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>post thinspo
>stay hidratted
>no bully pls


Low Calorie Food & Drinks List:

Fasting Resources:

Feel free to post questions and requests, report about your progress, and ask for support.

To get helpful replies make sure to post:
>current stats: sex, age, height, weight
>tdee and your deficit
>highest and lowest weight
>goal weight
>preferred method of losing weight
>aesthetic you are going for

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I was maintaining for a while but then had stomach problems and was put on omeprazol. I have since gained 5-lbs and I think the ravaging hunger from that is what is going on. I didn't put two and two together until just yesterday. I'm stopping it since it doesn't help much and hopefully that'll calm the hunger. It's not a listed side effect but when I goo "omeprazol hunger" it comes up big time. I feel so stupid.

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>date modified: 2015
fugg been coming here for four years...

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>> No.13673058

How to keep the chills away? People are already calling me anorectic, so I can't show how I'm freezing or I'll get caught. It's too early for a sweater, and tea is just a momentary relief.

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When I was restricting a lot I just had to wear warmer clothing. I'm a male so I could wear long sleeve undershirts and a long sleeve shirt which helped a lot.

Exercise helps. Go walk up and down the stairs a few times,

Seems like the chills is from low blood pressure or something.

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thinsluts should be exterminated

where all the fit girls at?

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>> No.13673120

how many calories does skateboarding burn?

im usually sore for 3 days after i skate for about 5 hours but i just picked it back up after a 3 year break. i can still do basic flat ground tricks and transition stuff

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Someone please bully this shit thread.

>> No.13673125

can i ask why people want to be thin here?
ive been skinny my hole life (im naturally skinny) and its nothing special
id rather be a bit more heavier, more on the lean side but im too lazy to gain weight

>> No.13673131

clothes hang off you better, for one
But it looks nice. its a matter of personal taste

>> No.13673140

So far I’ve lost 30 pounds and I feel amazing, can’t wait to be skinny again
Also does chewing gum (sugar free of course) help anyone? I’m trying it to deal with my cravings while on campus but idk if it helps or not.

>> No.13673146

Great job anon! I never found gum to be that helpful personally, but give it a shot. I find drinking lots of water to be more useful.

>> No.13673150

been fat all my life, i just recently was looking through old photos from when i was a teen and it’s unreal how oblivious i was to how big i was

we’re about the same height, but i was 255 last summer, and i’ve cut down to 180. this is the lightest i’ve ever been in my adult life (24) and i feel great, but i want to get to an actually healthy bmi, another 15 pounds or so

so basically 1) i looked like shit, 2) i look less like shit, and 3) i want to look almost good, so i need to lose a bit more weight

>> No.13673159

It helps because you cant put anything in your mouth, but your body when chewing gets ready for digesting so It can actually make you more hungry especially when doing IF so it depends I guess

>> No.13673168

how tall r u?

>> No.13673171

when i got fatter i felt so gross. my underwear was always getting stuck in my ass, my thighs rubbed together, my clothes stop fitting. it was hell. now im back to my normal weight and want to go thinner for aesthetic purposes, i love the look of skinny legs. although my journey to weight-loss sometimes has me feeling just as miserable as i do when i binged while fatter. i need to learn better habits soon.

also fat people are comically gross, i don't respect them. being skinny will make me feel better than people. a lot of people are fat in america

>> No.13673174

congrats man
yeah i understand losing weight cus your fat/wanna be /fit/
but i'm trying understand the people who want to be really skinny
i guess a lot of people on these threads tend to by heavy people who are on their way to achieve a better body for themselves?

>> No.13673189

I'm just a smol bean UwU

>> No.13673225

This is such a frustrating image holy shit. These people are so dilusional.

>> No.13673242

desu even i have thought about getting rail thin—it’s appealing, it’s one way to show you have complete control over your body
also expensive clothes will always look better if you’re thin

>> No.13673373

That’s sad. How is it even possible to have such a poor understanding of what’s normal and healthy? calling this impressively fit girl anorexic is fucking absurd.

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>> No.13673380

>tfw met a cute 4'11" thinspo girl and completely spilled my spaghetti with her

FUCK. I never had a thing for tiny petite girls until I met her, and now I only want to date girls like this. She's a few years away from 30 but still so fucking cute.

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I think it's a matter of personal taste. As previous anons said, clothes feel and look better, and you feel you have more control over your body, but also, I can't seem to stop losing weight. If I eat over my calorie deficit, I get depressed and just feel like killing myself. I got used to everyday-life with this, and I don't feel like going back, even if it fucks me up.
Maybe I also like looking like I feel though, like a weak worthless piece of shit ; even if I feel fat while looking myself at the mirror, I still feel happy when I feel the bones while having my hands in my bottom's pockets.

>> No.13673411

/thinspo/ discord where

>> No.13673416
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>only girl pics
Ugh, remember when these threads were about comfy bros wanting to have a cool aesthetic and not some fucking slit convention?
Women ruin everything.

>> No.13673466

.. girls can't wear long sleeves?

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cause I'm really into size difference. I want a big heavy built guy who is really into someone small like me. Also clothes look better imo.

It's something to do, it's nice to have a goal you work for.

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a n g e r

>> No.13673485

Sweetens in the gum are beyond terrible for the body and has time and time again been HEAVILY linked to all sorts of cancers.

But if you're not afraid of dying and like having something sweet in your mouth then by all means.

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>> No.13673547

The /fph/ thread on /fit/ is my thinspo desu.

