/fa/ - Fashion

[Anonymous No.13328751]

I know we discussed this before but is Xanax /fa/ I got a script for 90 footballs and this shit is crazy. How do I not take it everyday.

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13328777]

please dont do it

PLEASE. You will get wired to it within a month of daily use. maybe less. The withdrawals are INEVITABLE and can kill you. They also take months. Months of fear and despair, ALL the time. They are so so so so dangerous, anon.

PLEASE.

[Anonymous No.13328785]

fucking druggo loser

[Anonymous No.13328793]

>>13328777
That’s not cool, grandpa.

[Anonymous No.13328799]

>>13328751
former addict here. grandpa above is scare-mongering a little on withdrawal but xanax addiction is definitely not cool and will fuck your life up. you hear the same stories from all ex addicts and we say the same shit all the time (dont fucking do it) for a reason.

at least with alcohol people will vomit and pass out. with xanax you get the disinhibition and you keep going. youll steal, send embarassing messages to friends, run your mouth and do stupid shit all day. the retrograde amnesia means you wont even be able to remember the good times you were having fun, there will be bona fide months that are just blank spots in your brain.

godspeed, if youre like me or any other addict youre going to have to learn the hard way. hope you come out in one piece

[Anonymous No.13328803]

definitely not /fa/

[Anonymous No.13328806]

>>13328751
stop doing xans you will fuck up your memory permanently
get some oxys or some hydromorph, at the very least you'll get a sweet nod and not act like a obnoxious idiot

[Anonymous No.13328807]

fake ass heroin

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13328854]

>>13328799
I was on a high dose for 5 years, 4-6 mgs Xanax 2-3 Klonopin. I beat it in like... 6 months. Absolute hell. To me it was the hardest shit I ever put myself through. That accelerated withdrawal still takes half a year. The entire time, panic attacks all the time. Always. Never able to sleep. A few months of that will break a person. It wears you down.

[Anonymous No.13328859]

>>13328854
Why stop?

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13328888]

>>13328859
It makes you increasingly dumber and flatter and reckless over long periods. It eliminates a lot of higher thought by shutting it out, really. It's the same mechanism as alcohol, only less directly toxic.

[Anonymous No.13328891]

>>13328806
Uhh and get addicted to opiates? Like that's any better lol, and this is coming from a former heroin addict who's done all this shit. I personally have a script for 60 bars a month, I binge on refill day and take it as prescribed for the rest of the month. I will say though, if you get addicted to xanax you're a weak-minded lummox.

[Anonymous No.13328898]

>>13328799
big facts, stay away from xanax on a regular basis op

the insomnia and nightmares once i could finally sleep were the worst part for me desu

[Anonymous No.13328954]

>>13328793
When the hyperactive retard is telling you to stop you better not do it.

[Anonymous No.13328956]

>>13328888
Quads of truth

[Anonymous No.13328982]

>>13328954
So continue? It’s prescribed by a concierge doctor i think he knows what he’s doing. I’m on them right now and can tell you you’ll be fine if you tapper. All the horror stories are from kiddos that buy them for recreation and binge. They’re fa af

[Anonymous No.13329076]

>>13328777
or take them in a responsible manner and not be a degenerate

[Anonymous No.13329154]

>>13328751
Did you get it for anxiety? Get the strong CBD-oil and take that 3 times a day for 3 days and see if there's a change before going all out on xanax. It's not a miracle substance but it is very efficient as an anti-psychotic and for anxiety, as well as a anti-inflammatory pain medicine. I had an operation and after the first day I only used cbd oil as a pain medicine. I basically have a left over closet full of lean (codeine) just lying there.

All benzos do is make you a zombie and yes, you are not special and you will develop a dependancy during those 90 bars.

good luck anon.

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13329170]

>>13329076
Did you read? I NEVER ABUSED THEM. Regular prescribed use WILL physically addict you in a month or so.

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13329174]

>>13329154
I replaced xans with CBD heavy strains, after withdrawal, actually. Lifesaver.

[Anonymous No.13329392]

>>13328751
Obviously it’s fa, makes you care free and confident. Only issue is if you take too much daily you’ll get withdrawals, which can be lethal
I have a large amount of etizolam now and I’m actually enjoying it more than Xanax. But yeah benzos are defo fa, I’ve taken them before a shoot and it’s been some of the best shoots I did
Damn, this threads makes me wanna take some etizolam despite taking 2mg last evening

[Anonymous No.13329395]

>>13328854
Lmao what shithouse doc prescribed that Hugh of a benzo DAILY for FIVE years? That’s fucking retarded
Also to all druggies, what’s your rule of how many days a week you can “safely” take benzos? I go 3 days a week, but I know I’m mentally dependent at this point, don’t think physically as I’ll sometimes go a week or so off

[Anonymous No.13329410]

I used to take ativan a lot, I took Xanax once and didn't think it was a big deal.

[Anonymous No.13329421]

FUCK XANAX ITS THE DEVIL

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13329430]

>>13329395
I have PTSD from head trauma.

[Anonymous No.13329432]

>>13328751
lol enjoy killing yourself

[Anonymous No.13329449]

XANAX AND OTHER BENZOS ARE BLISS. TAKE THEM AND HAVE ALL YOUR INHIBITIONS AND ANXIETIES MELT AWAY ANONS

[Anonymous No.13329520]

>>13328751
duuuuude I like being a vegetable lmao

[Anonymous No.13329584]

>>13329174
This really, although I prefer pure cbd because I don't like to get high.

