Help me fix my acne.

[Anonymous No.10449815]

Hi /fa/, so I just got the following at Target:
- Neutrogena ultra gentle daily cleanser.
- Neutrogena pore refining exfoliating cleanser.
- Neutrogena moisturizer with sun-block.
- Neutrogena astringent.

I got these beccause the sticky told me to (http://tuxbell.com/index.php?title=Grooming#Skin-care_Basics).).

My question is, how do I use these items while also taking care of my acne at the same time (pic related)?

I'm going to follow the skin-care schedule in the wiki, but how do I also use my acne treatment stuff at the same time (like what times do I apply it)?

For acne treatment I have:
- Oxy salicylic acid wipes.
- Prescription tretinoin gel (0.025%).

Sorry I'm a noob, I'm trying to make sense of all of this.

Thanks in advance!

[HOW TO GET RID OF ACNE No.10449830]

>GO TO DOCTOR
>"I want an appointment with a dermatologist"
>GO TO APPOINTMENT
>"I want to go on Accutane"
>GO ON ACCUTANE AND STAY ON IT
>ENJOY ACNE FREE SKIN IN 6-12 MONTHS


DO THIS, THERE IS NO OTHER WAY.

I WENT FROM BEING A 3/10 LOSER TO A 6.5/10, TO THEN BEING AN 8/10 AFTER I GOT /fit/.

GO ON ACCUTANE.

[Anonymous No.10449850]

>>10449815
>>10449830
None of this is required.

Stop eating so much sugar. Drink more water. Sleep on your back. Don't touch your face all the time. Problem solved.

[Anonymous No.10449863]

>>10449850
I eat cabbage, celery, carrots, chicken breast, and healthy stir-fry. I could probably drink more water, but water is the only thing I drink (except for a daily glass of milk or two).

I sleep on the floor on my back, and I try not to touch my face much.

[HOW TO GET RID OF ACNE No.10449871]

>>10449850
THERE IS LITERALLY 0 PROOF THAT YOUR DIET CAUSES ACNE.

SLEEPING ON YOUR FACE DOES NOT CAUSE ACNE.

>>10449863
HE/SHE IS SPEAKING PSEUDO-SCIENCE. ACNE IS CAUSED BY OIL BEING CLOGGED UP IN THE SEBACEOUS GLANDS.

DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS PSEUDO-RETARD.

GO ON ACCUTANE.

[Anonymous No.10449884]

depends on your skin type is a big pro to use jojoba oil

google "Propionibacterium acnes jojoba"

don't smoke, sun protection is important (oxidative stress), vitamin c (camu camu powder)

[Anonymous No.10449908]

ACCUTANE has to many side effects, for heavy forms of acne only

[Anonymous No.10449931]

>>10449871
lol

[Anonymous No.10449960]

OP here, do I apply all of this stuff I got at Target to my whole body? Do I still use a body wash, or will my cleanser handle that for me?

[Anonymous No.10449984]

Please just get on accutane, you'll waste so much time trying all sorts of random shit that won't work meanwhile you couldve been on accutane all along and by the time you realise you NEED accutane you could have already finished the treatment (which by the way is pretty annoying but worth it)

[Anonymous No.10449993]

>>10449850
doesn't do shit if your acne is genetics related

[Anonymous No.10450006]

Go to a fucking dermatologist you nutterbutter.

Yes, there are products that help skin issues.
Yes, there are weird home remedies that help skin issues.

But none of that fucking bullshit will cure your ass faster and more effectively than the shit a doctor can give you.

If that's you in the pic or if you have acne anything like that, you can get on accutane and that shit is like fucking magic. Get an appointment right now, bud.

[Anonymous No.10450007]

well OP, what i know about neutrogena its a big harsh shit, sorry... u need some gentle cleanser without SLS

tretinoin is an topic vitamin A derivate, accutane is the same for oral use... the problem with that gel it contains to much alcohol wich dry out your skin and irritate it unnecessary

if you think its okay for your skin go ahead, otherwise use gentle stuff, zink oxide, jojoba...good products with BHA (salicylic acid) has "paulas choice"... gentle and more effective

[Anonymous No.10450208]

>>10449830
>>10449871
>>10449984
>>10450006
Is Accutane really that good? The side affects I'm reading about on it seem pretty harsh...

>>10449960
Also what do I do?

