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11722330 No.11722330 [Reply] [Original]

For how long will patches be a thing?
They are getting popular at my country and I'm thinking about creating a brand and selling some...

>> No.11722367

fashion is unpredictable bruh

>> No.11722370

band patches will always be popular. not sure about anything else.

>> No.11722394

if your country is full of tumblr fags then yes go ahead

>> No.11722484

how do u even make patches especially velcro ones

>> No.11722494

>>11722484
I don't know about the ones with velcro, but you can easily make patches with a simple embroidery machine and some practice

>> No.11722506
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11722506

I just bought these I probably fucked up but whatever

>> No.11722515
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11722515

>>11722506

from the back

>> No.11722590

I think they are going to stick around for 2-3 years...

>> No.11722601

>>11722506
6/10

>> No.11722618

>>11722506
>not customizing your denim with personal patches that mean something
you are killing fashion

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>>11722330
I think of it like decals on a 1992 Geo Tracker, the official car of /fa/ . you want a couple to accent the look of your tracker, but you don't want to overshadow the greatness of the car.

>> No.11722753

>>11722506
HAHAHA jfc you should of just throwing your money in toilet.

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>>11722506
>>11722515

>> No.11722904

>>11722855
these are genuinely disgusting.

>> No.11722910

>>11722904
it just looks that way, i think he rubbed paint and motor oil into them, notice the clean blue waistband on the inside of the most right pair?

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11723898

I feel like it's inevitable that civilian clothing will start coming with velcro spots so you can stick morale patches on it.
Brands will probably create their own civilian morale patches too. Collabs with bands, movies etc.

It'd be kind of like DLC for your clothes and bags.

>> No.11723933

>>11722506
>>11722515
just a poor quality ripoff of Blackmeans
they are bad and you should feel bad

>> No.11723937

>>11722910
and how the most of the patches are pristine

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>>11722855
>>11722904
fake crust gear truly is disgusting, they have good japanese noisecore patches though which i appreciate

here are mine after 1,150+ days of daily wear and 1 wash after they got covered in poison ivy oil
If anyone has any questions about them or wants me to post more pics i will gladly

please don't try to emulate this look unless you're actually punk or into DIY ethics, you'll just look like you're trying too hard.

>> No.11724384

idk i hope they're gone soon every single store in the mall sells patches and pins its lost any kind of appeal

>> No.11724476

>>11724379
How do you have to patience to keep up with them? I have a pair that just gets holes in the crotch/ass too much for me to bother.

>> No.11724495

>>11722658
lol.

I want one now. I like what you are doing, man.

>> No.11724533

>>11724379
do you have a job

>> No.11724545

Is there anything like adult girl scout patches? WTC?

>> No.11724583

>>11724379
you sound like one of those muh true scotsman skaterfags
thats also absolutely disgusting
why voluntarily smell and look like literally a garbage can
its not even like lol rick owens is literally clown shoes
its that youre wearing the inside of an old ass trashcan as overalls

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This is now /patch/

Patch general master post:
Ebay, etsy, aliexpress and invididual bigcartels are your best shot. There is no one single perfect website that has all the good stuff. Wade through the shit to find what you need. That said, you can check out the following links for cool stuff
Bigcartel / Websites:
http://www.storenvy.com/stores/287090-mokuyobi-threads
http://ballandchainco.com
http://innerdecay.bigcartel.com/category/patches
http://gypsywarrior.com/accessories/pins-patches.html
http://dagobahtraders.bigcartel.com/category/patches
http://adipocere.bigcartel.com/
http://lukedrozd.bigcartel.com/category/badges
http://www.hallowsociety.bigcartel.com/category/patches
http://www.lilbullies.com/collections/patches
http://ancientaliens.bigcartel.com/
http://www.creepycompany.com/
http://www.deathtraitors.com/shop/
http://deathhellgrave.bigcartel.com/category/patches
http://wirsinddietoten.bigcartel.com/product/
http://expeditioncollectibles.com/shop/mt-fuji-patch/
http://feeluxheavensgate.bigcartel.com/
http://expeditioncollectibles.com/product-category/patches/
http://www.shopfreeradicals.com/
http://www.nofuturesoftgoods.bigcartel.com/
https://www.etsy.com/shop/monstersoutside
http://sadtruthsupply.com/
http://www.patchtown.com/
http://www.awesomemerchandise.com/Products/All-Products/Patches
http://disorderlygoods.com/merit-badges/
http://www.ziero.bigcartel.com/products
http://centraldogma.bigcartel.com/
https://weaponsgradewaifus.com/collections/all?page=1

