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/fa/s thoughts on H&M?

>> No.13054243
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>>13054241

>> No.13054247

shit quality

>> No.13054256

HE HAS NO STYLE

>> No.13054261

>>13054243
HAHHAHAAHAHAHAHA

>> No.13054329
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I bought pic related last year and it was bleh quality, it developed loose threads the snaps are noisy when unfastened.

It's the first and only thing I'll ever buy from H&M

>> No.13054334

Why can't a black kid like monkeys??

>> No.13054336

>>13054334
This.
Also, monkey is another term we like to use for kids anyway since they are unruly. Things are as racist as people want them to be

>> No.13054361

It's good for basic shit like plain t-shirts or beanies.

>> No.13054368

>>13054334
Because we live in post-obama era america

>> No.13054754

>>13054241
Utter shit
Don't support fast and unsustainable fashion

>> No.13054849

https://twitter.com/Diddy/status/950474809653301258

>WE

>> No.13055002

I buy it if I see it at thrift stores, usually lasts six months to a year and comes in slim fits.

Don't think it'd be worth it new from the 4-5 times I've been in the local chain.

>> No.13055040

>>13054849
lmao someone actually took the time to make this. Dindus will never cease to amaze me

>> No.13055642

>>13054256
HE HAS NO GRACE

>> No.13055673

>americans

>> No.13055676

Guess we ain't post-racial after all huh

>> No.13055677

Niggas just lacking that faith in Christ

>> No.13055681

Shit, I lost a post on Facebook. Some nigga posted an edited picture and the boy had a crown and his hoodie said "Royalty" and under it was the Ankh.

>> No.13055686

>>13055040
there's at least a half dozen more in the comments or whatever they're called on twitter. 200000% powerful

>> No.13055691

>>13054241
on the real, I’m copping

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>> No.13055826

I work at H&M

The hoodies had to be recalled since it created such a shitfest. I tried to buy a few because I know its going to be super rare but it was already too late.
A customer actually took the time to take them off of their rack and throw them on the ground.

>> No.13055837

I bought a zip hoodie there when I broke my collar bone three years ago, I needed something cheap that was arm sling friendly.

Four years later it's still holding up after regular wear as a house hoodie

I don't think I'd buy anything from there again though, just not a fan

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>> No.13055842

Everything that they make is shit, despite what some people will try to tell you. I used to buy t-shirts from them, and the stitching on the sleeves was ALWAYS messed up.

>> No.13055843

>>13054243
why couldn't they just make it "coolest cat in the jungle"?

obviously someone had to realize during the design and production process that this was going to piss off a bunch of people. especially the product shots, how did so many people let something so easily preventable happen?

>> No.13055860

>>13055815
N E G U S
NEGUS

>> No.13055881

The only racists are the ones who rushed to assume that "Coolest Monkey in the Jungle" on a hoodie worn by a black kid is offensive.

>> No.13055884

Quality is shit, all their stuff runs a size small so I can't get anything over-sized (personal preference of course, but in a country like america you'd think they'd at least carry xxl), and I don't like to feed to feed the fast-fashion machine so I tend to stay away. Only thing I've ever bought there was a pair of trousers that ripped in the crotch after a few months.

I don't give a fuck about the monkey shit. I think it's funny how mad everyone got over it. "MUH PC CULTURE" faggots.

But yeah, 2/10 for me.

>> No.13055889

>>13054849
Oh my god. He made it so much worse by posting that. I wish people could just not see race, and that be the end of it. They subject themselves to racism when they do shit like this.

>> No.13055890
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>>13054368
>obama invented racism

The alt-right everybody

>> No.13055936

Even from a purely economic perspective, their products don’t make sense. Why would I pay less to look bad for a far shorter period of time? Besides, I don’t like how almost all of their pieces are cheap pastiches. Zara rips off fashion houses, and H&M rips off Zara. Just buy fewer clothes of better quality, and you won’t look like a poor European art student.

>> No.13055938

>>13055860
BLACK EMPEROR. KING. ROYALTY

>> No.13056294

>>13055838
They should unironically do this desu

It might make the whole situation better

>> No.13056299

>>13055838

it should say cheesiest cracker in the box. i'd wear it

>> No.13056308

>>13056294
its still racism

>> No.13056313

>>13056308
That's the point

Make one for every race. People might start to eat that shit up and buy them ironically. It could start a trend. First they'd have to make grown up versions because I doubt parents would let their kids wear ironically racist shirts.

