Let's not think about how much he's loved by 16 year old tumblr girls who's born in the wrong generation and actually appreciate him for being the most effay musician. Everyone here who was old enough to appreciate his music when he was alive will agree too.

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Anonymous Sat Oct 10 14:05:53 2015 No.10478904 [Reply] [Original]

Let's not think about how much he's loved by 16 year old tumblr girls who's born in the wrong generation and actually appreciate him for being the most effay musician. Everyone here who was old enough to appreciate his music when he was alive will agree too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 14:12:10 2015 No.10478917 File: 130 KB, 480x564, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 14:21:23 2015 No.10478939 File: 32 KB, 236x470, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Also bleach is goat album

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 14:35:56 2015 No.10478986 he was also /fa/ in a musical sense because he liked the beatles and made melodically pleasing songs that still had an edge and energy

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 14:38:01 2015 No.10478994 >>10478939 only kurt could have made a song with an awesome riff that someone who can't play guitar would make up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKnkVt4Uicc

>>	Mango !!qT11xYTVwQG Sat Oct 10 14:40:01 2015 No.10479004 >>10478939 >>10478994 was about to post the same

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 14:46:12 2015 No.10479029 >>10478994 That performance is so good. My dad saw their only show in Norway, but it was apparently pretty bad because Kurts life was pretty shit during that period. Lost custody to his child or something.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 14:49:10 2015 No.10479034 >>10478939 w2c Leadbelly longsleeve

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 14:50:13 2015 No.10479039 >>10479034 Want it too. Would it be top poser to wear it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 14:53:57 2015 No.10479056 he dressed about the same as rednecks at truck stops, but he's /fa/ and a huge fashion icon just because he was handsome

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 14:59:57 2015 No.10479066 >>10479056 I've never seen rednecks in cardigans and wool sweaters. But yeah whatever

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 15:01:45 2015 No.10479075 File: 35 KB, 460x276, Courtney-Love-Rick-Owens--001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] his more talented fashionable wife was one of the first celebs to discover ricky

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 15:04:44 2015 No.10479096 >>10479075 oh boy here we go

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 16:05:20 2015 No.10479320 File: 69 KB, 600x1005, 1389929451564[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10478986

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 16:09:27 2015 No.10479342 >>10479075 He was probably cucked by Rick too. What a useless dead faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 16:17:18 2015 No.10479368 >>10479320 problem?

Anonymous Sat Oct 10 16:27:08 2015 No.10479402

>>10478994
kurt's pretty underrated as a guitarist, dude has some quality riffs

>>10478939
>bleach is goat album
have we reached the level of hipsterism where even in utero isn't alternative enough to be considered their best album without conforming?
>Nevermind: 10/10
>In Utero: 9/10
>Bleach: 8/10

>>10479039
Do you listen to lead belly? Cop if you do, don't if you don't. If you don't, it's pretty easy to start listening to him

Anonymous Sat Oct 10 16:32:00 2015 No.10479425

>>10479402
>
could never get into in utero just because the songs themselves never really appealed to me.

I thought they just were getting weird at that point, like these names

"francis farmer will have her revenge on seattle"

"scentless apprentice"

"pennyroyal tea"

like somehow they shifted from the band that made DIVE, and ANEURYSM, LOVE BUZZ, LITHIUM

like idk, i just feel their aesthetic changed for the worse.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 16:36:14 2015 No.10479446 >>10479425 I see where you're coming from, but you should let the names of songs detract from the quality of the music. Those three songs you listed are all fantastic

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 16:39:40 2015 No.10479458 >>10479425 >their aesthetic that isn't a catch all word fam

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 16:40:41 2015 No.10479460 >>10479402 >>10479425 In Utero was way better than Nevermind. Bleach is still their best tho. Floyd the barber, Negative creep and School.. enough said.

Anonymous Sat Oct 10 16:50:35 2015 No.10479486
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>>10479458

well it can be. all 3 of their official studio albums I think were vastly different aesthetic and circumstance wise.

bleach was the "DIY" homemade-style record, the cover even features another guitarist, this was them at their most raw and abrasive

nevermind was aquatic, they were a solid 3 piece, imo the best combination of distortion and melody, well produced (as nirvana would say too well produced), videos featured jellyfish, sperm, cells etc their "prime"

in utero- pic related is the collage that was made. kurt indulges his "anatomy" fascination. he also becomes a fucking father as well as significantly more of a drug abuser. I just thought that basically nevermind was the pinnacle of writing 3 piece melodic punk/noise/ grunge songs. after that people want another album buts its like, how many of those songs can you write? i think they would have gone different directions in the absence of kurt's death. i think in utero was somewhat the beginnings of the "stale" sort've jaded fame/stardom/ "this is what you expect us to be" type album. oh and also they did a lot more official TV appearances as well as adding guitarist Smear, which was also weird to me because I liked the straightforeward rawness and clarity of the core 3 piece.

all opinions yes but defniitely absolutely different aesthetics in those short few years from nobodies to world famous

Anonymous Sat Oct 10 17:17:49 2015 No.10479593

>>10479486
I would have liked to have heard one more Nirvana album (in a world where Kurt didn't kill himself). I know it'd be probably objectively the worst of their releases but I feel like it would have put the cap on it a little better. You could see where they were heading with You Know You're Right.