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I really wanna make or commission a back patch of pic related but I live in the UK and can't find anywhere that will do something like this for me

>> No.11724946

>>11724379
>said the oogle

>> No.11724960

>>11722855
these pants are from the guys in contrast attitude

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Just got these. Thinking if i should put both on my bag or not

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11725391

Are we allowed to post about pins in this thread? I don't know how I feel about the permanence of patches.

I like some of the inner decay pins, where else to buy them?

>> No.11725403

>>11725391
usually you can find pins where you can find patches. i'm not really a fan of them because they are smaller and easier to lose, but more expensive than patches. innerdecay is a nice shop though, they ship fast and their patches are great quality.

>> No.11725651

>>11724379
Can wee see them on?

>> No.11725664

>>11724379
need to see it from another angle

>> No.11726192
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11726192

Covered up some holes with these on black denim

>> No.11726636

>>11723686
w2c

>> No.11727415

>>11725303
how does the bag look?

>> No.11727432
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11727432

>>11722506
Those are the Dolce ones right?


I just picked up the Gucci ones and the Dolce bird ones this week!

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11727521

>>11724379

thanks for wearing this type of shit so i know who to completely avoid and not make eye contact with here in PDX

>> No.11727526

>>11725303
Where'd you order these from? Etsy?

>> No.11727559

>>11724476
They don't break THAT often, I try to only use real tough material and patches that are big enough to cover the entirety of a problem area

>>11724533
I do odd jobs for some extra cash sometimes, but i'm actually trying to get a job so i can get a van for me and my s/o though : 3

>>11724583
What? this comment
My aesthetic is a result of my behavior and ideology, and i also like the way it looks. Sorry that doesn't interest you.

>>11727521
I get along with basically everybody who isn't a horrible bigot. It's nice that you access who you should and shouldn't talk with based on appearance though, that's gonna get u really far in life ; )

>>11725651
>>11725664
Sure, i'll post some more pics in a second! I appreciate the interest, i like talking about my stupid clothes : )

>> No.11727564

>>11727559

i "access" that i shouldn't talk to you because you're going nowhere in your life besides drinking shatterproof 40's on the corner and writing songs about how much you hate bigots who won't let you bum 10 bucks off of them

>> No.11727567

>>11727564
I don't even drink more than once or twice a month
The fact that you make assumption like that based on my appearance show how ineffective it is.

>> No.11727571

>>11727559

if you're so DIY why aren't you building your own van instead of buying one

why don't you and your buddies DIY that proletariat revolution

>> No.11727574

>>11727571
Because i don't have the skill set or materials to do that maybe?

Also maybe because revolution in the first world isn't vaguely feasible?
pls into post structuralism

>> No.11727582

>>11727574
>revolution in the first world isn't vaguely feasible?

so explain how the Arab Spring worked in which disarmed and disenfranchised people unilaterally fucked shit up

oh right, it's because they aren't pussies who value "good vibes" and "aesthetics" over taking the future into their own hands

>> No.11727593

>>11727582
Since when is the middle east the first world?

Imperialist powers in global capitalism purposefully give minor concessions to people living in the first world to buy out their class interest.

I would gladly participate in a revolution, but in the united states, which is where i currently live there simply isn't a willingness to because of the reason i listed above.
Also most of my friends, and myself, semi regularly-regularly participate in direct action, so..

>> No.11727605

>>11727593

I didn't say they were first world, I said the means to carry out a revolution were even further from the hands of Egyptians and Syrians in 2010

americans are within arms reach of hardware and disgrunted military personnel that would have the job done in 10 months

>> No.11727611

>>11727605
See, but it isn't an issue of access to resources, you're misunderstanding my point. It's an issue of DESIRE.