>> No.13056329

>>13056308
why do you consider it racism in the first scenario, are you perhaps implying black people are closer to monkeys than everyone else and thus should feel offended by the association?

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These kind of things are kinda funny

By being offended by this you can be called a racist in return for thinking that there is a connection between monkey and black people and the person who made this can claim to be so innocent that they didn't find anything racist about it.

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>>13054241
If this is how 2018 is going to start out then Im honestly not surprised if a race war breaks out, I feel like wit the case of that kid that got bullied in school from some fabricated story of him being racist and this, added with all that bullshit about genders and people being overly sensitive about other people and their sexuality will just cause segregation again, just wait.

>> No.13056358

>>13056356
This is exactly what I thought which makes the whole situation so ironic, not only that but this gives actual racism more power.

>> No.13056359

wtf this is racist

>> No.13056363

>>13056357
>H&M fucks up with a graphic hoodie and gets told on le twitter
>RACE WAR IS INCOMING OPEN YOUR EYES SHEEPLE
Never change, /pol/

>> No.13056365

I unironically want one of these.

>> No.13056369

>>13056358
>gives actual racism more power
how so?

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>>13054849

>> No.13056413

why did this particular thing hit such big waves? every fucking where I read about this shit.
it's not like it didn't happen before with the Jew KZ star and the Kent state sweater

>> No.13056433

>>13056413
our fellow citizens of color might be a bit more vocal about their emotions and ~opinions~ than jews or dead people.

>> No.13056474

>>13055815
This is what I call a delusional wokefag

>> No.13056478

>>13055838
It would at least be in good self humor

>> No.13056484

>>13055890
>blatant strawman
nice one

>> No.13056498

>>13055826
also work at hm, our customers tend to take everything off of the rack and throw it on the ground.

>> No.13056523

>>13054241
I have their slim black jeans and jacket. Both are ok. Cheap t-shirts are absolute shite.

>> No.13056533

>asking white people to understand the significance of this

I've been called a monkey a few times in my life. All by white people. Unless you are black I can understand how one might not realize the significance of this. Obviously H&M didn't mean any intentional harm, but that's just it; why didn't they? Is it because their photographers and internet marketers lack people of color who could have stopped this from going public in the first place?

>> No.13056537

>>13056533
>I've been called a monkey a few times in my life. All by white people. Unless you are black I can understand how one might not realize the significance of this.
Boo fucking hoo.

>> No.13056539

>>13055815
WE WUZ KINGS

>> No.13056541

>>13056537
Wasn't asking g for your sympathy. That's your white guilt getting the best of you.

>> No.13056549

>>13056541
I have no white guilt nor sympathy towards crybabies.

>> No.13056567

>>13056549
Congratulations.

>> No.13056595

>>13055843
maybe no one wanted to call out insensitivity for fear of being called racist for noticing. They just pass it up the line and hope someone else will deal with it

>> No.13056600

>>13055890
youre a fucking moron

>> No.13056608

>>13054336
>Also, monkey is another term we like to use for kids anyway since they are unruly.
>Things are as racist as people want them to be

True except that black people don't stopped being called monkey once they reach adult hood. This is where the problem comes in.

Wasn't there an issue with euro soccer fans throwing bananas at players a few years ago?

>> No.13056636

>>13056523
Stop talking about clothes on /fa/ you idiot, this is a race bait thread

>> No.13056638

I can see how it's offensive to some, but the reactions to it over super overdone. Lebron, for example, was going on about how strong us kangz are.

It's just a bad choice of clothing. There's no need to pretend it's a major racial issue.

>> No.13056652

>>13056608
t. american

theres issues every single week with bananas in european matches

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>>13056608
>>13056652
>bananas
get below sea level

>> No.13056662

>>13056652

Not just an american thing. It's more of a, I don't care about sports and only ever hear news about it when there's controversy.