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>>current stats: sex, age, height, weight
f(ish); 19; 5'11"; 169
>>tdee and your deficit
2300 (16100/wk); 700 (4900/wk)
>>highest and lowest weight
180; 134
>>goal weight
140 (UGW of 129)
>>preferred method of losing weight
Intermittent fasting (and bingeing)
>>aesthetic you are going for
pic related

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wow sorry about the pic for ants here is another

>> No.13673603

T-shirt while working.

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discord's for namefagging if you really have to do it
or literally any pro ana forum

>> No.13673606

Heil Pekka

>> No.13673696

I just want a 30” waistline more than anything

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someone know the name of this model.? i've seen pics of her around here.

>> No.13673729

Where's the thin guys for the girls to look at?

>> No.13673738

are u skinny yet?

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>> No.13673757

please see a doctor anon. you sound like you have actual anorexia, whereas most people in these threads just want to be only slightly underweight or at a low healthy weight

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>Have been failing for weeks every day dieting, binging non stop
>Today had around 500cal
Im finally doing it boys :D

>> No.13673903

>Obese all my life
>Made fun of by every type of people
>Refused to leave house cuz of shame of my apperance
>Lose some weight and go massively up in rating, get girls, now got a gf
>Still not skinny and i cant wait for the first day of my life where i wont see man boobs through my shirt

>> No.13673996

Previous fat fuck here.
Used to weigh around 260+ dunno when I weighed that much I didn't own a scale.

I'm at 160 around 5-6% body fat. Feels good to look in the mirror now.

>> No.13674068

google image search tells me she’s Elsa Hosk

>> No.13674202

anyone else’s sense of smell become much more sensitive?
i feel like i can smell everything so much, other people’s foods just smell like shit constantly
some girl are a salad with 1000 island dressing and i almost gagged
what is the discord

>> No.13674208

during fasting all my senses get really intense, i love it
you should try rubbing water between your fingers, i did this for so long once because of how amazing it felt

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God fucking damn i wanna binge so bad im sweating holy fuck i have so much goodie snacks in the kitchen fuck god fuck

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i'll get upset over something and then drive to mcdonalds and get like three double quarter pounders and a large fry and apple pies plus an ice coffee to go. then i drive home and eat that while watching a tv series, then usually some ice cream. then i purge. then last time i drove out again taking my laptop to keep watching the series, this time to burger king and bought just one burger saying it would be my last, then got up and got another in tears, ate that, then absolutely sobbing, bought a last one with the mexican lady behind the counter asking if i was alright. i ate that then got home feeling really sick and purged again throwing a lot of it up. then i made an oven pizza and had beers, are purged one more time near the season finale.

>> No.13674284

My intuituon tells me it's so that the hungry animal would find something to eat, but I could be mistaken.

>> No.13674287

fug I thought accutane would kill my appetite so I wouldn't have to worry about feeling hungry but it didnt and now I'm extra tired and still hungry

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Talk about wasting money. Also you can only purge like 80% of the calories from whatever you've eaten . If even that- depending on how long you wait etc. Pull yourself together anon.

>> No.13674351

working on it. moment of weakness. i know.

>> No.13674357

jesus christ get a grip

>> No.13674361

There there, I'm no better. I want to die thinking of all the money I've thrown at sugarfree gum and zero calorie sodas. Just paying for a sweet disgusting nutritionally pointless nothing that'll prob gib me cancer.

We gon make it tho. Believe in u.

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too close to home

>> No.13674366

Get help anon.
You’re clearly hurting yourself both physically and mentally.

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I'm working on it. Currently seeing a doctor. I feel kind of safe here, so I frequent these threads a lot. It's a tiny cool little social window.

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hey thank u to the thinspo and to the guy who told me about omad and intermittent fasting. its been like 7 months and i've gone from a max of 225 to 155 (im 5'9). i feel better than ever and have been working out along with clean eating on top of all of that. love u thinspo. also what exercises do y'all recommend to do to help retract excess skin and such

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what motivated you all to lose weight and become thin (or maybe even got you into ana)? i think it's a really interesting topic to talk about.

>> No.13674408

ugh. gained last week but recovered. fruit game slipping so been living on grains recently. hope it doesn't affect my weight.

sub 62 kg today, aiming for sub 60 by november.

>> No.13674411

burning self hatred

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>> No.13674419

I hate myself.

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>> No.13674451

if I was overweight I got sever dysphoria and didn't feel like I was even living in my own body. so yeah weight loss is the only way

>> No.13674455

I hated myself and ended up with an eating disorder but now I love myself way more than I love you and I want to look good and love myself and be perfect and beautiful

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That was when I used to occasionally lurk so I never got to enjoy it.

>> No.13674498

This guy videos always keep me motivated.

>> No.13674512

You plan on eating more than that right? Because you probably won't be able to sustain that for more than a day or two.

>> No.13674586

I consume nothing but dead babies that have been genetically modified to be a power source. Currently looking thinspo as fuck mane.

Daily bullshit intake has been drastically reduced, however I must admit its not at its optimum 0%.

>> No.13674597

Also, I classify as pure thinspo yes?!!!??? >>13674407

>> No.13674607

depends a lot on the size of anon. And activity level. I'm 5'9 and sit in class all day. I live quite comfortably in the 350-550 range.

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How do you guys track weightloss?

>> No.13674620

am 5'11 115lbs

Don't make yourself skinny if you're a guy. I am seen as a teenager everywhere and I now have health issues due to my weight. Lack of any muscle or fat makes you look sickly. Also I'm super weak to the point that it's embarrassing. My body is incapable of storing enough energy to lift things. I'm on weight gainers, oats, protein + supplements and counting calories to get to where you guys are starting from.