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>>11725651
>>11725664

>> No.11727633

>>11727613
I'll post more later maybe i'm lazy and wanna spend time with my friends

>> No.11727635

>>11727611

ok stay irrelevant

>> No.11727693

>>11722506
jesus fuck

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>>11727613
I can smell these through my computer

>> No.11727750

>>11727593
>semi regularly-regularly participate in direct action
I wish McCarthyism was still a thing

>> No.11728271

How about pins? I copped some vintage pins and I'd like to put them on a my denim jacket. Too 80's or punk?

>> No.11728281

>>11728271
And a few one inch buttons I picked up.

>> No.11728385

>>11727567

> "My aesthetic is a result of my behavior and ideology,"
> "The fact that you make assumption like that based on my appearance show how ineffective it is."

Dungarees and living in a van is true dedication to crack-chic

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11728393

>>11727415
This but completely dark blue

>> No.11728394

>>11727593

You are aware that Marx himself described people like you as the "lumpen-proletariat" aka "underclass".

He called for your sort to be eliminated by the proletariat in an anti-capitalist revolution as you would be at the best a leach upon a marxist society and at worst an obsticle to achieving it.


You literally subscribe to an ideology that wants you eliminated.

>> No.11729238

>>11728394
Marx was wrong on SO many things. Not everything, but a lot of stuff.

Also i'm not a marxist, so, no conflict there.

>> No.11729322

>>11728394
I'm also VERY interested in working towards revolution and attempt to do so on a daily basis by, as i said above, participating in direct action and spreading information about libertarian socialism.
Also he asserts that people in similar positions to mine, the "lumpen proletariat" can not achieve class consciousness, which is obviously total bullshit.

>> No.11729334

>>11729322
>I'm also VERY interested in working towards revolution and attempt to do so on a daily basis by, as i said above, participating in direct action and spreading information about libertarian socialism
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAHA

W E W L A D
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W
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>> No.11729341

>>11729334
if ur the same person i was talking to before, you do realize if u present information to me which contradicts or shows contradictions in my ideology i'd be more than willing to change my mind.

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>>11727559
>My aesthetic is a result of my behavior and ideology
>but you shouldn't judge me based on appearance bigot!

>>11727582
>actually believing Arab Spring was a "Twitter revolution" and not extremely astroturfed Western power play despite no one even trying to hide it
>Egypt is first world
Will lolbertarians ever learn?

>> No.11729364

>>11729341
I am not and I'm not interested in engaging with anyone dumb enough to go deep enough down the delusional feel-good utopia rabbit hole to reach libsoc. The only place you have left is anarchocommunism, just go ahead and get there so we can all have an even bigger laugh, untermensch.

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>>11729362
But the thing is to be able to judge me on my appearance you first need to understand my ideology and my behavior. While my appearance is a result of my ideology and behavior not everyone who looks like me or similar to me will behave the same.

>>11729364
Anarcho communism and libertarian socialism are the same thing you fuckwit. I'm glad you're not the same person though, you don't seem nearly as smart.

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>>11729364
>untermensch
also KYS reactionary scum.
Capitalism and fascism are more feel good bullshit than anarchism and don't actually address social issues in a way which fixes them. It simply worsens them and benefits a tiny elite sector of the population.

>> No.11729458

>>11729322

Tell me about NEET consciousness

What is there to seize when you don't contribute to production?

>> No.11729646

>>11729458
You do realize that collective ownership extends past the people who are immediately using them, just because i don't contribute to production under capitalism doesn't mean anything towards my revolutionary activity or willingness to participate in a revolution.

If i'm aware i'm not participating in production, and am voluntarily choosing to do so doesn't that itself mean i have class consciousness?

>> No.11729654

This thread is why I keep a gun, munition and jars of napalm. You faggots try anything and you'll burn.

>> No.11729662

>>11727582
>so explain how the Arab Spring worked in which disarmed and disenfranchised people unilaterally fucked shit up
1- Not first world
2- Made literally everything worse

>> No.11729686

>>11727582
probably had something to do with the US trying and failing to put capitalist regimes in power rather than letting the revolutionaries self-determine but what do i know lol

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>>11729395
>>11729386

How much to make me a pair like that and or where can I get them?

>> No.11729712

>>11729646
collective ownership of the means of production i mean

>> No.11729724

>>11729386
>>11729395
Handmade pussy repellent

>> No.11729762

>>11729707
Make you're own, but only if you're actually involved in punk and anarchist stuff. Otherwise you'll be a poseur and they'll end up looking super artificial.