[Anonymous No.13329640]

>>13329449
This right here

[Anonymous No.13329897]

Are there alternatives to benzos that actually work without literally killing you if you stop taking them

[Anonymous No.13329915]

>>13329897
Did you read any of the replies in this thread?

>>13329154
>>13329174
>>13329584

[Anonymous No.13329956]

just smoke the fucking dope

[Anonymous No.13329982]

Just be responsible like you should be with any drug, dont drink with the fuckers unless you want huge chunks of your memory just gone

[Anonymous No.13330037]

>>13329956
Weed gives me unbearable anxiety. Shrooms and lsd make me less anxious but aren’t something I can do everyday.

[Anonymous No.13330065]

>>13328777

whats the benefit of doing xanax?

why dont people just do it at a low frequency?

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13330076]

>>13330065
Some do.

Imagine all the best parts of booze without the hangover and more euphoria. That's benzos. If you have a ptsd problem like mine and you're taking them for panic, sure, but also because they lower the overall amount of electrical activity in the brain and prevent seizures.

So does pot. Fuck pharms.

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13330083]

>>13329982
I lost a year and a half, maybe more. Friends told me I got in street beef every weekend, shoplifted everything without thinking about it and wrote waaayyy too much graffiti.

I just was being a bar tard

[Anonymous No.13330086]

>>13330076

sounds really fucken good desu

might get me a script and just do them on rare social occasions (bc really fuck being super anxious)

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13330096]

>>13330086
I do. Once every two months I drop 4 mgs when I close a deal or finish a few tracks or manage to not an hero for another chapter of life

They go great with the single bag of heroin I use each christmas season.

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13330097]

>>13330096
>>13330096
More like 3-4 months, actually.

[Anonymous No.13330123]

>durrr drugs r cool and ur cool if you do them!
who keeps falling for this meme?

[Anonymous No.13330130]

Is phenibut effay?

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13330146]

>>13330130
No more than once every 1.5 weeks. You'll fuck yourself over bad if you daily dose. even for a week.

It was developed in soviet russia, for astronauts. It makes you focused like adderall, while being relaxed xannies. I SWEAR.

Is that not the perfect space drug? It's considered a heavily controlled substance in russia, actually!
And that's a place where you can stock up on Krokodil with your morning paper.

So don't abuse it.

[Anonymous No.13330155]

>>13328777
Get off the computer old man

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13330162]

>>13330155
Fuck off I have 4 days to waste every month. Mind your business, faggot. I'll do it here or under bridge overpasses.

You have no say.

[Anonymous No.13330166]

>>13330162
What a sad, lonely existence you must lead in the retirement home...

[Anonymous No.13330169]

>>13330146
what dose you taking?
I take close to 3g sometimes and never has it been as strong as what youre describing

[Anonymous No.13330179]

>>13328777
memes aside, you should probably listen to this guy.

[Anonymous No.13330187]

any advice on easily procuring benzos, cuoldnt be bothered getting off deep web for a taste

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13330199]

>>13330169
5-6, motherfucker.

>>13330166
You mean the 4 story brownstone I own free and clear in brooklyn? I'm set for life, I played the game right and got blessed. I have a high end degree and I'm a published creative 5 times over! Life is good, but I'm clearly smarter than you and probably take luxuries for granted that you dream about when the heat buts out in your wood frame row house apartment. or whatever. taller than you and I don't make desperate sad little shitposts like the garbage I'm currently pissing on.

More riches than you, more bitches than you, all i ain't got is more stitches than you. (That's from Big-:L)

Please keep sending me your hate tho - I've been trying to really incite you with this post, because I LOVE getting frustrated hate mail from the incompetent and jelly faggots who pump my gas.

[Anonymous No.13330207]

>>13330146
i take it three times a week (fri/sat/mon) and don't experience any withdrawal effects. but i also don't go past 2g, anything more just makes me feel dizzy and drunk rather than loss of anxiety/feeling good

[Anonymous No.13330210]

>>13330199
fucking lol

[Anonymous No.13330223]

>>13330199
Serious question, no hate, as far as I understand, your parents gave you that brownstone, right?

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13330233]

>>13330223
Nope. They gave me some residential shithole in florida I'm going to sell to aging jews ASAP.

>>13330207
Smart

>>13330210
When I come into threads and meet dipshits, I try to get them as frothing mad as possible. I like the attention.

[Anonymous No.13330239]

>>13330233
P.S. You never finished the story about that girl you dated.

[Anonymous No.13330247]

>>13330199
>>13330233
Cringe

[Anonymous No.13330303]

>>13328891
>water is only wet if you're a PUSSY NIGGA

[Anonymous No.13330310]

>>13328982
First of all, there is only one effay drug and it's cocaine. Xanax is literally anxiety medication and if you don't see how pathetic that is to take recreationally then you're beyond saving.

[Anonymous No.13330312]

>>13330037
Smoke industrial hemp flower. It's legal and cheap and 0.3% THC by dry weight, you'll like it.

[Anonymous No.13330317]

>>13330187
Just go up to random black people and call them niggers, they'll know what you mean.