>> No.13056690

Lol and these are the same people that say shit about white fragility? Plenty of parents call their kids monkeys. Goddamn blackies do better

>> No.13056717

>>13056363
im not saying this fucking retard im saying because of how sensitive people are becoming with this kind of stuff it gives racism more power hence making a race war more likely to happen

>> No.13056727

>>13056717
A race war is never going to happen. If anyone saying that would spend one week among people and away from their PC, not locked away from the rest of the world, and actually talk to someone that doesn't look like them in a normal conversation, they'd stop bringing up asinine and fantasy race war.

>> No.13056817

>>13056727
good point tbf

>> No.13056831

this wouldn't be an issue if normies on the internet stopped coming to this site to be conditioned into racism

>> No.13057012

>>13055890
are you retarded?

>> No.13057058

>>13055815
>>13054849
>>>/fa/cringe

>> No.13057109

>>13054241
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the parents of model kids usually be on set? I see fault with H&M but I see more fault with the boys parents for not stopping it

>> No.13057307

>>13056660
based holländer

>> No.13057427

>>13056433
I wonder whose fault that was...

>> No.13057461

>>13055881
>>13055889
well people, in this current day of 2018 with the person we have as the american president, racism is more sensitive than its ever been post slavery, segregation etc...So you really can't blame people for taking offense to a pic of a black boy with "monkey" on his sweater. Taking into consideration that black people were called "monkeys" and other racial slurs for the longest time.

>> No.13057473

>>13054241
Meh quality, but looks nice. I sometimes buy shirts

>> No.13057499

>>13056329
Lmfao you’re such a faggot. It’s because people like you call black people apes anyways. Go back to sucking off aryans >>>/pol/

>> No.13057525

>>13054329
what do you expect for that price you fucking idiot?

>> No.13057893

Some things are better quality than others, I've gotten many great pairs of pants from there that hold up for months. When it comes to designs their basics are pretty good.

>> No.13057993

>>13054336
True, my parents called me their little monkey when I was a kid, still call me monkey from time to time. I loved it, still do

>> No.13058014

>>13057525
Something OK, you rude jackass.

>> No.13058016

>>13054849
I'm honestly fine with the painting, even if I don't see the original H&M as particularly racist, I can still see it as a subversion of the original and most boys got called 'little king' or 'prince' just like girls get called 'princess' or 'queen' or whatever the fuck

Diddy's tweet is the fucking stupid part. It's like they don't understand why other's would be pissed that they are literally claiming they are better

>> No.13058024

>>13054241
>>13057109
There is no 'fault' here. It's 2018. Only in America people freak out over something like this. If the white boy wore that exact same shirt, nobody would have given a shit anyway.

>> No.13058046

>>13054243
Dr Pavel, i'm N.I.G .

>> No.13058058

>>13058046
this made me laugh

>> No.13058068

>>13058046
Truly one of the greatest memes to come out of such a shit board

>> No.13058082

>>13058046
He stole my phone

>> No.13058099

>>13056363
>implying they fucked it up
Please go back to r/mfa

>> No.13058155

>>13054329
w2c something similar in better quality?

>> No.13058165

BLACK FRAGILITY

>> No.13058194

>>13054849
lol

>> No.13058225

>>13056727
>he doesnt have a college level education

if you did you wouldnt dream of saying what you just said. racialism on campuses is out of control. its really an ever present part of life at this point

>> No.13058787

>>13058024
Yes it is 2018
Yes there is fault
Being racist isn't a American thing it's worldwide
But the white boy isn't wearing it the black boy is so it's a problem... enough of the what if please

>> No.13058797

>>13058225
this

>> No.13058976

>>13058225
Your tiny college bubble > the rest of the world

>> No.13059009

>>13058976
>national curriculum
>tiny college bubble

pick 1

>> No.13059140
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people mad that a kid is in a hoodie that says monkey but have no issues with the inhumane sweatshop conditions that the hoodie was manufactured in

>> No.13059147

>>13059140
I think that's just given. Liberals don't reammy care about that sort of stuff, except if there's some campaign against it.

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>>13059140
exactly how these pseudo lefties care when a woman gets called a cunt but dont give a shit about the horrible conditions of women in other parts of the world

>> No.13059231

>>13059147

No one really cares about it., besides the occasional sweat shop worker that scratches a send help note onto the inside of an iphone case. Not even the people in the sweat shop countries seem to care.