It's better than being a fucking fatass though I hate fatties so much

>> No.13674654

That anon said he had issues with binging. Going that low after being able to curb the binges for one day is pretty stupid.

>> No.13674676

Yeah I guess.. how hard can it really be though. The food doesn't just magically appear in your mouth. You make a conscious choice to put it there. Ya'll need to be more strict with yourselves. That's half the fun of an ED.

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Notice me senpai

>> No.13674720

using an app (mfp) for calories
using a home scale every day at the same time (6-7am)
getting a scan once a quarter at my uni (dxa / bodpod)

>> No.13674726

congratulations! i'm sure you look so much better now

>> No.13674734

thanks friend! i look and feel amazing now, i'll post some pics in a thinspo thread soon!!

>> No.13674741

Literally a 10

>> No.13674768
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You look soft and squishy.

>> No.13674770

Fank u bb what's yr name I'll get my next tattoo of u with a rose next to it xox

>> No.13674777

No need to be sarcastic, I'll stop if you stop. Deal ?

>> No.13674783

I was not being sarcastic. You look soft and squishy, like if I were to poke you with my finger it would sink a cm or two into your body.

>> No.13674789

Like 35% of the posts in these threads are usually about binging. People cut too much too soon and want instant results but can't stick to it. Or they get to their goal weight and can't maintain it.

>> No.13674791

Nah I've got extremeley stretchy skin. If you put it up my ass though you wouldn't have a finger to poke me with.

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You can do it fatties

>> No.13674900

She feels on top of the world because her body is being fuelled by pure animal fat and muscle, once her body runs out of fat to burn it will start cannibalizing itself and health problems will arise.
Veganism is voluntary malnourishment, it’s healthier to be fat than vegan and the best thing is you can eat as much fat and protein as you want everyday and still lose weight, yet vegans choose to starve themselves

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20/M/5'7"/123 lbs
LW: 120 lbs / GW: 120 lbs

>preferred method of losing weight:
coffee, exercise, IF, cigarettes, being sad

After a few days of high restricting I get so voracious and end up binging and hating myself. It's probably because I need to slightly increase my caloric intake but I don't feel like eating most days.

I know this is normal but how can I stop this ?

>> No.13675079

all the things i ate today
(i work at a bakery btw)

2 eggs and a handful of cheese
1 morning star garden patty

2 handful of chips
1 salted carmel cookie
1 mini m&m cookie
piece of oatmeal cookie
piece of blueberry pop tart
piece of blueberry muffin
1 slice bananas foster cake :(
6 buffalo boneless chicken nugs
blue cheese sauce

i tried to purge the slice of cake right after i ate it but i was at work and i put my finger down my throat and forgot there was nasty chemicals on it and freaked out lol i did so bad today holy shit

i think writing it out really makes it resonate how much garbage i eat.

>> No.13675083

dw anon we are here for you <3

>> No.13675197

o look another ketofag, everyone's body is different by lifestyle, genetic dispositions & microbiome, people should be open minded and adopt the diet that best suits their body

>> No.13675245

starve? are you an idiot? most vegans eat a shit ton of calories and still lose weight

keto is a shit diet that is unsustainable in the long run for your health

>> No.13675418

Seconding this

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Where do you thinspo bois find shirts that fit? Everything for me is too oversized or weird fitting.

>> No.13675550

Several things I suppose. I was skinny as a kid so it didn’t feel natural when I got normal/chubby as a teen.
I want to look as good as I can, and I really like thin girls so that’s why it’s thinspo (desu I’m probably going for something closer to fitspo but they’re similar so I’m here). I also can’t stand the feeling of my own fat overlapping, like when your thighs are rubbing together when you walk, bra digging into your back and making a dent, such things.

>> No.13675554

That has nothing to do with being skinnyfat you tard. I’ve stretchy skin as well, it doesn’t make you look like that. Anon is saying you’re lacking muscle and look unfit

>> No.13675610

>most vegans eat a shit ton of calories and still lose weight

just fucking lol

>> No.13675614

Are you just restricting calories?

>> No.13675631

gtfo of the thinspo thread

>> No.13675633

... kids section.. or brands that have models that look straight out of auschwitz

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Reminder that it's easier to change a bad habit by replacing it with a different habit.

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>> No.13675730

So I've lost almost 2 stone since April from not eating a lot. I don't exercise but I've lost quite a lot of weight because I put on a little podge at uni. I'm now 9 stone 6. I don't really have reason to lose weight but I love it and feel amazing. Looking at my self naked I think 'christ you look good' which is great because before I thought I was a pot bellied gremlin. The issue is I'm dropping trouser sizes and I can't afford to buy new ones and I'm sort of thinking what happens when I lose too much weight? Because I have almost completely gone off food. Like I can't be bothered to eat anymore really.

Hopefully I don't put it all back on boozing at uni again - I doubt I will though because I won't be reckless as I was. And boy was I reckless. Probably 3k calories some days. Typically I eat about 1-1.5k

I'm also 5'9

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>> No.13675738

Nice blog bro

>> No.13675794

Someone help end this pain

It's not that people want to be boney so much that they don't want to be fat.

I'm still here bro.

I keep eating one meal a day and it's always take out so the meal is like 700-1000 calories and then I don't eat anything else. I don't think it's working though.


>> No.13675805

My 28" waist pants are falling even with a belt on.

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>192cm, 62kg
>still can't dress despite years of lurking and research
>live in slavic country where every qt likes only bulky gymbros
i'm seriously considering going ottermode, my /fa/ attempts so far have gained me nothing but loss of self-esteem due to girls asking me if i'm gay

>> No.13675816

My tol bro, go for ottermode.

