reasonable question?

[Anonymous No.13876254]

>>13876233
>that hideous dial
Blind motherfucker

[Anonymous No.13876286]

>>13876254
I didn't even know they made people this stuipd

[Anonymous No.13876292]

>>13876254
I didn't even know they made people this stupid

[Anonymous No.13876294]

any way to "quick switch" or have two saved timers? it's very annoying having to adjust the timer everytime you want to switch between 25 and 5 minutes or between two timers, figured g shock would have thought of this is there a way to do it?

GW-M5610-1ER

[Anonymous No.13876306]

>>13875815
I appreciate your introspection, get rid of that hint of defeatism tho.
Sounds like you have the needed level to start trading/refurbishing watches - you don't need to know compression ratios on springs in some Tudor movement to be able to move watches around or to be of use.
Start with one or two items that you can't possibly lose too much on, see where that takes you.
Good luck either way.

[Anonymous No.13876311]

Red pill me on collecting digital watches
What should I get as a starter and what watches would be good grails?

[Anonymous No.13876357]

>>13876311
I don’t know. Whatever is available in the dumpster.

[Anonymous No.13876365]

>>13876311

[Anonymous No.13876418]

>>13876228

[Anonymous No.13876422]

Did the slavs every make any tank/art-deco/rectangular watches?

[Anonymous No.13876424]

>>13876365
gimmick

[Anonymous No.13876425]

>>13875950
That's why you buy Seiko, right

[Anonymous No.13876467]

>>13876294
my dw5600 can't do that, I assume it would be the same for the solar atomic model

[Anonymous No.13876542]

>>13875687
Yeah, an SNE520P seiko
Got a pretty decent discount on it

[Anonymous No.13876595]

>>13876365
Is this your grail?
How rare is this and what did you pay?

[Anonymous No.13876597]

>>13876595
>Is this your grail?
What.

They're not super rare. I saw one sold by another collector and found one by searching eBay for water activated watch. I think I paid about $15.

[Anonymous No.13876601]

Opinion on this?

I'm poor and can't buy the Wired Seiko version.

[Anonymous No.13876607]

>>13875687

Yo

[Anonymous No.13876637]

>>13876601
Everyone who has that seems to like it, can't be that bad.

[Anonymous No.13876645]

>>13876601
it's shit, and I'm someone who owns several cheap casio digital watches
the bracelet is cheap metal which is kind of ok but the case is ugly painted plastic, not even resin, it really looks like plastic and the glass is shitty plastic that gets scratched by looking at it
at least the other casio "metal" digitals have a resin case that looks like metal

[Anonymous No.13876647]

>>13876202
>pleb taste
Not even the one you're argueing with.

Disqualifying patek also directly shows your lack of knowledge and proves your dilettantism

[Anonymous No.13876648]

>>13876645

Any recommendations?

[Anonymous No.13876651]

>>13876645
Show us what watches you have.

[Anonymous No.13876654]

>>13876601
The green map version is best.

[Anonymous No.13876664]

>>13876651
I have a f91w, a w86, a a159wge and the "casio royale"

[Anonymous No.13876672]

Is buying a "fulfilled by Amazon" Seiko from Amazon for 25 bucks cheaper worth it versus buying from Long Island Watch? I'd like to avoid QC issues on pic related but 25 bucks is a decent amount.

[Anonymous No.13876683]

>>13876648
the seiko wired agam400 models are very similar to the agam701 but cost around 200 euros

[Anonymous No.13876711]

>>13876672
you get what you pay for. everything on amazon is low QC stuff you wouldnt buy if you saw in person

[Anonymous No.13876718]

>>13876664
Post a picture with a timestamp

[Anonymous No.13876720]

>>13876718
is it so hard to believe someone owns 50 euro worth of shitty watches

[Anonymous No.13876721]

My humble Seiko collection...

[Anonymous No.13876722]

>>13876186
What country? EE?

[Anonymous No.13876745]

>>13876722
not him but I heard of things like that here in italy, mostly in tourist areas or crowded conventions, someone talks to you to distract you and the other bumps into you and grabs your watch
I also remember of some famous footballers getting robbed at gunpoint in the city traffic but that's some naples shit

[Anonymous No.13876761]

>>13876720
Why would he buy those watches only to mock them here?
Why would he buy that many if he doesn't like them?

[Anonymous No.13876764]

>>13876761
I only mocked the casio royale, I actually like the others
I got memed by kojima on that one

[Anonymous No.13876776]

>>13876764
Okay, not getting the royale myself.
What do you think of the f-84w?

[Anonymous No.13876809]

>>13876647
Why's it called the Royal Oak if the design has nothing to do with trees and is more akin to a porthole or steam valve?