[Anonymous No.13330333]

Everyone in this thread has clearly never seen what people actually look like when they're fucked up on xans, you do NOT look cool. I've seen dudes forget how to open doors and yell autistic shit at girls. At least when you're drunk by the time you have enough retard confidence to seriously embarrass yourself your words are usually slurred beyond recognition and you don't have the coordination to jump off a balcony to show how "cool" you are.

Seriously, take a full bar and strap a gopro on and watch the footage the next day, you won't leave your house for a month from embarrassment. There are reasons why your brain has a certain amount of inhibition.

[Anonymous No.13330334]

>>13328799
What dosage do you take for “fun” - does it not just make you tired? Do you drink with it for the effect?

[Anonymous No.13330376]

>>13330333
>Everyone in this thread

did you read the thread? there's only one person who is actually saying to do it. everyone else is taking a hard no

>>13330334
it doesnt take much. 1mg clonazepam, 2mt alpra, just the ordinary pill is enough on the initial dose. then you build tolerance and take more and more. to chase the initial high you feel on the first dose. you never get there again and you dont even know whats happening because you are basically turning off your super-ego functions on this drug. things like consequences, the past, and the future disappear.

it makes you GABA-tired, which isnt exactly sedation. you know those stories of people who take ambien and wake up the next day not remembering why theres a half-eaten bag of fast food on the kitchen counter? thats because ambien is a short half life but intense benzo dose. it helps people go to sleep but it doesnt keep them there.

[Anonymous No.13330391]

Rate
Pls

Xanax will kill you. It makes you black out. Kinda boring too.

[Anonymous No.13330394]

>>13330376

>>13328793
>>13329076
>>13329392
>>13329410
>>13329449
>>13329640
>>13329982
>>13330086
>>13330187

[Anonymous No.13330399]

>>13330391
Solid. I’d clean that mirror though pal....

You headed out somewhere cool?

[Anonymous No.13330401]

They'll ruin your life. Blacked out for like 2 days one time, 1st thing I did when I woke back up was pop another one. They're so seductive cus they give you amazing social skills & make you not give a fuck but it's all fake and eventually you'll just be a drug addicted zombie. The withdrawal is horrifying if you take em for any length of time & you'll wish you were dead instead of not being able to sleep & hallucinating & shaking & just generally experiencing hell on earth. LOVE YOURSELF

[king Don boss No.13330402]

>>13330233
Can Income visit you in NYC?

[Anonymous No.13330413]

>>13330399
Nah it was chilly when i took this pic.
Whether just beginning to break.
Thx

[Anonymous No.13330416]

There are retards who still think xans are cool?

[Anonymous No.13330501]

>>13329154
can vouch for cbd oil. shit is magic. saved my life on a trip once

[Anonymous No.13330515]

Dude you must live in an affluent area with low addiction rates. I just want to let you know what you're doing can completely destroy your life. Benzodiazapine addiction isn't in any way a joke, in some ways worse than opiate addiction

Here in st Paul, it's said that benzodiazapine in MN is like crack in Harlem. I know a lot of people who've almost died on that shit.

Pic related it's Charlie he killed himself when he was off a beam

[Anonymous No.13330577]

>>13328751
Do it Faggot.

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13330584]

>>13330402
Yeah, if you want. I got extra rooms.

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13330588]

>>13330239
I wrote it 95%. It's a painful as fuck document and I really feel apprehensive about sharing it here. My folks dont even know the shit that happened to me with her, and fuck them anyway they're like 75 but I just wrote it down and got really nauseated by it gain.

[Anonymous No.13330592]

>>13328751
Do it Faggot.>>13330515
I'm glad Charlie is dead you dumb dick.

[Anonymous No.13331020]

>>13330037
Jesus. HERE IS YOUR ANSWER YOU DING DONG READ >>13329584

cbd is the part in weed that makes the anx go away and doesn't make you high

[Anonymous No.13331394]

>>13328854
Fuck! I am in withdrawal right now. How are you nowadays? Do you go back to your old self?

I am now 2 months off and in absolute hell from benzo withdrawal.. incapacitated, isolated, just fucked. I tapered off gradually over 3 months with valium, after just 5 weeks of ativan use.

Can't feel emotions.. just fear and despair. Is it possible to feel normal again?

[Anonymous No.13331441]

lol take it everyday
ODing is very /fa/ noone cares about ur wellbeing

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13331517]

>>13331394
I'm currently relearning social nuances and rediscovering values and beliefs that I'd quite simply forgotten about. I'm still scared a lot, but not in that nasty, coiled-spring of dread sorta way that us benzoids experience in W/D.

Most people have to WD for half as long as they took the drug regularly. There are twenty year users who NEVER abused their benzos and are now facing 8-10 year recoveries.

The GABA system isn't very plastic at all, it just don't bounce back like other neural systems can when faced with suddenly producing neurotransmitters that have long been supplied in analogue forms by the drug.

You're 2 months in? How long did you use and how much? I was suicidally fast in my withdrawal. I had a few seizures, I was in hell for 6 months. But I had a high dose for years. YMMV, you know?

I'd expect 2 more months of WD at least, and then you're gonna have to relearn how to interact with reality and build coping mechanisms that aren't external chemical anxiolytics.

You gonna have to man up big time when you re-enter the world. IMO.

[Anonymous No.13331691]

>>13331517
Thank you for the response man.