[Anonymous No.10450250]

>>10450208
Pic related is me, can you tell I used to have acne? I had it for like 6 years straight till Accutane cleared it up in 4-5 months. Only sides I got were dry as fuck lips and skin for a while

[Anonymous No.10450312]

>>10450208
There is nothing better than accutane, it really is a miracle drug compared to other stuff if you have bad acne.

The side effects are exaggerated, I assume that the really bad ones do occur, but I think that they are very rare. I've done 1½ treatment and all I've gotten is dry lips and dry hands (really really dry, moisturizer is essential).

Accutane hasn't fully cured me so far though, the acne comes back if I stop taking it. I don't know how bad it would be if I fully let it return, it's been minor so far but I haven't really given it a chance to come back. I'm starting a second full treatment soon and I'll gladly take the risk again, because tbh fam, I'd rather die than go back to how my acne was 2-3 years ago.

[STHLM - ストックホルム !EFFAYoZx0A No.10450386]

>>10449871
>there is literally 0 proof that your diet causes acne

---
Diet and acne: A review of the evidence

>Recently, well-designed, controlled, prospective studies have supported the association between specific dietary factors and acne.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-4632.2009.04002.x/pdf

---
A low-glycemic-load diet improves symptoms in acne vulgaris
patients: a randomized controlled trial

>These observations suggest that lifestyle factors, including diet, may be involved in acne pathogenesis

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/86/1/107.full.pdf

---
Diet in Acne: Further Evidence for the Role of Nutrient Signalling in Acne Pathogenesis

>Recent evidence underlines the role of Western diet in the pathogenesis of acne.

http://www.medicaljournals.se/acta/content/?doi=10.2340/00015555-1358&html=1

---
Effect of Milk and Dairy Products upon Severity of Acne for Young People

>There is a strong reliable correlation between milk and dairy product consumption frequency and the risk of acne occurrence and development. Pathogenetic influence of milk and dairy products upon acne is proved.

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.388.4968&rep=rep1&type=pdf

--
Dietary Implications for the Development of Acne: A Shifting Paradigm

>When observational epidemiological evidence is augmented by biological plausibility studies and confirmed by randomized controlled trials, the case for causality becomes ever-more convincing.

https://www.zentrum-der-gesundheit.de/pdf/akne_16.pdf

---
>Evidence for Acne-Promoting Effects of Milk and Other Insulinotropic Dairy Products

>Well-designed prospective studies published since 2005 provide evidence that components of
Western diets, particularly milk and dairy products and diets enriched in carbohydrates with high glycemic index and glycemic load are associated with acne.

https://www.nestlenutrition-institute.org/resources/library/Free/workshop/BookNNIW67/Documents/NNIW67_booklet_27.pdf

---

[STHLM - ストックホルム !EFFAYoZx0A No.10450397]

>>10449871
>>10450386
tl;dr:
You don't know what you're talking about.
Please stop.

for everyone else: avoid dairy and high-gi foods.

[Anonymous No.10450780]

>>10450208
>The side affects I'm reading about on it seem pretty harsh
The side effects are fucking knobs, m8.

They're either the result of ongoing research (The dermatologists will ask you about certain health issues JUST in case.) and/or are extremely rare.

Plus, there's constant supervision when you take medication, if there are any issues, they won't let you continue taking it for your health.

At absolute worst expect your skin, lips, and MAYBE eyes to be dry.

I just loaded up on aquaphor, some moisturizer (Your dermatologist can probably recommend a good, basic one) and then enjoyed my God-like skin.

[Anonymous No.10450806]

>>10450780
Alright, I'm going to setup an appointment with my doctor to try and get Accutane.

Can anyone answer >>10449960 please? I'm really confused.

[Anonymous No.10450837]

>>10450806
you shouldn't ever use body wash on your face, it's much too harsh. use the cleanser in the shower

[Anonymous No.10450847]

>>10450806
that stuff is intended for your face

[Anonymous No.10450871]

You mostly need the cleanser, the rest not so much. Use it when u wake up and when you go to sleep.

I tried Accutane, my doctor gave me that even when I told him I was dysthymic, that shit fucked me up even worse. I just changed my diet and started losing the acne gradually. What the other guy said, no sugar, lots of water. I also started exercising a little. Now I only have some acne scars that are going away slowly. Good luck!