Anonymous Sat Oct 10 20:41:03 2015 No.10480329

>>10479593
In Utero literally wasn't enough. It felt like just a beginning, not an end. Fucking hell. Would kill for some real unreleased songs. Also the new "solo" album is so shit, every song there I've had on bootleg cds for 20 years now. Fucking pathetic release. Movie wasn't good either.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 21:20:28 2015 No.10480419 >>10480329 you're an idiot. theres plenty of songs in there that havent been released

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 21:20:32 2015 No.10480420 >>10478904 nah. i was in college near seattle in 90-94, we saw him at local shows all the time, at shows with maybe like 20 people. remember chatting with him a few times. he was an obnoxious pleb and nobody liked him.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 21:33:58 2015 No.10480452 >>10480420 Let's see your fit and see who came out ahead.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 10 21:42:19 2015 No.10480476 >>10480420 > 90-94, we saw him at local shows all the time > local shows pretty sure he was brunt out touring around the wolrd during that time

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 00:07:42 2015 No.10480935 >>10480420 >90-94 >Local shows try harder dweeb

Anonymous Sun Oct 11 00:41:22 2015 No.10481035

bleach is an amazing album

>>10480420

Yeah... we're gonna need some proof. At least prove that you're as old as you claim, because I highly doubt it, since you still make an effort to use slang that the younger generations use (pleb) and type like it too.

I've never seen a guy who's as old as you are and presumably been using the internet for as long as you have who types the way you do. As well, anyone as old as you are wouldn't spend as much time keeping up with the latest "memes" (like pleb)

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 00:46:33 2015 No.10481059 >>10480420 Why would you anonymously lie on the internet to impress anonymous strangers?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 00:53:09 2015 No.10481079 >>10480935 what are you trying to say exactly? because no one had even heard of nirvana before 1991, before nevermind dropped. no one could give 2 shits about them before the mainstream latched onto them and hailed them as the next big thing

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 01:53:38 2015 No.10481231 >>10480420 Hahahaha

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 02:15:45 2015 No.10481291 >>10481035 Not the guy you were talking to but 'pleb' is probably the oldest meme in existence. Itnis something like 7k years old or more.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 02:19:50 2015 No.10481301 File: 106 KB, 498x432, 662265194.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10480420 Who'd you hang out with? Every band worth a shit in Seattle adored he and Nirvana, even the ones he hated.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 02:27:13 2015 No.10481323 File: 48 KB, 579x380, Miles-Davis-Chili-Recipe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If you honestly believe Kurt is more effay than Miles, we're gonna have a problem here

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 02:27:38 2015 No.10481326 >>10481079 Are you talking out of your ass? Nirvana was one of the biggest underground acts in 1990 and was co signed by the biggest underground band of the time, Sonic Youth, and went on tour with them. Why do you think Geffen signed them?

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 02:28:46 2015 No.10481330 File: 283 KB, 1025x1561, 354653635.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10478904 Trent Reznor was cooler, I don't doubt that his aesthetic inspired people like Rick Owens a lot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 03:24:17 2015 No.10481438 >>10481330 Trent Reznor was cooler? pretty soon you'll be telling me Tool is "deep"

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 03:51:28 2015 No.10481483 File: 12 KB, 234x261, 1439945008144.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10481438 tool isn't anything like nin tho. Tool is borderline buttrock, nine inch nails is more in line with bands like skinny puppy, coil, throbbing gristle, and Prince

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 03:56:30 2015 No.10481492 >>10481438 Hating tool is the biggest meme /mu/ has ever spread apart from making people think NMH is anything amazing

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 03:59:25 2015 No.10481500 >>10481492 NMH isnt amazing but ITAOTS really is an amazing album.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 04:01:15 2015 No.10481503 >>10478904 >implying people in their thirties browse /fa/ Shit, there's barely anyone in their twenties that browses this board.