2 months into withdrawal yeah - exactly 60 days today. I used ativan/temazepam for insomnia for 5 weeks until switching over to diazepam to taper over 3 months total.

Every day is hell, though it may not be as awful as before, it still is a hell I'm in and I hardly see it stopping, ever.. Which is why I am -constantly- in the thick of it and very suicidal. Anhedonia/depression (never had before), constant anxiety, super dizzy physically, confused, OCD thoughts, memory is completely shot.. I can't focus and I feel demented.

I started the taper at around 7-9mg valium after using around 1-2mg ativan nightly, varying doses. I don't believe I ever seizured though it sure as hell felt like it at times. I have heard xanax withdrawal is over much quicker than, say, valium because of its longer half life.. think that's true? Also heard length of use isn't really relevant once you've built tolerance - as I did pretty quickly I believe.

The relearning social nuances and rediscovering values and beliefs is a very scary one to me which leaves me thinking if it's not like a permanent damage. I was very much in touch with all my opinions, thoughts, feelings, etc etc. but I completely lost touch with myself and wonder if I ever get to feel like myself and get to enjoy and feel my passions as I once did.

I respect you so much for sticking through and making it, man. I hope you feel better and like your pre-benzo self. How long have you been off now?

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13331721]

>>13331691
Shorter half life usually means shorter WD's, I was fucked by klonopin much worse than xan. The xans are like sharp and fast, the klonipin is slow and valium is too - they end up stored in your fat cells and released over the course of months.

You can beef up your sensitivity to the benzos you're still taking and soften things a bit by taking 2 TAGAMET HB and if you can, a glass of golden grapefruit juice, one hour before. This will noticeably lengthen the half life and push more 'Pam past yer blood brain barrier, too. In fact, grapefruit juice (ESPESH golden) is not served in hospitals anymore for this reason. Tagamet, a proton pump inhibitor like prevacid, blocks up the calcium channel networks that your body uses to metabolize benzos. Also, take a tums or two BEFORE your benzos, acidic conditions make you metabolize most drugs way faster.

Everything you're experienceing with shame, memory loss, confusion, despair, perceived lifelong dependence? IT'S ALL A LIE. I PROMISE.

I personally feel that Xanax was created to addict. It's the end result of a drug research program that started in the 50's with a drug called "MilTown". It was the rolling stones' "mother's little helper".

They been refining and beefing up that drug all this time, to the point where the OG benzo is like a pale imitation of what we get from a two bar or 4 mg's of sublingual ativan.

And there's evidence the companies lied about addiction, obv. I read an abstract in a paper that helped get Xanax FDA approval. IT CLAIMS THAT XANAX PERMANENTLY CURES ANXIETY. SERIOUSLY...

Is it any wonder that "Xanax" itself is a palindrome? not to me. Xanax leads only into more xanax. Always. Higher doses, supporting benzos, microwithdrawal. It's always been fucked.

It's just very well marketed.

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13331723]

>>13331721
There's only a few docs WORLDWIDE who are preaching the dangers of the benzos. The best is Claire Ashton, who invented the taper protocol you're using right now. Google her.

Dmg only seems permanent, u gon be fine if you're devoted to changing yourself. Oddly enough, I never craved the drug as I was kicking it, and I've kicked heroin cold - as a 19 year old. The sheer grinding neverending despair, however....

I hated that worse than Heroin WD's

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13331728]

Oh, and you're fine. Sty strong, soldier. Read a lotta books. you may find movies drive you insane.

And thank you. It was the most difficult and painful experience I ever had, but it's totally divorced from my emotions, just a wall of misery and pain without reason.

[Anonymous No.13331735]

>>13331517
>>13331721
Not the guy you're replying to but this shit is interesting as hell; any recs for neurobilology and psychology of hard drugs?

t. hyper-oxygenated dilettante

[Anonymous No.13331740]

>>13331735
Should mention the most interesting part for me is the philosophical implications.

[Anonymous No.13331747]

start taking it everyday, then join me in AA

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13331750]

>>13331735
What are you looking to do? I'm actually full of potentiation tricks. You can potentiate cocaine with small doses of alcohol. ALL opiates get stronger with a benzo. Big time. Take 3-4 tums before you eat that speed, it'll last longer and burn harder. %-HTTP and glucosamine, in addition to a single SSRI (I forget the safe ones, don't try this) will skyrocket your ecstasy trip. Pot takes you down off of deliriants like DiPhen. Thorazine or OG antipsychotics counteract acid. I;m told a k-hole can be softened with chocolate but only pussies are afraid of k holes. God is a blast to chill out with.
I find neurochem amazing. Fascinating.
what else?

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13331757]

>>13331747
I saw an old guy in an AA meeting (Oh shit, I went to some when I was 23-24, it's crap and I actually pray anyway), and he was a benzo addict. His clueless fucking korean war vet sponsor convinced him to flush his ENTIRE TAPER SUPPLY.
He then proceeded to stay awake for a week straight and have a grand mal seizure right next to me. Hadda do CPR, but it was just a cover for me to slip a 1mg xan into his mouth because I'm not a fucking puritanical moron who can't into science

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13331759]

>>13331757
Oh, yeah, the ambulance took him away ten minutes later, and emts called his sponsor an idiot. I Never saw him again.