[Anonymous No.10450881]

>>10449815
ya need a chemical acid peel! research that shit

look at skincareaddiction on reddit, yeah boo hoo it's fucking reddit but it's ten times better than this shitstain skincare wiki on fa

[Anonymous No.10450885]

>>10449815
Small step tip here.
Change your pillow sheet every few days. I change it every 2 days, it just takes a bit of time to develop the habit.

For the order I usually go

Exfoliate
Scrub/wash
toner
lotion or cloth mask
BP in problem areas
Sun Screen

To exfoliate I take a blackhead remover tool and run it over my face before I finish a hot shower. Turn the tool so the thin edge scrapes across your skin.

Then depending on how much time/how tired I am I will scrub/wash in the shower. I've been using mutenka for a while but recently swapped(2 months ago) to Dark Angel or Coal face from Lush.
Turn shower water to cold and rinse for about a minute(nothing is worse than trying to do a routine while you're body is sweating from the shower).
Exit shower
My toner is from Clinique, this works like your astringent; apply with cotton ball/pad.
Once it's dry I move on to lotion, I use Alpha Hydrox to help with my acne scars it's almost all gone. Cloth masks are useful if you want to plump up your skin and remove some light wrinkles, cheap ones will leave your face very very shiny.
Next I use Terminator 10 as my Bp in problem spots. Usually just put a small amount on my fingertips and rub around where my chin meets my jaw and some of my cheeks.
Lastly I use Biore Sarasara UV Aqua Rich Watery Essence Sunscreen, has that sunscreen protection without the smell and stickiness. You always want to sunscreen when you use Astringent.

For what you have I would go
2- Neutrogena ultra gentle daily cleanser.
1- Neutrogena pore refining exfoliating cleanser.
5- Neutrogena moisturizer with sun-block.
3- Neutrogena astringent.
4- Prescription tretinoin gel

In the morning and night.

You might not need these except when you're too lazy to cleanse before bed- Oxy salicylic acid wipes.

[Anonymous No.10450916]

>>10450885
I sleep on the floor and I don't use a pillow, so I'm good on that end.

Alright, I'm going to go with that routine, starting tonight. I'll only apply the tretinoin gel at night though, and use the exfoliating cleanser once every other day.

Thanks a bunch!

[Anonymous No.10450922]

>>10449871
sick try accutane rep

[Anonymous No.10451005]

>>10450916
BTW, Op.

You will seriously want to avoid these Patrick Bateman-esque routines. Not that they don't work, but just that they might not work...for you. And if you DO get accutane, you will seriously want to not do ANYTHING except for what the doctor tells you what you can and can't use.

Sunscreen
Moisturizer

Only two things you'll need whilst on it. Also, just use sunscreen the rest of your life every day. You will seriously look so much younger while everyone else looks old as fuck and will be mad jelly of your looks.

[Anonymous No.10451038]

>>10451005
Yeah I definitely plan on using sunblock for the rest of my life, I never knew how important it was.

[Anonymous No.10451046]

>>10450916
>sleep on the floor and I don't use a pillow
futon? even then you'd need a buckwheat pillow. Whats your bed like or is it seriously just sleep on the carpet?

[Anonymous No.10451057]

>>10451046
I have two blankets:

- One is layed on the ground flatly (I don't make it thicker by folding it).
- I use the other one to cover me to stay warm.

It's basically sleeping on the carpet, and the blanket I lay on top of is very thin (it's there just to keep me from getting cold from the ground).

I sleep on my back with no pillow.

[Anonymous No.10451066]

>>10451057
is this just to tie you over until you get a bed or what youve always done? Intersting choice, doesnt it get painful?

[Anonymous No.10451080]

>>10451066
I got rid of my bed in choice to sleep on the floor. I did this to prevent myself from getting a bad back.

Ironically I never have had a bad back, but I chose to do this to prevent ever getting one.

It's not really painful, but you find yourself only laying down whenever it's time to sleep, you won't take naps as often (a floor doesn't look as appealing as a bed). But when it is time to sleep, I have no issues and it's actually quite comfortable. I also have no issues with waking up in the morning now.

It's hard to explain if you've never done it, you should try it for one night (maybe tonight even), just to see what you think. Everyone who knows I sleep on the floor protested the idea, and they don't believe that beds are bad for our backs.

