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13460401 No.13460401 [Reply] [Original]

What shoes go with sleazecore?

Also, sleazy general

>> No.13460430
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Obligatory

>> No.13460463

Boat shoes are the sleaziest of shoes, more tassels the better

>> No.13460489

White loafers is the only answer

>> No.13460652

>>13460430
Thank you, I came into this thread just to find this image. Dunno why i didn't have it saved before.
>>13460463
This

>> No.13460918
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>>13460463
not sperrys docksiders anon, i think you mean loafers

>> No.13460943
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>>13460401
bump

>> No.13460950
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Is pic related or a similiar shoe a no go for casual wear in terms of comfort?
i've already made my decision that my next cop are gonna be more smart shoes like pic related instead of sneakers, but i'm thinking of the plausibility for everyday wear of shoes like these. i've chosen the flat-toe look for personal aesthetic preferences

>> No.13460967

>>13460950
that stitching is hideous

>> No.13460968

https://youtu.be/JQacsqQ2Gdg
Kinda sleazy, wish they focus more on the others in this video.

>> No.13460971
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Crocodile loafers

>> No.13460996

This aesthetic will NEVER work for anyone that browses this board, you just look like a dorky posturing faggot dressed up in clothes that don't suit you.

To be sleazy you have to lead a certain lifestyle that anyone who has ever browsed this board does not have.

>>13460918
This guy looks like a faggot too, as does the OP pic

>> No.13461034
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Fit from this morning,

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>>13460401
>Patent leather
>Perforated uppers
>Cuban heels
>Long pointy toes

>> No.13461063

>>13460967
all the more reason they go with the sleaze aesthetic. bugatti knows what they are doing.

>> No.13461093

>>13461063
Bugatti is THE brand for sleazebags.
Pretty much everything they make is intended for balding dudes with beer guts.

t. salesman

>> No.13461301
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>>13460971
Carmina exotic range is dope. My favourite are lizard skin (pic related).

>> No.13461349
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>>13460401
Found these bitches for $20

>> No.13461353
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is hunter s. thompson sleazecore or is he even beyond it?

>> No.13461359

>>13461353
Course he is, maybe not with that God awful hat though

>> No.13461378
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Pusher series has some very good sleaze drug baron outfits.

>> No.13461392
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Am I sleaze?

>> No.13461395
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>>13461378

>> No.13461396

>>13461392
looks pretty tryhard and extremely uncomfortable

>> No.13461398
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>>13461395

>> No.13461403
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>>13461398

>>13461392
No, you look like you've just hit local Zara.
Also, there's no confidence in your stance, looks uncomfortable, just like >>13461396
said.

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>>13461403

>> No.13461410
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>>13461408

>> No.13461412
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where do Big Dog shirts fall on the sleaze spectrum?

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>>13461410

>> No.13461418

>>13461353
>regularly had gun duels with his neighbours
definitely sleazecore

>> No.13461419

>>13461412
too wholesome. more suburban dad than city fraudsman sleaze

>> No.13461424
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>>13461392
>>13461403
Here's an example - if he would change vans for some leather formal slacks or chucks 70s, it would be perfect sleazy outfit.

>> No.13461430

>>13461418
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHeSC_Ws5Ic
extremely based

>> No.13461463

>>13461392
post punk core

>> No.13461552

>>13461463
I was hoping someone wouldn't say that, I actually hate post punk

>> No.13461556

>>13461392
The other anons who replied are spot-on, I'm just gonna try to add some advice to their comments. The biggest problem with your fit are the pants. Way too tight on you,skinny pants just don't work with sleaze. Another problem is the crop. Cropped pants are very hard to pull with this look. If you insist on them, then they need to be straight fit and very flamboyant as in having a bold colour or pattern such as pinstripes and should be paired with a much tamer top piece than usually seen in sleaze so they become the focal point of the outfit. Also absolutely wear a belt. Either remove the ring from your right hand or move it to your other, tattooed arm to decrease symmetry.

>> No.13461561

>>13461392
needs looser pants and more armhair.