I was like you a year ago but now...I am all muscles but still sit inside and play osrs all the time...

>> No.13675839

Nice blog bro

>> No.13675854

lmao dis retard can't use a belt proper

>> No.13675856

Are you gay?

>> No.13675940

You people are really fucking up your metabolism , but damn also looking really good

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I'd fuck you in the butt. Or the other way around.
You can go be no homo with this guy from fit.

>> No.13676031

guess i don't have much choice anyways
not gay, sorry

>> No.13676038

im a little taller and a couple of kg's heavier, and its easy af to dress for this body shape.
vampire prince mode

>> No.13676044

>vampire prince mode
post inspo please, actually interested

>> No.13676065
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Why d'you guys post such old thinspo when you could just get fresh thinspo every day on tumblr?

>> No.13676068

i dont respect people that eat too much and have apetite
that only means they are bunch of NPC normies with no care in the world
people with anxiety and problems cant eat much, they dont have appetite to live

>> No.13676077

That's not only stupid but wrong, a lot of people stress-eat.

>> No.13676079

then they are pathetic scum subhumans living comfy lives with everything in abundance while people starve and die of hunger fuck you

>> No.13676103

you need to wear all black or at least mostly black, and jewellery.

>> No.13676105
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>5-6% body fat

>> No.13676109

i'm guessing silver rings a silver necklace?
Also i like white, white is nice

>> No.13676140

You could also say that if your biggest problem in life is purposely starving yourself you are too comfortable. But that would be stupid, just like your comment.

>> No.13676162

really untrue especially since a lot of poor people are fat nowadays as unhealthy foods are fast and extremely cheap. For example you can buy an 850 calorie meal for $3.79 at McDonalds (fries, soda, and burger) but like a healthy salad costs 10$ and probably won't fill a poor person with lots of kids up. PLus poor people don't live where there's healthy food usually and don't know jack about nutrition

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duvet-wearing thinspo

>> No.13676182

silver and gold rings, i like some of the latest gucci stuff, or the classic chrome hearts stuff.
choker necklace maybe

>> No.13676194

Your argument is predicated on the assumption that materialistic wealth by nature is capable of negating any and ever other problem and hardship people might face in life. Which is about as stupid as you can fucking get

>> No.13676201

I'm finally gonna get back on track after 6 months and I'm gonna lose those final 10kg. Do you believe in me anons?

>> No.13676226

hello thinspo
5’9” male
had a body scan today
in the last 6 months i’ve lost 20lb (204 > 183), my lean mass increased 6lb and my bf% dropped 7 points (30% > 23%)

here’s to the next 20 and thanks for the help

>> No.13676236

Yeah it's more like 16% I'm not a doctor

>> No.13676248


>look at myself in the mirror one day
>realize this can't keep going on
>buy liquid food so I know exactly how many calories I eat daily
>start jogging
>lose almost 20kg this way in few months
>I'm still not where I want to be, losing weight becomes slower and slower
>become desperate and stop eating entirely
>after about 10 days can't do shit, fall asleep at work for the first time in my life
>start eating again
>something in my brain fucks up and I'm constantly hungry, binge eat every day for few weeks, can't stop myself
>gain some kilograms back
>too scared to step on a scale
>stop eating as much over time
>several months later
>still haven't weigh myself out of fear
>for the first time in those months I have kept up the calorie limit for several days

We're gonna make it anon.

>> No.13676285

a choker necklace screams "i'm gay", which is what i'm trying to avoid

>> No.13676306

Yeah after that post i went and binged on 2000 cal, today i havent had the slight bit of hunger and dont feel like eating at all wich is a feel i havent had in many weeks and its the only feel that makes me diet correctly, so im finally back on track

>> No.13676349

I believe in you. If you fail I will hunt you down and kill you

>> No.13676362

How do I stop hunger pangs ? I don't feel like eating but it bothers me and I can't focus

can you just kill me

>> No.13676374

caffeine or just get busy on something. Exercise helps in the moment too, but after you just feel worse

>> No.13676414

i know you should do whatever YOU want but do most women like the thinspo look on men?

>> No.13676419

NO. Women prefer ottermode.

>> No.13676468

3000 cal today

>> No.13676473

it’s ok
it’s not day-to-day but overall

>> No.13676486

im not gonna make it guys. how do i hate food

>> No.13676502
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its not ok, everyday i start my diet i bing, every day is my "cheat day", im gaining weight every single day, im fatter than before i started the diet.

>> No.13676505

ephedrine helps me

>> No.13676513

I think that immersing yourself in some activity really is the only way to beat hunger. Caffeine is nice and all but it's like treating a stab wound with a small bandage. I'm trying to heed my advice as well; trying to lose weight as a chronic procrastinator is literal torture.

>> No.13676532

Lmao what time do you usually binge? Try to do OMAD and eat one big meal around 18.00-20.00

>> No.13676539

I binge before or after dinner wich is fucking retard

>> No.13676603

yeah dude i think that OMAD is for you then. WHen you eat a huge meal in the evening you wouldn't start to get hungry until next day afternoon or something. you'd still have to endure those hours till dinner though. give it a try.

>> No.13676737

2nd day of Keto+OMAD. Feeling kinda lethargic, but I guess that's part of the transition, going to lay in bed and listen to some music now. I love this clear-head feeling despite the lack of energy.

>> No.13676834

where do you fags find dress shirts that fit right? I'm going to try these MTM sites.