[Anonymous No.10451094]

I did a course of accutane and it was one of the best decisions of my life. What's a few months of dry lips compared to never having to deal with acne again? I never had any, and neither did anyone I know who took it, but supposedly they can happen. Just use some common sense and see the doctor if you have any side effects.

[Anonymous No.10451097]

>>10451080
Ill try it out tonight, sounds like an interesting idea. Though Im not really sure about the "beds cause bad backs" thing but ill look into it, just never heard of it before

[Anonymous No.10451130]

I used accutane for a couple of months, you get mad dry lips and skin overall, just use mosturizer and lip balm, also couldn't tackle as much booze as before because of the way it works is in the liver and kind of "screws it", just drink less alcohol in case you drink, it will be good to your health too. My mother didn't want me to keep going on because of "bad side effects" and "Something that harms the liver that way shouldn't be healthy".
I kind of noticed a improvement and soon after stopping using it, my acne came back. I wish i would have continued, but luckly nowadays is getting better, i just try to wash my face everyday and avoid milk and sugars.

[STHLM - ストックホルム !EFFAYoZx0A No.10452093]

>>10449815
>>10450916
don't forget to check out the skincare general copypasta

Wiki:
Skin care basics: http://tuxbell.com/index.php?title=Grooming#Skin-care_Basics
Acne treatment: http://tuxbell.com/index.php?title=Grooming#Acne_Treatment

Skinacea Links:
Retinoids: http://www.skinacea.com/retinoids/retinoids.html
Sunscreen: http://www.skinacea.com/sunscreen/sunscreen.html
Ridding dark eye circles: http://www.skinacea.com/how-to/get-rid-of-dark-circles.html

FAQ:
General Guide: http://hastebin.com/raw/wojuyazibo
Dark circles: http://pastebin.com/t796eKvr
Soap, pH, irritants, and synthetic detergents: http://pastebin.com/51yse1NE
Popping pimples: http://pastebin.com/MufDiSfy
Post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation: http://pastebin.com/GXYPdwMf
Skin tone and diet: http://hastebin.com/raw/ehesotajaf
Causes of acne: http://pastebin.com/tudaKWmN

[Anonymous No.10452724]

>>10451130
don't drink while you're on accutane you fucking dumbass.

[Anonymous No.10452731]

>>10449830
>accutane

enjoy your crohn's disease

[Anonymous No.10453466]

>>10449815
Quit drinking soda.
Don't eat as much candy/junk foods.
Use cetaphil antibacterial soap.(bar soap)

[Anonymous No.10453474]

>>10453466
see >>10449863

[Anonymous No.10453505]

>>10449815
dont use any topical treatment.
just stop eating shitty food and popping the zits prematurely.
use dr bronners soap.

If you overlook this you have no hope and will have pockmarks for life.

[Anonymous No.10453681]

>oil cleanse every night with a castor/sunflower/tea tree mix
>give yourself a raw honey face mask 2-3 times a week

Should clear your face right up. No need to waste money on overpriced skincare products that don't even work.

[Anonymous No.10454496]

>>10450250
You look almost like a less attractive Kristian Matsson

[Anonymous No.10454547]

>>10449815
Op we need a pic of your whole to determine

[Anonymous No.10454699]

>>10449815
OP i just started Accutane (Zenatane Generic) @ 20mg. Today is day one if interested i can post updates of my skin as i go through it. my acne is as bad as yours. Just an idea or if anyone else is thinking about getting it

[Anonymous No.10454825]

I had really bad acne, then I discovered I only got it when I had dairy. Maybe try changing up your diet.

[Anonymous No.10454861]

Don't wash your face too often, it will cause you to get rid of your oils and your face will overcompensate by producing even more oil. I found that my acne cleared up over a vacation where I didn't have access to my face wash for 5 days and only used water.

DONT FUCKING PICK AT IT

DONT FUCKING POP YOUR ZITS

Don't eat oily foods.

Put your razor in isopropyl alcohol then clean the alcohol off with water before shaving. Razors make little cuts that leave bacteria in your face if they aren't sterile.

If this fails, talk to a dermatologist.

[Anonymous No.10455131]

>>10454699
Good idea I want to see if this actually works, keep pics of your progress even if you don't post them

[Anonymous No.10455155]

>the guy who actually works with skincare is ignored in the thread

gg

[Anonymous No.10455716]

What should I do about headphones?