>> No.13461566

>>13461556
Yeah man I actually agree, I don't wear skinny jeans anymore desu because they pull the hairs off my calf's and I've got bald spots on my legs because it's all I used to wear, should grow back though
As for the stance, I don't think it exudes low confidence really I don't get why you guys said that, I'm not going to do a huck and pose like a tit

Thanks for the informative post mate, I'll look for some better fitting pants next time I'm out thrifting

>> No.13461619

>>13461392
>>13461552
>>13461566
you seem like a genuine faggot

>> No.13461628

>>13461034
he hath returned to reap what he hath sown

>> No.13461645

>>13461619
I'm not

>> No.13461649

>>13460401
Snake, alligator skin boots

White dress shoes

Cheap flip flops

Just off the top of my head

>> No.13461881

>>13461645
post pic of those shitty tattoos

>> No.13461901
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>>13460950
No, go with some croc loafers

>> No.13462043
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Gonna have to cop that suit

>> No.13462057
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>>13460971
cool, i like these

>> No.13462282

>>13461414

How good is Pusher 3 compared to the first two?

>> No.13462491
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>>13462282
I think it's better than the first one and equally good as second.
Probably most violent and gore filled of all three, but not for cheap emotional shock value.
Everything makes sense and every disgusting crime has a reason in this movie.

I really like the concept of the plot. Milo, who was drug king of Copenhagen and person feared by previous main characters, is slowly losing his position in crime world to younger mobsters. And he doesn't want to let it be this way obviously.

So we have the big shark from previous movies becoming the smaller fish, easy prey for his younger rivals. And it's really easy to sympathise with Milo in this movie, he's such a good character. Definitely worth watching.

>> No.13462732

>>13461093
Mfw people call my Bugatti loafers grandpa shoes.

>> No.13462819

>>13461392
it's sleaze with a hint of onions

>> No.13463513

bump

>> No.13463548
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>>13460401
How do I cop this sleazy look without it looking like a costume? I was thinking a wool coat with a wide or turn up lapel, black tee, black linen pants or black jeans, and black lace up boots.

>> No.13464222

>>13463548
It's a lifestyle. That's said like 5 times every thread.

>> No.13464257

>>13464222
and it's a rather diverse lifestyle. you can be a drug importer, an investment banker, jeweler, a gambler, work trades, lawyer, car salesman, musician/writer, a cop.

and you can live in New york/jersey, las vegas, LA, reno, florida, charleston, NOLA

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>> No.13464322

Bump

>> No.13464357

>>13461034
INCREDIBLY SAFE outfit

Safe to the point of being embarrassing. Please recognize that part of the value of "aesthetic" or "style" is *in* alienation. Nobody cares that you dress in a way that everyone sees as acceptable and decent, but subtly signals at an aesthetic that is not even that radical. Style demands alienation, any half decent attempt at sleazecore isn't just signaling to internet browsers, it should actually disgust people that pass by you, and people will actually think you are untrustworthy.

>> No.13464360

>>13464357
^t. clueless

>> No.13464362

literally nobody browsing this site could pull off one of these looks, I suggest you really don't try

>> No.13464401

>>13464360
t. t. poster

>> No.13464402
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>>13460401
Am I doing this sleaze shit right?

>> No.13464421

>>13464402
>woman's hips
>h&m hawaiin shirt
>thin belt, silver when your necklace is gold?
>shit shoes...from what i can tell
>shit facial hair

>> No.13464431

>>13464421
I only wish my pants were slimmer through the opening and my shoes reptilian

>> No.13464439

>>13464431
why such an ostentatious watch, but a diminutive belt?

>> No.13464449

>>13464439
Simple, my casio f91 could not be found.

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>>13460401
is doppelcoop /fa/?
if he isn't what is he

>> No.13464499

>>13461392
NO MORE SKINNY PANTS

NO MORE SKINNY PANTS

NO MORE SKINNY PANTS

SAY IT WITH ME /FA/ IT'S NOT FUCKING 2011 ANYMORE YOU ABSOLUTE FAGGOTS

>> No.13464504

>>13464402
muscle up just a tad and maybe a slightly (but not over the top) more gaudy belt and you're lookin pretty splid desu. the moustache really sells it.

>> No.13464530

SLEAZY SEASON

SLEAZY SLEAZY SLEAZY SLEAZY

>> No.13465016

is there any sleazy sneakers ?

>> No.13465029

>>13464222
>>13464257
No I know its a lifestyle I’m pretty sleazy but that outfit is a look I want but it seems too over the top

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>>13460401
god damn you motherfuckers look awful. all of us down at the horse racetrack would kick ur ass if u would ever set foot in our turf. yall fucking keyboard posers n

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>>13465334
>horse racetrack

>> No.13465347

>>13461424
this would be overdone though. the vans give it a much needed contemporary edge

>> No.13465351

>>13462732
Not even meming, most of what Bugatti sells is old man clothing, both in design and fit.