>>13059149
This one is different I'm not a feminist but I noticed that when western women started trying to stand up for women in the middle east, the oppressed women told them to fuck off and let them handle their own culture.

>> No.13059235

>>13059231
>No one really cares
Or capitalism, as we call it in french

>> No.13059252

>>13059140
"Sweatshops" was a meme coined by Western labor interests to tarnish outsourced production. In reality children in countries with western factories have an increased standard of living after the factories relocate there. In places where anti-sweatshop campaigns forced companies to close their foreign factories (this happened in Pakistan) people are hit with a suddden and extrene drop in standard of living. An increase in child prostitution often follows.

>> No.13059257

>>13059252
I really like this shit

>We need to stop child labor!
Well how the fuck are they gonna make money then lmao

>> No.13059260

>>13059252
>>13059257
We should bring back sweatshops in europe too

>> No.13059310

Its literally not racist. Obviously being used in a pet name manner, like cheeky monkey or that. Surely would be more racist for the photographer to say "Nah i cant take a photo of that kind in the hoodie because hes black sorry" Typical black twitter to blow fuck out of nothing. The fact the weekend is pulling his line to is fucking mental.

>>13056498
Kek

>> No.13059340

Why didnt the kid say anything in the first place?
Oh blacks can't fucking read.

>> No.13059351

>>13059340
Why he should, not everybody is a racist brainlet.

>> No.13059353

>>13059340
kekk

>> No.13059356

>>13059340
Anon, you're so funny and original, absolute genius, how do (You) come up with it?

>> No.13059664

>>13055838
Gonna be honest here, nobody gives a fucking shit about the word "cracker" as an epithet. The only people who ever bring it up are white soccer moms and pale, delusional fatties going, "but THEY have a word for US, too, so it's equal right?" It's nonsense. Words don't just develop connotations out of nowhere like that.
If somebody called me a cracker I would probably actually laugh. Nobody gives a shit about being called "cracker" except white people who just wanna say the extra spooky dangerous word they're not allowed to use, and nobody mythologises it like they do either. It's hysterical.

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>>13054849
???

>> No.13059981

>>13054241
This shirt made me realize that I don't care about anyone's plight but my own and I'm okay with that. The world is small and stupid. Fuck this dumb shit.

Just thought you all should know

>> No.13060034

>>13059981
what plight

>> No.13060040

>>13054241
dont really care

>> No.13060341

>>13055843
lack of diversity in the workplace probably, I'd be shocked if there were a few African Americans that worked on this and it still got passed on.

>> No.13060355

>>13058155
Try looking for field jackets.

>> No.13060357

>>13057499
you didn't answer my question and proceeded to chimp out, how fitting

>> No.13060366

Uniqlo was always better

>> No.13060372
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I see my marketing gimmick is doing well

>> No.13060390

What a racist company! How can they compare black kids with monkeys, totally not cool, totally slandering!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee8-wRHCCg4

>> No.13060424

>>13054849
>WUZ

>> No.13060433

>>13054241
saw this on the news and thought it was stupid. H&M obviously didn't mean to offend anybody, and the phrase and piece themselves aren't inherently racist, so the fact that blacks choose to be offended mean that they want it to be about race. its annoying and another example of how misguided african american equality activists are. if the sweatshirts were switched, there would zero issue.

>> No.13060443

>>13060433
oh and the news station also showed a twitter reply where someone drew a crown and said "ALL I SEE IS A YUNG KANG." give me a break, its just so stereotypical.

>> No.13060496

>>13059664
You are literally the only one who complained about it.

>> No.13060577

>>13054329
I bought that same jacket for $5 on clearance. Waxed it and its my favorite now

>> No.13061198

imagine actually thinking a sweatshirt is racist

>> No.13061312

>>13060496
Wow great argument fagtron way to convince me with those hot opinions

>> No.13061513

>>13060433
theyre not misguided they get paid based on how much outrage they can cause, you don't actually think people like al sharpton give a shit about other black people do you?

>> No.13061535

>>13060433
this

If you think about it, when they designed the shirt they probably didn't see the connection because they just though "a kid is going wear this who likes animals"

but then the marketing department says "we need to have a white kid and black kid and asian kid so we reach a wider audience", then suddenly you see the shirt you designed on a black kid and if you have any second thoughts about your design by then it's too late