I program a lot during the day and enjoy listening to music. Should I just go over my headphones daily with alcohol wipes?

[Anonymous No.10455770]

I used to have pretty awful skin as well, despite washing my face every morning and night and being a total stickler about moisturizer. Then I switched to a vegan diet and started drinking a fuckton of green tea. I don't ever wash my face, never use moisturizer, and my skin is 100% clear now. The only time I ever get acne is when I'm extremely stressed.

Don't listen to these bullshit accutane plants and pump yourself full of drugs, OP. Just skip dairy and stop buying meats with antibiotics. And drink lots of water and green tea. Why should you do something as drastic as dropping down a ton of money for crappy pills with tons of side effects before exhausting every healthier alternative?

[Anonymous No.10455968]

>>10455770

You should still use a moisturiser anon. Keep away those lines and wrinkles as long as possible.

[Anonymous No.10456018]

>>10449815
Just get makeup bro

[Anonymous No.10456042]

>>10455155
If I had horrible acne I'd rather go to a derm than listen to somebody on the internet tbh

[Anonymous No.10457199]

>>10455155
And who might that be?

[Anonymous No.10458815]

>>10455968
yes

[Anonymous No.10459323]

>>10455770

Moisturizer and sunscreen is a must if you want to look like you're 20 when you're 30.

[Anonymous No.10459630]

1. Ignore all Derma shills in this thread.
2. Drink more (alkaline, mineral rich) water.
3. Work out daily, even if only for 15 minutes.
4. Take Vitamins B3, B12, C, and D daily.
5. Eat more fruits and vegetables.
6. Eat less foods high in fats and sodium.
7. Masturbate less.
8. Find daily times for complete rest.
9. ?
10. Profit!

[Anonymous No.10459653]

>>10459630
>my bullshit placebo home remedy is the real cure those stupid doctors don't know nothing

[Anonymous No.10459674]

>>10459653

>I like to ignore all other potential reasons for having acne and just do what someone who would love to make money off of me by doing very basic procedures of diagnosis and prescription of over-priced miracle cures that have yet to prove any lasting effect.
>I think I can just splash shit on my face to magically cure it.
>Muh doctor duhgree
>I'm either a lazy piece of pizza who doesn't want to do anything more to fix my face than splashing wizzy water on my face, or I'm just another Derma shill preying on kids with bad lifestyle choices.

[Anonymous No.10459702]

>>10459630
>>10459653
>>10459674
The vitamins are actually really good advice. Vitamin A is awesome for acne

It's called isotretinoin

[Anonymous No.10459726]

>>10459702
isotretinoin is a derivative of vitamin A

Vitamin A itself has little to no effect on acne

[STHLM - ストックホルム !EFFAYoZx0A No.10459771]

>>10459630
You made a list! I love lists!

1. Based on your recommendations: don't respond to this.

2. Au contraire. Skin benefits from lower overall pH. "Acne bacteria" thrives in higher pH. You need to go the other way to help the skin.

2. Eh. Exercise is generally good. It can increase blood serum levels of testosterone, though, and that *could* increase sebum production and aggravate acne.

4. Excess vitamin B12 may actually worsen acne. As for the others, meh.

5. This could be part of a diet with a low GI load, which is a good thing.

6. No established relationship for high sodium intake and worse acne. Fatty foods in general are not bad - only certain kinds of fats.

7. No evidence for that it affects acne. How masturbation affects testosterone levels is controversial, and the expect effects rather small.

>>10459702
>>10459726
As you've already been told, isotretinoin is not Vitamin A. Isotretinoin is simply a retinoid, just like vitamin A.

Vitamin A has in at least one study been shown to be effective against treatment-resistant acne, but this is hardly something you already knew.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-4362.1981.tb04338.x/abstract

Read up.

[Anonymous No.10459816]

>>10459771

Nah man, you're a shill, disinformation. I've read your posts and they are bullshit.

To people who are reading this thread - Why do you think so many acne skin threads are made on /fa/, with the majority of the posts within them instantly being people recommending drugs? Doesn't that strike you as atleast somewhat strange?

If you have acne, consider, what is your daily lifestyle like? Do you really take care of yourself? Your ill-health shows in your face. Look at someone who is sick, their face will never look very good. Your acne is a sign of the mistreatment of yourself.