>> No.13465356

>>13465347
>modernizing sleaze
ew

>> No.13465367

>>13465356
>cosplaying as a film character
wrong board, friendo. fashion is and will always be about moving forward.

>> No.13465377

>>13465367
>fashion is and always will be about moving forward
except when it isn’t. Fashion isn’t this grand force, fashion to some is different from what fashion is to you. Its about style and often the things of the past are fashionable.

>> No.13465381

Sorry , I don't get this aesthetic. Can someone tell me why you want to look like the midlevel manager of street crime?

>> No.13465386

>>13465377
you do you then. just remember you are chasing a trend instead of making it your own. unironically have a good day though.

>> No.13465395

>>13465342
fuck off you slob its a lifestyle. d kick your face in

>> No.13465418

>>13461034
I dig it, comfy

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>>13465395

>> No.13466188

>>13460996
The OP pic was an anons grandpa from the actual 70s. I dont know why you fucking ibm straight laced haters think co-opted leisure wear from casinos and 70s pornos is automatically faggy. Sure you gotta live the lifestyle and most on this board are h&m hawaiian shirt wearers but with the critics, i swear i could post the scummiest sleaziest man alive and you would call it trash. Go jerk off to streetwear

>> No.13466193

>>13465381
because we are scumbags

>> No.13466200
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13466200

too many low test betas in this thread

>> No.13466306

this all HAS to be irony right guys? yall seriously dont think this is a look/ aesthetic..pls tell me this is all bait

>> No.13466316

>>13466193
Actual scum don't post on anonymous autoenema boards about how to look sleazy. You are merely aspiring to look as good as midgrade underclass. As if being a jerk is kind of a reach for a person such as yourself. Why not try for more?

I feel like this is some halfhearted attempt at taking on a PUA persona, but you are really only ready to commit to buying a few new outfits. Not changing how you act or anything. And in the end you'll look back on this attempt while thinking, 'damn I was such a dork.'

But maybe I'm reading to much into it, and you simply like something ugly.

>> No.13466486

>>13466200
What an excellent picture.

>> No.13466515

>>13466193
no you are not, you are a nu-male

all of the fits ever posted in these generals are nothing but cosplay

Sleaze is not just the clothes you wear, it's the personality, and none of you have it. And no actual sleaze has worn hawaii shirts in decades

you too >>13466200

>> No.13466585

>>13466200
those stupid aylx belts lmfao

always thought the brand was some fake ass replica inspired aliexpress garbo they need to rename atleast pronto

>> No.13466795

>>13464357
actually, you are right. It may sound a bit /fa/scist, but a style means dedication to the point of living your dress, like you dont get up and think "howd i look sleazy today?" no, u just take something out the wardrobe and BAM, sleaze there.

>> No.13467080

>>13466515
okay so most people don't post their fits and the only people who do post fits are usually trash because the type of people who post pics to 4chan aren't the type of people who are sleazy. Posting pictures online ever isn't sleazy.

>> No.13467301

>>13466316
>>13467080

>actual military guys don't post on 4chan hngg
>actual astronauts dont post in lunarcore

Sleaze threads are garbage, not because the concept is bad but because it's just people spouting
>durr actual sleaze wouldn't use 4chan
Are you suggesting we can't discuss a style based in 70s and 80s drug/mob culture because we are on an anime board? Yeah most anons don't post fits because they are shit and just hawaiian shirts, but at least let's post some inspo ppl. These threads at first actually discussed /sleaze/ movies, pictures, characters, and how to modernize the look and what the lifestyle would entail. What should i wear oh wise ones, if trousers, pomade, and print shirts are cosplay?

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>>13467080
all im saying is-- keep posting inspo pusher anon, keep trying out fits anons and live however sleazy of a life you want with a wardrobe to reflect the aforementioned. Don't let these threads die and ignore the gatekeepers. they do have a point and if you look dweeby you'll end up in a cringe thread, but keep it up yo.

>> No.13467360

>>13467301
I'm saying, to be in this thread is to be too self-reflective to actually be sleazy. So what you are wearing is a costume. That's ok, if inauthentic. But why choose a costume that will make people dislike you? Make them think they are better than you? You aren't an actor in a play. You are spending time and money to make your life harder.