[Anonymous No.13331771]

>>13331750
I used to dable in that kind of knowledge when I was like 18-19 and taking more hard stuff but now I just love how the implications and effects of hard drug use forces re-evaluation of so many moral/identity conceptions of what human nature actually is (like the 'identity' reset you're talking about with the other guy). I love the tension between the transient machine like quality of a human compared with the intense spiritual driven purpose that that kind of knowledge forces you to understand, and drugs are just so ubiquitous and present in every day life or for every person that it's just a physical reality and not some abstract argument.

I guess what my ass-speaking is getting at is that it's less the hard neurochem shit that I'm interested in as the more the 'how does the effects of WD and the taking of drugs connect to the understanding of human nature'.

[Anonymous No.13331776]

>>13331721
Thank you very much.
Yeah I've done my fair share of research.. and what you say sounds very true. Shocking but true. I don't live in America myself where it seems like much more of an epidemic (how fucked up is it that it gets advertised there?!).
I no longer use after my taper and have ZERO desire to ever start again. Ever.

>>13331728
>Oh, and you're fine. Sty strong, soldier. Read a lotta books. you may find movies drive you insane.
Yeah it's hard to enjoy anything anymore. I can only intellectually take stuff in, so I'll try to read more books.. my emotions are just fear, misery, anger 24/7.. Even music is hard to enjoy nowadays which was my #1 passion..

>And thank you. It was the most difficult and painful experience I ever had, but it's totally divorced from my emotions, just a wall of misery and pain without reason.

So you can feel your emotions clearly now? Or did you mean to type "it's totally divorced me from my emotions"? Still after these months?

How long are you off now? When was your last ever dose? You say it took you 6 months to feel better/get out of withdrawal. I'm happy to hear that. I guess since I tapered with valium it will take me a bit longer to get out of withdrawal... though I did only use for a couple of months rather than years.

>>13331757
That's nightmare material man, damn. Sorry you had to witness all of that.

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13331789]

>>13331771
I'm fascinated by the same. WD's from Heroin or Alcohol or Benzos will either break you or harden you. They're very heavy experiences, all consuming to the point of bordering on spiritual. This explains a lot of AA's mindset to me, but that's another shitpost...

Multiple experiences with withdrawals of a very unpleasant nature have left me with flexible ethics - I'm more accepting of a lot of things, but the things I won't accept, like certain behaviors or toxic people? I'm a lot LESS tolerant of that stuff. All of it.

I've been left with far higher levels of introspection. The experience of WD's forces you to explore the darkest parts of yourself. All that nasty shit, you face it, you dream it, you can't escape it. When you finally do come out the other end, if you're smart you'll see a lot of patterns and behaviors in yourself and others that you will recognize as leading to a situation where you might pick up again.

Ideologically, withdrawing multiple times has given me little patience for 3-4th wave feminists, SJWs, Racists, abusive types whose terrified SOs are wearing a "please fucking help me" expression.

I have lost faith in the establishments I was always told would protect me. They didn't/ Not once. I faced it all. it was the medical establishment who told me I would die of alcohol at 23 if I did not accept God (I ALREADY DO THAT, WTF????). It was doctors who demanded - literally - I begin medicating seizures and panic attacks with benzos, which destroyed a large piece of my life.

I realize that I'm on my own, but I realize that I can beat anything if I devote myself to it. I quit 3 drugs that kill and control millions annually. And I did so ALONE - I left AA and succeed alone).

I'm also much more empathetic when I speak with people now. I see a lot of subtext in every action. PAIN is a prelude to AWAKENING.

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13331791]

>>13331776
I've been off two months 100%, I'm just getting back my humanity. My friends and senpai say I'm a totally different and better person than I was a year ago.

[Anonymous No.13331807]

>>13331791
Good to hear man, you're a fucking warrior. Before this I never knew humans could suffer this much torture on earth.. inhuman, really.

So what did you timeline look like? You're 100% clean now since 2 months? Earlier you said you were 6 months off xanax? A little confused now. Really just interested in your overall time line and experience.

Glad to hear you feel like you're getting back your humanity. Hope mine returns anytime soon.

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13331815]

>>13331807
I started a really extreme taper that took 9-10 months. I was on a huge dose. I wasn't gonna do a year long WD because FUCK NO, so I went through with, as you said, an experience before which I never knew humans could suffer this much torture on earth.

I'm two months after the taper ended. Wasn't really a taper near the midpoint, I said FUCK THIS SHIT and just hallucinated and seized for three days. I resumed taper at a lower dose and then lost my cool and cold turkeyed it again. I lost a chunk of memory, but I remember the exact moment I was clear. It was a distinct moment. I can see clearly now the rain is gone. That sorta feel.

I still have concussion related problems, but CBD heavy weed has it under wraps like NOTHING! perfect solution.

I'm still slow with numbers and socially retarded even more than usual. It's getting better, tho.
I would not have sex with a goddess for ten million dollars right now, tho - I couldn't deal with all that touch. Xans leave you raw because they deadened you for so long.

[Anonymous No.13331834]

>>13331815
Just for fun can you write a paragraph on how moment to moment living is on a shitload of xanax?

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13331880]

>>13331834
Picture's worth a thousand words.

I also can't describe it. It seems fun in retrospect, but the wreckage of your life is not. Even if you never fought a cop, you probably said some heartless shit you don't remember.
One of my boys owns a local nightspot, and knew me before and after. Apparently I told off a lot of people and was perpetually "down for whatever."