>> No.13676842

I dont buy clothes yet, im fat

>> No.13676843

You'd look a lot cuter in briefs or trunks

>> No.13676912

4th day in a row having fast food. ama

>> No.13676916

What's it like becoming a hamplanet?

>> No.13676930

>tissues and hand lotion on the table


>> No.13676946

Any tips to stop binging?
I'm trying to gather some willpower but holy shit, it's like something suddenly clicks in my head and I binge (hard)

>> No.13676955
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-1000 kcal again. Iron will and discipline.

>> No.13676991

>current stats: sex, age, height, weight
M, 22, 5'4", 145lbs
>tdee and your deficit
I think it's like 1900, so I just try to eat less than that, varies from day to day
>highest weight
I got to 150 recently which really made me realize I was fat so I've been cutting back ever since.
>goal weight
probably like 120
>preferred method of losing weight
not eating
>aesthetic you are going for
idk I just wanna be thin. I've always been scared of being skinny since I'm so short but now I think I just wanna embrace the smol life.

>> No.13677072
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Is my gf /thinspo/?

>> No.13677085

All that leg fat makes me want to puke.

>> No.13677102

feels bad
just started a second job and I'm just not used to it

grab some greasy shit in between jobs and get home really tired

>> No.13677110

Reminder that proper sleep and hydration helps support your weightloss

>> No.13677111

shes definitely /bonerspo/

>> No.13677167

but /thinspo/ has always been by far the most female dominated part of /fa/

>> No.13677171

which blogs do you visit?

>> No.13677173
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I used mfp and I hate it. They own your personal data, and irc there was even a leak of accounts. The world would be a better place with an onest and opensource version of it (and mostly, of its ridiculously huge database of food).
My favourite app to record weight measurements is Libra. If you are a freaking data analyst you can also export the database and run R or your shit over it (if you expect to find anything in your small sample).
>collect data (at least few months) in a raw file, food kcal using mfp or better reading the labels, weight as in the FAQ, write a general comment and send us your data so that 4chan can have its own /fa/study.paper
>inb4 not happening

>> No.13677175

thinspo is for people who want to look cool, not people who are afraid of food. take your mental illness elsewhere you anorexic freak.

>> No.13677180

Samsung Health for cico. I don't have a scale i could use, so I just use the 0.5 kg a week pace with a guess.

>> No.13677184

Fuck off, fatty. I don't need a subhuman to tell me what I can say here.

>> No.13677185

What about loose skin? Was it a big problem for you? I'm asking because I went from 285ish to 217, still need to go down to about 190lbs to make weight for a bjj competition. Bf% wise it will be around 8%, according to online calculators. I'm worried my man boobs won't go away. Its too early to panic yet, I think, but there's definitely more sagginess than I'm comfortable with.

>> No.13677203

I would like to ejaculate inside her vagina, so there's that.

>> No.13677290

Okay, I binged again. Should I just stop trying to do OMAD and just eat lunch and dinner? I've been trying to just eat dinner but I always binge eat on the second day, it's like a fucking cycle.

>> No.13677303

yeah, probably right, but it is possible to not care. People should be able to tell by your attitude whether you are gay

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No, but she is hot so good for you

>> No.13677316

Ah, whatever, i'm trying again, but I've noticed that I always binge after I eat my meal, so I'm going to fast for 2 days, maybe even 3, then I'll start my actual diet. I need to get some self-control, urgently.

>> No.13677415

i just have been eating like 200 calories a day and i've lost 11 pounds in like a week thanks so much /fit/ i feel a lot better

>> No.13677457

such is life today

>> No.13677460

Careful not to gain it all back. It happens a lot when you high restrict :(

>> No.13677529

I have a wedding this saturday and Ive been dieting under 1100 cal/day for 2 weeks to have a better fit on my suit and it has worked so far but tonight my family bought and ate a bunch of fried food while I was having a tiny bit of grilled chicken breast.
Im starving, /thinspo/ please motivate me to saty strong and not give in.

>> No.13677570

I sure as fuck don't.
She's fat

>> No.13677581

Lol fucking newfags

>> No.13677583

Attractive but not thinspo
More like thigg desu

>> No.13677592

cut hole for button

>> No.13677619

>Maybe I also like looking like I feel though, like a weak worthless piece of shit
I can relate to this. It feels good in a way, like that's how I was always supposed to be.

>> No.13677816

Google sheets

>> No.13677907

Are you retarded?

>> No.13678099

That's a myth. I have a bmi of 16.7 and I binge on close to 10k cals every other day. If I was retaining 20% of my binges, I would be gaining.

>> No.13678101

A lot of women like the thinspo look but don't say anything. Why do you think housewives were so in love with Bieber when he first came out on the scene? Women love youthfulness, and thinness emulates that.

>> No.13678105

To maintain or to keep losing? T. 190 cm and 65 kg male

>> No.13678153

Don't go any less, maintain.
t. 191cm @ 62.5kg

>> No.13678157
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I am trying to think of what goal weight I should shoot for. 21, M, 5'9" (180cm), and ~161lb (73kg). Notable lower-body mass/muscular base (thighs, glutes).

Any suggestions? I swim, and would like to maintain some muscular development and strength rather than just go full sticc-mode. Think /cm/ + thicker lower body.

>> No.13678160


>> No.13678173

Why? Has being thin caused you problems?

>> No.13678183

Not necessarily, but I would think going below 60 at our height would be a negative. I'm in fact trying to put on mass (in the right places of course)

>> No.13678218

I see. Good luck with gaining!

>> No.13678220

Does anyone else try to go 10 pounds under their "true" goal so you don't disappoint yourself if you gain a little weight.