>> No.13467382

(1/2) one more thing. when i first saw these threads a little over a year ago, i thought /fa/ had hit the money. There were inspo threads of ~50 images and discussion was good in these as recent as 3 months ago. i'm not on /fa/ very much, but i had sort of expected this style to blow up and become a popular meme. If sleaze is cosplay, 2018-19 fashion will be cosplay. Sleaze has been a mainstay of mid 2017 and 2018 runways and street style and bold prints, gaudy jewelry, low cut shirts, trousers, loafers, slick back hair and other style drawing inspiration from 70s/80s vegas nightlife are everywhere. For once I thought /fa/ would be slightly ahead of and with the zeitgeist but it appears that everyone rejects this notion of style. I understand that low test autists online will post unattractive photos half-assing the sleaze concept with a h&m shirt and skinny black jeans, but there's no reason that should bar the board from discussing this style to a logical modern iteration, figuring out what to update from the 70s/80s looks. Obviously with everything, attractiveness and attitude will lend credence to someones style, that is extraneous to mention.

>> No.13467395

It's hard to figure out this board as there are no uniform or guidelines anymore, even within styles. Everyone is so concerned that everything is played out or a meme, but in real life, this occurs in every subculture since the beginning of time. If 100 anons dress sleazy all across the countries that see this, it's not going to become played out. was it a meme when everyone at the disco looked similar but had different colors and patterns? Sometimes I wonder what the anons who bash any -core or meme style on this board suggest i wear instead. There is no ultimate individual style, nor is that something necessarily 'good' to aspire to. Here on the sleaze threads we aren't suggesting to all dress the same, we are just trying to explore a subculture as realized by prior decades rooted in attitudes of corruption, gaudiness, full blown masculinity or femininity, sexuality, and confidence. This entails an attitude to not giving a fuck what people think about you and is the logical conclusion to rampant degeneracy and individualism. sleazy lads (not talking about numales trying to fit in) are saying fuck it im already an asshole, might as well embrace the fashionable depiction of this lot.
>>13467360
I agree with you. Every thread on 4chan is likely too self-reflective to wear anything with a connotation to it though. It isn't inauthentic if you slowly develop your own version of the style. I genuinely like the outfits the drug lords of the 70s and 80s wore. Someone may not care what their peers think of them, but is still curious on how to develop their style and find new inspo and items they have never seen. If I wanted to look more like a mob hitman because i fucking want to, and i use 4chan /fa/ as a tool, it's as authentic as any 4chan user can get. There aren't exactly job postings to live this lifestyle and make bands like the narcos days, i don't see the problem in discussing the style. Perhaps naming it 'sleaze' was a mistake.

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>> No.13467623

>>13467395
I'm not really objecting to the inauthenticity. Rather I don't understand why you'd try to dress like the midlevel guy, like you hope one day, if you're lucky, you might be Big Pussy Bonpensiero? Why not, if you can't dress like a respectable citizen, at least aim for crime boss. Nobody thought Lepke Buchalter wasn't a man. Or John Gotti, for something more 80s.

>> No.13467666

>>13467382
>>13467395
This guy actually might be a huge fashion icon, he clearly loves the smell of his own farts

>> No.13467678

>>13466200
>t. śoyboy fashion victim

>> No.13468001

>>13461057
>he doesnt know what johnny sack said about patent leather

>> No.13468046

>>13460401
IMO Nike Air Max 97, just about all of them

>> No.13468061

>>13461392
nah man sleaze is about no fucks
loosen up your silhouette

>> No.13468074

>>13467395
>>13467382
>>13467360
discussion like this reminds me of the good ol' days

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>>13460401

>> No.13468232

>>13468189
>suede

>> No.13468234

>>13466200
>being a ginger
i applaud the effort at least

>> No.13468244

>>13468189
w2c?

>> No.13468294
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13468294

Is this sleazecore?

>> No.13468305

>>13468294
1, no
2, isn't that the goldeneye speedrun guy

>> No.13468720

>>13464402
I want to fuck you, but that's not a compliment.

>> No.13468736

>>13466188
shut up faggot

>> No.13468750
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Bowling Shirts out sleaze Hawaiian Shirts.

>> No.13468759

>>13468294
Vince Vaughn circa 2005 is that you?

>> No.13468762

>>13460463

Chill good goy - your nautical ivy is showing.