Just DGAF all that much BUT I was still scared inside, a lot! That inner tension is an artifact of the drug itself.

[Anonymous No.13331905]

take as many as you want
as long as you die and we have less degenerates in the world:)

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13331910]

>>13331905
they don't work like that. You can become an addict and never once get high on 'em. They are literally dependency creating machines.

[Anonymous No.13332205]

>>13328751
>Listens to Lil Gnar and Lil Xan
>"Lil Pump is an artist for the youth ffs oldheads."
>Wears Grateful Dead shirts, doesn't know a song
>"Kurt Cobain was revolutionary." Knows only teen spirit
>Old Skool Vans
>Washed Denim's
>Twitter name "goth baby 666"
Yeah uh.

[Anonymous No.13332417]

>>13328751
>>13328777
Everybody dissing him even though he’s right. /fa/ is full of stupid, immature young guns. Xanax will ruin your life. Why gamble? Your existential dread at existence from puberty will pass in a few years. You’d be wise to listen to the tripfag on this one

[Anonymous No.13332451]

>>13332417
>has to go on anon to defend himself
Sad!

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13332503]

>>13332451
Fuck you nigger, I don't play that and if you had the skills to check individual poster IPs you'd see we're not the same person.

Go eat a handful of bars if you don't like it. Pasty little fuck.

>>13332417
Part of me feels like it's evolution in action. Look at this thread. You want these kids breeding? God bless the benzos, let 'em all book a one way flight to lil peep's neck of the woods

[Anonymous No.13332513]

>>13332503
SEETHING

[Anonymous No.13332516]

>>13328751
i just use ,5 few days ina a month to avoyd addiction or tolerance.

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13332529]

>>13332513
absolutely. I nearly bought it quitting benzos.

[Anonymous No.13332533]

>>13332529
>I nearly bought it quitting benzos.
What a shame. I like the idea of you dead, rotting in a filthy alley somewhere after you o.d.

[Anonymous No.13332542]

>>13330146
>>13330130
stop talking about pheni you fucking retards, don't want it to become like kratom.

[Anonymous No.13332554]

>>13328751
get rid of that shit /now/

I know several friends who completely ruined their lives with that shit.

[Anonymous No.13332690]

>>13330310
Nah, really bad for your brain and heart. Even occasional use is not ideal. I just smoke a blunt to myself every few months or so, drink a bit at parties though that's only because I go to uni in the south, I will also smoke if weed is offered to me by my friends at their place.

But yeah I had my experiences with hard drugs and decided to get out while the getting is good.

but yeah don't idealize coke because it's expensive, that's super childish and gay.

Shrooms are great too, make you feel amazing in the afterglow, one of the few drugs that don't make you feel like shit after you come down, something coke does in SPADES

[Anonymous No.13332833]

>>13332690
Being effay has nothing to do with health. I don't recommend cocaine, but it is the most aesthetically pleasing and timelessly fun drug. Also I lied, there are two effay drugs, and cigarettes are the other one. If you're going by health it's Shrooms>other psychedelics>high CBD weed strains>tea>coffee>chocolate>normal weed>literally everything else isn't even worth ranking

[Anonymous No.13332877]

[Anonymous No.13332939]

>>13328751
xanax is fucking gay

[Anonymous No.13333552]

>>13332833
Speed is effay too, I snorted a high dose and couldn't stop dancing. The comedown is HORRIBLE though

[Anonymous No.13334085]

>>13328751
don't do this shit man, I've seen it ruin so many people's minds

[Anonymous No.13334163]

>>13332833
>Being effay has nothing to do with healt
why do you think shrooms are better than say, LSD?

[Anonymous No.13334384]

I have a few bars knocking about for hangovers or if I want a hazy afternoon every month or so

But no, it's not /fa/. Only 14yr old hypekids think it is.

It WILL fuck you up if you use it with any regularity.

[Anonymous No.13334431]

>>13330199

Were you this unhinged before or after your addiction

guessing before

[Anonymous No.13334485]

>>13328751
on klonopin and etiz rn, caffeine and spliffs in the mix. perfect combo for having just a mellow night in with small group of friends.
benzos are fucking quality
obviously need to be careful, i limit to 3 times a week

[Anonymous No.13334488]

>>13332833
>not thinking some clean md or amphetamine are fa
pleb desu. never been to any proper techno parties I assume

[Anonymous No.13334491]

THEY ARE FA BUT ONLY IF YOU ARE IN CONTROL AND LIMIT YOUR USE.
BEING A BARTARD IS NOT FA, HOWEVER MODERATE USE CAN BE FA

[Anonymous No.13334509]

>>13328751
I logged on to on to /fa/ to check the sleazecore thread but here I am

[Anonymous No.13334996]

>>13328799
I'll echo this.

Bennzos are the worst drugs in the world.

Theyre impossible to do in moderation.

They destroy your brain and soul.

You can die from the withdrawal.

STOP!

[Anonymous No.13334998]

>>13329392
are they the blue pills, sold in asia right? i got fucking nothing from them

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13335329]

>>13334431
I guess before. I was told that it's mostly a result of head trauma and concussions and shit.