>> No.13678248

>gain a little

>> No.13678252

If you want to maintain muscle mass a modest caloric deficit (500-1000) and a high protein diet is what you need. Starving yourself like half of the ugly fucks in this thread will leave you with a disgusting soft body. It's best to stay on the lower end and be patient in your case.

>> No.13678255

t. boney butt titlet who can't sit for more than 5 minutes without experiencing spinal pain

>> No.13678259

I'm glad I don't have tits. I'm not a girl.

>> No.13678263

I need pictures of fat to skinny asian male transformations for motivation please.

>> No.13678271

I am aware of how to effectively lose, gain, and maintain body mass. /fit/ is my original home board. I just want some perspectives on what a good goal weight should be for me. My adipose fat percentage is higher than I would like, so I intend to decrease it. If I ask /fit/, they will likely suggest weight values that don't coincide with my current fitness goals, as I no longer lift.

>> No.13678295

i read somewhere that when you get really fat you ruin your body's ability to feel full on the same amount of food as other people. something about hunger signals getting messed up from overeating, that's probably why you're struggling. good luck anon

>> No.13678417
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Pic related is bonespo, if theres something that girl is not it's that.
You dont need to be anorexic to have eyes

>> No.13678461

He said boner, not bone

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I know right? It feels like in control. I'm also aware of the danger of my goals and everything, but I'm still on my way to get them, and I don't binge, I don't purge either, I count my calories and walk a lot, and overall, I've managed to accept it all a little bit, and it's peaceful, like I'm in my comfort zone, even though it's not good for me.

>> No.13678720

Wellshit I’ll go die in a corner now.

>> No.13678798


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WEW, been eating at a deficit and i gained 4lbs in one day.

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>> No.13678815

I said boner
Anorexia can lead to eye damage or blindness
consider getting help

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>> No.13678885


Just layer up, without showing it. Like tight tanktops tucked in, or undershirts with low collars in nude/neutral colors so they don't show through. Also tights/stockings under pants are a big help, during the winter my go-to is always fleece tights under skinny jeans.

>> No.13678887
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>Maybe I also like looking like I feel though, like a weak worthless piece of shit
That's definitely part of it for me too.

>> No.13678893


>> No.13678917

heatech tights under jeans or really in any case and thermal tanks. Avoid polyester such as drifit etc

>> No.13678940

How do I avoid VBL when I'm wearing skinny pants, especially with my white jeans?

>> No.13678958


I've been skinny most my life, but unfortunately a very bad depression has led me to binging and gaining weight. I'm technically at a healthy weight, and alot of people still consider me small, but I just fucking hate the way I look at this point(I'm 5' 2" and 108lbs, I used to be 95lbs at my lowest). I've always had self esteem issues, but the one thing I'd always had been confident in was how I looked. But now I cant wear the clothes that I love, and the clothes I do fit into look awful.

On top of that, people treat me very different than when I was skinny. I used to get complimented all the time, like people telling me I was cute and would ask me if I was a model, people were extremely nice to me and some people we're actually jealous (like they'd say it/would be super obvious about it or people would actively point out when others were acting like it if I didn't notice) but now nobody says anything. Like im almost completely ignored and it feels awful. I think back to when I'd say dumb stuff like " I wish I could gain weight!" Or "I wish I had boobs" and it makes me so angry, if I only knew how good I had it I wouldn't have let it get this bad.

I just want to get back to where I was and feel confident again.

>> No.13679035

Sitting hurts my butt.

>> No.13679048

In what world isn't that skinny?

>> No.13679055

A camp in Auschwitz

>> No.13679206

Don't mind me niggas, just to look at some cute twinks

>> No.13679213

Please respond

>> No.13679260

ever since my scale broke a few weeks ago i feel like squidward when he ate all those hamburgers even though it’s obviously not the case because of how loose my clothes have gotten

>> No.13679285
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Accidentally -900 kcal for today again.

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>Rode my bike for 2.5 hours when fasted
>Burnt 1kcal
>Only ate 380 calories today

>> No.13679430
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Please go tell /fit/ this, but let me go get some popcorn first

>implying I'd ever post myself on chan
kek thx

I'd pick you up and carry you like a basket of fluffy towels I'm about to throw in the lake.

>People should be able to tell by your attitude whether you are gay

Grab yourself a lane king comfort rocking recliner for MAXX COMFY.

post glutes

>> No.13679648 [DELETED] 

>tfw you meet a friendly anorexic girl in your linear algebra class but her profile unironically sends shivers down your spine
I honestly can't remember the last time saw someone this underweight in person, not even my dad was this skinny when the cancer killed him.

>> No.13679675

>I honestly can't remember the last time saw someone this underweight in person, not even my dad was this skinny when the cancer killed him.
Math consumes all the fat in your body. She doesn't even need to be anorexic.

>> No.13679734

holy fuck w2c dick like that

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>> No.13679856

I'm 18, male to female tranny, turning 19 soon. 4 months hrt, 5'9", 142 lbs. Should I gain or lose weight? I might give pics on discord, but I don't want them here or saved anywhere, so I'm a little sketch about posting pics.

>> No.13679866

post pics

>> No.13679894

Just don't get as skinny as the girls posted in this thread. Having too little fat is bad for trannies 'cause it really shows off bone structure, which is usually not something you want if you care about passing and started HRT after or late into puberty. Unless you were blessed with a super feminine bone structure as a male. Then, do whatever. But chances are you weren't.