Boat shoes are on the opposite end of sleaze.

Loafers, embellished mules & velvet Chelsea's will do you right.

>> No.13468769

>>13464402
Unbutton a few at the top and swap out your denim for track pants.

You're like 90% of the way there.

>> No.13468829

>>13468762
inspo for velvet chelsea boots?

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Am I sleezecore? Do i look terrible? Give me tips. I know those pants are shit i already trashed them

>> No.13468896

>>13461034
not sleaze

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>>13468836
for starters, that hair needs some life to it. i do not know what to suggest. The peaky blinders undercut is pretty good. You will need some pomade and coconut oil to keep the hair healthy and slicked back.

2. the t shirt is not loud enough. you got big forearms which is a plus for sleaze core. the t shirt looks screams business casual though.

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13468987

how do I achieve ace ventua-core, my fellow sleazeballs?

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what about this?

>> No.13469003

>>13468836
that shirt isn't gaudy enough and those shoes are too prep. look like a half-assed attempt at following MFA-core. get some loafers and a floral print shirt immediately. AND LOSE THE GLASSES.

>> No.13469019

>>13468987
wear clothes like ace, do coke and act like an smartass. People will hate you fo sho

>> No.13469035

>>13466200
kek

>> No.13469041

>>13468836
Not sleaze just an awful fit.

>> No.13469053

>>13468977
>>13469003
Thanks, actually useful . I appreciate it


>>13469041
This is more of what i expected

>> No.13469065

You can only pull this off if you've passed 35. Don't ridicule yourselves

>> No.13469200

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPtfPSUjPvI
This vid was posted a while ago.
Found an article with some of the clothing.
https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/3b7pnb/tequila-video

>> No.13469257

Are turtlenecks under blazers sleaze?

>> No.13469315

>>13461034
Uniqlo?

>> No.13469323

>>13468836
Bait

>> No.13469361

>>13468001
>reading gq

>> No.13469366
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>>13469200
disgusting... very /fa/. This video shows that sleazeballs can be incels and old fuckheads. why do we idolize the grotesque and garish tho anons? Sleaze is an interesting phenomenon and i wonder why its coming back (besides the recycling of trends)

>> No.13469451

>>13469366
>Sleaze is an interesting phenomenon and i wonder why its coming back (besides the recycling of trends)
Because its way more expressive than other stlyes i guess. And the best part is that you can nail it even when youre ugly and dont really care for fashion.

>> No.13469471

>>13464469
Sleaze

>> No.13469667

What is some sleaze kino besides sopranos and trailer park boys?

>> No.13469724

>>13469323
Fuck. Is it really that bad? Its not bait

>> No.13469736
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>>13469667
Narcos. Especially Pacho and the Cali Cartel

>> No.13469887

>>13466795
>how do you even

>> No.13469930

>>13469451
right, with patterns and colors in suits, pants, and shirts, you can essentially wear similar outfits but still not like clones of each other. I think that the politics of the day and societal breakdown has made for the sleazy attitude to grow.

>> No.13469952

>>13469736
w2c flamboyant silk shirts

>> No.13470265

>>13460996
B-b-but what if I'm a 20-something jacked hairy alcoholic whose favorite pasttime is fucking in public

>> No.13470273

>>13461424
Love this, spot-on

>> No.13470286

Where can I get a cheap gold chain? And what would be sleazier, real or fake gold?

>> No.13470293

>>13470265
You wouldn't care about the opinion of a bunch of autistic people gatekeeping a style on a fashion imageboard.

>> No.13470327

it's hilarious how bad you guys are at pulling this off. it's honestly not that hard to do.

>> No.13470369

>y-you can't be sleaze if you're young
Look at Christopher from Sopranos

>> No.13470378

>>13466200

This is a great picture.

>> No.13470380

>>13470286
Buy a gold chain with a low fineness so you can call it a real gold chain even if it doesnt contain much gold. Like 9 karat or shit like that.