They're pretty easy to make though, get a pair of work pants, or whatever kind of pants you prefer, non stretch duck canvass or oilskin is the best though, as it's the most durable.
Wear them every day, or as much as possible. Patch holes when they form, collect cool band or other graphic patches but don't buy them unless you can't make them yourself or trade for them and only when the money goes directly to support a band or some type of collective action thing. Also don't totally cover your shit in graphic patches, you'll look like a fucking racing car and that's not cool.
Try to get dental floss or artificial sinew, or even real sinew to sew with if you can find some road kill and you wanna try to make some.

>>11729724
>Handmade pussy repellent

>Truth is, you'll get a girl with these! Hahhaa! They'll know you made these and be into you. I think they're easily the number one punk item.

from that stupid terminal boredom article, but they're not wrong.

>> No.11729844

>>11729386
Do they smell?

Doesn't the skin underneath get infected / break out in blemishes?

>> No.11729851

>>11722330
wearing that is like boyscout shit for degenerate south people

>> No.11729954

>>11729844
They smell faintly earthy, and the crotch smells like crotch, but you can't smell it unless you're like really in my shit.

Sometimes i get chafing from all the dental floss, but that's only when i walk like 15+ miles which i don't do super often. But no it doesn't get infected, like do you really think i would risk my health for clothing? what a stupid fucking question

>> No.11729971

>>11729954
>what a stupid fucking question

I was only asking because I was curious. Not all infections are that noticeable/intrusive.

Thanks for being rude though. I actually like the jeans.

>> No.11729978

>>11729971
thanks for liking them but it was a really weird question. like the inside isn't nearly as dirty as the outside. and also i often wear long johns under them which i wash.

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11730010

>>11723898
w2c Big Dipper patch.
Is that some underground railroad shit or just a made up military unit

>> No.11730227

>>11729707
>terminal-boredom/crustpants.com
dont listen to the overalls commie, its all about the music!
dental floss is kinda lame, i use button and craft dual duty xp thread,
you dont have to wait to patch them, patch them all up, then put graphics on

>> No.11730454

>>11730227
yeah, and the music is politically charged and almost entirely about anarchist stuff.

If you want them to look legit, wait for them to get holes and patch the holes. The fuck is the point of patching pants if they don't have holes? Non utilitarian fashion emulating utilitarian fashion is stupid.

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>>11729395
>also KYS reactionary scum
Kek, how the fuck does a focus on strong economy and internal security, or truth, justice and order benefit the privileged minority rather than raise the whole people? How is alignment with nature, tradition and history remotely unrealistic? It's by definition aligned against fantasy

And jfc how can you have such a weak grasp of your own ideological subscription that you'd conflate it with its fork/subcategory?

>> No.11731001

>>11728393
The left patch in your picture would look good on that

>> No.11731117
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>>11730879
because you can focus on truth, justice, order, a strong economy and /global/ security without the gross racist/homophobic/abliest/anti-semitic overtones, and a stratifying economy and social order which is run by those with an interest to benefit themselves and not the masses.
Using all these buzzwords about what's "natural" and "traditional", words which don't actually describe how a fascist society or economy functions is a good way to sidestep my criticisms but not a good way to make a valid argument.

Also fascism, which is a form of capitalism, depends on infinite economic growth which is impossible to continuously achieve. So it will inevitably eventually crash. Unlike a socialist society which can simply adjust its economic production dependent upon collective need, and which does not have an economic dependency upon constant growth.


From what i have read libertarian socialism is a broader term which refers to a number of anarchist socialist ideologies. Most of which are nearly identical and vary almost entirely in how a socialist society would be reached. So in any casual conversation, like say, on 4chan they can be used interchangeably without any confusion.
(i should have said basically the same thing, instead of making such a based statement)

>> No.11731147

>>11731117
How you gonna be a crusty with polo socks and clean boots son

>> No.11731166

>>11731147
I got those socks for free senpai, u take what u gotta, you know?
Also those boots are super new and that pictures at least a couple months old, so

>> No.11731290

>>11731117
Is that dilophosaurus skull attached to your pants?? It looks cool

>> No.11731313

>>11731290
Thank you! It's on my fanny pack though actually, it's a metal cast pin. My dad is a paleontologist, so i have a bunch of stuff related to that on my gear. i believe it's a dilophosaurus but it's not the best cast i've seen of one of their skulls, so