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i probably shouldnt but i dont care im sad and want to die
im not

>> No.13679948

bitch tits

>> No.13679967

uh yeah ive been taking estrogen for 4 months lol

>> No.13680021
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You are cute! I have heard some accounts of people saying to lose weight then gain slowly after you've been on hormones a long while and you will fill out into a more womanly shape. Obviously everyone on this thread will prefer the thin aesthetic, though.

>> No.13680085

Aww thanks, I like thin too but I have man shoulders and no hips soooo

>> No.13680095

torso looks nice and soft, like it
post legs nau

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my torso is too wide from lifting, i used to run xc and track and i started lifting heavy from nov 2017 to jan or feb 2018

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>wear 3 rings daily
>gotten 3 resizings each in the past 6 months

>> No.13680410

i'm too lazy to stand up to get food...

>> No.13680510

fuck all this shit we need a male (male) version and get comfy fuck these bitches smfh I just want to bool it with my bros

>> No.13680518

Good job anon!
Your fingers get smaller just from wearing rings as well, so that might explain part of the the big change.

>> No.13680567

never realised that i was underweight until age 24ish. now i feel horrible that i'm 10lbs heavier. i know that i'm still "skinny" but never had fat i could feel until now, it's really weird

>> No.13680635
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197cm, 63kg

>> No.13680650

That's actually a rather common worry for people who suffer from anorexia. Because of the self esteem issues you described, they feel like they would lose the only thing "special" about them.
I don't have to explain that this is nonsense but sometimes it takes you time to realize what you are good at. And this is a hundred times more valuable than looks.

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>being put on weight gain in recovery and the only thing keeping me from killing myself over it is the happiness restricting and losing weight again will bring me once treatment ends

>> No.13680695

eat more and start going to the gym you beta fag

>> No.13680748
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Anyone got a routine for smaller waist and wider hips?
Or at least what rep range to stay at

>> No.13680944

i wanna know some good exercises for this too.

>> No.13680946


>> No.13681018
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First post:

145 pounds
6' (not sure how many cm, I think 184)

Want to build some chest muscle and go otter mode but apart from that am quite happy.

I eat a ketogenic diet, low carbs, high fats, proteins and lots of veggies, no sugar apart from a tiny bit in coffee. Also low on dairy, bar a few eggs for breakfast on occasions. I've always eaten this way due to having a shit load of allergies to a lot of stuff. Pretty sure I've been this exact BMI since I hit puberty.

I'd like to experiment with going full carnivore, just meat and fats at some point.

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i have a ridiculous amount of thinspo and i usually make sticc threads on r9k but ill crosspost today

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well what are you eating though
are you eating high volume foods/salty food
and when/how do you weigh yourself

>> No.13681193

you'll get back on track anon. i'm the same height as you and i gained way more weight than you (120lbs) and now i'm getting close to 100 lbs and life's good again. my clothes look a lot better and people are starting to notice how tiny i am again. today i went to the dentist and the dentist and her assistant were saying how i'm very skinny and still look like a 15
year old girl at 22. feels good

>> No.13681481

you look wonderful!

>> No.13681564

I appreciate what you're saying anon, and that you took the time to reply! I know my skills/personality/etc are important, but at the same time it was just really jarring going from not ever having to worry about how I looked, or even how people treated me to it suddenly becoming a problem. Like I'm probably niave but I didn't realize just how differently people treated others based off appearance. Looks aren't everything, but it's very disheartening knowing that a lot of people who I considered friendly/nice, we're only doing so because of my weight, and since that's changed they don't feel the need to continue being nice.

I'm actually excited because for the next few weeks I'll be away working. I'll be able to do IF/watch my deficit more accurately without having to worry about eating with my bf. He loves to make a lot of food and go out to eat with drinks/dessert. But thank you anon, hopefully we both meet our goals! And congrats for your progress and compliments!

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A nice -700 kcal for today. Losing weight is too easy.

>> No.13681740
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I just want to be thin NOW !!! Being "average" weight is suffering !!

>> No.13681991

What's a good weight for a 5"6 male?

>> No.13681998

those files names are so fucking cringy dude

>> No.13682000

how do i get family off my back about being too thin? i'm 6'2" 140lbs and keep getting told to eat more by family i'm starting to get really annoyed

>> No.13682004

be an adult and move out

>> No.13682481
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I want to fucking kill myself. Ate 6000kcal today/yesterday. My daily goal is 1000kcal. I should do a six-day fast in order to compensate this, but I'm staying with my family until the 20th. I fucking hate myself and I hate this fiestas patrias conchetumadre.
Please, insult me or whatever, just fuck me up.

>> No.13682583 [DELETED] 

Legit lost 5kg of weight in like 3 days while on keto diet, have been eating a shitton of eggs, bacon, butter etc. Way above my maintenance calories. 190.5/61kg atm and still have a visible layer of stomach fat wtf

>> No.13682658

Holy shit, are you sure you ate that much? Dude how many empanadas did you ate?Anyway, I overate a lot today as well so you're not alone, I didn't even binge on good food, only on ice cream. For fiestas patrias I plan on walking and bike riding a lot so I can maintain or simply not gain, and eat lots of chicken or anticuchos. Meat makes me feel safer than empanadas. And chug lots of water when people aren't watching, 4+ glasses. It'll make you feel full and every little thing you eat will make your stomach hurt. And fill yourself up with salads
Good luck chile fren, I will message you or the other chile fren when I stop feeling like a failure

>> No.13682722

>how to restrict to be thinspo without going retard ed binge mode

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Do girls really like thin dudes mates? At least if they have a cute face?

>> No.13682907




t. between -600 and -1000 kcal a day

>> No.13683184

120lbs I'd say, but it depends on your bone structure and muscle mass, you need very skinny legs to be thinspo at that height

>> No.13683319

since when?