>> No.13470413

SSS WORLD CORP is like a sleazecore brand from the ground up

>> No.13470432
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>>13470413
>gets hired at Brioni with no design experience. fucks off with rockstar ideas and upsets the boomers and chinese. gets fired after 6 months. starts his own brand with sleazy suits and shirts.
his description of the brand is sleazecore to a t. wrap it up folks.
>With SSS I told [stylist] Marc [Goehring] that I wanted a dirty ’70s businessman in Connecticut that’s going around selling vacuums. He’s had a tough day, he doesn’t really give a shit about his appearance, he just kind of has to wear a suit because of a formality, he’s probably just really dying to get to a bar at 2:00 p.m. to knock back a few beers before getting back on the road. It’s the disheveled version of what a Wall St. guy would be. I like the idea of this guy taking the tie off and having the wide open shirt, but the suit is impeccable, and his feeling is very I don’t give a fuck. You’ve got a big collar, you’ve got a silk shirt, but it’s not preppy, it’s not tight, it’s not for someone that’s sitting there caring about what their hair is like. And whether it’s trainers or cowboy boots or stuff like that, you don’t need to wear a certain shoe, you don’t need to follow the sartorial rules.

>> No.13470433

>>13469724
What about your fit is sleaze in the slightest?

>> No.13470442
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Certified sleaze?

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>>13470432

>> No.13470614
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Are these guys from breaking bad sleazy?
It's about exuding degeneracy and living it.

>> No.13470924

>>13470614
That's just slackercore.

>> No.13470983

>>13464499
daily reminder that the slim fit jean has been in style since the 1960's and people like you are trend hopping faggots

>> No.13471027

>>13470983
those are nearly skin tight and therefore in very bad taste. slim straight will always be acceptable but skinny like that is not cool at all on guys

>> No.13471092

>>13470433
So what the fuck is it

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>>13468836

>> No.13471492

>>13470380
Does gold plated count? Whats a reasonable price range?

>> No.13471501

>>13470983
no you butt-outlining skin tight spandex pant wearing nigger, slim jeans are great, SKINNY JEANS ARE FOR FAGGOTS. i can tell you're a nigger by your 5th grade reading comprehension

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>>13468294
What is the name of that Canadian sweater he always wears? I want one :'(

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>>13460401
I wear crocodile leather shoes

>> No.13471565
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>>13471560
Full sleazy

>> No.13472656

>>13471565
w2c shirt?

>> No.13473405

>>13471092
Shitty

>> No.13473585

>>13471560
you're very lucky to have those shoes

>> No.13474034

>>13461057
What happened to make this picture so shitty

>> No.13474038

>>13461301
Definitely for a Colombian drug dealer

>> No.13474051

>>13462043
Looks like cheap material

>>13462057
Nice. Almost too classy for this look.

>> No.13474290

>>13473585
They're a bit too small desu and it makes my feet sore as hell when I have to walk a lot in them
Largest available Asian size isn't made for big European Sasquatch feet

>> No.13474297

>>13472656
I bought material and had a local tailor make it
very cheap in this country

>> No.13474301 [DELETED] 

reminder that you wont look this way when you try to look this way

dumb LARPers

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>> No.13474437

>>13468294
>>13471520

posting anonymously again about yourself huh goose? you dont take any days off huh

>> No.13474458

>>13464291
Indian immigrant core

>> No.13475535

do you have to middle aged to pull of sleazecore? i feel like you just look tacky if you're in your 20's trying pull off wearing this stuff

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>>13475535
depends if you got babyface or not.also, dont wear shorts like the fags in the hread

>> No.13475595

this thread needs music
you know, cuz sleazy people need a soundtrack to fit their lifestyles

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkO8AKzsxcY

>> No.13475665

>>13461424
>adult
>meme shoes

>> No.13476181

What's sleazy footwear?

>> No.13476205

>>13468836
You look like Dan Schneider.

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>>13476181

>> No.13476369

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifFJ84F4N6I

is alex sleaze?

>> No.13476402

>>13461424
Is that a death grips tattoo?

>> No.13476405

>>13461424
W2c shirt ?

>> No.13476434
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13476434

I hate all you faggot larpers. Faggots on a fashion message board are the complete opposite of sleaze.

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>>13476434
get a load of this salty sailor

>> No.13476465

>>13466200
guy on the left has a terrible fit head to toe

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dumping. let's revive this thread boyos.

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>> No.13477661

>>13469361
He’s a sopranos character not a faggy magazine correspondent you absolute slice

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>> No.13477674

>>13468750
How is this guy sleaze? How do you faggots not understand what sleaze is..

>> No.13477677

>>13477661
did you watch the clip? just riffing m8.