[Anonymous No.13876812]

>>13876776
it's nice if you're not paying much for it
if you like that style there are some variations of the f91 with the f91wm
I have pic related and I can say it's made of better plastic than those models

[Anonymous No.13876823]

>f91w selling for 3 € on amazon
should I stash them for the future?

[Anonymous No.13876824]

>>13876823
Highly likely those are fakes.

[Anonymous No.13876829]

>>13876745
I’ve things about Italy too, including that Naples robbery. Italians are crazy about their watches.

[Anonymous No.13876833]

>>13876711
t. Marc from LongIslandWatch.com

In all seriousness, good to know, thanks. Do you know if Marc negotiates on price if I brought this up?

[Anonymous No.13876842]

>>13876833
He's a jew anon

[Anonymous No.13876852]

>>13876842
God fucking damnit. Is Jomashop as legit? It has the amazon price. Others? I'm US based.

[Anonymous No.13876859]

>>13876812
I'll look into those, thanks anon :)

[Anonymous No.13876887]

>>13872468
good seikos around the $100-200 price range that will look decent on a lanky guy? My skin is fairly tanned so gold or silver can work but I'd prefer something without big metal brackets

[Anonymous No.13876910]

>>13876852
jomashop and authenticwatches are good.
i've used both numerous times and never had any issues.

[Anonymous No.13876930]

>>13872493
that bambino with the strap works really really well. Just what the open heart version needed.

[Anonymous No.13876934]

>>13872840
why the fuck would I have it in Japanese?

[Anonymous No.13876943]

>>13876910
Great! I swear I heard something negative about jomashop a while ago and it stuck with me but they’re apparently legit, nice.

[Anonymous No.13876953]

>>13872840
how does this thing wear? it's a big case but the lugs are quite short, what do you think is the smallest sized wrist you could wear it with?

[Anonymous No.13876957]

>>13876930
Esteem, not bambino. The new open heart bambinos are cool though

[Anonymous No.13876962]

>>13876957
ahh. How much bigger are they?

[Anonymous No.13876992]

>>13876962
I think 41, definitely too big for a traditional dress watch which is why I don't treat it like one.

[Anonymous No.13876997]

>>13875962
Most people who wear $5k watches don't traverse bad areas. I bet more people get robbed for flashy cheap shit like Invictas than Omegas.

>>13876745
Good reason to only wear watches with clasps

[Anonymous No.13877022]

>>13876997
Or if your going to the hood just wear your terrorist and put your Rolex back on after you get your weed.

[Anonymous No.13877027]

>>13877022
First time I ever bought coke the dealer let me try on his Datejust. Granted, I had met him before but that was when I first realized just how hard he was balling.

[Anonymous No.13877029]

>>13875725
Cute eggplant

[Anonymous No.13877101]

>>13876647
>>13876009
He has a point, rolex is indeed a grail watch and you contrarian faggots got BTFO by that fag
>le anti rolex contrarians

[Anonymous No.13877128]

>>13877101
Grail implies unobtainable.
Even for most a Rolex is obtainable with a bit of effort. And if it isn't it's setting the bar low for your unobtainable dream.

[Anonymous No.13877135]

Oh dont mind me, just the most perfect affordable dive watch there is

>Sapphire
>SS
>6R15 that wont shit itself after 5 years like swiss
>nice seconds hand
>looks sick af

[Anonymous No.13877140]

>>13877135
What’s wrong with your skin

[Anonymous No.13877144]

>>13877135
Is that the 061? its nice but it's a bulky boi!

[Anonymous No.13877146]

>>13877144
Unironically saying boi. Cringe.

[Anonymous No.13877151]

>>13877146
>unironically saying unironically
>unicronically saying cringe
lmaoing at your life xDDD

[Anonymous No.13877161]

>>13877140
google pic

[Anonymous No.13877166]

>>13873191
I've got an Astron chronograph and I absolutely love it. It's quite large though so if you aren't into big watches you might not like it.

[Anonymous No.13877168]

>>13877151
Not that guy, but you are cringe, and frankly I don't want you here

[Anonymous No.13877176]

>>13874187
Awesome. No you didn't, I'd rather have this than the retarded "le must have" moonwatch any day

>>13875342
>>13877135
>>13872840
>>13873691
Sup niggas. LOVE this watch. Extremely comfortable. Day switches to japanese sometimes, it did tonight and I don't know why.

[Anonymous No.13877198]

flooded out my Patek with baguettes

[Anonymous No.13877199]

>>13872492
>Hublot box
>All Pateks
This makes me uncomfortable

[Anonymous No.13877203]

HI-BEAT LIFE

[Anonymous No.13877208]

>>13877203
>only 4Hz
Step up m8.