Also it unfortunetly recently broke while i was doing some labor/odd job stuff : (
I have both pieces though and might try to weld it back together

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>>11731290
I also have this little pin, which is for the "U.S. Department of Interior Bureau of Land Management; Managing Fossils on Public Land"
I like it better desu, but that's mainly because i have a soft spot for enamel pins

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>>11731117
I've been thinking about it a long while but I'm gonna make myself a pair of these over time.
I wear mostly UK82 punk shit, subhumans, anti nowhere league n all that
Digging your style though

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11731353

Hey /patches/, I just dyed this black and now I want to find a place to put my Dante and Virgil patch on it.

This one:
http://innerdecay.bigcartel.com/product/dante-and-virgil-in-hell

Where should it go? Preferably not lower sleeves because I like to scrunch them up

>> No.11731446

>>11729386
>>11729395
>>11731117
Poser as fuck. Was your mom pissed that you ruined your brand new pair of overalls?

>> No.11731495

>>11731338
>>11731313
Sounds like you got a cool dad. Those are some sick pins too anon

>> No.11731499

>>11731353
It'll probably look best on the shoulder

>> No.11731602

>>11731446
they're 3 and a half years old, and you didn't even spell poseur right >_>

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Just copped this wool jacket from some brand called COA at a local thrift shop. I dig it. Thinking of putting a single patch on it, my Hard Times patch. Look good? Placement OK? Sorry for photo quality btw.

>> No.11731707

>been 2 weeks and still havent got my patches from ball and chain , and a couple of other patches sites

The heck?

>> No.11731717

>>11731707
At least you didn't order from BruisedTongue before you realized they're out of Canada and it'll be at least 2-4 weeks before you see your pin.

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>>11731117
Anarchocommunism is usually considered to be a more specific, and imo more radical, ideologly under the wider umbrella libsoc, I suggested it as a joke because it's probably the most radical degree of liberal delusion achievable, within libsoc or without.

>truth, justice, order, a strong economy and /global/ security without a stratified* economy and social order
Heirarchy and truth justice & order are fundamentally connected. You can't have any of the latter without the former and normally lolbertsrians would admit to not wanting any of it, since they essentially contradict their ideology. Spontaneous order isn't the same as order under reactionary theory, if that's what you were thinking.

>gross racist/homophobic/abliest/anti-semitic overtones
>muh feelings!! more important than governmental effectiveness

>nature and tradition
>buzzwords
They're the foundation of the ideologies. You've got an Internet connection, try using it to read instead of shilling yourself for social approval on an anonymous imageboard.

I'm natsoc FYI. The propertied minority is not self serving except in the sense that everyone acts in service to the nation-state, which ultimately benefits themselves.

>depends on infinite economic growth which is impossible to continuously achieve
While I'm not a fascist, you're understanding of it is clearly misinformed. Read Gregor's Mussolini's Intellectuals and Mosley's 10 Points of Fascism (very short read)

>> No.11731774

>>11731602
>and you didn't even spell poseur right >_>
Poser as fuck. Where are you from newfag? You don't need to reply to every post that quotes you

>> No.11731778

>>11722506
>>11722515
>buying shit with pre-applied patches of references probably unknown for you
k y s

>> No.11731836

>>11731778
This desu

>> No.11731850

>>11730010
what pattern is this?

>> No.11731855

>>11731772
>Anarchocommunism is usually considered to be a more specific
so exactly what i said. And then you say that i'm a delusional liberal, when i am CLEARLY not a liberal. You criticize me for using words incorrectly when i don't and then use words in incredibly incorrect way. Liberals are capitalists, i'm an anti-capitalist, see any conflicts there?

Truth, justice, or order, security, and economic stability have NO correlation to hierarchy or authority. I'd like to see you actually back that up instead of just making empty claims.

>muh feelings!! more important than governmental effectiveness
>it's okay to kill disenfranchised people because it's mildly more efficient to do so rather than pulling them up to a point where they can produce alongside the rest of humanity in way which doesn't exploit them.