>Johnny Sack meets his two U.S. Marshall escorts, as his lawyer brings his tuxedo for him to change into. Johnny looks at his shoes: “Patent leather?” Lawyer: “It’s a tuxedo.” Johnny: “Have you read an issue of GQ in the past 3 or 4 years.” Alright, Johnny – way to go. Glad to see the jail stay hasn’t made you forgot what a snappy dresser you were.

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>> No.13478148

>>13477661
the absolute state of this lad

smack talk someone for not getting a reference while not getting a reference

>> No.13478186

>>13476402
It's orphic egg, greek mythos symbol. Not everytang on internet has to be connected with Death Grips.

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>>13464402
>>13466200
>>13468294
>>13468836
none of you are sleazecore. try spraying some davidoff cool water, sell some merchant cash advances and get back to me

>> No.13478316

>>13478195
t. floor manager at target

>> No.13478323

>>13466200
me on the right

>> No.13478325

>>13478195
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.13478570

>>13461034
w2c coat

>> No.13478596
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13478596

Sleaze is just an amusing attitude some assholes have naturally. And if you're not "lucky" enough to have a sketchy dirtbag vibe about you, just start doing cocaine and I practically guarantee that you soon will. (permanently)

Sometimes sleazeballs can wear a fucking tuxedo

>> No.13478598
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>>13478596
And sometimes they can wear nothin' at all

>> No.13479055

>>13477658
Serge GOAT sleaze

>> No.13479513
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13479513

>>13460950
just have something to wear when its rainy or muddy and you're good
pic related my daily shoe

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Rate

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>> No.13479788

>>13479677
Is that you ?
If so, it's the first time I see someone from here pulling it.

>> No.13479789

>>13479788
Yes, thanks

>> No.13479873

What's a sleazy language?

>> No.13479881

>>13479873
any Slavic language

>> No.13481625

>>13479873
Italian is best

>> No.13481683

>>13466200
XXXX gold in bottles? You are animals

>> No.13481690

>>13462282
Not the guy, but its my fave.

>> No.13482065

>>13461034
no bueno

>> No.13482087
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13482087

>nusleaze

>> No.13482612

>>13468991
Delete this RIGHT FUCKING NOW

>> No.13482625

>>13482087
You just look like a faggot larping as a Japanese tourist.

>> No.13483120

>>13461418
>regularly
Don't glamorise him so much.

>> No.13483176

>>13461034
pretty bad

>> No.13483181

>>13461353
Calling HST sleazecore is like calling God religious

>> No.13483189

>>13461424
>meme shoes
>awful mustache
>those accessories
>death grips tattoo
>pulp fiction reference tattoo

This belongs in a cringe thread

>> No.13483191

>>13461645
prove it

>> No.13483445
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13483445

inspo dumper from earlier. this thread is still pretty much dead. there is no hope i guess

>> No.13483449
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>> No.13483476

>>13483458
so weird that you can tell that he's just larping as a fatty. he has so much more muscle than anyone that actually let themselves go to that point would have. really reminds you that fatties have a normal human underneath all that blubber

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>>13460401
Most anons pointed in the right direction so, from there you could try with small details like matching socks and laces for extra boldness effect

>> No.13483596

>>13477575
where to cop shades like these?

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13483701

Anybody know w2c shades similar to pic related?

>> No.13483744

>>13481683
cartos were cheap

>> No.13484056

>>13464402
>>13461424
>>13461392
>>13466200
>>13468836
>>13471565
>>13478195
The point is to look fagged out, not look like a fag
>>13482087
>two casios
>gun poking out of waistband
you're almost there

>> No.13484170

>>13479677
the lil coffee cup makes it great

>> No.13484777

>>13483504
not sleaze

>> No.13484830

>>13479873
English spoken with a New York Italian-american accent, but only if you're not actually in New York.

>> No.13484839

>>13461392
Bigger watch wouldn’t hurt either

>> No.13484840

how do i get a sleazecore bf

>> No.13484928

I can't find anything for shoes for me sleazecore fit, So I'm the summer I wear flip-flops.

>> No.13484981

>>13470442
more like certified poverty

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>>13465334
>>13465395

>> No.13485673

>>13460401
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEMfzxNqGN0

>> No.13486713
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13486713

Post more inspo or memes

>> No.13486730
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>> No.13486737

>>13484840
hang out at the tracks

>> No.13486741

>>13479677
Nice look. The chest hair and the mustache look great

>> No.13486742

>>13479881
Feels good to be a Slav then

>> No.13486862

>>13461392
Fix your fucking posture

>> No.13486879

>>13486862
>standing up straight

get a load of this fuckin do gooder

>> No.13487288

>>13478596
>just start doing cocaine and I practically guarantee that you soon will. (permanently)
Explain

>> No.13487870

Are there any sleeze hats? Tfw skinhead

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>>13461359
Now why would you say something mean like that?