You can make the effort and put the work into fixing your acne, or you can listen to these shills (consider the industry they work under and the power and wealth they have) and take the easy, quick-fix-short-term trick.

[Anonymous No.10459853]

I didn't have acne like you did op but nothing I seemed to do would ever clear my fucking face up. I started troubleshooting, I completely cut out excess sugar; soda, candy. Didn't fucking work. I started washing my face religiously, tried a myriad of different products; soaps, pastes, gels, powders you name it. Didn't fucking work. Switched my pillow case with a clean one every night. Nothing. I heard drinking water helped reduce acne, drink water all day to no avail.

I was looking for a new multivitamin one day because the one I was taking costs too much, I started taking this one. About a week and a half later almost all of the redness and rouge acne that would come on my forehead was gone, at first I assumed it had to be my new skin care regiment. After trials, tribulations and somewhat relaxing on the regiment I came to the conclusion that the multivitamin is the primary reason why nearly all of my acne is gone.

It's a wild fucking claim I know, fucking just try.

[STHLM - ストックホルム !EFFAYoZx0A No.10459855]

>>10459816
>disinformation
>your posts are bullshit.

Huh. Well, everything I post is evidence-based. If you consider peer-reviewed research to be unfounded, then there's not that much I can do to help you.

>Doesn't that strike you as atleast somewhat strange?

It's not strange to me at all. The mean age here is 19-20 years. Young people on /fa/ recommend and desire systemic isotretinoin (for example) because most of them are looking for a quick-fix for acne, mostly disregarding the possible side-effects.

The way you write makes it seem like I'm one of the "shills" who merely advocate drugs. Did you happen to miss my huge post here >>10450386 for example, on how to improve diet?

Anyway, I'll let you keep conspiring. I hope you feel better soon!

[Anonymous No.10459863]

I'd just like to comment with my success story. Basically all I did was go to the doctor and get on the antibiotic monocyclin and a Trentnoin cream. This as well as washing my face regularly, changing my diet and regularly changing my sheets and pillow cases and I've had massive success. And literally right as my acne started disappeared im getting hit on by tons of girls and I have a girlfriend. Really it's just the simple life changes that you have to stick with for a couple months to get the results.

[Anonymous No.10459918]

>>10459855

The only things about diet I found in your post were having and lgl intake and absolving dairy products. Granted, those likely help, they won't fix everything and won't apply to the general population. Maybe one of the reasons that high carbohydrate diets have been associated with acne is because lazy people aren't getting off their asses and expending their carbohydrate intake. I am recommending an all-around way to improve not only acne, but overall health. You call me a conspiracy theorist when the fact is there, that these companies are making big bucks off of these 19-20 year old kids who want to fix their acne but are given no more information about the source of it other than the idea it needs to be washed off of their face. They are being misled.

Again, when someone's face looks bad, it is a sign of sickness. Sickness comes from poor health choices. You know if you are making poor health choices personally, it is not hard to cognize. Yes, you are linking sourced articles, and yes they are likely useful. They are not the only tools though, so get off your horse. I'm only recommending to improve your health in all areas to see long lasting clear skin.

[Anonymous No.10459927]

the best acne tip you will hear in your life is to not base your life choices off of what people on 4chan tell you to do

[Anonymous No.10460245]

>>10449815
>Drink plenty of water
>Wash face when u wake up and b4 sleep
>Burts bees daily moisturizer
>100% Organic honey on face one a week

[Anonymous No.10460712]

>>10449815
Do not use a cleanser with microbeads. That shit tears your skin open. Use a chemical exfoliant (Paula's Choice BHA is good, but since you're using salicylic acid wipes that's effectively the same.)

[Anonymous No.10460726]

Clean up your diet, and yes get better sleep, and definitely wear SUNSCREEN (with zinc oxide. Don't skip this part. It's important to wear daily. Don't lay out in the sun in efforts to make your acne better, it's damaging to your skin overall and only temporarily alleviates acne symptoms). As for diet, I would recommend cutting out dairy entirely. People see amazing improvements when they do this. However, the above likely won't help much and you'll still be struggling.

I did all this shit religiously, and I still had acne for 7 miserable years. Nothing truly helped until I went on birth control. And just like that, in 4 months, it was gone. All of it. My oil production reduced and now all I'm left to deal with is some old discoloration. For me it was very much a hormonal issue.