It doesn't matter if they are "foundations of the ideology" if they're meaningless buzzwords. Tradition is so heavilly varied between cultures that it's meaningless to assume that the certain culture you where born into is supperior, or that something is GOOD just because it is traditional. Nothing is "unnatural" humans are a product of nature and so are all human choices and creations. Even if you make the meaningless distinction between what is natural and unnatural, that still doesn't show that natural things or better, or result in a more functional society.
You do realize that not all books agree, right? I could spend 15 years straight reading and not even come across any ideas which contradict my own, even though i think it's important for me to expose myself to information which i disagree with.

Why would the propertied minority NOT be self serving? By factor of the system that you've set up it is in their interest to be self serving, and it is also very easy to be self serving if you have advantages over other people.

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>>11731778

this threads been up so long that I just got them in the mail its even better than I thought! Thanks for all the support you guys!

>> No.11731872

>>11731772
lastly, because my post didn't fit.


National socialism IS fascism. Unless you'd like to make more distinctions between hair splitingly similar ideologies while calling me a liberal.

Fascism is capitalistic, because of the way capitalism functions IE with a monetary system, wage labor, etc. there is a requirement for constant growth. I don't see how either of these pieces of writing contradict my claim though.

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>>11731855
"Liberals" and liberalism are two different things, your ideology falls squarely under liberalism, as a said, about as far into liberalism as you could get. A quick rule of thumb: if you believe in any form of fundamental, God-given, don't question it etc equality between individuals, you're a pozzed as day liberal.

Fascism and natsoc are not the same thing. The differences are complicated and it's hard to separate historical natsoc of the NSDAP from modern revivals of its theory, but the major thing is fascism accepts traditional socialism as part of its economic structure whereas as NatSoc rejects it in favor of race & volk based communalism e.g. Socialism would have the central gov control important industries in order to uplift the average citizen, whereas natsoc would still provide things like employee benefits, pensions, retirement etc to keep the community healthy but still deeply defend free enterprise and not take over any industries. NSDAP's only interventions in internal industry was to ban defeatism and degeneracy in the press and media - much, much less censorship than we can say goes on today in the progressive West.

Read Carlyle for an understanding of what truth order and justice actually means in political science, and Evola for what traditionalism means. You can read all the trash you want, but if you actually bothered to try, you'd quickly graduate into decently reasoned theory and at least have a basic handle of a single thing you've been trying to discuss ITT. At least move off the tumblr blogposting and read Hoppe & Hayek, it can't be that hard for you.

>> No.11732234

>>11731856
Post fit faggot

>> No.11732272

>>11732230
I should add, the differences are complicated but MANY. Fascism is ethnically inclusive, NatSoc by principle ethnically exclusive. Fascism is nothing more than a economic and political structure, NatSoc a culture and worldview. Fascism is oriented towards power, NatSoc towards prosperity. By both being bulwarks against communism, they do share an anti-materialism, anti-exploitation and anti-Zionism (implying they're not all the same thing) but from there they fork.

>> No.11732275

>>11732272
Anti-semitism, not zionism, sorry.

>> No.11732276

>>11727613
Dood, nice taste.

>> No.11732368

>>11729646

Ahh so you'll continue to be a moocher off the labour of others.

What happened to: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need"

You are aware societies that have attempted to implement Marxism typically oppress people such as yourself?

Imprisonment, elimination, or forced labour would be your typical fate.

>> No.11733096

>>11732230
No, libsoc /could/ be considered /traditional/ liberalism, which varies so heavilly from modern liberals, liberalism, and neo-liberalism that they aren't the same thing, to the point where it's inaccurate to describe ancom/libsoc ideology as liberal.

As I said, national socialism, and fascism are so hair splittingly similar it's basically irrelevant.
Would you like to prove that there was less censorship in nazi germany's press than in the west right now? Instead of AGAIN making claims without backing them up?

I'm pretty sure most fascists would say that their ideology strives for ethnic exclusivity and prosperity. But fascism is neither anti-exploitative nor anti-materialistic. Capitalist societies are by proxy of how they are organized, through stratified hierarchies, exploitative! If one person is in a position above another, especially if they have governmental authority, this leads to a situation where they are primed to use that power to exploit others! This should be obvious as this is how hierarchical societies have played out for the entirety of human time.

Also how the FUCK are anti-materialism, anti-exploitation, and anti-zionism the same thing? I agree that zionism is fucking awful, and has caused a huge amount of suffering. But that is because it is a nationalist/fundamentalist ideology, much like fascism.