[Anonymous No.13335473]

>>13330592
ooof ow that's so edgy owie

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13335499]

>>13334509
That is fucking nightmare fuel. So much bad shit can come outta that sheer quantity. It's power, it's money. The chaos it's all gonna cause? Wow.

[Anonymous No.13335513]

>>13334996
not true, i was taking half a bar a day for like a month or 2 then stopped like nothing. i never moved up to a full bar or multiple bars, some i understand how people can slip down that slope but not everyone is that weak, just took it recreationally

[Anonymous No.13335561]

>>13328751
Bro ive seen close friends go down that road and lose their minds and livelihood. I experimented with it a little and decided not to follow the same path. Dont do it

[Anonymous No.13336355]

If you're gonna do xans don't drink while you're on them. That's my two cents.

[Anonymous No.13336452]

>>13328777
>namefag is the only smart person in the thread

You know what, don’t even listen to him. Just off yourselves and remove yourselves from the gene pool

[Anonymous No.13336466]

when i found a steady supple of etizolam i blacked out for two weeks. my early to mid 20s were a waste.

[Anonymous No.13336840]

>>13330515
another MNfag and can confirm
even in the suburbs kids can get fucked over it aint a joke

[Anonymous No.13336863]

If you have a respectable amount of will power to and can refrain from taking them every day go for it. Everyones body responds differently to drugs, so take all of the advice here with a grain of salt.

[Anonymous No.13338121]

>>13336863
No dude, don't think you're stronger than drugs. Drugs are stronger than anyone, don't fool yourself for a second...

[Anonymous No.13338139]

>>13328751
I used to take Xanax for serious anxiety, but I'm not very impulsive so I handled it well. I switched to propanolol and I like it much better. I can still feel bad feels but the sweating, blushing, eye darting, slurred speech, etc is pretty much gone. I take low dose kratom some days too.

[Anonymous No.13338926]

>>13333552
That's why you snort coke

[Anonymous No.13338945]

>>13331880
+1 on the saying heartless shit thing. i said some really fucked up things to a lot of people i cared about when i was heavy on xanax. you can apologize when you're sober all you want to but it never takes back the shit you said from pent up years of anger or whatever. my ex got it the harshest and i still feel pretty bad about it regardless if shes a huge bitch or not lmfao

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13338951]

>>13338945
It reduces you to an automaton driven by yer lizard brain's basest demands.
Sorry about yer missus. I've alienated a lot of people, myself.

[Anonymous No.13339999]

>>13328777
this guy is 100% right, its easier to stop now then when your brains wired to them and then you will wish youd never done them.

[Anonymous No.13340009]

>>13328751
my friend died doing this shit. not even a large dose but was drinking.
dont drink and take xan, unless you are trying to kill yourself

[Anonymous No.13340029]

>>13338121
This. I get addicted to shit super easy. I didn't get past weed before I got addicted, now I've smoked nearly daily for 2 years now.

[Anonymous No.13340093]

where the fuck do i find sellersfor this shit theyre flakey and weird as fuck on cragislist

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13340098]

>>13340093
Really are set on destroying your brain forever, huh?

[Anonymous No.13340275]

>>13328751
One of my best friends was on every drug and drank every day. Xanax is what caught up to him. He's alive, but he's not the same. Always brings up Xanax whenever I see him at least once. You can tell it's always on his mind. He's a husk.

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13340279]

>>13340275
Sounds right on the mark. Shameful how this shit is less controlled than grass.

[Anonymous No.13340489]

Nice font, avoid Xans

[Anonymous No.13340504]

hell yeah on a lot of amphetamine, took some kpins and smoking weed. this mix is heaven senpai, music is incredible everyone should check it out tbhhh

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13340534]

Pic Related: The last thing that Lil' Peep ever saw.

[Anonymous No.13341160]

>>13331750

Do you have any potentiation etc. tricks for caffeine?

[Anonymous No.13341177]

>>13328751
Tell your doctor you are worried about forming an addiction
and asked to be swtiched to Klonopin which is less sedating and not really all that addictive

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13341466]

>>13341160
No, I hate the stuff.
Other stimulants benefit from calcium based antacids, however.

[Anonymous No.13341478]

>>13328751
Doing it every once in a while is fine, but I would say it might possibly be the least FA drug..

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13341480]

>>13341177
Klons are far harder to escape than xans, albeit less sought out by most drug users. they bindi to receptor sites tighter and longer than xanax. The half life of klonopin is like 6-8 hours. Xan is 3-4. The suffering gets dragged out so much longer when you're trying to quit.

[Anonymous No.13341502]

I'm a therapist and like half the young adults I treat for addiction are hooked on Xans.
They're the perfect short term solution for anxiety because they immediately relieve any sort of anxiety you feel.
But the long term effects make your brain extremely maladapted to coping with anxiety.
Have a good time taking a bunch and precipitating an anxiety or panic disorder you didn't have before, lawl.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_long-term_benzodiazepine_use

Oh, and one of my patients had tachycardia, uncomfortably elevated heartrate of 100bpm, persist for months after getting sober for it. Good times.

[Anonymous No.13341995]

Quick one for you guys recommending CBD, does it have any psychoactive effects? Also, does it show up on drug tests? I would assume it does not make you test positive for THC, but I'm paranoid due to my job.