I would recommend going on antibiotics first, and if that doesn't work Accutane since there's no hormonal equivalent for guys. Don't suffer more than you have to. Acne ruined my life for so long.

[Anonymous No.10461033]

yeah would definitely recommend accutane. had moderate acne for 4 years no matter what creams I used. now I only have 1 month left of my accutane course and haven't had acne in months.

Like heaps of other people I was pretty worried about the side effects as well. Just let your doctor know and they will usually start you of on half a dose for a week or 2 to see if you can handle it. Plus most doctors will do regular blood check and will let you know if you should stop the meds or not.

[STHLM - ストックホルム !EFFAYoZx0A No.10461035]

>>10459918
>The only things about diet I found in your post [...]

1. Then you really need to take another look. Just the articles in that specific post above mentions sodium, fatty foods in general, various kinds of fatty acids - and in the past I've discussed things like carotenoid intake (for UV protection + skin tone), water intake, fish oil, multivitamin supplements...

2. If those were the only things I had mentioned, then that would be pretty okay because they are two of the few things that actually has been repeatedly shown to aggravate acne.

>won't apply to the general population

The results have been repeated across multiple randomized sample groups from different parts of the world over time, and the results therefore seems to be generalizable.

Acne primarily appears to be a inflammatory condition from "inside the body", and the "Western diet" seems to have a lot to with it (see "Further Evidence for the Role of Nutrient Signalling in Acne Pathogenesis").

>Maybe one of the reasons that high carbohydrate [...]

I think exercise is one of the factors they've accounted for in the GI-studies. Increased IGF-1 is pretty unavoidable if you're consuming excessive sugar, even if you're exercising - even though exercise absolutely has an impact on IGF-1.

>I am recommending an all-around way to improve not only acne, but overall health.

Me too! I think we actually agree about most things.

>You call me a conspiracy theorist when the fact is there [...]

Yes, but I'm not arguing that companies try to make profit out of acne. I think it's conspiratorial to think that derm companies are spending money on targeting the *4chan fashion forum*, when Accutane recommendations here can be explained by plenty of young people just wanting a quick (but dangerous) fix.

>only recommending to improve your health in all areas to see long lasting clear skin

That's great. Me too. Just please try to recommend things that actually work in the future.

[Anonymous No.10461486]

Definetaly go to derm.

HOWEVER
understand what derms do:
>derm prescribes bullshit #1
>#1 didn't work, prescribes #2
>...etc...
>if your acne is serious just some fucking gel wont cure it
>this goes for years
>you grow out of acne

Derms just try to reduce the acne until it goes away by itself. If your acne is not age related, (like mine) you are fucked.

If your derm doesnt do any blood tests, find another one, do it. Derm like this has no intention on ever curing your acne, just following the steps I described above.

[Anonymous No.10461495]

>>10461486
oh and I forgot, do not EVER buy anything acne.org/forums/ reccomends. It's full of fucking shills.

Captcha: pizza

[Anonymous No.10461497]

>>10459863
How long have u been taking it?
Are u still on it ?
How long are you off it?

What was your acne like?

[Anonymous No.10461534]

i had terrible acne. like it fucked up my self esteem for life. it all went away when i was like 20. didnt use any cream. i also popped the shit out of them because i didnt know any better. the scars are all gone. the only significant i did was replacing a cup of soda everyday with water.

[Anonymous No.10461728]

>>10449850
This
>>10449815
Also, SHAVE
shave everyday. If you have even a bit of facial hair grown in, even just stubble, go for clean shave and wash your face, all of mine went away that way

[Anonymous No.10462110]

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[Anonymous No.10462397]

Dunno mans. My acne is genetic related and my mother was put on Accutane during her teen years because it made her " look like a monster ". Kinda scared it'll happen to me because genes, is this a possibility? if I go on Accutane will it get worse and then better?

[Anonymous No.10462873]

>have to follow strict diets, routines and apply unnatural creams and gels twice daily to my face JUST to look normal

[Anonymous No.10462884]

>>10449815
This thread belings on /fit:

[Anonymous No.10463034]

>>10462884
Are you fucking retarded?

Acne fixing is way more >>>/fa/ than >>>/fit/

Get the fuck >>>/out/