Also you side stepped like half my points, so, i mean you can keep doing it but it's obvious to me and probably the rest of the thread as well

>> No.11733099

Go back to /pol/, idiots

>> No.11733113

>>11732368
Just because I am NEET does not mean i don't WORK, it means i don't have a JOB as i'm trying to distance myself from contributing to the capitalist mode of production. I attempt to get as many of the things i consume without exploiting anyones labor, having a fixed job and contributing to capitalist production puts me in a position where i can easily support multi-national corporations and the military industrial complex through taxes and the exploitation my own labor.

"from each according to his ability, to each according to his need" is a nice idea but does not come into practice UNDER CAPITALISM. Also just because i would have partial collective ownership over the entirety of the means of production simply means i would have access to all the tools i would ever need to produce basically whatever i want as long as it isn't dangerously detrimental to the collective.

In a socialist society i would be more than happy to provide as much labor as i can for society.

Again, i'm not a marxist, and yes i am well aware of that. That's because marxists are often ML, Maoist third wordlists, Stalinists and other gross tanky statist bullshit "socialist" ideologies.

I don't think you understand the societal form of organization which me and other anarchists are proposing.

>> No.11733124

>>11733099
This, why commies gatta ruin /patch/?

>> No.11733125

>>11733113
>i'm trying to distance myself from contributing to the capitalist mode of production.
Hahahahahahaha

>> No.11733326

>>11731850
A US urban pattern that was printed onto like 20 different uniforms.
The rarest US pattern you can buy.

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Gotta find something to put them on

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Again, liberalism and "liberal" in its qolluqial usage are two very different things. Libertarianism is very firmly a liberal ideology, as well as anarchism, and libsoc. It's defined on principles, not based on what people casually use the word to describe - good to keep in mind when you see fascism "criticized" by antifa spergs

>Also you side stepped like half my points, so, i mean you can keep doing it but it's obvious to me and probably the rest of the thread as well
Because you're sorely misinformed, and I would get banned if I started sharing infographics and quotes from texts. I'm also on my phone so couldn't anyway. I've told you the texts you could read to inform yourself, and ice stated from the outset I'm little interested in engaging with someone as pozzed as you.
Pic related, the Gottfried Frieder quotes in the image, directly stating NatSoc is designed against both materialism and exploitative capitalism. Read his 25 Points and Programme of the NSDAP to understand their economic theory. Exploitation isn't inherent to heirarchy or free enterprise, as the NSDAP demonstrated. There is such a thing as benevolence and good will. The desert monks of the 12th century, for example, also had a strict heirarchy in their loose social network, but no one would argue any exploitation was present. Not to mention the place under servititude into God they readily accepted.

Capitalism is exploitative when self interested individuals or groups of individuals separated from the people as a whole are allowed to operate freely. Jewish identity and religion is built on exploiting the goyim, and they've repeatedly proven it throughout history. Who do you think you're "privileged minority" or "1%" is? Anti-exploitation and anti-semitism are on an the same. It's pathetic that you've fallen for their Marxist opiate despite history making clear its disingenuity - I know youve claimed you're not Marxist, but you share the rhetoric and parts of the theory.

>> No.11733512

I have a few patches around my house, and would love to put them on a jacket. I don't like denim jackets though, so is there anything else I should consider? I'm leaning towards flight jackets or anoraks/windbreakers atm.

>> No.11733937

>>11731117
>gross racist
you're a pussy. How could you possibly survive in a world without a strong government presence protecting your weak snowflake sensibilities?

You're a marxist so you're a loser, and I'm glad you fags are eternally buttmad because no communist or socialist state ever worked and Nazi Germany was a massive economic success.

>> No.11733944

>>11731117
So I guess when a girl is fucked by her dad she becomes a whore and when a boy is fucked by his dad he becomes a libertarian socialist.

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Normal stuff

>> No.11734227

>arguing about politics in a patch thread
you fucking retards. 4chan is full of kids

>> No.11734234

Thread for people who want to talk about patches, not politics
>>11734165

>> No.11734271

>>11733937
>no communist or socialist state worked
What is Cuba? What is China? What is North Korea? Lmao. Dumbass.