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>>13470983
Why don't you do some fuckin research before you post dumb shit

>> No.13488783

>>13482087
yes but what shoe?

>> No.13489557
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Is this /sleazecore/?

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thw want to dress full sleaze but my only mode of transportation is a bus

>> No.13489683

>>13489675
how does that affect you at all? do you need to take a bus to get internet access?

>> No.13489690

>>13489683
Dressing sleazy while living broke is an oxymoron

>> No.13489732

>>13489690
not really, being in debt due to unpaid gambling debts is p sleaze

>> No.13489738

>>13489732
nah thats what hawaiian shirt wearing broke boys think to cope

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAZpSfPzx_g

>> No.13489871

>>13489557
that's /George-michael from arrested development-core/

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>>13485673
huutista, mutta totta

>> No.13490120

can you be female and pull off sleazecore?

>> No.13490170

>>13490120
If you want to look like a crack whore, sure

>> No.13490208

the main thing about sleezecore is just living your life. taking a mirror pic asking "is this sleezecore" is no where close to being sleezecore. some of you put way too much thought into this.

>> No.13490234

>>13461034
will you fuck me
t.18 yo girl

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>>13490120
sure

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Mark Balelo from storage wars is a great example or sleeze, even ended up killing himself in the end. Can't find any pics of his feet tho

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>>13490436

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>>13460401
how sleazcore is Freddie?

>> No.13491820

>>13491367
that's disco. too clean for sleaze. patterned shirt, cigarette in mouth and/or drink in hand, and some sunglasses to cover up bloodshot eyes and he'd be there.

>> No.13491822

>>13491820
i am aware Freddie isn't a disco artist, just before all your panties bunch.

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[ERROR]

new york inspo, where can i get these pants?

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[ERROR]

>>13492761
>>13492761
god cukginf damn it wrong picture

>> No.13492888

>>13461034
Looks like a costume

>> No.13492896

>>13468836
You look like a mannish lesbian, not sleazy

>> No.13492901

All of you faggots look like you're playing dress-up

>> No.13493092

>>13492767
ebay: 70s mens polyester slacks

>> No.13493641

>>13492901
Wanna fucking fight me faggot?
>>13492767

>> No.13493673
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>>13493641
post sleazecore weapons

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>>13493673

>> No.13493678
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>>13493675

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>>13493678

>> No.13494068

>>13490120
Animal print and menthol cigarettes will get you where you need to go

>> No.13494123

>>13461034
Take the jacket off, it looks like a safety blanket.

>> No.13494127

>>13461353
Sleazus

Sleaze Jesus

>> No.13494358

>>13471520
they're called Cowichan sweaters, just search for them on eBay or Kijiji or something

>> No.13494395

>>13468991
Did you crawl out of some dvd copy of Gummo?

>> No.13494401

>>13494395
gummo was released on DVD?

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>>13477658
"Ugliness is in a way superior to beauty because it lasts."

>> No.13494473

>>13494462
..he's not ugly tho. he's at average, maybe a point below, but not ugly

>> No.13494476

>>13490120
No, but there are many complimentary styles, gold-digger-core, hooker, mob boss wife, anything Miami, crime and questionable works. Start a inspo thread for sleaze-compatible women's styles.

>> No.13494480

>>13492767
I wonder how many men he's killed.

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>>13494473
You're being deceived into thinking he's not a godawful troglodyte because of his superior styling and immense masculinity. Which if you think about it, is the key to sleazecore.

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>> No.13494501

>>13494480
none? real life isn't an HBO show

>> No.13494503

>>13494481
still not too far from average. think about a 5/10, he's not /that/ ugly

>> No.13494590

>>13464291
I have a different pair of these lol

>> No.13494832

>>13492767
holy shit style

>> No.13494867

Look, you can't be sleazy just because you're wearing a costume. It has to be genuine, you have to actually BE sleazy. By this I mean your personality and choises over clothes. None of you skinny chubby cheeck wannabes are fooling anyone with those costumes, not even yourself.