[Anonymous No.13877211]

>>13877208
>4Hz
The 5626 is 8Hz, but yes the Lord Marvel is nice

[Anonymous No.13877213]

>>13877198
N
>>13877199
>Not knowing who Mr. Biver is

[Anonymous No.13877214]

>>13877211
4Hz means the same thing as 28,800vph m8. Two beats per Hz, so 8 beats per second = 4Hz.

[Anonymous No.13877221]

>>13877214
Oh true I'm dumb

[Anonymous No.13877234]

>>13872557
qt pic

[Anonymous No.13877268]

>>13872468

[Anonymous No.13877270]

>>13877135
Very nice fren. I don't have that kind of money but I was thinking of a Samurai for my next diver.

[Anonymous No.13877291]

>>13872493
i like your style, we could be friends

[Anonymous No.13877304]

>>13877270
You have fine wine on your wrist and you want to downgrade to a jar of piss? Fuck that bullshit, misaligned bezel hardlex ass garbage fires. Get a mako USA, or an orient triton, or the new mako 3 that have sapphire. You have a taste of oriental puss smothering your vanilla chocolate skin and you wanna get a onions-ko? We didn't help rebuild japan so we could eventually buy their B tier macy's shit, the watche's nickname is samurai but it looks like a little bitch. Orient only, the epson corporation needs to scratch that other irrelevant brand of theirs.

[Anonymous No.13877307]

>>13877304
*onions-ko
don't know why that corrected to onions

>>13877291
thanks, I love you

[Anonymous No.13877311]

>>13877307
*ONIONS-KO
well onions-ko is probably funnier anyway but I don't know why firefox is doing this to me. Gonna hit post, and it better say S O Y - K O

[Anonymous No.13877316]

>>13877311
AH, guess it's they got sick of people saying onions

[Anonymous No.13877317]

>>13877311
>liking Orient more than Seiko
Embarrassing

[Anonymous No.13877337]

>>13877317
Sarbs are irrelevant at their discontinued price point. The skx is garbage at 200, their divers in general are prone to having QC issues. Even seiko 5s are trash for the money, better off going quartz, or russian, or an orient tristar or citizen. The specs of their watches almost never line up with the price in terms of value.

Cool older pieces, some cool limited editions, great history. All that is good, but nowhere near enough for people to go around acting like they are worth it.

[Anonymous No.13877341]

>>13877304
First of all, I appreciate your praise because I am fond of this watch. To be quite honest family I just want a blue diver to match certain outfits but I don't want 2 versions of the same watch. I wish they made the Mako and Ray more distinct from each other. Actually it doesn't even have to be a diver, but that is the style I lean towards most. Pic related is the only one that has really caught my eye in my price range

[Anonymous No.13877366]

>>13877341
Same price as a samurai, same size, better specs by far

[Anonymous No.13877368]

Any Opinions on the Tissot Visodate from the 2000s?

[Anonymous No.13877369]

>wearing your watch on the left hand
nigga u gay lmao

[Anonymous No.13877398]

>>13877337
What do you recommend then as an alternative to pic related? Automatic 100m WR stainless steel brushed case and bracelet with <12mm thickness and <42mm case diameter preferred. $113 on jomashop.

[Anonymous No.13877412]

>>13877369
Other than wearing it on the righthand wrist being wrong
If you are retard handed I can understand why, it could be annoying on your writing wrist

[Anonymous No.13877435]

>>13877398
If you wanted all of those boxes ticked for cheap, the starking has had a lot of people vouch for it

https://www.amazon.com/STARKING-Automatic-stainlessWatch-Fashion-Waterproof/dp/B07GZLCG1Z/ref=sr_1_3?m=A318YZ4WAVEGF4&s=merchant-items&ie=UTF8&qid=1543375813&sr=1-3

The bracelet is apparently good. I've contemplated getting it before because of the value, but I don't need it. You'll also get sapphire and a high beat movement. China has been ramping it up.

If you were reaaaallly going to spend 113 on a seiko 5 though I'd personally say to punch up $17 for a mako or ray. Or honestly just get some variation of the amphibia, and get a milanese/shark mesh strap too and still be under 110 if you want all steel. Or get 5 natos instead.

And if you wanted to sacrifice a little water resistance and go down to 50m then there are a bunch of different dial options for this.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Citizen-Automatic-50m-Elegant-Mens-Watch-NH8350-83L/232769587192?hash=item36322607f8:rk:4:pf:0

[Anonymous No.13877436]

Apple Watch Series 4 in stainless steel.

[Anonymous No.13877443]

>>13877208
> Only 5Hz

[Anonymous No.13877450]

>>13877443
Here, 720Hz then :^)

[Anonymous No.13877462]

>>13877450
> Not 1000Hz

[Anonymous No.13877469]

>>13877462
That's just cheating if it's not for the main timekeeping hands. Still pretty damn neat though.