Anonymous Sun Oct 11 04:02:17 2015 No.10481506

>>10481500
I have to politely disagree, but we may as well save our time tbh, this argument has been done to death. My entire point basically comes down to: /mu/ considers it so underrated that they started to overrate it to the extreme. While it is a good album, it probably rests comfortably in the 8/10 slot, at least in my opinion, but the hivemind put it on a pedestal.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 04:07:16 2015 No.10481512 >>10479425 Pennyroyal Tea is a well-known abortifacient and Frances is the name of his daughter. I think you might just been an idiot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 04:08:22 2015 No.10481513 >>10481503 I'm pretty sure a large chunk of the people who come on here are in their early 20s

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 04:09:51 2015 No.10481515 >>10481513 >large chunk Definitely not. Small percentage. Majority are under 20s, I'd say, then under 22s and then it starts getting way slimmer

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 05:30:29 2015 No.10481703 >>10480419 Yeah like two sound collages, go to hell faggot

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 15:30:38 2015 No.10483224 i want more inspo from this thread

Anonymous Sun Oct 11 15:58:04 2015 No.10483323

>>10481512
I was using the names as an example. as I said I don't think the songwriting is as strong either ...the sound suffered, I think with Nevermind they really wanted to make a great album, and in utero were maybe obligatory because of how prolific they became. it was a more stale sound, it had less electricity

Anonymous Sun Oct 11 16:01:08 2015 No.10483334

>>10481492
I don't hate tool. I just associate them with NIN because I think they both like to put on a public charade of some mystery or darkness.

Tool in particular the only album I bought was 10,000 days, and the packaging features artwork by Alex Grey and stereoscopic images of maynard in like a fantasy setting.

vicarious, jambi, the pot are great fucking songs. but the filler in between consistently sounds like half baked seeds of songs that never really grew into anything. ambient sort've jams riffs or atmosphere that isn't as concise as those songs I mentioned.

the "deep" joke is just a comment on some of the atmosphere, like blame hoffman, which I guess has relevance to them but the listener is somewhat outside of the joke. its indulgent and filler imo. you can make music without the pretense

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 11 18:18:23 2015 No.10483806 >>10479425 In Utero is their aesthetic, creative and musical peak. Try again, it's pretty rewarding.

Anonymous Sun Oct 11 18:24:13 2015 No.10483820

>>10483334
I consider stuff like "Blame Hoffman" little intervals between songs. Really, just a little something that stops the listener to be charged with song after song. But that's me, I can see why other people might think it's just pretentious "le deep xDDD" wankery. Also, 10,000 is easily their 2nd/3rd best m8 what are you on about

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 01:36:30 2015 No.10485175

>>10483334
As far as 10,000 Days, I think Rosetta Stoned is probably the best song on there and it's pretty dope. Blame Hoffman has to be listened to in tandem with Rosetta Stoned, it's really one story; some kid was abducted by aliens and is terrified after they drop him off at the hospital (this is Blame Hoffman). Finally, he gets the courage to tell someone and that's Rosetta Stoned. It's not anything particularly deep, it's just a nice little story to go with a great song.

But if you want less wankery (Tool definitely were going for more than just the music on that album) listen to all of Aenima. Imo it's objectively their best album, with 10,000 days being second despite being a bit wanky. Aenima though is fantastic, it still has the band throwing in their own little bits and bobs but generally the songs are free from that

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 03:44:25 2015 No.10485480
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>tfw you heard "You Know You're Right" for the first time
>realize that Kurts next album would have been like this
god fucking dammit. Fuck you Kurt. You just couldn't stop the H.

It's typical, though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:33:37 2015 No.10487049 >>10479425 Kurt wanted to get rid of the pleb top 40 pop fans he gained due to Nevermind.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:39:01 2015 No.10487066 File: 106 KB, 500x500, kurt-cobain-large-msg-134481651448[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Needs more actual inspo

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:40:05 2015 No.10487069 >>10479342 I giggled at this

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:46:46 2015 No.10487093 File: 57 KB, 500x330, 4736124874_911323a0c6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Kurt was going to do a collab with Michael Stipe and release a quiet acoustic album Fuck

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:47:08 2015 No.10487096 File: 283 KB, 1200x899, 26_11.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] one of my favs

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 16:52:55 2015 No.10487123 >>10481512 >Frances is the name of his daughter It is but the title refers to an actress who was institutionalised and raped or something like that

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>>	None !HATEDjgkJA Mon Oct 12 17:00:31 2015 No.10487151 >Nirvana >Kurt Cobain >2015 loolll

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:03:45 2015 No.10487167 >>10487151 name best modern band pls

>>	None !HATEDjgkJA Mon Oct 12 17:06:03 2015 No.10487177 >>10487167 Nirvana

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:08:47 2015 No.10487183

>>10481035
>we're gonna need some proof.