>> No.13683325

A few weeks.

>> No.13683332

how is your motivation so strong? you don't fall on temptation? please teach me

>> No.13683345

I started dieting on September 3.
I start eating at noon and I eat my last meal in a day at around 7pm. So basically, it's IF. I also eat around 1000kcal a day while some calculator said I have to eat 1700kcal to maintain my weight. I can do it guys, right? c:

>> No.13683349

I'm mentally ill, I don't like eating, I'm busy with stuff, I'm resistant to temptations and my sister's birthday party is coming, so I must restrict my calories in order to be allowed to eat the cake and w/e there will be.

>> No.13683355

its really not that hard, only weak people who don't want it enough struggle.
just eat 1 meal a day, and a few snacks

>> No.13683383

3300kcal yesterday, and 2500 the day before. That 10k is what I've accumulated in calories on the week. I need 2200 to keep my weight, but I'm eating 1000 daily to lose more weight. I plan on walking this whole day, and doing jump ropes and all. Thanks for the advice, chilean friend. Hopefully we'll talk someday.

>> No.13683395

I just don't restrict so much. I know it will be easier, healthier and more effective (at least for me) if I'm on -700kcal deficit for a few months than, for example, -1200kcal deficit and giving up after two weeks. I start with small things like not putting sugar in my tea/ coffee, drinking water instead of drinks with lots of sugar, eating some raspberries instead of gummy bears, eating one piece of toast instead of two, one egg instead of two, etc. Drinking water and chewing gum when you're hungry but don't want to eat helps me a lot btw

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>> No.13683435

There's plenty on yt made by ig thots. Look those up

>> No.13683444

But you will always look inferior to those who have a well developed and balanced muscular physique.

>> No.13683452

Bro you've got a good starting base now to put on that muscle. For reference I'm 198 and 95kg. You will look much better with some muscle mass and will pull those chicks you're talking about

>> No.13683471

girls generally want to be with guys that make them feel small and feminine
i like guys that are slightly skinny but not skinnier than me.

>> No.13683477

thanks anon. good luck with everything
can't you tell your bf that youre trying to be healthier and then just not order desserts? also on days when you go to restaurants you can let that be your one meal that day

>> No.13683568

Cancer aside, do diet drinks really make you gain weight?

>> No.13683744

cico..cico..CICO C I C O

>> No.13683777

no, they are literaly water with a bit of salt calorie wise

>> No.13683918

calorie wise yes, but they'll fuck up your gut (which cancer aside may affect your metabolism) and appetite, if you can control yourself go on, but who knows what can happen when you're older

>> No.13683977

Can I lose fat eating OMAD?

>> No.13683992

no, it's impossible

>> No.13683998

Depends how much you eat but yeah, fasting is awesome for fat loss

>> No.13684403


Cutting sugar from my diet, I went to a party last night and only allowed myself one piece of candy. I had planned on drinking liquor but all of the drinks were premixed sweetened drinks. I ate a plate of food but still had to dodge the dishes that had sweet sauces and turned away any soda and cake that was offered to me.

You have to say no once to yourself and again if there's a person offering.

Does that make sense? You have to tell yourself no and just simply not take the food or drink into your hand or mouth.

Drink water and snack of healthy snacks if you find yourself desperately craving something.

>> No.13684712

Yes. OMAD and other forms of intermittent fasting are very effective at bringing about adipose fat loss (with minimal muscle loss in the process). Test and HGH help you maintain or even build more muscle under certain circumstances. Just don't think you don't need to restrict your caloric intake at all. Eat one meal full of satisfying fats and protein, then consume water or plain tea for liquid intake. If you feel sluggish, add sodium, potassium, and optionally magnesium to some water and consume it.

>> No.13684714

>120 lb/57 kg
>4'10"/147 cm

i come from a family of short, petite folks. i've been pretty small my entire life but i guess since it is the standard in my family, i've kinda felt pressure to not deviate from the norm. and even without their influence i feel like being as short as i am extra pounds are exponentially more unflattering.

>> No.13684832

that's pretty fat anon. your bmi is 25.1, which puts you in the medically overweight category. in order to be small you should be sub 100 pounds

>> No.13684880

well no shit. why do you think i'm here?

i've gained a lot of weight since starting college, mostly from bc.

everyone says i look fine when questioning my eating restrictions but amerifats have shifted the window of acceptability so far its ridiculous.

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Is your first impression of me average, skinny or fat? Just at first glance.

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>when you're a casual acquaintance with someone with really bad anorexia but you can't do anything to help because you know it's none of your business and even if it was there's not much you could do
She's so god damn sweet, I don't even know how has the energy to get to class.

>> No.13685040

Average by sane standards, skinny by American standards. You're definitely not fat. You look fine to me.

>> No.13685090

I don't think they are unflattering. The most unflattering thing I have seen in a woman was her personality. You can do whatever you want, but if you become obsessed and unreasonable people are going to hate you even if they try not to. That said, the best way to lose weight I know is eating mostly food based on green vegetable, in a consistent way for a long enough time. And having a pizza or beer with your friends from time to time, you can avoid to eat fast food&co when you are alone.
t. grandpa

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>tfw not in america rn
>tfw euromutt

Thank u tho anon. I'm 67 kg at 174 cm, I wanna get down to 55 kg.Think I'll be skinny by euro-standards then?

>> No.13685097

oh man look at her hands and feet they're so blue lmao boner-killer

>> No.13685121

You know and trust her well enough to pity her?

>> No.13685315

New thread