My two cents on phenibut...
It made me feel content and relaxed at 750-1250mg, above that it kinda turned me into an emotionless, sedated robot, similar to high doses of benzos. I enjoyed it at "lower" doses, and especially enjoyed the duration (6-8+ hours). I didn't mind the extremely delayed onset either (2-4 hours), I'd pop some in the morning and know I'd have a chill day.

I started out taking it weekly, usually Friday or Saturday, then eventually got to taking 250-500mg on Sunday to taper a bit. Once, I did an every-other-day binge for a week I was on vacation. A lot of people on Youtube (possibly pheni shills?) don't mention withdrawals, or say you're fine if you limit it to 2-3 times a week. I noticed withdrawals taking it once a week, nothing crazy, but I'd be pretty depressed Monday and start feeling normal by Thursday, the whole time anticipating my next dose. I ended up stopping after 2 months of that twice weekly schedule.

I'd recommend being about as careful with it as benzos. I haven't touched it in months (it's still sitting in my cabinet), but I wouldn't rule out taking it for a special occasion (plane flight, wedding or other prolonged social event, bringing along some for a weekend of debauchery with friends). I'd been previously dependent on benzos, so I recognized the familiar signs of habituation and withdrawal. It can be tricky to recognize it, due to the delayed onset of both the drug and withdrawals.

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13342037]

>>13341995
No, not really. Keeps me even keeled, actually.

I don't think so, those test look for THC metabolites.

Phenibut will skullfuck you very quickly if you try to use it on a regular basis. Very quickly.

Be Safe, anon. Took me forever to figure out I could choose to be comfortable in my own skin.

[Anonymous No.13342661]

>>13341995

CBD has no psychoactive effects, its why it's not a scheduled drug. You can even buy it some places OTC at like gas stations. In Oregon they just had a CBD beer fest.

[Anonymous No.13342672]

>start getting really bad social anxiety
>start taking xans to cope
>start taking xans everytime i have to deal with peopel
>start taking xans to relax after work
>6 months later, living completely on xans, no memory of the last 6 months
>get sick if i dont take several xanax a day, cant sleep without it
>hair starts falling out, lose a ton of weight
>zombified, lose all my friends
>start missing work all the time because of withdrawal, coming in late because of blacking out
>destroy my house, cut open my head, crash my car, lose a bunch of money while blacked out
>go through withdrawal and relapse for another six months, almost ending up in a mental asylum
Yeah not worth it, worst year of my life by far. Im only a couple months clean and its a whole new world.

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13342700]

>>13342672
I'm sorry you had to experience all that garbage. The "gradual unhinging" of the mind, loss of friends, unexplainable catastrophes and vanishing memories. That you capped all that off with a psych ward and managed to pull through is a major testament to your will.
Much respect. You're lucky to have made it out, even if you got knocked around as you made your exit.

[Anonymous No.13342988]

>>1333019 if your life is so amazing, why ars you on here 24/7

[Anonymous No.13342996]

>>13330199
Why do you spend 10 Hours a day on here then?
Maybe with all that money you can buy some class...

[Pseudo Intellectual No.13343057]

>>13342996
Real Estate is all "Hurry Up and Wait" sometimes. I usually put in 18-20 days out of each month actually doing shit.
The rest are for writing music , reading books and bothering you.

[Anonymous No.13343064]

>>13328751
They ruined my mom’s life and killed her.

[Anonymous No.13343101]

>>13341995
CBD does not only have zero psychoactive effects but it also lessens the anxiety / paranoia caused by THC. In your case you'd take pure CBD, so it wouldn't matter, but it's significant for people who want to take THC for medical use but don't want / can't handle the spooks it causes to some people (cancer patients for example). They would take a solution ranging from 1:1 to 4:1 CBD:THC, which would allow them to consume both but not experience the paranoia effect that it can sometimes cause.

Usually the pure CBD products are not "pure", they might have few percents of THC. However when you have so great amount of CBD in ratio to THC, the CBD blocks all the receptors so the tiny amount of THC won't be able to enter your system. In short, you good.

[Anonymous No.13343108]

>>13341995
>>13343101
Yep just get the top shelf one and you'll be good:

https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/does-using-cbd-hemp-oil-result-in-a-positive-drug-test-for-thc-or

[Anonymous No.13343461]

>>13343057
>bothering you
ahah ok senpai

[Anonymous No.13343836]

I can barely get by just off cigarettes, grass, and beer. I love those things and i could see myself getting seriously hooked and fucked on heavier stuff.

Would like to try some psychedelics, though. I figure if i can smoke as much weed solidly as i have over the years, i'm not worried about my mind snapping so much anymore.

[Anonymous No.13344027]

>>13330083
graffiti is cool, but doing it on bars is the worst thing ever. I speak from experience.


But that aside if you are a weak minded anxiety riddled little bitch, xanax may actually help you express yourself, otherwise that shit will make you a lifeless zombie. Lost many friends to that shit, they all went down the drain. THANK GOD IM MEDITATING AND HAVE ZERO ANXIETY. Fuck xanax

[Anonymous No.13344035]

>>13328777
Listen to this guy OP.
Benzo's are trash.
They just make you feel sleepy and drunk.

[Anonymous No.13345012]

Bump

[Anonymous No.13345060]

>>13330083
What do you write

[Anonymous No.13345066]

>>13330199
This may be the most embarrassing larp I’ve ever seen
I hope this is pasta