[Anonymous No.13877532]

Is this thing worth the $200? Should I get the one with the metal band?

[Anonymous No.13877535]

>>13877435
>spending 113 on a Seiko 5
Well when you put it that way, fuck. Anyway, thank you for the suggestions. I'd get the Starking or Citizen for only a dressy setting. I've thought a lot about the Ray 2 but it just doesn't click with me. The Mako USA 2 is interesting though but last I checked it was close to 200+. The amphibia doesn't fit the style I'm looking for right now but I like them for what they are. I'll give the Mako USA 2 a closer look, as long as it fits under the cuff (a preference I forgot to mention!) Basically I'm trying to be a one watch guy (minus a G shock or other digital beater)

[Anonymous No.13877557]

>>13877435
To add, I seriously thought of getting the Orient Defender I have to admit. But the poor lume and the lack of Seiko-level horological significance turned me off.

[Anonymous No.13877570]

>>13877435
What would you suggest as an alternative to a SARB033, if it isn't worth it at current prices?

[Anonymous No.13877617]

>>13877570
A fuckton of microbrands with watches 3-500.
maen
borealis
brew (ok these probably aren't amazing value propositions but they look neat to me)
lorier
phoibos
emgwatches
dagaz
Tisell

Those are mainly divers, but I like divers so those are the ones I know. But you could hate all of those, there are a million other ones, just do research and you can get something that is very specific to your taste.

If you don't want a microbrand then I'd say a hamilton, not a fan tissots are still good for the $, or lower end fredrique constant, certina too, basically just lower end swiss. Laco's cheapest pilot is around 400. Also, little bit different type of watch since it's just dress and you aren't gonna beat on it, but orient star classics are cheap as fuck right now, I've seen them as low as 250 new. Orient stars in general haven't had their prices fucked, if you can still find a retrograde around 350-400 that isnt bad either.

[Anonymous No.13877643]

Which one is better/ more adaptable

[Anonymous No.13877649]

>>13877643

[Anonymous No.13877651]

>>13877649
explorer, hands down

[Anonymous No.13877674]

>>13877617
Thanks, I was speaking of something not only specced like the SARB, but also similar size and style. I did find a similar orient star, but I don't see how it would be better.

I asked because I'm stuck between getting a SARB033 or a Certina Ds-2 chronograph, which are both very different I know.

[Anonymous No.13877677]

>>13877643
Looks better: easily the JLC
More adaptable: definitely the Explorer

If you could only get one, I'd say get the Explorer. Wearing a steel sports watch with a suit is mehhh, but it's fine for office/casual wear.

Plus, more people will know what a Rolex is, if you're into that sort of thing.

[DoñaPepa !!K2U/aBrgGFE No.13877678]

Might as well make this the watch thread since this reached the bump limit, no point in faggots fighting over wanting to be the OP
>>13877629

[Anonymous No.13877682]

>>13877643
>>13877649
Explorer is the most versatile and you can wear it with anything. The JLC is the better watch.

[Anonymous No.13877684]

>>13877678
Idiot, we can't use that thread.

[Anonymous No.13877689]

>>13877674
if you go with the sarb you'll feel like a sucker paying the extra $100 for it being dscontinued. Not to mention, yeah it's a versatile piece for everyday, and the finishing is great and all that. But the bottom line that it's still just a basic black watch with indices, there will be be more of those in the future.

[DoñaPepa !!K2U/aBrgGFE No.13877692]

>>13877684
Of course you can, no one gives a fuck about the links, discord or any of that garbage. Bunch of faggots fighting to be the first to post their shitty collections as the first post

[Anonymous No.13877704]

New thread:

>>13877703
>>13877703
>>13877703

[Anonymous No.13877803]

>>13877689
>But the bottom line that it's still just a basic black watch with indices, there will be be more of those in the future.
Yeah I kinda feel the same way, but I always kinda liked it (only now that I'm downsizing do i feel I have a spot for it) and I somewhat want to see what people mean when they say how much of a bargain it is. Based off what I've read it seems like it is still worthy of it's current price but that's not really the issue, I feel like for a little bit more i might be able to get something a bit nicer and perhaps more interesting.

Yeah i guess I'll hold off on it, in the end it's a *relatively* plain watch and I'll probably find something I like as much or more soon enough.

[Anonymous No.13878453]

>>13877366
>that cigarette company logo
>that logo placement
>that power reserve placement
I like the stripe on the windy knob though

[Anonymous No.13878457]

>>13877643
This.
It's fucking stunning and you get way more watch for the buck than the Rolex.
That moon phase JLC is my go to purchase when I actually have a reason to wear it.
>work remote
>don't really have super expensive tastes
I'd feel dumb just wearing it around you know.

[Anonymous No.13878829]

>>13876809
Get the fuck out.