Not that guy, but I'm from the Seattle area and have known a bunch of people that were involved in the grunge scene. He's kind of right. Kurt was seen by most people as kind of a loser asshole. He was never really part of the "Seattle" scene in particular, because he always lived in cheaper cities and refused to work. When finally did move to Seattle, he treated other people like shit, acted like he owned the place, and lots of people didn't like him. Andrew Wood, who was probably the most popular guy in grunge at the time was one of those people.

Lots of people liked him and saw him as a loveable fuckup, but he wasn't universally liked.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:09:12 2015 No.10487185 >>10487177 Nirvana is no longer together. the year is 2015, what do you like to listen to?

None !HATEDjgkJA Mon Oct 12 17:16:04 2015 No.10487212

>>10487185

I've been listening some 'outsider house' like Delroy Edwards (the son of Ron Pearlman lel), Transilvanian Galaxi and Ü. some ambient, drone and experimental too, mainly Steve Hauschildt, the new OPN album, Pospulenn, Jackie-O Motherfucker, etc.

Finally i downloaded a bunch of minimal synth albums and eps, Vita Noctis, Neutral Project, Dendö Marionnette, Χωρίς Περιδέραιο, Moral, etc

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:16:23 2015 No.10487213
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>>10487183

>loser asshole

the songs speak for themselves

>He was never really part of the "Seattle" scene in particular, because he always lived in cheaper cities and refused to work.

yea, he grew up in another town and didn't want some bullshit wageslave job. he wanted to be in a band

>he treated other people like shit, acted like he owned the place, and lots of people didn't like him.

he was on a ruthless path to fame. he wanted his songs heard. no use rubbing elbows with drunks who just wanna start shit. he was bullied in school, probably just defensive reactions to perceived hostility. if you're on stage you do own the place

>Andrew Wood

pic related. hair metal straggler

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:18:17 2015 No.10487229 >>10487212 so you like ambient, electronic, experimental, minimal. are you sure you just don't like the style period? rock/punk/grunge? maybe it has nothing to do with the year or the band just the styles you like or dislike?

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:19:57 2015 No.10487234

having lived through that time period and living in that area, the funniest thing to me is that nirvana wasnt even the best band to come out of that whole grunge scene. mudhoney, screaming trees, melvins, a lot of other bands in that scene were regarded as being so much better than nirvana, but the mainstream media latched onto nirvana because they had a good looking lead singer and decided to make them the poster boys for grunge.

None !HATEDjgkJA Mon Oct 12 17:21:25 2015 No.10487235

>>10487229

I dont have a problem with any period. I listen to non electronic stuff too

Fuck Nirvana though, stopped listening to that shit when i was 16 and so should everyone who 'is into music'. Nirvana is just a mediocre mainstream grunge band, there are plenty of much better and interesting alternatives.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:22:03 2015 No.10487238 >>10487235 ok, what better alternatives exist in the same vein as Nirvana?

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:25:41 2015 No.10487250

>>10487234
The Melvins weren't apart of the grunge scene. They moved to LA in like 87. Nirvana STARTED the mainstream attraction to grunge. They signed to Geffen through the suggestion of Sonic Youth, and originally were expected to be a moderate success. Then came Smells Like Teen Spirit and you know the rest. Daily reminder: In Utero is the best "grunge" album.

>>	None !HATEDjgkJA Mon Oct 12 17:26:45 2015 No.10487254 >>10487238 Define 'same vein'.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:28:28 2015 No.10487260 >>10479320 kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:30:45 2015 No.10487270 >>10487250 except that Pearl Jam's "One" came out before Nevermind did, and was more influential. so you're wrong.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:30:54 2015 No.10487272

>>10487250
>Nirvana STARTED the mainstream attraction to grunge

No they didn't. Mother Love Bone was the first band from that scene to attract a lot of attention from record labels. Soundgarden and Alice in Chains also had a lot of early interest. and both put out record before Nevermind that did reasonably well. Nirvana might have been the first band to get huge, but it's not like a vacuum existed before Smells Like Teen Spirit.

And In Utero is far from the best "grunge" album. Sweet Oblion, Dust, Badmotofinger, Vitalogy, and Dayglo are all better.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:32:38 2015 No.10487275 >>10487270 >One Lmao what are you even talking about

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:34:27 2015 No.10487281 >>10487275 ok, "ten". you know what i meant.

Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:37:34 2015 No.10487289

>>10487281
You didn't disprove me by the way. "Influential" is subjective. Influfential on what? Also, Ten did come out first, but sold slowly until the latter half of 1992. Nevermind surpassed Dangerous in January of 1992. Nirvana gave every other grunge band that mainstream platform.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 12 17:49:29 2015 No.10487363 >>10487254 same vein? noisy, concise melodic heavy rock, basically more organic instrumentation with dissonance, energy, powerful rhythm

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